Lethal Gaming Gear Saturn Mouse Pad Review + Artisan Zero Comparison

[@hausgaming]

Great review! I enjoyed listening to this, keep it up and maybe add some more gameplay footage in the future! 💪

[@GITOPER]

Yes, its ture, that should let people know more intuitive feeling

[@adelefanclub7306]

I randomly was in a valorant DM with you like a few days ago and some asked if you did reviews and then I saw your name looking this pad up, you’re very thorough. Well done

[@user-xi9ft6zx7w]

That was me

[@rainreap2614]

Lol

[@SquidGains]

Great detailed review. I just got my Saturn and the value is pretty unreal

[@happylittletrees8130]

Krafty described a jerky feeling to the pad. Do you feel it? Have you been able to get used to it?

[@TuMuchTa1ent1]

The details on your reviews are the best. Really enjoy, great review.

[@sixxtylol]

Great review. I really appreciate how you take the extra step to explain things more thoroughly

[@ColossaI]

as a zero enjoyer you have convinced me to get this pad, love the video m8 :^}

[@xlReap64]

@PeytonColeAkaBobbyTrillwhich one you like more? Also you got soft or xsoft?

[@xlReap64]

@PeytonColeAkaBobbyTrill Hey sorry for the late reply, haha got it bro thanks a lot

[@KAY0DE]

@PeytonColeAkaBobbyTrill do you both have soft on zero and saturn, and are you still switching between them?

[@verorreviewssomething8291]

Gosh super indepth review! Amazing how you can keep talking for 16 mins straight. That's impressive and thanks to you i have decided to get this mouse pad.

[@aaroncamren691]

The LGG Saturn combined with Tiger Ice skates is heaven on my GPX Superlight. Fast but controllable, it's hard to explain.

[@__vha]

Purchased this even though I own a Zero, looking forward to it.

[@Khal1d]

How does it compare?

[@HaasArrest]

Great review. Had some good info that I hadn't heard from other reviewers.

[@Gaptiste]

I ordered this and the venus, i'm new to PC gaming and I haven't found a pad I really love yet. Hated the Game Sense Radar, GP4, and Aqua Control II. Currently switching back and forth between Aqua Control + White and Razer Strider for Valorant and Apex. Problem is I love the speed and my tracking is insane on these pads and it's easy to line up headshots but they don't give as much control as I'd like. But I tried controlled like the GP4, Radar, GSR and the stopping power made for great flicks but my tracking suffered badly. I used the Hyper X fury S my first 8 months on mouse and keyboard never gave a thought to my mouse pad and my aim has been inconsistent since I gave it away and been experimenting. Hoping either this or the venus end up becoming my end game if not i'm at a lost.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Keep experimenting and you'll find something that'll work out in due time, just be sure to give each pad enough time to properly learn the surface and make sure that you keep yourself and not the pad accountable for your deficiencies in mechanical ability. I think the Saturn could do you well. It's my top recommendation for a balanced control pad and I feel that it could offer you both of what you like about speed and control pads, all in one package. The Venus sounds super cool, too, and I can't wait for mine to ship. If neither of those pads work, I would also recommend you to try out the Zero. It's expensive but still a good value because the quality is unmatched and the performance is still so hard to beat.

[@Gaptiste]

@@KraftyCraftKraf I was gonna look into the Zeror next, though the Saturn and Venus both sound perfect for me. Both the Saturn and Zero were recommended by someone on reddit for people coming from the Hyper Fury S so i'm hyped.

[@tomhertz7976]

If you feel inconsistent you should work on your mouse control. Pads don’t really make a huge difference, personal preference only

[@bespoke555]

Saturn looking to be an incredible pad! How does it compare to my XTEN Control?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The lack of texture on the Saturn makes it feel quite different from the XTen. Its surface feel is far more zero-esque because of this. You get much less feedback and lose some of that responsive feel you get on the XTen, plus it makes the pad feel smoother and more glidy despite having a little more dynamic friction. Where I end up liking the XTen more is that it feels a little more uniform when making small movements. The static friction is pretty similar, but the XTen doesn't have that weird smoothed out feel and quick acceleration that I was talking about on these motions so I feel that I can be more consistent on that pad.

