Leave Mike Israetel Alone! - Sh*t Talk

[@Alejandro-te2nt]

We asked for shit talks and we recieved. This is a remarkably democratic era for great Republic of Sikastan

[@phliuy]

The Democratic People's Republic of Sikastan

[@Swisskies]

As an irish person, you've won "the most Irish looking reception/living room" award, i bow to ye

[@ThomasMyles-u3w]

What is it about boomer Mammys specifically and that orange tone of curtain? I really do say this with total love and no sarcasm. I'll bet there's a study with Waterford crystal in one of those cabinets. With the glass panels? You know them. Where you keep the good tea set?

[@MellonVegan]

Oh really? Looks almost exactly like the place I lived in from 4-6 y/o in Germany. Although that one wasn't very typical. Nice to know I guess ^^

[@mayonnaise7921]

Never seen this channel before, but as soon as I clicked and saw the living room I knew what the voices would sound like. And that's before I noticed the big irish heads.

[@ryanalldread]

Looks literally exactly the same as the entrance to my father in laws house in New England too lol. Like it’s weird it’s so similar.

[@Joe-wt6eh]

Not the fat man pillow placement

[@dreamcrusher112]

boner pills hadn't worn off.

[@petersoar2886]

Oh gawd is that why I do it?!

[@N00BTUBER987]

Very well. I’m recalling my 17 dr mike hate bot accounts it was fun while it lasted

[@young_herc]

Those are rookie numbers. My Joel Seedman hate bots are nearing the thousands.

[@khubble8265]

Your conversations flow so well. None of it seems forced or like rambling. Movement from one topic to the next is fluid. Keep it rollin.

[@samj8932]

Just friends talkin. That's what we like

[@iainbarrowman9928]

Agreed. I also feel that there is a natural educational element to the videos. I get that they’re pushing more educational content, which I think is great. However, after last weeks episode I have 2-3 subjects I the. Wanted to look into.

[@AB-gx5zj]

i dont give a shit about any of these people but it's fun listening to you two talking about whatever

[@tommiller5362]

Videos are great, don’t need to be visually impactful. They’re audibly impactful! Substance over upholstery. 💪

[@CCHUNKSTER]

Not sure why it took me so long to click on one of these videos, but they will be in my weekly rotation from now on. Go on the boys

[@jman454]

Normally in the scenes that I watch like this, the couch is black...

[@karelenhenkie666]

Theres a sexy redhead on the couch though, we should get the same results😂

[@brandoalulema3654]

Still two guys involved tho, that remains consistent

[@AB-gx5zj]

@@brandoalulema3654 and a dog right hahahaaaaaaaa no

[@GrandmasterFerg]

That room is extremely Irish looking

[@cluisdotorg]

I for one watch you guys because its just nice to see a couple buddies building something together. I don't do lifting, barely follow the sports you talk about, certainly am not an athlete. It just gives me hope to see a couple guys figuring out how to make a living out of a thing the love, in the goal of helping folks out. Good stuff. Lockpicking Lawyer is a good example on one side, his joy in the act, and the brevity of the videos and staying tight on his subject is great. On the other side you have content creators that have a particular focus, but consistently branch out looking into new things, talking about topical items the odd react etc. You two have IMO a nice balance in between. Call it a 80/20 split? I don't know, just keep doing what yer doing and it'll be good. :D

[@TerriblyNice_Not]

You almost said exactly what the problem with the Hubermans (et al) of this world is. You have a bunch of Dunning-Kruger effect people who want to pin themselves to what they think of as a clever person so they can be thought of by other Dunning-Kruger effect people as clever by association. But the issue with Huberman and the others is that they were very capable in one area, and then started speaking on other topics they didn't know as much, or often anything about, but used their veneer of expertise when doing so to give them automatic legitimacy

[@TheMightySilverback_]

Huberman frequently has exceptionally qualified individuals in those fields on as guests though, Israetel rarely if ever does the same. Obviously Huberman steps outside of his own expertise at times but at least you would see him getting corrected or informed by his guests. When Mike debated Coach Greg he came off as an angsty teen who read 5 studies and acts like there's nothing else to discuss.

[@waleedabbas4996]

@@TheMightySilverback_ Huberman is even worse with how frequently and confidently he speaks on things out of his expertise. Secondly, what was there to discuss? Greg literally backtracked on everything and watered down his positions. Nothing Mike has said or done will ever come close to the Turkesterone fiasco.

