LIDL glider RC conversion - TWIN TURBO LIDL - Build Video

This is a LIDL chuck glider conversion into a twin motor RC plane. I call it the "TWIN TURBO LIDL". The time lapse build video will show you the complete build of a 7,99 EUR kids toy into a fast and highly maneuverable RC plane. With the video and my information below (parts list, plan, STL files) you can also build your own one. If you haven't got a LIDL glider just wait until around May/June where LIDL will have them on sale in the store and in their online shops ... every year!
Link to the flight video: • Flight Video - LIDL gl...
Links to my other LIDL glider conversion videos:
LIDL A-10: • The ultimate LIDL glid...
LIDL DEVIL: • Build Video - RC conve...
LIDL Version 1: • Pushing the LIDL Glide...
Specs:
Wingspan: 860mm
Length: 680mm
Wing area: 11.9 dm2
Weight (AUW): 580g (in my configuration)
RC functions: elevator, ailerons, motor, differential thrust
CG: 60mm from leading edge
My configuration:
Basic plane: LIDL Playtive Glider (2021 version)
Motor: 2x Graupner Ultra 2806 2300kv brushless motor (2206 stator)
Prop: 2x HQ 3-blade 5x4,3
Battery: SLS Quantum 1800mAh 3S 30C/60C
ESC: 2x Graupner Brushless Control + T 18 XT-60
Receiver: Graupner GR-12 HoTT, 6 channel
Servos: 3x Emax ES08D II
Other parts and material:
Carbon fiber tube 5 x 4mm
Carbon fiber rod 1 x 3mm
Piano wire 1,0mm for control rods
BBQ Skewer (bamboo)
Y-Cable XT-60 (homemade)
Servo extension 300mm
Clear packing tape: tesapack Packband "Crystal Clear"
Beech rod diameter 5mm for canopy locking
Plywood 1.5mm for canopy locking
Canopy Lock (Pichler Extron): extron.pichler.de/Canopy-Lock...
PU glue
Screws for attaching motors: M3x4mm
Stickers: d-c-fix vinyl silver (mat) and white (mat)
Painters tape (for making the markings): tesa Perfect
Painters tape blue (hot glue doesn't stick to it and doesn't melt it): tesa Malerband für Lacke
Link to plan: drive.google.com/file/d/1xRXu...
Link to free STL files for 3D printed parts (control horn, form part under powerpod): drive.google.com/file/d/1CPDR...
Link to powerpod (MT2206_16x19mm_Standard): www.thingiverse.com/thing:109...
Note: If you don't have a 3D printer you can easily make these parts from plywood and balsa wood
Note: This video is not sponsored. I only recommend the stuff I used and that worked well for me.
Tools:
Dremel 3000
Dremel Carving Bit (193) + Multipurpose Cutting Kit (565)
Dremel Multipurpose Carving Bit (561)
Cutting machine:
BROTHER ScanNCut SDX1000
Camera:
Sony HDR-CX730
Microphone:
Rode NTUSB

[@angryaardvark5011]

What a beautifully done build! I really enjoyed watching the process. Thanks for sharing!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot. Great that you enjoyed it!

[@av8za]

I finally learnt how to do canopy latches! Thanks for the building vlog. Some great techniques shown. Very clean build!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! It took me some evolution steps to come up with this canopy latch solution 😜

[@NDMCN]

i just stopped the video in 1. minute and bring my coffe to watch this artwork. Not only job is perfect it is also perfect to edit and record all this 2 week long video. my regards. perfect !

[@NDMCN]

I would suggest you to use 2 bladed propeller for more efficient flights also they will allow you to go faster with right 2 bladed propeller rather than 3 blade ones

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! Your comment saved my day 😊if you liked this build than have a look at the other build videos on my channel… and of course don‘t miss the flight video of the Twin Turbo Lidl.

[@bavarian_rc]

My initial thought for the 3 bladed props was to keep the diameter small and avoid breaking props at landing. But obviously breaking was never an issue with the flexible HQ props. Never thought about going back to a 2 blade prop. But you are right, efficiency will be better. Definitely worth a try.

[@NDMCN]

@@bavarian_rc there is too little gain between 2 and 3 blades at this diameters but we fly with 3 blades with drones mainly because of the feeling while doing sudden movements. Also at static thrust tests you will see there is not much difference in thrust but you will draw less amp from battery. İ also have my own lidl build with lion setup you can try 4s or 5s lion 18650 batteries if your esc allow you with this motor and 5" props for long flights but stick to the lipo for this kind of crazy flights, anyway still 4s would be great to watch hehe have a nice day

[@bavarian_rc]

4s? That would make this thing even more crazy 🤩🤣

[@sufysprojects2689]

The new version of the lidl glider looks so aerodynamic!

[@bavarian_rc]

Looks like the product designer noticed that us crazy RC builders like the Lidl gliders. The new version is much better in its aerodynamic design, has a wider fuselage which makes it easier to get all the electronics inside and has a reduced wing/hstab incidence which is better for RC

[@rc_air]

@@bavarian_rc yeah but it flies way worse!

[@bavarian_rc]

Really? I think the new 2021 version flies much better. Unfortunately the 2022 version is again the old one.

[@rc_air]

@@bavarian_rc we have been hanggliding with lidlgliders for a few years now.. the original is great for that but the new one really sucks... Feels and looks like the wing profile thickness has increased a lot which increases the overall resistance. With motorized versions you might not notice much difference

[@rc_air]

@@bavarian_rc yes I noticed the new 2022 one is the old one, bought a lot of them last week :-)

[@SlavaStels]

The cleanest Lild Glider build I've seen so far! BRAVO!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot. The effort was certainly worth it. It flies so well that I never go flying without it. It's close to 100 flights now.

