LMNT Maltodextrin Controversy Explained

[@Highintensityhealth]

I do NOT and have NOT ever gotten paid by LMNT! Just to clarify.

[@firstchoicefarm7767]

0.4grams of an ingredient which is higher than most of the ingredients that people are consuming the product for! If it wasn't a big deal, list it.

[@CoryHobbs2178]

You're smarter than that, you made your own better product. People should just stop drinking flavored fufu stuff lol

[@3SeasonsUSA]

This might answer some questions, if you would like to review. My other comment is below, about my sensitivity to Barley based Maltodextrin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6HWqXyAeLiHidUsi=J1AJKl5jRSdkt2gi

[@yuliaschannel6288]

Do you have acromegaly?

[@patted44]

@@Highintensityhealth Mike, do you have Maltodextrin in any of your products?

[@twistedstrength.]

The big deal is that they initially claimed there was 100 times less than there actually was. People are sick of being lied to. It's as simple as that. A good company will not lie to their customer. We take what we consume very seriously and this is completely unacceptable.

[@AttunedFlux]

Not only that, but theres TWICE the amount of maltodextrin per packet than there is potassium?! That is such a stupid ratio of ingredients. Clearly done for profit motive and taste. There are several natural sweeteners available, yet they choose one that has been shown to significantly impact blood sugar and possibly harm the gut. They need to get with the times, and consider another natural sweetener like allulose. (none of this is intended to be health advice)

[@DangerZone-w6y]

@@AttunedFlux *I STOPPED DRINKING LMNT! THEY LIED TO US!* THERE'S WAY WAY MORE MALTODEXTRIN IN THEIR PRODUCT THAN THEY REVEALED- MALTODEXTRIN IS SUPER BAD FOR YOUR GUT HEALTH! They tried to make us believe, it was just a few milligrams, but in facts it was several hundred grams per packet!

[@knotslip8862]

The controversy is that they dont list the maltodextrin as an ingredient, they put it in under the natural flavors. Why hide it? Just list it as many other companies do. Thats how I see it anyway. Now it appears that they were putting one over on people rather than just being honest and listing it in the ingredients.

[@AnneMB955]

I actually emailed the company asking whether there was maltodextrin in their product. No response. I agree, it should be listed.

[@DA-jw4lx]

Yeah, so is LMNT being 136 on the GI when sugar is only 74...that's a big deal to lie about. People are under the false impression they are consuming something to help their health improve, only to learn it is destroying it...that's a big lie.

[@richardbray8004]

Lying is a big deal.

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

???

[@Highintensityhealth]

I agree. I didn’t know they lied.

[@jmphome9793]

The other issue on this video is basically calling us STUPID for being disappointed we were lied too. I say this as I'm finger licking lmnt watermelon and raspberry. They do taste good, it's no big deal but lying is lying. ​@@Highintensityhealth

[@georgecav]

@@Highintensityhealthyou are defending the industry not the consumer, no surprise and disappointing. “ I don’t see what the big deal is”? I have been in 2 minds about you but now less so… .Consumers of this kind of product want and deserve to know exactly whats in it and bundling things into a generic supplement additive is misleading at best. The fact that you don’t think its a significant amount and therefore no consumer should care is arrogant

[@Magnums_Chronicles]

The big deal for me is that 1) I’m on a Carnivore Diet and from all of the investigating that I have done about sugars and the toxic chemicals food manufacturers put into our food, MALTODEXTRIN IS THE WORST SUGAR, period. On my packets of LMNT it says they have STEVIA not MALTODEXTRIN. It’s just as bad as companies adding sugar to bacon, or smokies. Why do they have to add sugar to meat products? It’s so f*cking disappointing.

[@MisterScalper]

Explains why I cannot keep in ketosis when I take LMNT. 🖕🏻

[@kingnick6260]

Yeah, I’d noticed this a year ago after 2 months of a rigorous dieting change. Everything stagnated once I’d introduced LMNT

[@sdjohnston67]

@@MisterScalper this is indeed a big deal.

[@Imstillyoshi]

Ive been measuring my ketones and past few days, have been getting in increasing deeper ketosis. I dont think LMNT has taken away from my ketosis, and I take about 5 packets a day. I was at 1.4 nmol/L on ketones today.

[@mardiov]

Mike, it's not obvious to most people that maltodextrin is in natural flavors. In fact I can't find anywhere online that specifies what "natural flavors" are. There are other flavors that taste good but that are also low glycemic.

