My PC keeps turning off... - Tech Support Walkthrough

[@LinusTechTips]

Since it keeps coming up, the ASUS BIOS doesn't 'detect' certain changes when saving and quitting - In this case, anything in the "AMD CBS" menu, which is where C-State control lives on this board. The changes were indeed saved. ASUS, if you're reading this, please fix this. It's the one thing I don't like about your firmware. -AY

[@riseisrising]

That is sad

[@kupokinzyt]

Signed, Anthony Tech Tips!

[@Lawma98]

Thanks for the clarification I was thinking that exact thing

[@dicknoseturdwaffle5305]

Please pin this!

[@GarbanzoBeansFan]

have a lovely vacation Linus

[@MeTaLCivil]

As someone who works in IT and often does tech support I got to say these types of videos are priceless. Would love to see more teaching videos like this

[@SpaceRanger187]

wheres a good spot to get download to fix window freeze..freezes up before i can even click the start menu

[@teatime9198]

@@SpaceRanger187 almost all software & windows issues are solved by reinstalling windows, yes it's tedious but it's FAR easier than trying to troubleshoot software issues.

[@ezg8448]

@@teatime9198 - A bandaid solution, but an all too common necessary one.

[@doodles113]

I´m a big fan of Anthony´s videos too....especially the informational/entertaining mix..

[@reidar4210]

imagine working it and not knowing these things lmao

[@berke2336]

Anytime Anthony is hosting, I learn an unreasonable amount of new niche information I had no intention of learning. He is a gem.

[@nothisandthat7560]

Love when Anthony is hosting. Very good vibes and very good explications.

[@racejay]

Indeed.

[@LPFreak64]

@@pendaco Anthony is the Bob Ross of Tech. I Love It!

[@Matazuma]

He has so much knowledge us peasants must hide our faces from his brilliance

[@2ndToLast501]

Anthony is based

[@FoolishBaseball]

Awesome presentation, Anthony. I envy your ability to make complicated things so straightforward and easy to understand.

[@lemonzest8650]

waiting for the "tech savvy" person i don't think i need to elaborate more than that

[@TheMoonBoots]

Bailey's got some taste in tech

[@samuel96860]

Thanks baseball

[@zRhid]

Yo wtf Bailey and Linus crossover?

[@FunBoysGaming]

I love the guy. I‘m just worried about his health. Someone gift him an Apple Watch.

[@dalektrekkie]

I'm loving the Anthony appreciation in these comments. It's been awesome to watch him do more and more videos and get more comfortable being on camera. Easily one of the best LTT members for explaining complex information without giving a lecture or talking down to the audience.

[@martin-1965]

And with Linus on vacation we should hopefully see MORE Anthony vidz - yay !!! (no disrespect to Linus natch)

[@chozen_666]

Agreed !!!!!

[@funkytransport]

he's the man

[@DOSdaze]

I've been professionally servicing Windows machines since 3.0, and this is some of the best fundamental troubleshooting tips I've seen. Anthony is a sharp dude with a great demeanor.

[@fuzzyhair321]

I looked what windows 3.0 was and damn not a lot of stuff going on there

[@trashcleaner]

@@fuzzyhair321 That's because you were not really born.

[@jeandupond9605]

@@fuzzyhair321 because apparently the gui determines system architecture...

[@fuzzyhair321]

@@trashcleaner I remember the very old Macintosh computers, my dad's very old laptop had a similar operating system. So I'm not entirely ignorant of it but hot damn things came a long way

[@batsonelectronics]

3.0, the first actual decent version of Windows. 1 and 2 were crap. 3.0 was good but not much driver support, fixed when 3.1 came out. Win 2000 is still my favorite but 3.11 was decent as well, using DR DOS instead of MS Dos. I hated 95 and 98 and the 16 IRQ limit sucked for gamers and power users running multiple modems and scanners/printers. Win 2000 fixed that with 256 IRQs and I loved it for that reason.

[@Hazard4K]

Everyone who watches LTT videos regularly knows anthony is by far the company's greatest asset when it comes to doing technical videos and articulating things in ways that can convey the proper message to both the pro and the laymen. Btw looks like ya got some color on vacation anthony -- well deserved :D

[@KingKong-xp6so]

The dumbest statement. Let some data scientists come. He won't even be a consideration

[@KingKong-xp6so]

@@Jtzkb Could you fix your eyes, please?

[@glassbreaks99]

@@KingKong-xp6so can you fix you attitude please?

[@RhizometricReality]

@@KingKong-xp6so lucky for you that KZbin disabled dislikes because you'd get ratioed. Anthony is great.

[@KingKong-xp6so]

@@RhizometricReality Emtyhead, comment's dislike wasn't since the beginning

[@Hrethgir]

Anthony, I remember when they started getting you in front of the camera, and it was easy to tell you were uncomfortable. But now, I really look forward to seeing you, you've grown into the part and have so much info to share, keep up the good work!

[@noahlistgarten7832]

This video was absolutely excellent! 1) Love Anthony. 2) I've done a LOT of IT troubleshooting. This was a super succinct but also technically detailed guide. 3) I love that LMG can turn a broken office computer into content and revenue, whether or not this was staged (I am choosing to believe this wasn't staged and will ignore evidence to the contrary).

[@chaklee435]

@@triadwarfare Uhhhh if it's mutually beneficial, then where is the conflict in conflict of interest? Maybe you meant to say that the personal upgrades should be considered as part of his compensation, tax-wise. But that's not something you and I would know.

[@InformatrIIcks]

About 3), i'm going to say that it probably originated from a real issue, that the crew realised it could be turned into a good video while troubleshooting. So it's only half staged, for the purpose of filming and production quality.

