The Mercedes EV Disaster...What Happened?

[@Errr717]

I still like physical buttons. I don''t particularly care to be searching for the function I want on an iPad while driving.

[@stevemartin7464]

I agree, aircon can just have a button, so can cruise control, and many other things, who over complicate things? Also what worries me is that when I look at faults in cars it is very often electrics that fail. I simply think people have overreacted with EVs, slow and steady would be better, but I can understand manufacturers being afraid of being left behind I suppose.

[@macnibnob]

Or just tell your car what you want, and it will happen... unless you don't have a Tesla. (To be fair, it doesn't always get it right... yet) 🖖

[@Ottobon]

The important thing with buttons and why i honestly wish screens as used today weren't legal is you can manipulate buttons without looking at them. The current trend of pretending drivers don't need to look at the road but contrary needs to stop, we aren't anywhere near that yet.

[@stevemartin7464]

@@Ottobon I agree, thats why they made buttons of different sizes and shapes; you can identify them by feel. its a huge safety advantage. Also, if the screen breaks you can adjust nothing at all, a total loss of all functionality, I just can't see the sense in that at all.

[@4g63t8]

You are not alone

[@DaBadNewz]

"started at $180,000 and looked...like this" cracked me up!

[@LogicallyAnswered]

It’s actually a disgrace for the price 😂

[@Rncko]

If this isn't Mercedes but China made car, my first impression would be..... "potato"? By just flying that Mercedes logo in front, it upgrades into ...."premium elegant.... potato"?

[@Chamieiniibet]

@@LogicallyAnswered have you checked their other vehicles? Mercedes is making a lot of butt ugly cars like that, ESPECIALLY in the premium segment. I always thought I just don't get the "rich people car aesthetics" or whatever.

[@DaBadNewz]

@@LogicallyAnswered definitely! And a really weird for them to not know their market

[@oceanwave4502]

I have a feeling that European cars will only become luxurious brands, in light of affordable chinese cars flooding the world market. Luxury brands: sell around 1000 cars per year, with 1 million dollars per car. 😅

[@Reminisciences]

What I wouldn't give for a Mercedes that has a long-range reliable diesel engine, simple design, and an interior with buttons, knobs, anything tactile. I want to buy a Mercedes, but unfortunately the only ones matching that description are about 3 decades out of date.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Ah, looking for a classic I see

[@Reminisciences]

@@LogicallyAnswered Only problem with classics is that, even "million mile" old cars need maintenance. I'd love to see them take their old designs as close to modern tech as possible without trimming them beyond recognition.

[@TheBossStudioZ]

their steering gesture control is unreliable to say the least

[@lDavidl]

I have a 1993 W124 300D Turbo (OM603 Turbo). It is perfection. Or, at least it would be if it was brand new. What I wouldn't give for a brand new W124... Currently looking into getting the cleanest 400E that I can find. I'm also considering swapping my OM603 Turbo to a less used OM606 Turbo and tuning it to 400-500HP...

[@JohnWiku]

If you're looking for old school features in a "modern", then the classic ones aren't "out of date" 😂😂

[@zackmouses]

when Mercedes discontinued the CLS and S-Class Coupe, I knew that the era of beautiful iconic Mercedes modes had ended, and so too my interest in this brand.

[@rogerclarke2191]

Ditto, as the owner of a bought new E350 Coupe

[@petercollingwood522]

I'm a lot older than you so my interest ended years ago. Around 2005 or so. And that was only with some few models that were still decent.

[@Baseballnfj]

​@@petercollingwood522last Mercedes I had was a 2001 S500 tuned by Lorinser imported from Germany. The car was absolutely sick... but one morning I woke up and the car was completely on the ground... the air suspension had 100% failed. The cost of that repair put me off Mercedes forever. Now I buy Audis... and am much happier

[@billpugh58]

Mercedes doesn’t want you as a customer. They want younger people now

[@Bangy]

You mean CL right? CLS sucks.

[@l333cher]

For anybody wondering if its worth buying one.. the answer is NO. As an owner of a brand new EQ vehicle I can tell you that for the last 2.5 years my car has been constantly in the repair shop. So far the number of visits is 15+. It is even there right now. MB has completely ignored my requests for a replacement and my options atm are returning the car and looking for another brand.

[@stormrider01]

If you want to sell EVs don’t make them look like EVs!

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

Said no Mustang MachE owner ever.

[@GoldenDoom]

I would have to disagree. Yes a classic look of a gas car looks great (except the newer bmws). But when it comes to electric they have less milage than gas so reducing aero is important. Also loon at hyundai. They used electric cars to redefine themselves pretty well. Also their cars look sick.

[@synaesthesia888]

Ford tried that already, and failed hard, no ones buying their EV trucks

[@joez.2794]

@@GoldenDoom Did you even watch the video? We tried it your way. It doesn't work if nobody will buy them.

[@GoldenDoom]

@@joez.2794 the existance of tesla proves my point.

[@temperchill]

I don’t mind the egg shape, but the 2003 Windows Media Player UI design is a crime.

[@raylopez99]

Ford Taurus was an egg and a best seller. So was Windows 8. But Harry is right, people who buy a new car every other year are into status and not thinking of the "common good" like saving the planet. Give them what they want.

[@thexht7927]

MBUX looks great. What do you mean?

[@onsokumaru4663]

It's miles better than current soulless boring UI designs.

[@Jeez001]

Given how lucid pulled off the egg shape design it s not excuse why Benz couldn’t do the same

[@miss_bougie6653]

It’s so tacky and childish

[@criszh2981]

You mentioned the cars’ look but I think you missed a point: the EQ models look actually CHEAPER than their ICE equivalent. After so long, I do think that car designer should have learned that piano black is not a premium material: it’s only cheap, glossy plastic. It looks like MB has been pinching pennies to recover some of the higher costs of the electric drivetrain.