[@modelmakingmaniacs8600]

Fantastic build, great ideas and precision.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Great that you liked it

[@1mikeb]

That's probably one of the nicest LIDL conversions I've seen, very clean. I like the 2 motor approach. I'm starting my own and will use many of your techniques, and 2 motors. I am building it much lighter, trying to keep it under 400g. I recommend cutting the packing tape off the ESCs to help with cooling. Looking forward to a flight video!

[@bavarian_rc]

Hey Mike thanks a lot! The twin setup is definitely a lot of fun (especially with the differential thrust). Will be interesting to see how the light weight approach works ... below 400g with twins could be a challenge. The cooling of the ESCs is still quite OK. The max. temp is around 65-70°C. I will have to see what happens during summer. If they get too hot I will test without the packing tape. Enjoy your Lidl build,

[@bavarian_rc]

Ahh, forgot to speak about the flight video... The video shots are all done, now I need to start the editing (which is always quite time consuming). If you can't wait just head over to my instagram account (bavarian.rc) to see some first flight video clips.

[@rcpmac]

The engineering and build quality is fab!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot mate!

[@free-birdrocker8809]

Wow! I thought about doing that to a chuck glider but had no idear where to start. Yours will fly great. Great Job!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks. I did some conversions before but this one turned out to be the best one yet. Flying it a lot! … and it all started with a 7,99€ chuck glider 😄

[@free-birdrocker8809]

@@bavarian_rc Not bad. Considering a bird at that size will cost ya $200 smackers, that's a great deal. Ill stay tuned in to see what's next on the menu. Tex..

[@bavarian_rc]

There are some projects in the pipeline. Next video will most probably be a build video of a small flying wing. Half way through the build by now.

[@free-birdrocker8809]

@@bavarian_rc Horten flying wing?😁Fingers crossed, Yeup i'll tune in and enjoy the build.

[@bavarian_rc]

Don’t wanna disappoint you but no Horten. But you‘ll see …

[@Nialija]

Thats the Mother of a clean build. Well done!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot!!!

[@everythingrc5652]

This build is so clean I would honestly buy it

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for this great feedback! What a funny idea to start a business… Lidl glider conversions for sale 😃😜

[@giorgioottaviani2841]

Very nice, very clean and clear explanation. Good job.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot!

[@diggiz22]

Wow Tidy job. Best conversion I've seen yet.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! It was super fun to build and it is super fun to fly!

[@antitheist9976]

Beautifully clean build, I especially liked the use of actual measurements and not just guesswork, also the use of the Dremel was a nice touch. Pleasure to watch 🙂

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot. I am more the accurate type of model builder… even on a chuck glider. It just doesn’t feel right to do things quick and dirty. Actually the dremel works pretty well. It just creates a big mess of foam bits and pieces 😂

[@antitheist9976]

@@bavarian_rc Same here, no point in a shoddy job, you do impressive work and I wish you the best for your future endeavours 💯🙂

[@bavarian_rc]

Next project is in the making ... video will follow soon. This time a tiny balsa flying wing

[@meljones7066]

Yes, nice clean build. I like it. Looking forward to flight video.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! I already had some flights with it and it works pretty well, just need to give it a bit more motor down thrust angle. Now all I need is better weather for getting some nice footage.

[@POCarton]

You are really good at free hand cutting with the dremel. I would have been all over the place. Nice work.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! The trick is the tape around and to make an small cut with the blade first. The dremel runs along the cut like on rails.

[@davidelliott5843]

@@bavarian_rc Also be careful which side of the cutter you use. Teeth cutting down into the job, will encourage it to dig into the work. Using the tool so it cuts upwards (away from the job) is less aggressive.

[@bavarian_rc]

You are certainly right. As it was only foam I was a bit lazy about this but still had to hold the dremel quite firmly.

[@droneclub1978]

very nice build! 🙌🏼

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks, great that you liked it!

[@cricketzone9846]

Very neat and clean work

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Great that you liked it!

[@paulbrouyere1735]

Nice build. I flew in the 80’s. Built about 10 or so. Technology wasn’t as light and evolved as it is now. Keep on with the good stuff!

[@bavarian_rc]

I started building and flying in the mid 80s. Later I stopped the hobby for about 25 years before to re-start in the age of light brushless motors and powerful Lipo batteries. So I know what you mean. Quite an evolution. Great that you liked my video! Cheers!

[@davidelliott5843]

Back in the 1980s, the problem was cost. Everything was SOOO expensive. Today's electronics have made the hobby/sport far more accessible

[@paulbrouyere1735]

@@davidelliott5843 True. It was expensive. But nowadays regulations have become so much more complicated. Watched a discussion about FPV today. Although there are circumstances why regulations may be strengthened, normal developers and inventors and model makers should be able to do like their grandfathers were doing: create.

[@bavarian_rc]

Yes it‘s a completely different world today with all the electronic gimmicks.

[@bavarian_rc]

@Paul Brouyere It‘s as always… some are doing bad things and everything gets regulated afterwards for ALL 🥲

[@juergenstelzer856]

Klasse Video, jetzt weiß ich wie ich meinen alten Twinstar modifizieren kann

[@bavarian_rc]

Gute Idee! Ich hab‘s im Video nicht erwähnt aber ich hab die Motoren mit Differential Thrust programmiert. Da kann man recht lustige Dinge machen wie zum Beispiel super schnelles Flachtrudeln und allerlei Überschläge. Bin gespannt wie gut das mit dem Twin Turbo Lidl geht.