[@i3l4ckskillzz79]

When someone like Linus calls someone else to troubleshoot his computer you know he is a genius. I really like Anthony seems like a really humble guy

[@TheNuclearGeek]

He's the kinda guy that can often go unappreciated at so many companies that have management that is "less than effective" (shitty)

[@XArticSpartanX]

lol Linus can't even install software on Linux. I think he can leave the trouble shooting to people who know what their doing

[@deadair32101]

you realize not everybody knows or cares to know anything about unix-likes right?

[@dmytrotkachenko2027]

@@XArticSpartanX Linux is a complicated OS, not many people with no prior experience of it will be able to install all the software correctly. Edit. Grammar

[@timothygibney159]

@@XArticSpartanX Funny Windows never seems to have the problems Linux has

[@Nebarus]

Apart from his expert IT knowledge, Anthony is a very good presenter both body language, language, structure and charisma wise. Always a pleasure to watch him making us smarter at tech :)

[@hritikburkule5006]

He thicc.

[@MRSeedle]

I always like all videos with Anthony, best vibes.

[@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson]

He has come a long way for sure

[@Afrosy19]

Anthony is my favorite person at LTT, NO CONTEST

[@TheNuclearGeek]

He's the kinda support guy we all wish we had. Knowledgeable about the subjects and he keeps you from getting upset because he's so damn calming and you just can't get mad at him.

[@YanYong]

Both of my AMD systems on the x570 platform have this random shutdown issue. Disabling the C state indeed solved the random power-off issue. Thanks a lot!!!

[@ChumlyFernando]

What board and agesa version are you on? My x570 Aorus Master has similar issues when running PBO with Curve Optimizer and this might push me back 😄

[@noelrakman9641]

Just bought an x570 hours ago and I constantly got the reboot issue. Testing if disabling c state will work

[@noelrakman9641]

It didn't fix it, I still have the random reboot

[@goku445]

@@ChumlyFernando Same here x570 aorus elite. It's been like this for the 3 years I had it, more or less. I got the MCE error and can't isolate the issue. Really damn frustrating... Inacceptable for computer hardware. I've never had such instability on my system since I set up computer about 20 years ago.

[@jussikankinen9409]

Too many OC

[@Pslamist]

More videos like this please. It feels like just hanging out with someone while they work on the computer, so they share a lot of extra information on the way, and all of it is helpful, and wouldn't come up otherwise. It's like sharing experience. Thanks guys! Enjoy your vacation, Linus!

[@swosheeplays9453]

Couldent agree more

[@Vixus7]

Anthony is the smartest guy on this channel. His ability to break down complex problems and clearly communicate to the viewers is unmatched. Why can’t all tech service be like him. Linus, give him a raise. He’s a keeper.

[@eric-.]

even in professional IT depts, only maybe 20% or less are as skilled and competent as Anthony. (that's my experience in over 20yrs in tech support, being in that small 20% group) The percentage of that 20% who are as articulate as Anthony is even less.

[@JerimiahMayle]

@@eric-. When i was taking my CompTIA class at my vocational school, my IT teacher was just a wiz. Knew everything and was able to help with hands on. But he was horrible at explaining things. He tried to help explain to me what VLANs are and how they work but I was lsot. As soon as he created a hands on project for me to do with VLANs, I understood it very well. So I've some people who are more teaching oriented need to give a more hands on approach and let the lesson and objectives explain themselves and he be there to guide us. I wish I knew more IT guys who are as articulate as Anthony. I know some peopel who are so much better than me (cuz I'm not the greatest obviuosly) who can get tasks done left and right but can't explain what they're doing for crap.

[@ATCrogerwilco]

That's pretty much every industry.

[@ATCrogerwilco]

only about 5-10 percent of people in operational IT teams are great at their job. They know and use industry best practices and sometimes even invent new ones. The next 25 to 30 percent know the best practices exist but struggle to adopt them. The remaining majority of working IT people don't even know operational best practices exist.

[@chaniem.5422]

This is the content KZbin needs, proper diagnosis and problem fixing would probably get you guys loads of views for days, and then I don't have to deal with my ears bleeding watching low quality videos on stuff like this when trying to find weird problems in given to fix here and there 😅

[@gorkskoal9315]

lol or the ones going from a script to use a sketch af website. -_-. I fixed one of my computers just replacing one cable a few years ago. The clip for the data cable to my hard drive just stopped working out of the blue. I have no idea why. day 1 it was fine, the next day went to log into work and...FUCK!! the computer no happy!! thankfully that was easy. But yeah man sketch af videos going: so rip out all these (garble garble) anda thena youa justclicka he (garble garble garble) that stuff is just bad.

[@Noctify]

i would let anothony scam me

[@tasnimulsarwar9189]

@@Noctify same. But I think he is just too nice to do that.

[@trousersnake1486]

This was posted a year ago but I started having this exact issue and it's been driving me crazy trying to figure out what's wrong. Thank God for Anthony.

[@Morehangouts]

These Anthony deep dives are PURE gold. We would love more of these

[@diaman_d]

just everything a real computer nerd knows since birth. Goes to show the state of everybody claiming to be a computer techy...too many wannabe amateurs, like linus himself.

[@TheOcBull]

@@diaman_d yeah of course. You are way smarter than the rest of us big boy

[@donkeydelux640]

Honestly, Anthony has grown on me so much with his bright personality, relatability, and just obscenely impressive knowledge. Love him presenting more videos!

[@nirav6459]

Is that sonicchu

[@donkeydelux640]

@@nirav6459 idk, probably, he's cute tho

[@jeffreysims3592]

Agree! I first I didn’t like him for very superficial reason (I’m an asshole) but man he is so freakin knowledgeable and communicates really clearly! He’s become much more lively and enjoyable to watch.

