LIVE: MA v. Karen Read Day 19 - Killer Or Cover-Up Murder Trial | COURT TV

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00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 19 00:14:03 State Witness #51) Kevin O’Hara, Lt Mass State Police 02:24:56 State Witness #52) Maureen Hartnett, Forensic Scientist, Mass State Police Crime Lab 06:01:16 State Witness #53) Ashley Vallier, Forensic Scientist, Mass State Police Crime Lab #CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇 MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?

[@marcianoyes8743]

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[@lisaforte1575]

Why has no one suggested putting a traveling microphone on the prosecutor, Mr. Lally?!

[@pennicochrane8886]

? You can't hear him?

[@lindaeason3480]

@@pennicochrane8886 Not well

[@jovicrazed]

Dude desparately nees a lapel mic. Cannot hear him at all.

[@Lpop723]

Lally sucks

[@Rn.Lisa.W]

Maybe they don't want him to be heard

[@Gidget_Lynn]

Another day without court for tomorrow? What in the hail is happening here. If I was a juror I would be so annoyed and confused.

[@lindaeason3480]

So much for constitutional speedy trial, right?

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

Get a life in between?

[@jenniferpryor8037]

The jurors must not have jobs because how can they take off so long? Or do they go to work on their days off from court?

[@katrinat.3032]

I think the jurors are probably happy. I mean come on, They’re getting paid nine dollars a day.

[@BoxerClover]

@@jenniferpryor8037 they can 'take time off' b/c it's the law. it doesn't effect their time off & by law they must still be paid their regular work salary.

[@luvlee1293]

Praying for the O'keefe family, I know this is hard going through this trial.

[@pennicochrane8886]

Its terrible!! So Distraught and SHE shows nothing When she's outside All of her FANS ARE IN AWE OF HER AND BIG SMILES. HE'S DEAD AND SHE LOVES THAT DISGUSTING ATTENTION

[@williamfield6285]

Curious as to where Brian Higgins was during the 40 minutes of missing security footage at the sally port. Which just happens to coincide with the arrival of Karen's car

[@debbiequinn3284]

She's loving this attention I hope they come up with a verdict today this has dragged on to long . Let's get this over

[@annarose4828]

Lally we can't hear you!!!!!! JUDGE PLEASE TELL HIM 2 TALK UP!!!!

[@MWe-hr9lh]

She did! 100 times! She was clearly annoyed with him today.

[@brandybiscoff9685]

So was the court reporter!!! When he kept talking while she tried to mark exhibits.

[@Amontillado72]

No one needs to hear Lallly... his evidence and witnesses are manipulated anyways😂

[@lyndaczika6327]

@@MWe-hr9lhor tell him to stay at the mic!!

[@tiesjwan]

Verdict: everyone has a drinking problem.

[@ogcatlady]

And needs to learn how to lock their phones so they quit butt dialing

[@lolabear3230]

Objection

[@KathleenHelms-nq1vk]

Everyone in that town were driving while drinking.

[@Dove225]

Your words are not true your accusations are not true. I’ve never drank a day in my life. I grew up seeing what drinking could do to a family so I made the decision to never touch. It never have and never will and I’m sure many people out there think the way that I do.

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Why havn't they mentioned the Police offiers etc Driving on Alcohol THAT NIGHT

[@Fido-vm9zi]

If the person hacking & coughing is unnecessary-they should leave the court.

[@hoznozhoznoz4261]

Lally to with his huffing after objection.

[@jenniferlaster5419]

How can anyone in their right mind think Karen Read is innocent? 🤪 She glares at witnesses with her 🦆lips. Just gives off that VERY deceitful vibe! 🤥

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

TRUE WORDS, I SEE IT TOO. ​@@jenniferlaster5419

[@beachgirl468]

@@jenniferlaster5419 She is looking at the witnesses. That's all. It's her trial, she's permitted to look intently at them and she's going to! Defendants are told by their attorneys to look stoic and remain without emotion in the courtroom ~ no faces, no reactions..... they need to remain neutral and unaffected by testimony. Emotions, facial expressions and reactions reflect poorly on the defendant and jurors don't generally like that.

[@1970KID]

I think the person coughing is the female defence council

[@andreajoy6135]

The judge acts like this is so tedious for her. While the prosecutor is showing the victim’s clothing evidence, she is irritated there are too many pictures? Is it so much work for the court reporter to label them? Seems disrespectful and unprofessional.

[@kristinruder473]

Exactly! Isn’t that the court reporter’s job? A man died here, deal with it!

[@DMiller912]

So we're supposed to believe a single hair traveled almost 60 miles sitting on the back of the SUV!!! 😂😂

[@MaureenODonovan]

It's hard to remove a hair in a wet sink sticks like glue. Car was dripping wet in snow. They have not testify who's hair.

[@loriduffecy9205]

I hope the jury wonders how the hair traveled in the blizzard 🥶

[@polybiuschampion7225]

And little plastic pieces also.

[@helenhoward362]

Maureen... but they never swabbed the tail light due to a blizzard, and the suv traveled on a flat bed but found a hair and glass on the side of the suv, not embedded...

[@MaureenODonovan]

Bumper had several inches of snow on top of glass pieces

[@josephgrgurich3972]

That is terrible ! You knew that jury would screw this up. She confessed, I did it !I did it ! Also, all that testimony for naught. They need to move the retrial far from the first one. The only thing that makes sense is that community along with court tv, there hosts and all there so- called experts are anti- police. Not a slam dunk, but she is guilty and to me it is clear. This is the difference between a guilty person and proving that guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@ATTYPCJW]

I agree she is guilty 🎯🎯🎯💯👏

[@MichelleMybell-pn5us]

I agree. I bet some of the jurors are so annoyed.During the hearings the judge was fed up and said that things needed to speed up and move along yet look at how many days they have half days and days off. Bev seems crabby today.😠 Happy Monday!