[@honor9lite1337]

Hmm 🤔

[@BosonCollider]

This. They should have taken a hint from Tesla and just gone with a steel nose instead of a fake plastic grill

[@993mike]

As a German performance ICE fan, I love watching the EV market fall on its face. Mercedes also announced the dropping of the 4 cylinder hybrid engine in many AMG models in favor of bringing back the 4.0L turbo V-8 due to abysmal sales. Oh happy days!

[@psygnale]

@@993mike Amen. As a GL550 owner, no Mercedes (outside of diesels) should have a displacement below 4.5L…and Im being generous. My personal favorite engines are the M156 (AMGs first in-house engine) and the M120, so size-wise, you KNOW where my head is at!

[@miskatonic6210]

​​@@993mikeWell, narrow minded fools like you won't laugh for long. There is no other way than EVs. Brands falling onto their face will just make individual mobility a lot more costly in the future. A 4.0 L Turbo V8?😂 They can't afford to keep that on the market. That's just how legislation is nowerdays. These cars will end up as overpriced unicorns.

[@richardelson3261]

I will never buy a car with massive iPad screen

[@standuppaddlecyclingcarsan2501]

I agree

[@Ragebait01]

I will never buy a car which is not European (or Japanese)

[@Bangy]

​@@Ragebait01I would say new Korean ICE/Hybrid vehicles are at least on par with Japan.

[@Ramkrushna_K]

Yes. Those screens look fancy but not ergonomically convenient

[@jackmarston2515]

​@@Ramkrushna_Kthat's the common opinion until you actually use it.

[@PrinzessinDampfhammer]

Im an engineer in Bavaria and work a lot with the big car manufacturers. The main reason bmw and Mercedes went electric is they fear the Otto and diesel gets banned in Europe eventually. The main reason I drive bmw is because they have the most performance heavy over engineered engines. Like the 320d goes 245kmh. Wich is insane for a 190hp car. there is no reason to by a German car when everything is electric. The major selling point is gone. So. The writing in the wall is that maybe Otto and diesel will be longer around as anticipated and so they are ruddering back with electric. Because to be honest. Electric sucks balls.

[@robertbrandywine]

That and the price. They should be able to make an electric vehicle for much less than an ICE vehicle.

[@BeverlySeverence]

Brutally honest.

[@pokegan52]

Fun fact, my neighbor bought an EQS. She came back to the car a month later with a bunch of electrical problems due to the wires being wrapped in a factory soy-based material that was chewed on by mice any chance they got, inside, outside, everywhere. In fact the EQS even attracted mice to the garage for that reason. Now the car needs a whole new wiring harness and she is lemon law ing the car as result.

[@JohnWiku]

Merc has been doing very DUMB things with their wiring, did they forget the bio degradable harnesses a few decades ago? Soy based insulation on electric wires? REALLY??? Fucking hell merc 😂😂😂

[@thabzmad7265]

Well, it is an environmentally friendly material, too friendly in fact, mother 🌎 sends some of her best soldiers 🐁 to do the direct cleanup 😅

[@larryc1616]

Mercedes are tasty 🐀

[@rainbowshulacorns3666]

If this is true, that’s sad oversight in procurement

[@BTC909]

Squeak, sweak, sweak, sweak, translation "do you smell smoke?"

[@josecorchete3732]

The music in the last chapter was very loud. Couldn't barely hear you.

[@MiranHlede]

i just wanted to say the same thing

[@VarvorSG]

HE HAD TO MAKE THE POINT!!!!! (Sorry for screaming)

[@onsokumaru4663]

It's what you call bad editing

[@GalaxyViking]

WHAT!!???

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oops, appreciate the feedback guys

[@gumerzambrano]

Toyota nailed being patient

[@andyandreou]

As long as they are preparing themselves. I bought an early electric car (I sold that piece of cr@p Nissan Leaf, 3 months later before the battery died on me). If I had an actual electric car with a good battery I would be happy. My solar panels are overpowered for this reason. I’m ready. Guess I’ll have to get a Tesla or a Chinese car.

[@lucidpolygons]

@@andyandreou You should check out rivians R2 (suv) and R3/R3X (crossover/hatch)

[@davidk.d.7591]

Toyota's EV's did even worse than Mercedes

[@loganricherson]

@andyandreou the prius prime, while a plug in hybrid, is equivalent to an ev most of the time. It has around a 40 mile ev range just on battery. Unless you do lots of round trips greater than that, it's functionally an ev

[@delbroox]

Mercedes EV sales increased by 61% in 2023. This guy is just misleading. Not doing bad after all…

[@owen_johnathon8420]

I personally don't like the new EQ interior - there's way too many screens, lost it's luxurious features

[@rainersta7073]

At least there should be a fine luxury conventional dashboard as option as Jaguar had in former times. A wood leather analog clock version with high quality massive aluminum . Not this chinese chrome

[@aceb2660]

Dude, at around 12:00~ ish of the video the bg music got lot more louder than your voice, atleast that's what I've noticed.

[@chad9971]

If you're buying a luxury vehicle, efficiency is the LAST thing on your list. Luxury in itself is the opposite of practicality and efficiency.

[@obsidianjane4413]

Its not about efficiency. Its about virtue-signaling. This was aimed at those for whom a Tesla was far too pedestrian.

[@churblefurbles]

@@obsidianjane4413 yep and those butthurt about Elon. The Teslas are the only financially viable products.

[@ruthlessrude6014]

you want a car that last...... Go Diesel! Most luxury starts to get problems at 100,000km. Diesel trucks just getting warmed up!!

