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Aristotle, Prior Analytics
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Matthew J. Van Cleave, Introduction to Logic and Critical Thinking
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Patrick J. Hurley, A Concise Introduction to Logic
Sallust, The Catiline War
#logic #philosophy

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'Valid Sound' would be a great band name tbh

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Nina, Zoë, Nat Puff & Patricia Taxxon just jamming their souls out

[@iamalittleboat]

According to my theory of band names, a band name is only as good or bad as the music they produce

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When I create my band with said name, I *will* credit you

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@@atharvavadeyar5157 if this ever happens, please link to your site or channel, here

[@AslanW]

THANK YOU for everything you do.

[@sealogic4552]

“So we’re in a very interesting transition period”

[@minimooster7258]

Aged like a fine wine

[@emma_tm]

She definitely knew what she did there

[@Sofspot1]

"moving from one way of life to another" more than just the political commentary there imo

[@Frahamen]

@@Sofspot1 she was planning this a for a long time and she put Easter eggs everywhere.

[@charliegreen1737]

@@Frahamen Yeah, 'easter eggs' describe these pretty damn well. I congratulate her on them.

[@bolt_vanderhuge]

"You're just mad because you're angry" -Julius Caesar

[@kendomyers]

You mad brah? J. Caeser

[@heinzke8512]

"Mad cuz bad" -Julius Caesar

[@NemoK]

Now that's a perfect example of begging the question haha

[@breakatmo]

"Y'all tilted" - Julius Caesar

[@Snaperkid]

Nemo_K That’s not really begging the question, it’s just a tautology (saying something is what it is). That tool is a spade because it’s spade-shaped. I used the object to prove itself.

[@fluffskunk]

Got a "My Chemical Roman" style going on.

[@wittyblonde6728]

Tery Aki Love that and I wish I could do that as a Halloween costume... but I think it’s canceled :(

[@cinnamonbun2251]

Gerulius Waysar

Go to your room.

[@MacetazzOpina]

got a handsome shrek style going on

[@PowerOf47]

@@wittyblonde6728 that will not stop you from wearing a costume around the house and buying candy that you would actually eat I meant to say, "that doesn't stop you", but i like the forceful nature of it, so...

[@camelliascholl6564]

everyone's talking about the "transition period" line but nobody mentioning "moving from one way of life to a different one" right after it

[@sirius1696]

That's what hit me, right away lol

[@timothymclean]

Which is weird, because to me the second stands out a _lot_ more.

[@kenfryer2090]

Yeah I'm glad I'm not mentally ill

[@strangejune]

I haven't been here long, seeing the old videos is pretty interesting with the power of knowing the future. The first line didn't stick out to me but the second one immediately caught my attention. The first line on its own isn't very remarkable, but the second line lingering on it is a very clever call-out looking back. I really like that wordplay.

[@akgfilming]

i mean she was out to her family and friends at this point, right? so it was probably intentional

[@anfisachern8570]

rational brain: wow, this is one of the most important topics one can possibly learn irrational brain: abi pretty

[@M-CH_]

gaydar: eyebrows

[@Valentina-rj7pf]

Im glad Im not the only one

[@SuperIcelight]

Olly so pretty The HAIR and the slight shadow of a beard and the FUCKING eyebrows I am too gay for this video and also the world

[@ramonaof12thdimension13]

Olly is so pretty in this episode

[@eggboy6926]

Olly do be preddy

[@elmocuppicake]

“Short and sweet” I mean, I did just watch a two and a half hour analysis on an anime I’ve never seen, so comparatively, yeah totally

[@demagus]

Yes but did you stop in the middle of it to watch the awesome trailers for the anime you've never seen?

[@ellipszilonq]

Do send us the link tho

[@valosonthor]

@@ellipszilonq Pretty sure he's talking about hbomberguy's video on RWBY.

[@vitormelomedeiros]

LMFAOOO

[@Call-me-Al]

@@valosonthor I should watch that. The design of it has always been off-putting to me so to find out whether the story is worth putting up with the weird style, is good.

[@camlongfellow]

Can we just take a minute to appreciate again the effort Abi put in to meticulously adapt Ceasar's speech into a modern style?

[@renekumar8290]

Ik it's sooo gud she needs to make another one cos now I just wanna read the original text but Im afraid that I might not understand it

[@camlongfellow]

@@renekumar8290 I wanted to check it out too, and honestly this video made it so much easier to understand!

[@BasileosHerodou]

Very nice that you edited your old comment!

[@erick1369]

It was amazing!!

[@josephlaski9480]

An amazing read

[@joshinthewoods]

"So we're in a very interesting transition period..." 01:23 Nice one, Abby.

[@barmatal]

Love that smirk

[@ink7761]

Spotted a couple of easter eggs. She does an Amy Coney Barret voice that's pretty much just her normal voice

[@morgangrider7676]

Therapist: Emo Julius Caesar isnt real and can't hurt you Emo Julius Caesar:

[@nunomcb140799]

Julio Caesar's about to sing Bright Eyes' greatest hits

[@squiggles6861]

julius caesar about to make a blink 182 cover band

[@trashcan_leftist7483]

@@squiggles6861 Brhh c'mon‽ ... DO BETTER.

[@spoonmeanie5644]

Julius Caesar about to cry himself asleep while listening to Sunny Day Real Estate.

[@kuraddohikari]

"facts don't care about your feelings" - julius caesar

[@Deantrey]

And the man later went on to overthrow the republic and turn Rome into a dictatorship. Yup, it check out.

[@sparklymage]

@@Deantrey Yes and no. When people say that they make it sound like he ended the rightful rule of the Senate and turned it into a dictatorship, but the Senators had already become corrupt and oligarchical. The murder of the Gracchi brothers by the Senate was the beginning of the end which happened 150 years before Caesar. Not that this necessarily justifies Caesar, but the Senate put him in a position where no one could win. They massively underestimated his popularity with the troops and the people to their ruin.

