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[@dasmause5682]

Drazhoath: "What can one dwarf do against such reckless hate." Legend: "Ride out with me."

[@tenchimuyo69]

Dwarven Nobunaga moment.

[@abotaweela1]

Let's keep this at 69 likes, dinner for two

[@jahmive]

@@abotaweela1 :) the bromance died

[@slayerdwarfify]

For death and glory?

[@cookiecola5852]

@@slayerdwarfify, For Rohan! No wait, wrong universe

[@JustSome462]

The fact that the AI still resorts to starving you out when they are surrounding your last settlement with 10+ armies perfectly explains why defensive sieges might as well not exist in WH3

[@MrParadux]

Yeah. That move kind of makes sense, if the autoresolve is terrible, but it just is not fun. The ai has gotten better in the latest patches in just not running away and taking fights, even if those might be close losses. That is way more fun, though.

[@Floris_VI]

Yup, unsurprisingly wh3 sucks ass

[@12coudak000]

Thats why I play SFO + heclas AI and battle overhaul. It makes AI more aggresive

[@saltedllama2759]

@@12coudak000Aggressive doesn't mean better. That mod of the game has so many nonsensical and bloated add-ons; some of which are in response specifically to counter Legend's style of play in campaigns (have you seen the SFO guys in his live chats before? They hate his style of play lol).

[@a.d.r6960]

siege battle after the new patch is just complete waste of time and not fun at all, at least with the old cheese you can save a lot of time

[@Bitt3rSteel]

It's not a disaster campaign, it's a road trip!

[@lavahippo]

Whats your fav faction in wh3

[@torquevonthorne948]

A road trip started with a karge amount of green blood soaking the soil of the Howling wastes.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

@@lavahippo Karl Franz, obviously (but I have a soft spot for Mazdamundi)

[@lavahippo]

@@Bitt3rSteel but can you even blitzkrieg louen leoncour?? Or naval invade kairos? Mazdamundi in base game is a little bland. I like him in grimhammer though. My fav is hellebron. Witch elves go brrr

[@niksonrex88]

@@Bitt3rSteelKarl Franz supremacy 👑

[@splattbinat1542]

"Ruin's end" is such a fitting name for a capital during this campaign

[@Igelme]

LOTR tier shit

[@hereisjohnny1875]

Would love to see this campaign continue as a livestream

[@infectedanimal9830]

Second that, would love to see how he builds up power to return back

[@anirbanbhattacharya9185]

Seconded!

[@Dwilson1282]

fourthed?

[@Elsneakakaze]

fifth

[@MinscS2]

sixth

[@parmenides6800]

This feels like one of those old movie endings where the protagonist shoot his way out of a massive battle and go to far away country to live happily ever after

[@x0lopossum]

20:53 I DID NOT KNOW HEROES COULD HEAL THEMSELVES LIKE THIS!?!

[@zafelrede4884]

It's probably just bug abusing

[@jantjedoedelus8079]

This is what i really dislike about Warhammer. The enemy outnumbers you vastly and they just sit there and starve you out. 5 armies with 4 waaaghs and they are just like yeah nah.

[@AttaBek1422]

Dunno what edition of WH these Greens are from if they’ve got 9 times as many boyz but still don’t want to deal with siege casualties

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Very rarely happens for me. Most of the time enemies will just attack even if their AR is bad. Probably depends who you’re playing as.

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

Depends on your army composition largely. A single RoC unit can prevent a full stack from sieging you because RoC units are weighed so heavily in auto resolve. Its why you keep them ready to recruit, to save garrisons in auto resolve. If they are always instantly sieging you it means their armies are more powerful than yours. This includes the strength of the units inside the settlement. If your army is even remotely "scary" for the enemy it wont siege you but attempt to cause attrition instead. @@shmekelfreckles8157

[@j.jbinks9669]

But the moment one of your armies gets a hairs breath away from reinforcing...Instant attack and Decisive Defeat Auto-Resolve. Like why tf didn't you just attack if that was the Balance of Power? It really feels like the AI is hardcoded to waste player time at all cost.

