Garry Kasparov: Chess, Deep Blue, AI, and Putin | Lex Fridman Podcast #46

[@lexfridman]

I really enjoyed this conversation with Garry. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 1:33 - Love of winning and hatred of losing 4:54 - Psychological elements 9:03 - Favorite games 16:48 - Magnus Carlsen 23:06 - IBM Deep Blue 37:39 - Morality 38:59 - Autonomous vehicles 42:03 - Fall of the Soviet Union 45:50 - Putin 52:25 - Life

[@godblessamerica793]

If a human evolves to understand everything about our existence, scientifically and emotionally, then he/she knows how to play the game (power vs survival), without letting their emotions take control. One's past memories can manipulate one's present thinking, that affects one's ability to focus on a particular task(s). I think, when a machine is capable of expressing emotions, it could be the downfall of the human race. Because we as humans, tend to use our emotions as a tool for seduction (control) and/or isolation (superiority). An open mind, in my opinion, is one that keeps emotions from being created for personal gains. Collective intelligence, is the key to progress. That, to me, is the definition of winning the game of life...

[@zhongzhongclock]

@@tunestar I remember he said AlphaZero comes from the game's most principal rules without any restrictions, just like himself. He doesn't want to comment himself.

[@colouredlaundry1165]

Great conversation and always great questions. Thank you Lex and Garry.

[@zhongzhongclock]

@@tunestar I love this ego, because I also has similar ego for myself. Hahahaha!

[@dfmiv649]

Dude, can we just like trade places? I live in a litter strewn flat in the south of the UK, basically with a smartphone for company. Lots of interesting crap on the floor, if you can engage with such stuff.. Appealsaballs?

[@bharathmshetty]

`Fear of mistakes guarantees mistakes` - Garry Kasparov

[@JaapVersteegh]

@DM Blackgvard Hesitation and "Fear of Mistakes" are certainly not the same thing. A fear of mistakes is almost certainly a mistake, but hesitation may certainly be a winning move imho. Maybe not in chess.. I'm not a chess player ;)

[@xXxserenityxXx]

Time isn't time without notice. Yeah, anyone can talk nonsense.

[@javierespinoza686]

one cannot not making mistakes...

[@EnnoMaffen]

What a vapid thing to say. One of those things that seem smart at first glance, but when you begin to even scratch the surface it disintegrates into a cloud of utter meaninglessness. And I'm pretty sure Kasparov would agree.

[@vibovitold]

True. Not fearing mistakes also guarantees mistakes, though.

[@pranavkarve2494]

"The match in 1997 wasn't the first match I lost against a computer, it was the first match I lost, period." Holy shit, this really highlights just how freaking dominant he was in his career, I mean, just WOW! What a legend!!

[@sudarshangopinathan5904]

Not really, he lost multiple times before to even Karpov and Ivanchuk

[@Pawn-Sac]

@@sudarshangopinathan5904 We're talking matches, not games. Forgive me if I believe Kasparov over you.

[@tistelnilsson]

@@sudarshangopinathan5904 Sounds like you failed to understand the interview. One can lose to a better player, or lose due to own mistakes. Losing to a better opponent may very well be the first time for him, but not his first loss.

[@galaxywz]

@@tistelnilsson that’s not the point, he lost individual GAMES to people but never a match, which is a series

[@bentolontevo7533]

he lost against Bobby Fisher folks.

[@marcsman07]

Lex has not failed to bring in EXCEPTIONAL guests. Keep it up!

[@stevenrogersfineart4224]

No joke.

[@soodless4159]

Whats more impressive is his ability to interview excellent guests and get as much as he can out of them.

[@nft3]

"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk Couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.

[@mainlymusicman]

this guy is an idiot

[@rence60]

You know it's 2020 when two russians are having a chat in english

[@andrejm77]

Those two are obviously soviet spies!

[@naimulhaq9626]

So does the presidents of France and Germany. Soon they will speak in Chinese, like an ex-Australian president.

[@Uppernorwood976]

In the 19th century aristocratic Russians spoke French to each other

[@AG-ig8uf]

Tbf, neither of them is ethnically russian

[@colin7242]

@@NaumRusomarov Why is it unfortunate? Far more people understand English, it's not like they're losing their language lol

[@Lamedvavnik]

As an Englishman, I was constantly entertained with his English pronunciation of “you know”

[@benwhite8145]

Speaking on Caruana: "Fifteen years ago I would have crushed him." Gotta love Kasparov.