[@CyberDragon10K]

I still remember when he first started in Short Circuit and forgot about segues. Dude has grown.

[@donkeydelux640]

@@jeffreysims3592 exactly the same honestly, thankfully I was aware of me being a superficial asshole and powered through to discover his amazing personality and knowledge :)

[@SegmentW]

I missed Anthony so much. He's just so gentle with the way he delivers information. Good to have you back Anthony, fun video! I enjoyed watching

[@scanbbb]

who's anthony

[@Superoeli]

@@scanbbb The man that was talking for 99% of the video

[@ChronologicalLogic]

Anthony, you're the man!! ^^ nice relaxed vid ty!!

[@DBLEB]

I''d let Anthony ''help'' me gently, too. ...Yes, this is a thirst-post on a techsupport video. I'm sorry.

[@wliaputs]

Why is Anthony?

[@SubmaxSubrose]

As a Linux nerd IT support and dev I must send honest respect for Anthony! He's not only knowledgeable but also great in communicating it. Congratulations!

[@leetebbens8858]

I love the more frequent Anthony videos. The general direction of the channel with Linus slowly stepping back is good. I like how the different hosts are kind of falling into their own niches. Sadly no one (probably) will be another Linus, but having different hosts, more often than not, doing videos in their own area of expertise or passion really keeps that same knowledgeable and energetic vibe.

[@mfaizsyahmi]

So far so good, but when will Anthony get his own show?

[@maxmustsleep]

Keep in mind that they do have a team of writers behind the scenes though often the hosts (especially Linus) will request some changes, but in theory hiring hosts to replace Linus is not all that crazy

[@felicityc]

This was one of his worst videos idk this was very unlike Anthony too. This isn't even linux so it's not Anthony's specialty, and while he's great at most stuff, Windows troubleshooting tends to be an occam's razor thing instead of a 'okay let's check the registry log and dlls loaded and then go check the wiring in the walls' and more like 'the bios update bricked it dude' Not Anthony's fault, the problem given was an unexplained boring one that was unsuited to a video nor did it really help anyone here (lots of people now have the wrong idea about power savings settings imo), but this episode was really poorly written in general. Seemed very rushed. Saying the problem is *shrug* fixed doesn't mean shit. Create a repeatable situation and then solve it. This was just 'fiddle with pc and then teach ppl about event viewer' which doesn't help anyone ngl. It's also an AMD only suggestion since C1E/EIST in intel based BIOS works completely differently

[@vadnegru]

@@felicityc well i have problems with C states reporting to OS in Intel X99 board. I could not use event log since Windows not booting. (and fresh install of Mint either)

[@VenerabIe]

PLEASE do more deep dives like this. This was so cool, so informative, and so useful. I would watch these all day. ... and please do them with Anthony. (:

[@chief5002]

I’d rather he shoot them with Canthee

[@josh-lewis]

Nice try SECRET ANTHONY ACCOUNT. OK, I actually really loved this too and I agree with you 100%.

[@DrGreen_LV]

I cant imagine LMG without Anthony. His techsupport backbone and super calm aproach about things that normal people understands as whitenoise is fantastic. We love you big fella!

[@sestinator]

I'm an IT systems engineer and this taught me something. Anthony isn't just smart for the channel, he knows his stuff really well. Thanks Anthony!

[@KingKong-xp6so]

IT experts don't deal with these kinds of stuffs useless

[@navybIue]

@@KingKong-xp6so what?

[@Spectrik]

​@NavyBlue he's speaking a language beyond our comprehension

[@Terreos]

Anthony is by far the most pleasing member of the LTT family to listen too. He’s informative, funny, and never over the top. Some of the other members try way too hard to be funny that it makes the video suffer with the message it’s trying to bring across. Keep it up Anthony!

[@Kambie916]

Definitely knows how too get his hours of pay. GOOD JOB. stretch that shit out.

[@mocha6315]

I don’t think others are trying hard. Some of them are just their nature

[@GumSkyloard]

Anthony's also very genuine. Linus seems over the top and a bit too "in your face" sometimes.

[@KMFDM_Kid2000]

Agreed. He's great for this.

[@AndreaFrancoise]

AnthonyTechTips let's go

[@genericname3685]

When the toughest time comes glad there is always the Wizard Anthony is there to help.

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

🧙‍♂✨🧙‍♂✨

[@Verlisify]

"This has been unchanged since Windows 2000" So you are telling me its something that will actually work?

[@Immudzen]

This is one of those tools I like that they have not changed it. People complain in various places about how some of these older tools look out of place but they work really well and the only people that ever see them are technical people.

[@jblyon2]

@@Immudzen This, exactly. I don't care how ugly it is if it WORKS. Every time Microsoft replaces a management utility with something that looks prettier it's less functional and usually missing a number of basic yet critical capabilities.

[@AlphaHorst]

@@Immudzen This. Whyt do I care what it looks like? Does it show me what I need to know to get to the problem/show me the problem? Is the interface structured and visible? Can I work in it with a keyboard and mouse, or better just one of the two if needed? Then don`t "fix" it. Whenever you change such a tool just for looks you risk breaking it. And breaking the tool that is supposed to help you unbreak stuff is kinda dumb.

[@moldyskittle]

@@Immudzen plus...I kinda like the old look. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Fuck the overly sleek new UIs

[@DrGreen_LV]

microsoft usualy dont upgrade or get rid of things that somehow works. Those three is notepad, event viewer and paint.

[@bucket6160]

This was so much more entertaining than I thought it would be. It's like a crime mystery thriller-type thing where the main detective is incredibly knowledgeable and articulate. Honestly whenever you guys run into a tech issue, take advantage and record another one of these. It's equally entertaining trying to see if you can guess the issue before the host concludes it.