[@bradymanning647]

I just want more Ilya training video commentary! Mondays in Kazikstahn is the single best video on youtube

[@20timesshoota27]

murphy is so CUTE

[@20timesshoota27]

not talking about eoin

[@sikastrength]

Oh Okay 🥲

[@20timesshoota27]

@@sikastrength he's a horse though

[@MrAmadeus1998]

@@20timesshoota27 no, a fridge.

[@dfitz5384]

"is this recording..?"

[@kgsonly]

eyy its the fitz

[@MysticMyrth]

I like the sh*t talks because you guys have good chemistry (craic?) and it's nice to hear two people talking who get along. It's background stuff for me. And it's interesting to hear what you guys are actually into (like not technical stuff). The hunting stuff, Irish history, whatever. Oh I liked the quizzes yall were doing.

[@MrAmadeus1998]

I watch these because it feels like I’m hanging out with gym bros that know what they’re talking about and give out good training/life advice.

[@eugenepoon]

With your point on Huberman and "expert running out of stuff to talk about" and going out of their lane: Neil Degrasse Tyson is a big one. He's a physics guy that has somehow been seen as the all things science and engineering expert for genpop

[@vlada]

Bill Nye has engineering degree but is a self designed expert on many science fields including biology.

[@t3e_e]

​​@@vladaI would say there's a stark difference. Nye was very obviously a science communicator but NGT takes particularly strong stances on things he has no right to, and he'll claim these things "as a scientist." His sanctimonious, intellectually dishonest treatment of NHI and UAP is the shit cherry atop the shit cake that is his public contribution to science.

[@erickg667]

Elon Musk falls in that same category.

[@eugenepoon]

Sean Strickland is the one with beef with Goggins, no idea why

[@vlada]

He doesn't seem to like "gurus" of any kind and probably isn't impressed by a marathon runner talking shit because they have amazing pain tolerance.

[@Bestguy10]

Shit talk is One of the greatest, most underrated podcast discussions

[@buksyy3843]

2 shit talks in a week??? Our Sikasyan overlords are treating us well 😂

[@Arms.Enthusiast]

A lot of more edited videos have a pull for the genpop, but the genpop isn’t super interested in carrying over to your business cause they just aren’t part of the cohort of serious trainees after your product. So less editing is totally fine for the people who will actually pay you.

[@alexshagraev]

For impatient folks like myself, Mike's part starts at 35:50: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXnSfZ2Kn7-HisU

[@TieumaxVx]

My man, thank you very much

[@tytanowykarol]

Couch casting episode. Where can we get additional footage?

[@mcshuffles4032]

Dr Mike is the man. He went over his show and talked about how the tanning people messed up. Soon he’ll be posting a photo shoot hopefully will quiet down some people.

[@liyanqil]

"tanning" that is the most funny cope that I've heard from him. He has the muscles but not really condition and the lack of saperation hurts him. He needs to go back to the drawing board and get a coach.

[@harrison3910]

@@liyanqil he's retiring

[@liyanqil]

@@harrison3910 well not officially, basically a break or he has recently said it's 100% over now.

[@TieumaxVx]

Can someone time stamp the Dr Mike part please ?

[@rc-1983]

39:30

[@user-ii7xc1ry3x]

Sh*t Talk best talk

[@weshu]

My Favorite stoic quote: “Whenever disturbing news is delivered to you, bear in mind that no news can ever be relevant to your reasoned choice. Can anyone break news to you that your assumptions or desires are wrong? No way! But they can tell you someone died -even so, what is that to you?" -EPICTETUS, DISCOURSES, 3.18.1-2

[@MellonVegan]

Feels like a weird quote. Is that a mistranslation? Of course people can tell you that your assumptions are wrong. I can assume it's going to rain and that can be wrong. Unless assumptions should have been something more like morals, convictions or the like. Those concepts are more vague. But "no one can tell me my assumptions are wrong" very much sounds like Trump 2016 xD

[@weshu]

@@MellonVegan I don’t think Epictetus lived with his head under a rock and he’d facepalm if that’s what he inspired someone to do. Just take from the quote what you will 😂

[@weshu]

@@MellonVegan the moral is really to just not be too easily influenced by the world, eg melodramatic Americans who say “omg I’m gonna move to Canada!” After seeing something on the news that truly has no effect on them. Or, people who change their core values on a whim after hearing something else is en vogue. Etc. etc

[@ericooliveira9693]

19:05 suspicious

[@LatimusChadimus]

*rubs handa together* This oughta be fun

[@n00dle_king]

No one (ok far fewer) would be shitting on him if he didn’t go out of his way to get on every podcast possible make insane claims about things that are way out of his area of expertise and say getting his pro card is going to validate his training style.