[@canibanoglu9643]

He'll always have that killer instinct I guess :D

[@digital_gravity]

He's not wrong.

[@FrogSkull]

It is true that he got winning position after winning position in that match, but kept blundering in the endgame.

[@digital_gravity]

@@FrogSkull Time pressure. Gary is just slower in his old age. Happens to all the great players.

[@Myrslokstok]

Caruana is a briliant player.

[@kubrick2324]

I think it's pretty cool Kasparov knows what DOTA is.

[@leoSaunders]

26:16

[@ismailb4334]

He is a very open guy. Enjoys many things and he is a very social dude, he is also a great speaker. Current chess players are great in playing chess, but are extremelly boring to listen to.

[@stepan5455]

Also it’s huge in Russia (relative to other competitive e-sports outside of CS:GO)

[@ozonejgs2887]

Yeah, it was genuinely (and surprisingly) awe-inspiring to hear him say Dota. One of my idols in Chess recognising this other related but distant topic that I am also really involved in

[@andreidanilov9925]

@@ismailb4334 have you ever heard Magnus during his interviews? He’s funny as hell

[@domothepilot]

to me, joe rogan is about entertainment, and lex is about pure well-intentioned, good-hearted curiosity. i love it.

[@dead_unicorn6074]

Then DTFH is about spirituality

[@mmcmann9539]

Lex isn’t trying to teach the experts. Lol

[@germanrud9904]

Except when you mention da joose, then good intentions go out the window

[@SolarJakee]

To me, Rogan is about getting to know the person and Lex is about getting to know the ideas.

[@xj0ex39]

Do you still have the same opinion with modern JRE?

[@seanfitzgerald4207]

"machines will always beat humans at closed-system type problems or games. They don't have to solve them, they just have to make fewer mistakes"

[@tbomber]

wish Lex had followed up by asking, "is the universe a closed system?"

[@santishorts]

@ladiesman217 # How do you know it's not? There is a finite amount of it. There are rules (physics) that define its boundaries. And that we know of, we can't transfer mass or energy from our universe, to someplace out of it. Just because it's a complex system with huge amount of variables, doesn't mean it's not closed.

[@santishorts]

@ladiesman217 # Care to elaborate?

[@Deebomc]

@@santishorts I think he's making a semantic distinction between "universe" and "multiverse", first off; the |idea of a "multiververse"|, itself, being a derivative which is implicit of a fundamentally quantum mechanical conception of |the question of|: "what 'is' is", second off.

[@Deebomc]

@ladiesman217 # 618>217 😆

[@Andrei118]

Lex "Forgive me for Romanticizing the Notion" Fridman

[@tiagomota4734]

ro?

[@Andrei118]

@@tiagomota4734 si

[@npacebg]

Andre "Lex Fridman's fashion advisor" Munteanu

[@MORErings]

Lex lingering on that idea fridman

[@notnoaintno5134]

Lex "what is the meaning of love" Fridman

[@foremarke]

Lex you are killing ittt!!!, the calibre of the guests alone is enough to keep bringing me back but more so, you successfuly get most of your guests to a very honest and comfortable position to speak from which allows for these brilliant, natural convos. Thanks for the great content

[@ecommasters3847]

Charlie Bee this content feels like it is what the world needs. Thanks Lex

[@jladosky23]

Oh man between this and Lenny Susskind you are really getting on some good guests. My all time favorite chess player this man is a genius! Thank you!

[@RB-jz1rr]

@@bauisadatiki2213 Care to elaborate? :)

[@samreciter]

George Hotz, Kai-Fu Lee, Elon Musk, Michio Kaku, Garry Kasparov, etc. Damn o_O - what amazing guests you always have !

[@aakksshhaayy]

Who is michio kaku? Some fake TV scientist

[@BiancaAguglia]

There were quite a few gems in this conversation (eg. we have to switch from the mindset that there is a competition between humans and machines, to the mindset that machines are the best tool for solving closed-system type of problems), but, if I had to choose my favorite one, it would be Gary's message that, in the end, what drives us all is the desire to make a difference. 😊

[@youtubeuser9972]

this is incredible.. you really have the best podcast and the best guests.. keep it up

[@james1327]

Things I love about these podcasts is the consistent design and thought given to the podcast structure and thoughtful questions. Really nailing it.

