Lets test all 4 Umarex T4e Launchers after upgrades!!! | This puts the rubber to the road!

[@Mootzshootz]

Excellent video Jon, I appreciate you! I’m glad I can contribute to the LL community! Happy AirFunning!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Better check your email brother :) DONT STOP INNOVATING! :)

[@Mootzshootz]

@@AlternateArmsSD yes it is blown up with orders…thank you again for doing these videos I truly appreciate you, I will have more springs for you very soon my shipment is on the way and then I can get them out to you and then we can get them out to the community!!!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@Mootzshootz You're the man brother! I've made a decision too........... and you're going to like it :)

[@runerebel8441]

Thank you for the shout-out brother. Great video and test. Keep up the good work. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Brother, you’re family around here. Everybody knows you :-)

[@runerebel8441]

@@AlternateArmsSD Thanks brother 😃

[@scottbeard9640]

Awesome! Finally a great .43 mod. Always a great surprise tuning in to your channel my friend.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks Brother!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Hey Folks! Please read the description for ordering details! This is a MUST DO mod for these launchers. It really changes them completely! Have a great week!

[@bendogie1]

how do i get the spring for the mod

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@bendogie1 I’ve got a link in the description to his website. When you get there, go to miscellaneous and you will see it.

[@lesslethalfordummies]

Always enjoy testing markers back to back. The consistency with the heavier balls just isnt there. Its higher albeit but boltless markers like these T4e are much more consistent with lighter balls as your test showed. Its not wrong but i would prefer to know the shots are traveling at a much similar speed. Moving a heavy ball from a dead stop with limited charge air just isnt ideal.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Agreed, the pepperballs are a true test in my opinion and they flat book out of these after this mod. I have a test in mind.. So many video ideas...So little time :)

[@lesslethalfordummies]

@@AlternateArmsSD 🤣 i have adjusted my clocks to read 26hrs.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@lesslethalfordummies So thats the trick?!?! :)

[@checkitout4740]

The Springs are a Good Start, but to get the Absolute Max Power....you Need a Slightly Longer Valve Pin to stick outside the Back Plate about a 16th of an inch,and a Stronger Hammer Spring inside the Frame (Not the Valve Spring). With a Strong Hammer Spring...the Hammer will hit the Valve Pin down Deeper which Holds the Valve Open Longer to Release More co2. That is the Formula. You are onto Something Good.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Oh yeah, I've also located a few "air leakage" areas that could be corrected as well. This is the start of these upgrades :)

[@reaperairdefence932]

Just by drilling out the holes on the valve and stronger hammer spring. We hit almost 400fps with 1gram riot balls. I installed a weaker spring when I serviced the mag and it hits even harder. 7.something joules with hammer and hole mod. Weaker spring should bump this up... Will chrono whenever I get a chance. Cannot get heavier ammo in SA beside ball bearings 🙆🏽

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@reaperairdefence932 Yeah, at 1gram I'm thinking these are going to hit 400+ pretty easily. Pepperballs typically weigh less that 1 gram anyway which makes this a MUST mod for these. Juiced with that hammer srping, these might hit closer to 500FPS.. Now by creative brain is flowing ;)

[@Gforcedefense]

@@AlternateArmsSDany suggestions to get this too 500 fps?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@ light rounds are about the only way. You can modify the magazine to definitely give you about 20% more power, but these are pretty limited on what you can do.

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

Hey bud good to see ya still got love for these cool lil tools

[@AlternateArmsSD]

You know it man! :)

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

​@@AlternateArmsSDhopefully u won't have to use it

[@bigrodney1453]

AWESOME VIDEO!! Thank you man. I see it works! Gonna order spring for sure now!!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

My pleasure Brother!

[@RamboRichardson]

Your awesome for offering that service, I'm saving up for a Walther now and just currently doing research. When I get it can I still buy modded mags from you?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

You know it Brother! I will always carry the mags (and I mod every one that comes in) ..

