Let's Talk About "Male Tears" (Manly Monday)

[@markstriker925]

6:25 that's just another example of schrodinger' masculinity in society. Where men are expected to be both emotionaly expressive and stoic. And this always depends on the woman feelings at the time. Men are expected to be both traditionally masculine and liberal.

[@edmundscycles1]

In wales men cry a lot. Its not looked down on. If its happy crying , sad or what ever. Men will cry over a rugby team winning , a meal or when singing. You wont find a dry eye while singing in the mellenuim stadium. So much of this is US centric . Maybe the US could learn from other societies?

[@katetoldness4220]

It almost seems like, when it comes to diffrent facets of childish behavior and what men and women can get away with, men get away with more childish actions (e.g. We've Seen your Boobs Song) but women get away with more childish reactions (tears, playing the victim, shaming). I think it's because men have more license to "act" overall and that can include acting childishly. But women are viewed as more acted upon and our actions justified as reactions to something external. In currrent public discourse we are still far more likely to buy a "But I had to" or "he made me" from a woman.

[@BetterWithBob]

Funnily enough this morning I got a memory from a few years ago of my mother lecturing me that I'm "too nice" because I didn't go apeshit on a friend who stood me up. The friend slept in because he was working exhaustive hours in retail to pay his university fees while also trying to earn a degree. Me and him are still friends to this day, and he apologised and made up for it

[@TheArceusftw]

The whole thing about "male tears" just seems one big "gotcha" for the militant feminists. The whole "Men should open up and not be afraid of showing vulnerability" while at the same going "Men are so pathetic, and shouldn't treat their partners like glorified therapists to cry on because Women already have alot on their plate" is just one of those things that make me go "which one is it then?!" All it is is just the trappings of the Man box, just with a few extra steps. And for what? To prove a point about male entitlement? That just seems really reductive to dismiss the problems of an individual just because of some archaic social expectations. I get it, that there are people who put on this groveling facade, and use trauma dumping and performative vunerability to excuse toxic behaviors. The whole "I was abused as a kid, so I get a get out of jail free card to act like the worse person ever, and if someone calls me out on it, I can just accuse them of bullying a trauma survivor" mentality that I've seen time and time again. At the same time, using that as an endictment towards people who are legitimately struggling and just going "Whatever, just suck it up loser" is really reductive and damaging. As for the whole "Toxic partner who expects their significant other to fight their battles for them", that seems like the aspect of toxic, abusive manipulative behavior that goes absolutetly underdiscussed when it comes to red flags to spot in a toxic relationship. Likewise I would love to see you go in depth of with the subject of "immature behavior expected in men vs women", because that's the big thing that's been bothering me about modern feminism. It's the paradox of "Women don't need men to swoop in and save the day like Underdog 24/7, we can handle ourselves" while at the same time going "Women need good men(AKA the White Knights) to come in and protect us from the dangers of the world." All it does it just makes me think that the militant feminists are okay with infanitlization when it benifits them.

[@maxpayne232]

Agree. You gave some very good examples of the hypocritical aspect of feminism that so many feminists vehemently refuse to admit to. But men see through all that stuff right away. At some point feminists will have to admit that they don't want equality. They want selective equality. They want more women in the type of jobs everyone would like to have. But coal miners, deep sea fishing, smoke jumpers ? When it comes to the more dangerous jobs they go "You can have that one". And since it's slowly but surely becoming undeniable now that men are struggling in various ways (mental health, economically) what do they do ? They just blame it on the men themselves. Like I said, it's disingenuous. When women are struggling it's always societys fault. When men are struggling it's without a doubt their own fault. Personally I could never in good conscience call myself a feminist. Sry.

[@edmundolastra3279]

I think it's wonderful advice to take a moment to sit with things and "come back to baseline". Certainly takes a lot of practice to put that into action. Thanks Liana, I hope you are doing ok 👍

[@johanandersson8252]

Are feelings gay

[@skzip888]

If they were, it would be a lot easier for me to pick up guys.

[@maxpayne232]

Gay as in " Dude, your dads car is so gay" ?

[@winterburden]

Happy Monday!

[@Tnu1138]

I didn't see the thumbnail.

[@BLOODREDGENERALWUKONG]

Please understand the nuance, you are like my favorite person, I'm askin you to distance yourself from this left horseshit because they're hurting me and that makes you the enemy, im not your boss or your mom, you don't have to, and you won't, but that's what it is, I'll still listen and try to be a friend.😢

[@VagabondTE]

Constructive criticism: The examples in this video were too vague. I know why it's vague. You're trying to protect the parties involved. But in this particular case the examples were too numerous and too personal to get the point across while maintaining anonymity. I haven't watched the last couple of weeks and stepping into the situation with this video it was just way too confusing with how many times this person was with that person was talking about that person but with that person for a thing, about a thing, about a thing.

[@RedLianaK]

Constructive feedback. This isn't a drama channel. This is about men's issues. Absorb the greater point.

[@VagabondTE]

@@RedLianaK That was the problem. I'm having trouble following the greater point. I'm not concerned with what happened to who.