LiTime 100Ah Mini LiFePO4 RV | Off Grid Lithium Battery Review

The Professor reviews the new sub compact Li Time (pronounced "LEE-Time") Mini 100Ah LFP battery with 100A BMS perfect for Van Builds, RV, and Off Grid use.
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GET THE 100AH MINI: gohobo.io/litimemini use code HOBOTECH [CANADIAN? gohobo.io/litimeca ] INVERTERS: hobotech.tv/amazon/#Inverters-Chargers [POLL: I did a manual count of the chop vs no chop comments and it's a virtual tie. Looks like I'm buying a saw...] PS - I been pronouncing the name wrong. It's supposed to be "LEE-Time"!

[@Brad_Sevens]

Hi HOBO. How much can your discount code reduce the price?

[@peacepoet1947]

Don't cut the top off.

[@Stealthnomad007]

Waste of time to chop it...

[@josephstagg1052]

You are already giving people what they need to know in the review. If they want to get all teched out, see what someone else(Will)is doing with it.

[@mannyfragoza9652]

you dont have to cut the top off the battery you can leave that to others .BTW i have seen inside that battery it is well put together.

[@stuartstuart866]

I think removing the battery top keeps the manufacturers from cheaping out on the assembly. I have seen other KZbinrs criticize construction quality and the manufacturers made improvements on future releases, so yes, disassembly helps the consumer and should be included in your assessments. Thanks Tom for doing these tests, you and Jasonoid are really good at this.

[@mickwolf1077]

they probably make the first ones good then start to slack off when all the reviews are done.

[@delosla]

I love that you give these batteries away to someone who will use them and appreciate them. I don’t need to see you cut them open there’s already so much waste in this world.

[@jasonm4928]

I agree. Do the testing and be honest about the results. Then give them to someone that can use them rather than destroying a battery for clicks and likes.

[@markmonroe7330]

I don't agree. Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.

[@kelRGo]

I would say, don’t destroy a perfectly good battery, but that being said, I would be fascinated to see why this battery has such a compact profile with the same amp hours in such a small package. I would want to see how they did it, what corners they cut if any. As far as in general, what you do with your excess products I think you should give it away to your audience when you hit a particular milestones of your account or someone on your Patreon if you have one.

[@freeinFL]

Totally agree. Don’t cut open. Donate. Thank you!

[@nordic5490]

Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.

[@jdl3408]

Keep opening them. It can provide important insights into the build quality and keeps manufactures honest.

[@seekingadventures]

Only if he orders one himself and not if they send him one to test. They could send him one to review that’s modified so they get a good review.

[@VoteDemocracy]

Agreed. Need to verify class A cells and internal hardware used in manufacture.

[@markmonroe7330]

Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.

[@rickhealey3941]

Love seeing the inside connections. Seems to have so many companys with terrible construction. It can make a difference long term

[@user-xc5hp4eu7b]

I voted in the last poll to not chop the batteries up but in this case I support the decision to do a tear down because these LiTime minis are not the standard prismatic cells but pouch cells and I wanted to see the interior arrangement of pouches, BMS board etc. PS I have already purchased a mini and expect its arrival in 5 days. Thanks for asking your viewers.

[@YallAintRight]

How is it doing?

[@ChuckBradfordPhotography]

I would think if I was to recieve a battery with the top cut off, I could epoxy it back to greatness. I would say cutting to inspect bms and construction is worthy of effort.

[@bradenabbott2707]

I have the older "big" version of this battery and my buddy just got this new Mini. We both built DIY power stations with them and saved like $700 compared to an all in one unit. Longer warranties and the ability to replace or upgrade modular parts is great.

[@kimmer6]

I just finished my 11th home built power box... bolted to the floor in my old GMC camper van between the front seats. 300 amp hr Chins, 2000 watt Renogy inverter, 40 amp Renogy MPPT, BT-2 blue tooth, Renogy battery meter, 400 watts of panels on top, USB and 12 volt outlets, proper fuses. My friend's 8 month old Ecoflow in his motorhome went dead one morning. They sent him another within 2 weeks. I have all kinds of spare inverters, MPPT units, parts galore if anything fails. My friend uses his EcoFlow to power up electronic for music gigs and really depends on battery power.

[@JustScottPaid]

Hey Braden, since it's been a few more months...have you guys noticed any difference between the two batteries, as far as performance?

[@JimboP-Outside]

Another great video, thank you. No need to chop the top off - if I really need to see that (and I don’t) Will Prose will likely do so at some point.