[@DisciplineOne]

Still enjoying your videos. I find them informative and entertaining.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks Brother! MUCH more coming! :)

[@brandonknight9527]

Nice! Do you know how many joules the Walter ppq increased to? I really like the design and would like to see if it's usable for self defense.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

It’s looking like close to 10 depending on the ammunition you use.. we are working on another upgrade as well. They get better all the time :)

[@iH8BeingSOBER]

Thank you for the knowledge sir about to purchase the walhter ppq and use it as for self defense. I got alot of ppl telling me its not enough firepower? Looking forward to upgrading that as soon as i get it

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@iH8BeingSOBER The T4E line are great launchers. They are on the lower end of the power spectrum compared to the others. Be sure to use a high quality pepper round as well. Be safe out there.

[@RGAIRGUNNINJA]

on most of my ol school mods from way back involved making pin easier to push in to release more co2 , then you need to make hammer heavier to invoke the inertia forces , you need to make hammer hit a lot faster and harder , when hammer is down all the way see if the pin is pushed in all the way , i would add a screw or something else to add material to the front of the hammer ,and fitting the ammo to barrel etc. . the things i have done with a red ryder ,daisy 880 , crosman vigilante , crosman 1077 , and a few others would blow some peoples minds lol . for the last 7 months i been really working hard on the umarex hdp and hdr's !!! i tell you JON , this is really fun working with and modding these markers . until we can get at least 20 joules from these .43 cals , im trying my best to stay away from them lol !!! nice show my brother !!!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Heh we're going to get there! I suspect there is a lot more under the hood we can tinker with :) Just give this community time :)

[@RGAIRGUNNINJA]

@@AlternateArmsSDINDEED MY MUCH LOVED AND HIGHLY RESPECTED AWESOME BROTHER !!!!!!!!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@RGAIRGUNNINJA This is the best community!!

[@MDHenry4]

Thanks cool looking and efficient controlled spread with the jell

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks man!

[@KeithF1407]

I've watched the video with the PDP compact and I like the look of that gun.....I've sent you an email but it said that you was out till the 16th and i'm looking for something compact to carry but has a kick to it

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@KeithF1407 Hey Keith! I saw that email man. I have hit and miss internet here but I'll be in thr office responding to all emails on Thursday.

[@KeithF1407]

@AlternateArmsSD ok cool I can't wait to hear from u

[@meanmike6169]

Tell me where I can order the modified mods.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Shoot me an email Brother! The website is up but limited and will be going full force when I return from ShotShot next week. [e-mail]

[@undomyself]

Mod the hammer spring and get even more fps 🧐

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Oh, its coming :)

[@-Cutz-]

What dude you can mod another part??? Where's the video!!!! Come on bro we need to see it I think alot of your viewers have the t4e .43 guns

[@dalehamlin6247]

Greetings Jon. I’m a little late seeing this particular video. Are you still selling the mags for the Walther with the spring upgrade? If so how do I go about ordering one? Thanks for all you do brother.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

I am indeed man! Shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I’ll be wading through them all tomorrow morning (I’ve been out of town for a week) :)

[@katherinedo7386]

Have been watching your channel for awhile. Great videos and the mod. Would the mod help with stopping or slow someone down with just kinetic? I live in state that do not allow pepper balls. Any kinetic round .43 that would take good punch?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

The key to using these in that scenario is shot placement which boils down to practice. Otherwise, I’d go with a modded hdp50, byrna, Grimburg, salt supply, or tr50.

[@BillButler-c9v]

What size snap ring pliers fits that cap

[@AlternateArmsSD]

I actually bought a multi size snap ring kit but, I found that a standard set of 45° needle nose pliers works better.

[@curtisheirston8070]

New to this arena... looking at possibly purchasing HDR50 or 68... which do you prefer and why? BTW good job w/vids! Thx Curtis

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks Brother! I gave you some suggestions on the other video comment :)

[@docholliday1811]

Great video Jon, you convinced me to get the springs.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Its a MUST man! Poor Mike is gonna get killed this evening :)

[@tonesanchez456]

With 1.9 gram balls, they shoot 290 down to 277 out the box. I dont understand why you guys are saying that the spring gave you more fps.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Because they simply don't. I have tested MANY different types of ammo in EVERY one of these since they were released. With 1.9-2.1 you will consistently see the 240-260 range. Dropping to a pepperball you will see 335ish stock. Trust me man, I have tested extensively, and this mod DOES increase the power output. Thanks for watching!

