Logan Paul's New Response is Horrible

[@Pupsker]

I like that Logans defense is "I failed to scam my audience because I got scammed. Therefore, I am the good guy." What a genius 👏

[@samfire3067]

Asmongold: he IS right, he didin't gain any money because he didin't finish The scam.

[@altair1015]

Scammer get scammed

[@Thefess]

Hasanbis bank heist analogy was pretty spot on.

[@ajmarion]

That’s the perfect way to put this 😂

[@squidhgf9997]

Didn't expect you to be here. Have a good day :)

[@NotLard]

Its kind of astonishing how in trying to accuse Coffee of defamation, he is starting to build an incredible case for Coffee to sue Logan for defamation.

[@yrn_glucose]

Insert Spider-Men pointing at each other meme

[@realmeal4598]

@@yrn_glucose what does that have to do with anything?

[@NaiveAgenda]

@@realmeal4598 everything

[@arrye7790]

@@yrn_glucose more like when green goblin tried to decapitate spider man who just ducked and it hit himself instead

[@Sudoku981]

@@realmeal4598 Because the meme is like pointing at each other trying to blame the other

[@endercrafter5104]

I love how Logan Paul's entire defense is that he's not malicious he's just wildly stupid and incompetent with some gross negligence thrown in

[@ayyyayay]

Isnt this the sambankman thing again, saying it isnt in malicious intent and that its just a whoopsie daisy im just too stupid to realise i scam people Like it hasnt even been a year

[@austin7118]

well guess what idiots making a mistake, vs weaponizing your channel to attack someones character, company and everything else on unproven allegations thats a hell of a lot worse. And your all part of it

[@wlockuz4467]

Wait that sounds like a similar act from someone who just got extradited from the Bahamas.

[@borisaustria4301]

So, he's pulling an SBF?

[@na3rial]

Glass Onion really couldn't have come at a better time

[@paigeh4231]

"My scam wasn't successful, therefore it wasn't a scam" There, I said it for him.

[@societiesmenace]

“ I didn’t even make any money in this project” fucking good

[@Shuffles_Art]

“My attempted murder wasn’t even successful, so I can’t be a murderer! What do you mean attempted murder is still a crime?”

[@praxzl]

“I tried to cheat on my girlfriend, yes. But she didn’t even like me therefore i didn’t cheat.”

[@Cinemadhouse]

“I didn’t commit any criminal acts. I only surrounded myself with people entrenched in criminal activity.” -Logan Paul

[@mekeluon4018]

@Bruh Bruh tf

[@gromple7231]

@Bruh Bruh you heard it hear first folks, you must be a child rapist if ever you want to be a better KZbinr than Charlie.

[@Mochibooty]

@@mekeluon4018already reported that bs

[@turretboi]

@@mekeluon4018 bot. Dni

[@Fat_Nutz]

"I didn't commit any crimes, I just planned and failed to"

[@darthmaul6074]

Logan - “Coffeezilla doesn’t check backgrounds!” Also Logan - hires a team of criminals

[@hoze1235]

I have made a severe and continuous lapse of judgment

[@matthewgiouvalakis796]

@@hoze1235 …and I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m simply here to apologize.

[@bluesky2195]

He didnt exactly hire them though

[@begula5281]

@@bluesky2195 no

[@JustWowNick]

So true Darth Maul.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The only reason logan didn't sell is not out of the kindness of his heart but because they agreed to sell when it reached a certain market cap which it never did. That's the only reason, because he wanted to rug pull at a higher price.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@user-cb9cd5qj6k okay...

[@DelGTAGrndrs]

@Bruh Bruh imagine crying this much. Stay mad

[@nicoperez9984]

literally he talks about it basically being a pump n dump, just wanted to hype it up n al that 🤦🏻the other guy just ruined it by pulling out super early lol

[@wellwell7950]

Exactly!

[@I1-_Ok_-1I]

@@DelGTAGrndrsdon't reply, I heard that replying makes the KZbin moderation think it's a real person and not a bot because they think it's engaging in conversation Atleast that's what I heard... Idk if it's true but it's better to ignore them anyway my guy

[@scandicwolf]

The fact that Logan Paul says Coffezila doesn't do background checks while he literally hired criminals to run his project is hilarious to me.

[@DevINCProd]

It’s amazing isn’t it? Moist absolutely buries Logan in this video and I love it

[@Goz969]

This was such a dogshit response lmao.

[@anthonylucero6650]

🗑️🤖

[@anthonylucero6650]

🐑

[@_Gam3r]

@@anthonylucero6650 S H E E P shaddup

[@tisthallium]

Logan: "I'm not malicious" Also Logan a few minutes later: "Now if I were coffee I would be milking the shit out of these victims"

[@Alixer560]

Ironic as FUCK

[@RonaldMoreira123]

I noticed that little slip up too 🤦‍♂️ this dude has zero self awareness

[@pIacebo]

Happy New Years !

[@larkyyyn3435]

A good, hard, laugh. Thank you for this moment of joy in an otherwise dark reality. I will forever be indebted to you, in the amount of one open mouth kiss.

[@serpalex2922]

That's what happens when fame hits the tower. Logan have some complex where everyone is to blame but not him. You where about to take part in some shady business with some criminals, the thing is that they outsmarted YOU. You aren't smart. ADMIT IT!

[@synthiandrakon]

It's so funny to me that Logan is saying "you reached out to my manager not me personally" it like holy shit that's literally what a manager is for.

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

I’m not entirely convinced Logan knows what a manager is for. I am also convinced that Jeff is the worst manager ever. Jeff’s call with coffeezilla was so disastrous it’s comical

[@superultragiggachigga]

He got so angry on that part 😂 like you have coffee blocked on twitter, he got mad when he DM’d his IG, and was upset when he got his personal phone number/ sent the emails. How else was coffee supposed to reach you? That video is so funny every I watch it. He’s trying so hard and really thinks his slams prove anything 😂 what a joke

[@Ilive_420]

@@thehoodedteddy1335 He has worse social skills, or rather he talks through the phone worse than me and I'm possibly the shiest neurodivergent idiot that ever idioted lol

[@superultragiggachigga]

@@thehoodedteddy1335Jeff is terrible. I love how on the podcast Jeff didn’t really back Logan up. He’s just trying to save himself. When Logan was kinda leaning for Jeff to back him on his character as a person, Jeff just kept replying, “sure, yeah sure”. Literally did not care.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

the thing is he did reached out then Logan blocked him and then he reached out to Jeff

[@aaravg7850]

"Coffee isn't reliable because he constantly promotes his Patreon" Logan 5 seconds later: "Make sure to stay hydrated and buy prime tho"

[@JohannaTheStargazer]

I KNOW ahaha! Freaking hypocrite

[@DanielJamesPeart]

Oh primes a Logan Paul venture? I didn't know that. Will never purchase it now.

[@valdemartomlinson]

i also just wanna point out to the people that don't watch CoffeeZilla he don't promote his patreon constanly i have watch most of his videos and this was the first time i heard about it,

[@HTTYDFAN4092]

@@DanielJamesPeart yes it’s a KSI and Logan Paul collab drink

[@marijuanaknowsomething6743]

He clearly meant to say " I'm not a reliable person, all I do is promote my brand and scam my fans."

[@ivon1671]

He might have removed the response video, apologised, and he might refund all the money the victims invested...but he's sure as hell not doing it because he wants to. EDIT: of course, he still didn't even give a refund to anyone. I was a fool for expecting him to do the bare minimum.

[@victoriacrudup3477]

True and if he ever tries to launch another project as well I'd hope people not be stupid enough to ever involve themselves with anything remotely tied to him.

[@thedoggo6618]

​@@victoriacrudup3477Unfortunately cryptozoo happened post-Dink Doink, so it's probably gonna happen again

[@King_Minos64]

@@thedoggo6618 Crypto bros are the easiest to scam people on earth right now. They have formed a culture of extreme risk taking. They literally denounce people for being cautious by yelling “FOMO” and then spend their entire savings on the *chance* something actually takes off and isn’t a scam. They are a community of habitual internet gamblers.

[@luisgay5897]

@@victoriacrudup3477 You underestimate the stupidity of his fans.