[@Deantrey]

@@sparklymage (whispers) issa joke But since we're talking serious now. Caesar didn't overthrow the senate because they were corrupt, but because he was on a mission to attain power and his political enemies put him in a position where the only way he could continue to do that and to not lose everything he worked for was to take the action he took. The republic could have continued as it was without Caesar taking the action he did. And Caesar could have restored and even improved on the republican system once he had taken power. Of course as I said his whole thing was trying to gain power and retain it too, so by the very logic of his life that option must have been unthinkable and he could hardly be expected to take it. This however does not absolve him of responsibility. If his goal was to be a good public servant and to ensure the health of the Republic, as he presents himself to be in the speech we heard in this video, then likely he would have made different actions and history would have turned out differently. But his own internal values, which yes were drawn from the political climate of his day, privileged the attainment of power over public service (again, contrary to the way he presents himself in this speech). So sure, Caesar was not alone in this and in this sense we might say that the Roman republic was as corrupt as he was. But to paint him as a good politician who overthrew a corrupted senate is as historically inaccurate as painting him as a corrupt politician who overthrew a good senate.

[@sparklymage]

@@Deantrey I didn't describe him as a good politician who overthrew a corrupt Senate, though? For one thing, the Senate didn't stop existing when Caesar took over. For another, by all accounts Caesar was actually much better to the average person than the Senate was, so I'm not sure what comparison we are making here. I'm more pointing out that the comparisons people make of Caesar with more modern situations don't really make sense. And there is no possible way Caesar could have restored or improved on the republican system. The system was alive in name only by the time of Caesar. They were so divorced from the average person and so high on their own self-importance that it would be impossible to change without removing all of them. This idea that the republic was somehow fundamentally ruined when Caesar made the obvious more explicit is nonsense. For the average Roman there was no fundamental difference between the Senate years and the Caesar years, except that Caesar was more generous with his wealth than the average Senator was.

[@cheer90099]

@@sparklymage cool motive, still overthrowing the senate

[@allisondoak9425]

This was the one thing in my philosophy degree where I was like why the fuck weren’t we learning this when I was 8? Deconstructing and understandings arguments and rearranging them charitably is an essential skill.

[@fireking6308]

Same with Graham's hierarchy of disagreement.

[@cameronhector9074]

To understand that, we have to apply a bit of inductive logic, phrased as questions: - Who benefits from a population unable to pull apart their speeches, campaigns, promises and bullshit? Among other people, politicians. - When or where might a population best learn the skills of logic and rhetoric? At school, primarily state schools. - Who is in charge of setting the curricula for schools? The politicians. Supposedly from the advice of experts, but this is routinely shown to be ignored. Having people dictate a system over which they stand to reap advantage from guidance detrimental to the majority is... well, corruption of vested power, but it happens all the time.

[@rabidbeaver167]

Because the right and religious dont want public education.

[@LetztezBatallion]

@@cameronhector9074 That's a nice thought, but the reality is simply that at such an early age logic is not something you can learn properly. In 3rd grade (8 y/o) children are doing basic math, adding, multiplying, and are starting to learn fractions. They JUST grasped the concept of an abstract number, no longer needing math problems to be explained using objects like "If you had 10 apples...". Their brains are not there just yet for such a thing. To you right now it may seem incredibly easy but remember you had to learn all this in the past, and it was pretty darn hard. Same thing applies to logic. After searching through documentation from multiple organizations it seems everyone agrees that around 13 Y/O is when you can start understanding formal logic and apply it properly. Coincidentally, this is the age at which physics and more advanced maths appear in schools (at the very least in my country). At this point it becomes a problem of "where do I put this thing". Physics and mathematics at this level do not use validity/soundness/cogency in any way, shape or form and without that you cannot begin to deconstruct an argument. History, geography and many such subjects do not use formal logic anywhere. You would have to create a new subject specifically to teach logic and everything about it, but you'd have to eliminate another subject, or dedicate even less time to each than they have now. And which one would you eliminate? From the top of my head I can't think of one subject that does not serve any purpose for a child/teenager.

[@MegaChickenfish]

@@LetztezBatallion counterpoint, as early as blues clues the notion of gathering evidence to come to a conclusion was demonstrably teachable to children. Gotta lay the foundation first.

[@literaturmurks]

Did she just memorise the whole Caesar speech and deliver it in one take? Like, damn! Brilliant!

[@marinakesawa7470]

She's an actor, so that's just a Tuesday.

[@foxfriends8072]

Wait, oh! I thought this was an entirely different person! Not her pre-transition lol

[@hauthot287]

@@foxfriends8072yeah, I was under the assumption this was her brother /j

[@FirsToStrike]

That apology to the Italians with the Hungarian flag and map of Portugal really Meatballed my spaghetti.

[@fynnsternis6432]

MEATBALLED MY SPAGEHTTI I CAN'T I was already wondering if I've suddenly forgotten what Italy looks like xDD That went whoosh

[@fh404]

*insert cheap joke about how that one probably whoosh'd by most americans here*

[@jeremystars2100]

@@fh404 Why Americans?

[@hannahseling1513]

@@jeremystars2100 Dunno. Maybe because of videos like can you name a country from Jimmy Kimmel. But take that with a grain of salt

[@penname8441]

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[@TheAstip]

"You will now immediately forget all of this" ..I feel called out

[@FluorescenttheGirl]

Me too. Oof.

[@aknopf8173]

Forget what? Oh, right! Forget that James Bond was Italian!