[@SenzVtuber]

Would you say this is better than the Zero? I currently am running it and am not 100% sure if I want this to be my endgame pad. I do well on it, but I always have my doubts. I mostly use very light mice and am looking for an endgame pad, would you recommend any pads if not the Saturn or zero to really try out?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The zero is higher quality for sure. The actual surfaces are a little different and both are every good, so the choice between them is all personal preference. If you want a surface with slightly higher dynamic friction and a smoother feel, the Saturn will be better for you. The Saturn is my top recommendation for a control pad, but the PA is also pretty solid if you want a slower experience.

[@joaopimentel7004]

How does it compare to the Odin Eclipse ? As someone that only plays CS:GO and Valorant, which would you recomend ?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The Eclipse has more friction all around so it'll feel slower overall. Dynamic movements have some more resistance to them on the Eclipse, but the difference in stopping power is not as great as the difference in glide because the Saturn's slight abrasiveness gives it more stopping power than its glide speed would suggest. Where the Eclipse starts to feel much slower than the Saturn is in smaller movements. The Eclipse has much more resistance on inner hand motions and will feel more locked in and stable in comparison to the Saturn. The Eclipse is also much smoother as well and has a better arm feel. As for the choice between these two pads for tac shooters, it's not clear cut and depends on what you want out of your pad. The Eclipse's higher resistance on small movements will allow you to feel more locked in so you will be more stable when holding an angle or placing your crosshair on a peek. It will also reduce some jitters that you may have in tense situations and make your transitions between different angles while clearing the map much smoother. In comparison, the Saturn will feel faster and more consistent on small correction movements. It'll be easier to make a quick adjustment when your crosshair placement is off or control recoil. The ability to snap around faster but still get a stable stop on the Saturn will also make entrying a little easier in chaotic situations. I think that both pads are viable options and the choice between the two depends on what your personal preferences are and what type of experience you want out of a pad.

[@joaopimentel7004]

@@KraftyCraftKraf Thank you for your awesome response. From what you describe, and from my history of preferences in mousepads, i definitely feel like the Odin Eclipse is what i search for. So again, thanks alot, and continue with your awesome reviews, the way you describe and review products its one of the best in youtube in my opinion.

[@davidddo]

I got the xtrfy gp4 and it was so bad and destroyed my mouse feet so much that i quit gaming for 7 months. Going to get this mousepad today or tomorrow, thanks for the review

[@shindigira]

Thank you so much for the very, very technical explanations. You kind of went quick but I got the point that it has high enough dynamic friction while having low enough static friction. Do you think glass feet combined with this pad is a very good combo?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Idk I’ve never tried glass feet before. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be fine though.

[@maxmetalcorre]

Great review!

[@GITOPER]

GITOPER G2 control mouse pad will coming

[@emichyy]

great video m8

[@BlindBison]

Great review mate, which of the new LGG pads is your favorite? I know you mentioned preferring a bit more texture so did you end liking the Venus or Jupiter more? Thanks,

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

This is easily my favorite out of the lgg pads. I would still prefer some more texture but using glass feet and smooth pads recently has helped me appreciate surfaces like these more. The Venus is still very good, just not my general preference so it’s not a favorite of mine. The Jupiter is actually too smooth and glossy feeling for me to enjoy using it so far but I’ll need to out more time on it to pass a proper judgement.

[@BlindBison]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thanks that’s great to know

[@jnsnlam]

This is besides the point of the review (which is great btw) but do you happen to have the crosshair code for the crosshair from the valorant dm clips? I love the firing error setting you’re using

[@luc1.1]

I play valorant with low sens using a orochi v2 with stock skates, i’m moving from a mp510 which control mousepad would you recommend for me?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The Saturn is the no-brainer recommendation. It's surface is super balanced and the quality is insane for the price. You should have all of the control you need for tac shooters but it'll still avoid feeling slow and allow you to make quick corrections. The Eclipse and PA are still good options, though, just with more specific niches. The Eclipse will feel the slowest of the bunch and have the most friction on all motions. You'll feel super locked in and it'll give your aim a feeling of deliberacy but at the cost of being a little sluggish at times. The PA still feels locked in on small motions but it allows you to breathe a little on larger swipes as it picks up speed.