[@Real_MisterSir]

It's not about efficiency, it's about range. People who buy luxury, see range as a luxury aspect because few EVs can afford to offer good range and still be competitive, so it's usually reserved for the premium brand that have price tags and status to support it. However, the issue isn't the efficiency, it's just that the look they went for is trying to blobify a dated Mercedes idea of what their DNA is. It's a fallacy of many current automakers, where they correlate "family feeling" and "brand DNA" with very specific graphic looks and details. How does the grill look, what's the shape of the headlights, do we do cuts and angles, or sloping surfaces -etc. And that's the real issue. The companies have forgotten that the lines they design aren't their DNA. The REASON behind the lines, that is their true DNA. Mercedes presenting their star logo proud and prominently in the center of the grille and on the hood, the DNA isn't the placement or the shape of the grille. The DNA is the fact that they're proud of the symbol their heritage carries. But modern design departments and execs are too focused on the style of graphic design without considering the reason behind it. They could easily have made a vehicle that would rival Lucid in efficiency, while carrying the air and presence that the Mercedes heritage deserves. yet they didn't. They simply lost touch with what the Mercedes brand means, and now they're suffering from it -as are many other companies like BMW and Alfa Romeo etc.

[@obsidianjane4413]

@@Real_MisterSir AMG shill bot lol.

[@ruirui_130]

$50K for an EQS sounds kinda nice tbh

[@stormtrooper9404]

Only if you have another $50k to repair the Benz junk in the years or better say months to come 😂

[@michaelnash2972]

The battery costs more to replace than the car itself.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Some Dealers wanted $50,000 over MSRP when the EQS first came out! They are getting back what they sowed!

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Except I'd never waste 50K on a Mercedes.

[@skierpage]

​@@michaelnash2972 EV batteries are warranted for 100,000 miles or 8 years, and obviously most won't fall apart the day the warranty runs out.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

On the point of change of CEO, I used to work at Mercedes during that period, and Ola brought in a LOT of changes which were purely on operational efficiency. His tenure brought an engineering driven company to sales driven company as it was his background. There were a LOT of structural changes, like major ones like splitting of Daimler into 3 subsidiaries for cars and vans, trucks and finance. In management side lot of departments we split and reformed. It was a chaotic time and Tesla was a boogieman throughout the quarterly meetings and decision making.

[@omarion07]

Well Mercedes has been in shambles ever since he took the helm!

[@Randolf_Wisenberg]

same happened with Boeing, it went from being an engineering company to a sales driven company and result is in front of everyone

[@vascamp4854]

Merc is largely owned by the Chinese.

[@rogerclarke2191]

Paranois runs deep...into your heart it will creep.

[@ChristianLaurinE]

The split off into 3 subsidiaries I never quite understood. I did not like Ola whatsoever and still don't. Right now Mercedes carline up is a hot freaken mess. The other thing I did not like with Ola is that he sold off and closed all Mercedes owned dealerships. THAT IMO was a major mistake.

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

Actually I prefer the exterior and hate the interior, because that interior is the exact opposite of focused, driver-centric cockpit.

[@einher1]

Exactly. I just saw one in black, and I have to say it looked pretty classy. But the interior, the dashboard, is horrible. It's like a toy.

[@640A]

It turns out even the iconic 3 pointed star can't sell Ugly Expensive stuff!

[@strangerdanger8462]

They can. It's called a G wagon 😂😂

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@Jlw79 I would hardly call that car a success. It sold, yes. Successfully so? No. There's a reason it didn't last as a staple vehicle in their lineup.

[@user-eg3zs6oi7c]

electric cars are useless in major cities where nearly NO ONE lives in a home. you cannot charge a car out of your apartment!

[@winzfeld1]

BMW do though

[@Fanaro]

The soundtrack at the end was too loud.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oops

[@jemje2007]

Average people don’t need anything other than a Corolla/civic on the road. They don’t even know what tires they have, which is almost the most important part of a vehicle. I often laugh when I hear someone tells me their cars have 400 500 600 700hp or more. 90%+ people can’t even handle a 300hp car on track.

[@flashthefalcon948]

as someone who tracks their car on the weekly, you are 100% right. I have a 455hp tuned gs300, that is more than hard to control. ive seen people with cars making under 250hp be absolutely overwhelmed

[@BillLaBrie]

Most people can’t handle a 90 hp car on the street.

[@uthopia27]

Average people can't even afford a 500 bhp car

[@tshegofatsokgoroba6753]

Personally, I think 300 - 350 HP is the sweet spot. Fast enough to be fun but not fast enough to scare yourself half to death.

[@N4CR]

@@tshegofatsokgoroba6753 Agreed for daily driver/grocery getter if you are an enthusiast unless it's really light. You can still have fun without endangering people. I used to daily modified, 9s superbikes. You are looking at jail every day you play around on them.

[@CupraRoemu]

Well look what Mercedes did to AMG. Nobody wants to buy a C63 with a 4 cylinder engine and 2.2 tonnes of weight💀

[@Twmpa]

Someone has yet to explain to me why, in the UK at least, I would get 6 penalty points and a hefty fine if I was caught operating the touchscreen on my phone whilst driving but it is perfectly acceptable to operate a stupidly complicated built in touchscreen whilst driving. There are some of these which literally require you to navigate three or four menu levels to move the air vents for God's sake.

[@danijelfirak6402]

haha well that's a good question... But it's probably only cause tjhey didnt get to it yet, but im sure they will be soon.

[@BeverlySeverence]

Great point.

[@johnlittle8267]

That SUV looks like a 15 year old Chrysler mini van lol

[@elizabethnguyen4910]

True that! Given that Mercedes / Daimler once owned Chrysler...

[@SamuelLanghorn]

how many of those did they actually sell? hilarious.