[@emlillthings7914]

I've just hit replay because of that line, realizing I forgot the epic speech by Adolf Bondini this vid was analingsing

[@eoin8450]

I forgot while it was on, I tuned in and out during the speech

[@TheSchmuck2]

It's just the curse of KZbin video essays

[@DDendrite2]

From the stylistic choices of BBC news down to something as small as a slight delay in the audio during Julius' speech, the attention to detail in these videos is astonishing.

[@FlameQwert]

"might suggest something about their relationship" Silanus was married to Servilia, who was Brutus'(yes that one) mother and Caesar's mistress and Cato(the one who pushed through the vote to execute the conspirators, in this example)'s half-sister (though at this time, Caesar was only just starting his political career) So yeah, a lot going on between Caesar and Decimus Silanus

[@randomalienfrommars0567]

Oh wow Spill the TEA 👁👄👁

[@quilespiritu]

Wait. CEASAR FCKED BRUTUS' MOM?!

[@nicolasbroaddus8819]

@@quilespiritu yeah and the two were close, since Caesar actually had a romantic attachment to his mother, Brutus’ whole history with Caesar and Pompey is nuts tea

[@davitdavid7165]

@@nicolasbroaddus8819 so brutus basicly got revenge for his mom

[@nicolasbroaddus8819]

@@davitdavid7165 No, actually, the two men were quite friendly, since his mother and Caesar seemed to have a legitimate affection. Caesar had tapped Brutus to be a Consul within just a few years. Worth noting that Brutus' mom was twice widowed, and people generally accepted such women having lovers after childbearing age/widowhood

[@RainasRoom]

"Non occides... these dudes..." -Julius Caesar, probably

[@marekwygnany924]

Nice number of likes.

[@danielburns3240]

best part is it should be "Nolite Occidere these dudes"

[@begrackled]

@@danielburns3240 haec dudos? Was not my forte in high school.

[@a-onurmi8286]

"Nôlite occidere haec viris" probably

[@danielburns3240]

@@begrackled Dudes (3rd declension) sounds better to me but that's just preference

[@siriuskepler113]

This man recited an 11 minute long Julius Caesar speech in a single take, no cuts.

[@lilimia100]

Theater.... It changes people

[@stephaniel2850]

And that isn't even a challenge for him- the entire 30 minute Men. Abuse. Trauma. video is one take also :) That theatre training, man, it's *legit* ! No for real though, gimme all the hours of Olly being the bomb actor he is and performing awesome monologues

[@siriuskepler113]

@@stephaniel2850 whaaatttt. I'm gonna check it out!

[@jakefoster5611]

Try doing a whole 3 hour play that way. Used to do it all the time. Looking back, though, I don't really know how I did it. Can't even remember my driver's license number half the time now ha.

[@amesnfire1098]

@@_dr_ake I expect a video from you of a single take that is 30 minutes long by the end of the month. You know, since it's so easy.

[@jiffylou98]

Caesar: killing romans is wrong Also Caesar: *causes largest civil war in centuries*

[@juliapardieutroyer9993]

Right?! I kept thinking - wow, maybe he was arguing against his inner demons. Then the Senate gave him the green light saying, nah resisting urges is futile...and so his inner battle was lost, or won 🤣

[@jiffylou98]

@@juliapardieutroyer9993 aint no caesar need no green light from no senate

[@HiopX]

Caesar: Killing Romans, *because they killed Romans* is wrong

[@DeathnoteBB]

They set the precedent for him

[@ZephLodwick]

The senate started it. They declared him a public enemy.

[@janjaki2741]

Abi is one hell of an actress

[@enriktigasna]

Yeah, and she was already a woman back then iirc so she had to act as a man acting as a ghost. Props to her

[@ulti-mantis]

"Roman slaves "happiest in the world" say slave-owners" LOL

[@adolfodef]

It actually makes sense in context -> The slaves would not be able to "say" anything that would be then put as a public announcement [there were laws specifically made to prevent this anarchical use of "free speech" by the non-free]. -> If they did it anyways, both the owner of the slave AND whoever was reponsable of comunicating this announcement would be fined & humiliated.

[@mrclueuin]

That Text Crawl is a Mood for me.😏

[@timothymclean]

@@adolfodef Also, polling people barely related (or actively opposed) to the topic at hand is still a pretty common tactic for getting misleading statistics. In contemporary news, getting your data about trans kids' happiness by polling _parents_ of trans kids _from anti-trans web communities._

[@KaiHenningsen]

I've actually recently heard people (using that term loosely here) make the argument that blacks were happier when they were slaves ...

[@adolfodef]

@@KaiHenningsen We were happier when we were babies (not so dissimilar to pets/slaves when you analize it). -> Great Power & Freedom comes with Great Responsability & Duty.

[@TreacleMary]

"Study shows university classics education mainly used for writing esoteric background jokes" Money well spent.

[@Trashley652]

All trans people are valid, and I am a trans person, therefore, by deductive reasoning, I am valid.

[@harshadasamant6211]

@Caedmon Kline seems like Me Olliver did not manage to teach me something. Thanks for the clarification ❤️

[@Srewotgames]

@@harshadasamant6907 no you’re right, it is a circular argument. The assumption that “all trans people are valid” is already assuming the conclusion that this particular person is trans and valid. The argument can’t be refuted with the way the premise has been set.

[@Srewotgames]

Also if by “valid” they mean that they are a gender that doesn’t line up with their biological sex, then no they aren’t valid.

[@harshadasamant6211]

@@Srewotgames no, the first premise only informs all trans people are valid. It's the second premise that gives information about OP being valid. It's like a=b, b=c, therefore c=a. That's not circular, right? However, your next comment suggests that you might be transphobic so idk if you'd agree to logic.

[@Srewotgames]

@@harshadasamant6211 maybe you’re right idk it’s 4am and I’m arguing in a philosophy KZbinrs comments :(

[@judedoesclassics9169]

Seeing someone use Classics on the internet in a way that is actually constructive is a breath of fresh air, thank you Abigail!

