Linux 6.11, GNOME 47, Microsoft kernel mode changes, Zorin OS, & more Linux news

[@meh.7539]

Windows: WE HAVE AI! Gnome: Accent Colors. I love that my computer is boring again.

[@michael_tunnell]

nice, username checks out

[@AskMoonBurst]

I'm on linux, and frankly... if I WANTED to cheat in games, I would. I'd run a VM and run my cheats from outside. The people who are on linux generally speaking COULD cheat if they cared to. Not being a linux game just makes playing inconvenient from the start. I play a number of games that are banned from VMs in my VM anyway. Not because I want to cheat, but because it won't run natively on linux. But I 100% could cheat if I wanted to.

[@michael_tunnell]

What games are you aware of that you can cheat on? I’m curious what anti cheats they use. Also a VM is quite different than using Proton so the anti cheats would work much differently there

[@AskMoonBurst]

@@michael_tunnell @michael_tunnell For the most part the easiest way of cheating is simple botting. Making macros and loop scripts to do so. But when you include VMs it's a LOT more. I play MMOs that don't even allow themselves to be run in VMs in my VMs. At which point cheating is that much easier since there's added layers of obfuscating what's happening. But for the most part, outside of just making games run that the devs have explicitly tried to block, I don't cheat for anything that isn't single player. I'm just saying, I very well COULD if I wanted to.

[@AskMoonBurst]

@@michael_tunnell Okay, I don't know why responding from the youtube notification doesn't work, but anyway. The most simple of cheating can be done with simple botting methods. But since VMs are so popular for people gaming on linux, it allows all the same things there. I play MMOs in VM that explicitly don't want to be run in a VM. Not because I want to cheat, I really don't. But I want to be able to run the games. The only games I condone cheating in are single player. I'm just saying that if I WANTED to cheat, I absolutely could.

[@ytbone9430]

The lighting is improving, it looks really nice today, thank you! o)

[@michael_tunnell]

Thanks 😎 … I have made a ton of adjustments to the presentation 💪

[@ytbone9430]

@@michael_tunnell Yes, lighting, audio, colors and things, they match and look fine. I'm not sure about the skewed panels, though. A lot of channels and news stations tried around with perspective faking presentation designs, but in the long run they didn't do well?! You just can't get another dimension into a 2D screen display, so it will always mess with your brain subconsciously or be straight uncomfortable if you watch for longer?! Not sure, just a guess, there is another reason to not using skewed panels and screenshots: I often like to pause the videos and read any article and texts on my own, then let the host read it out loud when I'm done (or the other way round "wait, what did he just say?"). It can be irritating if you have text in front of you, which your brain tries to read automatically and the host is reading it at the same time. So, for better readability in paused mode and just because skewed lines on a screenshot don't read well and maybe also for better dimensional awareness, regular rectangular panels with non-skewed content would be my choice. That's just me, not talking for you and the rest of your audience of course! o) Thank you and have a nice day! o)

[@michael_tunnell]

interesting point, I will take it into consideration about the skewing. That part of the presentation is still a WIP so I am open to changes

[@gljames24]

It was fun seeing you make this!

[@SirChristoferus]

The development team made a good choice with those custom accent colors, it’s one of my favorite out-of-the-box features of Ubuntu and its derivative distributions.

[@centy64]

People really sleep on ZorinOS I think it should be mentioned in the same conversation as Mint for new users coming from windows.

[@michael_tunnell]

I agree which is why I included Zorin in my getting started with Linux video 😎

[@pip5528]

My friend started on Zorin a few months ago but then moved to Mint because he was having issues with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Things on Mint just worked for him.

[@centy64]

@@pip5528 Oddly enough I first used Zorin because I had the same issue on Mint lol man what a time to have so many solid distros

[@victor_hernandez_g]

Gnome beautiful as always.

[@petar0402]

Only GDM looks good, IMO.

[@RichterJ24PNW]

I use Zorin OS and love it!

[@voidmind]

I'm happy you did your homework and did not report he anti-cheat thing as fact.