[@Divinity_vA]

Re-watching this video months later makes me wonder if the changes to the *New logo* Zero e.g. being smoother is Artisan's way to mimic the highly praised Saturn. Tho, it caught many off-guard since the changes to the Otsu were made open with the knowledge of the buyer, also rebranding it as V2 while the Zero changes were pretty much under the table.

[@robertofs98]

I would love to get this pad or the Zero but since I’m from europe they’re really hard to get (atm they’re sold out plus I’d be paying twice the price for shipping) so I’m gonna skip them. I have had a qck heavy for the longest time, I only play csgo (to a decently high level) and despite my sens being slightly under average my aim is a bit shaky at times, especially in tense situations. The past few days I’ve been studying my options and I’ve narrowed it down to the Xtrfy GP4, Odin Eclipse and Fnatic Focus 3. They’re all fairly similar according to the reviews I’ve watched/read and have decently high quality for a reasonable price so my question is, which one do you think would suit me best? Thank you for the detailed reviews, your channel is amazing!

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Ty for the support! I would recommend the Eclipse. It should feel faster than your qck and allow you to correct your aim easier when you don't have that muddiness. I don't think it would immediately with the shakiness because the lower friction will make your inconsistencies translate into cursor movement more. Although, it could help with long-term improvement by forcing you to have better mouse control and work out your inconsistencies manually.

[@FlipsMG]

Have you tried the Corepad CTRL skates on this pad for maybe more precise microadjustments?

[@felix_1887]

hi great vid. Would you recommend this pad if i mainly play fortnite and a bit of valorant? I'm getting a bit bored of my glorious 3xl. Have you tried the glorious before and compare it to the saturn? I also thought about the aqua control 2. do you think this would be a better choice for my games?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

hey thanks I would certainly recommend this pad for the games you play. It is very versatile and you should be able to adapt to it pretty well. I have not tried the glorious pad but I have experiences with similar surfaces. The saturn should feel significantly faster but still very controled if you put in the time to learn it. It still has some dynamic friction for that'll give you needed stopping power but the static friction is much lower so it won't have that sticky feeling the glorius will get. The aqua control two is a good bit faster than the Saturn and will feel like a complete speed pad in comparison to the glorious. It has a textured surface that gives you feedback when you move your mouse so it won't feel completely uncontrollable and slippery. You will have to manually control your mouse instead of relying on your pads friction to aim so the learning curve will be significant. You should go for this pad if you want a complete departure from what you've experienced, are willing to learn something new, and you like how a textured surface sounds.

[@Maxiscool69420]

Hey, great review! do you know how this would compare to a Fnatic focus 3, or if you have never tried it, just a rough estimate? They seem pretty similar in glide speed, but I was thinking of going for the Saturn because of the better quality (even though it's more expensive, but that doesn't really bother me.) What are your thoughts?

[@pazosramon4230]

Hey buddy great review, if I like the zero soft and want a pad with similar dynamic friction but a bit more static friction which one would you recommend? I wanted the saturn but it seems to have less static friction but I heard the venus has more higher static friction compared to the saturn

[@rakib5233]

Hi which lgg pad would you recommend for a low sensitivity valorant player[saturn/venus]? The aqua control plus white is a bit too slippery for me and I felt like it's harder for micro adjustment and small flicks. I liked the razer gigantus but it's affected by the humidity a lot. Thanks!

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I haven't tried the venus yet, the preorders are still slowly shipping out, but the saturn should feel really good for what you mentioned. It'll have more friction than an ac+ that can help to remove some of that slippery feeling that you are talking about but it lacks the static friction that impedes your ability to make small movements. It seems quite humidity-resistant as well. I feel you can't really go wrong with the saturn, but if you can wait a bit I'll be covering the venus along with the rest of their lineup so you can have a better idea of which would work the best for you personally.

[@rakib5233]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you so much for this elaborate reply. I'll definitely wait for your review. Subbed.

[@tsumday]

Great video, watched both vaxee pa. I'm currently on the gamesense radar and I play valorant for fps. I used to use gsr with stock zowie feet but now I'm using gpx stock. I was wondering what your opinion: Saturn, Venus or Vaxee PA? I find myself microsdjusting but that's due to overflicking. Ty.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I think the Saturn could help with overflicks because it does have a good amount of friction on dynamic movements that could do well to reign you in. It'll also feel pretty different than your radar so it can offer a new experience that may feel better for you.