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

Lally is the reason it is taking forever. “So, what, if anything did you see or hear when sort of you arrived at the scene?” Then he repeats everything back. If he would stop repeating back what they answer and drop the “what if anything” and “sort of” that would save a lot of time. It would shave at least a day or 2 off of this trial. And his leading questions that he asks so he can get the rehearsed answers he needs is ridiculous. Defense lets it go because they know he has nothing and is so out of his league. At least he has the Judge in his pocket but only because of people above him with power who are pulling the strings.

[@suebdoo5152]

It’s disturbing watching KR and team laughing and giggling during this trial. Very disrespectful!

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

They are not doing that much. What is disgusting is alllll the lies and stories and evilness these witnesses spew out like they are talking about lunch.

[@ItsMeSienna]

What because all the witnesses are falling on their arses and debunking all the lies? I'd be smiling too!

[@lyndaczika6327]

I haven’t seen much of that at all?? Are you watching the same trial?

[@Pete_KPJ]

There's no way this jury can get beyond the reasonable doubt milestone

[@RoyEGomez]

The missing video tape at the Canton Police Department really worries me

[@kennywoo9012]

Right. Really shows the level of corruption

[@DMiller912]

I think it says all we need to know. Way too many coincidences in this trial.

[@MaureenODonovan]

According to the turtle the wife beater

[@MWe-hr9lh]

@@MaureenODonovan who??

[@josephkain6213]

​@MWe-hr9lh There is lots of hate for the guy who originally broke this case wide open. Completely delusional McAlbutts defense. Not only does the technology prove a conspiracy it maps it out in great detail.

[@1970KID]

Wouldn’t John O’Keefe have lower body wounds if he’d been knocked over by a car?

[@anitafowler622]

Have they suggested he was tying his shoe? I missed that.

[@ATTYPCJW]

No the care was an SUV plus he was tall. She is guilty

[@Colin2324]

Did I hear correctly that the search team found the first few pieces of plastic at the same time the car was being impounded 30 miles away ?

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

So ? The car was at search scene previously

[@joditurrisi6004]

Was it taillight the found or reflectors?

[@Amontillado72]

Proctor provided all evidence ...so state witnesses testify on manipulated evidence or items....

[@scottaremillardgmail]

Well I seen where she backed in to a vehicle leaving her driveway. And people who has the means to access her tail light and anybody could’ve taking hair from his dead body in planet it on her vehicle and people can’t see all these people squirming in the chair when Mr. Jackson is questioning them because I sure can

[@scottaremillardgmail]

Tell the truth something bad happened at that house his arm was cut and his eyes were swollen closed and vertical is not going to do that to him a SUV in fact that was definitely 💯 blows to the face and had and maybe the dog was involved all they were night marks

[@josephkain6213]

Technologies tell the sickening tale.

[@Amontillado72]

"Tell them the guy never went into the house" Matt McCabe.."Colin was not at the house when John was there" Ally McCabe "Hos long to die in the cold" Jen McCabe ..butt dial after butt dial....and one cute little hair on a car that made it miles and miles without falling down despite of a blizzard. Hos long does it take to turn a tragedy into nationwide comedy? 😂

[@pennicochrane8886]

Enough with the people in the house and the phones calls! That's old news now! She is so guilty, Defence is now loosing.

[@MWe-hr9lh]

@@pennicochrane8886how is a fact of a trial that is on RIGHT NOW old news?? Or is it that you just wish those nasty details would go away? 😢

[@mariap4828]

@@MWe-hr9lhI think that person above you was referring to the comment above Them. It is certainly current news!

[@prisonersdilemma939]

What is your theory on how the hair got there? Did Proctor go the morgue, pluck a hair from a corpse, taking it back to the sally port to stick it in the exact location of the SUV that hit John? Please use critical thinking skills when thinking about what would be required for anyone to plant John’s hair on that SUV. If you do, you’ll know that Read is guilty.

[@jenniferpryor8037]

Did DNA confirm that it was John’s hair or just a hair?

[@Steffanie-n1i]

If you want to support Karen read that is your God given right to do so but a man is dead have some dignity about it this isn't a circus

[@kingduran007]

Kevin O’Hara is very smart and accurate

[@helenhoward362]

Why is tbis judge sustaining these questions...shouldn't she WANT TO KNOW ???

[@kennywoo9012]

Nah that's aunt bev. Good friends of the alberts. She doesn't want certain things coming out unfortunately

[@lindaeason3480]

On the side of the prosecution rather than fair trial for the defendant obviously

[@josephkain6213]

Auntie Bev alteady knows silly.

[@emmitt5443]

Very bad day for Karen and the body language from Karen and her team says they know it That was not a dog attack.

[@1970KID]

Just the lack of care collecting and processing evidence in this case is a massive worry. It’s screaming reasonable doubt!

[@kellypujue999]

john’s brother looks so conflicted 😐 n confused i hope he gets closure and him n KR can be ok ❤

[@BoxerClover]

i hope so, too. but that's a pretty big ask.

[@ATTYPCJW]

Well she put every one in a bad place due to her jealousy and possessiveness. This woman is guilty. No remorse cold as, and laughing.

[@kingduran007]

The judge is always worried about extra time then why are they taking so many days off and half days

[@dianesweat6015]

For sure maybe Aunt Bev is giving the prosecution more time to find more evidence I mean that makes as much sense as all this other evidence that's coming up the hair found . I have never watched a trial and I watch a lot that have so many days off

[@michellew3441]

Her hands were full with other cases but felt a need to be on THIS case. I really don’t like her, I think she’s getting a little better, I wonder if someone is telling her about the comments or she’s reading them herself because she was almost unbearable the first week. There are plenty of judges I have watched and the outcome didn’t go the way I wanted but at the end I thought that was a great and fair judge, I don’t feel that way with this judge, she’s incredibly unlikeable and unfair in my opinion.

