Why America Is Struggling With EVs

[@lesliegweir]

Sure, take away the EV incentives, as long as you take away all the tax subsidies for the oil industry.

[@rui569]

fair

[@Villani_AV]

I love when they said there was no governmental assistance in the oil industry 😂😂😂

[@superspeeder]

Subsidizing the oil industry is analogous to subsidizing the electricity grid - the energy source, NOT the vehicles that use it. 😉 If electricity costs too much to store (batteries), that’s just a sign the technology isn’t ready yet. Once batteries are cheap, safe and reliable the market will shift on its own. If you want to create resistance to anything, subsidize, politicize and mandate it. Poof, instant problems.

[@digitalkov]

I don't recall any government subsidies to buy gasoline cars 😂😂😂 Stop confusing energy source and the product that uses the energy. Electricity as energy source is subsidized. But there is no subsidy to buy electric chain saw. 😂

[@steveb796]

Well the ice car manufacturers have been subsidized and bailed out over and over.

[@Steelers-rk3ig]

Weird I didn’t see one word about the #1 EV producer in America? Wonder why?

[@rationalist8805]

Mentioned @2:00 but agreed - not really mentioned in this coverage.

[@ziploc2000]

I think the idea was to talk about infrastructure more than a particular EV manufacturer, but they did seem to miss the fact that Tesla has a widespread infrastructure than they have opened to many other makers.

[@jake-ly]

Cobalt free batteries exist; LFP. Also cobalt is a part of petroleum refining. It CAN be removed from EVs, but CANT be removed from ICE vehicles.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

who cares...it's a scam.

[@Neojhun]

@@michaeljohnson4947 WTF You are literally be scammed being fed falsehoods which defy chemistry facts. You've been programmed to call anything you don't like a scam, even when it's Factual Truth.

[@arleneallen8809]

Don't need to completely eliminate cobalt. The big USA OEMs such as GM, Ford, Tesla, Stellantis all get nothing but verified cobalt sources in their batteries. Perhaps some OEMs in the world are still buying from sketchy DRC suppliers, but that doesn't mean we need to drop cobalt. Short range EVs can use LFP batteries. High performance still need NMC variants.

[@89five3five]

@@michaeljohnson4947 So facts don’t matter if it doesn’t support your worldview?

[@michaeljohnson4947]

@@89five3five Facts are fact....ask Hertz how EVs worked for them.

[@tannerroberstsonski2022]

I love the criticism of EVs saying they won’t solve climate change and then turning around and doing nothing to solve climate change

[@JensSchraeder]

That’s because climate change isn’t real. 😅

[@billybobbob3003]

TRUE FACT CHECK THE CLIMATE HAS BEEN CHANGING BEFORE MAN EXISTED ITS ALL A BUNCH OF BS THEse AZZHOLES ARE JUST TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING NOTHING MORE!

[@rp9674]

As always, they have critiques but no better solution

[@usmcsaxoki]

Yep. There's no one solution and there's no such thing as a "green" car. However, EVs are decidedly "greener" over their lives than ICE vehicles. Every little bit helps.

[@mchristr]

When you say "climate change" do you mean catastrophic, human-induced, global warming? IOW, it must be proven the we are going through a warming period that is beyond the normal earthly cycles. Then it must be shown that human activity is the deciding factor and that more C02 is detrimental. Then the prognosticators must dust off their crystal balls (modeling methodology) and accurately predict the future. I'm open to the best argument for "climate change" but thus far haven't heard anything convincing. A propositional statement repeated innumerable times doesn't create facts.

[@davidcruz-ne9bl]

Why did you pick experts to interview that act like tesla doesn’t exist?

[@philipgrice1026]

Exactly! I have to assume Motor Trend is scared to lose all the oil industry advertising dollars they harvest annually. The US establishment, i.e. the wealthy individuals and corporations, along with the lame stream media, are spreading FUD. If Washington invested in educating the American public instead of gifting subsidies to the oil industry, the USA could see EV adoption closer to countries like Norway and Sweden when new car sales of EV exceed 80%.

[@tv-ld3wv]

🎯

[@Name-kd5jj]

Tesla would probably sue them.

[@SoCalVipers]

That was my thought the whole time. The solution is simple. You don't need to be as smart as Elon Musk, just smart enough to copy everything Tesla does. The only reason I was willing to buy a Tesla in 2016 was because of the Supercharger network. Now, 8 years later, NO ONE learned from Tesla. It's pretty awesome to have a 1000HP family sedan on clear roads, and it's also great to have a car that can drive itself in miserable traffic.

[@paulsandgren8625]

BC Tesla is non union.

[@tedg1609]

Wait, the EV growth rate is 18% annually, and the press is making that look like a crisis ? Fossil cars have negative growth rates (!).

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

U S has cheap gas,186 countries doesn't have there own oil so EV is thr only car if they buy new

[@mrkennyj]

☝Now you UNDERSTAND WHY the PROPAGANDA is ramping up...