[@nordic5490]

Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.

[@nathanchristopher8585]

Just wanted to drop in and say that your promo code saved me $530 on a SunGoldPower solar kit that was already on sale - thanks so much for all you do!

[@herb7877]

Love the “Jaguar ” fuse box reference. As a diy guy, I’m a shade tree mechanic as well. Without a doubt the British Leyland electoral systems are a nightmare for me in the old days . Don’t chop them up. Most don’t even know what they’re looking at. I purposely didn’t buy my lipo4’s with the heating element. Wasn’t worth the extra cost as I do not charge at night and not that many days is it below freezing in my local. I just flip a switch to start or stop the charging.

[@kimmer6]

Over the years, I had 8 Triumph Spitfires and 6 of the GT-6 cars. Lucas sucked. When I needed a heater fan switch from the British Only wrecking yard, out of 10 cars, all would be missing the heater switch. Many other electrical parts were similar. I bought these cars cheap...2 things ALWAYS wrong....rear axle U-joints would fail and knock badly as you stopped and the tiny joke of a clutch disk would be worn out.

[@nz0z134]

I do like the teardowns, they are great for seeing the actual build quality

[@GroovyVideo2]

cut open with Hot soldering iron (solder Tip knife blade type work good for this) then glue back super glue or maybe PVC - depends on plastic type I like seeing what is inside - build quality -

[@rilopez825]

I bought one. Works great. My first project it’s a house battery for my Jeep wrangler to run my fridge.

[@reempire888]

You have the best in depth product video hands down. Thank you professor Hobo!

[@mannys4036]

You have the heart of a nomad. The community has a solid reputation of helping others in need. It reflects your heart and desire to help people with limited needs. When you are on BLM camping and obtain a way to harness energy from the sun, it is a life changer and makes life more manageable. You could make a follow up video with the people you have given them and see how the battery is holding up. It's too bad they cannot send you two for your research; one to open and the other to pay it forward.

[@jepito29]

Cutting open is the only way to see the build quality. I’d say it’s just as important as the rest of the testing

[@genekied]

As a side note, I really appreciate the reviews on this channel. You seem to tell it pretty much straight-up - if it's crap we know and if it's gold we know. Thanks!

[@lilbobross4626]

I love the analog clock with the DC power test fast forwarded. Gives it a mission impossible vibe!

[@ericklein5097]

The teardown does make or break my purchasing decision. I don't buy unless I know whats under them. I bought these minis because I saw the build quality of the pouch cells and that put me at ease. I think most people could still make use of these batteries if you used a chisel to pop the top off. I know some aren't so easy and require power tools for choppin

[@Mr.Avuncular]

DEAR PROFESSOR HOBO.... CONTINUE TO DONATE....THATS A GREAT WAY TO PAY IT FORWARD 👍❤️🙏🙏🙏

[@Footprintsinthewilderness]

Very very helpful to see the configuration inside. I've seen some reviews that point out problems that are not seen inside. Thank you for all your reviews they help very much. Winter coming soon and would love to purchase one of your batteries you've opened up would be a nice back up for my solar generator.

[@280zone]

Can you ask the companies for a cut away photo for including in the videos? Then you can comment on components but still retain a good battery to give away.

[@gacputech7719]

That sounds like an awesome idea!

[@gacputech7719]

I think chopping is important to keep the battery manufacturers honest and on their toes. I'd be glad to purchase one of your chopped up units to build an initial backup system for myself. Thanks for your great and informative videos!

[@rogermurphy1548]

I can see the point in cutting the top off to check the quality. I can also appreciate the fact that you donate them. Whatever you decide, will have no affect on the fact that I watch most all of your videos

[@lakejeaz]

Yes I want to see the tear down before I decide to buy. Especially on a new model / form factor. Thanks!

[@dkillian33]

Don't worry about cutting the top off. I trust the tests.

[@bimmerboard]

Yes, I'd like to see the insides of the battery, especially when it's something different or unusual, like this mini format.

[@ItsEverythingElse]

These mini form factors are going to be very popular.

[@adamw4469]

Great video as always Professor!

[@pdieppa]

Yes!!!! Thank you for the intro fx.

[@maverick3276]

I agree that seeing the build quality helps keep manufacturers honest but it won't stop me from watching your videos. I like that you are letting other people use the items you review, why have it go to waste.

[@markmonroe7330]

Really been looking to some of the smaller form factor/weight reviews. Power Queen has one as well. Would love to see tests on more of these. This weight and form factor really helps in the truck for camping.

