Live to 100: Valter Longo, PhD | Rich Roll Podcast

The goal isn’t just to live as long as possible, but rather to live as vibrantly and energetically as possible for as long as possible.
So how do we do this?
One of the world's leading scientific authorities on the subject of longevity, Valter Longo, Ph.D. has devoted his life to answering this question. Along the way, his groundbreaking discoveries hold the potential to change your life in truly dramatic fashion.
Dr. Longo is an expert in gerontology and biological science, the Director of the USC Longevity Institute and the author of "The Longevity Diet".
One of my most important podcasts to date, this is a conversation about what promotes longevity and what undermines it. It's exploration of the benefits of fasting and the science that supports it. And it's a primer on the optimal lifestyle protocols you can employ in your every day life to live well and long.
Enjoy!
✌🏼🌱 - Rich
AUDIO PODCAST & EPISODE BLOG
bit.ly/richroll367 (publishes 5.20.18 late evening PST)
Apple Podcasts: bit.ly/rrpitunes
DR. VALTER LONGO, PhD
valterlongo.com/
prolonfmd.com/
/ prolonfmd
/ profvalterlongo
FILMED BY BLAKE CURTIS
www.blakecurtis.net/
EDITED BY MARGO LUBIN
* * * * *
CONNECT WITH RICH
✩ Website - richroll.com
✩ Pod: Rich Roll Podcast - bit.ly/richrollpod
✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra
✩ Meals - meals.richroll.com
✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way
✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia
✩ Support - / richroll
SOCIALS
✩ Instagram - / richroll
✩ Twitter - / richroll
✩ Facebook - / richrollfans
✩ Strava - / strava
AUDIO GEAR
✩ Shure SM7B Mics
✩ Zoom H6 Recorder
✩ Sony MDR-7506 Headphones
✩ Yellowtech Mic Arm
✩ Auray Tabletop Mic Stand
✩ XLR Cables
✩ Cloudlifter Mic Activator
VIDEO GEAR
✩ Pod Camera - Lumix GH4
✩ Vlog Camera - Canon 80D
✩ Vlog Lens: Canon EFS 10-18mm
NEW TO ME?
Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist at large. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, the NY Times wrote some nice things"
bit.ly/otillonyt
bit.ly/vegansglam

[@dapawap]

I have been vegan for 20 + years & I have a heap of protein, nuts, tofu etc I am 70 & super healthy & fit with great blood results. I take a B12 supplement.

[@turtleanton6539]

Nice😊😊😊

[@methodtraining]

Huge fan of Valter Longo. His fasting mimicking diet has cured my blood pressure and cholesterol problems. Off all meds since following his protocols.

[@user-li1mj1jx2j]

Did you do it with the original Prolon or with a DIY protocol?

[@patriot20000]

Ditto for me and my B.P.

[@johnlivoti5259]

Unfortunately I don't understand his English too well and so I don't seem to follow what exactly he's talking about. I wish I could grasp and understand his explanation about his mimicking diet. It would be great, if he displayed or put out a phone number whereby we can call a call center for more detailed information on his fasting diet.

[@breadanwine]

Thanks for this, Rich. I'm ambivalent about Dr Longo - his advice about eating fish goes against what Dr Greger and other doctors say. As far as I can see, apart from all the pollution, etc, fish is just another muscle - full of unnecessary cholesterol, etc. I'm vegan for several reasons - and after seeing the cruelty involved in fishing I could no more eat fish than I could fly to the moon. And his emphasis on extra protein for the over-65's I find slightly strange. I'm in my 80th year, been vegan for the last 14 - I've never checked the amount of protein I eat, never felt the need. I'm as fit now as I've ever been - to give myself a bit of a challenge, I'm aiming to do 1 million pushups between 80 and 90. ATM I'm doing 1000 pushups every other day. I also swing a 9kg kettlebell around on the other days - so I'm pretty fit. And my blood work is spot on as well. I'm ambivalent about this guy because I agree with him on the subject of Intermittent Fasting. Mind you, after losing 24lbs over 8 months on a 5:2 version of IF, I now have one 24 hour fast a week. And as I said earlier, I feel pretty good. My energy level is high, and I'm looking forward to the next 20 years.

[@breadanwine]

Thanks, Ernest. I'm looking forward to Dr Greger's long-promised review of IF - but he's a busy man.

[@bskory]

Paul, good for you on your good health even at 80. The extra protein recommendation is geared toward the elderly who begin to lose muscle mass as they get older. Sounds like you've got that covered between your current diet and your exercise regimen. For my parents, on the other hand, it has been EXTREMELY difficult to prevent muscle wasting as they hit their 70's and 80's. With diminished appetites and less mobility, cheese, yogurt, and olive oil have been helpful in trying to keep some weight on them, but even with those it's still been challenging.

[@AkuoSubliminals]

Paul youd hey Paul you may want to make sure that you are balancing that push exercise with some pull exercise. Too much of one can cause muscular imbalances and injuries. but super impressive keep it up(:

[@breadanwine]

Thanks, Brian. Maybe your parents would be better off with avocados, nuts, etc - and perhaps some light exercise such as Tai Chi.