[@pushkar260]

Not refunded

[@TheCoyoteGray]

I’ve never seen a person handle a situation like this in every wrong way possible, it’s actually impressive how stupid Logan’s plan is in all this, attack the character of the person who exposed him, play innocent for working with criminals, try to farm sympathy in the most obviously shoehorned way possible, refuse to refund people, never say sorry, refuse to address points made against him, play the victim, and that’s not even all of it

[@TheUltimateDetective]

The fact that he didn't compensate anyone throughout all of this is pretty strange. Giving him the benefit of the doubt here and assuming that his project really is a "way to game and make money". Why wouldn't he give back money to the people who were robbed out of the money that was for them? His decision to hire the peope without proper background checks is also odd. How is it that Coffeezilla investigated these people and found holes in their story better than Logan and his team? Shouldn't that have been Logan's job?

[@mattkaustickomments]

You forgot about him closing with pushing his junk project.

[@dopesickdog]

@@TheUltimateDetective playing devils advocate here but - since he technically hasn't sold his ZOO (due to the project being rugged from him before _he_ could rugpull), there's no good way to quantify exactly how much he'd owe, unless he examined each blockchain transaction individually which he'll never do because he's a dumbarse and wouldn't understand how

[@X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X]

PREACH!

[@manny5314]

It’s so stupid… it’s impaulsive *ba dum pow* 🥁

[@tahlia03]

I never thought that a guy who chose to film a dead body and then post it would then go on to continue digging himself a bigger hole. This man’s confidence and ego needs to be studied

[@JOLLYBALLZ]

Study white privilege?

[@ursensitiveinagayway4016]

I saw the video of the dead body an hour after it came out it had 300k views around and I was shocked he actually filmed it I wasn’t scarred just shocked it was on KZbin

[@BIGWIGGLE223]

Wait a sec...... This is something I did not know about. Logan has always came across as a scamming clout chaser to me so I haven't seen much of anything he's done since he was posting videos on Facebook 15 years ago. Does not surprise me at all. Reminds me of my career criminal little brother.

[@JP_-oq3xn]

That really puts it in perspective… to actually edit a video and a dead person is part of that film and still posted it for millions of people to see. Just goes to show that the human race have amnesia. How could Logan do that?! What if someone found a body of someone he loves and someone posted it and millions of people saw and even liked the video 🤣 human race is doomed

[@TheFuckingDope]

dont forget the stupidity also

[@MortimerZabi]

The more Logan talks, the more the law graduate in me cries. What he's done is deny fraud by admitting to negligence. And if that negligence is gross, it could be tantamount to intent. If a simple google search could have brought up everything he said about his partners, and if he even has info that wasn't on Google, then the onus was on him to pick a different crew. He saw the fire and walked into it along with his fans. I think that's crossing over from the realm of inadvertence to recklessness.

[@mariya_tortilla]

mmmm, delicious.

[@alecbonerchamp7399]

I’ve been looking for a law student on here, can I sell crack to babies??

[@dmvbawse4265]

Bro I saw a video from a lawyer who couldn’t stop laughing at how insane Logan sounds and how bad he’s manager sounded on the phone with coffee. He stated no chance he wins.

[@mburg33]

Logan’s team was told about Ibanez being a fake way before launch so yes, I would love criminal charges from fraudster all the way down to criminal negligence. Logan is too dumb to realize that by using “I’m a dum dum” as a defense makes you a risky investment not worthy of any business partnership. Logan is also projecting a ton here.

[@loverboy18k]

That was a mouthful in my head

[@nommnincsa]

"It wasn't successful therefore it was not a scam" sure, bud. Sure.

[@DrKickleKackle-rd7xm]

I am repeating this off a comment off another video. but this is like robbing a bank and saying that I didn’t get any money for myself so it’s not a crime

[@Timothy-Clifford]

​@@DrKickleKackle-rd7xmI'd argue the robber would have a better case than Logan

[@NeroNyte]

The fact that their first defense is to try to specifically define the word scam itself, is really telling

[@georgia2321]

I’d think he’d know at least *one* attorney who’d tell him that filing a suit for defamation opens him up to the discovery process pre-trial. And that would make the trial completely pointless once it proves that it WAS a scam, and that Coffeezilla wasn’t lying- and probably brings even more shady shit to light. ANY actual lawyer would tell Logan to stfu and that there’s no way he can expose himself to discovery.

[@robertobrien1069]

@@georgia2321 yup. No shot he has talked to a GOOD lawyer. I’m sure he has talked to a shitty lawyer. A lawyer who will charge him out the ass and give him bad faith advice. Need Legal Eagle to react to the situation.

[@krth337]

Obv one has to define words

[@damien9683]

We live in a world where instead of facing the facts, they try to *redefine* WHAT the facts are. Like, "What is a woman?" "What is considered a vaccine?" "What is considered the truth?" "FICTION being held in higher regard than FACTS"....

[@krth337]

@@damien9683 In order to have a meaningful discussion about difficult topics, one first does have to establish the boundaries of said discussion. How could you ever succeed when there is no consensus of conditions between parties?

[@ebgrisi]

"Where Coffee fucked up, was targeting me as some malicious super villain" I thought Coffee did a super good job on portraying the two being the really malicious super villains and you being the bumbling buffoon, you played the comic relief in this, Logan Holy shit moist critical hit right there

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

Classic self-incrimination via projection. Steven never called Logan a villain, yet Logan felt the urge to say "I'm not a villain." Like getting pulled over by a cop who asks "Do you know how fast you were going?" and you responding "No sir, also I definitely don't have any weed on me."

[@billybussey]

I LOLd hard when he said that.

[@Z4NKA1]

He’s not a bafoon tho 😂

[@sperd8998]

@@Z4NKA1 yeah hes just a piece of garbage and a criminal 😂

[@Joovisplaystrash]

@zenkai yeah it's buffoon not bafoon straight facts yo 🤙

[@NR-fd9wv]

just imagine a world where the "i didn't make money, therefore i'm innocent" defense actually worked: you rob a bank, the police arrives as you leave the building and you just drop the bag of money and walk home like nothing ever happened.

[@tortillachips3911]

amazing, youd get so many no risk attempts

[@nullskey8370]

you get no jail for attempted murder, bc they’re not dead. a lil bit of arson? is not like the whole house came down /:

[@luislebronaponte2737]

*drops money bags Police officers: "Must've been the wind."

[@NR-fd9wv]

​@@nullskey8370 also no jail for killing someone in a robbery, if that guy was broke

[@adamharitann]

amazing analogy too 😂 logan is ridiculous

[@dannonyogurt98]

I really wished he'd tried to sue. Imagine the things we'd learn in discovery.

[@minhnghiem9623]

My man suing coffee is like him commiting both financial and internet suicide since if he loses and he fucking will if he does sue then coffee can then use his evidence to counter sue which will lead to him having to 1 try to disprove coffee claims and 2 allow coffee to get his hands on a lot more evidence than wat he currently has and then like someone up there said if the feds see this as opportunity to look into Logan they can quite literally demand to see every details of Logan’s bullshit and brand him a couple of boxing match in prison

[@drewthompson7173]

Thats probably why he didn't. Logan would have to show all conversations and documents to prove coffe was lying. Since coffe wasn't logan would lose the lawsuit and everything he was hiding woul become public record.

[@levievil9220]

@@minhnghiem9623 imagine if the irs got involved

[@minhnghiem9623]

@@levievil9220 well sadly enough he made his bs apology and didnt even have the balls to post it on his main channel

[@Софија-крафт]

​@@levievil9220if they found out he wasn't paying taxes he'd be so fucked

[@26debjotydutta69]

Moist: I refuse to believe that he is that blatantly ignorant. Logan: oh believe me I am that guy

[@lightningbolt4419]

You’re not that guy pal

[@ronniemarshall7684]

The new meme format I've been waiting for.

[@gama103]

@@lightningbolt4419 Trust me, you're not that guy

[@claudetourreau1326]

in the arms of the angels

[@ThatDamnedTurk]

Logan: Hold my Coffee.

[@zachrocks]

the irony of logan’s ignorance is almost shakespearean. he’s actively defaming coffeezilla by accusing coffeezilla of defaming him. it’s so perfect

[@supremo555]

Poetic my dude, so poetic…

[@romanec.c.petiot9876]

👩‍🍳👌🏽

[@lightningbolt4419]

@@supremo555 wrong!