[@brodriguez11000]

It's still a challenge. The thing that helps in diagnosing problems is repeatability. Or in other words "it only works correctly on the bench".

[@mirorava3296]

We need a complete guide by Anthony for troubleshooting bsod, bad drivers, random crashes, and other common problems in windows

[@amer2142]

A complete guide for a single thing of these that you listed is hard alone and all in the in same vid you meant ?

[@xorinzor]

That is by itself quite impossible. Each of those individual things can have many, many error codes, which by themselves each can have many different causes and fixes. Guess you could start to learn how to read the windows event log and go from there, but be prepared to dive deep on the technical stuff.

[@noirarmire1246]

This was why they focused on event viewer. It has a lot of info

[@DJTanner5]

Probably the most frustrating issue I run into at my old job - random restarts or shutdowns. This was a great look at some possible steps to take. Learn something every day!

[@Formula7Driver]

I'm going through that right now, it turns out I have some bent motherboard pins... I tried changing thermal paste, but it was just a temporary fix. Also, I noticed that my 3.3V rail is only at 2.8V, and 12V is at 11.5V, so it may be a factor as well

[@Deveyus]

It's worth noting that since he is overclocking and updated his bios the offsets that are saved may be incorrect internally, even if they are displaying correctly, this would potentially also lead to ACPI events. This can often be fixed by doing some action that causes the values to be rewritten, and thus updated.

[@flowerdealer]

I've had issues with bad ram timings after an BIOS update. I think it's always best to reset all settings and start fresh when you upgrade the BIOS.

[@asitisrequiredasitisrequir3411]

@@flowerdealer also you shouldn't really have any expectations of being able to overclock your CPU. If it runs at stock speeds without shutoffs, it's not broken. As soon as you overclock even slightly you risk having random shutoffs. Honestly given it's a work PC, even though it's LTT, I'm surprised that it is overclocked. I think this video is actually bad advice on these grounds. The first thing you should do is turn off the overclock if you are having random shutdowns.

[@DarkVeilGaming]

@@asitisrequiredasitisrequir3411 In the frame of this video though, the problem only existed after a bios update - it's clearly been overclocked beforehand and caused no issues. Obviously a BIOS update could definitely mess up the overclock settings, but as long as you're sticking with safe parameters, overclocking is safe and should not be causing any issues unless you're really cranking the max out of your CPU. Anecdotal evidence but i've had my 3.4Ghz i5 OCed to 4Ghz for years and have had zero issues with it.

[@lesleymunro4964]

Yes, one thing they didn't talk about, was the part where updating the BIOS may have partially caused the issue. If he updated, then didn't reset the BIOS to defaults, then reload his settings, it could be there were some settings from the old BIOS which were upsetting the new BIOS. I've had issues like that after BIOS updates, where there can be a LOT of quirky behaviour, but reset the BIOS settings, then redo all your settings, and its usually fine afterwards. I suspect that some updates change the locations that they store info, and if old settings are in there, it can effect the new BIOS programming, with unexpected results. So the TL;DR is, if you've updated your BIOS, reset the settings to defaults, then re-enter your settings, and that can avoid issues like this.

[@ddljddlj704]

How about update and set everything to default?

[@michel72546]

Holy cow! Thank you so much for making this video! My desktop computer had been shutting off like this for over a year, every day or two. Not powering down, not hibernating or sleeping, not rebooting, not blue screening. It was just suddenly shutting off, like the power was interupted. And as best I could tell, nothing was overheating. I didn't have ACPI configuration settings available to me in the BIOS, but in Windows 11, under Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options > Edit Plan Settings, I clicked "Change advanced power settings". In the Power Options dialog, the "Processor power managment > Minimum processor state" was set to 5%. I changed this to 80% a week ago, and my computer hasn't shut off since!!! Knock on wood, I think this fixed the issue!

[@jussikankinen9409]

Dont oc

[@thecomfyshirt]

I loved this. I love any 10+ minute sit downs with Anthony. I'd watch a whole different side channel of just tech deep dives with Anthony.

[@kuczaq69]

now that's an idea! a channel just for anthony

[@ShotGunner5609]

I love this stuff as someone who's not a complete beginner with computer stuff. Please keep building up that catalog of how to's and troubleshooting please, it's immensely helpful.

[@gabrielmckelvey3141]

I would love to have seen or heard Linus' response to Anthony telling him "Yeah, it was just a simple c-state error causing the shut-offs"

[@sylvaingaffie]

I just got a new tower, freshly built, and I’ve been trying to figure out random freeze issues since I booted it… I was about to give up and sell everything. Turns out it was that cstate thing. I can’t express in words how grateful I am for this video. Thank you.

[@AlexADumbDumb]

As an IT guy, tbh I think my first step would have been to disable overclocking and set all the BIOS settings back to default. Then again, no one should be overclocking the Dells in the office in the first place! A bit different of a scenario here. Also, this video gives a couple details I think could use more emphasis: 1. Can the issue be reproduced 2. Did the issue always occur or did it start at a certain point / after a certain action The answers to those questions are obvious in this case but the questions themselves are super important.

[@mattcarlin2873]

> 2. Did the issue always occur or did it start at a certain point / after a certain action Absolutely this. As I'm sure you remember, Linus said himself at the beginning of the video that it only started happening after a BIOS update. As a fellow IT guy, I'd say there's a more than reasonable possibility of this being the cause. Reverting the BIOS to the previous version (much like uninstalling a broken patch on a server) would be my first port of call.