[@breadanwine]

AKUO I've had a pull up bar for a couple of months - but, due to my laziness and procrastination, I've yet to install it. You've just given me the impetus to get my arse into gear - so thanks for that!

[@jbidwell605]

Valter Longo's brilliance really shines through here. This is definitely the best Longo interview I've seen yet - and I've watched almost all of them. Rich Roll actually listens to what Longo is saying, unlike most other interviewers who constantly cut Longo off mid-sentence. Great exchange of ideas and information! Side note: I went to the Buchinger Clinic in Germany and had a great experience until the refeed - that was when all hell broke loose and I was ill for months. I couldn't get out of bed for days, plus the weight I had lost came back. When I had arrived there all of my immediate blood work came back to show I was in very good health; the only thing wrong was that I was overweight, which I wanted to focus on. The weight came back, sadly. I had been Keto for years - to no good benefit - now I'm WFPB/Pescetarian and I'm feeling a lot better.

[@lisengel2498]

And I found this whole research from dr Valter Longo so inspiring and I understood the conclusion as this: eat whole food plant based 5 days a week, plus, fish and good fat as olive oil and nuts. Avoid processed foods, when you reach the age of 65 maybe add goats cheese, eggs ..and if you are overweight go for two meals a Day + a snack e. g. Eat breakfast, lunch and a snack for dinner or change to breakfast, a snack for lunch and a dinner . and I will definitely have to read the book by dr Valter Lomgo to get as much knowledge as possible 🎶🍀💚🐸🎵

[@anitaparker9831]

This was a GREAT interview! Both parties respectful of each other's experience, knowledge, and views. I love how Valter see the whole picture rather than being black & white as so many are. He considers all aspects of diet, lifestyle, aging and has done extensive research to back up his findings.

[@danielbeckmann4207]

A

[@gloriagloria1022]

He’s like that because he knows there are things he doesn’t know. :)

[@jamiegosden2946]

I just want to live pain and drug free, eating my plant based whole foods until I die peacefully in my sleep, whatever age my body carries me to

[@DBushX2]

@Quinton Jalen And you’d want to do this why?

[@nizahe2731]

U can always hope mate. We can never be sure how it will all end for us.

[@phyllisyovone8961]

Yes, I don't believe, we will live forever, in this world. I am just a Pilgrim passing through.There is a home, being prepared for me. That is my goal. I am fine to live on earth, in good health. body and mind, until my time come to leave, this world.

[@phyllisyovone8961]

That entire idea is beautiful,; not moving toward hospice. as a solution. We are developing, hope as a solution, in living longer, and not looking toward death as a medical move!

[@EnhanceWellbeing]

Fantastic to have an interviewer and an interviewee that have complimentary but differing viewpoints that discuss rather than argue. One of my favorite podcasts ever. Such important info for athletes, cancer sufferers .... everyone! Thank you.

[@annenekesaobara]

Great talk. Great information. I learned a lot. Thanks for inviting Dr. Longo to the show. His work is truly ground breaking.

[@chimera2116]

I gained a new respect for Rich Roll for having a non-vegan on his show. Many vegans are too narrow minded to tolerate any dissent from veganism. Their minds are too clouded to even permit the possibility of say eating fish being equal or superior to a purely vegan approach as Longo says here. Even though I agree with much of what veganism has to say my beliefs are based on the science not on faith. I've noticed that many vegans seem to be all or nothing people. They have a black and white view of the world which is more about their own personality than science. Interesting observation that more fat and protein, even animal protein may be more healthy once you hit 65 or older.

[@smilebot484]

Actually most meat eaters are way more zealous. Despite masses of evidence against the practice from all fronts including diet they insist that their view is right just because.

[@alcurtis93]

This guy is basically vegan. With small quantities of fish

[@soniama5246]

@@smilebot484 you are right, and now with this keto diet they have a license to eat all the meats they can.

[@evelynbaron2004]

Rich Roll has repeatedly said that he is troubled by what current internet speak calls silos in which opposing camps (this includes equally, vegans, keto people, paleo people, carnivores … please, enough already ). People become completely cut off from dialogue; it's pernicious, it's going to keep on happening and it's sad. I regretted the passing of the Great Contrarian, Christopher Hitchens, who might argue a point or take a stance that I did not support and his gusto for the debate made it all worth while: what emerged was never the initial position of either camp but a further understanding of the underlying issue. I too was chuffed by the interview with Longo but I did pick up on Rich Roll becoming defensive when Longo was talking about a general population of vegans, defined simply by the absence of animal products from their lives and not how healthy was the food they ate and their life style. RR is an extreme example of health as a vegan and adheres to the healthiest protocol possible but was defensive when Longo brought up the variability of protein through the life span. Discomfort is great; he listened. Joe Rogan, the hunter gatherer advocate frequently has really well-vetted vegan advocates who are basing their protocols, as you said, on the best level of current scientific evidence. So yes, I would concur that this was a very good encounter.

[@MrSuperbluesky]

Let’s leave the fish in the water . Is micro plastic mercury cadmium useful for longevity?