[@lei1384]

@@lightningbolt4419 your point being what lol

[@austin7118]

hes not dude? coffee weaponized his fan base in an attack and caused irreparable damage to cryptozoo? Not logan, logan didnt affect the price at all good or bad he just lost with everyone else. The only other thing was a world wide crypto crash that no one can control so guess what the only real person or lowered the value of cryptozoo is coffee. Dont forget the idiot lied and stole the phone call to do it too. So keep cheering for the guy who actually caused 100s of thousands of people to lose money. Because cryptozoo will never escape the shadow of his video

[@nikori4994]

Just a heads up to anyone watching this before Penguinz makes a second video about this: Logan deleted the podcast episode and uploaded an apology to Coffeezilla. Essentially his Lawyers saw the podcast, had a panic attack and yelled at him to take it down. Even they saw the blatant bullshittery of it

[@juanQuedo]

At least he has someone with a functional brain giving him advice. That must be a victory for his fans

[@kl657]

The podcast episode is still up??

[@whatTFisThis]

Bro i legit read that last part as Penguinz said "nobody guves him good advice" Man at least hus lawyers did

[@utubrGaming]

What probably happened: Logan: Yo, it's Logan. Lawyer: it's your lawyer, and I just saw your video response. Logan: So how we're gonna go after coffee? Lawyer: Listen here, "Logs". I'm ending your reality distortion field. 1, Jeff isn't pressing wiretapping charges since he's your MANAGER and supposed to respond to press questions AND Stephen's in a one party consent state. 2. You don't have a defamation case against Stephen since you're a public figure. Puerto Rico, California and Texas has anti slapp laws against frivolous lawsuits to silence public enquiries so if anything, he could counter-Sue us and likely win. And if you wanna open THAT can of worms, suing him means his legal team can look into ANY communications relating to your crypto schemes AND we have to disprove that you had intent to scam. So far, what Stephen is able to dig up already makes you liable for conspiracy to commit wire fraud and insider trading at minimum. And if the Feds decide to take a look after Stephen's done with you, and THEY have the ability to dig into stuff that Stephen's not privy to, the next boxing match you'll be having will be in a federal penitentiary. Don't talk to me again until you get some more braincells.

[@izaakeastman2984]

I just listened to the episode though???

[@machspeed5025]

Let this not deter you from remembering that Logan Paul is still as smooth brained as he was when he thought it was a good idea to film AND POST a video of him going into the suicide forest in Japan.

[@Софија-крафт]

yep that's going down in internet history lol Can't believe it's been 5 years since then

[@interlace84]

He never fully realized just how lucky he got to walk away from the Japan incident-- him *STILL* having the balls to go after Coffee and this scheme should be his final free strike.

[@prolastmedia6171]

The blonde hair and Blue eyes will always be his saving grace. He's the perfect American - Aryan and hyper capitalist

[@Reliztik82]

@@prolastmedia6171 I mean if Logan can get away with all of this maybe Hitler was right about blonde hair blue eyes being the master race

[@JediMentat]

@@prolastmedia6171 yikes, big time commie coo-coo bird here

[@AustinH7]

@@prolastmedia6171 found the racist

[@WalkeeTalkeeMan]

Those are not balls. Balls make you rightful, accountable and corageous, not delusional and ridiculous

[@Egypt_Mummy]

His response is just, “And I would’ve gotten away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling kids”

[@nullskey8370]

it would have been more dignified lmao

[@mylo9753]

*pulls Logan Paul mask off his head

[@tastefulmoose]

Why is this so good

[@bonesmcgee6213]

@@mylo9753 reveals Jake Paul

[@nasbukhari696]

@@bonesmcgee6213lmfao

[@AK47Uprising]

He did the old dirty delete, stopped threatening lawsuits, apologized to coffeezilla, and claimed he was gonna take accountability. Must have been a hell of a lot of backlash.

[@devondixon820]

What Where is the apology?? 😂😂

[@metalslugworth]

I think that Logan Paul's response to Coffeezilla being deleted is the WORST handling of drama/scandals since James Charles deleting his "Holding myself accountable" apology video.

[@nikyabodigital]

He apologized so hard after coffee announced the video is dropping. He probably peed his pants.

[@francescoboselli6033]

Or simply his layer told him "stop being so stupid or find a new layer" or something like that 😂

[@sisu9663]

Deleting is the most hilarious outcome... the internet is forever, Logan

[@TommyJohnsen446]

Saying it cant be a scam if you didn't make any money is like trying to say you didn't break in to the jewelry store because you didn't manage to get away with anything

[@aliawahfallacy]

Charlie is like the news broadcaster we've always wanted

[@NicoEdgy]

@Patrick39 bot 39

[@jota19FL]

@Patrick39 yo need a shower bro, your videos say so 😊

[@OhsoWoobie]

Waiting for HBO to sign him like Channel 5

[@MrUssy101]

Logan did made very valid points if you listen to his podcast regularly he is an honest person and victim of scam himself.

[@Kikin3457]

I rather see Charlie than the actual news.

[@Primal2229]

Fun fact for the non PDS watchers. Bias is actually a new word in Logans vocab. When Phil had him on to talk, Logan calling Phil bias in all his reporting as a compliment... where Phil then explained to him, like a child, what bias actually means and that he's basically been insulting him the whole time.

[@enzoo3710]

Moron probably thought its the same as "based" I guarantee it lmao

[@AussieRider20]

I remember watching that thinking "dude why are you insulting him so happily"

[@TheMetasora]

What the fuck?

[@Chas-OTE]

@@AussieRider20 What if, and hear me out here, he thought "bias" was "based"?

[@lolkingftw4804]

@@Chas-OTE i thought of the same thing haha

[@conorwade1880]

Watching this 10 months on and seeing how Logan didn’t suffer any consequences, in fact his career has actually gotten bigger and more successful, is proof that there’s no justice

[@bluedistortions]

Yep. And his responses and continual growth is proof most people are idiots and do actually deserve to be scammed. Hope they're enjoying their $10 Logan energy drinks.

[@spiralspark8523]

Legit kids ruined the internet, most people over my age would consider me a kid and I am firm in the belief nobody under like 18 should be allowed on the internet

[@gottaluvdd]

@@spiralspark8523adults do terrible things online everyday & are most likely keeping him in business & popular as well. it ain’t just them kids..

[@joshuawilliams9247]

@@spiralspark8523I am legit convinced that people under 18 or 20 shouldn’t be allowed on the internet

[@nickmitch1734]

It’s largely in part to ksi. For some reason, likely his history and legacy, ksi and his reputation are indestructible and he dragged Logan back up with him through prime and all the other publicity he gave him. No one cares when these giant influencers do anything wrong. Ksi can say and do whatever he wants. The dude cheated on his gf a few years back and no one even blinked.

[@dr.deadpool5959]

“I didn’t make any money from this therefore it’s not a scam” “I hired a hitman to kill my ex but I didn’t pull the trigger therefore I’m innocent” It’s amazing how years later after the whole Japan situation he still has the mentality of a child

[@Jommy56]

Not trying to be rude but isn't it the hitman didnt pull the trigger?

[@rataarctica]

@@Jommy56 Then that would mean that everyone still have their money.

[@mikeg6880]

That analogy doesn't make sense and is unfair

[@woodstock7063]

@Mike g It's the perfect analogy. It's implying that just because you didn't commit the act of the crime, you're guilty for orchestrating it.

[@herminator1613]

More like "I tried to kill my ex by shooting her but I missed, therefore I'm innocent"

[@xXnostalgicXx]

“We were in a spa in Qatar and I saw this pain in your face bro” I am so amazed this is actually a sentence that exists now.

[@system0fadowner251]

None of those words are in the Bible

[@tiaramcdonald5930]

Idiot’s. Lol

[@indigo7898]

"poor logan, anway, can i get a refill here slave?" could be his words and i would believe it

[@vakho30]

You have to be so delusional to say it so nonchalantly LOL.

[@immortal3293]

LMAOOO

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

I love how the one guy actually asked a decent question on how he's going to help the people who got hurt and he immediately turned it into "I'm the victim here"

[@andreasredclift2437]

Epic narcissism moment

[@RontheDon420]

@Patrick39 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@abelvelazquez7134]

​@@p-__ your not funny

[@casedistorted]

That’s a good scammer who can rationalize anything. He has no empathy for any one of his fans, not a good person to invest in.

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

I’m assuming that since he didn’t make any money off the “scam” he doesn’t feel responsible for the hundreds of thousands of dollars his own fans lost. Despite the fact that he was the face of the entire thing and was promoting it incessantly. He was the reason so many of his fans went in financially in the first place. Coffee showed in his exposé that every single one of the “founders” including Logan were trying to game the system from behind the scenes in order to line their own pockets with low-level investor (aka fan) money. The reason he’s lashing out at Coffee and crying about this whole mess is simply because he got the brunt of all the negative publicity with absolutely zero financial benefit. Like dude… if you had your way that “stolen money” would be in your own bank account and not refunded back to your fans. The whole thing is just so gross.

