lazer updates - October 22, 2022

read the full changelog: osu.ppy.sh/home/changelog/laz...
try lazer for yourself: github.com/ppy/osu#running-osu
peppy and pishifat walk through some of the most recent changes in lazer!
lazer is the next major update to osu!. learn about it: • what is lazer?

[@neferupito4961]

I can't wait for the stable and lazer merge

[@tofaa3668]

We yeet the entire stable and mrekk becomes 6 digit

[@100xstacks9]

Personally, i don't really care about the other feature, I'm only super excited about the notelock removal

[@kujubuo]

We wont get a lazer and stable merge for a while because i think peppy said something like stable will still continue to exist like for a year or so after lazer gives pp i think?

[@Hexality]

@@100xstacks9 just a hint for you, notelock was never removed, it just got nerfed by a lot.

[@IN-pr3lw]

I've been only lazer for over 1 year so I can't wait to see my graph to just sky rocket. And I wonder what my top play is

[@youraveragedude8767]

"Drank a midnight coffee and now it's 3 am" As a Developer I agree XD 😂

[@astroorbis]

As another dev I can confirm What languages do you use?

[@youraveragedude8767]

@@astroorbis why are you asking XD I use Unity with C# if you wanna know

[@astroorbis]

@@youraveragedude8767 cool! I've been trying to get into C#, but I mostly use NodeJS and system languages guess I just asked out of curiosity lol, it's fun seeing other devs in the wild lol

[@youraveragedude8767]

@@astroorbis no problem mate. My issue is quite the opposite of yours XD I'm trying to get into system languages such as Rust and C++ but just cant get over the syntax in C++ or the little amount of interesting content for Rust... any tips?

[@youraveragedude8767]

@@astroorbis Honestly though for C# I just found that diving into Unity and how it worked instead of how C# works helped me out IMMENSELY! I would always have searched for courses on C# but those were really irritating to me... I just decided f that and learned the "Unity Syntax" and ignored the C# theory and features... Those I learned later over the years!

[@lolman533]

3:27 OMG OMG OMG LAZER IS FINALLY PLAYABLE

[@Quintenx]

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[@supernenechi]

I switched to Lazer entirely now that I don't use Windows anymore. It's really really good, I recommend everyone to switch already. Your scores don't get pp, but that doesn't matter

[@jhowgx]

It's cool, i like to get pp, but playing laser tometimes is good

[@kajxqeirscl]

I already did too a couple of months ago. Haven't touched stable for so long lol.

[@ylerian8878]

@@zenobesenpaii pp won't be added to lazer until it merges with stable

[@GUCKII]

Linux? What about latency? Audio Latency?

[@theorangeblaster11]

i feel like lazer feels rather... laggy ig? idk it feels weurd

[@Rezeee]

Wow, nearly 8 minutes worth of lazer updates, huge respect for the lazer development team, they've been working harder than ever recently!

[@NatannielEC]

Enjoying every episode (Updates) so far. Thank you so much for the Video and the Dev also!!

[@Spitfire720]

Love these tiny changes, shows the attention to detail. One complaint I have about the argon skin is that the slider seems thinner than the hitcircle, but oh well.

[@kajxqeirscl]

I also don't like that either.

[@bamboozled614]

these are gen some of my favourite videos to watch! thank you so much for making them

[@pickmeup20.02]

Ahhh the update vids r so good i love just seeing how peppy talks about it and along with pishi and his asmr voice lol i like ur voice tho previously i didnt bother to check the updates on lazer but wanted to know whats been going on on lazer so i appreciate the effort put into it the videos i watched all of them and always looking forward to the next week update

[@Tsunbanana]

These videos are so nice, i feel the development in lazer when you talk about these, keep it up!! Cant wait to play lazer

[@the.true.A]

you can play lazer, just not submit ranked scores

[@Jamtri]

I love these videos. Keep it up pishi

[@NooSixpack]

I just love that Pishi is making videos again :)

[@Imaproshaman7]

This is so cool! I really hope that catch just uses simple circles because every Lazer version is so hard to read to be honest. My biggest issue though, is that I really hope there's an option to enable combo and combo lighting above the catcher like stable has. It really helps me stay centered, like the combo being in the center does for mania players. Regardless, this is awesome. I'm really excited to see all the fun things Lazer will provide when it's finally merged with stable. I feel like it's really gonna revitalize the players.

