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If ARO’s are actuslly this easy, is Infinity N4 actually complicated? If N4 isn’t complicated, do we need Code One? 🧐
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[@CornerCase]

Updated version of the ARO Flow Chart is REVC drive.google.com/file/d/1adKU_qjgB3eAXvROqzAr9cYgEhz8xcKy/view?usp=sharing Special Thanks to Head Chime and W!

[@Mikey__R]

If N5 uses flowcharts instead of text for each rule, that would push CB towards writing rules that can better be expressed as flowcharts. That would also make internationalisation much easier, as they'd just need different text in each box rather than needing to rewrite entire paragraphs. I can't see any downsides.

[@CornerCase]

I think a lot of games can manage rules visually, but it requires a thorough understanding of the rules, and a bit of creativity. I think the flow chart actually also makes it clear how complex a decision is. I think a potential side effect (I don't know if this is good or bad), is that it may encourage game designers to evaluate their games in terms of how short they can make these flow charts.

[@Mikey__R]

@@CornerCase exactly. If a rule is too complicated to visualize, then it's possibly too complex for a new player to learn.

[@KevnKalifornia]

Good video, but the choppy audio/video editing/cut method of this video hurts my brain

[@CornerCase]

Thanks Kevin! We actually have improved on this in the last 5 or so videos. We’ve switched to a less choppy style. Thanks for the feedback! Keep it coming. Super appreesh

[@be-noble3393]

A good way to help someone in N4 (Infinity in general) in the demo game make a scattered list. IE: don’t make an effective list but one that shows all the things that can happen.

[@CornerCase]

Please tell us more

[@GaleOfTheVale]

That sounds like a video idea (or maybe cut up into a series). A planned out battle report where all the moves and rolls are planned out like a script to exemplify as many rules and interactions as possible. The lists would be scattered like you said to provide all the opportunities for example situations.

[@arrik1]

@@CornerCase You make a set of models that show the basics of the game. Pretty much Icestorm.

[@be-noble3393]

​@@CornerCase Story Time: My first game of Infinity almost drove me away from the game. The person running the demo game was something of a power gamer. The individual in question was really only running a demo to destroy the inexperienced. It was this poor intro experience that formed my belief in what I call the Scatter List. Also, don't worry I later found a good local group where they helped me with the learning curve (Note: this was at the tail end of 2nd Ed. Infinity). What is a Scatter List? A list that is purposely less optimized but still provides examples of the Infinity's rule set. I will always include two infiltrators and an airborne deployment trooper in the list to show off different deployment options. I also always attempt an infiltrate roll on one of the infiltrators because it shows how some skills are optional, also to demonstrate how some skills can fail. I also include a hacker because hacking is something every faction (minus Ariandna) has to contend with. I will include these expensive specialist models but no "cheerleader units" in this list to demonstrate how important the order pool is in the game. Also, I show the other player both my courtesy list and my proper list primarily because this concept is sometimes alien to players coming from other game systems. This type of list is the sampler box to whole of the Infinity game system.

[@8triagrammer]

I make it Even easier than that, identical lists,6 line troops with combi rifles all the same stats, plus 1 heavy infantry with an HMS with all the same stats. This way I have everything memorized And never have to look anything up during the game, so I can focus on explaining the game And hopefully having fun. It's also Less overhead for the new player, obviously.

[@nonchalantgarage]

This tool is LEGIT!

[@OmnipotentPeaceMan]

Bro please redo this video, the constant jump cutting is so annoying.

[@CornerCase]

Thanks for the feedback! We’re working on it now.

[@supachigga]

I think the "hit by template and hove no LOF to attacker --> Dodge" should include PH -3

[@CornerCase]

We’re trying not to list out all the mods, because those are fluid based on the situation. The exceptions and specifics list at the bottom will include mods, but the mainline flow chart, we’re trying to keep it tight. Thanks tho 😊

[@8triagrammer]

Yes code one is useful for new players, if only for 2-4 games, then switch to full version

[@CornerCase]

Yeah, guys on my discord like it. If y’all are having fun, that’s what’s important.

[@CornerCase]

Also, thanks for your contribution!

[@Chris-bd6ll]

Awesome thanks for this man, Just getting into N4 for the first time and visual tools like this absolutely help me.

[@carkos98]

It's a mith that people are visual, listener, etc. People respond to information that is given logically, progressively and simply. Then they need different perspectives to graps the whole concept.

[@crouchingotter]

What a great idea. On first review the only thing I can suggest adding is getting shot through smoke/white noise and msv1, msv2, sixth sense etc.

[@CornerCase]

Yeah, we added an exceptions list actually! The second half was incorrectly labeled at first. It is now labeled to reflect Zero Vis. Please see REVC in the pinned comments or description 😊

[@supachigga]

@@CornerCase That zero vis description is great. I'd probably just add two simple lines: Troopers without MSV treat smoke and eclipse as zero vis. Troopers with MSV treat white noise and eclipse as zero vis.

