LELIT BIANCA in 2022 | Still Worth It? Truth About Ownership

Lelit Bianca Espresso Machine 2 Year Review.
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[@KyleRowsell]

For more flow recipes watch my top 5 recipe video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJuokpSrer2la8k

[@stephenelliot1440]

Great video! Thanks. I’m in Canada with this machine. Where did you get the fittings to plum it in? I went to a plumbing store and they said the hose wasn’t “regular” so would need special equipment

[@jt22420]

Hey Kyle. You said you were replacing this machine. With the same one? Or something new? Also, is the new low flow setting the only noteworthy change with the v3? I’m thinking the one advantage of the programmed low flow option is that i could steam milk at the same time.

[@jacksonrussell3095]

Going to buy a Bianca this week! My wife and I have been doing a ton of online research about machines in this price range, and your videos have helped give us a wealth of information to pull from. This machine looks better and better the more I look at it, excited to be buying one!

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah glad to be such a help!

[@moryalex]

Wait for its v3 it has good enhancements. Also, think about Bellezza Bellona Dual Boiler Espresso Machine it is so cheaper than Bianca almost half of the price and has better features.

[@gregorio5543]

I'd wait until V3 drops. It'll be worth the wait

[@swiftfx6928]

@@gregorio5543 Huh? I got my V3 just over a month ago (in the Netherlands) Does it drop later in the U.S?

[@steevski]

@@swiftfx6928 I just got a V3 in Canada last week. First one I’ve seen for sale here. They definitely took their time coming to North America..

[@brianmacinnis8511]

Thanks Kyle. Great video, jam packed with lots of info as usual. I love the look of the Bianca, it’s steampunk utilitarian design is very attractive. Makes you look like part alchemist, part plumber, all magician. I have a breville barista express and love it. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for the comment! Much appreciated

[@Kgk22314]

I purchased a Bianca about a year ago based largely on your channel. I have been completely satisfied with every aspect of ownership. I have not had any issues with the drip try leaking or losing the anti-vibration tabs. An auto on/off feature would be the only upgrade I would like to see. Can’t wait to see what they do with V3 and I certainly hope the acquisition by Breville is positive. It would be tragic if they ruined everything that makes Lelit awesome.

[@UncleSkiBum]

Great video, I'm still going strong with my Elizabeth as an upgrade to my E61 HX. Love the Bianca but the simplified work flow of the Elizabeth does it for me

[@Sn0wman5]

Nice B-roll intro with the water outlets. Not the usual open portafilter stuff we‘ve seen a ton. Congrats!

[@dougiecraig9157]

Spooky! I had the Sage (Breville) Barista Pro but just could not get it to work for me so I sold it in December 2020 and bought a Lelit Bianca and a Baratza Sette Wi which works really well. When I bought the Bianca it was easily the cheapest way to get all the functionality - PID, dual boiler, rotary pump, flow control. For home use I find the quality more than adequate and I have had no issues in 16 months. Ok, I am the only one using the machine so probably averaging 3 cups a day. I do find the drip tray awkward to remove and replace so I keep a small cup in the tray and just empty that more frequently. Love the videos so please keep them coming 🙂

[@hazenk5393]

Always love to watch ur video! I’m considering to get Bianca and ur videos helps a lot. Thank u for ur great works!

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for watching!

[@florianguigui1302]

Thanks for the very informative video as usual. Considering the Bianca v3, the fact is that prosumer machine with flow control and at least some electronics (auto turn-on, deactivate steam boiler), are pretty rare. The ECM/Profitec counterparts lack features even if they are built better (and more expensive). It's still the value king of prosumers' espresso machines.

[@KyleRowsell]

Well said! Thanks for watching

[@Penskeeee]

Good stuff. I got the V3 and the first thing I did was to fill the drip tray to the brim to see if it had that leaking issue. No issues so far *whew*. Great video and thanks for keeping it classy as usual- your WLL reference was not missed hehe

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for watching! 😄

[@carolinarobinson7033]

Thanks Kyle, your videos, knowledge and enthusiasm are awesome, I’ve been subscribing for awhile. Got hooked on James H prior, and finally upgraded to a Lelit Mara X and Eureka specialita a few months ago, honing the skills. Keep it up buddy!