[@polyva_]

3:06 I reported that on GitHub! It's so cool to see something that i reported getting changed and then also appearing in this video!

[@nebuladevelopments]

These update videos are so well made

[@callmespaghet]

nice changes as always (even though they were tiny) but im still waiting for the stable sorting system, i actually want it so badly that i wont change to lazer until then

[@fatnerd9985]

Personally i think argon (or skins in general) should have a toggle in the settings for 300's showing after getting hit, sorta like toggling combo bursts, it makes argon really unreadable for more advanced players who are dealing with like 12 circles on screen at a time at the very least since the screen is just filled with 300's that look like circles, ofc it wont matter to new players since they have like 5 circles max or something on screen at one time but i think this toggle is a massive step to making argon readable.

[@j6papertek727]

no

[@Alice_Fumo]

Why not think a step further - the skin editor should have an asset section where you can easily add and remove stuff and should be by default be populated with all the items from all the skins you have installed and 1 empty object, so that you can quickly build a skin with your favourite things from all the skins.

[@j6papertek727]

@@Alice_Fumo yes, its planned

[@zenvoidd]

I remember downloading Lazer a few months ago and it felt super weird compared to stable but now it feels basically the same!

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

glad to hear!

[@meow2841]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow what do you think of 727

[@NucEn]

Great update video as always! Now there's only one thing I could imagine being improved: touch controls for mobile to become playable

[@chuck948]

A suggestion. Remove longest combo UI when your current combo is the longest one. Make it appear only after you break and your current combo is no longer the longest one

[@pradipta._raka]

thank you for making this game peppy

[@janluofficial]

I liked that its a longer update video

[@Daemonll]

I liked this longer update video

[@LtSerg756]

Idk why I love watching these so much, I don't even consistently play Osu lmao

[@GaomonAndLucario]

1:39 HONESTLY??? That should be a feature added into the game. I know it was NOT intended in the slightest but it could be one of those unintended features. Could be an option when selecting/highlighting hits to adjust the color to be dual-color (that you can customize). Of course, also having an option for the user to turn off that feature would help too (for accessibility/performance). Overall though, this might be a good way for beatmap creators to spice things up and make things EXTRA colorful!

[@ylerian8878]

I've noticed that there isn't a way to sort beatmaps by favorites. I feel like that should be implemented

[@kjyu]

soo based maps to showcase during these videos, Culprate bangers and Kikuo this time!

[@kon.1896]

I hope the performance optimizations are on the way, as that's the only thing holding me back from switching to lazer.

[@heyn]

4:10 willy owned

[@Eezku]

Yay more updates

[@Haru_Nashi]

Yeaaahhh babbbyyyy more update

[@chitoge4321]

so sick! :3

[@adeussucks]

glad to see ctb got the attention it needed god bless

[@bike_n_fish]

I would like to see the same colors of argon mania into a skin for standard

[@MissingMeep]

This is great! Is there any chance of adding a skin-priority, or backup skin selector? (basically setting a backup skin, for if there are any missing elements of your current skin) Or possibly setting skins for each mode, like say I have a "classic" (game based) Taiko no tatsujin skin I want to use for Taiko, A skin, for Standard, and using Argon for Mania, then being able to have it pre-set so You don't have to change it before swapping modes?