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Haha i agree everyone want to work part time since lockdown. Some judges ie in Chad Daybell case is on ZOOM. Just why is that ? NO NEED AT ALL

[@basicallyno1722]

And then let’s Lally talk about the weather for 10 days straight

[@kingduran007]

Quit smirking and laughing Karen very rude and disrespectful to the family

[@ATTYPCJW]

The glass and hair can be frozen on the car, from where they took it to where she took her samples. Then when it got to where she did the test the frost would have melted. This is why it was easy to be removed. The question should be asked if there water on the car when they got to where she did the testing. Being put in the garage all snow and frost would have melted.

[@JudySoames]

They have to match the Lexus otherwise she wouldn’t be in court

[@MotheroftheMarvels]

So 13 days later still finding red pieces 🤔 strange that not a single member of the "family " didn't notice debris on their lawn, of course you'd go look if you were LE, the whole pretending lack of interest is suspicious imo. So far CW haven't proved their case in any way let alone BRD.

[@BoxerClover]

so 28 months later still using the same tired & useless arguments. 🤔

[@MotheroftheMarvels]

@BoxerClover so 20 months later the CW or the witnesses still can't explain numerous "butt dials" between so called witnesses who were asleep/making love. Yeah I often "make love l" 🤦‍♀️ with my phone in my pocket or butt dial onto my bedside table 🤣 I didn't delete my search history, we didn't lose any video, the crime scene was secured, no one had access to evidence, no one knows each other. Ok Chris 👍 🙄

[@BoxerClover]

@@MotheroftheMarvels so 20 minutes later you're so bothered & triggered u write a short novel & still make no sense.

[@MotheroftheMarvels]

@@BoxerClover 🤣🤣🤣

[@MotheroftheMarvels]

@BoxerClover yeah so bothered it took me 20 minutes to bother to read your pish. I'm actually pmsl that when faced with facts the McAlbert/Canton mindless can't even come back with facts! Keep proving my point whilst I enjoy my 🍷 & 🍿

[@frendleek]

Why is auntie Bev asking the prosecutor if he wants to object why is she doing the prosecutors job and helping him that is so wrong!!!

[@lindsaybarnes4002]

Agree 💯 and it was only objected to because he knows it's a mess. The judge should have never made that objection. They'll get it into evidence when they present their case

[@lolabear3230]

Because that what happens in a trial when they are putting evidence in they either state objection or no objection it's not a trick question . Some people are so thick 😅😅

[@frendleek]

@@lolabear3230 You must be talking about how thick your brain is because he did not object she objected for him. That’s the point.

[@KathleenHelms-nq1vk]

The judge parties with the Albert's and friends and goes with them to their vacation home.

[@KathleenHelms-nq1vk]

The judge parties with the Albert's and friends and goes with them to their vacation home.

[@newenglandcoast7121]

I wish the viewers could actually hear the attorney's questions.

[@BoxerClover]

judge keeps asking witnesses 2 speak up. when she did so last wk people said she was rude.

[@newenglandcoast7121]

@@BoxerClover Right. But it's the attorneys' questions I can't hear.

[@cypresswisteria]

I started it over, and still no date. Why is the state not asking for the date, of the search, and the arrival time. Where were the pieces of plastic found, in relation to where O'Keefe's body was found?

[@charlenemyers188]

Michael Proctor and his inappropriate communications to and with others by text has sealed my opinion in favor of Ms. Read. Trooper Proctor should be disciplined. Ms. Read should sue the State.

[@ATTYPCJW]

I think KR is telling her attorneys what they should be asking.

[@RoyEGomez]

They talked about a hair on the back of the SUV that traveled 60 mi in a snowstorm on the back of a tow truck and never said it was J.Okeefs.

[@helenhoward362]

And that 1 Yair stuck to the suv...also the glass that stayed on the upperside of the bumper

[@truthbetold3935]

You’re talking about freezing conditions here.

[@wavylos9029]

I don’t see the defense in the courtroom with that ridiculous bulletin science board with his arm ? During arraignment they showed up with it just to get it on tv and get reactions and views , this sounds like the right time to show the jurors how a dog did that to his arm …. This dog is suppose to me a police / rescue dog and supposedly taken John down while people in the house killed him yet a German shepherd just decided to use its paws and lick him 😅😅 google dog bites in arm and see if you see any significance with what you see on the photos and you mean to tell me the dog only attacked one area ? Dogs will try and bite you else where if they don’t get a grip on you right away , which that would be the case here …. But to a clown 🤡 the sky was purple

[@mariap4828]

⁠​⁠@@truthbetold3935yes. But blowing gusty wind and it getting stuck to possible ice on the top of the bumper. I’ll even give you that. But guess what? There was no snow in the sallyport! There was no snow on the car or ice on the car or wet on the car. How could you Possibly still think someone’s hair would POSSIBLY still be there on a Vertical surface of a slick painted surface? The answers are …the plastic on the lawn was placed In a small pile. The clear plastic on the bumper was also just placed there and the hair? That’s right the hair was also Not from the scene either.

[@MFC7625]

KR and O'Keefe were both using the car. Why wouldn't you find O'Keefe's hair on the car? Scratches on the car could have been done anywhere. They didn't find blood.

[@mazg47g88]

This case really is messed up, they should be growing wings by now and yet they are still at plan b, very disappointing

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

I think the Defence are really good they are excellent and do not leave any stone unturned.