[@Amunium]

I thought it looked like the Toyota Previa from 1990. And that van was always embarrassing.

[@TC-lk2ev]

@@SamuelLanghorn I live in berlin where there is a huge amounts of mercs and ive never seen one.

[@TC-lk2ev]

Just gonna reply to myself - I finally saw one yesterday. It was hideous.

[@Inforza]

You would need a C or C1 license to drive the Hummer EV in the Netherlands, but not like you mention because he is so wide.. But because it weights more then 3500kg.

[@cobrabull8289]

Ja,en ?!

[@imBugra]

I don't think they even considered The Netherlands as a point of sale for their product. The Dutch is not wealthy anymore, it's a city sized country with communal economy.

[@Inforza]

@@imBugra I think the #1 reason for not seeing any hummers here, is because they are too big for our cities to even find a parking spot another reason the high fuel prices here..

[@igormac88]

they took a very steep gamble and lost it, just like VW with the ID lineup.. at least, by doing a whole different linup for the electric cars, it's easier to just cut the ties and pretend they never existed and it was a collective hallucination 😆

[@MrXelaim]

luckely for vw, they have the etron gt, wich i find to be the most beautifull car driving around currently.

[@Zoltan1251]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Well they do own Audi. Also Taycan looks fine as well. No idea what Mercedes and VW were thinking? Total mystery

[@SamuelLanghorn]

@@Zoltan1251 it's part of the German culture. They think they need to save the planet (see lowest possible drag coefficient). They do not comprehend that the EV (especially Tesla) is a new status symbol.

[@skierpage]

Spending $billions on EVs is a gamble car companies have to take. Tesla took 1.8 million car sales away from combustion engines; Hyundai/Kia EV sales are going great; Chinese cars are making excellent EVs at all price levels. And transportation is one of the easiest economic sectors in which to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, so governments will correctly continue to push electrification of cars. And despite all the fossil-fuel-funded misinformation people spew in KZbin comments, every car owner who cares about the environment and can afford one will buy an EV.

[@crespo72285]

The luxury sector or wealthy people are not really ready for EV. That group of consumer do not really care about fuel efficiency nor fuel Tax. They probably needn't focus more on a more efficient hybirds

[@phyotyla]

I think the worst thing about the recent Mercedes styling is that they decided to put probably hundreds of three-pointed stars all over the cars.

[@tweed0929]

Older Mercs were stately and handsome-looking because they were distinctively 3-volume-esque. You had engine bay, you had driver/passenger bay, you had trunk bay. Today everything is so 1-volume that I struggle to define which body type the car is: sedan or coupe? Liftback or hatchback? WTF? Give us back streamlined 3-volume designs and make sure the car doesn't look overly aggressive or as featurless as EQS was.

[@rahulmandala4930]

Mercedes designs need to be distinctively Mercedes and importantly, beautiful and classy. IMHO None of their current designs communicate that.

[@tweed0929]

@@rahulmandala4930 agreed.

[@ev.c6]

Well, efficiency in EVs and ICEs are completely different. Charging a battery is not as fast as filling the tank. So I’d argue it is an important factor in very expensive cars.

[@schrimpf]

True!

[@winzfeld1]

I thought this. It is actually a big deal

[@skierpage]

Yes, once car buyers understand miles of range gained per minute of charging, they will care _more_ about efficiency. Even saying "The all-new Allanté charges from 10-80% in only 25 minutes!" misses the point; it's how many miles of range you gain in those 25 minutes.

[@imBugra]

It's usually very close, you guys should just get over it. Most of the people do fast charging once per month of usage. Otherwise, it's just charged at the driveway. Instead of that, support 22kW charging with AC, it'll do a better job in countries with better electricity infrastructure.

[@RobloxMaster267]

True, charging a battery is instant in 90% and filling a car takes some minutes. When I say instant I mean plug it in the evening and the next morning is fully charged. You go to sleep and instant you have a full battery!

[@ShinSheel]

I roll my eyes at calling it ugly I think people problem it looks exactly like value cars about $35k

[@Horus070]

That seemed the main problem to me priced way too high

[@marcosdheleno]

thought the same thing, was expecting something like the homer mobile the way they were describing. when it just looks fine.

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

imo Most modern cars look like self replicating blobs in colors of grey black and possibly beige. I can tell you how many times I mistaked a honda civic with a hyandai forte.

[@thatguypal2025]

"It's very gorgeous to me!!!!!🤓☝️"

[@dddd-uk4vn]

no its a special kind of ugly, even 35k cars arent nearly as bad

[@aiv4873]

I think the issue wasn't styling its price. The EQS featured the same tech found in the C class. Then BMW and Tesla did really well on their cars, offering more range, more tech, more performance, for less money. Mercedes just didn't read the market correctly. I would've bought a EQS if it was E class priced, not at 100k though.

[@auntbarbara5576]

EVs arent zero emissions, they are remote emissions

[@nickaoke]

Trust me, this isn't as bad as the EV versions of Dodge Charger/Challenger will be.

[@Fourtune1]

Music is way too loud on this

[@alanwayte432]

I thought Americans did not understand sarcasm

[@billthecat7536]

Background music was WAY too loud!

[@rilesthegiles]

Yeah please repost video with less music

[@markotrieste]

Agree

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oops, my bad

[@jeffmcdonald101]

@@LogicallyAnswered Yep, not here for "hype" videos. Keep it serious and technical without distractions.

[@davidomarcolwellmijares4035]

Youre wrong, f150 lightning didnt sold in the us very well.....

[@bondgabebond4907]

I think owners of the F150 lighting consider it no more than an expensive accessory. It's basically useless as a truck for truck work.