[@tsumday]

@@KraftyCraftKraf sorry I meant overflicking on small movements.

[@Divinity_vA]

Any plans to review Pulsar mousepad line and also Roccats new Sense series? For a "generic" cloth recommendation , Sense Core set the bar pretty high within it's budget. It's basically a better Gigantus v2 at 12€ for 450x450 square. Pro is basically smooth MPC450 , little less dynamic friction and slicker.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The sense line looks kinda cool but I've heard they have some issues with build quality and I'm not that interested in the surfaces. I'll probably try them out eventually, but there are other pads I'm more interested in right now. I didn't realize that the pulsar pads were available yet in the US. For a while there the US launch was delayed and I forgot to check back in. They are super cheap so it could be cool to check them out as a budget option. Not many people have talked about either pad lineup so I should get to trying them both eventually.

[@Divinity_vA]

@@KraftyCraftKraf Yes , indeed. Also , you're pretty much the only reviewer who can engage the viewer to listen about a piece of cloth for 15min. Just the way you talk about it and how in-depth you dive. It'd be great to hear your thoughts on these lesser known mousepads.

[@RogueFPS]

Is the saturn closer to the Zero soft or Zero Mid? I'm looking for something like a zero mid. Which i may pick up soon. but wouldn't mind trying the saturn first if its close to the Zero MID..

[@6FootVampire]

I bought the 1 Meter version, will cut it in half so ive got 1 extra when the first one wear down

[@mrsYnTTaX]

Have you tried the razer strider? is the lgg saturn as fast as the strider? or is the strider faster? I haven't decided which one of them I'm gonna buy yet, but I like the durability of the razer strider. Also, is this lgg Saturn water resistant? Ty in advance, I'm actually glad I discovered ur channel. +1 sub

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The Strider will feel much faster than the Saturn and have less friction in every regard. The Strider is more of a speed pad while the Saturn is a balanced control pad. It isn't the most water resistant because moisture will sink into the surface so you can't really spill stuff on it, but weather conditions doesn't affect the surface at all and it'll feel very consistent.

[@tmifb9926]

Which of the two would you say is closer to GSR? I guess in terms of stopping power/dynamic friction/static friction etc?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Of the zero and Saturn, neither are close to the GSR. To get a pad similar to that you would need to go to a pad like the gpz1 or Jupiter.

[@jomarimahilum9767]

how can you compare this to hien, cause im planning to try out some contro pads cause I feel like my aim in my hien feels so jittery ang shaky. and also how can you compare this to hayate otsu and venus. those are my choices of buying

[@Zetzinho.]

Hey I know this is late but how do you think this compares to the aqua control plus? Thinking abt going for a new pad and this looks perfect but I wanna be sure

[@harryw3188]

is this resistant to humidity ? (waterproof?) and is it on the fast end for a control pad?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

It isn't quite waterproof because the weave is loose and water sinks into the surface easily. However, it doesn't actually affect the glide because the threads don't soak the water up and it feels like moisture passes around them instead. It's been cool and dry where I live so it's been hard to test for natural humidity resistance, but I never noticed sweat affecting the surface feel and it always seemed highly consistent. It's a little hard to judge the relative speed of a pad like this because of how different people will perceive the surface properties and think if it feels fast or slow overall. The dynamic friction is a hair lower than some of the typical control pads like the Radar, gsr-se/PA, Fury, etc. so it'll feel slightly slower than those pads on larger motions but still quite similar. However, small movements on the Saturn will have less resistance than those types of pads so it may seem like the pad is a good bit faster than most depending on if these small movements are how you personally judge the speed of a pad. If you compare it to a fully controlled mud pad like the gsr or Equate, it'll feel much faster in every regard.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The abrasiveness will add some friction to your arm so it won't glide across as easily as a smoother, weather-resistant pad, but I haven't noticed any stickiness personally. I think you should be fine in that regard.