[@janburgers5832]

Lex "I do what I can" Fridman.. excellent, two passionate people, gotta love the both of you

[@Dasel22]

Kasparov is such an intriguing person.When he speaks he doesnt waste a word.So efficient in explaining his thought

[@germanchris4440]

I can't imagine a more satanic "person" (man, actually).

[@TheSavagederek]

Garry for me is the greatest of all time. He is a true genius. OK he made some mistakes, but not many and don't forget when he lost the second match against Deep blue, he wasn't playing one man or woman, but a team and a machine, who knew all his moves, all his openings, all his middle and end game strategies. Garry was not allowed to see Deep blues matches on the run up to the matches so couldn't study it in the same way, and he did win the first match. I think if Garry was at his peak today, the likes of Carlsen, MVL, Dubov, Nakamura etc... Would struggle to beat him. He was that good.

[@eliaframsgimp9618]

Further, after the first win, there was one loss and all draws until the last game. The only reason he lost that last game was because he played a bad move to try to force the computer out of its book. If he played his natural game it could've easily been another draw.

[@baljeetdhanoa9356]

Lex , all I got to say is thank you. Really respect what you do and its adding tremendous value to humanity, when alone on that run in the morning with the pleasant breeze thinking about life I want to you to know that you are playing the great part in evolution of so many people by elevating their thought process.

[@RavenRedwood]

One of my favorite Lex interviews, hands down. Garry is so inspiring. Спасибо!

[@BookWormsOriginal]

What a mind-blowing starting question which segues into an awesome conversation!

[@AndreiKreativ]

This interview was awesome. Gary Kasparov is so smart and the answers shows that ... Thanks Lex for inviting him and creating another very different and very good interview job!

[@tuomoluukkanen7265]

I love the fact that the whole football conversation started as an example how impossible it's to argue who's the best, and it immediately evolved into an arguement who's the best.

[@mandm7878]

It's Messi.

[@naazahs9045]

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[@IvanGoncharovAI]

OMG! Garry Kasparov on Lex Fridman, what an exciting episode we're witnessing!

[@ionia2376]

Found you from your interview with Coffeezilla and so excited to see you'd interviewed Kasparov!!! Perfect to listen to after reading Deep Thinking

[@mgst4699003]

It’s heartbreaking that a man of such great caliber and accomplishment is today living away from his mother just because of the influence he carries and the political stance he holds

[@imnotsmartbutimdumb]

Yes it's sad how much some of these lefties have gone completely insane. Covid has exacerbated that problem 100 fold.

[@jebespolitiko]

Pushing le figurine left and right doesn't make one an expert on life, universe and everything.

[@mainlymusicman]

im sure his mother is better off without him

[@michaelwhinnery164]

This man has more energy than most people 1/4 his age. Thank you Mr Kasperov.

[@Erintii]

I got a pleasure to attend Garry Kasparov's lecture in Toronto, Canada and now I can recall it. Thank you very much for great job as always Lex.

[@kingscrusher]

Very interesting interview - many thanks Lex- becoming a big fan of you and also Kasparov who I have annotated many games of. I think Kasparov is right about closed vs open systems. With a restricted rule set, computers can generally have the right sort of calculations and end up playing with less mistakes than humans. So the concept of more open systems where there pre-determined algorithms may not be effective is really interesting point made by Kasparov. I am also currently annotating many games on my channel of the open-source successor of Alpha-zero - the Leela lc0 project. Maybe you have heard of it. lc0 recently won the prestigious TCEC computer chess event - beating Stockfish by a big margin. The games are pretty fascinating to me. The neural network approach to chess seems to create a very different style of play, and it seems quite interesting new middlegame concept themes have been emerging such as "thorn pawns". It seems Leela (lc0) is playing a very positional long term strategy compared to more traditional AB engines. Currently this division in the chessworld between the traditional AB engines and Neural Networks is really spicing up the engine chess tournaments. Cheers, K

[@aliciabaumgartner1406]

Always love to see youtubers I enjoy unexpectedly appearing in the same space. Fan of your work KC!

[@indoor_gangster]

@@aliciabaumgartner1406 nice! 🤙

[@garrettclayton4741]

Been watching your videos for over a decade! Cheers from the IS mate, you’re great.