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah you’re too kind. Appreciate the kind words!

[@matveip3727]

Thanks for your reviews! It did indeed convince me to buy the Bianca v3 And having a lot of fun with this machine and appreciate all your suggestions/ lesson learned shared!!! Quite a step up from my isomac and I was hesitating for the heat exchanger of profitec 500 but splurge and went for the Lelit. Cheers!!!

[@michalmacko8089]

Owning Bianca for a year now, no leaking like Kyle experience so far. Im using only a single boiler and it heats up the machine approx. 10-15min. If dual boiler is enabled, it does take 25-30min. Speaking of, the experience with the machine is just mind blow straight from the unboxing journey where it all begins. I hope mine will last me lifetime with a good care, it is the perfect every morning buddy companion. A tip before i go, use wood oil from time to time for the wood parts and replace the water filter often to prevent lime scale build-up from magnesium & calcium, it leads to shortening life of this beauty. Think of you heart and arteries clogged with cholesterol.. take care of your machine heart!!

[@eikarumba429]

I concur, been an owner of the Bianca for 18mths now, first year using the external water tank and second six months using it plumbed in with a BWT magnesium filter and paired it with a eureka grinder. Love the bianca, it’s been 100% trouble free with consistent operation in both water feed modes. It’s also such a talking piece in my kitchen when visitors see it and I just love the whole morning process of extracting my coffee using what feels like a mini steam engine with the valves and levers, etc! Totally amazing for an engineering geek like me!

[@DS__112]

Which machine did you change to? I'm looking for a great machine for light roasting extraction. Bianca's functional aspect is really good, but it looks like it has a disadvantage because it's an E61 head. I'm not so attracted to Decent yet, is there a good alternative?

[@KrahsThe]

How did you plumb it with the filter? Is that something that you can do yourself? Or did you hire a plumber for this?

[@eikarumba429]

@@KrahsThe I did it myself but it was a pain to find all the right parts! I’d get a plumber next time. Yeah I still love the machine.

[@michaelbarton5169]

Great video and frank review, Kyle. That's a beautiful and capable machine. Gotta love functional art. Also, props for the hoodie. Cheers!

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for watching!

[@PanzerIV88]

Very good video, I just bought a (Lelit Bianca V3) big parts because of your channel, for my mom to replace her (Rocket Mozzafiato Type V) and it is night & day difference! I love that I can go full manual if I want when I go to her house, or I can just program a good "one size fits all" pre-infusion setup through the LLC and let her do her cappuccino without having to do anything too complex. Hey it's already good I got my mom to do the whole puck preparation after 2 years. She does cheat sometime and don't always use the scale or skip the WDT Tool (-_-). At least my GF doesn't skip any of those steps on my R58 hehe, I think she wants me to be proud of her. I agree with you that something high-end manufacturer still don't understand even if it's super obvious and it makes you think they are doing it on purpose... is why the F do they keep building the machine with the worst possible shower and gasket or baskets when it would cost them nearly nothing at wholesale volumes to buy quality IMS Shower even if not Nanotech, IMS Basket and Cafelat Silicone Gasket. It would set the first one wise enough to do it, way ahead of all it's competitor but if it's like if they all spoke to each other and some espresso mafia said not to do it or they will blow up their factory. Anyone with an ounce of brain would replace these things like day 1. I did see that with the V3 version of the Bianca and MaraX, Lelit did partner up with IMS so I was hyped to see we would finaly get quality content but huge disappointment again... yes they give you 2 IMS basket but like the sh*ttiest IMS you could ever find! Like barely any better than the stamped chinese crap from other companies. Then you would think they could at least put a goddamn IMS E61 shower or a 5$ silicon gasket on a 3700-3900$ machine but nope, they had to keep the rubber garbage to save 1$ and the stock shower to save 30$. If you're being that cheap, just ******* raise the cost of the machine of 31$ and include it already!?! As for the LLC while I agree it isn't the most intuitive thing and having to use the "-" button to change menu is a pain in the ass, it is still 20x better than the one from my (Rocket R58 2019) which is the worst POS made by humanity! When you've been 3.5 years on that crap, you aren't allowed to complain with the Bianca V3 lol. I would switch my whole machine for that one anytime. Now sure it's not perfect... why super cheap crappy appliance can have simple stuff like Auto-Start&Shutdown but some 5x more expensive machine can't even do it is beyond me in 2022. Yes we can buy an external power bar but as you said, we shouldn't have to at this price range! At least the power button isn't a 50¢ toggle trash like Rocket use which break after 1-2 year only just from flipping it once or twice a day! Both my R58 and my mom's Rocket had the switch break. Some Bluetooth connectivity with a real good phone app would be pretty cool to if you ain't gonna improve the unintuivive onboard LLC.