[@harveyholmes9533]

“You’ll now immediately forget all of this” Has a much deeper meaning because I watched this a week ago on Patreon and when I saw ‘new upload’ I completely forgot I’d seen it

[@egirlSkeletor]

The left has a single brain we have to take turns using

[@Yawgrimas]

@@egirlSkeletor At least we have one to share :).

[@valemortez]

I don't know. When he was talking about inductive argument I got reminded of Boolean Algebra and now I only remember (in horror) that.

[@harveyholmes9533]

friendlySkeletor it’s cause of all the soy it’s made us hive minded

[@carolyntalbot947]

@@valemortez We don't curse around here, this is supposed to be a forum for civilized discourse! Boolea---psssht, reported!!

[@viewerguy25]

Cicero: "Can we get a vibe check?" The room: "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!"

[@isabelh5561]

Nice WH reference

[@Jekyllstein_Gray]

The blood of God is blood!

[@robertcapestany6019]

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

@@isabelh5561 what does WH stand for? pretty sure it's just a technoblade reference

[@dalepalmitier7114]

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 It stands for Warhammer, the game that the "blood god" and "skull throne" lines come from.

[@eliisonline]

Thanks for bringing Ceasar's speech alive !! When many teachers read it it sounds just boring and inconsequential

[@ChrispyNut]

Yes, unfortunately some/many/most history teachers are boring, which leads to a disproportionate percentage of boring people continuing to study it to become qualified enough to teach and perpetuate the cycle, thus assisting in the perpetuation of the worst aspects of history endlessly repeating. Hopefully, with the proliferation of the internet and "free" access to passionate historians and teachers, a broader spectrum of people will be inspired to learn more history and pass that knowledge on in an increasingly broad manner so that lessons can really be learned from the past and terrible mistake left in the history books, rather than copied and pasted every few decades to centuries.

[@Artholic100]

No wonder its dull, if they just read it from the source, whereas a teacher who walks around in front of students and has memorized it almost in 1:1, would indeed be much more interesting to hear/watch. "I can just read it myself..." Every teacher is boring non-educating if they just read stuff from the book, no matter the subject.

[@Sealdrop]

Logics new album is nice

[@ahnrho]

God damn.

[@preferablypurple8157]

You're not The Needledrop

[@RadRiveter]

I love how Olie's "short" vids still have to crack at least 30 minutes.

[@carolyntalbot947]

He knows we can't get enough.

[@luxuryvagrant6496]

You can't rush greatness.

[@sealogic4552]

I need as much Thorn as possible

[@chriscauley4182]

It was a very dense 30 minutes. Meanwhile Hbomb can't say "the writing sucks" in under 2 hours.

[@aidanklobuchar1798]

@@chriscauley4182 Makes for entertaining background noise though.

[@KABNeenan]

"...great way to trick people into thinking you have a personality." Me: **furiously scribbling notes** On a completely unrelated topic, good work narrating on the audio version of Axiom's End!

[@tecguySD]

Wait, he did the audiobook? Nice!

[@KABNeenan]

@@tecguySD He narrated parts of it while Stephanie Willis narrated the majority. Though his parts were relatively brief I thought they were well done (even if the audio quality was a little off) enough that I'd give a listen to any other works he might narrate in the future.

[@CasaiAgicap]

Having a personality is for people with friends

[@stayphrosty]

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[@nukiradio]

Write that down write that down

[@CaitieLou]

1:51 "He tried to overthrow the government...His plan was to take advantage of an economic crisis. To get the people on his side, to raise an army, and then assassinate the top guy in Rome." Oof, that hits different after January 6th.

[@lisaleibfried5318]

1:23 also hits different now

[@fractalcat3696]

Is anyone else watching all of the 2020 PhilosophyTube videos and just ruminating on the fact that she was Abigail the whole time??? I'm bamboozled! Such great acting, and I'm glad we won't be seeing this male character anymore ;)

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

it's a bit of a stunner yea

[@VoteOrDie99]

She knowingly cosplayed/larped as a dude for over a yeah. We have been fooled and bamboozled. Lol. For real though I'm glad she's finally out and hopefully proud.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

It was Abby Thorn all along!

[@Cherry-sg4zg]

What you mean

[@hotfishdev]

I’m not so much glad we’ll not be seeing this male character. It’s more like… mourning? I liked the male character, and I like the Abby character, but as we’ll not be seeing the male character again it feels like the end of something good even as it makes way for something better.

[@eldattackkrossa9886]

ollie DESTROYS my recommended with FACTS and LOGIC

[@heyzeuscreestow9394]

owned and wrecked

[@arandomcomment1092]

*AND THE HAMMER OF REASON!!1!1!!1one*

[@chocolatesprite]

@@arandomcomment1092 weedq

[@Healermain15]

Also CHARLES DARWIN vs KARL MARX: RECKONING

[@matthewsmith5916]

"I'm against this 'execute budding-dictators' precedent" - Julius Caesar

[@futurestoryteller]

Aren't they supposed to be the ones who made him the dictator?

[@matthewsmith5916]

​@@futurestoryteller As I recall the story the senators were a bit upset about the fellow in the end.

[@CrisSelene]

@@futurestoryteller they named him dictator and gave him many other titles and political positions, then started pointing the finger "oh-oh this guy has too much power! Let's kill him, lads!" but in Latin. "Occidamus illum, amici!" (???)

[@michaelwatkins8710]

They made him dictator, then killed him because that is aLwAyS bAd. Then they read his will and he had left ALL his possessions to the citizens of Rome and prolly had Rome's best interest at heart lol. Ataturk and Lee Kuan Yew are great examples of dictators who made Turkey and Singapore respectively way better for their citizens.