[@skolatti]

@@KraftyCraftKraf "The dynamic friction is a hair lower than some of the typical control pads.... so it'll feel slightly slower than those pads on larger motions" this part didn't make sense to me Did you mean to say that dynamic friction is higher than control pads so it'll feel slightly slower or dynamic friction is lower than control pads so it'll feel slightly faster? I'm going to guess you meant to same dynamic friction is slightly lower so it'll be faster because that makes the most sense.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I completely misspoke, good catch. I meant to say that the friction is a little bit higher so it'll feel slightly slower than those pads on large motions. The Saturn is a little weird because the faster you move your mouse on very large motions the more friction you feel due to the slight abrasiveness. On those other pads I mentioned, when you get your mouse moving you feel the resistance lessening and it seems like it speeds up a little bit, the opposite of the Saturn. I would still say that the Saturn feels faster than those control pads overall due to the difference in resistance on small motions being much greater than the slight difference you'll feel on large swipes.

[@skolatti]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thx for the clarification and also i hope u dont see the misspoken part as a petty thing bc i genuinely watch and listen to ur vids to get an accurate idea if the market is bringing in anything newer or better than my artisan zero for Val. Fantastic review tho. Love how you mentioned that the pad had an interesting speed curve after overcoming the static friction. That specific detail is dauntung and i think thats smth i want to avoid. I belive a more linear transition from static to dynamic friction will suit my valorant needs more since im on the zero

[@SohGee]

How would you compare this to the GSR in terms of control?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The G-SR has far more friction all around and feels much more controlled. Small movements especially will feel a lot quicker and far less locked in on the Saturn. You still feel like you have a lot of control on the Saturn, but it just isn't comparable to something as slow as the G-SR still.

[@abdulahsan3121]

venus is very great, and doesn't have some of the issues u had with this pad, what's your main pad btw?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The venus does look super interesting. I'll be trying it out along with the rest of their lineup at launch but I'm particularly interested in that surface. I currently main the XTen control. I'm pretty sure it's my endgame pad. It so perfectly matches my preferences its crazy.

[@EMERG3]

Have you ever used a gamesense radar? Trying to pick between the two pads

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah I've used the radar a pretty good amount and it's a pad I've consistently enjoyed. Its a great cloth pad that feels pretty solid and offers you that typical controlled feel, but still picks up some speed on larger motions to help it feel balanced. In this way, it feels a lot like the PA, just with a glide that has slightly less resistance on larger motions and feels a little faster plus less of the stickiness that you sometimes feel on the PA. The Saturn would still be what I'd most recommend because of how balanced it is. It's a great example of a jack of all trades pad that still feels high performance and doesn't sacrifice much to help it feel balanced. However, it doesn't have that standard cloth pad feel of the Radar and it will seem more exotic, so you might like the more familiar feel of Radar's surface. I do still feel that the Saturn would be worth it to get used to and the surface is very high performing.

[@Rafen317]

How does this compare to a G-SR-SE?

[@Version-ru1mj]

LGG Saturn is such a good pad, a few Valorant pros ( actually good players, not the low tier players ) are using the saturn / saturn pro. So should you pay 60-70-80$ for Artisan or you can just pay 30-40$ for a Saturn and get on with it. Your call. I have both, I click my heads with both equally. I would actually do it all over again and go with the Saturn and invest the money elsewhere, like a better mouse or whatever you need at the moment.

[@duckiiee4416]

I might have missed it, buy what softness did you have on your zero?

[@lt3vicente]

I have used the GSR-SE for about 3 years, and I need the change because the pad is very bad after such a long time. I tried the gp4 and really couldn't get used to it. My question now is which one to go, Eclipse, Radar or Saturn (I have the Saturn as the last option because it is in pre-sale and it would take a long time to arrive in Chile) and I do not put the Vaxee PA as an option because they do not have shipping to Chile ;(. I hope I have explained well :o Just add that I only play Valorant and csgo.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The Saturn is my top recommendation but I really like the Eclipse as well. Its a super solid pad that feels very controlled and high friction, but without a lot of the muddiness you experience on slow cloth pads like the worn out gsr-se that you have. I should feel very natural for tac shooters.

[@LAdiez213]

What mouse skates you're using with your gpxs?

[@jose.h204]

how long does the saturn mouse pad take, i already pre ordered it

[@Zeradius]

Good review.. How does this compare to the fnatic dash and Control + white edition? I play mainly csgo.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The surface should feel smoother and have higher dynamic friction to give it a slower glide. Static friction is going to be a little higher than those pads, but it's not going to feel sticky or muddy.