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

I literally think they do it to preserve their own army. Given the chance they will run you down with attrition until they can dismantle your entire army in auto resolve with no losses. Its actually strategically highly effective against the player xD You lock the player down in a siege and have your AI Income pump out more armies to send to you in the meantime.@@j.jbinks9669

[@LuciusSicarius]

Just from a lore perspective, I feel like orks/orcs shouldn't be allowed to siege, they should be forced to attack as soon as they are able, or at the least suffer penalties like orks deserting from boredom or casualties from ork infighting or something. Maybe wouldn't be a good gameplay mechanic but would be an interesting race specific mechanic. Also, I'm very familiar with 40k orks not so much Warhammer Fantasy orks so maybe they behave differently.

[@planomathandscience]

Naaa, you're right.

[@ARIDCHOP]

Greenskins in Fantasy do conduct sieges, that's how many of the Dwarf Karaks have fallen from decades of being besieged. Greenskins will launch frequent attacks and get replenishment from other Greenskins hearing about the conflict going on. Orks are the same in 40k, just with warp travel and ships/roks.

[@Kydino]

@@ARIDCHOP Tnat just sounds like they're constantly attacking the settlement isntead of doing a proper siege though.

[@semi-useful5178]

@@ARIDCHOP Fantasy Orcs also have genitals. the reason they fight and raid is to get away from the nagging wife.

[@shorewall]

I think every faction, in every total war, should suffer attrition when sieging. That was how it was in history. You only had limited time to siege before your army ran out of food or got sick or just wandered off. That way besiegers are forced to assault and actually have a siege battle.

[@gijskramer1702]

You knew what you where doing with that thumbnail

[@TexasKosmonawt]

Oh.... oh dear god.... 😂

[@ZZuluZ]

??

[@gourmetauns]

the casting fortress

[@angun703]

Holy

[@R3GARnator]

Piper Perri surrounded meme. @@ZZuluZ

[@thekinshin3102]

This was one of my favourite save your disaster campaign and as someone else said, I'd love to see you continue it on stream after you are done with the high elves campaign.

[@chaseh432]

Damn! A desperate break out and retreat, running half way across the ocean to an isolated elven colony to set up a new Dawi Zharr stronghold! What a sick move!

[@pzatotalwar]

What better than saving disaster campaign to comeback to warhammer(video-wise). Absolutely loved the Outside of box thinking in this one, even as a veteran player I still learn new tactics and ideas from your videos. Keep up the great work.

[@joaogabrieldiniz3299]

Why do I feel like 1 dread quake mortar + lightning strike would make this whole situation a non-issue?

[@Christoph1901]

This is the main reason why the attacker/defender ratio for major settlement battles is 87/13. The only time I get to fight major settlement battles as the defender is with factions that get terrible garrisons and if no army is stationed in the settlement. That usually means fighting it manually is pointless or requires corner camping one of the main capture points to at least kill some of the attacking units. I think fighting defensive sieges with a lot of tools/units at your disposal could be really fun and cinematic. The real time battles are after all the main selling point of Total War games. They probably would need to reduce the autoresolve cheats for major settlements for the player to stop a more aggressive AI from throwing itself into a autoresolve meat grinder.

[@kibbylol]

bring back med 2 replenishment so the winner doesnt take all and doing chip damage is huge

[@starbomber]

I've seen a couple of these disaster campaigns now, watching you solve situations like these actually helped me save my Tehenuian campaign where I was being attacked by every human in Lustria, and also all the dwarves in the entire world. I managed to hide out in the southern Chaos wastes as well as on the Star Tower, and eventually get all my old territory back.

[@Iceman-135]

*sees how many armies surround the settlement* Me: hey I've seen that meme before!

[@hanspeter8982]

At least, I am not the only one!

[@mrh1390]

This reminds me of a similar disaster campaign years ago with Grom The Paunch against the Order-tide.