[@skierpage]

​@@bondgabebond4907 2 to 9 kW of onboard power supply for work sites is very useful. Many contractors don't drive long distances or tow much in the Lightning is fine for them.

[@TomK-ti8kp]

That’s the one truck that should’ve sold well. But, it’s too expensive.

[@speedingoffence]

"Current customers don't buy cars with spare tires" -an industry that doesn't sell cars with spare tires

[@nat.serrano]

Eqs is the biggest piece of shit I ever driven. Complicated, so many buttons

[@martinfobert9407]

If you gave a damn about the environment you wouldn't be buying a 100k luxury sedan. Get a bus pass.

[@dquzmanovic]

If you give a damn about the environment you would keep your car and instead invest 50 of your 100k in renewables and with the rest help the poor and sick.

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

I don't give a damn about the environment and I drive an old toyota :D

[@skierpage]

Sure, we can all make better choices to reduce environmental harm. But someone who "has to" drive a lot and buys a 95 MPG equivalent Mercedes-Benz EQS will cause substantially less environmental harm over the life of the car than if they bought a 24 MPG S500 gasser.

[@Sir.VicsMasher]

They need to put the 4.0L V8 back in their AMG C63/ E63.

[@graveborne8724]

I think they are. They sold next to zero 4 cylinder AMG's so the idea is going back to a V8. I read this about a week ago.

[@thecompanioncube4211]

Emission standards be like: force everyone to downsize engines while everyone chasing bottom dollar and offloading manufacturing to Asian countries and mining lithium for batteries increasing emissions in process.

[@skierpage]

​@@thecompanioncube4211 you are utterly lacking in common sense if you think the emissions from making a 1/2-ton recyclable battery pack are remotely equivalent to the emissions from mining, refining, shipping, spilling, then BURNING the 5+ tons of fossil fuel that it saves over 100,000 miles. Every recent analysis agrees an EV is better for the environment than a comparable gasser; the only debate is whether it pulls ahead after 30,000, 15,000, or only 10,000 miles of driving

[@mynameisnobody211]

Keep believing untruths if it makes you feel better. EV’s are vastly worse for the environment.

[@skierpage]

@@mynameisnobody211 every recent study says you're making stuff up. Cambridge/Exeter/Nijmeggen 2020, Eindhoven 2020, ICCT 2021, iHS Markit 2021 all conclude an EV recharged from the current grid is better for the environment then burning tons of gasoline. The only question is whether it pulls ahead after 30,000, 15,000, or only 10,000 miles of driving.

[@ucheucheuche]

Time to buy an EQS on the cheap 😝

[@JohnWiku]

Not even if they'd paid me 😂😂 Imagine spending money on it 😂😂

[@SymetricRaven]

You’d be paying out the ass for maintenance. Not worth the cost. 2016 c class out of warranty. AC repair 3000. Had enough.

[@larryc1616]

The maintenance and repairs will not be cheap 🤭

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Did you forget the hopeless unreliability part??

[@inathoiehohs8551]

rent it for a week lol

[@jdalbion]

The look has nothing to do with sales. Tesla's cyber truck is an example. It looks like garbage, and yet still people buy it. They're hipsters. Meanwhile, people aren't buying that many Mercedes EVs, because Mercedes customers aren't fans of EVs.

[@Aggie4life77]

No bro, it was the looks. It doesn’t have that Mercedes presence on the outside and look like a stretched out bean!

[@jdalbion]

@@Aggie4life77 And it's EV. Garbage. Audi, Mercedes & BMW customers, are not EV fans. Meanwhile, hipsters are Tesla fans, and they will buy the most ugly car ever, but it's tEsLa. If they wanted quality, and they don't care about look, they would buy that ugly Mercedes car, not ugly tesla car. But it's not about "look".

[@Aggie4life77]

@@jdalbion Dude, EV’s are the future plan and simple. I don’t know why you dumb but is sitting over there thinking it’s some type of fad. You know what, think what you want, I will like to see you go buy a brand new ICE vehicle after 2035! You’re talking about hipsters. It’s f’ing government regulations!

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

The Cybertruck isn't purely ugly though. Its also striking. The Mercedes is just ugly. Some people like the look of the Cybertruck. Nobody likes the Mercedes.

[@caracallaavg]

They've sold like 4k CyberTruck's judging by the number of recalled cars

[@emmanueldidier7586]

The problem with the Mercedes EV’s are not that the cars are bad, it is that no one wants them anymore! Too expensive, too unpractical and most countries don’t have the infrastructure to support them! Tesla however has built the network to help supporting their cars. There are also cheap to make because they are totally minimalist, no button anywhere! Everyone else in Europe is getting out of the EV market. Teslas also have insane amounts of power and are extremely cheap on the used car market which make them popular with kids and are quickly replacing the Dodge Chargers and Challengers here in the US.

[@jordans5792]

Ford understands its core demographics? Lmao 🤣

[@NONO-hz4vo]

Their core demographic is trucks and judging by the F-Series sales it is hard to argue they don't understand them.

[@jordans5792]

@@NONO-hz4vo there are still hundreds if not thousands of brand new ICE 2022 F-series trucks still on dealer lots and they’ve halted construction on new EVs.. I wouldn’t exactly say sales are booming by any means. If it wasn’t for fleet sales ford would be completely SOL

[@NONO-hz4vo]

@jordanschellhase2952 They still sell more than anyone else and fleet sales are next to zero profit. You can't argue They are at least doing something right to be selling as many as they are.

[@jagersama9792]

​@@NONO-hz4vo They are mainly selling ICE vehicles while losing quite some money per EV sale, wouldn't say that's exactly a win for the EV department.

[@NONO-hz4vo]

@jagersama9792 that is true. Almost no one is doing well with the EVs. Probably need a few more battery refinements before the capacity and charge rate is good enough to sway people.

