Sheriff says Richard Allen doesn't match witness descriptions of 'bridge guy' |Day 6| DELPHI DEBRIEF

[@marierees8890]

LE botched this case from the begining.

[@tikvahlanz6335]

@@marierees8890 it’s so frustrating. I think unfortunately even if Allen DID do it he’s going to end up acquitted because of all the missteps by LE

[@evrydayppl6296]

@@tikvahlanz6335I see that happening, to many mishaps and mistakes

[@julesingram7945]

The wrong people investigated this from the start! They did botch the case badly!

[@pokerpegg1623]

Very tight lips from the law enforcement !👹

[@anitabee57]

No mention of fingernail clippings from Libby?? Why was the FBI taken off the case???

[@bobbsmith1959]

I don't know how law enforcement could be so incompetent. This entire case has been Barney Fife on steroids.

[@julesingram7945]

I said this from day one! AGREED!!!

[@evrydayppl6296]

@@bobbsmith1959 Barney Fife was MY first impression!

[@Sweetie_PieLo]

Excellent way of putting it

[@LS-ny8mr]

I agree, just hearing how the file was found about Allen was enough for me! This is Fyfe-dum

[@jacquelinechellis4036]

His having 25 guns is not a factor to me. They were not shot. If they found things in his computer or phones that incriminate him and it should be there. That would be a big deal

[@torndown9781]

The most informative coverage of this trial. Great job

[@skenth11]

I was just about to comment the same thing, tomdown. In fact, I think the lawyer they had on also has offered, for me, the best legal commentary on this case that I've heard so far.

[@Amyella1]

Yes! I agree. Thank you for informing us of the TRUTH! I have held my breath for this trial for 2 years

[@9686-n3l]

what a mess ... LE has done a suspiciously bad job since day one

[@tetsuoakira8294]

Probably cause it was one of their own. (Pure speculation, don't ever take anything at face value)

[@LeeannSmith-wz4lp]

I haven't even followed the case like that just heard about here and there and this is exactly the same impression I got... Something is not right!!

[@Jodi_Phebus]

Suspiciously bad, is right!

[@moisesmontecillo7570]

Thats probably why they didnt make this court live, they knew the defence was gonna completly grill the prosecution and if they let this be live there would be so much outrage just look how people act just from news reports imagine if we saw this happen live?

[@FredPorlock-1892]

All the reports from lawyers that were in the gallery are saying the prosecution had an exorbitant number of objections today, without clear grounds, and ALL of which were sustained by Gull.

[@evrydayppl6296]

Absolutely, it’s sad…the families have to watch this.

[@lyric2439]

Bingo

[@mekylieme]

Not true, but okay if that's whatcha wanna believe.

[@Susiecat24]

@@moisesmontecillo7570 Imagine if this was your daughter or granddaughter? If I believed he was guilty and got off I would be the next one police would be looking for. Just saying you should look at both sides. How could he write a confession and know 60 things only the killer would know? It doesn’t make sense.

[@tomboy5212]

If I was a juror I’ve got doubts

[@Regina-ue8ck]

The judge don't want the truth out. No transparency, keeping cameras out is not good.

[@beedee4427]

Absolutely fantastic coverage. So informative, personal and knowledgeable. Many thanks (from Australia)

[@mekylieme]

Uh, glad this is entertaining for you but when it happens close by, it is the farthest from that.

[@KamalaGaveMyBlackJobToMigrants]

@@mekyliemeStop looking for attention. It’s not about you.

[@beedee4427]

@@mekylieme Idiot! Nowhere did I mention the word "entertaining"! Read it again. We have murders here in Australia as well - even very close by. Why can you only be interested and concerned if the heinous acts are close to you? Idiot!

[@jacalynstaten5607]

@@mekyliemenobody said it was entertaining.

[@ajnathan9490]

​@@mekylieme Informative, knowledgeable and personal equals 'entertaining' to you? We ALL were brought into this case, emotionally speaking, in order to keep in in the media so it didn't go cold amidst the LE botch. Ppl ALL over the world became emotionally invested and 'feel' this case v strongly. Don't 'use' ppl to engage via social media and then 'dismiss' them once you don't need their attention any more. - Also from Australia And just as invested in this case ... As well as Quinton Simon's case, and the Idaho 4 (College students). You don't need geographic proximity to have empathy (or disdain) for your fellow humans!