[@ewanedwards6822]

I still remember my most satisfying autoresolve moment back in TW:W 2, during a wood elves long campaign facing up against the chaos invasion. A unified front of all the major wood elf LLS prepared for the ambush to get spring-- Orion, Durthu, the sisters of twilight... And then Drycha came in from the top rope, I lightning striked with her to attack from the side of Archaon's massive legion of like 6-7ish or more stacks, and watched in absolute joy as the entire legion of chaos scattered to the four winds so that the other LLS could pick asses to kick, with my main lad Durthu getting to one on one archaon's army. Probably the most fun I had ever had fighting one of the end game crises. felt like it would have belonged in some big event book.

[@adammclaughlin845]

Are you trying to say... THIS SHOULD GO IN THE BOOK!

[@H0kram]

Man, even after years watching you, your problem solving skills and experience still amaze me mate.

[@ilari90]

"No one ever bothers to go to Tol Elassor." Once in Multiplayer my friend lost the battle vs oxyotl in southern chaos wastes, I told him to relocate to Tor Elasor, but Oxyotl began chasing him there after a while, luckily I had a plan for him: take the sea route from Tor Elasor to Cathay and start conquering those minor factions there, it worked nicely.

[@blackdragon1578]

Drazhoath got double exiled, poor dude.

[@Massivecow1337]

For why Drazhoath got such an insane amount of EXP on the second battle -- I'm pretty sure Lightning Strike still considers the other armies you "lightning striked out" for EXP gains. So those 2 other endgame crisis armies that would have reinforced still counted, even though they never got to fight. I do it a lot in my campaigns where I'll come across 2 armies I could handle easily, but I'll LS them to get some free levels. As for why the first battle gave less, I'm thinking it's because some of the first armies LS'd out were WAAGH! armies probably filled with garbage.

[@iliketurtles1096]

I dont hate the idea of the ai trying to starve you out, i do hate the idea that an ork wagh would try and starve you out, they would literally rather die fighting and lose than not fight

[@Roman_Imperator]

So you're telling me that the savage greenskins refuse to storm the capital of their enemy which they outnumber 10 to 1 and instead employ Fabian tactics ? The greenskins must have realised that they were facing Hannibal Barca of Total War games, and watched some videos about the Second Punic War 😂😂

[@GamesNosh]

You're so good at this, so seeing you play campaigns where for any average player it's basically impossible is great. Would like to see you longplay more continuation campaigns that are totally scuffed, maybe even this one! - when you have an actual challenge you really thrive and come alive, as opposed to just smashing the bad AI from the start (even with difficulty sliders at max)

[@inductivegrunt94]

Doomed campaign, as Drazhoath the Ashen. Time for a classic Dawi Zarr Blitz. This is basically how the Greenskin rebellion went until the Hobgoblins betrayed them. Except the Hobgoblins already betrayed them, so it's not happening again. Lightning Strike breakout into a southern retreat sounds like a solid plan. Honestly it's really the only plan to survive, let alone win, so Legend shows his intelligence again in a doomed campaign.

[@phantomthunder203]

nicely done, I feel like Legend forgot just how much friendly fire blunderbusses can get if units are places in front of them lol

[@WeeBDemon408]

39:41 the hill saga continues, but this time around in Warhammer

[@numka82]

Hot damn that was a whole movie. Would love to see a stream where Legend goes on to rebuild and get revenge on orks

[@sqwijs]

Living up to his name. Legend of Total War: Warhammer 3. Well done

[@KnightofBretonnia]

This is just the lore for why Drazhoath was exiled

[@Spectre1Gaming]

Using those Sea Lanes against a really bad senario I like it Legend well played buddy

[@boris4491]

i like how minimap markers on campaign map disappear when playing as chaos dwarfs, happens to me all the time and looks like same goes for the guy who sent the disaster campaign 😶

[@Revan_002]

Do you just need to zoom the map in a bit more maybe? Or just bugged?

[@boris4491]

@@Revan_002 Oh, you're right, it was just zoomed out too much, strange 😄

[@mewple]

Ive noticed the AI will almost always starve out a faction on their last settlement if its garrisoned, and walled. Its very stupid.