[@pvmntlab1233]

Great review! Need that hoodie too!!

[@calvinlam2672]

Love the long term updates. So many review style videos cover a machine for just a few months tops. With this we got to see long term quirks which is awesome. The fact that you had no major issues pushed me to get the Bianca over other machines

[@KyleRowsell]

I’m glad you feel this way! Thanks for watching! I hope to provide more long term updates in the future.

[@zarkozi]

In Europe on 220V, Bianca V3 is up and ready in 10-12 minutes which I was really amazed after hearing a lot about long heat-up times on E61s

[@jbstans]

I bought my Bianca because of one of your old videos and I bloody love it. I was going to stretch for a Decent and then they whacked their prices up by like 30% in between my initial research and actually being able to buy, so started looking around a bit more. I adore my Bianca, it’s been such a fantastic upgrade from the Barista Express that got me going and making coffee with it is an absolute joy.

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah that makes me smile. All the best!

[@user-bdpdfom]

Any regrets after some time has passed? I’m currently trying to decide between these two

[@jbstans]

@@user-bdpdfom None - I love it. I think if the prices are close now, I'd be tempted to spring for the Decent, but that's not to say anything bad about the Bianca, and I think the V3 looks fantastic. Lance Hedrick just reviewed it, and it's an incremental upgrade, but a good one.

[@user-bdpdfom]

@@jbstans I’ve been waiting for his review! Seems like a common theme between him and sprometheus was not being fans of E61 machines but making an exception for the Bianca. Happy to hear there’s no regrets on your end! I think the Bianca still wins in the ritual department, even if the manual flow profiling makes it a little less consistent - but maybe that daily attempt to ‘nail it’ is part of the fun. I go back and forth each day, but I’m also afraid of the rabbit hole the decent would send me down LOL plus the better accessories/tactiles of the bianca with the price difference helps make the decision easier (ask me again in a couple hours though haha) Thanks for the follow up!

[@jbstans]

@@user-bdpdfom No worries - either way you're getting a fantastic machine and I'm sure you'll be delighted! One thing I did learn from Lance's video was that the thermal stability isn't as good as I'd thought so I've significantly upped my boiler temp!

[@tomaszk5687]

I have the same machine and have no problems with the drip tray leaking or rattling. I agree it would be nice to have a some sort of timer to start the machine automatically and be ready when you need it.

[@marylandflyer5670]

That was a very fair review. I must say I would agree that the issues you pointed out that annoy you would be enough to prevent me from considering buying it.

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for the comment!

[@AxisXY]

Hi Kyle, I have had my Bianca for just under a week (I ordered it the day before this video came out). I traded up from a Breville Barista Express and I LOVE IT... Watching this video just confirmed my decision was a good one. The V3 isn't available in the US yet, but because of it, the V2's are discounted by several hundred $$$. I had been looking at the Mara X, but decided to step it up and go for the Bianca. As a side note, I have a Niche Zero on order, but will be waiting till June(ish) for delivery. In the meantime, I hand grind on my Kinu M47.

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for sharing! Enjoy your Bianca

[@LiamGandelsman]

Great video, just came across your channel and really appreciate the content you're putting out. Subscribed!

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah means the world. Thanks for watching!