[@MastaH0483]

Very clean built. Good job. I made a similar one, where I added a FPV cam into the nose. But because I used spare parts of my broken mini quad, it is totally underpowered. 😁 In comparison your plane will be a beast. 💪

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Yes it’s got plenty of power. Check out the flight video!

[@k1ortia]

That was a pure pleasure to watch. Iv got my hands on the smaller versions from a toy shop, but have not seen any of these bigger versions at Lidl near me at all. Great video

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks, great that you enjoyed watching! The Lidl gliders are on sale at Lidl only once per year around June, July or August depending on the country. There are 2 versions of the Lidl glider. The 2021 version (also called V2) which I used to build my Twin Turbo and the V1 (2022 and 2020 and before). The V2 I haven‘t found yet anywhere else, but the V1 is available from Jamara: jamara-shop.com/Pilo-XL-Foam-Hand-Launch-glider-EPP-wing-orange-fuselage-blue

[@k1ortia]

@@bavarian_rc Cheers mate, i shall take a look and see if i can purchase a few. Keep those video,s coming. their great.

[@k1ortia]

@@bavarian_rc Hi, iv just checked that site out, and registered. found the glider. but there is no option to make any purchases. do you know how to make a purchase on there? cheers

[@bavarian_rc]

Seems they only sell B2B. Try searching for „Pilo XL“. I also found it on Amazon www.amazon.de/Jamara-460485-Schaumwurfgleiter-unzerstörbar-Höhenleitwerks/dp/B08JVG4RP3/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1TD7Q5NCZARLL&keywords=pilo+xl+flieger&qid=1662851427&sprefix=pilo+xl%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-4

[@MrYeshwanthln]

Excellent build

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks man!

[@Jetseb89]

I'm impressed by the quality of the transformation work - well done. I'm going to have to find one before the sun comes out ;)

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! Go get one for yourself, it’s really a simple and quick build and so much fun to fly. Did you also see my flight video?

[@Jetseb89]

@@bavarian_rc Yes, I watched it and it finally made me want to get on with the project :=)

[@bavarian_rc]

😁👍🏻

[@JustfourPrint]

Wow soviel Mühe in das Projekt investiert. Respekt. Sehr saubere Arbeit. 👍

[@bavarian_rc]

Vielen Dank! Bei mir muss es halt immer sauber gebaut sein. Da kann ich nicht aus meiner Haut. 😃

[@paulcox3229]

Thanks for this brilliantly well presented conversion video. Just completed the conversion myself and hoping to maiden tomorrow.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for your positive feedback. Keep my fingers crossed for your maiden! I still fly my Twin Turbo Lidl a lot. It has around 150 flights already. Greetings from Bavaria 🙌

[@paulcox3229]

@@bavarian_rc . Good afternoon from the UK 👋. I’m pleased to report that the maiden flight was a great success. Very little trim required and superb handling. Could I please ask what percentage of differential thrust you have programmed? I’ve started at 25%, but think I could dial in more. Thanks again for posting your video cataloguing the conversion. I really appreciate the effort that this must have taken you.

[@bavarian_rc]

That‘s great news! I actually went quite crazy with the differential thrust and used 85%. This allows for these weird flat spins. To enter the flat spin I usually pull up vertically, then reduce thrust to about 50%, wait a moment until the plane has slowed down and then slam in full nose down and full left aileron. About 1 second later I add full differential thrust to the right still keeping full down and full left aileron. The plane stays in the flat spin as long as you keep these control inputs. My longest flat spin was like 20 seconds. Thanks again for your feedback. That‘s the strongest motivation for me to continue producing such content.

[@paulcox3229]

@@bavarian_rc Excellent. I thought I needed more differential, but didn’t appreciate just how much! Will tweak my Tx parameters immediately 😉. Thank you so much for walk through for entering the flat spin too. I don’t have another flying slot until 2024 now (no too long), but will be sure to update you on progress. Good fun this hobby isn’t it? Merry Christmas from the small village of Bisley, Surrey. Paul. 🧑‍🎄

[@bavarian_rc]

At the moment I am also not flying a lot due to either bad weather or the fact that the time before Christmas is always pretty busy. Sometimes I just strap my Twin Turbo to my backpack and take it with me on a Sunday afternoon family walk to do 1 or 2 flights (have a look at my Instagram account to see how that looks like). It always guarantees some suprised looks of other people seeing me walk by with a toy plane strapped to my back. For me this is the best hobby in the world. I am trying to get my boy into the hobby and we are currently building together his first own RC plane. I try to do what my father did with me when I was young. Keep me updated on your further progress and if you want, send me a foto of your Lidl (my mail address is in the channel impressum). I would really love to see how it looks like. I wish you as well a merry Christmas and great flying in 2024. Cheers, Robert.

[@alexalexandre1574]

Awesome! Subscribed! Thanks for sharing!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Great that you liked it! … and thanks for subscribing 😃

[@phil_42_]

Sehr sauber gebaut. Bei mir muss immer alles schön sauber und perfekt werden :) Ich denke besser kann man es nicht umsetzen. Danke für das Video. Ich werde mich an deinem orientieren, nur mit fpv. Ich hoffe das wird ähnlich gut. Grüße aus dem Norden

[@bavarian_rc]

Vielen Dank! Da haben wir genau den gleichen Ansatz… weil pfuschen kann ja jeder 😂 Da hab ich keine Zweifel dass Deiner auch gut performed. Ich fliege meinen sehr oft. Der ist klein, handlich und geht wie Hölle. Macht einfach nur Spaß. Schöne Grüße aus dem Süden!