[@mazg47g88]

Some what agree, but that’s there job

[@cypresswisteria]

Why did the tail light plastic fall outward, instead of inward?

[@taraann7753]

I would fall apart if I had to go into a witness stand and have these Barristers continually throwing questions at me…very interesting to watch though.

[@pennicochrane8886]

The defence, is loosing as more and more is coming out!

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

You would be ok if you were telling the truth i reckon but it must be nerve racking

[@martinezlucia101]

Can’t they just increase the volume or sensitivity of the prosecutor or witness mics? What is so difficult I don’t understand.

[@InjuriousPersonalities]

Did anyone else notice the “Jesus Christ..” at 6:38:58 lol 😂looked like it came from the defense table

[@lilzabug]

That was Lally right before he sank back into his seat. He's been caught on a hot mic before.

[@InjuriousPersonalities]

@@lilzabug no 🤦‍♂️ lol he was speaking at that time

[@lilzabug]

@@InjuriousPersonalities Actually you are the one trying to start something. He was not speaking at the time or you wouldn't have heard the comment. He was shuffling through papers looking for something.

[@floare3216]

⁠@@lilzabugI also heard it and thought it must have been Lally. I even went back on the video to see if it would be obvious who said it from the video. I laughed with so much pleasure. I would feel the same, if I would be in his shoes. The stress he is under… either because he is the perfect prosecutor who would not let a killer get away despite all the obstacles in his way or because he cannot get out of this “thing” now that he started it. Either way, “Jesus Christ, Mr. Lally, Jesus Christ!” Btw, it was followed by a one of the judges constant and incredible unprofessional sighs.

[@Sheila-hw4us]

The Judge again...still! Get off the bench permanently, you obviously hate your job! What's the hurry? I've never seen a judge with such horrendous behavior. Retire and get some help from your GYN...you are obviously overwhelmed.

[@kingduran007]

Why does Karen always sit down before anyone else

[@BoxerClover]

royalty always sits before peasants.

[@dr.elysetursi]

I wonder what John’s parents think about who did this

[@lynneb620]

They believe that Karen is guilty !

[@MWe-hr9lh]

…and John also took his parents to court for custody of the kids. Not a good or stable relationship with his family. Sadly. 😢

[@wavylos9029]

You wonder 😂😂😂😂 you little wondering butterfly 😅😅😅 you can’t possible think they think Karen read did it … they attend cook outs , they helped pay for her legal fees , she even slept @ their house … they are just sitting on the other side of the bench for Tv purposes they don’t believe for a second she killed their son , all they know for a fact is that Karen murdered John that night …. Does that answer your wondering brain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@pennicochrane8886]

Must horrible and sitting rt. Near that thing. Would be hard for so many families! She is so guilty

[@kimk8415]

They did not take his parents to court he took the kids paternal grandparents to court

[@lissayers8901]

If this was caused by something under the vehicle, there should have been thread strands still attached to a jagged something??? Right???

[@BoxerClover]

maybe? but not necessarily.

[@rayhanley4377]

You can hear Gianetti just fine, Lalley not a chance, even the Judge is telling this guy to speak up. Jesus.

[@dianesweat6015]

Maybe he's talking quiet because he knows all this evidence is stacked up against the state I wouldn't want anybody to hear me trying to get truth out of wise give me a break he looks wore out

[@dianesweat6015]

**truth out of lies*

[@christineeaton4985]

How do they not have a microphone for Lally?

[@frendleek]

Not only would anyone believe who has common sense would believe that a piece of a tiny hair or even little tiny pieces of glass sitting on the rear glass light 😛 would survive a blizzard driving 60 miles in a blizzard with wind sleet snow while being towed and also while Karen was driving around before they even towed it cmon!!! no way that is definitely a frame up. They must think people are stupid.

[@BoxerClover]

'no way that is definitely a frame up.' glad u finally saw the light! 💡

[@stevenprice6957]

Don’t things stick to ice ? Wasn’t snow covering the bumper after the crime? It’s not rocket science though the state is not great at presenting things well, especially if there’s a few none thinking jurors among them.

[@frendleek]

@@stevenprice6957 Nice try but it was sitting in the sallyport for a while and they had it either wipe the snow off because there was no snow when the glass was there not buying it for one bit. It wasn’t snowing out when karen read was driving her car around supposedly after she hit him it wasn’t snowing like that in the beginning of the night so there is no excuse it’s just total cover-up.

[@Amontillado72]

Correct....the hair was planted...as the rest was...Let Lally try and try.. Jury already got it 😊

[@caladan10175]

@@Amontillado72 Yup. The hair was planted and the glass was too. And the taillight from her car was somehow acquired and planted too. All within hours of the victim being hit. She just happened to go in reverse for almost 70 feet that night but we all do that for a 3-point turn, don't we? And that magic bullet theory with JFK sounds good too, doesn't it?

[@stroudsburg3]

Yes Margaret that’s exactly what I think. Perhaps you should watch the news once in a while. I also have been watching the entire trial.

[@michellestover2114]

"I don't know when the glass pieces were.. uhh.. uhh.. ended up on the bumper".... wow.. and also, the hair being on the car is not some magic finding. It wasn't even on the bumper/rear area. It was on the side of the car. A car that OJO rode in and had family members he lived with who were also there. The odds of it being there after a huge snow storm and driving several miles, the odds that it was just there rather than someone placed from inside the car where John was that prior night are slim to none.

[@BoxerClover]

spin it however u need 2 help u sleep 2night. 🥱

[@michellestover2114]

There was ZERO spinning anything, that was a direct quote from the witness.. and it is also an actual fact that John was in that car along with his niece and nephew who all share a home with him.. to assume a piece of hair survived that drive or would even be out of place to be in, on or around that car is sheer stupidity. You need help 🤡

[@BoxerClover]

@@michellestover2114 & u need a nose job but u don't hear us complaining.