[@casey0117]

Has anyone else noticed that they keep making a big deal about RA having a Carhartt Jacket and yet BG doesn't seem to be wearing a Carhartt? Every Carhartt I've ever seen or purchased have a square logo on them which I can't see one on BG and the material doesn't look like a Carhartt on BG either. Everything about this case seems really strange.

[@tlh75]

Personally dont think it looks like him

[@JasonCManley]

This is understandable considering eyewitness testimony is notoriously shaky. If you have ever been the victim of a crime, you'll understand the dynamic of your mind not hitting the "record" button like you think it would. Some are better at detail retrieval than others. That's why sketches are simply that - sketches. They aren't posed portraits. Trying to match a suspect to a sketch artist's rendering is truly a fool's errand. That said, one thing the five eyewitnesses (3 teen girls that saw BG, the lady that saw BG on the trail, near the bridge and the passerby) all agree on is that the man they saw is the man pictured in the single frame image released to the public on February 17th, 2017. And of course, the best eyewitness of all is Liberty German's iPhone 6s.

[@504chino]

That's a Fact

[@KHay-vy8ne]

Unless you’ve been the victim of an openly corrupt judge framing and railroading you then you’ll never care about the full due process and bill of rights, etc.

[@lorig4871]

It was a teen hazing commited by the 3 teen girls .

[@julieboice180]

​@@lorig4871oooh. Never thought of that

[@BillieYoung-ge5dx]

It’s just so sad the investigation team botched the evidence good grief what kind of detective says the sticks on the bodies shouldn’t be considered at first ?? I absolutely hate it when no leads because of idiots , this guy could actually be innocent we will never know

[@56dh]

Great coverage! Miss Jackson explains the courtroom dynamics very well.

[@Zolo1909]

Bridge guy 5'10" large man tall 20-30 yo. Richard Allen 5'4"short and fat at the time. Hello, are you in there? Frame job! Cops dirty hands.

[@white_genocide2050]

The bridge guys dose NOT look tall the video is far away he only apperars tall

[@Zolo1909]

@@white_genocide2050 witness statement.

[@jacquelinechellis4036]

​@@white_genocide20505 10 is not tall 5 4 is short. It can be calcualted by measuring deck of bridge and geometric calculation. Off by 6 inches is too far off. Not a match

[@sissybrooks8588]

Yup. Total set up.

[@Susiecat24]

@@jacquelinechellis4036 So explain the 60 plus things Allen wrote in his several confessions that only the killer would know? See he said things only someone who was there would know. In my opinion you can’t just dust that under the rug.

[@TheGoodBadandUgly1]

Our court system is so broken. It’s embarrassing to all Americans.

[@minamartinez8131]

The witness describing the man they saw as a 20-30 year old cannot be bridge guy. The fact that they said “oh yeah that’s the same guy” is going to kill this case. Witnesses (especially ones not directly involved in the situation) are NOT reliable, period. To me, Bridge guy definitely sounds and looks older than 20-30 years old. He walks and moves like men over 40

[@jacalynstaten5607]

But not all men over 40.

[@frala2398]

Oh, this doesn't sound so good.

[@yeahboiii6640]

That video that was released to the public was absolutely deceptive! Made it seem like the Bridge guy was 10 feet away from them and that he was 100% the one who said those words to them.

[@VioletJoy]

He actually was. If you watch Lawyer Lee's channel, you'll hear her say exactly that. She's been in the courtroom throughout the trial.

[@raeven1200]

Hallelujah this is the best reporting thus far and I will not watch any other channels. I hope this attorney continues to be there and give her professional and personal opinions.

[@LS-ny8mr]

Agreed

[@AndyPanda3]

Why is Fran Gull allowed to be so bias? You guys in there see it.

[@chacha-Ce83]

Yeah you three were fantastic fascinating to hear the details thank you great work team!

[@EmanuelMarquez-z5l]

They’re railroading this guy. Even if he is guilty the detectives and prosecution completely botched the case from the get go. There’s so much reasonable doubt.