[@vgaggia]

@@mattcarlin2873 I had an issue with my asus board when updating the bios to a windows 11 compatible bios(10th gen intel) and the cpu was stuck in power save c states, so there is 100% some bios issue with asus motherboards, you can't actually downgrade the bios, you have to load it onto a usb and plug into a specific usb port that will auto load any bios image on the flash drive, this fixed my issue, and all the bios update is supposed to do is enable tpm2.0 by default.

[@Acheron.426]

If the BIOS update was bugged and known by Asus and assuming the board was still supported, the next revision could have the issue addressed.

[@emac3628]

Wouldn't setting bios to default make it hard to determine what was the issue though (changing multiple setting as opposed to one at a time)¿

[@AlexADumbDumb]

@@emac3628 Yes, though if that was a priority, you could note down what settings were changed from defaults before resetting. The advantage there is you can very quickly confirm or rule out nonstandard BIOS settings as a cause. You could even do a binary search of all the changed BIOS settings to relatively quickly narrow down which setting it was, even if you knew nothing about intel power states.

[@markman278]

Event viewer is one of the most underrated tools. In my forensics class the information is invaluable for creating timelines.

[@nesyboi9421]

What do you use it for in forensics class? Like what information do you get from it?

[@markman278]

@@nesyboi9421 who logged in when, what happened at what time. Combine that with the registry, application logs, internet history, and you can describe the daily lives of a normal user

[@sebasnu1]

Anthony as a PC enthusiast I have to say you are one of the freaking best people to host this kind of content, I always happen to learn something new and that's awesome.

[@supernova-4420]

Always love these technical vids with Anthony! And I love how LTT can always integrate comedy into any video they do regardless of how serious or complicated the context. Give me more Anthony!!!!!

[@skeletor_118]

I love seeing Anthony in videos. Even if things he says go over my head, it's very informative and is a great learning experience. I thought about going into IT at one point and have since decided against it, but LTT continues to satisfy my curiosity for technology, and Anthony is great at presenting this info in an easily digestible way

[@CaesarSaladin7]

This was a great video! I've been in tech support for almost a decade now and I loved how Anthony talked through what he was doing systemically. This is a great video showing how to work through this situation, and how to interact with inquisitive customers who want to learn how to troubleshoot their own machines.

[@theprof8254]

Anthony is very, very skilled at presenting. A pleasure to watch

[@potatochobit]

no, he is very, slow, and repetitive, and mixes, information, for like, next time, we might fix something, not today

[@pleasedonotsniffmycheese1841]

@@potatochobit ???

[@reburgcam]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I though I was just going to have to live with my new PC randomly shutting off. I tried the bios change Anthony showed and I have been restart free for a week!!!. Thank you so much.

[@UlteriorMotivesGymBro]

I love the way Anthony explains things, this issue hasn't happened to me yet but its nice to know how to go through the troubleshoot the right way.

[@Glumyy]

The "He's just techy Michael Scott" on the wall is absolutely incredible.

[@yaseen157]

I really love some of the more recent videos you guys are delivering, the creativity in the content is really excelling, and this is no exception. Good job everyone, and great hosting Anthony!

[@kingturco100]

I had this exact issue with my computer! I had built a PC about 5 years ago. About 3 years after creation it randomly start doing shutting down for a second and turning right back on. It would not matter on what I was doing, watching videos, playing video games, researching topics, sitting ideal. Took it to multiple tech/computer repair places, no one could diagnose my problem as they could not replicate it so they didn't know where to even look, later found out they just cleaned my pc with compressed air and called it a day..... I decided to start researching the problem and trying to fix it myself by replacing every component in my computer. Figured must be a power issue since it will shut down then come right back on, replaced. Nope can't be that, then figured okay maybe my graphics card is getting too hot, replaced that. Same outcome, maybe my liquid cooler isn't cooling the CPU enough, replaced. Same problem, okay well maybe its my motherboard, maybe its got a short somewhere and that's what's causing it, replaced. Nope, long shot but maybe somehow, somewhere my case is causing a static shock to my motherboard, replaced it. Same issue. Okay well at this point it has to either be my CPU or my RAM. Replaced CPU, same issue. Finally made the "right" discission and just built a brand new one.

[@Empireyyhz]

So it was the ram ? Or u just formatted the whole pc?

[@jussikankinen9409]

Did u oc

[@LazZanZaz]

Anthony saying "Maybe" is peak humbleness, we all know that BIG MAN ANTHONY can do anything in the most elegant fashion.

[@dude11579]

Nah, its more like "I don't know what this dumbass did. It may be fubar. But screw it I can try."

[@blunderingfool]

Except avoid heart disease.

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@blunderingfool Don't be a fucking asshole. He's mentioned struggling with weight and trying to deal with it multiple times on the show, and has even done segments about things that can help him (like when he got VR for Beat Saber and stuff during his Intel Upgrade)

[@AlejandroLopez-kk9vu]

Agreed!

[@luckymark571]

So by saying "maybe" it make you humble?

[@imnotsantos]

Anthony is literally a dream teacher man explains everything at a level where its easy to understand

[@sparketech]

Cool to see you doing trouble shooting videos; randomly turning off can certainly be challenging diagnose. Good Job Linus and LTT group

[@TheNubaHS]

Depends on the person using, whenever its a somewhat advanced user idling shutdown is almost always a bad voltage curve, like 99% of the times.

[@NinjaSushi2]

I'm so glad the tech team hired you. You are a wealth of knowledge that I am in desperate need of right now.

[@SB-wo1dh]

This is such a great video! I love the deviations where you take a second to explain things that aren't relevant but can be in the future. Googling things I find but don't know is how I learned to troubleshoot in the first place. It's always safe to Google a random process you don't recognize.

[@triggerhappysound]

Please, more of this troubleshooting content with Anthony. He's excellent at it.