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Yup, the hybrids are growing the fastest.

[@HeathRS]

@@SirishShrestha-w6zyet it cost me 3x as much to drive per mile to drive my gas car. I think we should be able to make our own choices, but I made mine already.

[@SirishShrestha-w6z]

@@HeathRS yea it's still cheaper that ur cheap gas but here where oil should be imported,,the gas cost literally pays the EMI of EV it's 5 dollar for below normal ,like contamination with others cheap things. .And yet u guys complain abt how bad IsUs

[@crooksnchase]

REP.Bruce Westerman sure can twist the facts. Too bad they didnt call him out on it right there.

[@justinschultz4325]

I did find it funny after he was first featured yammering on on about how he didn't like EV incentives, the next voice over was about oil and gas incentives. Well done Motortrend.

[@bryanhaen6750]

If more people experience EVs more people will buy them. They are so much better and way more convenient for most people. If you regularly drive more than 300 miles a day an EV may not be for you.

[@andrewclark6682]

It's also about charging. Many people live in apartments or don't have a dedicated parking spot where it can be charged. They definitely are convenient for some people, and those people probably already have one. Winter also plays a big factor, bringing a "range of 300 miles" down to a more realistic 200 when it's 0 degrees out. This can be a deal breaker for many people in the north.

[@bryanhaen6750]

@andrewclark6682 yes I live in MN range is definitely less in the cold

[@Neojhun]

@@andrewclark6682 "range of 300 miles" down to a more realistic 200 when it's 0 degrees" ABSURD Deranged LIES! With pre-heating on charging power it's more like 15% loss soo 255 miles is very easily achievable. FYI BEVs are popular in the ARTCIC CIRCLE.

[@patrickcarey393]

@@andrewclark6682 My 120 unit apartment building has installed 12 chargers in the garage and can install more when needed.

[@Bentsi2002]

I got many days that requires me to stop and charge mid day, tesla superchargers are great.

[@MrSCRIBR]

Asking a guy from Arkansas for a forward looking option.. really guiding the conversation down the middle, huh?

[@Charlie-go6eb]

Have a problem with Arkansas. Got it, all forward thinking comes out of places like CA. How’s that working out..

[@wolfsf]

When America can't compete with someone else, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault and it's ALWAYS due to someone else's unfair practice! 😮

[@borshardsd]

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Fair point. The tariffs are gonna backfire spectacularly.

[@Western_Decline]

China started investing in EVs 20 years ago, and $100 billion in EV subsidies across 10 years. USA spent over $100 billion on Ukraine. We’re run by morons.

[@TogetherinParis]

Yeah, tariffs are taxes on America's poor people, causing misallocation of resources by capitalists, causing economic distortions that lower overall efficiency, resource allocation, and wealth. Socialism fails, fails, again.

[@anton_grahn]

Some other government subsidies EVs/EV companies: 🤬🤬🤬 The US buys out car makers out of bankruptcy and subsidise EV purchases: 🤗🤗🤗

[@pcnz]

Just want to add for those not aware, that there are cobalt free EV batteries now. LFP batteries.

[@mcsike7264]

And you use cobalt to refine gasoline so idk tf they are judging evs for when they use it more than evs do😂

[@mcsike7264]

@nothingtoseaheardammit better than all the oil spills in oceans remember at a oil refinery in the ocean leaked at the ocean was burning for like a week and all thoses videos of wild life coverd with oil at least lithium can be recycled so we dont have to mine much

[@michaeljohnson4947]

so who cares?

[@Neojhun]

Not just now, LiFePO4 is one of the older battery chemistry. I think I first held an early LFP prismatic brick in 2004.

[@Neojhun]

@@michaeljohnson4947 WTF Why are you spamming the same simple script. Are you being paid to do that?

[@Smokey-s4w]

No Roadkill, no Roadworthy Rescues, no Hotrod , no Engine Masters, no Faster with Finnegan, no subscription.

[@rpracingproducts]

Yes let's just push propaganda about EV's and not make any content that made Motortrend what it is. I'm starting to think these videos are subsidized.

[@mikehill33]

EVs with 800 plus combined horsepower, but less than 300 mile range is not worth it.

[@legostud]

I know, that’s why every Tesla has over 300 miles of range.

[@mech-E]

Then don’t subsidize fossil fuel companies or automakers

[@hereigoagain5050]

We do. For instance, there is a percentage depletion tax break for oil companies.

[@digitalkov]

Petroleum products are used in tons of places including materials used in making EVs.. 😂 Without fossil fuel subsidies, prices of plastic will soar, meaning everything we use will be more expensive..