[@ATLTraveler]

The best part is when George brings up the only decent point in the entire podcast (even though the other guy is supposed to be playing "devils advocate") about how a lot of the people who invested really don't have a lot of money to spare but trusted it because it ONLY because it was Logan and they trusted him. Then his stupid other friend interrupts and thinks that's a great time to bring up when him and Logan were at the SPA in QATAR attending the WORLD CUP and Logan looked really sad...lol... talk about relatable my man. Most the people whose money got stolen will never ever in their life be able to afford to attend the world up...in a foreign country on the other side of the planet... while staying in a 5 star hotel... and taking advantage of their massively overpriced spa... like WOW! great point my man! He looked sad :(

[@lemonywater2979]

These guys are abhorrent. They're just so unaware of real people's everyday struggles.

[@victoriacrudup3477]

It is the sheer lack of accountability. Just wow. Second he brings up a good point he turns it around.

[@gabrote42]

As an argentine whose countrymen sold cars and mortgaged houses to be there in very shitty accomodation, this comment hits hard

[@OpalBLeigh]

I don’t watch imPAULsive but from what I’ve seen George occasionally makes good points. He’s one of the few people Logan should keep; everyone else he needs to 86. Except the lawyer who told him to delete everything. He can stay.

[@LostStarzOfTheSky]

These guys all are talking to the man who funds them, he is their boss. It's ridiculous

[@karlipeters3472]

i laughed for 10 minutes straight when Logans friend said something and Logan responds with "great question" even though their was no question

[@ShrodingersHat]

LMFAO same hahahahahahaaaa, that slayed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Douglas.kong33]

He was a bit eager to get to the questioning😂

[@probox88]

For real 😂 like these questions mike are little peewee level softball

[@theisgood0]

Yeah cause in Logan’s little brain he actually thinks he’s intelligent. What’s that word for someone who is so stupid they think they are super intelligent. Well anyways whatever it is that is the description of the Paul Brothers.

[@kairos7862]

the question was probably before the camera was rolling, use common sense is something I've been hearing a lot from this community

[@lawnchair8716]

I’m also convinced he’s not actually going to sue Coffeezilla. If he was talking to a lawyer they would tell him DO NOT talk about it especially on your podcast because ANYTHING you say could hurt your case. Just like him admitting to all the things coffee got correct. Doing this episode could only hurt your case for defamation Just release a short statement saying “I didn’t do what the Coffeezilla series accused me of, it is not based in fact I would never scam my fans and I plan on pursuing legal action against Coffee for these completely false claims” Logan’s a 🤡

[@justpotato8119]

Yeah but he is dumb enough to do all of this and hire a Lawyer AFTER the fact

[@victoriazero8869]

That never stopped SBF lmao, Logan Paul is impulsive enough to talk shit even with lawyer screaming at him to stop

[@invernessego]

i feel like he might still push for the suit to go to trial, just to hurt coffee financially.

[@maybemablemaples2144]

@@victoriazero8869 the Coffeezilla effect at work. That man could crack a gobstopper with just vibes alone. These men are incapable of not incriminating themselves.

[@DomKPa]

@@victoriazero8869 You mean “impaulsive enough?” You know? Like his podcast? Yeah im gonna stop

[@barnaclefelching4079]

I like how Coffee presented this whole thing in the first place, he doesn't just say he did some investigating, he actually takes you through it, shares it, a lot of transparency, anyone siding with Logan on this is long gone

[@davekurt1433]

All the wwe nerds are fully on the Logan propaganda because he has "passion", hates Andrew Tate ( I also do ) and is a spot monkey

[@Douglas.kong33]

I really like your username lol

[@SuperChaoticus]

Celebrity worship is a powerful thing. Just look at all the incels that refuse to believe their hero, Andrew Tate is a criminal piece of garbage.

[@luxuryxcoffin]

For sure coffee blew his shit out so hard.

[@lonelylama5222]

Logan Paul hasn't changed one bit, he has just made it look like he changed for many years and now he is showing his true colors again, just like he did in Japan.

[@Nemenis]

The real clowns are people like you who THOUGHT he changed. It was so obvious he didn’t change. He himself has admitted he grew a beard and did the “personality change” for sales in his merch and also prime.

[@Micah.Dalton]

This remains true to this day

[@CyanAmity]

Still true unfortunately… 😞

[@jamesmason7979]

"He made me look like a super villain." No, he didn't. Logan didn't even seem like the worst person involved in all of this. His manager and other business partners came across much worse.

[@dnache7553]

So correct. “He made me out to be a super villain.” NO Paul he made you look like exactly what you are an idiot that got scammed while trying to scam. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@ssfbob456]

If anything Logan just came out looking like an idiot.

[@YourAverageBunny]

Big man JEFF

[@wisteriapetals]

Exactly

[@nafereuskortex9055]

He does now though. "Neahh, Now im gonna bleed you dry superman, I have more money than you and I will sue you, neahh ha ha ha!"

[@Ineedgames]

Logan: "I love my fans" Charlie: "Give them their money back" Logan: "...Not as much as they love me"

[@GrindOnTime]

This is exactly it. Sociopaths who have convinced themselves that they are better that you.

[@bullfootball9757]

If he drops a dance apology i think we should all forgive him

[@davidstahl3164]

Sienna mae collab👀

[@KAMUPhobies]

well, he is young and free

[@ericsuh3185]

@@KAMUPhobies He did nothing wrong, he's young 👀

[@SquaulDuNeant]

NO but would be entertaining

[@CeeJayDee94]

as long as they are fortnite dances

[@aussieitv]

"He doesn't verify backgrounds... Unlike me, I verified everyone who we hired" Also, he is a public figure, so him filing a defemation case means he has to meet the higher standard, and it's extremely hard (albiet not impossible) for public figures to successfully win a case with the higher standard applied.

[@huntercool2232]

The more I watch Logan, the more fascinated I am when discovering there is absolutely no limits to his stupidity.

[@calebmadrid4115]

Ah man fr

[@TrackpadProductions]

He's done a great job convincing his audience that he's stupid - the problem is that he's not actually as stupid as people think he is. Don't get me wrong, he's an idiot. But he's not stupid. He doesn't need to convince _everyone_ that he's actually innocent. Just his fanbase. And they _always_ give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@TheMarcusNyberg]

More fascinated with the stupidity of his fans.

[@hotscum6970]

Dude don’t even give him views. I know it’s like looking at a car crash but best to ignore-better for your mental health and faith in humanity.

[@dionstewart7394]

@@TrackpadProductions Underrated comment.

[@zambachoo]

It was literally like a mob boss. Hire criminals to steal money and then blame it on them when caught. He was probably behind the scenes saying “y’all screwed up and got caught, your plan didn’t work, now I’m gonna place the blame on y’all.”

[@JaredConnell]

At least mafia bosses live by omerta. Logan just throws everyone under the bus as soon as things go bad

[@elderassassin9673]

Mob bosses eliminate loose ends so this isn't like a mob boss

[@notsaying]

trailer park boys jail dummies

[@gloopaboopin]

@@elderassassin9673 Obviously Logan’s not going to ice people over a crypto scam, but he’ll definitely perform character assassination on them

[@sayan_tan]

Mob bosses are intelligent. Logan is stupid. He is just lucky being a white American. If he was a minority, administration and media would have roasted and fried him into ashes.

[@saint1743]

-group of thieves throughoutly plan to rob a bank -the robbery fails because there was a back stabber who took all the money and escaped -others with zero money gained from the robbery gets caught by cops -they claim innocence as they did not get any money from the robbery, "I did not rob a bank because I did not get any money I am innocent" ~robber guy #1.

[@resof]

Best example. Easy to understand. 10/10

[@KixMusaid]

Charlie: I don’t believe Logan is that dumb, I refuse to believe it Logan: trust me dude, I am that guy

[@variadi]

Logan calling Coffeezilla greedy, is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[@MeatSlap30]

Fr like even if he WAS greedy and only made the videos for money, he’s still calling it out and helping a shit ton of people on the way, so at that point he deserves it. He’s not even stealing from anyone

[@yuki97kira]

Pot calling the ceramic black

[@mrloqqe1610]

@@MeatSlap30 right, ofc he wants to make money just as everyone else, that's not greedy. greedy is when you're already obscenely rich and still choose to scam your audience for millions without remorse.