[@Amontillado72]

State has to put each item on the bumper because the bumper boxed and bit John to death. 😂

[@martinezlucia101]

Did they ever find any other pieces of the broken glass? Other than the pieces on the bumper and the original bottom chunk?

[@daniellecomeau2996]

Why don't they get louder speakers for the microphones?

[@dianesweat6015]

I don't know if they got better microphones Aunt Bev would not have anything to complain about she must be going through the change

[@daniellecomeau2996]

@dianesweat6015 She is a liability for the state with her exacerbation and irritability. I'm surprised that her colleagues haven't taken her aside and spoke with her about the optics of her behavior. It is unprofessional, at the least.

[@joewebster4418]

Not Guilty . Call it a day

[@LegendLength]

Yep even if she purposely rammed him the police have stuffed this case up beyond repair, they need to be investigated and have their procedures analyzed.

[@kingduran007]

Guilty

[@kingduran007]

There is no way this many people tried to frame Karen it doesn’t make sense Most don’t even know who she was

[@jenniferpryor8037]

It doesn’t take that many people. The people that testified today were given evidence to analyze by Proctor.

[@caladan10175]

Exactly. THAT many people ALL colluded to tell the same story to frame someone they barely knew??? The presence of the glass and broken taillight as the proved she was doing 24 mph in reverse for over 60 feet is super inconvenient to the defense. It is absolutely amazing how many people can be hypnotized to ignore hard facts by a youtube influencer looking for content and fame. Amazing.

[@keriissovery9566]

@@caladan10175I know! I can’t believe how many people think she’s innocent. All it takes is to say it’s corruption to make her innocent. She did some shady things too but it’s all ignored 🙄

[@Patricia-kz4rl]

@@caladan10175 I'm thinking 24 m.p.h. in reverse might be just enough momentum to knock John down & he gets pulled under the car. Maybe Johns' drunk, unsteady, slippery ground. There were two M.E.'S. One said there was no way he died from being backed into by a car. The other M.E. said that, no, he would probably not have died from being backed into. But he WOULD have died from being RUN OVER. If she backed into him & he fell, when she then drove forward she could easily have run over him. The wounds all up his arm were not from the dog, there was no canine DNA found. A few people testified that they were sure that when John and Karen left the bar, they both had a glass in their hand. If John had that glass in his right hand (his right arm was cut up) when he went under the car, it could have gotten broken and cut him. His brother testified that his eyes were hugely swollen. I can only imagine what the undercarriage of a vehicle & a tail pipe could do to a body.. It sure sounds a lot more plausible than the ridiculous story Karen and her lawyer cooked up. And WHY, if he was killed in that house, was he put in the front yard and not the back? John was over 6' & weight 200 plus pounds. It is quite aways from the front door of the Arnolds' house to right next to the road It would take at least two men to carry or drag dead weight at least twenty feet or more. What if a car goes by, or someone is standing at their window looking out. Are these people going to risk being seen? Brian Arnolds' sister-in-law, Jen, was very good friends of Johns. Her daughter & Johns' neice were friends for years. This woman is as guilty as the day is long.

[@josephkain6213]

Except for those bogbites and incriminating technology usage by Mcdimbutts

[@IOSALive]

COURT TV, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Law and Crime good too.

[@yvonnedeboer7535]

​​@@user-jq4wb6wo2vThe sound here is better!

[@EldoradoTexas]

It appears that the prosecution believes that if they bore the jurors then they appear more convincing. They just might be right.

[@BoxerClover]

it's not America's Got Talent.

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

I agree i am bored to tears with the voice of the Prosecution. How tiring

[@Grimey-bp9lz]

There are always objections by the prosecution and we never hear the legal pretense, improper form/hearsay/etc. What's up wit dat?

[@lolabear3230]

It saves time . Its obvious what the objections are .

[@helenhoward362]

This judge is atrocious... I hope that the feds are in this courtroom seeing this omfg

[@BoxerClover]

the feds are gone gone gone.

[@DMiller912]

Its going to be very interesting to see the defense's experts reconstruct the way the prosecution says she hit JO. It will not match JO injuries.

[@truthbetold3935]

Sure.

[@truthbetold3935]

So much of what the defense lawyers has said came true, right? 😏

[@MWe-hr9lh]

@@truthbetold3935right! Every single piece of evidence has been well disputed by them. It’s like anything Lally tries to put out has so many holes, so many questions. And the defense hasn’t even put their witnesses or experts on yet! It’s mind boggling how the defense crushes every witness.

[@wavylos9029]

😂😂😂😂 really , no way !! What defense is going to pay an expert to travel xyz miles and get on the stand and testify as to the opposite of what their argument is ?? Sherlock you can do better 😂😂😂😂

[@wavylos9029]

Except the only difference is their expert is not going to be a certified expert and won’t have any degree or certification just years of experience and based on the book that they’ve read no way was Moby dick on Nantucket beach in 1908😅😅😅😅😅

[@JerseytheOG]

I’m not saying Karen is guilty at all because there’s so many things that point the other way.. However, no emotion at all when they showed Officer O’Keefes sweatshirt.. None whatsoever.. The laughing and giggling she continues to do is a bad look. I pray justice is served to whomever is guilty here

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

This was a few years ago and everyone is different. They were not married and think they had a few problems too. But reactions are different. She is probably just sick of some of the witnesses lying thats her concentration. She listens intensly i notice. Cares about them lying about her. The difference in what they say she said. Some saying she hit him. Some saying she didn't say it.