[@Unus_mundus_]

Send us the video of your t4e doing what you said. Let’s see

[@kurt9994]

Spoken like a true gentleman. Valve spring upgrade ✔️. I have a feeling the hammer spring might be next? Thanks to Mike for the idea of the different valve spring and your extensive testing to verify his testing with the effectiveness of that spring.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@kurt9994 Hammer spring is next brother :) ALSO .. I found to potential air leak spots that can be corrected....... Fun to come!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@Unus_mundus_ Its ok man, the box ratings on weapon are generally quoted using a very light round for higher velocity. Actually, that's NOT a bad thing.. If a person is using a pepperball, they are going to get that 400+ FPS and it WILL rupture on impact.

[@rayschalch]

They released a T4E TR50 11Joule version from umarex.... Could you test it please?? 👌

[@AlternateArmsSD]

I have…. It’s a great weapon BUT you can get the same power (and more) out of both the 7.5j and 11j version after the mods. I have videos up on them.

[@rayschalch]

@@AlternateArmsSD my question then is... If you mod the 11J version, will it go even further than the 7.5J version? Or is 11J the max you'll always get? Thanks for responding, great channel!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@rayschalch No, BOTH can be upgraded to beyond 18J with the block deletion. It benefits both of them to be modded.

[@rayschalch]

@@AlternateArmsSD thanks so much, that makes my buying decision much easier 👌👌

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@rayschalch My pleasure man!

[@dataluskazan4006]

Aluminum rounds that's interesting next will be titanium rounded I love titanium LOL

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Ooohhhhh I’d like to try titanium round but hat could get a tad expensive :)

[@dataluskazan4006]

@@AlternateArmsSDcertainly could but can you really put a price on cool LMAO

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@dataluskazan4006 Very true!!!!

[@mattluccia4247]

I would like to purchase one of the modified Launchers from you would you please let me know how to do that

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Shoot me an email at the address listed in the description.

[@LawrencePaul-p7c]

Great videos!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks man!

[@LawrencePaul-p7c]

Walther PPQ Gen 1 or 2, which do you prefer? And what exactly is the difference?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

There is VERY little difference between the two. However, which ever you use, mod the mag spring for power.. You wont regret it.

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

Great stuff getting shot in the PP is always going to hurt you call it groin I call them as I see or hear them lol

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Or face, head, neck, or kneecap. Yeah, folks tend to ignore the reality that a solid shot in the right place is game over. :)

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

@@AlternateArmsSD I don't and I'm not to bad of a shot

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

@@AlternateArmsSD shin bone to if your accurate enough ever get kicked there no fun

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@smokingunclefrank6037 With an aluminum ball at 400 FPS … Yikes

[@thewintersessions]

Could’ve tested next to the hdp50 for a control

[@AlternateArmsSD]

They aren’t as powerful as a modded HDP50. That’s what we’re working on :)

[@thewintersessions]

@@AlternateArmsSD incredible!

[@paulshanklin4504]

Hi. I was wondering if you could tell me how to fix the pressure indicator that broke on my hdp 50. ( it’s completely gone so all pressure comes out of hole) Remember I had contacted you earlier about this. Thank you for your videos.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

The easiest way is to rebuild or replace it. The yare very inexpensive. Shoot me an email. [e-mail]

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

I didn't see much of a cloud with the powder rounds sorry I'LL stick to my Byrna for pepper

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Voume is always good. There is a TON down there though.. The camera doesn't pick it up well. The lady that cleans the floors always says it's like walking into a flour factory :)

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

@@AlternateArmsSD Well some day Ill pick up a 43 cal and see

[@RaysAirgunsReview]

What was the weight of the rounds used in these tests( aluminum and the rubber test round??)

[@AlternateArmsSD]

The aluminum rounds are right at 2g

[@alexanderedrickcolegado5009]

Where do you sell the magazines that’s already been upgraded ?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I’ll be back in town tomorrow. Thanks!

[@meanmike6169]

From you.

[@John-mb1et]

You are so frendley guy Liked the vid, thanks

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Thanks Brother! I love my channel and this community is amazing!

[@babalouie1122]

John where do we buy these modded guns they aren’t on the flea market site

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@markknight2768]

Is there a list somewhere of Umarex Launchers with piercing mechanism for the CO₂? I know another company makes a few that has piercing mechanism for the CO₂ when you start to pull the trigger on the first shot... does Umarex make something similar or only the ones that you strike the bottom to pierce it?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Umarex doesn’t have a trigger charge mechanism yet. There are several companies that do but they have adopted one. I’m sure they will at some point though.