[@georgevincentcorneby4023]

Yeah. It's like Judas calling you a traitor

[@Misanthropolis]

@@mrloqqe1610 Not to mention the upload frequencies. Coffee releases a banger long video how often compared to Logan's shitty short videos? Pretty sure spamming content is grade-A greed, and Coffee is not doing any of that.

[@TenaciousLeeTV]

Horrible person does horrible things and responds horribly. Shocking. Almost like we've never seen something just like this from him before...

[@cainer_exe]

The worst part is people still have sympathy for horrible people like this.

[@Pahthum]

@@cainer_exe🥁🥁🎺🎻🎻📯🎷🪗🎼

[@smvml89]

Mike's sentence "It's so sad that back when we were in that spa in Qatar I could see that sadness in your eyes" depicts their whole personalities

[@CupidFeathers]

"i've made a severe...."

[@NoNameEst1992]

@@cainer_exe love me a good symphony

[@hoonaignachowaneha]

The benefit to society Logan has provided is he is a perfect case study of unbound narcissism.

[@higoodbye7545]

Well worded 😂

[@kevinmahaley4916]

@@zirotsero6951 logan: that's defamation

[@Mundane_Madelyn]

Noooo a doctor said he has brain damage so that excuses all of his past shitty narcissistic behavior 🥺

[@ashurad_fox5991]

Ah, don't worry this is a good reference for my case study for "does attacking a person's character help in trying to disprove and argument, defense or thesis?" So far, It's via landlside that it's not a great idea! (But great for my case study)

[@Peanutdenver]

I didn't know the name of his podcast was Impaulsive...what an absolute ass clown. I'm assuming his core audience is 14 year olds, as anyone over the age of 20 would see right through this bullshit artists shell game.

[@Sivart223]

Logan: “I’m going to sue Coffeezilla.” Coffeezilla: “See you in Discovery.”

[@alliezah]

Logan is just a teenager that never grew up, at least intellectually. And him saying "ruin my reputation" when he doesn't have any to begin with is just hilarious. Dude's been the most entertaining shit I've seen this year.

[@WTFBUTWHY]

They say you are forever the age you got famous at.

[@mrv.3768]

Bro the year just started 😭😭😭

[@simonpeters9324]

He had rebuilt his reputation SLIGHTLY. Definitely dead now though

[@SF-tt7ed]

@@mrv.3768 he prob means last year😭😭😭

[@sunriseparrabellum5505]

@@mrv.3768 we’re in the 2022 hangover, give them time

[@bigtexasyeehaw]

I’m so glad to see that most of the internet is on Coffee’s side. I hope Logan comes to his senses and make this about the people who matter the most in this case: the victims.

[@Unknownz000]

He's in his senses. He's simply trying to manipulate his audience into siding with him. We all know logan doesn't give a shit about anyone and claiming he's just not in his senses is a massive massive reach. He knows what he's doing and it's going as he planned. People act like he isn't a fully cognitive grown adult and that hes just ignorant of everything around him and fail to relize they're being played.

[@dogebama]

I don't really care what Logan does at this point because it's clear he DOESN'T have any sense and any type of "redemption arc" he has is just some guise for the next bullshit he's gonna pull. This isn't a one-off thing, this is a show of character. Logan is a opportunistic unsympathetic egotist who seeks every chance to make himself some money or clout no matter who gets hurt in the process. He did it to a dead body, he did it with a rat, he did it with NFTs, he's NOT a good person and people need to come to their senses and see that. But they won't, because all publicity is good publicity.

[@Zupesable]

He will not. He's a sociopath. Keeping your hopes up here is insane.

[@SecureInMyHead]

What does the public opinion matter? As long as Suzan is his sugar mommy, he’ll never face justice.

[@kkiley1252]

Never going to happen because he doesn't give a fuck about the victims lmao

[@darenmiller2218]

Meat Canyon’s cartoon about Paul is spot on. Instead of apologizing in the cartoon for stealing this dudes clothes, he just tries to play some old apology videos he made for him. Then when non of them match the situation, Paul tells the guy, “eh just give it a couple weeks and we’ll be even Steven, ok?” It’s so freaking epic. Everyone should go check it out. 😂

[@Nels_77]

That was hilarious 😂

[@P3R50N4]

The Mike impersonation has to be one of the funniest thing I’ve seen on this platform so far

[@JRHobbs]

@@P3R50N4it was such a good portrayal of him 😂

[@Heather-sb1he]

Yoooo i came here to tell everyone to watch the video Meat's the best 😅😅

[@GreekGoat_Coffee]

Here, here have a Prime.

[@azraelsasaki4929]

“Coffee’s probably gonna milk this, that’s what I would do” Just admitted that he’d be a scumbag

[@sakaraist]

Coffee went out of his way to make logan out to not be malicious and sound bad. Imagine how logan would have felt if coffee really said what everyone was thinking about logan lmao.

[@lightningbolt4419]

Lol wrong 😅

[@cedricleeakadominic]

Idk which video/s you watched man but when I watched Coffee's 3-part series, he was quite clear with how he wanted us to see Logan for the kinda guy he truly is.

[@bionicbuddah]

Coffee did barely accuse Logan, you are absolutely correct.

[@ShinySephiroth1]

You're not taking into account the titles of Coffee's vids, which all point the figure directly at Logan

[@matthewserrao2926]

@@ShinySephiroth1 last I checked it was his project & his idea to create it no? Seems reasonable to me.

[@brettlogandoster]

It's insane that Logan truly thinks he's innocent just because he got backdoored by Jake and Eddie. It's like the whole plan from the group chat just disappeared from his brain because it didn't work out in his favor.

[@TeamBOBBYEE]

They crimed me before I could crime , im the victim !

[@meisterl0]

That's the sad path he had to take in, he could have been honest.

[@wavves9095]

Exactly

[@chrisblake4198]

I've been making this exact point. Doesn't matter that Logan didn't sell, there's hard proof that he was going to if he hadn't gotten punked by his partners.

[@markmccall752]

He doesn't think he is innocent he is trying to convince all of us he is. And he is doing a bang up job 😂

[@silver9062]

One crucial part of any scam succeeding is that you need people to forget about it and get it out of the limelight. Coffee put it back into the limelight & Logan is pissed because he might actually be held accountable.

[@steezemilkshake]

logan got cut out of the scam, he never made money his employees stole the code sold it all and took off haha rekt

[@DefineLoveAndYouDefineLife]

@BenWatchinClipz you don’t have to like your own comment for validation, it’s ok kiddo :)

[@hiddenvlogs7973]

"Fabricating dangerous misleading falsehoods" *proceeds to say that if they didnt make money it wasnt a scam*

[@bennyblunto973]

Logan - “coffee doesn’t check backgrounds” Also Logan - **hires entire criminal enterprise*”

[@Mwstmrlnd]

Also, Logan argues it was defamation when he himself potentially made defamatory statements about Coffeezilla and other people in the video. This is the part nobody is noticing and might be the real reason the video got taken down. That police story Logan referenced is completely false according to Coffee, who says he never worked with police. So where did this information come from? Who are those quotes from? When did that happen? He says the guy Emilio that Coffee interviewed is a crypto scammer himself. Where's the proof that those screenshots are from the same Emilio? We need more info. His statements about Zach Kelling are also very problematic. He accuses Zach of lying about the number of engineers working for him and his operating costs. Of all the people he tears down in the response, Zach Kelling actually seems like a normal dude and doesn't really have any red flags for anything recently. He's just a developer in the NFT space who's done mostly normal things for the last 18 years, but Logan has grouped him in with all these scammers and I'd be pissed if I was Zach. Apparently his lawyers are going to be contacting Logan about this so he really shot himself in the foot. This response video was the dumbest thing Logan could have possibly done.

[@tzu4285]

@@Mwstmrlnd yeah ure right , zach was in zoo labs way before cryptozoo scam , so im guessing that zoo labs is normal project indeed

[@ibreathealot]

Good point!!!

[@namelessking111]

Bro hired the entire league of villains

[@Morindor]

The logic that he didn't try to scam is just beyond mental gymnastics, it's like saying "I was on my way with the boys to rob a bank, while inside 2 of them robbed the bank but in the meantime I realised there are cameras and my face can be seen so I just ran out without stealing, therefore I'm innocent"

[@blueguy6539]

More like they were on the way to rob the bank but stopped to rob a different bank while Logan was taking a piss before robbing it too

[@NovaMaster375]

@@blueguy6539 "Officer, I can't be guilty of robbery; I was taking a piss the whole time!"