[@Speykious]

I'm still waiting for the editor to be on par with stable. For that day when hitsounds are just gonna work, and we're gonna be able to make storyboards in it too. :D

[@Loxu69]

So close to getting rid of scorev1 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

[@Sifonez]

THANKS

[@countdracula7896]

Idk if the HPs of maps are intentionally the way they are to be very very low and allowing me to pass hard maps even though I chain missed lot of notes. On current stable version I would have failed the same maps after missing only 2-3 notes. This somehow has taken away from me a sense of achievement when I clear something hard which is supposed to have high HP. Again not sure if this has been talked about before so sorry if I'm asking something that's already been answered before but I actually don't know. My personal suggestion would obviously be to have the HP as well similar to what it is in stable.

[@yuzakuzwei4094]

yes, I feel the same but I also feel the hp is harder to recover compared to stable or smth? Idk its hard to describe

[@Nekomosh004]

osu! lazer update! \o/

[@MrCurryCH]

one day ill get used to the ui, which is a worthwhile compromise considering how good lazer runs compared to stable.

[@berserker5313]

Very nice

[@lulkaku]

looks great. always enjoy when dev release vids like this.

[@thebyzocker]

no it wasnt too long, i liked it like this :)

[@TheMagmanat]

I want my sort by difficulty and sort by mode backkk

[@IKURO27]

I hope peppy will make osu lazer for mobile is more playable

[@lastlyhi]

Same

[@jinrex2445]

its gonna need a ton of optimizations

[@Moox_0]

Lazer is quite an impressive bit, I really like the design choices. There is one thing that will always be missing to the game to me, it's sound ultra low latency support, I wish I could use hit sounds but because of the delay I always have to disable them (and other sound effects, even menu ones, because there is only one slider). My brain can't tolerate more than 15ms between my keypress and the sound it produces (most players seem to just adapt to it, I'm one of those who can't ) Every modern keysounded rhythm games using ASIO now feel just fantastic, namely DJMAX / EZ2ON, I truly wish osu! could implement it even if it's proprietary, sound interfaces that are compatible are more popular than ever.

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

it's on the list

[@Moox_0]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow delighted to hear that!

[@hypergu]

I just wish the optmizations start sometimes its unplayable

[@gusmusicau]

The lazer editor looks gorgeous

[@arbiter6859]

I remember playing duplication and said: "If only osu would add like a time warp effect just like dio's the world so hitting the notes in sync of the music would be way cooler to do"

[@meep_project]

I think Osu! really need a "dan" Beatmap like other Rhythm games had tho.... It could be great to Improve stamina and Other skill

[@SamuelCukas]

exclusive fullscreen for optimus gpu when

[@VexedSteak]

no way, 7 minutes changelog video

[@Apple_Beshy]

LEZZ GOO MERGING

[@RainStorm2]

wow this is cool

[@redfox8898]

I just realized OliBomby was that person who made osu!mania for scratch

[@realshin6374]

the only thing that stop me from using lazer is i dont want to have another 100gb of my song folder

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

watch this space

[@uwuowo7775]

Yes

[@pedrohenriqueboscofi]

sooooo yea...... the judgemens are really intrusive

[@ck-kc2903]

im gonna explode. fire emoji

[@giatay9326]

I'm getting a black screen on this current version... specs are rx 580 egpu and ryzen 5 3550h

[@xxbatat4xx]

image osu!lazer in 2024

[@DestructionX09]

what's the song/map at 6:36? loving these updates btw, thanks!

[@hpe9672]

I like lazer but i get massive latency spikes and fps drops randomly so it’s borderline unplayable, maybe it’s just my low spec PC but I’m not sure

[@ZXCubed]

just noticed theyaremanycolors playing near the start of the video

[@mrraakk]

would there be mmr setting in multiplayer for lazer? different from leaderboard would be nice if its seasonal ranking too

[@tyrengaming9272]

Need compabilty mode

[@glixh_hunt3r]

POg

[@lester4532]

Man when will multi finger streaming be added in Lazer Mobile

[@agegarret7036]

Can the shaky smoke thing come back as an optional setting. It's kinda funny

[@c0llateral192]

Peppy, please add the sound calibration setting, I use linux and the sound latency is a bit weird, so calibrating it would be awesome!