[@anotherguycalledsmith]

You have a very pleasant way of explaining things, thanks a lot! You won yourself a new subscription ;-) And yes, I am currently waiting for my _ECM Synchronika_ to arrive next week ;-) I like your Lelit as well but always wanted to own an ECM for years. As a total beginner, I will start without this _Float Profile Valve E61_ of ECM that is also available, just because its face does not match the newer style barometer optics newer Sychronikas are coming with. Technically, they are great but I will wait for the newer matching look. I totally agree on bottomless portafilters, would have loved to have one directly from ECM coming with the Synchronika - and the ones included are made of chromed brass, not of polished stainless steel. You see that even companies like ECM _are_ in fact ”cutting corners“ to stay at ”reasonable prices“ even in this high price tier ;-) And they were right because I went right away buying the additional needed stuff as well. Yes, espresso (machines) seem to be some kind of addiction, I am afraid ;-)

[@80Entreri]

Bought my Bianca partly due to your earlier review, and couldn't be more happy a year later. Paired with a P64 I can't see I could get a better setup for "reasonable money". Thanks for good content and advice!

[@KyleRowsell]

Well said. Thanks for the comment!

[@Thrilos30]

Awesome video Kyle! Love your honesty and transparency! (Little dig at WLL haha)

[@gregpamachena4063]

Love the video AND the sweatshirt!

[@DigitalTheologian]

Love the shirt, Kyle!

[@rouport]

Love the vids Kyle, always making me want to spend money I don’t have 💔

[@KyleRowsell]

Sorry! Just trying to help those in the market!

[@meddiscovery2827]

Keep up the good job you doing !

[@KyleRowsell]

I will! Ha

[@udyb]

Nice to see the name on your hoodie. 😉

[@rand9176]

Thanks Kyle. Upgrading my apartamento next year, will very likely be to the Bianca or potentially profitec 700 or rocket r58 with FC added on. I would love to go for a decent but not sure what after market looks like there - servicing / repair etc, read somewhere that you need to ship the machine to Hong Kong for repair if something goes wrong, not sure if that’s the case or not.

[@julioamorim8809]

Great video as always! Any idea when the V3 will be available in Canada?

[@philipporfilio1608]

Great video Kyle! I’d love to hear your opinion or see some content on Rancilio products!

[@KyleRowsell]

Possibly in the future!

[@Richard-uh8oq]

Hi Kyle I bought the Lelit Bianca after watching your videos on the machine ,so a big thank you ,it’s a great machine which you can experiment with using the paddle etc for a different end result . I use the Eureka Specialita grinder and I get a great shot of espresso almost everytime ,so once again a big thank you .

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah that makes me smile!

[@notme123123]

Hey, Kyle. I would love to see some Breville Oracle Touch videos. Maybe some recommended upgrades or brewing hacks/recipes. I’ve been playing around with turbo shots on mine. All the best!

[@KyleRowsell]

Maybe in the future!

[@markmaterum]

So, with that hive roaster on your wall for all to see, when are we getting that official Kyle Rowsell beginner's guide to coffee roasting?

[@terrykrug9254]

Thanks for making this video and your others. I am looking at the Bianca and trying to choose a grinder. Can you recommend some glass double walled cups? Your videos are excellent and very informative.

[@RafaelSwit]

Thanks for the update Kyle! Thoughts on El Rocio V2 Zarre?

[@KyleRowsell]

Cool machine! But I personally don't love how it flow profiles espresso vs the tactile feed of the Bianca.

[@rogphys]

Excellent video! The Bianca V3 is the top contender for my new espresso bar plans. Which machine is going to replace yours?

[@mikecousineau7001]

As always, brilliantly done. Need your help. I need to start a home espresso game. I have spent a few years in the rabbit hole with with V60 and I think now is the time to turn to espresso. I went from a Baratza Encore to a C40 and there is no contest. Question: I’m a few hours West of you. In Canada, if you had $1000 (a little flexible here) what setup would you start with in the home espresso game? Thanks again for all of the knowledge you have passed this way over the last 18 months. You are a legend.

[@RickyKwokMath]

18:25 Lol that shade at Whole Latte Love.

[@KyleRowsell]

No shade! Not about that. 😃 just bringing awareness!

[@septesix]

18:30 love that call-out. It’s sad to see how low some vendor would go.