[@Zarastro54]

Michael Watkins And Pedro II of Brazil. Though he was a monarch, the power concentration is virtually the same.

[@fghsgh]

"Study shows university classics education mainly used for writing esoteric background jokes" omg always love 4th wall breaks

[@1996Pinocchio]

"... great way to trick people into thinking that you have a personality." I'm sold.

[@TheMrBrosef]

John Bercow shouting over interruptions to Caesar's speech was a great detail

[@EMSpdx]

Looked for this! I almost fell out of my chair laughing!

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Ordaaaaaa

[@frankieashworth6942]

Eh. Lindsey Hoyle is better

[@raanasyed8249]

Orda ordaaa

[@jizburg]

"Okay... vibe check?!" "Kill em all" Thats hard core XD

[@roryokane5907]

Not just that. A Palpatine reference. “Kill them. Kill them now.”

[@dylankornberg4892]

“James Bond is Italian.” They hated Jesus because he told the truth.

[@kristofveres8450]

Philosophy Tube: Insulting Italy. Apologising to Portugal and Hungary.

[@Eli-su6ql]

He actually sounds so much like Hbomberguy in that apology... if he wanted he could absolutely impersonate Harry.

[@justbeyondthecornerproduct3540]

@@Eli-su6ql I was convinced for 2 weeks she got him to do that voice over

[@ig-8887]

I love how olly unapologeticlly offends the Italians with a Hungarian and Portuguese flag.

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Cause most of us are ignorant and won't know the diff 😒😥

[@ThotBuddle]

Most anti Italian media since 30 Rock

[@xaxis7847]

As a half Italian, I don’t really care

[@wydiwy]

It's like a new version of this picture of Cpt. Picard with the caption "Use the force, Harry!" - Gandalf.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Nationalism should always be mocked. Just like all forms of bigotry. ^-^

[@justalan7844]

Me: *trying to absorb the wealth of knowledge in this video* Also me: "Ollie's hair looks fantastic"

[@evalinanegus4608]

I'm going to have to not look at the video and just listen because his face is just too distracting in the good way 😂

[@maia_gaia]

His skin is especially smooth and glowing today, I think

[@hunterG60k]

@@maia_gaia Make-up game is strong 🔥

[@danielandres1878]

Shoutout to Ollie's eyebrows. They was on point

[@ImMarkiee]

@Electric Sheep new mic or voice training, as well? or just in my head?

[@hurbig]

Logic is a field that computer science and philosophy have in common. I am a computer scientist, I do love philosophy and logic is probably my favorite part of both. It is like solving a sudoku only with real world application.

[@madeleinep.828]

Knowing that she was keeping her true identity from the public at this time just proves that she’s an even greater actor than we thought!

[@VixVixious]

As an Italian I’m offended he mispronounced “chiamo”, but the rest was a pretty accurate depiction of our national hero Bondini I must admit

[@StNick119]

I loved him in Vento Aureo.

[@duxnihilo]

And of your Luso-Italian flag.

[@jean-lucasymptotic5083]

@@duxnihilo Luso-Esuriitian flag.

[@broccoliflorette1970]

Mispronounced the heck out of the Latin, though

[@fool4343]

@@broccoliflorette1970 there are multiple pronunciations. His surely isn't classical maybe it's vulgar latin?

[@VeEmCe]

The entire point of this was to educate peeps on proper use of "Begging the Question" and I am so here for it.

[@General12th]

"prompting the question" I love that phrase!

[@sibtiger5593]

@@General12th I always used "raising the question" but "prompting" is good too.

[@thesewinggeekmiri9029]

23:52 "...so he nails Decimus Solanus down twice,..." me, a being who has been broken by the internet: "...kinky."

[@MCArt25]

nails him down like Spartacus

[@Oxtocoatl13]

Caesar: Summarily executing people without trial is a bad precedent that might lead to innocents being killed. Cicero: k lol what a wuss. -> Cicero gets summarily executed without trial by Caesar's padawan Marcus. Caesar, in whichever corner of the afterlife where extremely stabbed Roman aristocrats hang out: told ya.

[@cranknlesdesires]

They didn't even chop his head off right, this is so sad, can we reinstate the Roman Republic?

[@velvetzealot5175]

Why is Gerard Way staring at me like I stole his car? Oh nvm, Philosophy Tube uploaded

[@Themuscatgirl]

You can say he's NOT OKAY (I promise)😉

[@NimhLabs]

I'm not related to Philosophy Tube, but I wish I was because he is a major hottie

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

@@NimhLabs Isn't it better to not be related if you find him attractive?

[@Themuscatgirl]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 shhhhh let her have her sweet Alabama moment (not)

[@Themuscatgirl]

@@kennethmyers1675 even his dump on SoundCloud sound like FRICKIN masterpieces

[@gwencere9383]

"The vibe in the room is pretty bloodthirsty" Girls night.

[@horseenthusiast1250]

Me and the girls are murdering some dudes in the senate tonight ✨♥️😊 self-care 🧖♥️♥️♥️✨

[@kx7500]

I though this was a period eating joke lol

[@gwencere9383]

@@kx7500 Haha. What?

[@RFLCPTR]

@@gwencere9383 BDG reference.

[@gwencere9383]

@@RFLCPTR Hell yeah

[@mahawk12]

As a fellow philosopher, thank you for doing this. If more people knew about logic, we'd be in a better place. Yes there are unstated assumption in the claim I just made, but I'm too lazy to write everything out.

[@juliuscesear9312]

I have a doubt actually can you tell me

[@boundbythecurve]

I think there's a big unstated conclusion that Caesar assumed be true: The decision being made regarding the traitors should be made in Rome's best interest. Every other conclusion points towards what would be best for Rome in the long run. But I think it's safe to say that these senators weren't acting on behalf of Rome's best interest long term. So fighting for that specific conclusion might have been fairly moot.