[@lazyh0rse]

If you use pipewire, the latency is almost nonexistent

[@c0llateral192]

@@lazyh0rse that's true, but even I using pipewire, the clicks are a bit weird

[@lazyh0rse]

@@c0llateral192 How about increasing the frame rate? I notice that it's a lot more snappier when I increased it to 4x.

[@vad1mcso244]

osu! is saved

[@vtntgaming]

osu! is good, osu!lazer is amzing.. but both 2 combined is the best!

[@whitecat.31]

Just a bit sad that the original osu! will have its retirement... Well lazer is also great and what's good in it is it's compatibility to all platforms but just love the current osu! stable... Well, time to say goodbye...

[@aTree1]

interesting!

[@shogo-100]

6:35 PEDALNOTE I REPEAT PEDALNOTE

[@SBMMBOOGIE]

I’m a casual sweat is this like the actual game kinda version and what we all play on is just a online head to head kinda play

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

this video may contain some answers for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6XChIKomqifmcU it’s going to be released as a huge update soon

[@2kata]

i like the standard argon skin, but the circles been bigger than the sliders, and i assume hitboxes is kinda ugly and cant be good for gameplay aswell, which i thought was the whole idea of the skin.

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

have you tried it?

[@roman_pokora]

3:32 Why? Lazer should expand new reading horizons for players, why come back to an old version? Maybe this feature should be realized as a switch. Also, please, add 4k resolution capabilities for skin elements. Current @2k sprites sometimes not enough for a 4k monitor, thanks.

[@theventman9227]

Is there a way to widen Mania notes on Lazer? Because I need this for Mobile Osu Mania....

[@Nekomosh004]

no catch in argon yet? NOOOOOOOOO ;-;

[@Unknow_zz]

Pepper

[@Zenkai_ver]

Lazer update

[@ElysiumGD]

Cool, also Osu! isn't on Steam, where do you find a download something, would like to try it some time... Edit: I found it nvm

[@SanzuRiver]

How to ruin a minimalist skin - add 300 hit judgements

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

nice

[@solicoli]

@@DeanHerbertMooCow don’t you dare

[@MyllerOficial]

PLS WE NEED MULTI TOUCH SUPPORT FOR MOBILE

[@L3KON]

👍

[@clee2423]

is osu lazer gonna support another renderer like vulkan/etc ?, because i feel like there's so much fps dropped in osu lazer compared to the stable osu

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

yes, soon

[@fatnerd9985]

Just tried changing ui scaling in lazer, uhh it changes EVERYTHING including borders in game in std, peppy pls fix border is not where it should be. Skin example is owotuna 1.4 mathi cyberdark

[@DeanHerbertMooCow]

the skin is using an unsupported feature. lazer has a border setting so please use that instead.

[@iamfancylad5176]

yay :)

[@tuyer_tw]

is there a way to make lazer looks like stable cuz osu lazer looks too fancy to me(gui)

[@TheKevinGDX]

OMG 😱

[@worthyspear4022]

Lazer upadateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

[@kylegrefe4399]

Custom skins still cause an immense amount of lag in Lazer. Any idea when that will be fixed?

[@sushiboss]

osuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

[@IN-pr3lw]

W

[@mattialombardo8299]

pls add the BPM in skin

[@mixufyo]

one question i have is, when will the osu!lazer testflight be open again?

[@hvddox]

I honestly LOVE lazer, my only concern is the gameplay "feel". So far, not quite the same feel as stable, but I hope changes continue to be made to make them feel the same.

[@deleted-test]

yeahh, yesterday I tried lazer and it just feels wrong. there's something missing, but i can't pinpoint exactly what.

[@Rick-gd1uw]

because it runs like shit, even at high fps your cursor feels like its running at 10ms

[@deleted-test]

@@Rick-gd1uw yeah latency definitely is a thing in lazer. hoping to see more performance changes

[@mcgigglemuffins]

Give me back percy😭😭😭😭😭😭