[@Susiecat24]

@@EmanuelMarquez-z5l No, They definitely are not. Explain how he knew 60 different things only the killer would know. The one thing the police did was keep info closed on this case. There is no way he could have “accidentally” wrote a confession of 60 plus things only the killer knew…. Seriously explain it away.

[@DedmanReactin]

​@@Susiecat24the cop's wrote it.. duh

[@Punnoosia]

@Susiecat24 His attorneys. There's something called "discovery". They knew all the evidence from when the state shared it. Long ago. Probably shortly after he was arrested. His attorneys have gone over it all with him and asked about details. His "confessing the crime" is not the bombshell you think it is. Even despite knowing the discovery, he made lots of false confessions like killing his own family. He also said he shot the girls in the back. He could have said things that ended up being true just from reasonable probability. Dude was eating his own feces.

[@Punnoosia]

Also, it is said he made 60 confessions, not that he had 60 details correct.

[@Punnoosia]

My comment got deleted by KZbin but it basically said that his attorneys and the discovery allowed him to know the evidence.

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

Good reporting. Thanks.

[@adriantheising2665]

Katie Jackson Lindsey needs to be in that court room every day and bringing the scoop back to the public! I have always loved watching her report on this case.

[@glitterprincess5672]

They arrested him only because they were given pressure from the public and the family. They had to arrest someone this poor man needs justice.

[@ThePurple1-m2o]

Exactly! This could happen to any of us or our loved ones!!!!

[@markpfeffer7487]

And Tony ligett was running for sheriff immediately prior to election day...

[@bigcountry6314]

What about this idea... Richard Allan came forward BECAUSE he was a concerned citizen and was just giving information as for a timeline situation? So now if i witness a crime i will NOT report it as i will then be charged in the crime!!! What a world we live in these days.... DO NOT report a crime if you do youre GUILTY !!!

[@JasonCManley]

There are examples of a tipster/witness being the actual perpetrator. The thought being that they are trying to either insert themselves for some reason or simply to just misdirect attention away from themselves.

[@KHay-vy8ne]

@JasonCManley that doesn’t appear to be the case at all in this case. There’s tons of exculpatory evidence so far, the crooked judge isn’t letting any of in for the jury to see.

[@Midnight-cf9ph]

If he’s guilty they’re definitely appealing. This is a miscarriage of justice and those that have followed this case from the beginning know.

[@kptyler5]

Yeah if you was there and there’s evidence towards you then it’s probably you!!! We’ll see it’s only the first week, i believe there was a group of these freaks out there waiting and he’s the one who got caught up in his own mistakes!!!! Is about to get really good in the next 2-3 weeks!!!!

[@roadkillavenger1325]

Buddy, I witnessed a crime once and reported it. I got slapped with bogus charges because of it. Never again.

[@malcriadamedina5358]

There's no way he's getting convicted and if he does, it is ripe for appeal

[@katherines9304]

Avoid contact with law enforcement at all costs. Do not put yourself in their "line of fire". Anything you say can and WILL be used against you. You dont have to answer their questions so DONT.

[@TheGoodBadandUgly1]

Never help them. Always get a lawyer before you speak.

[@Susiecat24]

I agree with you about not talking but Allen did and confessed several times and now there are over 60 things he said in those confessions that only the killer would know so there is that. I believe it is him and as for height I was 5’7 and my grandpa seemed huge to me in junior high when in fact he actually wasn’t standing at 5’10. I can see how bystanders especially the younger people at the time may have said he was taller, I think as teenagers we see adults bigger and taller than they actually are.

[@katherines9304]

@@lukefuller1936 NO I WOULD NOT WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY.

[@56dh]

Tell your children & grandchildren not to talk.

[@katherines9304]

@@Susiecat24 he was held in a PRISION even though he'd been convicted of NOTHING at that point. Under 24 hour I servation by guards wearing Odin patches on their uniforms and threatened by them that if he didn't confess his family would be killed. He went into a mental breakdown. That's why be confessed.