[@Nuvinci88]

I would say it’s a big deal. Not only is it deceptive….. it can mean the difference between something healthy, and something that could cause metabolic dysfunction…

[@AncientYouth64]

😂😂😂

[@AnneMB955]

Totally agree. I’m so disappointed being misled.

[@conniek8881]

It said Stevia, I’m not a food scientist. I didn’t know that that’s how they made flavors by spraying them on maltodextrin .

[@courtneyblue15]

Exactly. I don’t how he thought that talking down to us all like we’re stupid was a good idea. Looks like he’s the real idiot though, considering how many people unsubscribed!🤣

[@AnneMB955]

Yes! I thought stevia was the sweetness.

[@Mendrawza24]

I'm sensitive to stevia. I don't like its flavor and I can taste it in anything it's used in. LMNT definitely never had stevia in it. It didn't have a weird aftertaste.

[@conniek8881]

It breaks a fast - if you’re in a three day fast and the stupid stuff broke your fast. That is a big deal cause we didn’t know.

[@AncientYouth64]

Boo hoo what nonsense no one needs to fast

[@Zizzyyzz]

​@@AncientYouth64 Fasting can be part of an effective "cancer"-fighting protocol.

[@george6252]

Fasting cleanses the body without it you age faster.

[@AncientYouth64]

@@george6252 utter unscientific nonsense

[@jackoverton8343]

​@@AncientYouth64it literally enhances autophagy, trigger intestinal stem cells, and increase BDNF. Plenty of scientific journals on all of it. Some particular studies were about breast cancer recurrence and chance of testicular cancer drop when extending night fasting by 2-4 hours. Dozens of other studies. Stop spreading ignorance.

[@47retta]

I'm glad someone in this space is talking about how much sodium and how little Mag and K are in LMNT. Yes, it tastes good, but it is way overpriced! Thank you, Mike, for sharing this! ❤

[@SimplyHuman186]

Very true. Its not special at ALL.

[@elloohno1349]

Stephanie keto person has said this for years * just saying :D

[@elloohno1349]

she's the best IMHO !

[@47retta]

@@elloohno1349 Who is that?

[@David-qu3ro]

Edit: 3:20 you mention your product does in fact contain maltodextrin. Missed that the first time around. My theory was mostly correct. Do you put that on the label though? If not your product is just as misleading. I don’t believe I saw that last time I purchased your electrolytes. Mike, I usually love your content. But this is wayyyyy out of touch. You’re talking like the average consumer is supposed to just *know* this contains maltodextrin. I certainly didn’t. There was also some definite condescension in your words too. Not a good look. Why does it have to be sprayed on maltodextrin? That’s a question you could have answered. Not only that, but they claimed it had some minuscule amount, but turned out to actually be 100x what they claimed. So there’s actually more maltodextrin than Mg. I think we can all agree the general public would consider this a “dodgy” ingredient. If it’s so wholesome and pure, list it. Don’t be a little b*tch and hide it behind “natural flavors”. Do your products contain maltodextrin? That’s literally the only reason I can see your response being this way. Unless you’ve been paid by them in the past, which you note that you haven’t. The “C’mon guys, it’s not THAT bad!” schtick comes across like you’re nervously sitting on the sidelines waiting for someone to find that in yours too.

[@SimplyHuman186]

@@David-qu3ro yeah . More Maltodextrin than magnesium. But not listed. Pretty obvious they didn't mention it on purpose. I agree with your comment 👍

[@rollinupeverest5042]

Exactly actually answer the problem they're giving toxic chemicals to us over a hundred times the amount they claimed they had and he says it's not a big deal😂😂😂

[@MisterScalper]

@David-qu3ro 1000000%! Mike is very flippant about the negative impact of this revelation. Most of us don’t or can’t exercise like he does. I’ve fought hard to be carnivore and remain in ketosis only to be knocked out whenever I drink LMNT. Mike’s tone is very condescending, almost like “duh, of course it has maltodextrin”. Like we should have just known.

[@KetoSimple]

The issue for me, they told us before it was 4mg of maltodextrin to find out it's actually .4g of maltodextrin. They did a 3rd party test, found out it's the 100x more, they did post this inside a blog post about natural flavors. Instead of posting it for all to see on the front page. That's the issue I have.

[@ryanharvey6375]

.4g

[@KetoSimple]

@@ryanharvey6375 Robb Wolf told me via Twitter a few months ago that LMNT had 4mgs so now that they say it's .4g it's why some of us are so upset. He told us that LMNT had 1tsp of maltodextrin over about 1,000 packets, now it's 1tsp over 10-20 packets. So it's not the ingredient in question, it's the drastic change in amount of an ingredient in a product without clear disclosure.