[@walkinmn]

Please, please! Do more videos like this. I'm the guy that fixes friends and family computers and I still learned a lot from this video. Anthony is awesome for tech support

[@MickySarge]

Really enjoyed this one. Straightforward computer troubleshooting with a knowledgeable host. Great!

[@christopheraplin]

Anthony is one of the best LMG hires. How lucky was Linus.

[@MASSIVEsock]

Shut up about anthony HOLY, fucking every comment is like putting him on this pedestal because he's what? Like lacking in other areas of appeal as a human? fucking actual cringe

[@christopheraplin]

@@MASSIVEsock bro calm down. i enjoy his delivery about subjects i don’t give a shit about. Stop implying there’s some other make a wish bullshit attached to it

[@MASSIVEsock]

@@christopheraplin theres thread after thread about this topic and every video with him results in the same thing. Cope.

[@christopheraplin]

@@MASSIVEsock i don’t watch every video

[@MASSIVEsock]

@@christopheraplin 🥰😍😇 wow!

[@XPilotYT]

I haven't watched the whole video yet, I've had the same issue with my Asus Z690 Extreme where it randomly shuts down on idle, and it turned out to be a USB issue according to the Windows LiveKernelReports dump files. Fiddling around with the USB inputs, moving them around etc. seems to have fixed the problem.

[@sparketech]

Had a USB issue before that the connected device would cause system hangs. USB can be finicky, simply removing the device or trying different ports can work nicely as you did. Good job on the self trouble shooting :)

[@XPilotYT]

@@sparketech Thank you :) in my case the system would just turn off instantly and wouldn't turn back on unless I pressed the power button again. It kept happening every couple of hours or so, it was a nightmare!

[@Alyzah]

If you have to switch ports wouldn't it be wiser to just get a new motherboard? Sorry I'm noob.

[@MCXL1140]

My computer would randomly shot off, turned out it was the power supply dying.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@Alyzah Not in all cases. Depending on what peripherals or accessories you're trying to use, some things work better in USB 2.0 ports than USB 3.x, and vice versa. There's a multitude of potential compatibility issues when using devices, cables, and ports, across differing USB generations.

[@gradyshmalady8284]

Glad to know I'm doing the right things already, though that event log / registry cross reference was something that surprisingly I never thought to do and will now. Great video for learning the basic troubleshooting steps.

[@tjchoe5824]

8:37 turning off C-state on my bios fixed my PC from randomly crashing once in a while. I first thought it was a PSU problem because I noticed it a lot after upgrading my GPU (2060 to 3060) but problem consisted even after upgrading it (from 650 to 750). Then I saw this video and decided to try everything on this guide and turning c-state off fixed it. Thank you Linus for having the same problem and thank you Anthony for fixing it

[@goku445]

Did you get any log on the error? MCE errors?

[@MeowsyDancer]

Did it work for you long-term? Comp still alive?

[@stephenhoran4897]

I'm really liking videos like this and all of Anthony's videos in general. Great presentation, nice explanation to go alomg with it to, and usually you can use the tips he uses for other than what is being tackled in teh video. great stuff and would liek to see more from Anthony!

[@cornholio9186]

Now this is legit tech tips. Would love to see more videos like this!

[@itranscendencei7964]

Just wanna say thank you for making this video. This was actually the solution to a very similar issue that I was having with my PC, and the guys at the LTT forums were a big help. Thanks again for raising awareness!

[@TheMoodyLoners]

Thanks for doing this video guys - it finally solved a problem with my new build that had me going nuts. The crazy part was that I could run Cinebench all day without issues but the moment the PC was idle it would shut down. I had tried everything but once I shut off C-state control in the BIOS, my issue was resolved. Bravo!

[@tombeauchamp806]

Absolutely love Anthony when he's in videos, keep em up. He seems like he'd be a fun dude to eat pizza rolls and run raids with

[@shervinso]

This is usually caused by "Power Supply Idle Control" setting in the bios for AMD CPUs. You should try that instead of disabling C-State altogether. That fixed the same issue for me.

[@charnet3d207]

What value should it be set at? it has 3 options: Auto, low and typical. When using the 1usmus power plan with zen2 cpus it's suggested to have it set at low. However I'm not not sure what's best for other cpus like zen3 or threadripper.

[@qm3ster]

Have you measured the effect on idle power consumption at the wall?

[@qm3ster]

@@Psychx_ I meant *just* the power supply thing that was buggy for him, not C-States.

[@shervinso]

@@charnet3d207 You should set it to Typical instead of Low or Auto (Low or Auto is what is causing the restarts).

[@shervinso]

@@Psychx_ I have a Corsair CP-9020196-NA and I was still experiencing the restarts. You need to set it to Typical to fix it.

[@poporowyo]

Anthony is the hero we need. I also NEEDED a car jumper battery - so good job LTT for getting a useful ad that made me purchase something right away!

[@jdd1318]

@@harshpatil9825 what??? Why what's wrong with us???

[@TomasCyr]

Bruh, the way you were sitting at one point I thought you were missing an arm, and I felt really bad for you. Like I know we have 2 so losing one isn't a huge deal, but I bet it would really suck. So when you turned later and I saw you had 2 arms I felt much better. So thanks for turning dude!

[@PostTimeskipSam]

Despite the turn off noise in the intro sounding like a CRT. My heart dropped a little when I thought my computer turned off 🤣🤣

[@hiagoalmeida16]

It happened when I pressed the button to run my work's project, I genuinely tough that my pc went to shit

[@dalemurkid]

I'm listening to this off my phone, and still had a heart attack. They got me!

[@GarbanzoBeansFan]

got me too 😂😂

[@equinoxe3d]

Got me too, as my PSU makes a similar relay noise when it shuts off

[@CarthagoMike]

Linus: "F*ck you miners" Also Linus: _idle mining whilst being away from the office_

[@zabzinski]

lmfao

[@macking104]

or, is it malware mining...