[@RedPillVegan]

*The plant-based & Vegan Community has been looking forward to this.* Bringing non biased and non-vegan experts to the table and discussing the benefits of predominantly plant-based diets is a great inRoad. You are putting together a cast of leaders, and amplifying their voices by doing this work. 👍 🌱 #RedPillVegan

[@ooo789456123]

Dr. Longo should research the studies he cites in more detail and not only read the headlines: The one on Olive oil versus low fat diet (which should be lower fat vs. SAD diet but isn't :-o ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZzXqHd7ja-drNU

[@ooo789456123]

Increased protein intake after age 65 did not benefit older people, but vegetable intake and movement: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHPNdGOEpMeCY7M

[@RedPillVegan]

Great Comments! Good info.

[@djwaiken]

There's vegan bias in Rich Roll (you can see it creeping in and him trying to hold it back, though a poor job of it). Longo said meat may not be a significant factor when you are elderly (or later age) because production of igf-1 is lower in body when older so meat may not make levels dangerous. Also, with this constant China Study and blue zone ppl thing, let's be clear, none are vegan (nor are Loma Lindas - they are vegetarian). So clearly, thats a poor argument and don't know why vegans keep using that argument (has to be brainwash). How do we know that 10 or 20% meat they consume is not one of the reasons for their health and longevity. And there has been no studies on eating only meat, fat, carnivorous to show it is unhealthy. Jus sayin. Objectivity.

[@RedPillVegan]

Yeah that whole blue zones thing... poor argument, clear sign of brainwash. We haven’t seen the data on the all ribeye diet either... gotta stay objective. #meatheals

[@glynparry6598]

This is the best informative interview of Dott. Longo I have seen and I’ve now seen a few. Looking forward to his latest book out on December 31st 2019.

[@MrTraceuser]

you can tell he is so passionate about his work.

[@lisengel2498]

I loved the image “ violins get better with age” and the concept of “ juventology” as an investigation and understanding of what keeps you Young. Exciting perspectives 🎵💜🎶

[@MatthiasKlees]

this was so deep and insightful, thank you. I did not know Dr. Valter Longo yet.

[@jillbetts1241]

Excellent interview. Inspirational. Thank you both of you.

[@dimitarkostov3728]

Loved every word of it! Amazing show

[@FunLovingAnimals]

Truly enjoying this discussion from the archives, Rich. As I am currently reading FINDING ULTRA, I appreciate the nuances of your areas of commonality, as well as differences.

[@mthomas1800]

Great information, really good discussion when all perspectives were not the same. I really like what Dr Longo says and how it relates to longevity.

[@GrilledTofu]

always love your podcasts. thanks

[@francinepager7176]

Very very interesting, thank you, I bought Valter book while listening to the podcast and I will read it for sure !

[@bobsiger4335]

Can we just appreciate the details on the blackboard and on the table.... 🤩🤩. Also, Rich Roll, you are my favourite interviewer. And another also - I love this pod & these kind of pods in gen!! Valter Longo - great guest. 😎

[@ryangergler3533]

Thanks Rich and Dr. Longo!

[@BioStuff415]

The introduction... the first time I saw Dr. Longo smile. Keep the momentum.

[@100ditagirl]

Super interesting and I liked hearing the discussion between the slightly varied opinions of Rich and Dr Valter. Yes, Im about 30 months behind it's release date, but thankyou for this excellent interview.

[@lweather]

Awesome interview. Thanks!!!!!

[@bernadette3926]

Great interview, I have Longo's book and would recommend anyone interested in understanding the 5 pillars and research behind his work.

[@booniekjohnson9182]

Very Helpful Discussion at my age of almost age 67..I am eating now 2 times a Day about 10 hours apart, no snacks, no refined sugar or flour at all, olive oil and avocado/coconut oil, eggs for breakfast, and lots of green organic vegetables, and fish at dinner 5pm 4 ounces, also nuts and legumes.

[@Jimvesterstallone]

That sounds stellar!

[@ubself]

4 oz I’d be craving to much

[@Spartan21blue]

Ok what about exercise ..?

[@wanderingbox7971]

Wicked duuude!! great to see this guy, I saw your other podcast with Dr. Kahn and then looked for this one, excellent✌ , wish I had known you do this earlier thanks✌

[@barbaraellen8880]

We so much need some clarity on the correct way to eat. Before and after 65 - interesting. Thanks for the bright light on it all.

[@sarahjane7585]

One of the best interviews I’ve seen! Excellent work on both parts!

[@johanneaustin7184]

Very good information, thank you for sharing your research.

[@monicatkac5270]

Absolutely fascinating

[@irenajerkovic3172]

This was great interview. Thank you!

[@hpcam1]

Loved this one.

[@zybala2]

Very insightful. Really important info.