[@TheMaestromMephisto]

Where did you go?, don't see your streams

[@arklowrockz]

I like the fact that Lex Fridman clearly preps a lot of notes and wants to pursue specific points in a podcast interview. The free-form thing can be good too but I gotta say it is good to see a slightly more structured approach too.

[@MrMetalzeb]

Lex, you are one of the most clever sience enterviewer I've ever seen untill now. With your questions, always really streight to the point, you really hit the core argumernt. always.. well done ++

[@MarkoTManninen]

Just wow, you really got his temper on fire! The first move brilliantly chosen. Fascinating to witness this interview.

[@di380]

I remember seeing that article in the news about deep blue defeating the world chess champion. The article inspired me to pickup a book and to pickup a book on how computers play chess and I learned about the minMax algorithm which is the way Stockfish still uses to calculate chess moves(some modification of it). To me Garry Kasparov was the inspiration for me to go into machine learning and study computer science and it was the first time I developed an interest in chess. Thank you Garry!

[@nethbt]

This needs a part II

[@stephenruby141]

I am incredibly impressed with this channel and the guests you have been able to get. I was so excited to see you got the legend Garry Kasparov on here! Well done.

[@jays907]

Thank you for asking him those questions in the way you did. I hope it allows people to see the opinion of others they might look up to.

[@LarsPallesen]

That was a wonderful interview. Thank you!

[@trimbotee4653]

This is such a great interview. Thanks Lex.

[@primarya4156]

He covered all the topics so well that we don’t even need a second vid.

[@GonogoBonobo]

Of the interviews I watched on your channel this one is my prefered one. By the way I prefer the 1 hour format over the longer ones.

[@pharmokan]

so many elegant philosophical proverbs and insight to walk away with in this interview. simply fantastic!

[@andrewk612]

I noticed Garry pronounces the phrase “you know” with a British English accent, I don’t know why but I find this super funny everytime I hear it once I noticed 😂

[@HowieStephens]

Haha I was noticing that too, also with "so" and some other words. Interesting amalgamation of Russian and English accents

[@zetristan4525]

It's a Nigel short in his brain circuits

[@desmond2640]

I've had the opportunity to meet Garry once, an amazing person.

[@marleen498]

Really interesting. Great how this conversation puts things into perspective. Great work Lex, keep it going!

[@koemdjiev]

That was a lovely talk, I enjoyed every minute of it. Thank you, Lex!

[@maconpatton]

Thank you for turning me on to Chess. I am a beginner but I can feel my brain working. Its an amazing feeling. I’ll leave it at that for Chess. The books your podcast is introducing to me is incredible. You are making s difference in a middle aged man’s life.

[@peipol96]

I love how he refers to his past self as another person.

[@tesseracta4728]

In our pasts, we were different people. If you were to bring the past self and the present self together and have them look each other in the eyes, tell each other what they're doing right and wrong, then continue their individual journeys to look at how they evolve separately, they will behave quite differently compared to their pasts based upon what they have seen and told. Any encounter towards the past/future self would have a highly reflective effect any one person. If anyone ever asks for an example, you probably don't even need a real life one; just look at Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.

[@dearestbrotherchroma]

Tesseract A both of you should look into Episodic vs. Diachronic memories.

[@billyelliot4141]

The longest living cell in the human body is 7 years. So every 7 years u have a new body. If u are 49 you are on your 7th body.

[@jon1805]

Great interview -- short, info packed, and answered most of my questions.

[@jamesatkins7592]

Thanks, one of my favorite interviews of yours!

[@srinivasrao6125]

What a conversation? Absolutely fantastic. Thanks Lex for bringing him in your podcast :)

[@adastraa11]

Haha, Garry reminds me so much of my Armenian dad, the expressions, volume and drama when talking :)

[@adoberoots]

Right? You can tell he is Armenian by watching him speak for about 2 seconds haha

[@withstyle9216]

I thinka many armenians have big energy

[@SumitYadav-mx8bp]

It's really a pleasure watching lex ask questions he speaks so elegantly!! Mr Kasparov also answered very calmly

[@cisobarbosa4240]

How! I could listen to Garry all day. Amazing conversation Alex!

[@Myrslokstok]

14:30 in Sweeden we had a extrordinary downhill skier Ingmar Stenmark, who used to say: - as moore I train the moore "luck" I seem to have.