[@Zeradius]

@@KraftyCraftKraf sweet thanks :)

[@LastMag]

Do movements on both the X and Y axes feel the same speed on this pad

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah they feel the same to me

[@LastMag]

alright thank you

[@tinocabral4201]

is this in comparison to the newer zero? i know they sorta "revamped" it and its smoother now

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Nah this is an old zero. Apparently the new zero and saturn feel nearly identical to the touch and the only real difference is that the saturn is a little slower due to the weave being closer together to prevent hairs sticking.

[@kekkek2869]

I would love to hear your take on the Xtrfy GPZ1

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I'll try it out soon. I have some other pads I need to get to first, but I'm interested in checking it out.

[@kekkek2869]

@@KraftyCraftKraf awesome, def looking forward to it! Thanks.

[@sheluvme6940]

wut are the difference between each pad?

[@ilgnkaragoz8303]

anyone knows whats the surface called exactly? i have been searching but i couldnt find it out

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I don’t know either buts it’s probably Amundsen fabric. It has that somewhat polyester feel and it’s a super common material to make pads out of. Still don’t know but that’s a safe guess. If you’re really curious you can reach out to LGG directly with your question. They are insanely responsive and have easily the best customer support I’ve ever experienced or even heard of.

[@ilgnkaragoz8303]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thanks for your answer. to be honest your right, its the best to get in touch with them

[@AlonixGaming]

How does this compare to a Gigantus v2? Debating on the Saturn vs the Odin Eclipse

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

It should have less static friction and resistance on small movements than the gigantus. It's dynamic friction is just slightly lower so it'll also feel a little faster on large movements.

[@AlonixGaming]

@@KraftyCraftKraf so if I’m looking for something on par or slightly slower than the gigantus, the Eclipse is most likely the better option?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah, that should be much closer to what you want. I really enjoy that pad as well, it’s super solid.

[@Cosed]

Bro you gotta settle your bass in a mixer. Watched this while running some kovaaks and thought someone was beating down my door with those deep low thuds from you tapping on your desk

[@skolatti]

10:42 r u saying or implying that with a middle of the road pad, it will hinder u from getting top scores compared to using smth faster like a skypad?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah exactly. It's impossible to move your mouse as quickly on a mid speed pad as it is on glass, that's just how friction works. I notice it's super easy to have pop off runs on the skypad or other speed surfaces where I hit my peak and get new scores. However, my averages are way more consistent on a balanced control surface, so it's much easier to slowly grind out the specific mouse control skills I need to improve and see incremental results. I'll still score better on speedy surfaces, but it's harder to improve.

[@skolatti]

@@KraftyCraftKraf that's such an interesting take also great job on the video it's very information dense and ive spent a lot of time rewatching bits that i didn't catch the first time

[@georgepierre3594]

Does the saturn or the odin eclipse have more stopping power?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The eclipse has more but not by a whole lot.

[@EtherealBeardMan]

How do you feel it compares to the Hayate Otsu? Sounds pretty similar.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

It does have a little bit of that Otsu feel where it has a quick acceleration into a nice glide that has an easy stop, but the Saturn has so much more friction on all movements that it ends up feeling pretty different to use. The Saturn's glide feels slower and more controlled with greater stopping power due to the higher dynamic friction. The Otsu's lower static friction makes it feel less locked in than the Saturn but it has the ease of micro-adjustments of a fully speed pad. The extra texture on the Otsu also makes its glide feel pretty different and gives you some extra feedback.

[@abdulahsan3121]

venus the one that similar to the hayate otsu

[@faristertaisung8379]

i know this is weird but i had to set the playback to 0.75x to be able to understand what this guy is saying XD, but thats just me thou

[@brunotolomeotti1204]

Krafty, do you prefer the zero in soft or xsoft?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

with the new zero’s surface i’ve been really enjoying xsoft. the softer weave plus spongy center is a very comfortable combination that’s felt great. it does start to into the territory where i think that it might be too squishy for some people, though, so be a little careful.

[@brunotolomeotti1204]

@@KraftyCraftKraf I would love to see the Saturn with more colors and softness choices (maybe asking too much). Thanks!