[@janetbeall4882]

You navigated this really well- Malnourishment comes in all forms-vegans seem to be easy targets. Thank you for being an example of an extremely fit and heathy vegan 🌱

[@patriot20000]

Only time will tell. To each their own. Personally, from my studies during a 40 year interest in health and nutrition: I don't think marathons are a healthy form of exercise. I doubt early humans would have chosen to run for 25 or 50 or certainly not 100 miles at one stretch. They may have walked that. They certainly would have run fast for short distances running away from or chasing animals. Studies have shown that after marathons the immune system is severely compromised. Certain death for an injured caveman. And you just have to look at the emaciated bodies of these runners to think they don't Look healthy. Yes, there will always be some very old runners, just like there are some old obese or sedentary people. But for most? Probably health compromising as they get older. JMHO.

[@ggdd1299]

@@patriot20000 You have no clue of what you are talking about. One of the earliest forms of humans hunting animals without weapons, was to run them down to exhaustion. because animals cannot sweat through their skin.. they cannot run the same distances as humans can, without overheating and eventually collapsing. Humans can even outrun horses over long distances. African tribes used this method of hunting animals for centuries.. The human body was BUILT to run long distances.. and we are one of the few animals that can run such long distances, and there is a good evolutionary reason for that. Evolution does not make mistakes, Read this: slate.com/culture/2012/06/long-distance-running-and-evolution-why-humans-can-outrun-horses-but-cant-jump-higher-than-cats.html even in the Siberian cold, humans could hunt animals, by running them down www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-russian-family-was-cut-off-from-all-human-contact-unaware-of-world-war-ii-7354256/ Older Marathoners and endurance athletes are known to have longer telomeres than people their age, and the same muscular mass as people much younger than they are, and this has been scientifcally proven and observed using MRI scans www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30507277s

[@ggdd1299]

@@manchesterunited4619 thank you.

[@mitchcallander2608]

Interesting, but there are always alternating opinions and studies. I just listened to a lecture by a cardiac surgeon who mentioned frequent running of long distances over long periods of time can cause enlarging and scarring of the heart tissue, siting studies along the way... you can find it easily on ted talk and check it out if u want

[@ggdd1299]

@@mitchcallander2608 I trust scientific studies, not some pill pushing doctor. Remember, everything in moderation.. anyone running tons of miles daily is going to have health problems, that is sure. i will watch the video if you have the liink

[@geertaerts977]

Valter Longo needs to win the Nobel Prize!

[@annemccarron2281]

He was runner up in the latest contest. It was given to a 92 year old man instead.

[@SpiritRed]

Thanks Rich. Luv your work brutha.

[@ShakespeerTube]

The best podcast that I've seen of Longo (and I've seen them all). He is clearly comfortable... This and Ronda Patrick's... in all others, he's fine, but in these he is motivated and the info that spread is more rich, more dense. Congrats to the host!

[@fracritel]

really good guest ..great interview

[@kardste8114]

Hey- I’ve been wanting for Dr. Longo to play his guitar... from photo. Thanks for clarifying lower Igf1 in older age, thus allowing higher protein for elderly.

[@iamsavest1470]

They both are around 50ties and looking much younger than that 👀 for sure they both doing right with their eating habits and lifestyle. Great podcast, thank you 🙏

[@minnievenkat]

Rich very much looks like he is 50+.

[@emh8861]

They look their age .

[@Beesmakelifegoo]

Great,education is the way to reach one. Thank you

[@Test-eb9bj]

I knew about his research and his findings are very convincing to me. I actually trying right now his 5-day program and plan to go on on a regular basis. Thank you for ANOTHER great guest in a great interview!

[@winsomecohall2250]

How is it Test have you lost weight .. how is your health ..

[@Test-eb9bj]

@@winsomecohall2250 I have done his program 5 times now ( 3 cycles/quarterly last year and 2 this year). I have lost 3-4 pounds per fasting cycle. I have to say that I am not doing it for any weight loss goal as I am on perfect weight (female, 56 years old, 169cm/5ft 65 inches and 56kg/123lbs) for cancer fighting, cell renewal/ longevity. Would be nice to have tests around for that. It is an investment in my future health and I hope it will contribute greatly to it.

[@67Bigsby]

Thank you for all the tireless work you do Rich Roll!!!

[@PoppyDog]

Rich, this was a gift - thanks a million for all that you do. One minor observation though: you were arguing with a leading scientist and highly qualified researcher about an N of 1 case study (you!) about the merits of veganism over his support for a fish + vegan diet! I mean, come on!

[@sarab4708]

Exactly! Dr Longo is a world renowned biochemist!! R u kidding me!

[@melistokalioglu7025]

Totally agree!

[@th3shaggst3r37]

I think they both came to an agreement that a whole food plant-based diet can get you enough protein 400 g of chickpeas isn’t actually that much it’s also important to remember that chickpeas aren’t the only thing in a plant-based diet that give protein I think what he was seeking to state since they kept using the word vegan was that there are a lot of junk food vegans who aren’t eating legumes and the whole grains and the whole vegetables and the whole starches who are just eating Oreos and impossible whoppers those are the ones that are getting nutritional deficiencies. As we all know rich roll eats very healthy as we all should I think he was trying to advocate that it’s really not that hard to get what you need if you eat the food as intended that came out of the earth. It’s also subjective to state high protein or high fat because what one person considers high protein isn’t even close to what the researcher was suggesting I feel that some people hear those and then they just start cramming in 8 ounces of fish with every meal it’s about moderation and balance. Deficiencies come to those vegans because they’re eating a bunch of refined garbage food I think he was also trying to point out that having a little fish couldn’t hurt it would be beneficial for those who don’t know nutrition.