[@KyleRowsell]

It is

[@bisem433]

I would buy the Lelit if I had known about it 3 years ago. Instead I bought a refurbished Bezzera BZ07. I have thought about selling it and replacing it with the Lelit but when I replaced my Rocky grinder with the Niche I began to really hone my brewing craft and realized one day that I can't even get a better cup of coffee anywhere in Pittsburgh. All my friends are amazed at the coffee I make. The thing I love about the Bezzera is the electrically heated brew head which means a 10 min heat up time in the morning. I still like watching videos about the Lelit and it seems to be about the best bang for your buck out there. The moral of my comment is to make a good quality grinder you first priority and focus on your recipe and technique for crafting a good cup of coffee. Then you will be better able to appreciate a machine like the Lelit Bianca.

[@paul--b]

One thing people hardly every mention is that the Bianca overheats the boiler to warm up the machine faster. It’s fully warmed up in 18 mins.

[@11Toriko11]

Definitely like for the hoodie

[@robertjurcina7055]

I wonder how the Electra Verve compares to the Bianca. I like the flow control ability of the Bianca as I started my brewing of espresso at home with the Flair pro 2 around the start of the pandemic. It’s gone well with the manual machine and if I decided to move to a machine I would like similar control as the manual. The verve has connectivity with an app to control parameters so may be a good option. The Verve is a nice looking machine as well. Anybody familiar with it and how it performs?

[@simeondukov]

MaraX owner here! (thanks to your video about it). Honest opinion is that for the home barista the best bang for buck is buying a MaraX machine and adding the flow control kit to it. Essentialy biancafying your MaraX, because the only difference would be the dual boiler which to be honest is just waaay too big for home usage.

[@KyleRowsell]

Thanks for the thoughts! Definitely a great option.

[@barda7592]

Bought 3 years back. I still love it.

[@johnT5]

Great vid. Super details on highly complicated machine but...me thinking "nice watch" (have two-white and yellow) the entire time. That said - seriously looking into this machine. Thanks.

[@AlejandroPDX]

Legit the best value for prosumer. Flow control, wood accents, NO SINGLE SPOUT PORTAFILTER 🤯 haha even has a rotary pump. Still went with a profitec pro600 but kinda sorta regretting not looking more at Lelit

[@Alpha-Alpha]

I have the ECM Mechanika , I wonder how does it compare to the bianca. Its an excellent machine ! I love the ECM. Please do more comparison video if possible, thanks ! Also more on flow control and profiling. thanks!

[@KyleRowsell]

Hey! View the pinned comment for a flow profile video. Thx for watching!

[@boazwu9304]

Hey Kyle, you mentioned you’ve descaled the machine once so far: did you do that yourself, or did you get it serviced?

[@DeceptionOfTheState]

Hey Kyle, brill vid! Unrelated question... Love that hoodie, where did you get it? :)

[@KyleRowsell]

Art of homage

[@johnwebb220]

Still saving to purchase the Bianca. As you state in the video, it would be great to have a clock to set a warm up time. A real bonus if available in Version four. I hope Breville does not start to mess around with the aesthetics of the Bianca , as it looks great and works well in delivering a great expresso. Thanks for your videos!

[@KyleRowsell]

Glad you agree! Thanks for watching

[@chris9650]

Interesting to see how they go with all the hard and software over time. Have a feeling the don't understand what they have here personally.

[@dlevi67]

@@chris9650 Which, in a month-old acquisition, is probably a fair assessment! My (fairly uninformed) view is that there is actually a potential great fit - keep Lelit as the prosumer "coffee customisation" brand, Breville as the consumer "coffee automation" one, and cross-fertilise technologies (e.g. replace the LCC with a Breville-born interface). Whether it goes that way... we'll see!

[@chris9650]

@@dlevi67 I hope it will but I somehow think there will be corners cut to maximise profit sadly. I'm into levers and when I look at what hit Smeg have on their hands with la Pavoni and how little they have done the challenge the relatively simple fixes in their machines re temp stability and they haven't just shows how little they understand the product and market. Hopefully I'm wrong on this one though.