[@shreyabag1332]

Wow A nice version glider 👍👍

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Also flies fantastic!

[@aeromodelismoamateur7477]

Esto definitivamente es un trabajo profesional, felicitaciones y un gran saludo desde Chile

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! Great that you liked it. All the best from Germany to Chile!

[@jeromeassauw6147]

This is awesome. So good 🎉👏

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! It was fun to build and is still fun to fly ... each and every time 😀

[@joehart4370]

Well done .looks the part 👏

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

A top build and a very clear and informative video of it. I don't know what your normal day job is mate, but if it is not in the teaching field then the world is missing out! 🙂

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot for this fantastic feedback! Makes me feel a bit proud ☺️ My normal day job is far from teaching! But I am father of 3 kids… that kinda qualifies me as „teacher“ even if the success rate is a bit questionable 😜

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

@@bavarian_rc LOL. Give it time. Soon enough it will be the grandkids (et al) teaching Poppi "how to drive!" 😜😁

[@bavarian_rc]

So true!!!

[@maroshb]

Thanks for video, nice!!! I did my Lidl Twin Turbo.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks, I am happy that you liked my video. Did you build your Lidl with the same design that I used? If yes, how do you like flying it? It is still one of my favorite planes. Close to 100 flights now!

[@maroshb]

@@bavarian_rc I finished it only yesterday, I tried to do the same, only I used a magnet on the cabin. when the weather is suitable, I'll try how it flies. I also want to try stabilization in the receiver. I would send a photo, too bad it can't be done here.

[@bavarian_rc]

I would really love to see your version. If you are on Instagram you could send me a message via my account (@bavarian.rc) or if you would like to send me a mail then check out my KZbin Channel Info. There is a link to my "Impressum" where you can find my mail adress. I have been flying my Twin Turbo just yesterday and even with cold fingers it was so much fun. Wish you luck for the maiden flight.

[@youtubecreativ]

Best instruction I´ve ever been seen!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot!

[@christian5660]

Mega gut gemacht💪🏻👌🏻

[@bavarian_rc]

Danke!

[@adcdsasa6526]

Grat job man

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊

[@manoman0]

"Hi. What do you fly?" "A LIDL Plus Twin Turbo". "Oh......"

[@bavarian_rc]

🤣🤣🤣

[@andiansukmara]

Very very very professional tools

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks buddy!

[@vancoppenolle11]

Nice job

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!!!

[@pressloh]

Schön sauber verarbeitet🥰

[@bavarian_rc]

Danke! Fliegt auch echt gut 👍🏻

[@pressloh]

@@bavarian_rc ....hast Du schon ein Video dazu? , Bitte Link schicken.

[@bavarian_rc]

Leider noch nicht… dauert noch etwas

[@pressloh]

@@bavarian_rc ok🤩

[@angelbernardo7841]

Excelente trabajo...😜👍👏👏👏

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! Great that you liked it 😃

[@MyAgriffith]

Brilliant!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks mate! It was really fun to build it

[@Ouch.]

Very nice!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😃

[@wizard_techie]

Great video. I built a very similar Lidl twin a few years ago and it is still flying well and frequently now. I mounted my motors above the wing which seems good so it will be interesting to see if yours pitches up under power...

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! I had some pitch up effects under power at the beginning. After some flights I found a motor down thrust of 2,5 degrees working quite well to compensate the effect. Another issue with mounting the motors under the wing is that the props are touching the ground when landing. By using the HQ props which have some flexibility I managed to avoid broken props. Check out the flight video to see how it behaves in the air: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5CrZ6aMmLKCntk

[@eskayler66]

Very nice! I take years....

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊🙌

[@gerolikos282]

Φίλε μπράβο έριξες πολύ δουλειά

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Great that you liked it

[@federicograss9794]

Yo hubiese instalado los Becs en la gacela atras del motor para que refrigeren.. Ingeniosa adaptacion!!!!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! For better cooling you could certainly put the ESCs into the nacelles. There were 2 reasons why I didn't do it. First: The ESCs don't get too hot. The max. temperature is typically around 60°C. Second: This thing is pretty much nose heavy. So every gram I could get behind the center of gravity (CG is at the position of the carbon tube) was helping me to avoid adding more weight in the tail. Greetings from Bavaria!

[@martinb.770]

For fine slices into the foam I'd prefer a soldiering iron with temperature control, which makes less fuzz, though, depending on the used glue (epoxy or CA) the dremel result might work better. Heat glue has some advantages, but only with specific materials.

[@bavarian_rc]

The mess when working with the dremel is not as bad as it looks. The vacuum cleaner does the job. Maybe next time I try my hot knife. Should work similar to a soldering iron. On this type of foam I prefer hot glue or PU glue. With CA or Epoxy the results were not as good.