[@procrastination_at_perfection]

you can keep on going with this campaign if you like to bro. Really would like to see the turnaround and conquer back that area.

[@jumanahmad6526]

Imagine if respec feature is not impelemented until now. I really don't know how you're going to pull that off. Great stuff legend !

[@alirezarezaei2976]

I don't know why CA changed the siege attrition mechanic from WH2 to WH3? The WH2 attrition mechanic was fine It is so ridiculous that in WH3 the besieged army will take attrition immediately

[@splattbinat1542]

Since CA is in a listening mood I would post about this on their forums and reddit and hope they adress it with the next updates. They also changed that annyoing "increased winds when wind is blowing" crap with the good old + 10 magical reserves eventually

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Because otherwise there would be no reason to besiege anything at all. I always thought it was actually a good change.

[@olafthemoose9413]

Yeah that was a great change. Now it actually sometimes makes sense to besiege for a turn or two. In wh2 you needed to besiege for like 15 turns for them to even start taking attrition.

[@keilanl1784]

In WH2 there was literally no reason to siege a settlement. It wastes turns where you could be expanding and it takes multiple turns for defending armies to even feel punished from attrition at all. WH3's siege attrition change is good.

[@splattbinat1542]

But sieging also means unavoidable damage. It is beyond silly that a single lord can siege me and force attrition on my whole army while its garrisoned. If at least I would have immediately the option to sally out and kill the lord it would be a different story. @@keilanl1784

[@Roarpian]

That's amazing! Great thinking to re-spec for lightning strike. I start to wonder if we are playing the same game, at turn 25 i would still be running T2s... Also, does anyone find it ironic to have a lightning striking army breaking out from a heavily sieged city to camp at the corner and wait for enemies to come at them?

[@saltedllama2759]

That was a brilliant way to save a nearly impossible situation.

[@LOLERXP]

"A good pirate knows when to run." -Captain Jack Sparrow

[@ahizzy5566]

*Azhag breathes* Legend:I gotta take out Azhag, he's pissing me off

[@welsh7858]

It's nice to see you in good mood, Legend )

[@Lephim_]

since not friendly firing or getting obscured is the biggest problem with chwarfs, the best thing i came up with was a checker pattern kinda. you set your units in the most square like shape possible and put melee up and the blunderbusses on the back corners going however wide you need it

[@callumburns4809]

This is a great disaster campaign, would be a good one to continue further...

[@samhobbs9116]

I see legend is playing as Piper Perri today.

[@eljouser]

cheez those chaos dwarf spells are nasty. No wonder why fighting them is so tough!

[@a7xincauto655]

21:54 does it tho? didnt the army you just atacked still retain the waagh after killing Azagh?

[@month32]

Legend of Total Hills.

[@ghost28896]

1:03:59 "He's willing to do it for peace, unh for money" rofl

[@crayvun2196]

I'm annoyed the file was sent in like this! What a mess! But its seriously cool watching you sneakily scheme your way out, Legend! Good stuff :)

[@baconbliss4796]

I wish there was a "hide behind the walls stance" which basically worked like ambush bit hid armies inside a settlement so you could tey to make ai overcommit but the comes in on reinforce as but gives you 0 movement and some other penalties

[@Karina-winsmore]

This disaster campaigns should be publically avalible (both starting point and end point) for people to play. Could be a lot of fun.

[@adriankoch964]

Cool detail that the dreadquake effect doesn't seem to work on water surfaces.

[@saltamuertosturambar4050]

Consider doing a part 2 road trip video with the Chaos Dawi, pretty fun to watch

[@SCAPEGOAT316]

Legend can you fix my disaster campaign I started in 1991 and the evaluation bar just kept going down from there

[@tylerhunt-smith535]

Just adding my voice to the group clamoring for you to continue this as a livestream.