[@dlevi67]

@@chris9650 Hopefully you are, indeed. And profit could be maximised by eliminating some of the "more overlapping" lines like Anna/Elizabeth (or their equivalent for Sage/Breville - I'm not sure which ones are 'better') and increasing volumes using e.g. Breville's much greater distribution network. I live in hope. Since you are a lever enthusiast - mind if I ask you for an opinion? What do you think of the ACS Evo Leva? I am seriously considering it, but the world seems to be divided into those that have built it (and very good people they are, just a bit "vested"), and those that don't know it (yet?). Or would you rather - for about the same price - go for a Cremina?

Great video! I've been looking into getting the VBM Domobar Super Digital, for its dual boiler and profiling capabilities, but not much material exists on this machine. I would love for you to give it a go.

[@KyleRowsell]

Thank you! And I’d love to one day!

[@AndyS2K76]

I have a bianca. no regreat. amazing shot, amazing cappuccino. no problem in 6 months of ownership

[@KyleRowsell]

Glad to hear it!

[@djk12587]

I believe the machine overheats the brew water because in the US, boilers have to heat up 1 at a time. So, the brew boiler over heats then shuts off while the steam boiler heats up. Since the brew boiler overheated, it will cool down to brewing temperature while the steam boiler gets to temp.

[@KyleRowsell]

Yep. But this is an intentional design to hear the e61 faster.

[@teresakiker2719]

Bianca is Bae! I love mine. You influenced me to purchase it.

[@KyleRowsell]

Ah love to hear it!

[@arianyazdannik968]

Bianca is bae eh?😂😂 Great video Kyle. I see this machine as one of my possible destinations. It's great to know insights of someone who had it for couple of years.

[@Assenayo]

For a dual boiler with flow profile it's totally worth it. Personally for me it's not, I'm still firmly a lever guy. I have a Flair Pro 2, a Flair 58 and am eyeing off a La Pavoni Esperto

[@tonycee1144]

loved molto bene good luck kyle

[@RobertsonDCCD]

I just had my one year anniversary with Bianca, and your experience when I was comparison shopping was a big part of my choice. My experience with her has been similar to yours, with the same likes and dislikes, and the pros far outweighing the cons. I still think it is the class of the field in the $3K range, but I would ask you if machines like the Profitec 700 and ECM Synchronika, when modified with flow control, perform at the level of the Bianca. Will there be an upgrade for me someday? Probably, but for now I am focusing on upgrading my grinder and building my own skills. Thanks for the great review!

[@KyleRowsell]

So glad you agree. I’d upgrading I’d look to something outside of the E61 group head class but the Bianca is a machine that really isn’t needed to be upgraded from.

[@RobertsonDCCD]

@@KyleRowsell Agree, Kyle! Having a Bianca is like having a BMW with a manual transmission-well engineered, does everything well, and a joy to operate. Technology is slowly moving beyond the E61, much like 6-speed manuals are now replaced with computerized automatics that can do the job faster and easier. If the Decent ever gets a rotary pump, I may be enticed, but for now the Lelit owns my heart.

[@tommihommi1]

What's funny is that in a certain sense, the Breville Dual Boiler is *more* of a prosumer machine than the Bianca, with sub 5 minute heat up time for the espresso and thermal stability that is in the same class as the highest end saturated group machines. This technology in a body that isn't an eyesore and isn't twice as big as it could be because it's recycled from the Oracle Touch could sweep up a lot of the espresso market.

[@KyleRowsell]

Hey thanks for watching! While I agree the BDB is amazing, Features don’t truly classify prosumer. And while the BDB is great, it lacks the build quality of a commercial product using metal parts and commercial pumps. Doesn’t mean I don’t love the BDB. But it’s not classified as prosumer 😄

[@Killand8]

A feature set is not what defines a prosumer products. I think the easiest way is to look at warranty. Lelit products warranty is 2 years for consumers and 6 months for non-domestic usage. So it's suitable for both professional usage and consumer usage. Breville warranty doesn't cover commercial usage. The warranty is an easy way to try to assess the duty cycle of the parts and robustness.

[@matthewmuscat5566]

Hello very nice video very interesting tips thanks alot may i ask why you dobt like single spout portafilter ?