[@michael_tunnell]

Thanks 😎

[@PearComputingDevices]

Maybe it's just me but as a kid of the 80's I don't find that prices for hardware being all that crazy if you shop around. Sure it's not pre 2019 cheap, because of government consistently devaluing our currency, it's still much more cheaper than when computers had been far more proprietary in nature. We can still buy a lot of computing power for a lot less money compared. Still it's true it's not cheap but the bang per buck is still impressive when done with care.

[@phoenixrising4995]

The biggest Linux kernel change in the news is the 6.12 kernel merging the RT patch set.

[@michael_tunnell]

that is something for the next release

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@michael_tunnell You should get the top end Battlemage card which will compete with the 4070Ti supposedly. Well that is you can stomach Intel not bringing XeSS to Linux. I'm actually surprised how long it's taking them.

[@AwKeli]

Great video setup 👍

[@elalemanpaisa]

Oh yea I read the RFC for NVIDIA / Secureboot some month ago and I am happy it finds it's way in F41.. I already switch back to Windows because of that and used WSL I still dual boot because of music production but now I may consider installing Fedora again on bare metal.

[@FengLengshun]

Hm? I'm pretty sure that Universal Blue (that is, Bazzite, Bluefin, and Aurora) already supports Secure Boot with their Nvidia images?

[@elalemanpaisa]

@@FengLengshun I don't use other than mainline distros. So only Debian, fedora or openSUSE

[@FengLengshun]

@@elalemanpaisa strictly speaking, Universal Blue is just Fedora Atomic. They use packages straight from Fedora. Bazzite adds some stuff to make things like Steam and Lutris be installed on the image itself, for use with Steam Deck and handheld or desktop console, but they modify stuff a lot less than Nobara (most changes are confined to their post-install setup tools). Bluefin and Aurora has less of that stuff, and the main uBlue images are even less with just the minimum stuff to use for image building. This is why the Universal Blue doesn't really accept being called a distro. A custom image of Fedora Atomic is usually the term that is used.

[@FengLengshun]

28:24 GIMP 2 be like

[@SilverFoxww]

AHS - Advanced Hardware Support

[@samnwakefield2032]

Zorin is my os from now on...hope they dont F it up

[@Joss0051]

I agree, a great distro.

[@Aelliun]

Did anyone notice that the mint website, to access the checksum and gpg... the browsers launch it with Warning? Expired certificate and more? I noticed it on September 21, 2024.

[@shadowrealms2676]

Looks so clean!

[@michael_tunnell]

What does? 😎

[@cammelspit]

The framerate seems better, did you switch to a higher framerate or use different OBS settings than you had been? Looks good.

[@michael_tunnell]

I wasn’t using OBS before sorting the process of the camera issues. I also wasn’t using it before when it was working fine. I don’t know what the ultimate issue was but I changed practically everything within my process. I’m using OBS again, I rebuilt my entire Scene Collection and redesigned the whole look of the show and much more. So I have no way to know what the actual issue was but happy to hear it’s fixed lol

[@Scrub_Ghost]

Are you saying if you haven't "updated" from Python 2? Have you updated from Python 1? 😜

[@LaughingFoxeditz]

Lol gnome 47 taking impression from Ubuntu custom gnome

[@JTCPingas]

To be fair Michael, even Solus still hasn't fully deprecated python2 from their repository. But that is an ongoing process.

[@michael_tunnell]

It wasn’t a hit on Fedora, I just found it funny to think people are using such a bad language still. Python 3 is great but 2 is laughable at this point

[@turtlewax3849]

I am surprised no one is really covering the 16 billion offer from Microsoft for Steam.