[@I3asyl]

How would you compare the saturn to the vaxee PA?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

They are somewhat similar in how they perform since they are both balanced control pads but the feeling is quite different. The Saturn has a more synthetic feel so it's not as smooth in both how it feels on your arm and how your mouse accelerates. It also has a good bit lower static friction so it doesn't feel as restrictive and does better to assist in micro corrections but it is also less stable. The Saturn's dynamic friction actually feels a hair higher than the PA so it can tend to feel slower and more controlled for larger swipes despite a less restrictive feeling. If I could only use one, I would probably go for the Saturn because of how incredibly versatile it is, but I still do prefer the PA because its surface helps me play very consistently which helps set it apart from the pack and give it a more defined place in a pad rotation. Like I said in the video, the Saturn is pretty boring and PA just has a little more character.

[@I3asyl]

@@KraftyCraftKraf as always incredibly insightful response. I think I might just have to try Saturn then. For me I live the micro adjustments on the xten but flicks feel a lot better on pa since it had more stopping power. I think Saturn might be that in-between having the static friction of the xten while having a ton of stopping power like the pa. In also interested in just trying glass skates on the pa to get that faster static friction but none for the g303 yet haha Thanks again and keep it up bro!

[@tubulartuber]

Can you review the Venus next?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah, I'm planning to cover the rest of LGG's lineup and the venus does sound particularly interesting. I'll get right to testing them and prepping reviews when they finally ship out.

[@tubulartuber]

@@KraftyCraftKraf Cool thanks. Have you use used either the QCK+ or Gigantus V2, and if so, how would you compare them to the Saturn?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I've never used those pads specifically, but have experience with other similar control pads. The Saturn will feel faster than these pads pretty easily. It'll have less dynamic friction but still retain a great amount of stopping power, albeit still less than a slow cloth pad. The biggest difference will be that the Saturn will feel far less sticky due it having significantly less static friction and lower resistance on smaller motions. It should allow you to breath a little bit more on inner hand motions.

[@tubulartuber]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thanks!

[@loopernz]

what mousepad are you maining?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The WuGi2 is currently my favorite but the Saturn is not far off.

[@miguelcortez9742]

have u tried the lgg jupiter?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

No, not yet, but I am getting one sent out with the other pre-orders, so I'll be covering that pad along with the rest of their lineup for sure.

[@rldzdoug]

could you tell me your hand size?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

18 * 9-9.5 cm

[@rldzdoug]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you so much

[@grubmeister5506]

vaxee pa or zero ?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The pa is super solid but I definitely prefer the zero. The zero is very well balanced and the quality is unmatched obviously, but the pa has its own niche and is pretty solid for the price. I'm making a review on the PA in a couple days where I'll talk about it more.

[@FeelLikeGastly]

Xten or artisan zero?

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I like the rougher surface on the xten more and it is my favorite pad, but I still think that the zero is a better overall option. It’s value is great considering how long it lasts, it has a better base, perfect stitched edges, and a smoother, more comfortable surface. It’s the perfect pad really. You may be like me and prefer the xten surface but the zero is still the easier recommendation to make.

[@FeelLikeGastly]

@@KraftyCraftKraf thanks for the response!

[@jerico1027]

If you looking for a mousepad with a lot of stopping power, this aint for you. This pad very fast no stopping power at all

[@krasimirmiroslavov7330]

Can u recommend good pad close to GSR-SE with better durability :D

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

The vaxee pa is almost the same but it seems to have better durability. The radar is pretty similar too and it’s just a simple cloth surface so it should last a long time.

[@paintsplatkid13]

Your audio is a little quiet for me.

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

Yeah it is a little quiet. My mic has peaking issues so I can't boost is as much as I'd like. I'll try to mess with the audio more next time to get better volume.

[@SweetJesus16]

Can you talk a bit faster please

[@Iuffycs]

you mean slower

[@reinierpotts8748]

Fnatic Focus 3 review? :B

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

I should check that out sometime. The potential value seems insane.

[@HXRMLESS]

this shit sounded like ad made by a robot

[@lip4681]

can you review uranus next? jk

[@KraftyCraftKraf]

highkey, a uranus glass pad would probably be fire