[@dutchloveRC]

very cool

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@rubenburgos6]

Very clean build, I would use foam safe CA on a lot of areas to reduce weight, slow down with the hot glue lol. Nice build!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! You are possibly right that I could be a little bit less generous with hot glue 😂 Nevertheless hot glue easily fills gaps which means I don't have to cut too precise (like for the carbon spar). But in other areas foam safe CA glue could easily be used 👍

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Because these gliders are made of very flexible EPP not stiff and brittle EPS, using a hard and brittle adhesive like CA (Superglue) would NOT be a good choice. As the foam flexes the CA will crack away from it. Also "Foam Safe" glues are for EPS - with EPP you can use things like rubber/contact cements which contain toluene. Using them on EPS would give a gooey mess instantly! Provided you make fairly neat fitting joints and scrape off any extrusions, hot glue makes a good and reasonably light job. Also 1 slight problem with EPP foamies is that there is often mold-release compound still coating the outside. This can make it difficult to get glues/tapes/adhesives to stick properly. You can try cleaning the mating surfaces with isopropyl alcohol or roughing them up with sandpaper but generally a good hot application of hot glue will slightly melt into the foam and produce a really solid bond. And speaking of flexibility, you will notice that the builder has opted for slightly flexible props rather than the very stiff (and brittle) props used on racing quads. These are a little less efficient than the stiff ones but will take a LOT MORE heavy landings before they need replacing! 😉

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for giving a lot better answer than I did 😜 I didn’t think of the effect of the brittle CA on the flexible EPP. 👍 Cheers!

[@rubenburgos6]

@theoztreecrasher I have build a few of these, I used very little hot glue, some foam safe CA and epoxy, never have an issue.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

@@rubenburgos6 I don't doubt what you say - BUT perhaps you don't crash your planes as much as us Old Farts do! 🤔😜😁

[@mani8883]

CONGRATS !!! Fantastic job. I'm going to try it myself. I`ve just got my glider to-day and will be gathering all the staff to convert my Lidl glider. TKS very much for your beautifull and enyoyeful build. Keep it up !!!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for your nice feedback. I am still waiting for the gliders to return to the Lidl shops. Should arrive during August. I did already a lot of conversions but my Twin Turbo is by far the best one. It is so much fun flying it and the performance is really great. If you have any questions or remarks during your build don’t hesitate to post another comment. Cheers from Bavaria

[@gogus357]

Awesome 👌

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊

[@gogus357]

@@bavarian_rc i have to tell you watching your video you inspired me to build this little one, i saw some other videos on youtube how to convert this baby into RC but none was as interesting as yours so thanks a lot for your video and willingness to share it with the rest of the world May the Force be with you 🖖 MfG aus NRW

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! It is positive feedback like yours that motivates me to go on making such content. The Twin Turbo Lidl is really the best Lidl conversion I have made so far. I fly it a lot as it performs just amazingly well. In case you haven't seen the flight video, have a look at it (kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5CrZ6aMmLKCntk). You'll understand what I mean. Who would believe that a 7,99€ kids toy would fly like that. I have more than 100 flights with it and I never go flying without it. Schöne Grüße aus Bayern!

[@sufysprojects2689]

No way!! I'm building the same thing!! Twin lidl glider!!

[@bavarian_rc]

Ha, that‘s funny! What motors do you plan to put on it?

[@sufysprojects2689]

@@bavarian_rc 1407 3600kv brother hobby

[@sufysprojects2689]

I used thin carbon strips to reinforce everything, and used gorilla glue/ugu por to glue them in. Why did you take out the dihedral? What benefits does it give you?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for the info

[@bavarian_rc]

The dihedral leads to a self stabilizing effect. I was looking for high maneuverability with very high roll rates. The dihedral would counteract to this. If you would go for a very light thermal glider you would want to have dihedral for stabilizing the plane while circling in the thermals.

[@dronepilot260rc]

I will definitely be copying this video 😎🤙

[@bavarian_rc]

Hey man I hope you will only copy the setup and not my video LoL 😂

[@dronepilot260rc]

@@bavarian_rc I'm not that good to copy the video but the setup yes 👌

[@bavarian_rc]

Enjoy your build 🤘

[@aryacreative]

Smart idea,,i like your idea,,,👍👍👍

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot. Also check out the flight video. This things is so much fun to fly.

[@aryacreative]

@@bavarian_rc ok,,i make aircraft from styrofoam

[@aryacreative]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXLLpXiZeMh0na8

[@bavarian_rc]

That flies really nicely! Good job!

[@aryacreative]

@@bavarian_rc thanks 🙏🙏🙏

[@grakka72]

Nice clean build.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!

[@Jagger-uk8ff]

CG is my concern other than that very excellent build

[@bavarian_rc]

Yes, this thing is a bit nose heavy. Therefore I moved the elevator servo to the back and also installed my GPS Logger close to the tail. With that setup it balances with just 5g more of balancing weight glued to the tail.

[@elektron2kim666]

Fooling around with my first ESC/BEC/motors and propellers. I'm getting some ideas with the extra servos I need for control. My first experiment will be mounted on a plastic truck (RC) and might include a Raspberry Pi Pico with code for PWM throttle and maybe temperature. I'm a bit stuck with some details and it's not included in any videos.

[@bavarian_rc]

Hi, that sounds interesting but hearing Raspberry Pi indicates that this beyond my skills 😂 Nevertheless I‘ll give it a try. Where are you stuck currently?

[@user-pw7ct8nr6g]

Super!

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!

[@xianghu2594]

Very wonderful production sharing! I have seen the video of the test flight. Can you please make another introductory video after the final optimization? Very much looking forward to it! Can you also share the printed files of the motor base and rudder angle? Thanks again!🎉🎉

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks. Actually there was no further optimization necessary. It flies just perfectly. The link to the STL files for 3D printing is in the video description. Also you can find a plan and more detailed info there

[@stevegreen2432]

Dis almost the same thing last year---it will fly well!