[@lookatdesigns8282]

One of great thinkers of our time

[@user-te7rf8ik7z]

And Garry Kasparov)

[@lookatdesigns8282]

@@user-te7rf8ik7z don't do Gary like that🤣

[@nft3]

"While it's true that Kasparov is almost as good at playing chess as my iPhone, he is otherwise an idiot," - Elon Musk And I couldn't agree more. Stopped liking Kasparov when he started spreading obvious fake news about WikiLeaks around 2016.

[@minimalfun]

Superb interview! Kasparov is phenomenal, so many take aways.

[@benlamprecht6414]

Thanks very much Lex - What a Brilliant interview! What a pleasure to experience TWO Masters.

[@shanastroskyphazer8172]

This was totally awesome. !Thanks Lex . There is a you tube video somewhere of Garry playing a chess simul in France . He won all 25 games ! This is classic OG chess content that I always highly recommend, it encompasses the life of a super chess GM back in the day before Queens gambit. Go Garry !

[@coronnation8854]

Hearing Kasparov say DOTA, is something I never thought I would hear! Epic.

[@corkkyle]

Fantastic interview! Thank you.

[@MarkDanov]

45:00 and just like that I absolutely fell in love with this guy! Thank you!

[@ecosse1982]

1:54 Gary's infectious laugh never changes and never ceases to amuse me.

[@mohameds3354]

41:57

[@ElkoJohn]

I learned more about AI from this interview than listening to any of the so-called experts. I am amazed at his brilliance on a variety of topics. Thank you Lex. Have him back again real soon. I want to know if he is an atheist or an agnostic.

[@augustosousa8276]

Well, this was wonderfull. My first chess book was of Gasparov and it was lovely to me. He is a live legend do the chess world. Thank you all for this great podcast!

[@thecrazyandthewild]

This interview was awesome! Very short but awesome! Thanks!

[@mattmaley8902]

I've never seen so much character development in 55 minutes. The Despicable Me series is truly amazing.

[@Jabadamazo]

I would make a small adjustment to something Kasparov said: It's not about the rules, it's about hidden information. If a game has hidden information, humans will generally be superior at it to computers. It's why poker bots are garbage.

[@ChrisKnights1]

Totally inspiring listening to the way Kasparov explains his points

[@DeuceGenius]

that 960 tournament was awesome. Kasparov's still got it. that was the most excited ive been about a chess tournament in a long time.

[@michaelt1775]

The amount of knowledge and well rounded unique individuals lex has on his podcast brings so much wealth to the podcast industry. He is in my top 3 Thanks Lex

[@intrusivethoughtofthatonetime]

One of the very few interviews that shows Kasparov as a brilliant intellectual rather than an a below-average politician.

[@shellrox2878]

jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.

[@shellrox2878]

jcims Below-average political systems attract below-average politicians. The optimal case is to create a system such that a political structure would attract highly intellectual people, making them locally average. But that would not happen, because most of the current structure is based on endless lies and manipulation.

[@abigaila1361]

@@sashazxtt Dear god

[@tima7756]

@@sashazxtt lol hoax? This has to be the dumbest conservative talking point. Bro there is so much direct, tangible evidence that arguing with anyone that says otherwise is a complete waste of time because they're most likely just assholes.

[@michaelh878]

@@tima7756 There's none. Trump has done so much to piss off Russia. Hes occupying parts of Syria. He has plotted multiple coups in Venezuala and Bolivia. He assassinated Suleimani. None of these things would happen if he was a Putin puppet.

[@eulefranz944]

Very well spoken. Kasparov's insight on computers was highly intriguing!

[@ohalloranjames]

great interview thanks I recall the Kasparov-Karpov wars- what an era that was. thanks for this

[@ewncilo]

What this guy says its so interesting. This has been my favorite guest so far. This guy is so likeble😁

[@Michael-vf2mw]

How in the world did you get Garry Kasparov on the show? Could you please share the backstory of what strings you pulled there? That alone is an outstanding accomplishment.

[@KerryFairbanks]

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[@Michael-vf2mw]

@@KerryFairbanks Haha, actually probably it is almost that simple.

[@susanfinkelstein1176]

Thank you. Kasparov is not only smart but a wise person. What a delightful interview. My best part was when you went “wow” upon learning that Kasparov’s loss to Deep Blue was also his first loss. I just read some of the comments and I can see how rich the content of this podcast is; just about anything Kasparov is saying one needs to commit to memory.