[@AttunedFlux]

And thats 2x more than the potassium in the product, which is painfully embarrassing. Why does potassium get ignored so much in so many mainstream products?

[@KetoSimple]

@@AttunedFlux indeed it is

[@sdjohnston67]

This matters especially for people who need to be in therapeutic levels of ketosis for serious reasons (e g. Heart disease, cancer, etc.). It's possible for even these small amounts of maltodextrin to kick a person out of ketosis (or significantly reduce ketosis) because it may provoke an insulin response. It's not a small matter when someone needs to maintain a certain level of ketones in the blood for serious reasons. This product may be sabotaging people's efforts to become more healthy who are very ill. I'm disappointed in how you seem clueless about this. You often seem to have little awareness of what's going on in the low carb/keto/carnivore space outside your own particular silo. See the video by Dr. Boz for more explanation of this issue with LMNT. BTW, regular consumers have no idea that "natural flavors" means that flavoring compunds are sprayed onto maltodextrin. That you seem to think this should be common knowledge shows you are out of touch.

[@ryandoherty9696]

Would you make your own electrolytes?

[@Blitz4688]

I am not worried about the amount of Maltodextrin but I am concerned about the lying and labeling. They proudly display the Magnesium and Potassium that are in much smaller quantities and then turn around and hide the Maltodextrin.

[@Joy80JJ]

Anyone drinking LMNT is not eating fast food or potato chips....that's why we don't like being lied to.

[@DangerZone-w6y]

*I STOPPED DRINKING LMNT! THEY LIED TO US!* THERE'S WAY WAY MORE MALTODEXTRIN IN THEIR PRODUCT THAN THEY REVEALED- MALTODEXTRIN IS SUPER BAD FOR YOUR GUT HEALTH! They tried to make us believe, it was just a few milligrams, but in facts it was several hundred grams per packet!

[@lalaland2797]

This video is convicting me to give up my carbonated canned drinks of zevia soda with natural flavors and plastic-lined aluminum cans. Dang. We had a good run. Maybe something else good will come my way

[@mayra_m767]

I can't stand carbonated waters! My husband enjoys them. They bloat me. Have you considered making your own fermented drink, when done right they are naturally carbonated over time, and I flavor with real fruit! (Water kefir, kombucha, or ginger bug) 😁

[@HappyToBeKLB]

Ugh yes 😩 I love me some Zevia

[@louisag5410]

The ingredients list might read more accurately in this order: Sodium, Maltodextrin, Potassium, Magnesium, stevia, natural flavours. Also it is interesting to note that 1 packet has 6 grams of which only 1.3 grams are the electrolytes, leaving 4.7 grams (80 %) for natural flavours, sweetness and bulk fillers ??. I think the bigger question is what other ingredients might we find in these ‘natural flavours’ used in most electrolyte powders and keto products on the market.

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

1) If it wasn’t a big deal, they wouldn’t have hid it. 2) You’re asking us, the consumer, what do we expect to be there in this product? I EXPECT to buy what is on the label/what I’m being told I’m buying. 3) You continue to talk down to us consumers asking what do we eat? Talking about bags of “gluten free chips.” I eat REAL FOOD. I don’t eat processed food like bagged chips, etc. And I expected the electrolytes I purchased to be what they said they are. I didn’t realize it was my job to become certified in understanding how it’s all made or what is (obviously, in your opinion) there that we aren’t being told is there. Thank you for showing us who you really are…your condescending talk says A LOT.

[@courtneyblue15]

You hit the nail on the head! A lot of us work really hard to eat clean and we are very vigilant about what we put into our bodies. I personally don’t consume anything with added sugars, so I avoid maltodextrin like the plague!. It’s extremely deceptive of the company to not list it in their ingredients, and this guy knows it! There are multiple reasons why people are upset about this, and all of them are valid! What a condescending jerk to say that everyone should automatically know the product contains sugar due to its flavor profile. And if it’s not a big deal, why weren’t they upfront about this to begin with?!!

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

@@courtneyblue15Yes, exactly!!! Thank you 🙌

[@amandaharwood6126]

Exactly. Know your audience. Most are people who are trying to eat clean and intentionally, and this deception is upsetting. Especially for all those who I saw commented that it broke their fast and they had no clue until now why, or it caused various reactions. We're tired of being lied to by the food and supplement industry. To blow it off like it's nothing and talk down to his listeners is disheartening.

[@george6252]

@@courtneyblue15 agree and unsubscribed because of this.