[@angelsandocean2853]

Yes.. vegan propaganda 😀

[@carpenterfamily6198]

You can tell the interviewer has done his research in advance. He has such good questions.

[@KitoMonster]

What timing. I just did his ProLon fast this week. It went really well. After seeing the CRONies struggle with Roy Walford's diet years ago, I grew disillusioned. But I was excited to hear about Valter Longo's work.Thank you for this podcast.

[@time4sanity]

I did it about a month ago and am waiting for 2nd installment. Was very impressed with it!

[@KitoMonster]

Hi BayBeats831, I used the ProLon kit. I don't think I would try to do this on my own. All the ingredients, as well as the timing, has been planned out by his team. I wouldn't trust myself to come up with an equivalent.

[@KitoMonster]

That's awesome, Judi. I ordered my 2nd kit as well. I am actually feeling really great today. Like really great. Maybe some of it is psychosomatic, because you're accomplishing something you don't normally set out to do. But I do feel refreshed. It was tough at the end. But if you can hang in there and don't exert much energy -- then I think most people can get through it.

[@verafilatova9394]

what were the results? have you measured your glucose, blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. before and after?

[@KitoMonster]

I had those tests done before. After I've done 3 of these fasts I will be having more blood work done.

[@annamartino5681]

Dear Rich Hall, thank you for amazing guests on Longevity. Please add bookmarks for the following up lecture with Doctor Valter Longo. Also, please cross-reference in Notes to your Video description the links for related Guests and Video Collection or Playlist for Longevity and Nutrition. ❤

[@carolheinemann407]

As always Rich Roll you ROCK !

[@brianbachmeier34]

"I intend to live forever. So far so good." - Steven Wright

[@green1way]

great interview

[@Patrick_Nottingham]

So even though it appears on the surface there was disagreement, it really was a great deal of agreement. 400g of chickpeas isn't 4% protein. Fish is still problematic for other reasons. I'm just gonna eat plants and in 13 years when I turn 65 I'll eat more beans. It seemed the protein increase he was talking about was only 20% more.

[@chrisnamaste3572]

20% more not 20% total.

[@LatinGhost916]

Fish oil from gnc could substitute fish alone and protein uptake is due to people loosing muscle as they age

[@ericapresicce1934]

Amazing! I have been following Dr Valter Longo for some time now, his work is groundbreaking and his approach truly scientific. Rich Roll is the best to make the message clear and get it out there. Thank you so, so much for the hard and serous work you both do

[@NikWeber.]

Yes, so to summarize my current understanding: A healthy and fresh organic plant based diet with a really great variety, no or almost none processed or fried foods and daily portions of fermented plant foods in combination with intermittent fasting is best and when you are over 65 you have to up your protein intake by 20%. The only reason he brings up against a pure plant based diet is that it might be more difficult which in my opinion is not a good enough reason to not do it. Combine that with moderate but regular exercise, a daily meditation practice and lots of mindfulness and you are very well set up for a long, happy and healthy life.

[@bomcimtube]

Don’t forget fasting, sleeping well and avoid infections, also after the age of 80 there are other factor, you gotta be psychologically tough

[@sylviekaiser1064]

400 g of garbanzo offers max 24 g of protein- which is about 68% of necessary protein for his example of the 120 lb woman(0.66 g of protein per kg)

[@ad33861]

This was great. No dogmatism, virtue signaling or ethical arguments. I'm going to have to read his book.

[@evelynbaron2004]

I came a year late to this table of abundant thought, just catching up. I'm at the tail-end of the boomers and my partner genX; lots of conversation around that topic, and one question I have that was shot down in that debate for 2 was; why is a researcher of Dr. Longo's stature spending so much time on podcasts? I mean, a LOT of time, since I've been researching him for the last few days. My friend says; it's what people do now. Maybe … but which people? Certainly not the people from Bletchley Park, vr bad example I know. Glad for the interview; obvious discomfort on RR's part, some reservations regarding VL's possible cultural bias toward fish and olive oil -- I lived in Italy for over a decade -- but all in a good cause and I applaud Rich Roll. The only other reservation I have regarding the FMD promoted by Longo is that it costs $250 American per fast, so that even if that money were to be ploughed back into research, who would they be studying? Vr rich people? Not a sound empirical approach.

[@AB-zq4fw]

....I'm gonna listen to the Dr.

[@dganimi]

What a fantastic interview! A pleasant, scientific and very exciting conversation between two great minds!

[@cherilynroyall933]

Great Interview Rich....DR VALTA LONGO, a cut about the rest, Rich why dont you do a Pod on BLOOD CANCER, you will be the FIRST, no other has done this...❤

[@GreenTurtle181]

Absolutely wonderful. Dr Longo looks so young! Really knows his stuff. Loved how he can do a broad calculation to nutrition which is key. Thank you Rich Roll.