[@Seafariireland]

Super review! Thank you.

[@jamespeters920]

Great review once again. Best on the Tube!

[@milliondollar2981]

DONT CHOP💥 We have all seen dozens of these opened up and we know that they're built pretty good these days, we take your word for it, i will buy it!

[@shafeelchang2682]

I'm thoroughly impressed with the compact size and current price of this product. Its weight is similar to typical 100amp LiFePO4 batteries, or a pound or two lighter in some instances. I own an RV and have been contemplating adding extra batteries, and this may be the perfect solution for me.

[@JohnWick40345]

This is very educational and basically tells us to buy the bigger one so it dont over heat.

[@rockinvanlife]

I would say don’t cut into it or any of them. Much better to pass them on to those that are in need. 👍

[@nordic5490]

Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.

[@andrewvickers4487]

Loving this thing, thank you! As an off-grid newbie I've only recently got up to speed on all things power stations and using batteries like these hasn't really come up during countless hours of browsing, which is criminal! Looks like the big name brands are making us spend more and think less.

[@SingleTrackMined]

Yes, cutting the top off is a great idea. It is very important to know the construction. I won't buy a battery if I haven't seen inside.

[@brookedolby6853]

😂😂. I'm picturing Jason in a Walmart, buzzing off the tops of batteries. 😂😂

[@jeremyhall134]

I almost got 2 of these, but managed to find a 230 ah that took up a minimally smaller space and a higher capacity. With that being said, a pre-existing compartment, these would be the way to go for sure! Great video!

[@kele1264]

ODIN !!!! ❤🤗

[@livingadventure2988]

Enlight and subscribe!

[@justicator]

I think it would be great to give them away, but seeing the guts and quality of construction is very valuable.

[@LKMedia_Official]

Thank you very much great video and great comparison with the full-size battery!

[@curve5746]

Please donate the batteries. People like me and my family really need them to survive. Thank you for the awesome information

[@kamikazekunze]

Leave it alone and donate it! Love the video 😊

[@jonjohns8145]

Hey Prof. Don't worry about Cutting open the battery. Others have done that, nothing special about doing that. And if you plan to donate it to someone else, no need for the waste.

[@catch22frubert]

Hey professor! I know I'm late to the party on giving advice for the disassembly of the batteries you review, but I think having a look inside of certain batteries could be useful. If it's a standard size, standard weight battery for it's ratings, it's likely to have standard prismatic Lifepo4 cells inside and probably one of the standard BMS units used in most of the drop in LiFePO4 batteries. It's only when something new or special comes in that opening it up to see how it works or what cells and BMS are being used that opening the top could give you and your viewers valuable information. You are always going to have the crowd that won't buy anything unless they see what exactly is being used inside the battery, and you could absolutely still do that on every battery without compromising the seal around the top of the battery. It will require extra work and a little extra investment on your part, but it wouldn't be difficult to do. To start, you need to stick the battery in a deep freezer for about 24 hours. This will make the silicone or glue used to seal the top of the battery very brittle. From there, you should be able to take something like a putty knife and a dead blow hammer, and break the seal around the top of the battery without damaging anything at all. Now you are inside the battery with no damage. To get it back together with a functional seal around the top again, you can refreeze the original sealant and scrape off what remains on the top and on the battery casing, which will allow you to cleanly reseal the battery to have it's original weather protection and water resistance. As a backup, you could always get a plastic welder and go around the top of the battery after resealing, and you will be guaranteed to have a water tight seal again. Honestly, the new sealant you choose to go around the top of the battery should be enough to make it waterproof again, but if you really want to make sure it's waterproof, the plastic welder would certainly finish the job and make it perfect.

[@milliondollar2981]

You are so good at opening em up,,,makes me question if you are swaping out the innards and returning them for refund?🤔 haha

[@SailingWithVampires]

I like the old clock. Nice touch!

[@matthewburga]

Victron Smart Battery Sense is a great addition to a LiFePo battery with no low temp protection. It is a temperature sensor for your battery. It will also send your MPPT the terminal voltage for more accurate charging.

[@ferebeefamily]

Thank you for the video.

[@michaelblackstock6140]

Thanks HoboTech :-)

[@patricktrier4503]

There are plenty of people cutting these open on youtube. I am perfectly happy with your reviews. Give them to someone who could use them.