[@movestattoo4561]

I don’t mind Israetel (even tho he has a whole different channel where he talks about things he has no expertise on with a lot of conviction lol) but I really dislike his fans. They have put him on a pedestal and think that everything he says is gospel and the only way to do things which is just false.

[@n00dle_king]

@@movestattoo4561 I don’t really use Instagram so I feel like I miss out on the worst of his goofy Pencil neck followers.

[@fluffyscruffy]

Nick Shaw and Jared Feather both have their pro cards, so not sure how it speaks about RPs training style more than on Mike's genetics.

[@samj8932]

His video on nootropics made me question his ability to comprehend studies lol. It was so bad and taken so badly by even his own fans with the most basic level of knowledge about nootropics he took it down. You can still find a review on it if you search it ip though.

[@n00dle_king]

@@fluffyscruffy hey I don’t disagree but he says that’s why he’s still gear.

[@daNgLez888]

Mike doesnt leave anyone else alone

[@sportyv1k1ng]

Ye’ll be on the next “Mrs Brown’s Boys” xmas special, at this rate…! Shout out to Father Algo too..,!😂

[@Yupppi]

It's ironic that Israetel has said in multiple occasions that the reason he started using PEDs was to get that useful information to all the knuckleheads who can only gauge "much muscle = much knowledge" and now his professional capacity is being judged based on his bodybuilding competition placements. Like does Brad Schoenfeld look like Mr. Olympia? Not at all, yet he's just about the god of hypertrophy knowledge. It's a shame that people who could get their best physique possible from his advice prefer copying Ronnie Coleman's training and probably injuring themself for good. However, it's the vocal minority and malicious actors like Greg Douche. I believe he attacked Menno Henselmans as well recently, who is just as great of training science communicator. I guess it just speaks about the person and how much valuable things they have to say if that's their method of operation. On the other hand everywhere you click in the evidence based fitness field, you'll find people knowing and digging Israetel. Like in youtube comments you will find positive mentions about him on just about any channel. You said how people should have some doubts on what they hear online and from experts, like Huberman talking about topics he has no idea about. I think as a scientist who has built his platform on the idea of being an expert sharing professional knowledge, you have some responsibility and intellectual honesty to respect when you dabble outside your world. As general audience it's tough to follow when someone makes that leap from being an expert in the topic to being just a smart guy talking out of his ass and interpreting single studies with very narrow understanding of the field. The level of confidence as a scientist should reflect your knowledge on the topic and field. There's for example a whole different atmosphere if you listen to people like Eric Helms and Eric Trexler talk, what they're willing to confidently say and when they point out that they don't have a good understanding or enough data, but if they had to personally make a guess, here's what they would say. Israetel is more confident on interpreting or guessing, but on the other hand even without the personality, there's the business and being a mascot to the business creating attraction and interaction in media. He's also willing to make all kinds of statements about AI and medicine, but those he does in casual conversations instead of with the expert hat on. I guess if you want to summarize, being a human and navigating in the sea of media communication is tough. On all fronts and sides. So many things to keep in mind and consider and then there's the interaction with other humans as well, preferrably with positive goals. On not shit talk subjects: god damn olympic judo has been on a good roll now that it started. Hifumi Abe naturally dominating the whole -66 kg. Surprise defeat of Uta Abe. Luukas Saha giving the rank 1 Vieru run for his money. Olympic broadcast producer showing the injured players at the patching station and repeatedly playing back clips of getting injured, against judo broadcasting rules. All kinds of stuff!

[@slee2695]

Go outside

[@Robdutton91]

@@slee2695🤣🤣

[@Robdutton91]

@@slee2695🤣🤣

[@liamstephenson1686]

BPC/TB stack is a game changer for injury recovery.

[@paulsohns3930]

Wooh another one. 🎉

[@iMakeBangerz]

This looks like the reception area of a very homey small-sized church

[@Ryanv7x]

Oh man shit talk FTW!🎉❤

[@DrVonHugenstein]

did markbell get deleted before or after he went completely off the rails

[@johnbooker8512]

nice one fellas

[@bechirmnissi6771]

Hi Sika, I'm 24 years old. Which Olympic sport, if I start now, would give me the best odds of succeeding in it?