[@nicolereilly6385]

Problem is all the companies getting away with including so many ingredients under " natural flavors " OR that MSG has a whole bunch of other names...OR how black labeled organic label actually means 70% organic...in the end it's always about profit not health.

[@neilfrasersmith]

I don't think you understand the issue. It's nothing to do with the amount. It's the misrepresentation. Your argument is 'stealing is okay so long as it's only a little bit, not a whole bank robbery'. But hey, Rob is a great guy so it's all good.

[@jeanetteinthisorn4955]

When top podcasters waxed poetic about how good it tastes, there was no doubt that it was NOT a health food. The drink equivalent of Established Titles.

[@KeCee1975]

I’ve been considering using this product for a couple of months , especially to assist throughout my fasting. I’m so glad I never gave into this stuff.

[@RandomHuTaoSimp]

I see many people complain of joint pain and not feeling so well while using lmnt. And when they stop, they feel better. Get the maltodextrin out of the packages. There are many other better alternatives to sweeten things with. Don't forget maltodextrin is 2x as high on the glycemic index as table sugar. Most people dont do well with even just a small amount of sugar

[@melissawitherspoon9094]

I think that many of us were under the impression that it tasted good without the additional maltodextrin. Now finding it out feels like a betrayal of sorts. You getting so defensive doesn't help either. It makes you look desperate to defend your own product because it also contains maltodextrin. I think your approach to this will hurt your reputation and credibility.

[@sabrinacansino5969]

Yes! His super-defensiveness is a huge red flag to me and I don’t appreciate it either.

[@BeHealing]

They’re getting upset because you’re kinda calling them stupid for not knowing. I didn’t know how these natural flavors are made either but I tend to stay away from them anyway, there’s no free passes in life if you want highly palatable then you take the health hit. I make my own electrolytes with Himalayan salt magnesium and potassium. I add flavored creatine to my workout water along with it because my creatine supplier sent me the apple flavored by mistake (similar green packaging) and I can take that maltodextrin hit in my workout water. I used to use the unflavored creatine and add berry and beetroot powder to taste with a little honey. I prefer my homemade mix but the flavored creatine is convenient for sure

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

I try to stay completely away from Maltodextrin. It is actually higher on the glycemic index than straight glucose. I'm not sure why you do not think it's a big deal.

[@ladyhawk6999]

Well fine then! You drove home enough times we are stupid for paying for flavored salt! Fine! I didn't expect that crap in LMNT! I trusted them I feel screwed. It would explain a lot and I just spent boo coo bucks replenishing my supply! I never would have done it! I am done with LMNT!

[@george6252]

agreed and threw mine out today (a lot). No longer listening to this guy.

[@orion9k]

6:30 still to be fair, it should say in the ingredients what the consumer is getting. Some people believe that maltodextrin potentially causes different issues to health.

[@jdmiller63]

Natural flavors = Chemicals!! You start out by saying "if you ever have potato chips, if you ever have pastries"… The people that are taking LMNT are taking it because they want the cleanest and they do not eat potato chips. They do not eat pastries…, Be real - sounds like you were on the defensive for LMNT… Facts>Feelings

[@ukejon]

What a snarky, insulting video! Glad Rob Wolfe is your buddy and that may explain the absolutely tone deaf scolding of your own audience but because of their lying I won’t buy LMNT and I now won’t buy your product either.

[@george6252]

I'm done with this website, insulting video.

[@harryshoemaker7510]

Unfortunately, “in the grand scheme of things you just don’t seem to get it”…

[@conniek8881]

That’s messing up my fast, I take salts during fast, I’ve been duped

[@ihsnyder]

I feel the same. I thought I could have a coffee with a 1/2 packet of chocolate LMNT on a fasting day. Now I know that I can not. Bummer. I have to throw it all out. This explains why I’ve been struggling.

[@sethtphillips]

Mike -- I really like your videos. But I listened to keto based practitioners that raised concerns for metabolically unhealthy people in their medical practice. It revealed the inner gut feeling that I found odd every time I had LMNT. I felt addicted to LMNT to an extent; and I say this as someone who never had food/sugar cravings being whole foods for a long time. Not to mention I found LMNT causing more palpitations and sabotagging my low-carb journey, unlike other brands like Keto 1000 which I find far more balanced in terms of the sodium/potassium/magnesium ratio. I strongly feel it was Maltodextrin causing my unsuccessful low-carb experience. Please do not estimate this issue. I hope your product does not contain Maltodextrin.

[@acfanter]

I have multiple bad food allergies and get dehydrated easily-was recommended LMNT -🎉have been trying to figure out for OVER A YEAR THE cause OF ITCHING HIVES AND RASH … now I know -

[@amandaharwood6126]

My goodness. I'm sorry, but glad you found out.