[@EfficientRVer]

The good news is that more brands are selling 100Ah mini form factor now, though I haven't seen it spread to 200Ah yet. Some aren't even calling their mini a mini, so I advise checking the dimensions in photos and descriptions to find some that the marketers are describing poorly, hence are likely to be cheaper and in stock. I scored one that way this week. Amazon recommended a Lightning Deal to me on an Eco-Worthy, and sure enough, it was mini form factor dimensions without saying so. So I grabbed it for $246 shipped with 10 minutes to spare. All the usual suspects (Redodo, Power Queen, LiTime, etc) for $350-$370, occasionally discounted to $310ish. So I'm pretty happy with the Lightning Deal. This is going to be one crazy November for 12V fridges, LiFePO4 batteries, power stations, and (you heard it here first) vehicle scan tools which might be as low as half what they were last year.

[@WanderingToes41]

Give them away! Big plus to your channel!

[@DavidSelf3]

I'm all about the Hobotech! 💪

[@rc2639]

Yes, I’d need to see the inside’s especially because the BMS kicks in pretty late and I’d want to know what’s causing the hot spot inside and why.

[@tonydoris1980]

Thanks for sharing, great video! Lithium batteries are much lighter than traditional lead-acid batteries. But LiTime 100ah min battery is even lighter and smaller! This is my dream battery!

[@greengooseman]

please use/get a thermal camera, the temp gun can easily overlook really hot spots

[@Tilley52]

i like the chopped top videos, It lets one know how well the battery might last long term. i like to know the quality of whats in there.

[@kele1264]

Opening the box would not influence my decision. It's about trusting you to make judgments about them and inform us. Chopping the top off, I have no idea what I'm looking at anyway, for the most part.

[@kele1264]

Don't get me wrong, I love to see the inner workings of things and have them explained, without doing it myself and having it cost me money. Or kill me. My SocSec stretches just far enough to cover my basics. But necessary to make a purchase when it has your blessing. Nah.

[@1stMrSoundguy]

The batteries that you open are still good for diy projects like pelican or Gerry can ammo can builds I'd like them

[@21degrees]

No need to chop because without Freeze protection I would not buy the product. I want to compliment you on getting higher amperage charging equipment. I suggested - you delivered ! ! Great Job. Cheers !

[@loucinci3922]

No chop. Make a friend who could make good use of it. Thanks for sharing

[@leonelbourque2004]

Thanks!

[@natesdiysolar]

Good review. Iv been thinking a lot about why they might not put low temp cut off and the only thing I can come up with is that in an extreme environment where that battery could potentially save your life they rather have it give up its life in stead.. however, a manual self heating function could make sense as it would not take much to heat a small footprint battery like this IF the case was well insulated.

[@Webcrawler45]

These would be a great battery for replacing the Ryobi Riding lawn mower Lead Acid batteries (4 needed). I did it with the larger REDODO 100AH batteries but it was a really tight fit. (I would note these are slightly taller than the old 100ah design)

[@SmallVansBigWorld]

How they working for you? I've been consider just changing mine with a 48v server rack battery. So I don't have to worry about balancing the 4 independent batteries.

[@brazilianredneck]

I sure appreciate the videos and IMHO there's information enough throughout all the tests. I don't really care for how they look inside.

[@robprideaux3279]

Great video thanks. You say any charger will work as long as it outputs 14,4-14,6v ? I am thinking of getting one but use an Optimate Ampmatic 6 , this should then charge a lifepo4 battery?

[@diver1735]

I go to your website because you do complete testing. What are the cells? What changes gave the ability to go smaller? Pouches? What brand? Connections?

[@ExposingTruth2screwoligarchy]

I REALLY like these minis as far as size and weight, they could entice me to take the plunge to do a bit of DIY so I have some decent energy storage. hmmmm.... Edit: I am a senior with some back problems, so I avoid heavier items as much as I can. 20 pounds is easy, over 30 pounds can often be a problem.

[@LoveRise]

Chop, chop, chop to verify wiring and build!🔨🔨🔨

[@Miketime969]

Cutting open is important as I strip them for the cells and need to see type and if they are welded or bolted

[@user-vm7db1gn6k]

Very interesting!

[@victorjoseph8948]

the only reason i might buy a 12v 50ah battery it is to expand my bluetti EB3A whour capacity. .But when i buy the bluetti AC200L imight buy the 12v 100ah with BMS intigrated for recharge purposes. with my small solar system maximum 400 watts panels. another good review hobotech most appreciated from up north Canada

[@Snerdles]

I like seeing it chopped up to see the build quality. Maybe if you can find another person to link to who chops it then leave it whole, but if you can't then show the innards.