[@TitelSinistrel]

The thing not really addressed in this video is that MB really half-a**ed all of them when it comes to the EV parts. On launch there were THE WORST performing EVs on the market while being also the most expensive. Low range, low power, small batteries, not particularly practical and costing 10-20% more than the comparable e-trons or teslas. Anyone cross-shopping them would rightly put them at the bottom of their shopping list. Nickel and dimming customers for extra range or power for a monthly sum also didn't help. The 100% touch interiors are now after a few years making automakers realize people still want buttons. They learned the hard way that just because it says MB on the front it doesn't mean it's an instant buy for wealthy customers.

[@Supreme-King]

I genuinely don't know anyone who owns a Mercedes or BMW and cares about aerodynamics.

[@miscstuff7473]

Great content. I am wondering where these depreciation numbers are coming from. If I go on to Autotrader, the asking price for a used EQS is nowhere near 40% lower than new. How did you get these numbers, and where can I buy such a depreciated car (in reasonable condition from a reliable shop that support my purchase if I need service, etc)? I understand the trade-in value may be terrible, but that isn't where I can purchase a used car with such great depreciation. Pls help me find these discounts :)

[@somedudewithakeyboard]

I’ve seen an all black EQS on the road and thought it looked stylish and fresh. That’s coming from a BMW person. Complimenting a rival?

[@peekaboo1575]

Why get a EV when you could get a V8 or a V12?

[@nihilriv3r]

Because with my EV I’ve spent roughly $700-$1000 a year on total registration, maintenance, and charging costs. My Pontiac Grand Prix with a V6 cost me at least $120+ a month in fuel costs before anything else. The biggest reason though, is that I’m a tech guy and not a car guy. EV’s fit much more with what I am personally into. My stepdad is a total car guy and has done mechanic work as a hobby his whole life, so of course he should get an ICE, it’s what he’s into.

[@divitkarekar5803]

i'm young and fairly new to cars and have rarely driven an ice car in my life and i don't get it when people say they want these buttons and knobs and car's machine noise and vibrations my cost for driving an ev is really very low, maintenance is low as well,driving and maintaining an ice is way more expensive EVs acceleration at any given price point is way more than an equivalent priced ice car,and i really love fast acceleration

[@lDavidl]

@@divitkarekar5803 Wait until it's time for a battery replacement. EVs hit you hard with that cost instead of requiring small continuous investments. Also, EVs feel dead. That is no fun to car people (which, to be clear, I am not).

[@edward_lee]

Ev batteries last longer than ice engines.. so take your pick, a bad battery or bad engine

[@rainbowshulacorns3666]

@@nihilriv3ryou forgot insurance

[@Ah-sun]

Wheni first saw the eqs, it looked exactly like my 2012 honda civic. I was utterly shocker. It was destined to fail

[@hansovic7]

Hey bro just a little rec from me, please refrain from making the background music so loud that you are bearly understandable (e.g. minute 12). Other than that great video as always, you are easily one of my favorite KZbinr creators right now 💪

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Oops, my bad man

[@Bosko57]

I disagree. The EQS styling is a matter of taste, but the other EQ models failed because they were terrible values compared to the range, interior space and price of a Tesla model Y, because they were rushed to production and had to use existing ICE platforms. Finally the other EQ models are barely distinguishable from their ICE counterparts, so the bad styling argument for those other models is a non starter.

[@rehedi3056]

Tesla doesn't have any iPad . It is a tablet screen designed by Tesla and has nothing to do with Apple and iPad. U mentioned at 04:50 it has an iPad. Which is incorrect.

[@johnpoldo8817]

I bought an EQS 580 with rear wheel steering as a replacement to a Lucid GT. The Lucid was loaded with bugs and grossly over priced at $155K so told them to take it back. Already owning a Tesla model S, there were no other luxury EVs to consider than EQS and we had a long history with MB. I don’t mind the egg shape because range is paramount, not economy. I get about 380 mi range on average and sometimes over 400. A big chrome, fake front grill is a turn-off. Give us a light bar and star on the hood. Their rear wheel steering is fabulous and will look for it in our next EV. No more gas cars. Hyper screen is great because spouse can make adjustments more easily. Mercedes standard autopilot on highway is better than Tesla because it does smooth lane changes. I hate the stop/start button and want walk-away locking like Tesla.

[@Akumagits]

just to inform you, the title is a bit clickbaity. MB cancelled their MB.EA Large EV platform which is suppose to launch in 2028. The MB.EA Med is still there. the MB.EA Large is for the S-class, GLS, E class and GLE. if you wanted a C-class, CLC or the EQB that is in the MB.EA MED. They are still going forward with their current EV platform EVA2. which the current EQE and EQS are using. a simple websearch could have brought up the articles that would bring up the relevant information. if you want to say "MB's EV platform demise" make sure its all their EV platforms, not basing it in SEO headlines.

[@danmancas2724]

I have a EQS 580.......ordered just when MB started the production. I don't think MB took a good decision to switch from EQS. This kind of uncertain behaviour probably is not good. If you take a new direction in design you need to keep it and build on it. I am sure the aerodynamic shapes will exist in future for car design. Thus, MB which now go back to old design will need probably in the future to approach again the aerodynamic shapes. Such changes will cost enough MB to be less conpetitive and finally insignificant.

[@jp325abn]

If I were king, I would have EV's as a different brand as in Chevy and Buick. The new brand might be a disaster but at least the name "MB" would have kept it's street cred.

[@vandur2322]

Fuel efficiency doesn't matter in an ICE car but it relates directly to range in an EV, which IS a huge deal. They were between a rock and a hard place. The hard place being a fanatical EV cult.