[@shalalameowmeow3601]

Sometimes I just feel its impossible to 100% avoid all this stuff.

[@slim_FATSO]

Maltodextrin aside. Lie to people about one thing, what else are they lying about?

[@Highintensityhealth]

That was my point of this video!

[@kevinfinch126]

It’s a big deal. I hate that they lied about it. It definitely hurts the credibility of the product. But even worse. Don’t try to minimize it by saying it’s such a small amount, only like 500mg, while at the same time promoting an LMNT serving with 200 mg sodium and 60mg magnesium and acting like that’s a meaningful dose. So based on those amounts, maltodextrin is a major component of the ingredients.

[@GreenfieldBhoy]

I don’t like to be lied to. I won’t be buying any more.

[@SimplyHuman186]

It's because you act like we knew. Or should have known. You are not sure why we are surprised? Because it's not on the label! so yeah that's probably the definition of suprise, not knowing something until that moment of learning it. That is an actual surprise lol. You didn't once say it should be listed on there. Just kept saying it's no big deal. I agree it's not a lot. Raising awareness ironically they don't make us aware the ingredients. Lol

[@george6252]

I agree and unsubscribed from this guy.

[@davidy5993]

Tis discovery just came out a week ago on YT, so not sure how this guy actually knew beyond that. He's just brining info to you. You're shooting the messenger. If you're not insulin resistant or have poor metabolic health then maltodextrin is not something to worry about (like this guy), but if you are then you should stop using this product because it's a starch that is worse than eating table sugar. Your glucose levels will spike off the charts.

[@robertbeckler5058]

Let the man with no sin cast the first stone.

[@davidy5993]

It's a big deal when you look at the channels promoting and sponsored by lmnt. Most channels involve metabolic health and people in that category tends to be insulin resistant. There are more maltodextrin than magnesium and potassium per serving and this is a starch that spikes glucose levels more than taking straight up sugar. It's safer to just put sugar in their product or more stevia. The brand states they only have 4mg after being caught but the product actually has 400mg of maltodextrin.

[@peterleblanc661]

I am trying to go 0 sugar and considering cutting even the small bits of stevia as well. I had assumed because of the labeling that lmnt was sweet because of the stevia. I'm sure that you're accurate about the quantity but it's not zero like claimed. Lies are lies.

[@AnneMB955]

Me too. Carnivore to me is zero sugar. I feel disappointed.

[@yerbudspud]

Good news, it still works if you get hit with natural flavoring stuff. I was consuming lmnt and the aha/bubly type of carbonated waters and still dropped weight.

[@chelseaK11]

When your bottom line is more important than human beings your company is no better than the Big Food Companies!!

[@weiss27md]

So it has more maltrodextrin than magnesium or potassium?

[@NoName83201]

I don’t eat crap, I was trying to eat clean. LMNT was advertised as a clean product. I had no idea maltodextrin is used to add flavor. I don’t want ANY maltodextrin and need to be in strict ketosis for my health

[@carlor.s.4742]

Maltodextrin is terrible! I went to buy dry roasted almonds. Ingredients: Almonds & maltodextrin. Left them in the bin. Our food supply is full of nasty chemicals.

[@ChristiMeshell]

So there’s more Maltodextrin than magnesium?? Dang

[@NoName83201]

More than potassium and magnesium combined

[@DobyDuke]

Everyone is mad because we want transparency! Promote that! You came off as defending lmnt in the video!

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

He was! Re-listen, more carefully.

[@Highintensityhealth]

I was not defending them! My thought process is, “how did you think it tasted so good? The sodium?!” They’re popular because they’re loaded with natural flavors.

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

@Highintensityhealth For clarity, from my take, I was defending you, as in telling DobyDuke that you were totally transparent, not defending LMNT.

[@SimplyHuman186]

​@@Highintensityhealthwe are not tasting maltodextrin! It's not enough to taste. The flavor and stevia and salt is what we taste. Lmao no " that's why it tastes so good because of maltodextrin " no dude.

[@george6252]

@@Highintensityhealth no longer trust you.

[@3SeasonsUSA]

I have always been sensitive to maltodextrin, if it is Barley derived. I avoid it whenever possible, read labels all the time. If I understand correctly, there is a corn based maltodextrin.

[@martinhafner2201]

Lying about food ingredients screws with people's health. It IS a big deal. It is a very aggressive carbohydrate. It has a higher glycemic value than sugar, which is an impressive feat. You seem to be very frantically defending it. Way too much push. Offensive and not balanced. Some people want NO carbs and especially NO sugars. My diet is my diet. No negotiation. Unsubscribing.