[@bavarian_rc]

Oh yes 👍🏻

[@andrslnks4804]

Sehr geil Oida. I bren mi nua immer mid dea Bistoin

[@bavarian_rc]

Servus! Super dass es dia gfällt. Kenn I, koi Projekt ohne Brondblosn 🤣

[@mickmolloy5964]

Clean.........

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊

[@manoman0]

Gute Begleitmusik.

[@bavarian_rc]

Danke!

[@JoseLopez-kn1re]

Cool 😎

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!

[@jasomkubo]

@Bavarian RC And you should fun it on 2 batteries or one because there are two connectors.

[@bavarian_rc]

I use one 1800mAh battery that is connected with a Y-cable to both controllers

[@uaoptics]

Thanks for video, could you please clarify where you put such big battery? I would like to be similar one.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks for your feedback. The battery is installed right underneath the black canopy (together with the receiver). You could have a look at my Instagram account (instagram.com/bavarian.rc/) there I posted some pictures of the battery installation (posted in May 2022). If that doesn't work for you then check my mail adress in the channel impressum (in the channel info) and drop me an email. I will then send you pictures of my battery installation.

[@danratsnapnames]

FYI if you coat that wing with box tape, you wont have to put a reinforcing rod into it, and it smooths out the wing. if you layer the tape to overlap towards the rear, you create more lift due to the stair casing affect of the layering. i used to do this with gliders and mount 0.49's on them and fly them during the early 2000's.

[@bavarian_rc]

I am using packing tape a lot on my foam board builds to reinforce them. Never thought about using it on a foamy except for covering things like ESC in the wing. Need to try this. Do the layers work like a kind of KFm airfoil?

[@danratsnapnames]

@@bavarian_rc it can if you layer it so that the top stepps towards the leading edge and the bottom steps towards the rear of the wind. you'll cause the top the drag and the bottom to slip. which in turn causes lift. also if you pull the tape while setting it onto the wing, you'll cause a slight tension on the wing, then when you do the 2nd side it will pull it back, which causes the wing to become very rigid.

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot. Quite interesting effect. The way you explain it makes totally sense. Tension on both sides will in effect make it totally strong. I will definitely try it 👍

[@danratsnapnames]

@@bavarian_rc another tip for those foam gliders, before you tape it, Sand it with an 80 grit sand paper.. you can alter the shape and smooth out the surface, and it will help the tape to stick really good.

[@danratsnapnames]

@@bavarian_rc also i have to say, that your hatch idea, with the easy release was a really good one that i have not thought of.. which is very rare, seeing that i have been doing rc planes since the early 80's.. :)

[@mister_ginting]

you say amazing

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks

[@TinoAlvarez2]

Great job, congratulations. Graupner Ultra 2806 2300kv motors are no longer for sale. What other engines would you recommend? Thank you very much

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Yes, luckily I still had some of the Graupner motors available. They work really well. I haven't tested any alternative, but I guess any other 2206 2300kv motor will work as long as it can take 3S. This is one that I found: Holybro Brushless QAV250 Motor (www.mybotshop.de/Holybro-Brushless-QAV250-Motor) - also available in CW and CCW which is quite nice as it compensates the torque on a twin. This one could also work: DYS FIRE FPV Racing Motor 2206-2300kV (www.rcheli-store.de/Quadcopters/FPV-Racer/FPV-Racter-Motors/DYS-FIRE-FPV-Racing-Motor-2206-2300kV.htm?shop=rcheli_en&SessionId=&a=article&ProdNr=DYS-FIRE-2300&t=15578&c=32452&p=32452). I hope this helps.

[@123LOTAN]

Nice build and look great! How it's fly? Do you have any video?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks!!! Flies fantastic. Just had to give the motors 2.5 degrees more down-thrust. I already made some flights with onboard camera. Flight video will come but will need a bit more time. Check my Instagram account bavarian.rc … I will upload some clips in the next days

[@mrsmith4662]

A job well done - very neat, especially with the lack of any space in the airframe (being solid foam). I would have liked to have seen a video of it flying. The motors look very powerful, possibly less 'poke' and no need for the carbon spars?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! Check out my flight video: LIDL glider RC conversion - TWIN TURBO LIDL - Build Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4HWeGmhl8l4l6s The Power / Weight ratio is almost 2:1 … so going vertical is pure fun, just like the endless flat spins. I wouldn’t try without the carbon spar.

[@davidelliott5843]

The original foam is quite bendy. It needs the carbon spars to avoid it folding up or just steering itself beyond the range of the controls.

[@bavarian_rc]

Yes fully right! Without the carbon it would be too floppy.

[@mrsmith4662]

@@bavarian_rc Yes, I guess I'm going to have to buy some for my recent Lidl purchases.

[@bavarian_rc]

You won’t regret

[@stevejohnson3991]

Excellent video! Where did you get the pliers that bend the pushrod ends?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! I used Irvine Super Z-Bend Plier w/Nav.Pin. I found them in a German online shop but they are also available in the UK: themodelshop.net/irvine-super-z-bend-plier-wnavpin-168929-p.asp

[@SharneAndrews]

Great clean build. Liked the idea for using tape to create markings. Did you 3d print the motor mounts, or buy?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! The tape has a double function. First - you can better see the markings without leaving traces on the material. Second - when I want to mill along a line I make a small cut with the blade first and then use the Dremel with the milling cutter. It perfectly runs along the line and the tape prevents it from going all over the place. I 3d printed the motor mounts. Found them on thingiverse. The link is in the video description.

[@melcrose]

One sheet foam glider. Build in an afternoon.