[@charliegreen1737]

Sounds familiar...

[@lauramccullagh980]

I love the persistence of the deeply expressive silent film actress eyebrows; you pull off the look and im jealous.

[@Sofia-xy4me]

He did it for the video or is it his new look? Is he transitioning? lol

[@TEMPEST4k]

@@Sofia-xy4me it's rude to speculate about that.

[@misstanar]

As someone who posesses that talent,it's something you can't learn unfortunately

[@doodlcakes]

Edith Piaf vibes

[@karistickle5576]

I couldn’t figure out what the difference was, why he was looking so damn pretty. It’s the brows and that hair.

[@tomatosoup44]

"You will now immediately forget all of this." Way to call us all out, Olly. But you're right, actually.

[@solhsa]

It's the new "thanks for watching, if you were"

[@Healermain15]

Which video was that from? I can't quite remember.

[@Shrooblord]

I thought he was casting a subtle spell right there... hmm

[@Yahuaa]

Didja know James Bond is Italian?

[@XanothAvaeth]

I'd already had that thought before he mentioned it, too aware that the video was nearing the end and that I'd already forgotten the start. Learning requires a lot of repetition, coupled with the commonly cited trick of learning to teach, you retain information better if you do so with the intent of passing it on, rather than just hoping it stays on a brain shelf. In that regard, I'd love more of these. Even stuff that's shorter or purely in audio form. Hey Ollie, you're not busy right? Not moving or anything? Podcast?

[@PanRace]

Seeing “Kanye west announces unprecedented bid for senate” in the text crawl made me choke on my coffee

[@ncrtrooper1782]

Now I can see Abby hidden behind the curtains.

[@rayne4334]

Olly: This video is short and sweet. *video is 34 minutes* There's a joke about not-so-quick quickies in there but I'm too undercaffeinated to make it.

[@vitormelomedeiros]

LMFAO

[@alexchimi7093]

Don't eat the crab dip!

[@joryjones6808]

How did everyone comment on this 30 min ago when it was published like 1 min ago.

[@thestorytellingmathematician]

How was this comment posted one week ago?

[@edmund3504]

@@thestorytellingmathematician I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe the video was unlisted for a while and they had the link to it

[@samekins5117]

Olly cosplaying a goth Richard Spencer is something I did not think I’d ever see

[@sealogic4552]

At some point you’re gonna need to re-evaluate your expectations

[@hanami741]

All i see is Jared Leto

[@awlomthesheepermen]

All I see is Spider-Man 3 but with slurs

[@demilembias2527]

"My ethno state may be white, but my soul is pitch black" --goth Richard Spencer

[@UubTay]

A goth Richard Spencer who also happens to be Julius Caesar

[@kaycashew]

The RBC news crawl was top-tier! “Classics education mostly used to write esoteric jokes” 😊

[@ysodora8030]

Watching this in 2021 is absolutely surreal. It never ceases to to amaze me at how history literally repeats itself.

[@katjarozantseva8069]

The day before this video got even more surreal

[@persbaderse]

need a shirt that says "non occides these dudes"

[@91Vault]

The “this doesn’t sound right to me but I can’t articulate why” was basically my life up until breadtube (more or less)

[@cpt.taselbymc8400]

Word.

[@Virjunior01]

Exactly.

[@the_REAL_Pearl_]

Saaaaaame

[@lady_lovelace]

I wanna upvote you but you're on 69 so I'm comming back later

[@stayphrosty]

+

[@AMTunLimited]

that monologue was masterfully executed. Big "National Theatre" vibes. It makes me really sad I probably won't get to see you on stage

[@ashkenazi-auntie]

>01:23 "so we're in a very interesting transition period" SHE WAS DROPPING HINTS

[@elisecode2212]

The Kim Kardashian meme. “I’m like, dropping hints that I’m trans.” “We’re in a very interesting transition period.”

[@carneliansnowdrop]

OMG “ordah ordah” amazing audio mixing just casually slipping Bercow in there

[@tofu1291]

"he has a right to be heard" lol

[@melgibson6093]

I've been an "Alt-Righter" for about a year now, and I recently begun watching videos like yours and others in the BreadTube sphere. Hearing your recreation of Caesars speech has made me question a LOT of my previous beliefs.

[@AltoSnow]

Out of curiosity, what prompted you to search up some BreadTube vids?

[@heyzeuscreestow9394]

If you are able to question your views were you ever really a "alt-righter"? Congrats to you mate, a lot of people refuse to give their opposition a listen. Let alone actually internalize what was said.

[@Bilboswaggins2077]

I don’t think you were ever really an alt righter then. Good for you man

[@melgibson6093]

@@heyzeuscreestow9394 Funnily enough the ideology I subscribed to for a while (What some would call "Slavros Fascism") encouraged not ever questioning your views, dressed up in a nice fancy wordy way that swayed me more than it should have. It basically boiled down to "Fascism is the only Truth, and everything else is a lie, because Fascists worship and accept Truth without ego, whereas non-Fascists will always advocate solely in their own interests regardless of Truth." To accept that you kind of have to accept that there is a single objective Truth, which after watching PT's video on Peterson, I doubt.

[@TheLostArchangel666]

@@melgibson6093 it sounds like you went pretty deep down into some dark places. I'm glad you're managing to find your own path, now. We're happy you've found your way here. Or at least, I am.