[@michael_tunnell]

There's not much to talk about because it is just a rumor at this point. It could be discussed as a rumor but its not for a news show since its not news its just unsubstantiated claims at the moment

[@turtlewax3849]

@@michael_tunnell I dont know too many rumors with figures attached to them. I just hope Steam loves freedom more than money

[@michael_tunnell]

Rumors in the tech world happen all the time and they come with numbers on many occasions because some things are just made up nonsense and they spread like wildfire. Same thing in the gaming world too. I highly doubt Valve would sell to Microsoft, I doubt it would sell to anyone but Microsoft would be the last company I would expect to see them sell to. The whole reason Valve started focusing on Linux over a decade ago was because of how Windows was becoming worse and worse for users and how they completely disagreed with the future Windows was going in and now its even worse than that. I think on principles alone they would never sell to MS, sell to someone maybe but MS is very unlikely. Valve could make much more money if they wanted to but they have fair business practices and treat the customers and developers well instead of optimizing for money so I doubt this rumor has any substance.

[@turtlewax3849]

@@michael_tunnell I understand and I agree with your view. At the same time, Steam is the only real competition to Xbox store. Steam also aids in the ability for Linux to become more appealing to the everyday computer user/gamer. Steam OS and Steam Deck led the way for portable gaming. Linux is making huge strides in hardware support for legacy and bleeding edge. In my humble opinion, Linux is at the Windows 2k stage, and by 2025/2026 it will be XP w/ SP2 (the best windows os). At that time, it was MS vs Apple. Apple had the schools, so lots of new computer users were use to Apple. The same scenario is playing out now in the public realm. Sorry for the length. This is a very serious issue that looks innocent now, but will bite everyone who is passionate about Linux in the butt. We have to pay attention and even petition Steam to choose Freedom over money. Money will come, Freedom never comes back when given away.

[@thenameisluk]

funny when most exciting stuff for u is some software version going up :3

[@michael_tunnell]

Which topic are you referring to?

[@thenameisluk]

@@michael_tunnell kernel going 6.11 gnome going 47 just find it funny that it interests me now

[@michael_tunnell]

I’m not sure what you mean to be honest. I cover the news since it’s a news show and those 2 topics are guaranteed topics on this show for every release they have. There’s a few things that are guaranteed to always be covered and those are in that list

[@DJgregBrown]

Shame G47 Accent colour option choices suck. Therme's are broken and anyone who uses Gnome already had way to change the accent colour, file icon are the same, but they can be change with icon packs. I tried F41 Beta as Fedora do the most plain Gnome but I sticking to G46 as long as I can but will work on G47 as back end has a lot of back end. Suck so much I thinking of going KDE lol As if I like you with GNOME as you are KDE.

[@tanujrana8490]

The wine kernel? Wine has no kernel, it is not an emulator

[@michael_tunnell]

A news show does not have time to go into the nuances of complex topics like how the wine kernel is technically in userspace but performs translations between the WINE stack and the Linux kernel so no its not technically a kernel but yes it does perform kernel functions through the translations of APIs. gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/Wine-Developer's-Guide/Kernel-modules

[@JohnCrawford1979]

I have an old HO laptop from 2015 that has an Intel GPU. It's an Atom GPU. Considering it's almost 10 years old, has 4 GB RAM (DDR3), it does fairly well. So far, it's had issues on Fedora, but Debian works probably the best. I use i3wm on it because I don't think Wayland pays well with it, being how old it is. X11 seems to work better. Pipewire is alright, though Pulse Audio needs to be used for volume control. Pipewire special effects work, but too many overloads the system. So yeah, the Intel Atom GPU works alright for a nearly 10 year old system, but nothing to be thrilled about. It's 64 bit, so at least it's not dependent on needing a 32-bit OS. But don't expect it to win any drag races on benchmarks,

[@thingsiplay]

Did you ever use Pacman? It's my favorite package manager.

[@michael_tunnell]

yes but in my opinion, the syntax is silly nonsense. In fact, it also suffers the same update & upgrade issue with Syy and Syu because if you do Syyu that can break stuff. (Note: not only have I used pacman, I was a team member of Antergos back in the day)

[@thingsiplay]

​@@michael_tunnell My bad, I totally forgot you was on Antergos (and why you are a little fan of EndevourOS, which is my current platform ;-)). I like the syntax and how it functions and what features it offers. In fact, I don't want to use any package manager that does not have this syntax. I personally don't think the update & upgrade or Syu vs Syyu is a real problem. Why? Because its expected to understand the commands if you are managing it. Yes, I have the Arch mindset. :D Also one can just setup an alias too. The documentation tells and warns against using Syu, so that's not a real problem. It's only a problem if someone manages the system and didn't read the documentation. But I know you don't like that, and that's fine. At least you have used it and understand it why you don't like it. So I respect that.