[@FantomMisfit]

53:05 "You are a degenerate" 😂

[@Grivehn]

This is like that bicycle meme where the guy puts a branch in his own wheel and trips. Thats what crisis is, especially early or ultimate. Youre turning a strategy game into a survival game. It makes for a fun video, but there is NO saving a campaign like this. Youre playing to have some challenging battles, not to win a campaign. At least thats my assessment. If some people feel like grinding it out against AI doomstacks with tier1-2 units, go right ahead... if you enjoy being a masochist, its your money and time spent. On another note, this is why I still take lightning strike. If you end up fighting greenskins, youra gonna need it. Especially if youre in the Darklands/Badlands, and even more especially if youre playing Dwarfs or Skaven. The former doesnt want overwhelming mobility ruining their backline, whilst the latter has weak single armies early on, so you want 1 on 1 fights. Cant necessarily rely on ambushes in the first 30-50 turns without any bonuses to it.

[@Floris_VI]

Yeah, and there is no point to this either, at least the high elves or dark elves or dwarves in wh2 became an endgame crisis organically and so were able to replenish their armies and you could also do diplomacy with them ofcourse. Wh3 just sucks imo, i dont like using magic in this game, it feels pointless to play much past turn 60, confederations are a pain in the ass, units are unresponsive. But then it also retroactively kinda ruined wh2 for me which is even worse

[@baronwalker2212]

And if you are playing as skarbrand? The greenskins just arnt a problem lol

[@leongais7821]

make a deaomons of choas units tier list plz

[@heirofwesteros]

Ah yes 1940 France strat

[@BlizzardAcolyte]

I imagine you could have EXPLAINED why redirecting attention to Azhag when you did was necessary, but frankly, it's much funnier to just leave it at, "he's pissin' me off"--like, you would be perfectly willing to let your strat collapse or falter for a couple of minutes, simply because you don't wanna see/hear the crazy Orc dude muttering to his helmet FOR A MINUTE MORE

[@baconbliss4796]

After the first battle i was surprised you didn't merge weak units and get regiments of renown

[@baconbliss4796]

Could have checked if kugath would either ally with you or go to war with orks on the settlement trade

[@smithylo3249]

I always go for lightning strike first. It's such a game changer!

[@nightsky1801]

Does it work to send convoys and disperse some of the armies from the siege?

[@CapybaraConnoisseur89]

AI is such garbage in this game I stopped playing, either it's passive, or anti player only, or it fucking sits and recruits inside settlements...or this! Just sitting around waiting god knows for what.

[@jxthenetwork8894]

The only time I’ve seen kugath be useful

[@Dmitrisnikioff]

Adding my voice to the chorus that this would make for a great livestream

[@LordPajzl]

you should/could have occupied ruins end as an outpost because it's a port town so it would give you extra 2% healing

[@arkorbravos7686]

So this is the story of the chaos dwarfs been at the brink of extintion at the hands of the greenskins, barely making it out by declaring war on Nurgle, to then make peace with it, all while attempting to get a new home, in the islands of some isolated elfs. somehow that all sounds cannon.

[@Shamman_komanch]

I like theese Disaster campaigns you could make 3hour video. I would watch it in parts.

[@XShotokanX]

Dunno, had a endgame scenario with Dwarves having six armes outside a T4 garrisson Karaz-a-karak and they launched an attack directly...

[@guillaume9102]

*set the endgamecrisis to max difficulty and earliest time possible* > *proceeds to be attacked by numerous greenskins armies, on verge of campaign defeat* > "Cry for Legend's help"

[@thoneras9611]

> Legend makes a Vid about it > Legend get some money in his bag > WinWin

[@epitelous6029]

Respec! You are a legend indeed!

[@brent0034]

Heard Shadows of Change were going to get a huge price drop, can anyone confirm this? I has refused to buy it until that happens.

[@Crucial_End]

That is very unlikely as CA said that they will add things to both SoC and ToD to make them worth the price so the price will probably stay the same.

[@WickedButRepenting]

Endgame crisis on turn 25?

[@theholyroman6283]

Love the total war warhammer 3 content lately2

[@SgtTeddybear66]

Also, It's not very Orky for Orks to siege instead of fight. Be cool if each faction had a different personality.