[@marshalla7102]

"Triggered" by your condescending tone, not the message.

[@winstonallen6933]

This guy beat up this dead horse in 2 minutes.....

[@Musewhisperer]

Here's the thing. I'm on carnivore as I'm working through inflammation management, and I'm trying to avoid artifical stuff. I suspect maltodexterin to be causing a pyrric effect on my immune system, mostly because it is absolutely F-ing everywhere. So when I look into products that are supposed to be natural and devoid of these substances, that's a primary selling point for me, not a secondary. The entire point of buying the product is this. If you have lied to me regarding this primary selling point, you have scammed me. You have broken our contract and I have a stock I need refunding. You have basically sold me food by saying there was no peanuts in it and I am allergic to peanuts. This is a proper case for liability and punitive damages. End of story.

[@mikespage0123]

Maltodextrin defense gets a downvote 😃 Maltodextrin is the devil 😈

[@NoName83201]

They knew diabetics and people who have have metobolic damage who could be sensitive. Also, they first said 400mg, but later admitted a lot more than that!! It has more maltodextrin than it has magnesium and potassium. Many of us did not know maltodextrin was a natural flavor

[@johnathonhuson8734]

maltodextrin spikes insulin higher than any other carb. They started putting it in our kraft peanut butter up here in canada as a filler, so if you are aiming for a keto or close to keto diet than this is important. maltodextrin is also in a lot of vitamins, which is much less of a deal.

[@terrilynnshoemaker5000]

I've been talking to a doctor but just found it out and she said 400 mg is a lot for someone who is insulin resistant or sick and going trying to go for health

[@petralincoln9503]

OMG! You don’t think it’s a big deal because you did the same thing! 🤯

[@conniek8881]

If I’m doing a 16-8, now I’m doing a 12-12 because they were disingenuous about their product. Running up the stairs will not help you. You already broke the fast.

[@Genxseven7]

if its not a big deal why not just get everything right from the beginning.

[@conniek8881]

You also keep saying for people they eat crap, I don’t eat crap and come look in my fridge anytime

[@rochellalves1722]

I usually don't disagree with you but people who take LMNT are most likely not eating doritos lol I think the problem here is dishonesty - it's the principle. If they dodge this and it's ok, what else are they (and others) hiding in their products?

[@suepopp9619]

I dont eat potato chips. Or gluten products or gluten free products.

[@R27035]

If this is actually mostly salt, then you might as well make your own electrolyte with real salt. Why pay for this?

[@HigherSelph]

“Everything you need and NOTHING you don’t”

[@naturallawgiver]

"Natural" flavors are also something to avoid

[@SimplyHuman186]

We are not tasting the maltodextrin. Its not enough to taste. It tastes good because of the flavors, stevia and salt. They should say " 0.4 grams maltodextrin" on each packet.

[@tricianottingham1785]

Thats what’s coming out…it’s not 0.4 Its 350-550

[@SNicole1242]

400mg is .4g

[@tricianottingham1785]

@@SNicole1242 oh😂my bad.

[@SimplyHuman186]

@tricianottingham1785 they said 4 milligrams Then said 400 milligrams. 0.004g vs 0.4g 100 times more than they said. Still not very much but it's about transparency

[@andreeacorina4146]

A flavour that has maltodextrin as a carrier doesn’t require to be labeled on the packaging by law. Blame those who make the food laws.

[@samikruse01]

All is bad! Day after day after day. It all adds up

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

Well then, stop eating. Problem solved.

[@samikruse01]

@@robinkleinsteuber5217 I personally have not tried that new processed food source. The point here is many people do a lot to stay away from additives that spike an insulin response.

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

@samikruse01 Well, yeah, agree with that. I do go to reasonable lengths to avoid insulin spiking foods. And I do not like processed food at all. So much raw food we buy is not perfect, though. So, I had thought you meant ALL foods rather than specific items. Whoops! 😬 🙄

[@samikruse01]

@@robinkleinsteuber5217 I keep trying my best to have a wonderful garden. I am learning to grow in the 🏜 desert. It is a lot different then where I grew up in the mid west.

[@stephanie_smith]

I tried LMNT years ago and though tasty I really wanted something that was not a sugary tasting water...I NOW USE LYTESHOW by LyteLine...made in the USA!! and gives me all I need to rehydrate...been using it for years with zero complaints.