[@Mikey__R]

@That MrShy is a true gent.

[@CornerCase]

Yeah really appreciate him reaching out to me all the time. He’s been super welcoming and supportive

[@Flipflopskipskop]

There is a rulebook?!? What?!? Where? Dude I think that would have helped

[@brendonsorenson5560]

Thank you!!!!

[@Caffeinated-Bladesmith]

Definitely agree to the scaffolding of rules problem/lack of clarity. In codeone, you place mines using the drop deployable skill, but that's the only deployable I know of it codeone. Then, if you think somebody passed within range of your mine you check the template and don't reveal or detonate if you were wrong. I get that this means the mine is still camouflaged with a mimetism of -3, which is cool, but at what point was your opponent confused about whether it was a mine or not? Maybe this builds good habits for n4, but this seems really cluttered and cloak+dagger for no reason. I placed a mine, you know I placed a mine, but you can't shoot it until you discover it. The number of "help me understand this rule" posts on the subreddit outline how much of a problem the game has with clarity.

[@CornerCase]

Thanks Bladesmith! Super agree! Yeah, my buddies constantly have a difficult time ramping people into the game. I'm actually in the process of redoing this video, and making more How To Play. Hopefully it ends up being helpful.

[@d.esanchez3351]

I'm super new to infinity code one (mostly because I don't have many friends to play with). So I'm more of a lore fan BUT I've also thought of that. And tho I've never used a mine I think it's mostly an area control think. As you say it probably makes more sense in N4 but I can imagine for example needing to redirect forces from a side of the table to the other but dropping a mine to secure a passage for example. It won't stop my enemy but he might spend an extra action getting around or he might get injured. Again, I've never actually done it but I've thought of it in plays. Buuut yeah don't take my word.

[@Crabsy92]

Looks interesting. I am not very much into those kind of charts during games (beacuse amount of stuff you have to bring to inf is already massive) BUT i think it might be super useful during reading rules, just to put it in order in your head. definetly will give it a try. also, love your micrphone holder

[@CornerCase]

Lol as a slow player, I will definitely still be faster even if reading this 😂

[@lynchthefish2132]

I have played SO many wargames and skirmish games. It IS a complicated. BUT: it is logical, it makes sense and it is SO friggin cool. If it's your first one, all the others will be easy by comparison. If not, it's a great way to step up your game. Either way, it's worth playing. So figgin cool.

[@GaleOfTheVale]

YESSS I need all the help I can get!!!!

[@CornerCase]

Same! I actually haven’t been getting in as many games as I’d like, but this will help me play faster. So hopefully I can go to tournaments soon.

[@thug4lyfe]

I didn't get pwnt last night!!!!!!!!!! :O!!!! Managed to storm the panic room!!!!

[@CornerCase]

LOL. Needs more explanation 😂

[@thug4lyfe]

@@CornerCase Zuyong and 2 Haidao stormed the panic room guarded by a bunch of a Yadus. The Zuyong just decided to rambo it with his hmg at close range and then breaker pistol, finally Haidao finished the job with his boarding shotgun. Oh man, close quarter fire fight is won by shotguns!!!!

[@CornerCase]

Sounds super super exciting! 😂

[@poweraffe]

Love that gave it straight to my community Sub is save :D

[@Access.Denied]

Love how you made this. I'm just getting into Infinity myself and this is such a great tool to have. Subbed.

[@ThomasGallinari]

I love Infinity, but the fact that you need such a flow chart to deal with the rules, is a proof that the game is complicated.

[@mattj1871]

Corner Stones Corner Case I see what you did there. LOL

[@thetabletopskirmisher]

You can't cram 10lbs of ... stuff... into a 2lbs bag. The reason why Infinity is complicated is how the rules for each model interact with one another and the opponent's. This is from an Infinity player since N3 ,😄

[@CornerCase]

Lol yeah I’m doing my best but it’s super difficult to condense this down into a beginner friendly format. I’m going to keep trying though! I have been playing a lot since I made this video, and I’m working on a video about Orders right now, and a replacement for this video soon

[@cklai921]

@@CornerCase Good luck! You gave yourself a tough job but players who only play Infinity occasionally (like me) will find your materials useful 👍

[@MajorBorris]

Nice tool

[@CornerCase]

Thanks Christian! We're actually improving it now that I"m better at Infinity!

[@NoShitBoyz]

Why so aggressive cuts? Can’t you memorise the script? It makes your video (interesting and usfull!) hard to watch

[@CornerCase]

Sorry NoShitBoyz! We’ve gotten a lot of feedback on this, and we’ve improved it a lot! Also, I’ll be remaking this video soon, now that I have more experience!

[@jparks6544]

what kind of obnoxious editing is this? totally unwatchable.

[@CornerCase]

Thanks J! We got a lot of feedback since this video, and our new videos are a lot better. Thanks as always!

[@MisterCram]

The editing in this video is infuriating.