[@flitcroftLA]

Bianca is bae. Mine just arrived and I'm planning to set it up tomorrow morning. I went with the V2 -- the new features seemed redundant and not worth potentially +$600-800 over today's V2 price.

[@mikevogell7488]

Kyle , I’m just getting my feet wet with the high end espresso culture. Would you spend more money on a grinder or an espresso machine? Thanks for the videos, I guess I’ll have to wait to see what you get before buying anything. Hopefully you will let us know soon so I can do some more research

[@hassanalhalal9564]

I have brevilie barista pro now and i am thinking about upgrading to bianca, your videos helped alot, you have any advise or any other suggestions to consider before buying this machine 🌚?

[@ritaweygint4038]

I watched this complete review, even though I would probably never chose to own the Bianca. I don’t care for milk drinks, and space is limited! I like the idea of ECM Puristica as an upgrade to my Gaggia (IF I upgrade…!).

[@arnoldschwarzenecker5819]

I have my appartamento for a year now and I m gonna upgrade to a dual boiler in the future. But so many machines have wonderful capabilities: lelit bianca, rocket r nine one, La marzocco gs3 and yet the synesso es1. Will be a Hard descision:)

[@woosha10]

Great machine the Appartmento. I’ve had mine for just on 3 years .

[@paul--b]

Yeah that is a tough decision if you have a big budget. An easy one if you don’t.

[@scnk]

Any tips on finding upcoming and anticipated coffee gear/gadgets? I feel like I hear the term “much anticipated,” but I had no clue something was on the way out(DF64, Lagom, etc.).

[@SherlockChromesSFY]

Greta video. Lelit Bianca is still on my list as my next espresso machine. I’m worried about the Breville acquisition as well. I saw a photo shared on FB about the Breville Lance Hendrix Dual Boiler which has a complete flow control paddle. Will that end manufacturing the Bianca? Time will tell. What do you think? I better buy my version 3 asap.

[@KyleRowsell]

That machine isn’t made by lelit. But does look cool! I believe it’s solely made by Breville

[@multioptipupiloptomy]

Auto timer: I have a 20USD smart power point/socket. By that I can integrate my machine into my smart home. Have my Bianca use geofencing... whenever I am in 30mins away from home, in a certain time frame - Bianca switches on :) (I would not like to see a bulky solution of this from a company that makes excellent espresso machines. that would end up in LCC kind of solution;) ) I am a happy owner of a V1 upgraded with V2 LCC, all I keep upgrading is my grinder. Bianca is really a sweet spot for most of the enthusiasts! (IMHO) thanks for the vid!

[@KyleRowsell]

Well said! And great thoughts here!

[@paul--b]

Yeah exactly! Better to keep the systems separate and leave it to the specialists. You can then upgrade either system when appropriate.

[@nkermit1]

Bianca is bae - love mine! I share your frustrations with the drip tray... It's just... it could be better. Mine did come with two steam tips, a 2 hole and 4 hole, did yours only come with one? It deffo makes delicious coffee!

[@refusedchaos]

Hi Kyle great video, this pretty much confirms what I’ve heard in regards to build quality. If you are going to spend so much money, I’d rather save up a little more and get the Synchronika.

[@DS__112]

In fact, synchronika is only superior to E61 machines with different appearances and finishes. Bianca & Crem-one are better in terms of functionality in extraction

[@KyleRowsell]

To each their own!

[@refusedchaos]

@@DS__112 flow profiling is possible on the ECM, if you are spending £1900 on a machine you expect something to stand the test of time and not have a poor finish.

[@paul--b]

Flow profiling usability on the Synchronika is poor.

[@hussainmahmoud7881]

@@paul--b why? I am thinking of Synchronica because of build quality but keen to have a proper flow control

[@mattodrums]

would you recommend dialing the Bianca down to 9 bars of pressure from Lelit standard 10? I thought I saw that in one of your videos but can’t find it. Thanks again for your great videos. Bianca is Bae.

[@terrykrug9254]

Just ordered a Lelit Bianca V3.