[@bigpapasnag]

this has been a wild ride im not saying innocent or guilty too much flip flop im glad im not on the jury hell this whole case is messed up between "youtube detectives" , odinists,botched LE work and witness testimony changing every few months everything is tainted. There is no justice here for these two angels because the internet and media made this full case a complete shitshow. Be mad about my opinion if you want but i said what i said

[@adriantheising2665]

This has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with incompetent investigation from the get go

[@MG-ot2yr]

I don't think this guy did it

[@nannajaysadventures]

I have actually wondered if it is a woman....possibly the one that said she saw a man with blood and mud on him.... because there is no evidence of abuse. The majority of the time when young people are killed it has a s.x.al element to it, this doesn't.

[@maxpainmedia]

Did you watch the whole video?

[@HumDingaDoozy]

Fantastic coverage. Thank you.

[@teamm363]

Fantastic breakdown/ summary of the day’s events!

[@Ultorvindex]

First, if you zoom the picture take by Libby anyone can clearly see its the face of Richard Allen. Second, he confessed the killings. The prosecution presented the letter that Richard Allen wrote confessing to them. "I'm ready to officially confess for killing Abby and Libby, he wrote. "I hope I have the opportunity to tell the families I'm sorry", Richard Allen concluded. Third, the unspent bullet found below one of the girls, marked the gun of Richard Allen.

[@anaseijas3923]

You cannot see the face at all, you are just seeing what you want cos you made up your mind.

[@KyleTMcN]

He also confessed to killing his own family and his nonexistent grandchildren so there’s a credibility issue. Matching a bullet cartridge to a particular gun is junk science, unreliable. The Snapchat photo is grainy and unclear, so you can’t clearly see its RA. It’s reasonable doubt thus far. It’s odd that the state is seemingly burying their best evidence: the confession that contains information that only the killer would know. That they haven’t presented that evidence yet makes me think it’s unreliable or just not as strong as they’re saying it is.

[@slaws2279]

It’s not uncommon for the culprit to insert themselves into the investigation.

[@ErinAbou]

Gary Ridgway did this, they do it to try to get information or to give false information like red herrings into investigations. I am surprised they don’t understand this.

[@markhasenour12]

How in the world could they possibly mark someone who placed themselves at the scene cleared after one interview???

[@Twin-Nick]

Because he was brain washed while in solitary confinement.

[@evrydayppl6296]

@@Twin-Nickthe “thumbs up” number is about to increase

[@rb5078]

The witnesses used to say the guy was 5’7 or shorter. Now they’re saying 5’10? This is the first I’ve heard of that.

[@julieboice180]

And I thought Richard Allen is 5'4"

[@TheProfTrueCrime]

Thank you very much, great job! 🎉

[@MileyonDisney]

All corrupt. He was railroaded.

[@andrewrobb3689]

great work bob and emily

[@hollykeller1545]

Good coverage! Thanks!🎃👏🏻👏🏻

[@WVgrl59]

It's okay, Richard Allen self snitched... if he hadn't told the conservation officer what he was wearing, which was exactly what bridge guy was wearing, and had the right body shape, height, and age, they probably wouldn't have caught him.

[@johnellis3309]

Well they supposedly caught the murderer here.. now it's time to turn our attention to evansdale.. lyric and Elizabeth.. it's been long enough.. strangely similar circumstances

[@lavenderrose2045]

And Bill & Peggy Stephenson! Or the Flora Four if we're keeping it in Carroll County! There's been no updates for YEARS about the Flora IN arson that killed 4 little girls. ISP Doug Carter mentioned the Flora girls with Abby and Libby many times. 💜 Keyana 💜 🩷 Keyara 🩷 🩵 Kerrielle 🩵 💚 Keonnie 💚 Please let's not forget them

[@johnellis3309]

@@lavenderrose2045 yeah there's is entirely too much of this going on.. time we bring this out of the darkness into the light again

[@kathybenes3137]

Very interesting??????thanks for all your hard work 👏

[@Sedgley9024]

I find it hard to believe he would keep the blue jacket. It had to be covered wuth blood.

[@julieboice180]

Right? Why would he keep 'the' jacket?

[@5GreenAcres]

Thank you so much for the fair reporting. Not trying to lead your viewers to an automatic guilt of Richard Allen. The judge in this case is tying the defenses hands for much more information that the jury should hear about. Ex: The cop who has a son who practices Odinism. Maybe the girls were led there from on-line connection to meet a cute guy????