[@bavarian_rc]

👍

[@jasomkubo]

Hi, @Bavarian RC What contoller do you recommend to use for this build? The cheap one.

[@bavarian_rc]

That depends a bit on your motor setup. I used 18A controllers that I already had lying around. They get warm during flight but not more than 70 degrees. So no need form a bigger ESC but I would also not take a smaller one. I would say any cheap 18 to 20A controller would be fine

[@jasomkubo]

@Bavarian RC And for the servos you must buy how many normal and how many reverse?

[@bavarian_rc]

In case I need to reverse a servo I do this in the settings of the transmitter. If your transmitter doesn‘t have this feature you can still use normal servos and just rotate the installation position if needed

[@debesaz4434]

very nice clean but how you land and not broke the plane? your propeller touch the ground

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! You are right, the props touch the ground when landing. The HQ props I use have some flexibility and don‘t break. Even after more than 60 flights with my Twin Turbo I didn‘t have a single broken prop.

[@tomheetderks9997]

This is so cool- I'd heard of these conversions, and tried finding one at a Virginia Lidl store, but maybe it's a seasonal thing. Anyone know where or if it's available from Amazon or other retail?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! The Lidl gliders are on sale at Lidl only once per year. In Europe this is around June, July or August depending on the country. There are 2 versions of the Lidl glider. The 2021 version (also called V2) which I used to build my Twin Turbo and the V1 (2022 and 2020 and before). The V2 I haven‘t found yet anywhere else, but the V1 is available from Jamara where it is called Pilo XL: www.amazon.de/JAMARA-Schaumwurfgleiter-2in1-Pilo-orange/dp/B08JVGJNB6?th=1

[@tomheetderks9997]

@@bavarian_rc awesome! appreciate the response, and subbed your channel- neat stuff 😁

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot for joining 😃

[@_____p17_____7]

Hey its a great video. I want to ask you few questions about the Glider

[@_____p17_____7]

Like can we collaborate as I am member of AERO club

[@bavarian_rc]

Just sent you a mail answer…

[@wattananalae5412]

สุดยอดมาก🎉😊

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊 🙌🏻

[@maTheob13]

The lidl glider is no longer on the market and I would like to do the same thing as you to test a twin engine glider. where can I find a glider with the same dimensions? congratulations for your work

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks! The Lidl gliders are on sale at Lidl only once per year around June, July or August depending on the country. There are 2 versions of the Lidl glider. The 2021 version (also called V2) which I used to build my Twin Turbo and the V1 (2022 and 2020 and before). The V2 I haven‘t found yet anywhere else, but the V1 is available from Jamara: jamara-shop.com/Pilo-XL-Foam-Hand-Launch-glider-EPP-wing-orange-fuselage-blue

[@aeromael4707]

What a super built ! But I have one question, where do you put your battery ?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks a lot! The battery is installed in the cavity in the front of the fuselage together with the receiver. I just posted a picture of the installed battery on my Instagram account (bavarian.rc)

[@tzachus]

Dear sir great job. Can you please send me the link for the dremel that you use?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks 😊 I have a Dremel 3000: www.dremel.com/de/de/p/dremel-3000-f0133000ju

[@robvanscheijndel]

under the motto: everything is a semi-finished product, let's make something out of it.

[@bavarian_rc]

🤣🤣🤣 love your comment!

[@xianghu2594]

Sehr wunderbare Produktionsfreigabe! Ich habe das Video vom Testflug gesehen. Könnten Sie bitte nach der endgültigen Optimierung noch ein Einführungsvideo machen? Ich freue mich sehr darauf! Können Sie auch die gedruckten Dateien der Motorbasis und des Ruderwinkels weitergeben? Danke noch einmal!

[@bavarian_rc]

No sure if you saw my other answer to one of your comments. The design didn't require any more updates. The link to the STL files for 3D printing are in the video description

[@dansolomon2428]

How did you wire up the receiver to get differential thrust and 3 servos to a 6 channel receiver and how did you configure the transmitter for this aswell

[@bavarian_rc]

Hi, the wiring on the receiver is as follows: 1: Right ESC, 2: Left Aileron, 3: Elevator, 4: Right Aileron, 5: Telemetry, 6: Left ESC, in the receiver map channel 5 -->4 (to have the right aileron on 4). Configuration of the transmitter: Mix channel 1 --> 6 (curve: -100% to +100%) (for throttle), Mix channel 4 --> 1 (curve: -85% to +85%), Mix channel 4 --> 6 (curve: +85% to -85%). You might need to invert the curves if the wrong motor is spinning when applying rudder input. Be careful when trying this - always remove the props! It was a pain until I got this working for the first time but finally it works. Hope this helps!

[@dansolomon2428]

@@bavarian_rc yeah that's really helpful and I know your twin motor design is pretty quick but do you think there would be enough thrust with just one on the front

[@bavarian_rc]

One motor will also work fine. Have a look at my other Lidl glider conversion videos. There is also one with a single motor in the nose

[@tigerjenks]

Are you going to fly it?

[@bavarian_rc]

Sure! Flies like a charm. Check out the Flight Video: Flight Video - LIDL glider RC conversion - TWIN TURBO LIDL kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5CrZ6aMmLKCntk

[@taxigalaxi]

I hope all components are availible at Lidl!

[@bavarian_rc]

I fear not but it would certainly boost Lidl to the next level 😂

[@SentamilSelvan94]

I’m a bit confused by the new German model aircraft regulation. This build is about 580g. Does it mean I have to get a certification before I fly this plane? The regulation say that I don’t need certification for something less than 250g. In that case I would try to build something with smaller battery and single motor. But again, can someone clarify if my understanding is right?