[@JerseytheOG]

@@user-jq4wb6wo2v , doesn’t matter how long ago it was.. It was a tragedy period! And the laughing and giggling is uncalled for in a courtroom.. And even mocking some of the witnesses on the stand.. Just a bad look all around is all that I am saying!!

[@therandomguy1861]

@@JerseytheOGYou realize she is instructed not to cry during the trial, right?

[@SallyJessieRaphael]

shes spent the last 3 years being framed and accused of doing something she didnt do.. i wouldnt read into that... the framejob by the police is pretty clear

[@JerseytheOG]

@@therandomguy1861 , I am aware.. But being stoic and not crying are two very different things

[@ATTYPCJW]

It would not surprise me if they had a scrambler in the room so it distorted the audio.

[@DOTTIE25]

They tried to frame Karen and it’s completely obvious

[@shaylynned8786]

Geezus give him a lapel mike..how annoying listening to this Judge saying, you have to speak up, we cant hear you..

[@ogcatlady]

If I thought someone was hit by a vehicle, I would assume the front of the vehicle hit them. Not the back. And it's difficult to crack the light covers. I don't think hitting a person would bust a light cover. Every time I watch a new day, I'm more & more confused as to who killed John.

[@BoxerClover]

karen did. karen killed john.

[@lolabear3230]

Another car driving down the road could gave killed john , a man walking down the road could have killed john , john could have slipped and banged his head then got scratched by a racoon , we will never know

[@Amontillado72]

State argues that KR pulled back and forth..amd speed up on such tiny space and then also succeeded in hitting him directly in his right eye.. afterwards she got out of the car and bit him several times because she hungry 😂😂😂😂 Lally dilly dally fairytale

[@dianahilliard-dx2fn]

There will be evidence that karen backed up her car to hit him. It doesn't take a great deal of force to break a backlight cover.

[@MWe-hr9lh]

When she was evasive about the car it was so ridiculous that it made her look like she just doesn’t want to answer.

[@generousbitcoinbillionaire]

She's as dumb as the police. Forensic scientist my ass. She took a 10 month course hahahaha 😂😅

[@aemlife7516]

When the Prosecutor redirected the Recovery Lieutenant, he mentioned that any search would require approval from the higher-ups. The Police Detective "Tilly" in charge of the case would require approval from higher-ups on specific days in February. The Recovery Lieutenant appeared stunned to learn of the additional search days. So the Higher Up would have documentation proving "why" the Police Detective "Tilly" needed extra days in February. Obviously, when using the ATI Computer to tally up a larger number of Police Detective reports, this would probably favor the Police Detective's results of the search data. Outweighing the data entered by the Recovery Lieutenant.

[@martinezlucia101]

Was the sweatshirt ripped where the lacerations were on his arm?

[@sandihulbert5902]

So whose signature is it??

[@SallyJessieRaphael]

Trooper Proctor who for some magical reason hasnt been called to testify because hes dirty

[@hectornegron9155]

As soon as I heard about that hair that traveled 60 miles without falling off I couldn't wait for Mr. Jackson to take the stage.

[@truthbetold3935]

In freezing conditions? Yeah.

[@MaureenODonovan]

Try removing a hair from a wet sink. Sticks like glue

[@hectornegron9155]

@@MaureenODonovan I thought it was stuck to Karen's SUV. Didn’t hear anything about a sink.

[@JuJu-16]

Stage

[@catherinetierney4834]

It’s not 60 miles 30 miles and when snow is involved yes things can stick

[@AlittlebitofMari]

Yall still fighting to save this woman aren't you. Intentionally or not she was drunk and she did it. No one else did. Stop blaming everyone else

[@Mack2023]

Then why all the hiding and lying? You must know more than what we know so far, do tell?

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Errrrr that is why there is a court case???? INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Glad your not on a Jury

[@TeeJayNZ]

Karen read was the only one smiling in court today as usual she’s guilty and she knows it , I don’t think she set out to M John but she did it all the same.

[@fernandaacosta2525]

She smiles because she knows this trial is b.s. and will beat it. She is beautiful and innocent.

[@ATTYPCJW]

KR did it out of jealousy and anger

[@ATTYPCJW]

Jackson and Read Stop laughing, you are unprofessional

[@ATTYPCJW]

KR is a Killer like the heading state, there is no coverup apart from the Jackson side/Team. Certainly not corruption on behalf of the police.

[@ATTYPCJW]

They can put all these pieces together to see if it fits in her tail light.

[@lindsaybarnes4002]

I find it hard to believe the hair on her car didn't fly off in the blizzard after she left the scene. Clearly placed there. Omg

[@dianesweat6015]

The hair didn't fall off while traveling to the sally port or the snow melting off of the car didn't affect that hair as Judge Judy would say if it doesn't make sense more likely than not it's not true.

[@pauladelrio4235]

Possibly could it have stuck since the car was wet with show? Idk so many questions

[@wavylos9029]

Defense:Can we agree that my client Karen loves to peck on peckers ? Expert : fair analysis 😂😂😂😂

[@ATTYPCJW]

Not really it might or i should say would have frozen on the car, it would not fly off like it would maybe if it was not a blizzard.

[@rickcalderan6476]

This judge is ridiculous,,, i can clearly hear everyone from viewing on tablet,,, how can they not hear in a 15 x15 courtroom ,,,, give Lally a microphone if its that much of an issue

[@BoxerClover]

he has a mic. they all do. & what you're hearing on your device is not necessarily always at the same clarity nor volume as the courtroom.

[@martinezlucia101]

So when they collected the samples and used one swab it seemed like they could have contaminated each individual area . And why wouldn’t they dna test the blood in the solo cups and all of the samples?