[@celo_gutierrez]

Depends what country you live in. What is your background in sports? Are you an anaerobic or aerobic athlete? Consider sports with late debut is common. You need to be specific with your dispositions, body type, and resources in your area to make an Olympic appearance happen.

[@MrAmadeus1998]

Jeu De Paume

[@DrVonHugenstein]

two irish guys describe there personalities and I just want to diagnos

[@Runner-Boy]

The way i see it its his choice to do what hes doing just likr smoking

[@digitaldqqm]

is this gogglebox

[@joh9000N]

Another shit talk lets gooooo

[@peterdearborn]

Zen koan, "what is the sound of one hand clapping?" answered: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXnSfZ2Kn7-HisU

[@melvincastro1082]

More sleeping dogs 😊

[@granjerojose]

comment for the algos lads

[@adamb5142]

I mean its kinda his fault, he threw shade at everyone, so now everyone is throwing shade back 🤷‍♂

[@Trynottoblink]

Can someone give the timestamp for when they start talking about Mike Isratel?

[@MellonVegan]

35:something said someone in another comment

[@kmolnardaniel]

The vizsla stays in the podcast from now on.

[@themumblingtacos]

do a deep dive on "the Bart Kay" ,sorry in advance!

[@pauldavies7251]

Please don't he's an idiot I can't stand his name 😂😮

[@stephenelrick3319]

The inside of aluminum cans are lined with plastic unfortunately

[@DrVonHugenstein]

"far left"

[@plumbus8446]

Do you think Mike cycles tren or sarms

[@cluisdotorg]

...Plant...?... Dog! ... Dog.

[@cathalmurphy9612]

LFG

[@theicemanhaslanded]

It’s almost unnatural 😂😂

[@TheHighestNoon]

In the modern KZbin space, you gotta play the algo game. Reasonable people get this. Personally, I can overlook a channel having maybe 50% clickbait bullshit as long as the other half is still good info.

[@MellonVegan]

Meh. I can tolerate (not accept) clickbait titles if the videos are good. But entire clickbait videos, as in videos made just bc they get attention? That'll be the last time I watched that channel.

[@McMeatBag]

Clickbaited me with that title

[@wearetheremnants1615]

This summer wettest shortest and coldest in living memory , in britain . Not sure about over there.. no idea where thry have been measuring temps lol. The back of resteraunts in cities ?👀

[@zachboskovich6616]

Doggy

[@kraftwerk974]

💉💉💉💉💉💉💉😜

[@andrewdiaz476]

Your thoughts regarding American Politics may be bullshit because it doesn’t affect you guys, BUT Europe seems to have a massive migration problem including Ireland. Would like to know if it is really as bad as the alarmists say it is or if it is.

[@naantjez]

its not

[@Swisskies]

They'll probably say the same thing, I live in Ireland and I don't really know what the whole "european migration crisis" craic is. Maybe we're insulated because we're a north western island, or maybe it's just another american talking point to shrug your shoulders at

[@dogcatdogable]

ireland's 'migration problem' is just the latest plaything of american right wing agitators. they'll get bored soon enough.

[@MellonVegan]

As a general rule, there are some integration issues (and in Germany, the issue is the lack of the right kind of migration, actually) but most of the public and media opinion is being driven by isolated but extreme incidents that are then also misrepresented by the media bc they obviously report on things months or even years before the police and courts have done their job. Like that mass rape incident at Cologne main station some years back. Turns out that never happened or at least not like the stories said. There were mainly hundreds (iirc) of accounts of women reporting being groped but it seems like they were also just pickpocketed. Apparently, they did one crime to hide the other. There may or may not have been a rape case, I don't quite remember. But what did the media say? "50 immigrants rape young woman at main station, each taking turns." That one fabricated incident (and maybe others like it) is the main reason Germans want African and (not East-)Asian immigrants gone. It's just lies for hate-clicks. There are real issues with immigration but people never actually address the real issues.

[@MellonVegan]

29:42 I didn't see that clip but just found out that this is a gross misrepresentation. That makes him sound like a terrible bigot. What that quote was referring to is woke people dead-naming his son/daughter. In other words, he was quoting others and their logic. That sounds well different to me.

[@NotLuigi]

That isn't at all what that Musk quote is referring to. I don't know how you can defend him as not a bigot when his own daughter who Musk is talking about in that very quote has refuted that entire interview and estranged herself from him because of his bigotry

[@waleedabbas4996]

You do realize Vivian has publicly addressed his bigotry now?