[@Larry-i6m]

Yea ,they watch the news ,so now the flip flop, 😂

[@HoneySun16]

So a guy contacts you voluntarily to tell you he was there. And that’s not suspicious? And then you just forget about it even after the video came out.

[@MriahT-jt6uf]

Ok so this is very descriptive thank you. Also court tv has described the video completely different I’m so confused 🤔

[@Midnight-cf9ph]

How in the world is that video at 2:13pm and supposedly the last thing on her phone is she texted her dad to pick them up after that

[@thetenthltr]

Great! Great! Coverage - Well Done!

[@VTPSTTU]

Many killers insert themselves into the investigation. That Allen did the same does not make him look innocent. The state's point on the identifications is that all of the witnesses said that Bridge Guy is the guy that they saw. That each of them saw bridge guy differently is human nature. No one would have taken that much notice of him when they first saw him. Only later would they try to turn their memories into a description for their own minds and for the police. That they saw Bridge Guy differently doesn't help the prosecution, but it doesn't help the defense that much. The defense lawyers have created a antagonistic situation with law enforcement. They allowed crime scene photos to be leaked to the public. They are advancing this ridiculous idea of Odinism among law enforcement officers and law enforcement officers covering up a double murder to cover for fellow Odinists. If I were a juror, I wouldn't see antagonism between law enforcement officers and this particular defense team as a bad mark on the prosecution. I don't think that the defense is precluded from presenting evidence that someone else committed the crime. I think that the defense is precluded from promoting kooky theories about the evidence that is available. In other words, the defense cannot haul every corrections officer with a Nordic tattoo into court and accuse that officer of being part of an Odin cult. On the other hand, the defense would be able to present a picture showing two guys that day at the trails wearing the same clothing. That would be evidence that maybe they got the wrong guy dressed that way. If the defense had surveillance video of someone getting out of a black car an hour up the highway and that guy were dressed like Bridge Guy and had blood on his clothes, the defense could present that evidence. The problem for the defense is that no evidence pointing away from Allen exists. That the jurors are asking pointed questions of the prosecution doesn't make me believe that they have doubts. While I lean very strongly towards believing that Allen is guilty, I'd want to be able to establish exactly how I came to my own conclusions if I were a juror. Clearly, the investigators made a mistake in not talking to Allen again after he spoke to the conservation officer. If he weren't guilty, he'd still be an important witness. They should have been talking to him a week later, two weeks later, and throughout the months of the investigation in order to try to get any additional memories that he might have of that day. If they had pursued his memories that way, they likely would have realized in the early days that he had to be a suspect. His being where he claimed to be but not seeing the victims doesn't make sense. At some point, they would have realize that he was lying, and at that point, he would be a stronger suspect.

[@jacquelinechellis4036]

Often people confess to crimes they did not commit also. The confession should fit the facts and it should not be changing and he may be mentally ill. The facts need to match him bridge guy is 5 10 and Allen is 5 4 no match there

[@matthewvanderlinde3415]

DNR is not SVU. Delphi ain't Mayberry.

[@jeff824]

It will be soo freaky around Delphi when the NG comes down.

[@bornfree0507]

NG? What’s that?

[@KyleTMcN]

@@bornfree0507not guilty

[@bornfree0507]

@@KyleTMcNI thought it was the nitty gritty. lol. I think they have the wrong guy. They’ve had years to doctor the books.

[@bornfree0507]

Why would Kathy’s boss keep telling her to go back and go through tips after 3 years then after 5 years?

[@Arbysroastbeefjuice]

Just type the words, already….

[@AB-by8xu]

the dude could look like the grand father and kegan klein

[@julieboice180]

He looks like allot of people in Delphi

[@tikvahlanz6335]

“It doesn’t matter, it’s over,” is a CRAZY thing to say if you’re innocent.

[@Midnight-cf9ph]

Not when being railroaded every step of the way. Judge is beyond biased.

[@LostAndSortaHighVibes]

@@Midnight-cf9ph The judge hadn't even met allen at that point.