[@debbiequinn3284]

I think she's guilty also more went on that's being said what about the house where it all started and no one went into the gym to investigate it to see what evidence they could get all the marks on looks like a fight or sy I personally think she's guilty just my opinion but did something else go on !

[@lyndaczika6327]

How would it even be possible that a single strand of hair would managed to have stayed on the bumper??! Karen was driving her SUV all over the place AND during a blizzard after she “hit” John? And also the piece of glass?? Come on…just absurd.

[@aemlife7516]

I believe Okeefe was not part of the police group. He appeared untrustworthy, as if he would reveal the bad behavior of their police friendship. And as for Karen, she may be innocent but her relationship with Okeefe was ending. Maybe he was going to pursue someone who was a bit more stable, not a heavy drinker, someone who did not need to be the focus of attention, and she couldn't accept that.

[@joditurrisi6004]

By all accounts of this trial, seems like the kids were the main focus of Karen's, so I doubt she needed to be the focus, when they had alone time, I am sure she wanted his attention, I know I like attention on date night.

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Not sure about that. But i think they had a problem with John O. It came out when the officer texting Karen told O'keefe " Are You Coming " ??????? why was he asking that when he was texting Karen that night. She had not spoken to him that night or 9 weeks previous

[@kingduran007]

She was already pursuing brian Higgins

[@jovicrazed]

Grrr, again the prosecution either isn't speaking into their mic or the mic is not picking them up well. Can barely hear them. If I turn it up so I can hear them, the witness then is extremely loud.

[@BoxerClover]

judge keeps asking witnesses 2 speak up. when she did so last wk people said she was rude.

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

And when they are walking about away from any mics . This is worse from prosecution i can hear all from Defence?

[@esmeraldawetterwachs8655]

It always amazes me that no one can answer a simple yes/no question with yes or no. Or want to... 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Especially Police

[@BoxerClover]

It always amazes me that no one can ask a simple yes/no question, yet they expect a yes/no answer. 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@shirleysavoie743]

Isn't this Judge so considerate always asking "any objections" Mr. Laully her manners are outstanding.

[@keriissovery9566]

I know. She should just sit there and not do her job because it’s “corruption” EVERYONE in this case was out to frame Karen 😂

[@josephkain6213]

Her job 😆 🤣 You mean disHonorable Beverley taking her marching orders from Meatball?

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

i think she is the best judge i have watched. I like the fact she keeps getting annoyed with the State prosecutor. He is so annoying not having his paperwork in order and sorting it whilst in court . She had a go at him about it. And Speaking up sometimes hardly hearing him . We should be able to hear what question he is actually asking. But have to guess by what the Witness is answering.🤔

[@keriissovery9566]

@@josephkain6213 Whatever you want to call it, it’s still HER JOB! You guys want her to sit there and not say anything so you can all rip her apart because poor Karen is innocent 😂 You don’t have to agree with her or like her but to get mad that she asks if there’s any objections is just dumb.

[@josephkain6213]

Wrong keri very, HER JOB is not to sustain objections that are not made or protect the crumbling McAlbert frame job. Justice is coming for JJ, in FBI windbreakes, but all you Mcdimbutt familiars already know dat.

[@AbsurdCats]

3:41:38 this is what my sweatshirt looked like after my dog scratched at it. She was excited and jumped at me but thank god my sweatshirt was dry thick, it never made it to my skin. If this was road rash it would have mangled that fabric into shreds to get to his skin, not make little holes. Very strange evidence.

[@lissayers8901]

That was not a good look on Jackson's face at 4:03:12

[@j.taylor3670]

Trooper Proctor sneering at her "Fall River accent" is more than just hilarious irony given how he speaks....Fall River is mostly Portugese and other ethnic groups OTHER than Irish.. so you have to take that into account. All O'Keefe myriad female friends, all Irish and interconnected had already made Read an outsider, calling her a "babysitter with benefits" etc. There is BIG BIAS UP THERE.

[@catherinetierney4834]

How can she turn around and giggle to her family w/ his family watching 😢

[@uncleswing4046]

Because she didn't kill him.

[@MaureenODonovan]

She is a psycho left John to die in the snow then wants to blame innocent people. She is a sick insanely jealous drunk

[@sandihulbert5902]

@@MaureenODonovanIs that you, Jen? 🙄

[@josephkain6213]

Cause occasionally the dishonorable Beverley circus is laughable.

[@catherinetierney4834]

I think it’s very possible for one cop to do it but the whole entire police force of canton then the state police and the crime lab .. oh and I heard someone say … the judge is in on it too . Anyone watch the ojay trial … very similar. Cops framed him too …. Just saying

[@lindamateri7298]

Can’t help wondering who is paying for her defense?????

[@BoxerClover]

parents & FKR/turtleboy kult

[@ATTYPCJW]

Go fund page

[@helenhoward362]

How is this picture possible for a 27 mile per hour hit with these "scratches " on an arm...1 arm

[@lindaeason3480]

My daughter-in-law just got attacked by a dog and her bites looked just like his. I have pictures. He wasn't drug by the vehicle either, no DNA on the undercarriage or the rear end

[@joditurrisi6004]

​@@lindaeason3480show us the pictures please

[@SandraWood-m7u]

I wonder if any wildlife has been considered for the scratches as he layed on the yard? I see raccoons opossums in my suburban yard in the nighttime

[@lindsaybarnes4002]

The shirt looks like dog bites. Tooth holes

[@BoxerClover]

@@lindsaybarnes4002 'TOOTH holes.' was the dog a narwhal?

[@angieb2790]

😂😂😂2:47:14 was that a friggin snorree 😂😂😂

[@user-jq4wb6wo2v]

Haha did you hear one of the witnesses breathing really heavily into the mic. The judge should have asked him to keep away from mic when not answering anything

[@kingduran007]

Put a microphone at the podium how hard that be

[@Alohabrianna14]

They have one. He keeps walking away from it.