[@markknight2768]

@@AlternateArmsSD thanks for the reply... Looking forward to seeing one from them.

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@markknight2768 I do too! They are overdue :) Thanks for watching!

[@PaulFesta-um9ev]

John want to modify one unit and purchase another one

[@AlternateArmsSD]

I can handle all of that :-) shoot me an email brother [e-mail]

[@leewareing4398]

I am looking for a carry launcher. What do you suggest?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

For day to day, I’d suggest a Byrna or a modified HDP50 (the latter being more powerful and more cost effective. You can use the T4 launchers if you would like however, they lack the same amount of punch you’re going to get out of these two.

[@leewareing4398]

How do I contact you?

[@leewareing4398]

Are the hdp50 small enough for a pocket? What does it cost for modified version ?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@leewareing4398 well, possibly. The hdp50 is about the size of a colt 1911. Now the hdp50 and Compact is quite a bit smaller. I have a video up on that as well. Shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@leewareing4398 Shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I’ll be back in town tomorrow.

[@tkiser1169]

Your opinion, Glock or Walther PPQ

[@AlternateArmsSD]

They are both awesome. The Glock is a tad "snappier" but the power is very close on both (Mod the mag spring whichever one you get)

[@gerardmcquade9102]

have you ever used the permanent UV ink before?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Funny you should ask........... Stay tuned :)

[@gerardmcquade9102]

@@AlternateArmsSD great i would love to see those tested because i have never seen them being used

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@gerardmcquade9102 Yeh, I have a couple other nasty ideas too :)

[@gerardmcquade9102]

@@AlternateArmsSD there are stink bomb paintballs too

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@gerardmcquade9102 eewwwww

[@PatrikTörnqvist-m4h]

which one is your favorite and why?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Brother, that opinion is involved so many times over the years. Also, the new PDP just dropped so it adds a little more fuel to the fire :-) stay tuned.

[@PatrikTörnqvist-m4h]

@@AlternateArmsSD you must have someone you prefer hehe tell me

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Hehe Well, it really depends on your usage. Every ltl launcher has advantages and disadvantages. @@PatrikTörnqvist-m4h

[@PatrikTörnqvist-m4h]

@@AlternateArmsSD okay as I live in Sweden and we have to have a gun license for real guns. and I don't have that. so now I'm going to buy a self defense gun from you which of the umarex t4e would you recommend? haha

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@PatrikTörnqvist-m4h , that narrows it down quite a bit :-) is this going to be for home protection or for something you’re going to carry every day?

[@mattluccia4247]

Can you please send me the information so I can purchase one of the launchers

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Shoot me an email at [e-mail]. I’ll be responding in the morning :)

[@mattluccia4247]

I have the umarex 50 cal compact how can I send it to you for a full modification top of the line

[@AlternateArmsSD]

@@mattluccia4247 Shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@keeperssecurity8083]

Ah yes!

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Long overdue!

[@-Cutz-]

I want to do.the upgrade 6.99 dollars a spring...i got 4 t4e markers 2 glocks 4 mags total for both so 2 each then i got a vp9 and a ppqm2 blue one both 3 mags each so id need a total of 10 springs about 70 dollars plus tax when on sale but its 9.99 normally is it worth the upgrade does it mess up the magazine? I might have you have to do all the upgrades i dont want to mess em up lol

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Brother, shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@PaulFesta-um9ev]

2nd one also modified

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Perfect :)

[@KevnDontKnowHowYouDoTheVoodoo]

For some reason I don't get notifications about your new videos...

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Hmm is the "bell" blue on the video?

[@bluecreech]

Just wondering. If all your videos are on less lethal, then why not change your channel name.? Or am I missing something.?

[@AlternateArmsSD]

Greetings, that’s a reasonable question. When I first started the channel, it was all about technology. Retro, current, and future tech. In the world of nonlethal self-defense, there’s a great deal of technology involved. From time to time, I still go back to my computer routes and do other videos as well. In fact, I’m already preparing a new series that revolves around retro gaming systems.