[@michael_tunnell]

No problem, I rarely talk about my Arch experience. lol What features does it offer that you like? My point of Syyu is that it can cause issues so they say do not do that but you wont know that you need to do Syy until you do Syu slowing down the process if you need it. DNF does this automatically, if it needs to refresh it will detect that and auto-refresh so if you do dnf update or dnf upgrade then it will automatically do both if needed and only upgrade packages if not needed. You dont ever have to do both. In pacman, you should do Syy and Syu separately which is the same problem that APT has with update then upgrade. The syntax of DNF is much better because the syntax makes sense, context aware, and automatically performs tasks if needed. DNF is also less to type because Arch is pacman -Syu for upgrades and dnf is "dnf up" (that's it). For install, pacman -S package_name Versus dnf in package_name. DNF is more efficient, faster to use, syntax is logical, and automatic actions based on context. This is why I think it is better.

[@andreaspatsalides1914]

No talk about Ubuntu 24.10 beta veing released?

[@michael_tunnell]

The show was recorded yesterday at 1PM EST, it was announced way too late to be covered.

[@BanduTheGreat]

I'm currently watching this video on Fedora 41 beta.

[@guss77]

GNOME 47 accent colors: the video demonstration is amazing - they show the calendar app, that has a lot of blue highlights everywhere, then they change the accent color - and the only thing that changes is the circle showing the current month date, everything else remains blue. Bravo 👏! Well done GNOME! According to Nick's review (on Linux for everyone), folder highlights don't work either - waiting for a nautilus libadwaita update, I guess. The "more progress" part of the video, I think they show a bunch of MRs that were merged, possibly hinting at a lot of infrastructure work (such as the DRM leasing Wayland protocol) but I don't understand how anyone - that isn't already in the weeds with this - would figure out what it means...

[@sophie4051]

That's not blue highlights, that's the color of the specific calendar from which appointments are. It shouldn't change with the accent colors.

[@guss77]

​@@sophie4051, OK, I believe you. I don't use GNOME calendar and was not aware that this is how it works, and it made a bad impression. Maybe choosing GNOME Calendar to demonstrate accent colors wasn't the best choice - though from my impression from other reviews, there weren't any good choices because most apps were not yet updated.

[@guss77]

BTW - from Michael's review of the changelog I got the impression that there were a few other changes that had a visual representation and could have been shown - mostly about nautilus changes.

[@EmmanuelGoldsteinUK]

The Gnome Extension 'Desktop Cube' gives you a 3D desktop if you would like to try a 3D desktop experience?

[@michael_tunnell]

Desktop Cube is a classic effect which has been in many desktops since 2006 but that's not what was shown in the video. I suspect the effect is 100% video editing and not in the desktop, I just think that is a bad idea to do in a desktop video showing off what a desktop can do because it suggests it can do something it cant.

[@EmmanuelGoldsteinUK]

@@michael_tunnell I 100% agree, I just thought I'd mention that extension I previously tried for a 3D desktop effect if you're interested in trying something like that.

[@acubley]

@@EmmanuelGoldsteinUK But Michael is a KDE Plasma Man. (Is that anything like a Dapper Dan Man?) I agree that that would be a very cool effect for a task switcher, though.

[@fuseteam]

First :D

[@diuran1919]

Really wish to MediaTek Wi-Fi 7 Bluetooth start to working, Wi-Fi 7 is working but not that perfect like in windows.

[@DarkoDixit]

✨ Sublime estilo 🎼 Asegúrate de ver mi propuesta! ✊

[@MrAlanCristhian]

27:51 that's so true.