[@Kurares]

I just want to say most tutorials out there are a dime a dozen. This is not one of those. This is super high quality. Awesome job. 👌

[@eaamir83]

After a year long troubleshooting and even a RMA this fixed the restarts/blue screens I was getting on a R9 5900x with B550. Thanks Anthony.

[@paulbrooks4395]

This explains a lot about issues we had years ago with ESX hosts in our datacenter randomly rebooting when they were not set to Static High Performance mode in the BIOS. We also had to set High Performance in vSphere to ensure no random performance dips. My understanding is that all these power saving features use C state control. I just never knew that they caused these kinds of power target effects. Thanks for the deep dive.

[@csokasg]

yeah, for hosts or even virtual machines you really should set it for high performance even in windows :)

[@jasonl.1171]

For those who are curious, Linus kept stepping on the power button on the power strip.

[@jeremydale4548]

Seriously?

[@DJTimeLock]

that would show as an unexpected shutdown in event log though

[@theofficialrafff]

Mans really out here capping 🤣

[@jasonl.1171]

@@jeremydale4548 lol joking of course

[@davidg5898]

Excellent job by Anthony -- I've come to expect no less from him. It's the work-flow that any experienced tech does for intermittent problems: check the physical connections first (usually a very quick process), then take a look at the hardware's operating functionality (BIOS settings, HWInfo, a quick stress test if relevant, and stuff like that), and then move on to software if you still haven't tracked the issue down. The only thing missing from this how-to is a mention to check for documentation and user reports if you have a known quantity that was changed just before the issue started. Since this problem manifested after a BIOS update (as reported by Linus, whose tech-savviness can be trusted), it's worth doing a quick search for whether BIOS has any reported conflicts/errors.

[@LordGamesHD]

as someone who works in helpdesk, Anthony's forefront thinking is exactly how i and other technicians think when troubleshooting. love it!

[@jeffsinger5789]

Great informative video! I was experiencing this exact issue on a similarly configured system and it was perplexing me, only happening at idle not at load. Thank you for this!

[@hypnotoad101]

Same, actually with similar mobo I've read more of the manual than I've done in 15 years and I love reading manuals, this one felt more like a logic puzzle but in truth I just needed to slow down. Mine had to be flashed in order to get Win 11 to install. Started crashing heaps at idle and I did all the regular checks. Turns out it's just a C-State issue when I probably went through every bios option looking for something that sounded right.

[@junhawng]

I feel like disabling c-states is kind of a band-aid solution, personally don't like the higher idle power usage and temps.

[@songokussj4cz]

My thoughts too. I really liked the video. But some explanation what does disabled C-State means in practice is missing. Is it runnin on full clock now? Consuming more power?

[@vadnegru]

All points out for some bug in bios about handling C states. Sometimes solutions like this will be mentioned right in download page.

[@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773]

@@vadnegru it could be bad code written. This is why its usually best to wait out until the new OS drops (about 6 months in) just so any of the critical bugs are squashed before jumping in.

[@Glotttis]

Yeah, this is more like a temporary workaround rather than a real fix. I was hoping Anthony would actually get to the bottom of this. Was very surprised that loading optimized BIOS defaults wasn't recommended, this is troubleshooting step 1 or 2, especially on PCs that are overclocked or not running default BIOS config (like it was in this case). Now as for root cause of this issue, it could be hardware related, like PSU for example (some PSUs behave weird with C states).

[@vadnegru]

@@everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 if it's problem with bios it will affect any OS. In video he is still running Windows 10, despite background image (notice square window edges).

[@TitanInvictusTube]

This is above my knowledge and I still found it informative, easy to follow, and just great to watch. I would love to see more content like this covering troubleshooting. Such a great mindset, Anthony!

[@TheXlen]

It's fairly low on the knowledge base, but cool I guess. 👌

[@kibsxkibbles7443]

@@TheXlen not for someone with little experience with the advanced side of pcs, lotta people don't even know what a bios is lol

[@TheXlen]

@@kibsxkibbles7443 fair enough, I guess, but it's generally fairly low on the skill set

[@kibsxkibbles7443]

@@TheXlen yea, guess it's the same for any field really. To a mechanic an oil change is very simple, to a normal person, it's alien

[@HenriqueCavalcanti]

This video might've saved me from buying a new PSU. I was facing a similar issue multiple times a day for months and was narrowing down the problem to my PSU, but since watching this video and disabling C-state, I haven't had any restarts! These were some actual tech tips.

[@johnr.timmers2297]

"We're gonna call in the cavalry here" Anthony, gotta be Anthony "A for Anthony" HELL YEAH

[@LockhartTx]

When Anthony hosts, I watch, no exceptions. This dude is a great teacher.

[@altusdefconalt3468]

Was very hesitant on watching a LTT without Linus, since I actually really do enjoy his presentation, but I'm actually enjoying Anthony's tech videos. Very informed on what he's talking about, and I enjoy his presentation. Keep up the good work!

[@Pokemanic33]

Anthony is the only host I watch besides Linus, he's just so good

[@frenchbread147]

Anthony, you fixed my computer! My 5800x paired with an Asus X570-Pro would freeze when the computer was idle for more than a half hour or so. I was starting to think it was the RAM, but sure enough, I turned off C-States and no more freezing up. Thank you!

[@fernandostanic2035]

Does it still work like that? My 5700x and b550m board restart itself while idle or chrome left in bacground.

[@mbmumford]

This may have just solved a problem my buddy is having. More of these tech support videos would be awesome.