[@bsmith6646]

Mate you come across a bit of a tit here. People see a product marketed everywhere by the likes of Rhonda Patrick and Andrew Huberman and this stuff has a fraction of minerals with far more of the bad stuff and you are basically laughing at them and calling them out. Sort it out buddy

[@Imstillyoshi]

I agree with you on the maltodextrin not being an issue. I take LMNT religiously. I take at least 2 packets during a gym session, and overall, about 4 packets a day. It has not hurt my ability to be in ketosis. I was at my highest ketones nmol/L to date today (1.4). I measure my ketones in my blood twice a day. LMNT has helped me from what I see. I had trouble getting beyond .05 nmol/L before (1) 20-30 hour fasts (2) removing all vegetables from diet except lettuce (3) removing sucralose from my diet.

[@samikruse01]

Watermelon in my blender is a great electrolyte.. lemon water, salt, cream of tar Tar. I give a crap! To answer your who gives a crap statement!

[@nerychristian]

I love taking culturelle and align before bed. Helps relieve acid reflux

[@alananderson5202]

Sorry Mike. I’m glad you talked about this. I was thinking of getting some LMNT. Nope. If you’re someone who is super sensitive to a lot of foods and chemicals it simply isn’t worth the risk.

[@papagreco]

Yes, but it can contribute to carb cravings for those who wish to completely abstain from sugars. LMNT should have listed this in their ingredients. Liquid Death released a competitive product with 8gms of sugar. I'll look into Myoxcience electrolyte offering,

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

Who knows what’s in the Myoxcience electrolytes if he thinks this is no problem!

[@ChrisHileman]

SALTT from Keto Chow has no maltodextrin. They pay extra to have their flavoring dried on acaia because they know people are sensitive to maltodextrin.

[@aaronash58]

I have no interest in LMNT, dont want any and even i found your response a bit weird. Does your product use it? You obviously know this stuff as you market your own products. If your going to give is a public service announcement, dont talk down to people. There's many things people dont know, are you goimg to ridicule them the next time a topic comes up. You jad a very mixed message in this. You say you understamd and then that you don't, that people should have known, what do people expect etc etc. Its not actually common knowledge. So try not to be condescending the next time when not common knowledge comes up considering the nature of your channel. I like you and your content usually this isnt an issue. You get a pass but you got push back becuase of how you reacted not really anything to so with lmnt or how natural flavours are made. Thanks for that bit information that i didn't know.. personally i agree that lmnt was an overpriced product, natural flavours sidnt come into my decision to avoid it

[@wkmac2]

If someone has insuline resistence or prone too, would this be a product one might recommend? If yes, OK. But if no.......

[@spakchitown]

I’d be more understanding if you just explained what the controversy is and the science of the ingredients rather than you offering your opinions and using terms like “butthurt”. I don’t make powdered drinks and I don’t have the time to research every single product I use. I read the label and trust what I see. Today, ingredients are really important information. I mean jeez why have them at all?

[@AttunedFlux]

The ratios of electrolytes for this product are pretty pathetic. Most people get more sodium than anything else, and not enough potassium or magnesium. I'd rather make my own powder mix and save a lot of money. If I'm going to buy something like that, it better not contain tons of a hidden ingredient with know side-effects under (natural flavors) and be mostly salt.

[@gaylegonzalez71]

Your right Mike Im happy that your not trashing them, but im upset that they weren't just honest about it

[@mbrochh82]

do they also spray ther unflavoured packages? I never understood why someone on keto or carnivore would buy the flavoured ones anyways, the whole point is to get rid of one's sweet tooth and avoid insulin spikes (which can happen even if the taste buds are just triggered with a sweet flavour, but zero carbs) at all cost.

[@teresawhite791]

A processed food or drink will always be processed! U never know what they might sneak into it to make it taste yummy… I never liked them, too much sodium and not much mag or potassium. And I am also bothered by everyone in keto or carnivore community’s promoting them constantly on you tube and then say” eat real food” really?

[@walkingmckinney]

Why are you talking down to everyone? You’re yelling at everyone like you own LMNT. I’ve never had the stuff because I make my own, but your defense of LMNT is just over the top.

[@stroobalicious]

I would echo a lot of sentiments all ready posted that you seem to be defending dishonest practices and it is uncharacteristic for your channel. I am upset by the principle of the matter.

[@williamlitsch5506]

I usually like your content. I don't like your supplements. They are overly sweet usually and have sketchy extra ingredients instead of purely what I'm looking for, so this bad take makes sense for you. It's only got a little bit of poision, you say. No thanks. You should be offering and promoting pure foods, not poisioned foods. Doesn't this mean that you and LMNT are just peddling more highly processed foods. Stop being part of the problem.