[@0whitestone]

It seems crazy that a $3,200 machine is a good budget option

[@tobiassteinmann5384]

Funny, that my experience with the Bianca - and I still would buy it. I actually don't try to follow updates so I don't want to have them :D But for me, what I currently have is perfect. Ah and can you maybe link the add-ons you bought?

[@tommos1]

Hi, I heard that you are doing a review of the Belleza Bellona. Do you have any ETA one when that one will be out? I'm currently hunting for an upgrade from my old Breville and the Bellona looked like a good prospect. Thanks.

[@chris9650]

Anyone else wonder if Java Jim is going to do a reply to the criticisms of the machine in this video 😛

[@KellyanneGill]

Hi Kyle, just wondering if you could do a review on the LA PAVONI BOTTICELLI EVOLUZIONE PID, as I'm getting this machine next week

[@trojanhman8136]

I am just looking at espresso machines now. When I saw they were Breville owned, I moved on. Your descriptions of the manufacturing issues confirms my concerns. I came across ECM and Profitec and heard nothing but positive comments about the build quality. The price of the top ECM and this Breville is the same here in Australia, so for me Breville just doesn't get a look in.

[@jayknudsen149]

You said it, prosumer vs home consumer. Breville wants to expand its market share. Many of us start with Breville and move on to more than expensive and complicated equipment over time.

[@KyleRowsell]

I think you hit the nail on the head. But time will tell

[@nakulgandhi95]

Besides looks, do you think ECM Synchronika and Profitec Pro 700 are superior? It seems like they have better build quality and more power

[@jt22420]

Any tips on pulling shots and steaming milk simultaneously? Given that there are not any volumetric controls, how do you time both of them if you wanted to do them at the same time?

[@ozpain1]

Oooh shots fired at WWL haha!! Love the video. Amazing content as always. Thank you! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@KyleRowsell]

No shots. I love their stuff. Just felt that this should be expressed so that people are aware. 😄

[@charlieg3743]

Hi, I was between Pro 600 with flow control and this machine since they were similar price due to v2 sale. I decided to buy bianca and i hope i will not regret to not buy Pro 600 due to built quality. Do you also have a video to show the necessary updated you did to Bianca? I am ex-gaggia classic pro user and i love those what to upgrade videos…

[@apexcapital1328]

Breville is coming out with a commercial quality espresso machine, you should hear something about it at the end of this year.

[@DS__112]

Is this true? What will be the price range, the key components and the performance? Should they use saturation groups or e61 heads??

[@apexcapital1328]

@@DS__112 Their engineers are still testing components, and depending on availability of parts.

[@fubardad8892]

@Kyle Rowsell One question I have is what type of machine would you recommend a new person but my budget is prosumer since I know I will be doing lattes daily?

[@ukaszbarszczak3202]

Hy Kyle! With coffee grinder do You recommend to this coffee machine? It would be nice, if You help me! Thank You for the answer. Take care

[@trisshinjji]

Hey Kyle, for the issue with the coffee water in the drip tray, I've recently started using a puck screen with my Bianca found using it has removed 99% of any sort of coffee grinds when flushing the group head. My IMS shower screen is just super clean. Thus making the water the drip tray not that gross if it does, inevitably, leak for you. ;)

[@mikkelguy]

Bianca v3 vs profitec pro 600 (devils edition) can get them for pretty much the same price. the devil edition is nice with the joysticks etc

[@phonsitj9741]

Hi as a Bianca owner i loveee this machine. By the way where to get the rubber in the drip i lost that rubber ^^

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Which precision basket and shower screen are you using? Couldn’t find any links in the description.

[@locke1402]

I would like to second the wishes for auto-on timer built in. This doesn’t seem like a difficult feature to implement. But many mornings I just don’t have 25 minutes to wait around on a machine to heat up. Is that available on any of the pro-sumer level machines?

[@vale_ol]

Hi, I recently also lost a rubber damper on the drip tray. Where did you get replacement dampers? I tried finding them online but was unsuccessful so far.

[@markdoyle4718]

Kyle what is your opinion on the Profitec Pro 600?

[@erythuria]

You could use a timer between the power outlet and the plug, no?

[@theodorechan8665]

did you keep your oracle? How do you llike the bianca vs the oracle and what do you get from the lelit that you don't with the breville?