[@tikvahlanz6335]

@@Midnight-cf9ph I’m not saying it’s proof he did it. I can understand a point of view where you’re feeling hopeless and scared and might say it. I still think it’s a crazy thing to say. Also not sure what the judge has to do with it since that was long before the judge was even assigned to the case.

[@kellymac77]

Not when group is wide and deep evil and in our judicial system

[@AndyPanda3]

How is Gull allowed to get away being as bias as she is?!

[@candy3388]

I am starting to really doubt the ability of police departments.

[@amyking4289]

I disagree about why Richard Allen said "it doesn't matter, it's over." Well. Kegan and Tony never said that did they? They were the main suspects for the longest time. Why is no one seeming to remember this?

[@BeeHash]

He will be acquitted.

[@SurvivalistAmber]

💯

[@darleneww3670]

I agree. When the state indicted Allen, I was underwhelmed I saw LE and the courts fitting their case around a suspect. This entire case is falling apart. Court TV and legal experts praised LE for keeping all the details of the crime, and cause of death out of the media for the sake of the case. They had no evidence - EVER because they wrecked it, or ignored it on the scene. No fingernail clippings were taken, and DNA was untested for 7 years. It does not match Allen.

[@hughbetcha436]

Allen admitted he was on the bridge as well as confessing several times

[@ThePurple1-m2o]

You should google “false confessions!”

[@markpfeffer7487]

Under duress in solitary confinement.

[@lavenderrose2045]

Justice for Abby & Libby!! 💜🩵💜🩵 Please Let us also remember the Flora Four girls who died in an arson. This happened only a few months before the Delphi crime, and they were in the same county as Abby & Libby, only 15 minutes away from Delphi. Doug Carter mentioned the Flora girls with Abby & Libby many times during the investigation. They need justice too 💜⚖️🙏🏻 🩷 Keyana 🩵 Keyara 💜 Kerrielle 💚 Kionne

[@andrewrobb3689]

amazing they didnt ask any eyewitnesses if the defendant was the man they saw that day

[@Twin-Nick]

RA is 100% going to walk. The killer was the man who owns the land they were found on. He sounds exactly like Bridge guy and even looks like him.

[@LayneFranklin-qu5bq]

You're not very smart are u...

[@kellymac77]

Group involved . People in the group is in our judicial system . They all help one another . Group O d I n . Symbolism will be their downfall .

[@1997thatperson]

@@kellymac77odinism is a prison gang. I can not believe how stupid so many people are

[@ArthurB26]

Are you kidding? There's way more circumstantial evidence against Allen than the land owner. I'm not convinced Allen is guilty and if I was on the jury I'd find him not guilty based on the evidence so far but I'm not convinced he's innocent either. When it comes to the land owner I'm 99.9% sure he wasn't responsible. There's absolutely no evidence to say he was involved. Only people who'd say he was involved are ignorant people who think owning the land and bearing a slight resemblance is somehow a smoking gun... which it absolutely is not, in fact it couldn't even be consider weak circumstantial evidence especially with nothing else to link him to the crime. Stop slandering innocent people you weirdo...

[@SurvivalistAmber]

@@LayneFranklin-qu5bqthey’re absolutely correct. Richard Allen shouldn’t and won’t be found guilty.

[@gmcontractorsllc7592]

This case is so bizarre. It’s been established RA was on the bridge. The fact when his house was raided, lots of guns, knives & the blue carhart jacket was found, that the man in the photo was wearing, says it was him. I think he went to police letting them know he was on the bridge that day because he knew someone saw him. He confessed 60+ times saying he killed them.

[@dionnedunsmore9996]

I'm not seeing the state proving his guilt so far. I can't tell he's guilty yet (I've not followed this case. I stayed clear of it until the trial). The defense seems to provide doubt so far. Reasonable doubt, from what I'm hearing

[@aaronb4936]

25 guns is meaningless. The same kind of bullet is meaningless, The photo of the bridge from 12 years prior to the murders is meaningless (it’s a local landmark). Man this case is really falling apart fast.

[@rushing2travel351]

RA could have contacted the police for this very reason. He saw his pic from the video, thought he might be recognized, and wanted to head off any suspicion that it might be him. “If” the bullet does match his gun, he has a big problem. There is a good possibility it’s him!