[@liliarosales1961]

Everyone heard the FIRST sentence and then went with “you’re defending them!” 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Maiseymax696]

No it's more of the "how could you not know" condescending tone that is making people unsubscribe

[@liliarosales1961]

@ Maiseymax696 angry people will hear what they want to hear. That includes a tone that’s not there.

[@laeconomistablockchain8177]

Does this break or affect a long prolonged fasting? I did consumed it on my last 15 days fasting and would like to know if I am missing fasting power for taking LMNT or should just stick to sea salt / himalayan salt/ salt de maras

[@dexxxter82]

You loose autophagy because of insulin spikes.

[@laurahuston2187]

I live in the desert, so have done much LMNT for years. When I do too much activity and sweating, and I feel the muscle restlessness, LMNT has helped me from night cramps (other than some other electrolyte sources). It's made me feel better, do well for workouts, and has no actual sugar. Am i looking for other sources now? Yes. Is 400 mg that significant to an active person? Actuality, from a scientific background, no. Should they have been more transparent? Probably.

[@hcf797]

It’s pronounced ‘element’

[@sabrinacansino5969]

THANK YOU!!!! Tired of hearing it mispronounced!!

[@hcf797]

@@sabrinacansino5969 you’re very welcome!

[@brianchandler3346]

Most likely, just some rando employee forgetting to carry the decimal over one more spot. Quantity wise, highly doubtful any meaningful effect excluding rare edge cases. I've taken plenty of low grade maltodextrin blended with sucralose (like 4 spoon fulls in coffee) and my blood ketones went from only 1.3 to 1.2. 400mg is nothing.

[@angiegallagher8315]

I have used LMNT for years and love it. I never seemed to elevated my blood glucose and definitely helped me on ultra trail runs.

[@kerrismith7391]

What if you are allergic to it? I am using unflavored now. Exercise for me has nothing to do with it. It is irritating to me because I was changing a lot to figure out what was going on. If that was noted I could have figured it out earlier. Live & learn.

[@chargermopar]

I eat meat, eggs, fermented dairy and drink water. That's fine with me.

[@nieuweabnormaal5869]

When you hear "natural flavors" on the package, do not buy it. Always make your own mixtures from the pure compounds. So no capsules and so on.

[@joen.8364]

Glad I never purchased this expensive stuff. There isn't really that much magnesium in it anyway! Sounds like this guy must have promoted it at some time, even if not "paid" for it.

[@tumblebugspace]

I was missing beverages since I quit daily sucrose consumption. Monk fruit, stevia, etc. are super sweet without a funky aftertaste (in the concentration I like), but the *mouthfeel* of the crystalline sugar was missing until I tried LMNT, and was blown away by it! I didn’t realize that *salt* provides the mouthfeel which is absent from herbal sweeteners. I’m now motivated to experiment with making my own. Orthorexia is actually a thing, you know, folks! Thanks for always making oodles of sense, Mike. ☮❤🐾

[@daughterofTheLion]

The same people use ketochow in their butterbombs and can't pass by a Quest bar display without buying at least one. Ok, now I am editing my attitude because so many people in these spaces are trying to heal such severe autoimmune diseases and metabolic imbalances that I understand that they feel betrayed. Kindness and understanding are usually a hallmark of these spaces so let's get along kids😊

[@someoneyoudontknow7705]

I had to google what “ketochow” was. That looks disgusting 🤢

[@Terri_2.0]

I never felt I should use LMNT. That´s what my food intake is for. And if I knew it had maltodextrine in it, I never would have even looked into using it. Flavored salt is an apt description...

[@meredithjackson9426]

Totally with you, Mike. I've never even tried LMNT because of the natural flavors.

[@ukejon]

Mike, You really touched a nerve here with your curiously snarky and dismissive tone. Really one of the more bizarre nutritional commentaries by an otherwise widely respected voice. I think you really should listen to what your long time supporters are saying here and do a second take on this LMNT issue. What Rob did was, by any measure, deceptive if not wholly dishonest. Moreover, it involved the use of an ingredient that many of us do not want to ingest. It really is not your right to say to those of us who feel duped “Hey folks, stop getting your panties in a bundle. It’s not that much maltodextrin and anyways you ding-a-longs should have know it was in there.” As it stands, I’ve lost faith in your advice after several years of following your videos. And I won’t, at this point, consider your alternative electrolyte because frankly given your dismissive tone it makes me think you may be hiding ingredients as well. I hope you reconsider your ill tempered initial response. Not a good look for you or your company.