[@Xeanthorn]

One step I recommend in troubleshooting is that if you have a transient, first try to turn it into a reproducible. That way, you can test after the fix. Not always possible or practical, but IF you have a transient issue, trying to make it reproducible is a very good first step. Thanks for the great video!

[@ryanlol33]

I love how it looks like Anthony's office is in some sort of utility closet area :D I especially love the mirror over his monitor! Awesome digs, Anthony! You are an inspiration with your technical abilities and how easily you communicate complex ideas!

[@TrustedCat89Gaming]

thank you guys sooooo much for this video, i was having a similar issue with my system randomly shutting off and i found the issue instantly with event viewer, it was absolutely driving me nuts thanks again from a long time sub and fan!!

[@ruphio26]

I love you Anthony. Just the best at presenting complicated info in easily digestible ways.

[@SneakyBadAssOG]

I dig Anthony's rearview mirror. I also have my desk situated this way, and it's very anxiety inducing if someone is walking behind you and doing something, while you have no idea.

[@speedracer2please]

YES, especially if you use headphones. I'm still looking for a better mirror, maybe a wide angle one.

[@SneakyBadAssOG]

@@speedracer2please I just ripped out the rearview from my old car :D I also have doors behind me (about 9ft away) so, yeah. With headphones on, it's really stressful, especially if you are not living alone.

[@Fede-2-1-]

Without any doubt Anthony is the best in LTT, he is the definition of an awesome person

[@hellofromherein8079]

I once simply replaced a faulty blowing PSU, and it solved the immediate issue. Also helps run your systems on stable power sources, and backup power batteries. Otherwise, hardware does need to be replaced from time to time, depending on the quality of the components.

[@therealsharat]

imagine making a whole company about tech tips and then ur PC doesn't turn on

[@Blackerer]

A good hint is also to start logging in your HWINFO, when you are trying to catch unpredictable crashes, you might catch a spike somewhere. 10:00 Anthony you sure that you have changed the C-State setting?

[@purefoxcore2848]

10:34 "You have not made any changes to the BIOS settings."

[@NinjasKill123]

@@purefoxcore2848 Oh no

[@37racso]

@@purefoxcore2848 Asus boards don’t note certain things in this pop up, one of those things being c-states. So he made the change and it was saved it’s just a bug that exists for years at this point

[@HelloFellowDinosaurs]

I have an Asus X570 board and mine also doesn't say when I've changed certain settings, I think they should make it so every single chat shows there if you want it to.

[@modulusshift]

Anthony dismissed the UPS quite quickly, but remember that many UPS have USB cables that plug into your computer to initiate a safe shutdown if a fault is detected. If the UPS was giving off false positives, random shutdowns without anything else being affected could very well be the symptom. On the other hand, many UPSs would also be shrieking their alarm constantly in such a situation, but you can’t always count on that.

[@Flashbang_Photo]

But that would make a safe shutdown i guess? Haven't watched yet but it looks like it just *dies*

[@4RT1LL3RY]

From my experience with the UPS auto shutdown it will give you a log code when it does shutdown due to that. The other thing is that on UPS that have that option you always want to set a buffer time so when it loses power due to a power blink it doesn't immediately try to shutdown. I know on my UPS that if I lose power I have 18 minutes of power under light load so I only will shutdown when its a disruption of over 5 minutes.

[@modulusshift]

@@Flashbang_Photo they never show the shutdown, just saying that it happens unprompted, and without a blue screen.

[@hellsgate09]

While a fair point, it depends _entirely_ on the nature of the "shutdown". Keep in mind there is a difference between an initiated shutdown and a power-off event, which is instant and it's usually going to be a internal self-protection mechanism of the PSU or some 'event'(fault, protection, whatever) coming from the motherboard via the 24-pin cable telling the PSU to turn off.

[@bingbing3464]

@@modulusshift it's a straight up crash. And it is logged as kernel or cache issues. My ryzen have this gremlin too. Vastly related to c-state power plans and poorly configured LLC out of the box. but disabling that and cranking up the LLC makes the cpu run pretty hot and drawing unnecessary lots of power even when idle. It prompted me to switch to intel and that eases my sanity.

[@SJPlays_]

1. check the power 2. check the cables 3. have INCREDIBLE knowledge about PCs easy right?

[@stephenmotoguy]

A client I work with was having the same type of issues and found it to be the power saving functions that were the cause of the issue. I am glad I was looking in the same direction as Anthony. He is running a 3960X.

[@thescandalchannel]

a friend had the same problem with a 3600x, but we couldent finde the problem until we changed the mb, since then, it just works.....

[@magnuzonemedia7230]

Anthony in clutch as always. should be "Anthony's corner" as a sector of this channel

[@magnuzonemedia7230]

​@@glew374 I didn't know some stranger on the interwebs was able to dictate how i talk?? Will highly consider your reasoning.

[@francisredoubt4756]

Linus, I totally get this premise. After moving into IT Management (from a lifetime of fixing stuff myself) the hardest thing I had to do was hand my laptop to my helpdesk team and say "Hey guys, its borked, can you fix it and let me know when its done?" Also, I've always got an upvote for Anthony.

[@angolin9352]

Anthony probably knew what this was before he even touched the computer, but went through the motions for the viewers' sake. Ryzen C-states (specifically C6) have been a known issue to the Linux community for awhile, and the only reason more Windows people haven't had this issue is that Windows usually has enough background activity that it can't go into a deep C-state. The "fun" part about C-state troubleshooting is that the effect can be esoteric and the cause obscured. Linus' issue was easy to identify and troubleshoot. My PC kept freezing, but only after I loaded the GPU and took the load off too quickly. Sounds like a GPU issue, but it persisted across cards and disabling C6 fixed it - Even though loading/unloading the CPU didn't cause the issue.