[@bavarian_rc]

As a simplified view: Every model that is heavier than 250g needs to have your eID (your registration) attached to it. If your model is heavier than 2kg or you are flying higher than 120m above ground you need a proof of knowledge ("Kenntnisnachweis"). For a complete overview check out this site: www.dmfv.aero/rund-ums-fliegen/einfach-sicher-fliegen/

[@MASSKA]

long long does it fly with a 1800mah battery? or did you use another battery?

[@bavarian_rc]

My average flight time with a 1800mAh 3s battery is between 5:30 and 6:00 minutes depending on the amount of full throttle phases.

[@dude8098]

Whats the name of this thing on the dremel at 2:21 Great vid 👍 😁

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks man! The thing on the dremel is called „Multipurpose Cutting Kit (565)“. I use it together with a „Carving Bit (193)“

[@paolopaolo2735]

Très bon montage et transformation bien expliquée. Mais ça vole au final ? J'aurais bien aimé le voir faire quelques loopings...

[@bavarian_rc]

Merci! If you haven’t seen my flight video you missed the best part 😃 Here is the link: Flight Video - LIDL glider RC conversion - TWIN TURBO LIDL kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5CrZ6aMmLKCntk

[@peterb_one]

Tolles Video. Und wo ist der Schwerpunkt bei dem Flieger??

[@bavarian_rc]

Danke. Der Schwerpunkt ist 60mm hinter der Flügelvorderkante. Schau einfach mal in die Videobeschreibung, da gibt‘s noch mehr Infos und einen Link zu meinem Plan.

[@VladKuzba]

Beautiful build. Do the motors have to be spinning in opposite direction to each other?

[@juliansonderegger1602]

technically no but it will end up rolling better on one side

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks man! Spinning in opposite directions is eliminating any torque effect. That‘s why I always use opposite directions. Apart from that I think with both in the same direction would still be OK… Never tried.

[@VladKuzba]

Thanks for your answers, guys. I only have two same motors.

[@bavarian_rc]

That should also work, no worries

[@davidelliott5843]

The DeHavilland Mosquito from WW2 was built from resin bonded plywood and power by two 1500 bhp Merlin engines. For quite some time the were the fastest aircraft of WW2. However the engines both turned the same way so pilots had to be extremely careful on takeoff. Many were lost due to the torque effect. The US P-38 had two Allison V12 engines but turbocharged to make similar power to Merlins. These turned in opposite directions for stability. I believe they rotated inwards (clockwise on left when viewed from the front). It would be interesting to see this model fly with inwards, outwards and same direction motors.

[@MuRaT_C]

Super Umsetzung!!! Wo liegt der CG bei deinem Modell? Danke!

[@bavarian_rc]

Danke! Der Schwerpunkt liegt 60mm hinter der Vorderkante des Flügels. Schau einfach mal in die Videobeschreibung, da sind noch mehr Infos.

[@HDCairnsAviation]

I wish I had the knowledge to do this

[@bavarian_rc]

Actually it is not so difficult… if you are not yet into RC building and flying then just start with a beginner kit and then step up. Doing a chuck glider conversion is finally not so difficult. If it goes wrong it is only foam.

[@Plus_Minus_Null]

Hallo Bavarian RC, kannst du mir sagen wie ich auf den linken Stick "Gas UND Störklappen" drauf bekomme für einen Motor-Segler.. Von 1 bis 100 soll er Gas geben und runter von -1 bis -100 soll er die Störklappen rauslassen. Ich weiss nicht wie ich das umsetzen kann mit zum Beispiel einem 6 Kanal Spektrum empfänger ..... kannst du mir da helfen deine Videos sind absolut informativ , lehrreich und perfekt geschnitten danke und gruss david

[@bavarian_rc]

Erst mal danke für dein positives Feedback. Freut mich sehr! Nun zu Deiner Frage: ich kenne mich mit Spektrum Anlagen nicht aus aber prinzipiell würde ich das so machen: linken Stick auf einen nicht benutzten Kanal zuweisen. Diesen Kanal mit 2 separaten Mischern auf jeweils Motor und Störklappe mischen. Einmal mit ner Kurve die von 1 bis 100 geht. Unter 1 also keine Mischung. Und der andere Mischer der von -1 bis -100 geht und über 0 keine Mischung hat. Ist etwas kompliziert müsste aber gehen vorausgesetzt die Spektrum Anlage kann solche freien Mischer. Ich würde aber eher Motor auf dem Stick lassen und die klappen über einen 3-Stufen Schalter steuern. So hab ich das bei mir. Manche legen auch den Motor auf den 3 Stufen Schalter und die Klappen auf den Stick. Hoffe das hilft dir weiter

[@Plus_Minus_Null]

@@bavarian_rc tausend dank .... so mache ich das..... und zur not lege ich die Störklappen auf einen 3wege schalter..... danke

[@bavarian_rc]

Viel Erfolg!

[@ernie5229]

Excellent build. Totally LAME that you didn't show flight footage. Why did you make the motor fairings so aerodynamically bad? I thought you wanted it to go fast?

[@bavarian_rc]

Thanks. Don’t worry, there is a flight video: Flight Video - LIDL glider RC conversion - TWIN TURBO LIDL kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5CrZ6aMmLKCntk For the motor mount I went the easy way and used something I found on thingiverse. It looks a bit bulky but actually the front face is just slightly bigger than the motor. Still quite fast 😜