[@JL-zn7me]

I didn’t watch opening statements. Does anyone know if the prosecutor ever said anything along the lines of “you will hear how RA’s DNA is on this” or “you will hear how Libby and Abby’s DNA was found on a item at RA home”? In addition, why is the hair in Abby’s hand being ignored?!!?

[@arcadiaflorada]

Why isn’t this being shown live on court TV perhaps or CNN?

[@JRay.R]

Judge ruled no cameras in the courtroom.

[@19LAM79]

Because the State knows there’s some funky business and don’t want public outrage.

[@JoJo-vz5uy]

They are teenagers.. and a terrible judge regarding the audio and documents.

[@thetenthltr]

Because they know is a clusterf***!!

[@peterpiwoski]

CNN ? lol

[@jesshughes776]

DOES ALLEN'S VOCAL PATTERNS MATCH BRIDGE GUY'S. THAT WOULD MAKE OR BREAK THE CASE.

[@trevorjones4854]

The police story sounds just as unbelievable as Richard Allen's unfortunately

[@Katiecat7ate9]

I wonder if Holeman has ra recorded saying " it doesn't matter it's over"?

[@glitterprincess5672]

They need to look into John Walsh from Peru!!

[@rb5078]

Guilty people often insert themselves into the investigation. Any expert would know that. Who are these reporters?? Definitely not experienced in this type of case.

[@ErinAbou]

Exactly, this happens a lot!

[@NB-ky5ol]

A gun wasn’t even used in the murders. Why are they even admissible in this trial?

[@jacalynstaten5607]

They girls were not shot but I believe there was a gun. And there was a bullet left behind.

[@mw12349]

wrong guy!!!

[@liljhayjerr9332]

Short height people do wrong more than you think, so please stop thinking the bridge guy's height makes him innocence. Libby and Abby were were small in stature too. They were chosen because they were small and innocent! Bridge guy knows it!

[@ErinAbou]

And he had a gun.

[@pamchandler1867]

BRIDGE GUY IS NOT RICHARD ALLEN

[@kathybenes3137]

At one point sheriff's son dated one of the girls he tried to lie about son said he didn't know her

[@jacalynstaten5607]

Date? A 13 or 14 year old?!!!

[@MriahT-jt6uf]

@@jacalynstaten5607yes I was doing more than dating at 14 just sayin

[@kerichasse1414]

Many men have lots of guns... That's not a big deal. But having NOTHING on his phone and computer's says a lot.

[@sarakhalidi0513]

One of the girls had hair in her hand that did not belong to Richard allen! So who does the hair belong to? She wasn't carrying her around in her hand for the entire day it got there when she fought for her life. So whose hair is it?

[@julieboice180]

And if the hair has a bulb, then it was alive and had to have been pulled out. When it's ready to shed, it loses it's bulb 'root'

[@AndyPanda3]

Do you think jurors can tell how Gull is leaning?

[@slaws2279]

I’m sure they feel she is biased - favors the state.

[@markpfeffer7487]

ABSOLUTELY.

[@Don_Rhinestone85]

The actual killer is going to get to walk..What a bunch of crap

[@bornfree0507]

Have law enforcement done a criminal profile on RA? What’s the backstory on him?

[@julieboice180]

No crimes

[@TStephens-n2c]

He didn't do it cops no who did though and are lying

[@kentjensen4504]

His stature? He's really tall or someting? Great coverage from this team.

[@slaws2279]

No. He’s 5’4”.

[@kentjensen4504]

@@slaws2279 Thank you. The man in the bridge video doesn't look that short at all.

[@ErinAbou]

@@kentjensen4504I think he looks easily less than 5’10”, he’s undeniably shorter than my husband. Even from a distance I can see this.

[@pokerpegg1623]

Well…. Law enforcement were very tight lip! They didn’t want the public to know nothing!👹👹

[@markpfeffer7487]

Because it's a sham lmao

[@AliBaba-ke5jn]

RA height doesn't match BG.

[@SteveJohnson-uu9ew]

Psychological game, Allens stature while massive police man handle him around.