[@aj3706]

"Me and my boys went out to rob a bank, then they betrayed me and took all the money we robbed. I earned nothing and therefore did nothing wrong!"

[@KasaJiso]

@@aj3706 Me and my friends robbed a bank but a hot girl came so I hit on her, therefore I did nothing wrong.

[@AdjustableSquelch]

More like they got to the vault first and after they filled their swag bags there was nothing left for him. Bah. Go and cry those tears into some tins of prime and sell them, sure some crazies will pay heavily for that.

[@chrismcmeekin8470]

He sent himself a sappy "fan letter" that describes a myriad of reasons why he's a good person and adds value to the world, in a way that no actual sentient person would ever write or speak. When you're making moves straight out of DSP's playbook you know you're royally f'ed.

[@cfilorvyls457]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's a real fan letter tbh. You need to be a special kind of stupid to even follow logan paul in the first place.

[@mediumeffort3315]

Logan wrote himself an "and then everyone clapped" Tumblr post and read it to the world....

[@Kruzeda]

I gotta ask, who is DSP?

[@Snoopandmartha]

​@@KruzedaDarksydephil

[@slick3996]

@@Kruzeda most hard working man in america

[@ImNotWorriedBro]

14:30-15:30 The best description of how Mike acts. 👀

[@ricktronimusprime7171]

😂😂😂

[@KayFiOS]

Best part of this video 😂

[@EvEnMoR]

When he read that letter(that Jeff probably wrote based on the handwriting)and started crying, it felt like if another channel did a parody of what Logan's response to Coffeezilla would be... That's how absurdly bad it was....Such a prime example of how out of touch and delusional these "influencers" can be.

[@ugly_.steez_5720]

Hahaha ‘PRIME’ example

[@thegoodone4104]

What the hell is a influencer anymore, who in the right mind would want to follow these types of people unless you have the mind of a 14 year old boy

[@kyberion]

@@ugly_.steez_5720same thought😂

[@farenhaight4133]

You should watch MeatCanyon's latest video about Logan. Bound to have a laugh.

[@hafirenggayuda]

This remind me of that AH reacting to her "fan letter". Do these two have same PR or something? Edit: I honestly thought Logan was parodying that

[@amberpasta9379]

Logan:”he vilified me” Also Logan:”he twisted and manipulated the situation”

[@spydorz2084]

Also Logan: films dead body.

[@SpoonsHD]

Also Logan: I learned things in the Coffeezilla docs that I didn’t even know 😂

[@krusher181]

@@spydorz2084 don’t forget the laughing for a full minute after realizing it’s a human being.

[@Kiddingyoumust]

I dont see how those two statements are contradictory. Logan : "he vilified me by twisting and manipulating the situation” -- Sounds properly logical to me

[@alexhalbleib2398]

I'm confused, how are those contradictory?

[@kiavalo]

Originally, when the coffeezilla video was initially released I was like "dang, logan paul is a stupid person but at least he's not an awful person like the 3 people he hired. He's not bad for hiring those 3 people. He's stupid, but not bad." The more and more I hear him talk, the more I hear him lying, coming up with excuses, and denying pure facts, the more I think he's a bad person, and the more I believe he actually was doing everything with purely sinister intent. Edit: for context, I was 13 during the forest situation. I knew it happened, but didn’t pay attention to it or any context regarding it due to my age. I keep getting criticism for not originally assuming he was sinister due to his previous behaviors, however that’s the reason. Don’t know why it even matters considering I referred to him as sinister in this comment regardless , but that’s why I said I originally just thought he was stupid lmao

[@nebnik2015]

nah he's always been this way he hasn't changed and he ain't gonna

[@kiavalo]

@@nebnik2015 Honestly I’ve never paid any attention to him whatsoever prior to this. This is the first thing I’ve seen on him (I think he did the forest thing but I never watched anything on it back then) Always just assumed he was the typical airheaded, brainless f boy who managed to somehow get popular without a personality, but I guess he’s a lot more sinister than what I thought of him prior to paying attention

[@carcinogeneticist378]

@@kiavaloNah, he’s always been like this.

[@hokageofmemes]

Nah he’s a bad person. He planned from the get go to scam his followers

[@Crimson_Knight004]

@@kiavalo Without paying attention to him, it’s definitely easy to miss. I never paid much attention to him either, except when the whole “filming a dead body” incident happened. That put him on the map as being legitimately reprehensible, and since then he hasn’t had much controversy and built his image back to being annoying but ultimately harmless and had the persona of someone who learned from his past mistakes and grew as a person. This incident has shown that it may just be that he’s learned how to *hide* his questionable behaviors, which honestly makes him more sinister.

[@gibranregiste-charles3847]

Penguinz0 I've just discovered you and I backtracked on your videos and they are brilliant. You are fair minded and eveidence based. I find myself watching your videos to get the conclusion on most scandalous affairs, and you create thought and a deeper thinking on subjects . Well done.

[@okyggtty]

leave Logan alone 😡 .

[@uvy.494]

@@okyggtty he's a scammer and not a very good one

[@gabrielalvarado2693]

@@okyggttyLogan couldn’t even pull off his own scam 💀

[@Jarr0n]

My favorite phrase a person explained the situation with is: It’s like failing to rob a bank and saying you shouldn’t be blamed because the vault was empty.

[@Kaminkaese]

And its okay because the Bank takes money from others too 🤣

[@DanBorens]

Yeah, Hasan said something similar

[@benphish]

Guys I may have planned out a bank robbery with my bank robber fans. We may have even robbed the bank, but I'm not at fault here because the other bank robbers robbed me afterwards.

[@jasggzero7834]

@@Kaminkaese LOOOOL

[@undefined_galactic_hiatus]

Where did we ever go wrong with accountability as a society?! I feel like we keep taking the wrong timeline and somebody is intentionally missing QuickTime events.

[@shuriken2505]

jesus these bots lol

[@Y3ntiLS0uP]

@@shuriken2505 that last one took a dark fucking turn. Who the fuck is programming these?

[@bobhanson1037]

You believe the system was just. It never was

[@thesayerofthelaw]

@@Y3ntiLS0uP people that are wastes of life.

[@farhaanali5311]

Capitalism, if you can buy your way out of the law then the law is only for the less wealthy, it has almost always been like this. These guys get around it because they have influence and wealth.

[@matthewb377]

Lawyer here. Coffee could file a defamation claim against Logan for his statement regarding law enforcement. Also, if Logan filed a claim against Coffee, he would have first amendment protection. Because Logan is a public figure, he generally would have to shown Coffee acted with actual malice when publishing a false statement.

[@wyqydsyq]

And that's the funniest part, as shown by his now 2 video responses, Logan is unable to provide any evidence Coffeezilla's statements are untrue / could constitute defamation. I really hope he goes forward with trying to sue, so he gets stuck paying his own and Coffeezilla's legal fees when the case gets laughed out of court.

[@lacey892]

Malice has to be proven either way, but since Logan is a public figure, he has even more burden of proof.

[@PSBrathwaite]

Lawyer here. What are the damages?

[@explicitreverberation9826]

Annnnnnd point of no malice will be made and logan will actually LOSE money attempting to corral such a charge.

[@Tkokat]

@@PSBrathwaite no lawyer here, but isn't Logan defaming CZ by saying that he couldn't assist the law enforcement? The damages would be to his image, wouldn't them? Honestly asking, I don't know how it works over there.

[@fedsavi]

Slight correction, defamation against a public figure requires “actual malice” which does not mean malicious intent, it means proving that the defendant was reckless in their research

[@quintonlange5323]

I love how George asked legitimately how he is gonna help the people lost all that money. And he just talks about getting the game to work.

[@RedsBigRig]

I couldn’t believe that shit but was impressed George asked that..unless it was already glossed over before they started and they thought (for some reason) that was going to be a good idea l

[@Emma-ei2zk]

@@RedsBigRig george actually tried to make a couple of good points but kept getting interrupted, at one point he was in the middle of saying "you guys need to stop pointing fingers and blaming everyone else" and they literally cut the video to them talking about a completely different subject

[@theprophet9428]

As if making the game work will revive any trust in the project

[@jamesc3953]

George should leave that group. He's too good for them

[@killerunknown6306]

The level of mental gymnastics Logan is displaying is truly amazing. If there were an Olympic for one, he could win gold medals effortlessly every time.