[@SteveN-nk9xy]

Mercedes and other car companies were invited to a government meeting hosted by Jim Jones, they served big glasses of grape Kool aid.

[@germancarluv]

"Electric koolaid"

[@s.tunafish]

At least they understood their mistake and are now actively trying to fix it. That's something!

[@rmyrie5963]

They are trying to fix it by Axeing it 🪓🪓🪓 .. You have child like comprehension

[@svenlabots1869]

Who wants any Mercedes from the last 20 years anyway? 😣

[@rojer9]

strange that EQC is not mentioned. i recently traded in my 2017 GLC for a 2022 EQC and have been pretty happy overall.

[@skierpage]

Mentioning Cybertruck in 2019 as a cause for anything is stupid. The Model 3 and Y _are_ the boom, and Mercedes doesn't sell pickup trucks in the USA! Its problem started with the Tesla Model S in 2009, a premium sport sedan with better performance than any Mercedes and some great tech that burns no gas. The EQS is a better car, but not much better.

[@15DEAN1995]

i wonder if this ceo is the reason we ended up with a 4 cylinder c63, as far as ive heard that decision has gone poorly with customers as the car isnt selling well. plus the chinese (everyone else too) are confused by them selling cars with the 53 badge that have a 6 cylinder then the 63 badge which is a 4 cylinder.

[@madanto2394]

The jdm will give the feedback- The Japanese love their motors

[@arkaroy4308]

These EV disaster news gives me hope to be able buy my dream car with a V engine one day. The tech and thinking about environment is ok but there is a word called 'feeling' which is missing in these cars. I hope in the future somebody fix the issue by giving both and hopefully brings back physical buttons and knobs like Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolls Royce.

[@mistermood4164]

even if EV become mainstream ICE vehicles will still be able to be bought.

[@Lucas_Antar]

The thing is everyone with eco cars and cars just for transport need a EV or public transport. Everyone who like cars and driving will either get fast EVs or used/niche new ICE cars.

[@larryc1616]

I love the feeling of the 20k rpm of the Plaid baby! ⚡️🇺🇲

[@delbroox]

It’s not a disaster. This guy is bending the story to fit his narrative. Mercedes EV sales increased by 61% in 2023.

[@codyrap95]

Maybe we just need to grow up. I also like everything about older cars, design, buttons, engine sound, apparent simplicity, metal on metal, but with a bit of emotional intelligence you can quickly realize that it's mostly nostalgia and the ideas and "feelings" that YOU have assigned and attached to them.

[@thumperjdm]

@0:45 That shape immediately killed the 1996 Ford Taurus, just like it killed this Mercedes-Benz. People won't drive an egg.

[@stevemartin7464]

True I suppose; we eat eggs, not drive them.

[@chiefdenis]

Ola kallenius will be the death of Mercedes, they've made so many questionable decisions in motorsports, amg division, design, engine selection etc. since zetsche left, i don't even recognize the current Mercedes.

[@chrischester321]

what's funny is that BMW just has an EV version of their ICE cars (i3, i4, i5,i7) and they dont sell any better. I think people are just sick of legacy automakers trying to catch up to the NKOTB. People want something new and innovated from the ground up

[@rtothec1234]

Think you gotta dial down the music volume like 20% while you are talking.

[@jeffmcdonald101]

Dial it to zero on channels meant to be serious technical analysis. It undermines it with subliminal stimulation to create "hype".

[@The-Cat]

@@jeffmcdonald101 I agree ZERO is the absolute sweetspot

[@user-eg3zs6oi7c]

we think HE would know how youtube works by now... this is not a music video. let's hear the guy talk instead of some random bs music used to fill bg noise...give me a break. this is why smart people are really stup id in real life.

[@stefanc4520]

Volkswagen has an extremely prominent "V" that you absolutely DO pronounce!

[@abqehobener2636]

I prefer the eq design by a lot over others like BMWs cars or porches

[@riffmondo9733]

ESG driven decisions. Not to mention the CEO’s wife is involved with an environmental group and is an activist and pushed him to take the company all electric. But this is not unusual as nepotism has always been rampant within the Daimler organization.

[@Ottobon]

I have no stake in this but like the way it looks while hating all the bubbly CUVs and SUVs that sell like hotcakes. That said it could of looked better. I just think blaming aero alone isnt the right move, however blaming single mindedness can be. It looks like a aero Honda Accord with Merc badges on it, fine by me but i can see some disliking. But please never even try to joke that this thing is anywhere as ugly as a Tesla Model X.

[@cobaltblue1975]

The sad part is this is nothing new. Mercedes has been churning out ugly cars since the 90’s. Boring and homogenized.

[@21stcenturyozman20]

Yep. Nowhere near as good looking as pre-1990s Benzes. Just more jellybeans.

[@mynameisnobody211]

Americans should know all about what an ugly car looks like with their vast experience.

[@Black8Light]

What are you talking about? Mercedes selled 2023 60% more ev than 2022. They also sold more Premium Cars than 2022 and more Cars in total.

[@samrai7275]

i actually find EQ series looks great. youtube creators can say anything...

[@boukm3n]

11:32 BRO WHAT. MY COMMENT GOT INTO THE VIDEO?!?! Hahaaaaaa I really do hate the jellybean tho

[@Deepthought-42]

As a regular purchaser of new pMercs for many decades, I can’t stand the iPad interior iPad styling, poor ergonomics of distracting touch screens instead of knobs and buttons and subscription based services and Hey Mercedes that that invade my privacy. I dont believe the greenwashing it is more environmentally friendly to keep an older vehicle running than to scrap it and build a new one. I have switched to buying 15 plus year old low mileage classics that can be maintained by my garage at a fraction of the price. I have the space and have three cars for the price of one that I enjoy driving according to my mood.