[@cesarhernandez7108]

Dr. Longo looks young because he is young.

[@celeriacmarcus]

@@cesarhernandez7108 Don't you think he looks great for 50?

[@nurtenozkoray]

Valter Longo should receive Nobel prize for medicine. He has done so much for the medical effects of food. Rich Roll should just ask clear questions instead of putting his ideas in a conversation mode, thus should have more of a journalistic format.

[@nicknanas623]

Very interesting, this guy is very, knowledgelable one of the best minds, for longevity, he really does very interesting work.

[@romanq5605]

Always do whatever works for you. Test the effects of diversity and ammount of food, activities, diets for a while. Stick to those which gives you energy, better look, mind comfort, well being. Im 55 and plantbase diet + avoiding crap as much as i could + fasting 1 a week + walking 30 min a day + 3x bodyweight training works for me. Interesting discussion between two guys which I value. Thanks !!

[@Kayte...]

I thought we were going to get some blues guitar riffs from this guy. I was looking forward to it. 😟

[@ucmogatewayvids]

Rich I have heard Dr. Longo on several podcasts recently. You have interviewed him better than anyone else. You have the most uplifting of all the interviews. I find him a tad negative and bit confusing and elusive, but if I want to get happy I'll listen to Guru Singh! LOL

[@lindaellison2281]

I so agree! I've heard him many times, and this is the beset! Rich, you are a GREAT interviewer!

[@juliesill8074]

Very interesting. I think we get into trouble thinking one size fits all. I eat whole food plant based but sometimes I eat a bit of bison. Maybe a bit of fish. I feel great. Blood work clean. Exercise 30 hours a week. Everyone’s DNA different. I have bio markers that I need to abstain from certain foods due to allergies or heredity factors. The way I eat is specific to me not my best friend or the lady across the street. It took me a number of years to figure out what worked best for me. I have clients with unique medical concerns and allergies. You have to work with the individual. I listen to all the podcasts. All the experts. Glean info that make me more knowledgeable. Everyone different. Not one size fits all. Overall concepts are important. Fascinating research and opinions. Keep open mind. That’s what keeps ya young !

[@OU-812]

You excercise over 4h each day on avg?

[@juliesill8074]

@@OU-812 i am a yoga and Pilates teacher - so movement is a huge part of my life - a typical day is an hour walk in the AM followed by another hour yoga or Pilates. Then I begin teaching private clients at noon. If I have time I like to get in another hour walk. Some days I lift or ride my Peloton and in my infared sauna after. It’s all really normal for me. I started ballet at 8 years old. Danced every day of my childhood into young adulthood 2-3 hours a day. Movement is life to me. Like breathing.

[@OU-812]

@@juliesill8074 Thanks great! 👍

[@marlanek4283]

Wonderful point!! One size does not fit all with nutrition. I too have had to be my own advocate and tweak my diet (over 10yrs) for medical considerations, what makes me feel best and function, sleep, and think best. People want a quick fix, but experimenting is important.

[@19Jetta]

Their discussion is a good example of comparing a data set of one to a data set of many. Rich does great on a vegan diet. Good for him. But Valter's point is that, looking at, say, 10,000 vegans, you are statistically more likely to find deficiencies. I love veggies and legumes but I most certainly did NOT thrive on a vegan diet. But I would never say "And therefore, no one does."

[@steverogers7333]

35:50 Rich asked a very good question of what we can extract from five pillars and what principles can guide us toward longevity and how people can be mindful. But Rich interrupted as soon as he heard fish and didn't let him finish on the principles. I am inspired by rich and switched to vegan but ended up adding fish after six week on pure plant based as I wasn't able to perform to a full extent as I am very active. I wish Rich had let Dr Longo finish on those principles rather injecting himself as an example. I am an engineer not a doctor but I am pretty sure that different people, age, ethnicity and other factors do matters. We can't just look at Rich and believe that every one human being on this will do good on just vegan diet. I am looking for a way to go complete vegan but hoping to get more information.

[@aufhebenx3662]

Yeah Rich's ideological bias ruined the discussion at times. Valter has the credentials and evidence on his side it would have been great if rich could just listen to the evidence without trying to butt heads. He is not the rule his athleticism is not the norm and if he bothered to read the adventist health study 2 results he would know pesc and vegan are tied. Even garth davis admits fish is a green light food

[@kristenkarlisch685]

Thanks Rich! Because of this interview my husband and I did the FMD last week. For many reasons, including his pancreas health. Must report a HUGE positive outcome on many health fronts. We hope to do again in 4 months. Appreciate the diversity (pescetarian option) outside of the vegan lifestyle. Bioindividuality is very important especially at different ages.

[@lindaellison2281]

Could you please elaborate on what kind of positive outcomes you experienced? Did you do it again? Could you post an update, please?