[@WVgrl59]

Libby photographed Abby at the platform at 2:13 p.m., Allen was seen walking along the road "about" 4 pm. But Derrick, Libby's dad, would have been calling her for pickup about 3:30 pm. Allen may have been trying to cover up their bodies when he heard Derrick yelling for them. But Allen said he was there from 1:30-3:30. I believe yelling from above would have been caught in the area that Richard Allen was in, startling him into leaving before he was finished. Allen probably used their clothes to clean his hands or sexually gratify himself. Then he placed the clothes in Deer Creek to clean them of DNA. So I think the girls would have been dead before 3:30 pm, and Richard Allen would be gone.... otherwise, he might have heard Libby's cell phone ring when Derrick began calling at 3:30. Unless Libby had turned the ringer down. The woman said she saw him about 4:00 p.m. Allen was probably putting the clothes in Deer Creek when Libby's phone would have begun ringing. From the creek, he either returned to his vehicle (where Sarah would have seen him heading?) or did he head into the woods to walk home and clean up, then return for his vehicle. Because I think Libby was targeted, the cuts could have been for his pleasure. Like BTK, hanging Josie Otero, who got off torturing her. Richard Allen probably used that neck covering to control Abby since they found some mark's along her face. Probably right after he said down the hill he got Abby, they slid down the hill and she lost a shoe. That may be why she had an injury to her foot. If you've ever tried to walk in the woods barefoot, sometimes you can step on a stob. No wonder Abby was dirty underneath since it seems he made them undress when they got to the ravine. Ĥe may have had a cache located, but I don't think so. I think he was carrying everything on him. You know if he was taking on two teenagers, he had been thinking about it for a long time and his urges overrode anything else.

[@kaylef1111]

I have watched many others following this trial and RA SAID HE COULD HAVE TAKEN THAT DIRECTION TO THE TRAIL AND ITS IN THE TESTIMONY PAGE 37 I believe. So no points for the defense for this question. Never was it said there was any witnesses were heated

[@yeahboiii6640]

We need to stop forcing things to fit in the puzzle. I don't think they have anything more than circumstantial evidence.

[@lolagoetz561]

None of that stuff in his house is evidence!

[@dionnedunsmore9996]

Very often, a predator returns to the crime scene to anonymous 'get attention' ...they also return for updates and they watch the news to collect updates. It's not uncommon for the killer to return to his crime scene. For him to report himself kinda goes along those lines. This is one of the pdices of this horrible crime that makes me lean towards his guilt. Another piece of this crime that makes me question his innocence is the tires kn his car. His rims (I think they said rims but idk for sure) are see thru. Witnesses say they saw his kind of car close to the scene and they specifically remembered his clear rims. Someone reported seeing his see thru rims or tires. Nobody else in that state (I'm exaggerating lol) has those rims!!

[@DigitalAndInnovation]

10:42 This response seems like a non-sequitur. Hard to actually understand the context given the lack of transparency with this mess of a trial.

[@RolandPoile]

He probably stayed quite after he found out there was a video

[@MriahT-jt6uf]

O you mean the people actually responsible, yeah they prolly did

[@ohcan9]

He is guilty !!!!

[@Seadog..C5]

Bob's hand language doesn't jive with what he's saying. 🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️ Bob is the reporter standing outside the court house 😊 .. He needs two microphones to give his hands something to do.

[@shirleylegare7899]

huge gains for the state.....my ass. how many other houses have boxes that contain a bullet JUST LIKE THE ONE FOUND AT R A HOUSE..........THE ONLY PERSON TO HEAR HIM SAY IT'S OVER IS ONE ISP COP. HOW SPECIAL IS THAT. THERE IS NO WAY R A COULD HAVE FORCED AND M U R D E R E D AND CONTROLLED 2 TEENAGE KIDS. THIS IS THE WORSE MESSED UP CRIME INVESTIGATION I SEEN IN MY 80 YRS

[@Findpepperbridge]

I wish this was on tv. I feel like there won’t be a fair trial. How could one guy do this to two girls in daylight with people around?

[@markpfeffer7487]

Because it was a group of guys who abducted them and likely murdered them off site.

[@julieboice180]

They need to find out who's hair that Abby had in her hand