[@darksideofthemood]

a very interesting transition period INDEED. xoxo, abi

[@djalexander968]

this is definitely like the 7th time I've watched this but thank you so much Abigail, I love these breaking downs of dialogue and philosophy, it's made this high school dropout consider college again, and your helping me learn more about the things I care about every time you post, hope you know how much you help

[@Agos226]

Julius Caesar: We can’t kill them, it’s not the Jedi way Decimus Silanus: DO IT

[@roryokane5907]

Cicero: “kill them. Kill them *now* “

[@TheGman6817]

Dew it

[@appleslover]

"Eat him, DE WIT"

[@iLeven713]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[@CD-tj3hg]

@@iLeven713 not from a roman

[@Enndorii]

It's strange to watch these videos and know that she was pretending for so long.

[@arthurbaldry8443]

Well that's just acting

[@Enndorii]

@@arthurbaldry8443 True. She’s an incredible actor

[@januarymilk9347]

'You will forget this in a few days' A few days later 'They strangled them to death' playing on a loop in my head

[@adancingpieceofbread8109]

Palpatine: "I am the senate. In this essay I will explain why I am the Senate and why it is for the good of the republic that the Jedi be outlawed and executed without trial."

[@niclyx7970]

"I also want to emphasize repeatedly as I say this - I'm not angry."

[@graceohanrahan2865]

"James Bond is Italian!" shows Portugal and the Hungarian flag. lmao

[@s.osullivan1193]

also calls him italy’s most famous “historical figure” lmao

[@uncanaleaparte]

And nobody in Italy is called Jameso

[@russelljackson2818]

Fucking lost it during this part

[@roryokane5907]

S. O'Sullivan in a video featuring *Julius Caesar* XD

[@fumoblitzkrie]

"moving from one way of life to another" and the gig. I'm reading it right? ^^

[@indrinita]

Honestly. So thankful you are keeping this vast catalog of knowledge sharing in the form of youtube content still up. Because that's a treasure trove of years and years of essential information.

[@leticiadornelas4555]

i feel like abby had too much fun writing the scrolling text

[@andrews7560]

The Roman numerals are amazing

[@m0dulegirl]

I feel like all the time he would have spent on a longer video went into the crawl

[@alisaurus4224]

A Casual on Survival transcribed them all a few comments up

[@agrainofsun]

Christians in 60 B.C. are the highlight of it

[@caitlinjopepe541]

Fun fact those are called chyrons

[@ghost_in_the_system]

This event was hugely important historically. In his later life, Julius Caesar would use the unlawful execution of these men as a rhetorical hammer against Cicero, reducing his efforts to oppose Caesar as he sought to make himself King of Rome.

[@Billzor991]

@@philippcrain Julius Caesar never called himself Emperor and was never called that. Neither was Augustus called that.

[@Micky96]

Which is a funny call back to the argument that history will remember the punishment more than the crime.

[@TheScourge007]

@@philippcrain Well there's some controversy over whether Caesar actually was trying to become officially king or not. Certainly the folks who killed him thought he was and there are a few incidents during Caesar's rule that support this (like the time Marc Antony tried to give Caesar a crown and Caesar waited to gauge the crowd's reaction before rejecting it, or him going around wearing purple, a king-associated color). Romans hated the idea of a king, and in many ways it took a few centuries before the emperors of Rome could really rule openly as monarchs rather than the fiction of being "first among equals" while pretending the senate and elected offices still mattered (and those elected offices stayed throughout the imperial period even though the elections had mostly been a sham since even before the Republic fell).

[@vthinking9518]

*insert joke here about the "HAMMER OF REASON"

[@malavoy1]

He was actually trying to become 'speaker' for life. The last king of Rome was thrown off the cities walls when they became a republic. 'Speaker', or 'dictator' in Latin, was a position that the senate had to vote on, usually in an emergency, such as open war between nobles, bureaucratic problems, etc. It had a time limit and the speaker could do whatever was necessary to bring the problems under control, but would be held accountable afterwards for any laws that were broken in the process. They eventually abolished the position until Sulla's mentor was elected into the position. Then Sulla got the position which led to a rebellion against him (with Caesar among them). But, at the time Julius Caesar asked to be made speaker for life, he was close to 60 and most Roman nobility lived only till their 70's, meaning he would only have had the position for 10 years. His nephew Augustus became first emperor after the fallout from Julius Caesars assassination (from the Latin word 'imperator' which means commander).

[@user-ns6os2ym6n]

*Orderrrr* of the chairman is the most hilarious thing 😂

[@gloriousrobotbunny3275]

knowing she is putting on a masculine male face and voice for this completely fucks with my perception of being born to fit a gender role

[@drfraudulence909]

Gender is a fuck, etc

[@brya9681]

its called acting darling

[@gloriousrobotbunny3275]

@@brya9681 i suppose there is a lot of truth to that. when he plays other roles for the sake of metaphor its incredibly believable :)

[@katyungodly]

I still have to lower my voice to talk with my family (I'm not out at home) but I'm able to speak with my normal voice with friends and my fiancée 😊

[@Paczification]

It's a he, dimwit

[@C.C.Cope220]

Ollie: Reciting very important argument from antiquity The news ticker below: Colosseum Lion ill after eating unwashed Christian

[@Vicky-uv8ri]

As an unwashed Christian, my apologies to the lion, may he get well soon.

[@roryokane5907]

Which is why it’s far more humane to crucify them. Poor lion.

[@secularmonk5176]

Ok, I'll be "that guy" ... there were no Christian martyrs in the First Century BEFORE CHRIST

[@ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758]

God Ollie, you can’t just bring my emo phase back single handedly like that

[@ellaforlin8160]

Oh god same

[@Stonewren]

Spider man 3 vibes

[@sindrehsoereide]

F

[@roryokane5907]

“My lord... is that emo?” *I will make it emo.*

[@patsmith1129]

I like how even when Abby starts the episode off by telling us this will be a simpler, more straightforward episode, it still needed a costume change and 5+minute monologue before the 10 minute mark

[@KerbalRocketry]

rewatching these videos is just, holy fuck you're such a good actor to pass as male during all this

[@lucydecker6276]

Julius Caesar: "Previous senates acted with restraint." *Previous senates burnt down Carthage.* Me: Seems legit.