[@robertpopek6063]

It's sad that the car industry doesn't foster the audience to take the egg - shape as a natural car design. Look at the airplane industry, they don't produce bricks for flying.

[@MohamadAlwazzan]

i don't like egg design

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Who does? Hahaha

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Trying to beat Tesla? Jesus, talk about aiming low.

[@skierpage]

Model S remains an excellent premium sedan for the money, Model Y is the best selling car in the world, and Model 3 is an excellent midsize sedan for the money. It's trendy to dump on Tesla for many reasons, but 1.8 million car buyers bought one last year instead of a gasser. Car companies were right to panic over the threat from Tesla, and now even more so the threat from Chinese EV manufacturers.

[@JFirn86Q]

Yeah the EQS just looks so ridiculous - was so disappointed to see it and can't even consider it as a purchase. I just can't get over how dumb it looks.

[@htimsid]

What I don't understand is how a brand like Daimler-Benz has gone so far with all the gaudy, gimmicky features, like the showy exterior lighting, illuminated badges and grilles. the multi-coloured interior lights, showers of the three pointed stars (e.g. in grilles and lights and wheels) etc. It all seems so frivolous, infantile even. It should be about the engineering and that WAS the brand!

[@BlindMango]

The interior of that thing looks like trash, like a child's play toy, there is nothing luxury about that interior lmao

[@mrk131324]

Matter of fact, EVs don‘t need a grill, so their design can be completely different. Also: The EQS is actually an awesome car!

[@texasranger24]

Here is the deal: Germany isn't a free market capitalist country anymore. It doesn't matter what customers want. Germany is outright socialist. Let me explain why: the government quota is around 70%. So 70% of the economy isn't decided by people, but by government spending decisions. And the other 30% are highly regulated anyways. I'm sorry, but that isn't capitalism anymore. That's worse than east germany, the GDR, was under "Communism". That's 5 year plan bad. In 1870 the highly militaristic emperor had less than 10%. EVs are a fad, a super bad idea that some bureaucrat made when he had no clue, but did it anyways. It's not what customers or free manufacturers want. It's a Trabi.

[@At_the_races]

Mercedes are offering 0% finance and MASSIVE discounts on EV’s and they still can’t get rid of them.

[@gargoyle7863]

Ditching the EVs now is a big mistake for Mercedes. The growth in this segment might be slower than expected but is inevitable. EVs have their use case and customers.

[@nattydread3846]

Hydrogen and Water powered engines are the future.

[@vognmandpedersen8144]

Happy EQS owner myself. Great long distance EV, almost done 100 Tkm in less than a year with zero issues. Very cheap to run compared to my diesel cars. Within a year my household will only have EVs, can't imagine ever buying a fossilburner again. I would have to be stupid to do so....

[@ronny332]

One of our neighbors works for Mercedes here in my hometown (in Germany) and of course he drives a current EV. Always when he enters our Cul-de-sac and I'm on our driveway close to my VW Passat with an age of 10 years, I think "damn, the Passat is such a nice looking car". Don't know what they thought, the strict and clear design line is gone and the look is anywhere cloned from organic looking asian cars together with some parts from "the future". Strange, very strange.

[@obesetuna3164]

These are bland times. Back in the day, I can remember when a Mercedes looked like a Mercedes, a Jaguar looked like a Jaguar etc. Bland times indeed.

[@alwaysright3718]

I own an AMG a real one with a V8... all other AMG's are fake...

[@theseb1979]

As a life long AMG and Mercedes fan and current owner of 2 awesome ICE AMGs (that I bought brand new) and a Hyundai ioniq 5 EV for everyday grocery shopping let me tell you why I have no interest in Merc’s EV offerings. They are disturbingly ugly, bland and astronomically over priced

[@albertassely6230]

The new designed s, e and c classes are so ugly when compared to the previous models. They went from being the best looking of the luxury German lineup to the least attractive

[@Jeez001]

EQSh%t happened seriously the suv looks like crappy version of Caravan 😂

[@wrends]

informed customers are not adopting evs!

[@skierpage]

People duped by fossil fuel misinformation won't acknowledge how terrible burning tons of gasoline in a combustion engine is for the environment. If you drive more than ~4,000 miles a year, buy an EV!

[@cosmicblox934]

@@skierpage even if all pertroleum cars and vehicles were switched to electric tommorow, it would only result in a 29% reduction in emmisions, what's your point?

[@wrends]

Look it up, EVs are a chemical disaster!

[@skierpage]

@@cosmicblox934 and 29% would be huge! We need to rapidly reduce emissions from all sectors of the economy to reduce the multiple worsening harms from global warming. Cars and the rest of land transportation are relatively easy; agriculture, air travel, construction, shipping, and many industrial processes don't have low-carbon alternatives that are close to the same cost as emissions-heavy business as usual.

[@moafwaz5563]

early gang.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks for being early man!

[@_Mike.P]

A little less early gang.

[@physturs]

I think range and efficiency matter. With high aerodynamic you get higher range without incresing battery capacity and lowering the cost. The first question ev buyers ask is what is the range.

[@YachtReport]

The interior of a car cannot be ‘insane’.

[@Bucknasfri70]

it looked ugly and was super overpriced for a Mercedes. quality of Mercedes is pure rubbish now. overpriced junk

[@samuellaurencin7411]

I rented one and the hyperscreen is an adjusment but didnt take long to get used to it. 20year old me would have cared more about the outside lack of luxury appeal but the 40 year old me doesnt care as much since im spending more time inside than outside. With the upgraded interior, it definitely feels like a step in the future in a good way. I also dont hate the egg shape but i was also an early adopter of the CLA which started their more egg focused design style. 50k for one after driving it seems like a steal but leasing may still be the best route for most people. Thx for the video.