[@vvn340]

Really excellent interview, I've been Following Valter Longo's work and read his book and articles and this is a great update; it was also a very good job from Rich to insist on a few crucial points and have them clarified. I do not agree 100% with Longo's pescetarian concept and his longevity diet (too little fruit, maybe too many legumes, fish), but we must consider that he reasons from a purely scientific standpoint. Also, he's right in stating that a vegan diet must be undertaken with the proper baggage of knowledge otherwise it may be detrimental. His fast mimicking diet is pure genius. I've been doing a few cycles and cannot believe that I have the same benefits of a full 5-days water fasting. It's much easier and it's possible to work while doing it. By the way, as already hinted in other comments, it's surely possible to design one's FMD without using a Prolon package.

[@lindaellison2281]

Would you please elaborate more on how to design your own FMD?

[@marlanek4283]

@@lindaellison2281 you can look up online “DIY Fating mimicking diet plan”. There are different ones- so look at a few and look at commonalities. You can buy his Fast Bars- to supplement with soups and vitamins it seems.

[@bambip48]

Great interview! Great questions, very informative. Thank you x

[@shirleygriffin7672]

Excellent interview. I am now subscribed to your channel......... soaking in the hot cold mineral springs water outside in nature, USA, Ozarks

[@tinyjungle_]

Overall I dig it. He does seem to rely on the honesty of individuals self reporting (after actual structured studies) what they eat when citing/reinforcing some of his findings/suggestions.

[@g.e.boroush5176]

It may be that when one reaches their elder years . . . 65-plus . . . that one does need more protein. I would trust that Dr. Longo has good scientific reason for sharing that information with us. To do that one can increase their lentil consumption as well as their seitan consumption. This choice lets you do that without consuming the saturated fats of animal products.

[@megavegan5791]

I think he recommends the approach he does because most elderly people find it challenging to eat more food, especially high-fiber food, so he thinks it’s easier for them to get more protein from those animal-based sources.

[@Spartan21blue]

Actually you really do need more fish protein and more everything plant based protein as well , after 65 . Perform resistance training Unless of course you won’t to become frail and fade away…….

[@lakewalker60]

I did one round of the FMD. I can say that all of the food tastes soooo good, (maybe/probably b/c you are eating so little LOL). Day 5 was a little tough. So interesting about the added need for protein after age 65. Mostly trying to follow Esselstyn b/c of heart disease in my family. I guess the multifaceted “pillars” may be wiser. Why is everything in life science so devilishly complex? Valter’s book was a great thought provoking read. Thanks to both of you!

[@lf8238]

What foods did you eat on the FMD? We're all curious, please share! 🙏🙂

[@rebeccamarchand-smith2037]

Great podcast! Dr. Longo's work is so interesting. I have come to believe that based on evolutionary conditions humans are adapted to periods of fasting or even feast-famine cycling... in what ratio is the big question for me! Would love to try FMD once I'm no longer breastfeeding.

[@patriot20000]

Worked great for me. Had 10 extra lbs for 10 years that no diet got rid of. I.F. did it.! I can see my abs again for the first time in years. But beware: between the end of breast feeding and I.F your "girls" may never be the same. :(

[@beachtreenet]

Just discovered this, most wonderful content I've seen on youtube. I have the same KG Prophet edition. Thanks for this excellent work and the esthetics of this Podcast

[@marydama8357]

Beautiful brains!!!!!!!

[@sharp_guitars2417]

This was great!! Love Dr. Longo, but find it very easy to reach my protein needs as a vegan. Nevee worry at all. ✌️🌱

[@markbrakebill1057]

Varied legumes, nuts and seeds. No problem Getting the ratios right, now that's the interesting part of the puzzle. I enjoyed Dr longo's stance on being open to healthiest sources/quantity of proteins as we age. Diversity makes sense in the grand scheme of evolution. I mean to say, are not all healthy habitats in nature greatly diversified.

[@vectorair1]

Agreed. Easy for most vegans to reach protein needs!

[@celiablake302]

Love this guy (but I loved being in the marching band. Learned so much). His direction is fascinating.

[@funbrothers96]

an interesting interview thank you RR , we are originaly from italy and have Longo relatives in our up line , very nice man Valter all the best , keep on the good teaching and studys : )

[@Friedrich345]

Great interview! Rich is doing a fantastic job getting people to go deep! Thanks, Rich!

[@annieleymarie46]

I'm 67 and have been vegan for over 30 years. I would find it very hard to choose to eat some animal protein now, so I guess I will pay attention to eating more plant protein...

[@ErnieMayberry]

kzbin.info?redir_token=PiGCgrb_P09PtdV737y0a_nbvVF8MTUyNzAzMTA0MUAxNTI2OTQ0NjQx&q=https%3A%2F%2Fnutritionfacts.org%2Fvideo%2Fincreasing-protein-intake-age-65%2F&event=comments

[@annieleymarie46]

Great, many thanks! Good old Dr Greger... I'd missed that podcast. And of course he's not old. It would be interesting to know whether Cadwell Esselsyn and T Colin Campbell have bumped up their protein intake (and with all the due respect I have for him the latter doesn't look particularly young for his age, but still very active for sure...)