[@davidclarke9570]

Dissection of a battery can be all important in ascertaining the overall build quality and bms quality independently. Therefore, I vote to dissect at all costs..........

[@sebastianjuarez8601]

Keep the tops on!

[@Gordonseries385]

👍 I remember way back then submarine surplus batteries were cheap. You buy the lot next door for your battery backups.... lol

[@jtyreetex]

I don't plan on doing any boondocking, just want to run some lights and the ice box when driving. What size battery do I need? Rv has a residential 20 cu/ft ice box. Great video.

[@matthewprather7386]

Instead of cutting open the battery why not drill a few holes to scope it in a few places with a camera (endoscope from Amazon). Small holes would be pretty easy tape or glue patches over. Even if you cut the top off, ABS isn’t too hard to glue - it’s not like polyethylene. Can buy strips to make patches with. Someone could make a video on gluing the top back on batteries that Hobo cut apart!

[@PBVader]

Chop tops? That's another channels' gig. I come here for your tests, and comedy.

[@surfingcuriositywaves4046]

Some bright person could really sell a well designed temperature based 12v 150 amp relay that is packaged as an 'inline' device which can simply be attached between any battery and the charging source. This general purpose relay is not difficult in concept, but sourcing the components and putting them into a robust dustproof and water resistant package would take a little work.

[@TacticalThib]

@hobotech i really think you should give them to people that really need them you say you have so many you don't know what to do with them. I just found your channel i was searching for a way to use power tool batteries for some how storing energy im so confused on what i need though you're channel has been amazing i simply thought you could just batteries and panels not knowing about charge controller and everything else included. I didn't realize how much everything is it has blown my mind i cannot afford all these things tho i desperately need them to make my camper safe for my family. And have enough power to cook and shower and cool these insane temps in the summer here in Louisiana. Thank you for all the knowledge and yeah instead of wasting them there are families struggling times are hard seriously. Thanks again have a wonderful evening.

[@ethannewhouse7541]

I'm team NO CHOP. Please don't add to consumer waste by ruining a perfectly good battery that someone could use for a decade or more. Just my opinion. Keep up the awesome reviews.

[@MrZeissOne]

It is nice to know about quality of components, as well as assembly, but maybe open up one of each battery brand.

[@deejay8153]

battery charging and discharging time testing is only accurate if the battery is fully back to room temperature after each test. The exterior case may show a slightly elevated temperature, however the internal temperatures on the cells will be significantly higher. Unless the battery has external thermocouple ports to read these temps, letting it sit for 5 min does next to nothing. It would need to sit for several hours for accurate time testing.

[@SM-re3ph]

I need to see the build quality/ cells inside to make.a purchasing decision.

[@pmurphy12667]

yes take that top off and let's see what is made of and how they are constructed

[@gtllamas6558]

Thank you for your review. I think it's great that you share the batteries with people who need them. I think the battery should stay intact so someone can benefit from it. As always, I like the information you share.

[@huckfin1100]

All kayakers should get one for their trolling motors

[@annnnonnymous]

I couldnt care less about what it looks like in the "budget" batteries, but I would want to hold "premium" manufacturers to a higher standard. So those are worth checking on.

[@budherod5569]

I would say no to chopping up good batteries just to look inside. Now if the battery suddenly goes on a rampage then it should be cut open to see what we might expect to happen to our batteries. I am wondering though about using two of these mini's in series for extended service on a four wheeled handicapped scooter for my wife. I have just the right amount of space to replace the two 12V X 35A SLA batteries that are on the scooter, but like your poll I have gotten both pros and cons feedback on using LiFePO4 vs lead/acid batteries. Any thoughts or suggestions ???

[@DesertVan]

The king decrees OFF WITH ITS HEAD!!!!!🤴🤴🤴

[@BretSnyder]

No, do not cut them open. It’s a waste for the environment. Most viewers wouldn’t care once they see the insides once or twice. Your format is perfect as it is. And it’s cool that you donate. Nice way to pay it forward.

[@SuperSnidely]

If KZbinr's chop the top off, there are no longer "Secrets" to what is inside. Seems like a compelling reason for the manufacturer to do an indepth "open case" expose' of their batteries. There - we can have it both ways - independent testing - and manufacturer insights. Cheers

[@clarencewiles963]

Ok I’m ready for power up😊

[@user-zw7ij3pf3t]

Hobo,thank you for Posting this video! Have you had the opportunity to perform the same test on the LiTime 230ah PLUS battery?