[@airas2528]

agreed

[@foam3132]

Wrd

[@KasaJiso]

Not even effortlessly. “perfectionaly” is more like the needed word.

[@RCRDC_handlesarepoopoo]

Cryptobros aren't known for their smarts after all.

[@Badz00]

I think he'd win the Para Olympic section of this area, he mentally handicapped 😭

[@throwhemon]

Funny thing is, Coffee could counter sue for deformation with Logan's first response video purposefully going after his character including the fact that he made up stories about Coffee's past.

[@XxzaidosxX]

Problem is he would have to prove measurable damages. If no measurable damages are directly caused it likely isn't going to go any further for Coffee than it would Logan. On a place like youtube that's very hard to prove outside of maybe causing a loss of sponsorships if you can even get said sponsors to testify. Malice and proving that someone knew something was a lie at the time of making the statements is also hard to do without testimony from others. It'd more than likely just be a waste of time and money to counter sue with how hard defamation suits are to win

[@iveneyas6535]

he definitely could sue for DEFORMation especially for that deformed picture of coffee on logan's thumbnail 😂

[@diplogg6782]

Still an unwinnable case. Both situations would be a waste of money to pursue tbh. Logan's just rich as shit and doesn't care about wasting money on a legal team.

[@BayAreaHoops415]

@@XxzaidosxXBut isn’t Logan a public figure so his words are measured differently than normal people? Like just him speaking to that big of audience can be enough right or no?

[@WarGhoulKharas]

Defamation. Deformation would be if he took action that left Zilla deformed. Get a dictionary.

[@wendynerd1199]

I am starting to think that the only reason Logan hires anyone is to use them as a scapegoat. Hence why Jeff is still employed.

[@mr.niddles]

If I had a nickel for everytime Logan Paul made a baffling decision around New years, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[@Bluebugzzz]

😂

[@patrickgroening5664]

This comment is underrated idk why this made me laugh out loud😂

[@yano0734]

Crazy it happened 5 years ago

[@sofiapatrao2796]

This comment wins 🤣🤣

[@sixstringedthing]

Doof Approved Cringe ™

[@Renamawn]

Not only do they get a picture with him. They get an invite to a special discord where Logan personally messaged them 3 times. A true saint to his people.

[@hp9351]

The managing: *yooooooooo*

[@eudaemoniiax]

context ??

[@rageagaintstheNWO]

Two times? Second time he said something like: Im sober?

[@Renamawn]

@Orban Attila first time was "yoooo" 2nd was "I'm sober fml" and 3rd was a couple days ago after coffee called him out

[@Renamawn]

@Emma he uses the fact that he takes pictures with fans makes him such a great guy. I wouldn't put it past him to say his discord where he "talks to his supporters" is also a virtuous quality that shows he gives back to his people... but I'm reality is just 3 messages that mean nothing to anyone.

[@williamkirkland2222]

the technical term is SLAPP suit. -strategic lawsuit against public participation

[@PCTTmusic]

What makes this even more sad is Logan has a lawyer and a PR specialist writing most of this for him.

[@alliezah]

Shh, they're working for us.

[@Cheesepuff8]

I feel like him and everyone in his circle, are just trying to BS their way into as much money as they can

[@spottedslash4256]

I guess, you get what you pay for....

[@huntern4454]

@@Cheesepuff8 it’s like they truly left him out too 😂

[@AnnaVictrix]

I think it's pretty obvious by now that Logan surrounds himself professionally with people who just do what he wants.

[@nothingpersonal1000]

"The definition of scam is..." anytime someone starts their defense with a definition, you know you're about to hear the weakest defense of all time

[@operandexpanse]

I bet Logan couldn’t even pay proper attention to Coffee’s videos because his emotional reaction was so huge. He’s responding to things that he felt instead of things that he heard.

[@newerest1]

Oh wow this is so true

[@drdre4397]

Logan is a narcissist and possibly a psychopath. He only cares about himself, and his behavior is consistent with that. It honestly seems he's incapable of empathy and care for others. His interactions with his brother are the strangest things I've seen, it's so unnatural

[@blicleak1101]

He’s responding to things where there is ANY way he can use spin and lies to manipulate the listener. He knows very well what he’s doing. It’s SO CLASSIC and it always happens when such scumbags are caught. He would happily respond to actual evidence, but there’s NOTHING he can say.

[@nedcurfman3486]

“So what are we, some kind of.. CryptoZoo?” - Will “The Slapper” Smith

[@DarkPhysicx]

The whole "It's my team and project, but it's not my fault, they're the criminals" reminds me of the great quote by Hopper in A Bug's Life "First rule of leadership, Everything is your fault!”

[@Tyr431]

Blame rolls uphill

[@00Grimreaper00]

Logan did more research on his own team and himself then coffee.

[@jamesmason7979]

As I've said before: if Logan takes this to trial, he opens himself up to discovery. Imagine what Coffeezilla and his legal team could do with documents Logan would have to turn over.

[@luckylukas2282]

He's not that stupid. He has people that have already cleared Logan to go to trial and any discovery that happens won't get Logan in legal trouble. Hiring criminals is not illegal. Logan, if he does it, just would want to drain CoffeeZilla of his resources and borderline bankrupt him until Coffee backs out.

[@garrettcooper58]

It would be hilarious if Logan hired amber heard’s team

[@zogar8526]

This is coffee's best chance. That Logan realizes this and stops it before going there. Obviously Logan doesn't have a case. But he can still drag coffee through legal proceedings for a while costing him a ton of money. And that is exactly what Logan wants. He can't win, but there is just enough to look almost real that it will take a fairly long while to get dismissed. And coffee could probably get everything back with a counter suit. But that takes even longer and will cost him more. Money he may not be able to afford to be out until he gets it back. So hopefully Logan realizes discovery will prove his scam to everyone and stops before that. But at the same time, his fans are a blind and stupid as take's or Donald trump's. And no matter how irrefutably Logan's wrong doing is proven, they won't care. And he could just accept that and push on. We will see.

[@Solis.shck574]

I genuinely hope coffee counter Sue's the absolute fuck out of Logan for all legal proceedings and then some.

[@globalist1990]

How can the guy sit like that in the interview. Like he's talking common sense and everyone would obviously support him. Omg he's a freaking lizard. Logan is a creep.

[@alexanderbruwer9363]

I hope Logan goes through with the lawsuit. Either it's going to get thrown out or Logan might get wrecked by either the California or Texas anti-slapp laws. Logan is such a narcissist and it might work for him for everything else but here it's gonna bite him in the rear

[@Temulon]

I don't understand why he was even involved in crypto currency. I can understand wanting to make money but didn't he make good money on his fights? How much do you need?

[@lolgalit]

@@Temulon The more the better - this is how it goes. And he needs more money because he want to live the live he is living now.

[@Honaro2nd]

@@Temulon It's the entitlement. Dude was raised shit and just craves more and more to fill the void in his soul.

[@gabe22400]

Most SLAPP suits take place in West Virginia as it has the weakest protection for the defendant. As long as the media can be accessed in that State (like most websites and television), neither the plaintiff or defendant needs to live in that state or do business there for the plaintiff to sue.

[@ModernEphemera]

If he sued Coffee part of the process, discovery, would involve getting all of Logan’s texts and e-mails to see if Coffee was truly lying or not. I don’t think he wants that

[@beensandchees]

Hell is being a lawyer for an internet celebrity

[@wlockuz4467]

This is the equivalent of that judge Judy case where the guy is defending against stealing a woman's purse but then goes "there were no ear phones, your honor"

[@Zanian19]

For those who might be wondering, the like to dislike ratio on that video is 31k/168k. Logan's own recent videos have similar ratios. Add in the fact that all the top comments (not including his own 2 most recent, since he's disabled comments, the coward) are vehemently against him, Coffee's report really did a number on his image, haha.

[@JB-423]

Nah, coffee didn't do that. The actions of Logan and a few others did that shit. I hope Prime drops that douche. Either that or that consumers realize that it's not comparable to Gatorade. It's just a potassium rich, artificial sweetened scam. Other than potassium, it doesn't have many electrolytes

[@cavanmorber3238]

The podcast or his response video?