[@delishme2]

@T T OMG are you are Nobel Laureate with several peer reviewed published papers?? Everyone is a freaking expert on here, everyone apparently except the expert. Do you all know how insane you sound 😳

[@batissta44]

theres no reason not to eat wild caught salmon

[@jimmysgirl611]

I wish he had asked how gorillas and elephants manage to get enough protein without eating animal protein. Other than that super interesting interview. I follow Dr. McDougall but will be ordering Valter Longos book because this information is fascinating. I'm actually only 2/3 through the interview so maybe my question will still be asked.

[@jacquelynhill1598]

The sentence that summed it up for me was “If you want to kill a mouse, give them a saturated fat diet.”

[@XX-gy7ue]

I just read your small introductory bio , and I would like you to add the term ' saint ' to your description !

[@Frenchblue8]

This guy looks *amazing* for 100!!😉

[@nepamirskuzkameskovojomeli2396]

Frenchblue8 lol

[@Tammy1332]

Amazing info, thanks😊

[@XX-gy7ue]

life changes hands ! and both good and bad motives and actions​ will have metaphysical fundamental consequences !

[@Shadoworker]

I'd love it if, when researchers or interviewers refer to High or Low this or that, they would give a general % for reference.

[@Shadoworker]

After scouring through his other videos and reading his book, he suggests 10% protein (generally) for longevity. You can do a bit more, like 15% to 20% if it is plant based and you are otherwise healthy and exercise regularly. The only caveat is that if you do go higher in protein (plant based or not) the cancer rates do not go down, while the biomarkers for the other diseases he studied do. Interesting stuff as a regularly lifter.

[@markzarate7586]

Mark Zarate 20 hours ago Been loving Dr. Longo's information. Just finished the Longevity Diet, does anybody have a recommendation on how long after the 5 day fast would you get bloodwork done again to compare? Is there a number of days you should wait or number of days would be too long?

[@patriot20000]

Well, since you are supposed to refrain from eating from the ngiht before for a cholesterol exam....maybe that's all that's necessary? Because once you eat, numbers will change to reflect that you ate, so that's no good.

[@XX-gy7ue]

without accepting death as a possibility , how can someone expect to truly live ! make peace with the reality of existence on earth and help steer it toward a better world for today and tomorrow !

[@time4sanity]

The idea is not to avoid death; it's to remain young as late as possible. I want to live longer...not die longer.

[@XX-gy7ue]

Judi Bryan , Saint Francis called death ' sister ' and was comfortable with it , yet who led a fuller life than he did ! - it is something that to many is unpleasant , and it will be destroyed in the end ! but for now , in the moment without judging anyone's worth , how long someone lives seems not to have the value of how well someone lives ! ( yet so many lead hard and short lives ) - - although in the imagination it would be great to have more time , to be able to plant a garden at eighty or ninety and see it an old growth sanctuary is marvelous , to have the time to follow our dreams is fascinating ( Shangri-La ) ! but whatever the life-force actually is , it is passed from one to the other ! there is no room in life for either fear or hate !

[@ongvalcot6873]

@@XX-gy7ue People want to live longer so they can try new diet programs that haven't been invented yet.

[@XX-gy7ue]

@@ongvalcot6873, ha !?

[@andreawisner7358]

Finally someone who recognizes that there are immunological reasons not eat certain plant foods. I'm tired of being told that if I'm not celiac then wheat is super-good for me, when I know since early childhood that it makes me sick, and I am in fact allergic to it. And eating a WFPB diet does not eliminate all my food allergies. I want to experiment with a raw food diet someday, but even then it cannot include things like melon and cashews, maybe even tomatoes, and ...

[@lesliesmith7312]

Thank you Rich, for doing this pod cast! I don't think getting 40+ grams of protein from food is that hard. I'm five-two, and I usually end up between 56-89 grams of protein. But now I'm wondering, when I hit 65 is it ok to keep eating plant-only protein sources-or do I need to start eating animal parts? And if all high protein diets increased risk of cancer-how would that work toward making you live longer?

[@chrisnamaste3572]

Forget Longo's advice to routinely consume animal products after 65. Don't eat them more than once every two weeks or more than 5% should be safe though. Good portions of extra firm tofu on a regular basis and more importantly do full body challenging bweight bearing exercise at least 3x per week and you should be fine re muscles. Impact exercise is needed for bone health too, brisk walking and running are good. Look to Brenda Davis's advice and guidance.

[@canyonhaverfield2201]

Looking over Volters right shoulder, one's eyes fall upon what vaguely appears to be an early color photo, simply framed. It appears to be a cool family scene. If you would..maybe offer a bit of its story..ive a suspicion its a 'Rich' story... tons of appreciation, much love & peace🌲canyon

[@minifix]

All you need to know about how to live a Longo life.

[@maremacd]

Would you please give us an update on your FMD experience?

[@jaakdefour7741]

I'm confused on IF/TRE: Longo seems to say, "12h is fine but be careful with 16h of fasting every day". David Sinclair and many longetivity gurus seem to say, aim for 16h or even 18-20h of fasting every day?. Have there been any new insights since Longo's 2018 point-of-view?