[@vanilloia7479]

Carthago delenda est???

[@gjvnq]

Only after two/three wars though

[@roryokane5907]

ThisIsMyRealName the salt thing is nonsense. Africa (the Roman province roughly equating to Tunis in the Carthaginian hinterland) was the breadbasket of Rome prior to the annexation of Egypt. Also... horrible sackings of cities were pretty normal for antiquity.

[@GrandGobboBarb]

eVeN AftEr CaRtHaGe WRONGED us wE AcTed wItH rEStrAint (by burning it down and salting the earth)

[@CrisSelene]

For Julius Caesar? Totally legit. The Senate, the law, everyone : Gaius Julius Caesar, you're not allowed to cross the Rubicon with your army Caesar : 😏 oops, I tripped

[@Owesomasaurus]

"...and thats a good way to trick people into thinking you have a personality." ...I feel called out by this very relateable content.

[@lemondrizzlecake7766]

Not gonna lie, that moment when Ollie produced Sallust caused me, an Italian, to have weird and unpleasant flashbacks to high school Latin classes and having to translate the damn thing.

[@EmmaBonn96]

1:34 foreshadowing

[@AnimatedCarl]

Me: Being a bad student and not paying attention. Olly: "And now, I play Polymerization--!" Me: Immediately snaps back to the video.

[@elidamonsterz4222]

Did not expect to see you here

[@capsandnumbers]

I had a physics professor who would tactically drop an anecdote about his guinea pigs when he felt attention dropping

[@OkamiRose]

Carlllllll you're here! Nice vibe check my guy

[@jimmyl27]

“Kanye West announces unconventional bid for senate” So busy staring at your face I nearly missed the bottom words

[@jacksonporter6720]

“Roman slaves are the happiest, according to slave-owners” the bottom news feed is filled with gold

[@ergohack]

_"Chariot-sharing app sparks protests from horse union"_ _"Lucius Cornelius Chrysogonus arrested in connection with Jeffrey Epstein"_ _"Study shows university classics education mainly used for writing esoteric background jokes"_

[@plum999o]

omfg sis truly how did u dupe us 😂😭💖🏳️‍⚧️

[@Ybalrid]

Well, she's a *good actress*

[@rebbecawitt581]

An extramly good actress

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Like insert that line from episode 1 of Brooklyn 99 "Damn, we are not good detectives"

[@taitenator4987]

It’s really interesting rewatching your old videos and suddenly being able to see you shining through the cracks in the mask, I knew the Vibes I was getting were coming from somewhere!

[@nlabonte]

In Julius Caesar's defense, it's hard to be persuasive to a bunch of middle aged Romans when you're dressed like a mid-2000s member of Panic! At the Disco. Or should I say (Sorry, Latin)... Pavor! Discotheca

[@noidea4254]

Sorry for being such a pedantic nerd, but Discotheca should be in the ablative case since it’s a locative, so it’s Pavor! in Discothecā

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

@@noidea4254 Don't blame yourself, but what you said is exactly why I stopped learning Latin

[@nlabonte]

@@noidea4254 No worries. I figured someone with knowledge in Latin would correct me if I were wrong. Thanks for the clarification!

[@noidea4254]

@@nlabonte Aww, no problem

[@noidea4254]

​@@ILikedGooglePlusHaha, no worries, I totally get it. I had it as an elective for 3 years in middle school and quit for similar reasons. I wouldn't recommend it unless you're a masochist who's very into languages. To be fair, the classroom culture was amazing and we did more mythology, history, movie analysis etc. than we did actual grammar so it was actually pretty fun.

[@Apollo2112x1]

Olly flashing the 👌 sign while talking about hidden premises & conclusions in a video talking about an event near the fall of the Roman Republic has got me going nuts lol

[@flaming6]

I had not even caught that, thank you.

[@shadow_of_thoth]

It's a dogwhistle. Olly is a fascist. He's been feeding us all subliminal messages every time we watch a video. We're all fascists now.

[@NathanielMosk]

Thank you so much for this. Having a really bad year...I just literally laughed my ass off at 5am, quite possibly frightening my roommate/neighbors. You are a treasure.

[@clean_coffee921]

Coming back this might be one of my favorite pt videos, which is kind of surprising bc (like abi says at the end) i basically forgot about it right after i watched it the first time. Not only is the content incredibly potent and helpful but the aesthetic is super focused/tight while also being very subdued. Great work gal!

[@sociallyineptspider-man2366]

First Hbomberguy after almost a year, now this? My day has been saved

[@PeKaNo]

at least this video was good

[@tangothembo8198]

@@PeKaNo :(

[@chubs191]

@@PeKaNo as someone who's never liked RWBY, but all their friends fawn over it constantly, his latest video was like a shining beacon in the darkness.

[@lucyandecember2843]

Your dad?? Did he change his mind?? O.O

[@KillerKyuubi]

@@chubs191 mood

[@scolek22]

"Terrorist preacher Yeshua ha-Nozri sought by authorities in Judea" yoooooooooo the spin. the optics.

[@alfonsoarroyo3283]

Caesar's objective was not to have them exiled, but imprisoned. Exile would have allowed them to re-join the army and not dissuaded other assassins from attempting to kill Cicero again. This is a small distinction, but relevant, as imprisoning was not really a common practice in ancient Rome, and as such it would have stirred some controversy. (Caesar was thought to have played some role in Catalina's conspiracy). Rereading the last paragraph of an unedited version of the speech will clear any doubts, I'm sure. Great video!

[@joshuajames6481]

Hey Abby

[@carissawood1854]

I knew there was something up with those eyebrows