[@AshleyMarieMommy]

Why on earth is she saying Umm between most words. Omg um go um look um at um the um transcript! Lol um

[@BoxerClover]

golly. maybe- god forbid- she was nervous?

[@ATTYPCJW]

She need toast master training maybe? I think a lot of people do it when nervous, who would not be. Normal reaction,

[@sheilarainey218]

Don't tell is jury and camera man involved now along with the rest off the town 🙈🙄

[@ATTYPCJW]

The shirts were taken off of John in the ambulance that needed to be done. It is ludicrous to say one would have to be kept clean and not contaminated. Otherwise it would need to be thrown away as it was deemed contaminated. Jackson is just grading at straws. I hope the State noted this. When one goes-to a scene everything is contaminated from word go no matter what. Jackson you are not as spark as you think you are. Getting exciting like you have won a game.

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

DEFENCE LOOKED STRONG FOR A WHILE. SADLY AT THIS POINT, YES SHE HIT HIM. SHE REVERSED HER S.U.V OVER THE POOR GUYS HEAD.

[@therandomguy1861]

And conveniently missed the rest of his body?

[@shaylynned8786]

Whats with this Judge,Yennetti wants to show an exibit, she stumbles over her words, sighs and says, the Jury needs a break..seriuosly..

[@Brink.9]

A polycarbonate tail light housing breaking from impact to a human body? Science would say otherwise.

[@BoxerClover]

& yet it didn't.

[@Amontillado72]

yes, just chill and let's wait on defenses experts

[@Brink.9]

@@BoxerClover no science has been shown in the trial to prove otherwise tested and proven science of polycarbonate. You can shoot polycarbonate with a 9mm and it makes dents. Polycarbonate is designed to bend, not break, except under specific conditions. You can literally take a sledge hammer to a sheet of polycarbonate and the sledge hammer bounces right off. I don’t know how a plush human body, of a plus 200 pound man, would scientifically be able to crack the polycarbonate. Especially to the degree that it’s entirely missing. So, no, it didn’t. ☺️

[@kristinruder473]

Get better microphones or something! I’m so tired of her complaining about people keeping their voices up. 🙄

[@roceyh6795]

Would be nice if the families could swap seats, bit tired of looking at certain people pulling faces the entire time, influencing the jury... This is not a fair trial...

[@truthbetold3935]

Like Karen’s face?

[@pennicochrane8886]

Why do you say that?

[@pennicochrane8886]

​@@truthbetold3935 She has pinched lips, very cold appearance, looks like stone and looks arrogant. She could not be trusted around your husband or boyfriend.

[@pennicochrane8886]

​@@truthbetold3935NO!

[@pennicochrane8886]

Johns family is right by her

[@dawls07]

59:20 The photos during the SERT guys testimony when they searched in the evening of the day John died. The first three of the photos look black on bottom and the last white. The last photo, with white sole, the white isn’t bright white compared with the others with black bottom. The first three, the snow appears to be the same around it and the last one the snow on it is different around it too. Packed snow under the shoe on the left near the toe on the last photo. You can even see finger prints of whomever packed the snow. The first three photos show powder snow or smooth snow next to the toe. 1:00:31 The last two photos of the shoe was planted. Look closely!!! And Lally asked witness and this is how the sneaker was discovered, correct. Witness says correct, sir. 🤔

[@angieb2790]

Not case related... but what is the lady next to the witness stand holding up to her mouth?

[@Lpop723]

I was wondering the same thing!

[@BoxerClover]

the court reporter. she speaks into a 'cup' if u will that transmits her words 2 be recorded & is designed to mute her voice.

[@Lpop723]

@@BoxerClover they don’t type anymore? I feel like this is the first time I saw this although I’m never in court so I guess I really have no clue

[@BoxerClover]

@@Lpop723 weird huh? was kinda hard 4 me 2 accept at 1st ha ha. but nope: no more typing.

[@angieb2790]

​@BoxerClover oh my.. ok so I can be a court reporter now lol

[@lindamateri7298]

I believe she killed him because he called her out and wanted her to leave the relationship because it wasn’t working, his nephew and niece heard him ask her to leave

[@christinab3019]

Just because someone ask you too leave doesn't mean they are breaking up. She had her own house. Shame on the state for bringing those kids in.

[@BoxerClover]

@@christinab3019 he asked her to get her things & leave. i'd say that's some1 trying to break up with another.

[@moralfortitude...2217]

seriously, have you not seen all the pics... cannot say that disappearing dog is not the cuz of those very defensive wounds on his right arm? what is the position of an arm of a person trying to defend themselves... bent @ the elbow, picture him or yourself in defense mode is your arm straight or bent...smh 🤦‍♀️

[@basicallyno1722]

It doesn’t seem like they broke up that night though…

[@basicallyno1722]

And if she did kill him…then why do his injuries not match up with the way the commonwealth says she killed him? And why does it appear that in order to convict her of being guilty, the mass state police needed to fix evidence and mislead 2 grand juries?

[@michellestover2114]

Seems a bit SUS that everyone has amnesia .. and a big mind blowing moment that NO DNA TESTS WERE DONE AT THE BLOOD FOUND AROUND JOHNS BODY IN THE SNOW... wow. Could have been anyone else in that house as well!

[@BoxerClover]

'cut myself shaving. think i'll go bleed outside in the snow. best thing 4 it.' can 🐢s not even hear themselves anymore? 😆

[@Amontillado72]

I assume state will present blood results later by yet another so called expert . 😂😂 The REAL experts will come with defense team...so we can keep chillin