[@Pierre-Jonqueres]

How is there only already 136 factions turn 26 ?! Oo Even without ICCM, I'm never below 175 at this time

[@charlie8458]

Would like to have a part 2 of this actually

[@edwardroberts739]

This was a solid showing

[@scholaepalatinae4988]

Oh how lovely, they come to try to free da boyz

[@Kai-K]

At about 38:20 Legend says that they don't dodge so aggressively when not on very hard, but that behavior perfectly matches my battles on normal, very annoying how good the AI is at dodging bombardments in current patch wh3

[@j.jbinks9669]

Oh man, now I want to start up another Draz campaign with all my saved Lords & Heroes that have Thorgrim's trait, the construction trait *and* Phlegmatic and roflstomp tf out of Grimgor and Skarsnik out of spite with my effectively free and unlimited K'daii doomstacks on Turn 30 :p

[@TubeNewrome]

@awhellnah__ pay-to-have-fun race. You can win with any race

[@HandOfThemis]

​@awhellnah__ you could say that about skaven, orks, wood elves, high elves, khorne....

[@j.jbinks9669]

@awhellnah__ You say that as if you can't break ANY campaign with 6 or 7, 200+ Turn campaigns worth of specifically Traited out Lords and Heroes that you've been saving since the DLC released. Or do you think that only Chorfs can Save/Load Lords and Heroes? ANY -% cost modifiers for ANY race can result in a negative integer, effectively meaning you're being paid to build instead of paying to build. The only exception I've found so far is with Slaves and Labour, you can't be refunded those kinds of resources but you *can* get their cost reduction to 100%. Dark Elves can do the exact same thing, they just start a lot further away from the quickest and easiest way of getting a +10% Research Rate and -10% Construction Cost trait. Is Malekith Pay-to-win now too since you could do the same thing with him, just replace the K'daii with Black Dragons/Hydras/Shades etc, or do you think that maybe I've sniffed a little too much Warpstone and gone above and beyond with the express intention of breaking the game?

[@minnumseerrund]

Fly, you stunties!

[@herbtapp3031]

Me still on Warhammer 2 after 75 restarts with Imrik. I have OCD I refuse to play another character until I win, and my best is getting to turn 200 before Grimgor rains all heck on me. LOL!!

[@thorrrthegreat]

Can we please do a part 2?

[@milinmt]

It was a very interesting one ! Hope they make the IA attack the settlement tho

[@gustavosanches3454]

This is something that irks me about TWW in general, sometimes the game simply doesnt respect the player's time whatsoever. Fucking 10 armies sitting there just starving the player out, not even giving them the chance to have some fun defending something.

[@007mattattack]

Yeah thats the sad part. They built these amazing castle siege maps that you can never really defend them because the AI will never attack. They have more than 20x the amount of troops their enemy has. And they're greenskins on a WAAHH, they would 100% storm the walls. I would assume this is what the AI has to do when fighting a player, just drown them in numbers. The AI is never going to be smarter than the player so it really is a game of presenting harder and harder challenges to the player and see them pull off wins. A massive endless horde of greenskins attacking the walls feels like a super fun battle.

[@GabeOutOfOffice]

Couldn't you have recruited another lord, leave the army and attack with just Drazhoath? Prolly could even clean up every army there, except Grimgor - then bring the blunderbusses.

[@bmzarigueya]

Great video! Thanks

[@MrHellboy112]

huh, had no idea that dismount/mount heroes can heal them o.O

[@SailTheShip]

Yeah, it's doomed alright. More specifically my PC is if I tried playing that battle.

[@bar_jumper1312]

get in there and get it all

[@florinsimigiu6109]

F for the poor gobo

[@johnmcmanus2447]

I didn't know Megan Hall played Warhammer

[@FerrousAradicen]

"They sit there and starve you out" Well that's not very orkish at all.

[@bar_jumper1312]

in ttw 3 even the Ai hates settlement beattles :D