[@cristobalbarra583]

And most of his other videos got heavily disliked, and there's a few of good comments in his podcast

[@tiaramcdonald5930]

Pretty sure half the world hated on Logan before Coffee’s series. 👍🏻

[@rjg1847]

Just like the suicide forest video people will forget then Logan will be popular again

[@attache675]

I’m high key happy for Coffee though. Getting everybody to call out the truth in overwhelming fashion, from smaller KZbinrs to bigger ones like Charlie, Kavos, Muta, Optimus, etc.

[@nagashtheundyingking4404]

Honestly if anything i just hoped this throws coffee names out there even more so he gets even more views out of it.

[@MattyBudzzz]

@nagashtheundyingking4404 it worked. Like, before this I just watched Charlie react to coffees content. When Charlie didn't upload reacts for this 3 part thing, but he made a video talking about coffee making the doc, I immediately went to coffee channel watched all 3 parts then subbed. Lol

[@krusher181]

Surprised Kavos is still around actually

[@averyplaysthegame]

1 year later and this is somehow super relevant again.

[@dshocc1376]

All I know from all this is: Coffee's response video is about to be one of the hardest-hitting banger of a response videos ever recording. Logan's pitching him a fastball right down the middle right now.

[@kerstas10]

Why would he be doing it. Nothing to talk about. By that time it would be repeating everything again...

[@joywolf83]

what is there to respond to? none of the "points" Logan made made the scam disappear. So what the call was recorded? So what if one of the people ran scams before? So what if the police didn't like Coffee? All those things have zero bearing on Logan taking part in a scam

[@boothead9495]

For the first time I’ve turned KZbin notifications on waiting for Coffee’s response

[@NewMateo]

Logan Paul deleted his video lol

[@Fractal_blip]

@@NewMateo lmao

[@kaidenfernandez132]

“When all argument is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”-Socrates

[@samfire3067]

- Sócrates troll Mage level 60

[@KeshavTrigun]

Logan deleted his original video because it wasn’t received how he thought it would be. Glad you reviewed it & posted here before he deleted his horrible response

[@sperd8998]

Thats the great thing about charlie. Hes always on top of all of the internet drama. He pushes put a video only hours after someone makes a mess

[@urzo]

Where's his ukelele?

[@MiraakUnofficial]

Or his dog

[@prodbylukee]

I find it pretty funny how both of Logans major controversies transpired at the start of the year. It's been exactly 5 years since that Japan incident lmfao.

[@Originalbasedgod]

LMAO

[@Spacecowboyy69]

@@Originalbasedgod feels like it was a lot longer ago

[@Originalbasedgod]

@@Spacecowboyy69 I know that’s what I was thinking lmao

[@JSauer21]

In exactly 5 more years when we all forgot about him we'll here some crazy Florida Man style story about Logan

[@Fimpurities]

@@JSauer21 he’s the next Ezra Miller

[@keithtestaverde3712]

It's incredible how little responsibility people will avoid taking

[@68m8rz]

uhh personally he answered almost all of my concerns with logan's involvement with cryptozoo, but almost everyone's against him so i genuinely want someone to explain to me where logan's still morally at fault in any significant way (not some attack, can someone enlighten me please)

[@benmaguire9720]

My man didn’t background check his business partners, pseudo subcontractors, devs etc and coffee has him on record discussing with said business partners how best to rip off those fans trusting enough to buy into his little scheme. Oh and ps, all of those who he didn’t background check turned out to be scumbags. I mean there can only be so many bad actors until you start questioning the director too lol

[@dranktf]

@@68m8rz coffeezilla did a year long investigation with an abundance of evidence against Logan Paul’s crypto scam. Logan then responds to it by trying to attack coffeezillas character using baseless accusations, then proceeds to sue coffee because of defamation? Explain to me where in any of this Logan actually addressed any of the claims and clears anything up. Logan has shown time and time again that he is unable to take any responsibility for anything and attacks everyone else in retaliation.

[@Average-Individual]

@@benmaguire9720 Not to mention Logan is actively trying to demonize Coffeezilla's image when legitimate claims are made against the product Logan's pushing. It's very ironic that Logan is trying to sue Coffeezilla for defamation when Logan is actively attempting to ruin Coffeezilla's career and status amongst the community because he feels threatened by the weight of his own culpability in the creation this scam.

[@spoonkitchenware]

@@68m8rz He's refusing to admit it's a scam, he hasn't addressed whether or not he paid the developers, he's attacking coffee's character and painting him as an asshole, all whilst playing the victim in this situation, he's refusing to acknowledge that there were victims and has even blamed some of the victims, and he hired multiple criminals to help run the scam. On top of that, the art isn't handmade, he had no communication with his fans, he's going to wrongfully sue coffee over this, and both his responses to the scam allegations were handled in ways that would give him more clout (he hyped up both of his responses for about a week instead of actually responding). This isn't me taking a stab at you for not knowing, it's a very messy situation, so I can understand you not completely understanding.

[@lol12657]

How did he not background check his team members if he had "supposedly" invested 1 MILLION dollars of his own money. No one in their right mind would give 1 Million dollars to a group of random people. IN REALITY he knew that these people are expert scammers and that they would help him make a few million dollars. The problem started when these scammers started scamming themselves 😂 before conducting a full scale scam on the public. This is a PRIME example of "no honour among thieves".

[@terriplays1726]

100% accurate.

[@MaouTheKidd]

The prime throw in got me weak LMAOOOO

[@immortal3293]

Tbh I feel bad for Ksi the other part of Prime, from what I know he hassnt done any scams

[@SilverMystes1]

Hey before I say this firstly I agree that Logan fucked at and continues to do so by not taking accountability. However, this is a weak argument because even billionaires got scammed by that Eddiie guy. It just proves that Logan is an idiot yes, but not scammer. The biggest argument that proves he did scam is the fact that cryptozoo should be a pay to earn game but just turned out as a useless NFT art. And he just abandoned the "game" when everything turned to shit.

[@XIMTANYL]

@@immortal3293 Hopefully Logan somehow gets dropped by Prime so KSI doesn’t lose so much money

[@Loganhawes-q4r]

you cant say "hes milking THE PEOPLE I SCAMMED" then say there are no scammed people

[@Gatsu-gatsu]

If Logan Paul sues then Coffee can request so much information in discovery that LP wouldn’t want getting out. Texts, bank statements, call records. Getting sued would be a net win for Coffee IMO

[@ineedbreadloreman5757]

Is there any way logan could use his money to drain coffeezilla tho? Or would it be thrown out quicker. Sorry you seem to know what you are talking about.

[@Gatsu-gatsu]

It’s possible, but Coffeezilla has talked before about how he has liability insurance for situations just like this one. Logan Paul is probably just more interested in showing the pretence of being wronged to protect his image.

[@darkriku12]

@@ineedbreadloreman5757 he could probably raise a lot of money tbh, and that would even further damage Logan's reputation

[@CapucineNighly]

Hello discovery period~ If that rocks for brains Logan Paul tried to sue Coffee, everything will come to light.

[@StreakyBaconMan]

@@ineedbreadloreman5757 Texas has anti-slapp laws which basically means a judge can throw the case out before it goes to trial if there is no merit before anybody has to spend big on legal representation. Those laws exist specifically to stop someone or a company trying to use a meritless lawsuit to financially destroy a less wealthy person or company. Then there is the fact he has insurance against defamation claims - he kind of knows that going after scammers who have millions of dollars publicly might just try and sue him as revenge to drain his money. Plus there are so many big content creators on Coffeezillas side that if he DID require money to defend himself, they'd be more than happy to ask their viewers to contribute to his legal defence.

[@jukappa]

I’m enjoying how defamation is becoming more and more understood by the general public. Big shots are losing the ability to just strong arm everyone by threatening them with a defamation lawsuit.

[@lesslighter]

SLAAP goes both ways once it goes into discovery it will show how fucked up the evidence was then it will just put Logan in the legal limelight that the suit is uncalled for if he tries again then he will just be put into the trial circle of not being able to sue people for at least 2-5 years and worst he's pretty much black listed by the court

[@lilpenguin092]

SLAPP 'Em

[@darkriku12]

They still can unfortunately, they can just drag people through the court system and cost them a fortune in fees and legal representation

[@jukappa]

@@darkriku12 With common joes, yeah you’re probably still screwed. But I think this will give smaller guys with a platform the ability to gain a lot more traction and support from the public while also making the guys threatening frivolous legal action look like scum bags. At the very least it may deter some from even trying to go down this path, if only to save face.