[@rhpmpp]

"I can fight every opponent but not my biological clock". - Garry Kasparov

[@Dorgannn]

he has a russian accent until he says "you know"

[@benwinstanleymusic]

ya noew

[@YankeeDoodleDandy]

His accent sounds like British English to me.

[@gmooney77]

@@YankeeDoodleDandy I thought the same thing, before I saw your comment as well. I don't know a lot about this guy but I'm assuming he learned English from the Brits, if he didn't speak if growing up.

[@kacx3121]

24:20 “...was not the first match I lost to a machine. It was the first match I lost - period.” “Oh wow!” ☠️

[@ihorhavryliuk7964]

It's always nice listen to the conversation of smart people. Thank you.

[@AldoKoskettimet]

one thing that makes the difference in leaders such as Kasparov is their strong determination and focus on keep it until reaching their goals, that's a characteristic of good project managers as well

[@anoopramakrishna]

Damn! Gary has such intuitive understanding of the nature of AI even without being a researcher, and also about most things in general, what a genius.

[@McRingil]

@@bauisadatiki2213 where is he wrong

[@thesuperiorman537]

@ensayofr wrong on what?

[@PartyRockAdviser]

24:10 - Moments of Reframing. I live for those, directly or vicariously. :)

[@7177YT]

Revisiting this in 2022 I wish this conversation did last longer than it did. Gary class A1 gentlemen and Fridman as well. Cheers!

[@ezrahn]

I just wanted to sincerely say: thank you Garry and thank you Lex.

[@andrewbrown6307]

fucking welcum

[@shaikan0]

Thank you for the amazing, high quality content Lex! I can't understand how can someone dislike content like this...

[@neagumatei8565]

At least for this video, it's a simple answer. 46 Putin trolls watched it.

[@maksa83]

​@@neagumatei8565 criteria for truth is practice. Putin is still withstanding not only that mediocre western puppet Kasparov and a hundred of others (with all due respect to his chess-mastery), but successfully withstanding the collective West. Try to listen to Putin's speech in Munich 2007 with bias aside. Look at the world we live in today.

[@dmurphydrtc]

Another excellent interview...thanks so much.

[@MagnusAnand]

Great interview !!

[@fiveminutesforsoul7176]

This man is brilliant !!! And he is still absolutely a great conversationalist !! Thanks Mr. Lex keep it up !

[@RawandCookedVegan]

Great interview, one has to admire the courage to speak so directly on Putin.

[@plinkslink5258]

@@sashazxtt what? Money has nothing to do with it.

[@plinkslink5258]

@@sashazxtt what goes money do? What are his motives? What does? What does!!! I don't know what does!

[@gegeevdavid]

@@sashazxtt tell it to Soloviev and Simonyan

[@Snake.007]

Really wish this was longer

[@jcair4017]

this video was very interesting as a case study of personality's, Fields and generational thinking. so much to unpack.

[@quill444]

One additional question I would love to see asked of Garry Kasparov: It is sad to have seen Garry go into "time paralysis" during multiple games in St. Louis over the course of the past few years, and I wonder what he now thinks when watching his own performances of those particular games in "real time" today. Nevertheless, this was an excellent interview, and it's always great to see the Champion of Our Chess Era, Garry Kasparov! Again, this is really a superb interview by Les Fridman. Garry Kasparov is an excellent speaker, and he always gives us a clear presentation of the issues, so I believe that the most important thing here was to both direct him toward revealing something new, and then to let him speak without interruption. And I believe that you succeeded on both fronts! - j q t -

[@xrambo]

it would be great to have 2nd round with him now

[@jasonpalgon7141]

Im so excited about watching this interview. Thank you!

[@davidkeck6183]

Garry is a very special guy. Inspirational. Achieving greatness in one domain and then leveraging that greatness to have greater impact in wider society. In this he reminds me of Muhammad Ali who once said "Boxing was just a means to introduce me to the world". So too was chess for Garry. Thank you Lex and Garry!

[@CherufeBG]

Interesting whether Garry's thinking has changed on what falls under closed or open systems now with the advent of GPT-4 and Midjourney. They should do a other interview 😊

[@kevinmcdonaghscotland]

"Machines will always beat humans in closed systems" - insightful comment by Garry Kasparov. The way he reacts to the question of his loss against deep blue you can see he still hurts from that loss!