[@alexanderh.999]

Tax break and subsidy are different. Get your facts straight before you talk

[@TogetherinParis]

@@alexanderh.999 Went to graduate school in economics. Proposed QE to the fed. Money is money. If one industry doesn't have to pay taxes, it is money in their pockets from the rest of us who do have to pay taxes. When everybody drove dead dinosaur cars, oil depletion allowances that made gas cheaper spread the benefit better. We needed to not subsidize/incentivize oil to have a natural economy, but the government saw the need for surprise war demand for oil, etc. that made such subsidies wise. Current counter subsidy for EVs diminish oil demand and encourage cleaner air, so spreading that benefit out somewhat but it's still unfair. Ideally, no subsidies would diminish expensive, tax-paid government involvement. Government involvement means distortions and creates problems that create more problems, like this debate.

[@mech-E]

@@alexanderh.999 subsidies are payments, tax breaks, or other economic support by the government to an industry or company to provide incentive to do something. Usually to provide services or products where they would not otherwise be at least with the same circumstances. Thanks

[@garydmercer]

Bunch of nonsense. The oil industry billion dollar ads clearly are working to benefit their industry. I drive a used 2021 Tesla model 3 and it has replaced my Subaru just fine. No hiccups, no issues and no complaints. I’m saving $100 in gas each month. No oil changes, etc and the battery is in great condition as I follow charging guidelines. This piece is a hit job against EVs. Who paid for it? Oil companies?

[@martalli]

The oil industry gets plenty of subsidies too

[@CC86CA]

100% this is propaganda disguised as unbiased journalism. Interviews with only anti-EV conservative politicians. Skewing reporting on cobalt mining without showing viewers the whole story. Shame on MotorTrend.

[@tvguide4khv]

90% chargers needed is in city street light pole level1-2 chargers -- no big resources needed. 70-80% of EVs are parked at daytime and can soak sun energy.

[@snoreberry1786]

Where do you suggest the millions of Americans who do not own a home charge their EV's?

[@BERZERKERSV4]

Subaru?. That says it all..How many cats do you own and when your battery needs replacement within 10 years then what?.. or it needs repairs..or how about that depreciation?..or how about those children In The Congo digging with thier fingers for your raw materials ?. Absolute hypocrisy..

[@Sinmanx5]

Bruh why so much drama? Just drive whatever the heck makes you happy.

[@usmcsaxoki]

Couldn't agree more!

[@rhettdemille4404]

I think a lot of people hold stocks in the EV industry. That is one major reason.

[@DreDresChapters]

You somehow literally just convinced someone to follow uneducated ethics lmao. You’re the person that thinks obesity is ok for the human body because you’re still beautiful 😂😭

[@i6power30]

No, driving doesn't just affect the drivers. I am a jogger and hate to inhale your tailpipe exhaust. I wish everyone would drive an EV so I don't have to hold my breath whenever you drive by.

[@JDMEXforme]

Also dont go offroad and run out of battery and then ask a gasoline Jeep for a pull out of there.

[@stephenstevens5746]

They forgot a big point. Most electric cars charge at home. They are comparing ICE cars vs EV. Ev dont need that many charging station.

[@tomtom9792]

what happen if you Dont have a home and live in an Apartment!

[@Aircam73]

@@tomtom9792 Since 70% of American don't live in an apartment there are plenty of places to charge. Also many apartments are installing EV chargers in their parking lots to make it easy to fuel.

[@tomtom9792]

@@Aircam73 well I live in an Apartment and so many people do in cali!!!

[@Aircam73]

@@tomtom9792 Cali has a new law that says all new apartments have to have charging stations. Also good for you but over 70% of cali doesn't live in apartments making fueling much more convenient and cheaper than going to the gas station. Especially when Cali gas is so high and about go get even higher. Enjoy your soon to be $6 gas and $80 fill ups. I will continue to fill my EV up for less than $10.

[@kcdesignconcepts5216]

​​@@Aircam73enjoy your cheap electric for now. Once there is more EVs on the road , and the power companies know you need electric to get back and forth to work, the prices will go up. Higher demand means higher prices. A century ago you could buy a gallon of gas for 5 cents. I personally hope there will be more EVs on the road. Competition for the oil companies will lead to lower gas prices.

[@pierredelecto7069]

An american company makes the top selling car in the world, which also happens to be an EV. The model Y. Ford and Chevy cant compete but Tesla is doing just fine.

[@JensSchraeder]

Then why have they lost so much money? Investors will eventually grow weary of the overpriced stock that is Tesla.

[@mikelesh9513]

If no federal $7,500 tax incentive then no buyers.

[@richardfolden3860]

@@JensSchraeder lost money? They literally bank $2 to $3 billion every quarter, and they have almost 0 debt. What gave you such a silly idea?

[@BERZERKERSV4]

@@pierredelecto7069 just as Fisker, Lordstown, Canoo, Ford, Nissan , Lucid , Rivian and VW how their share prices are doing...buahhaaa

[@Bentsi2002]

​@@mikelesh9513 There was no incentive on my model S when I bought it, replaced a mercedes S class, that tesla is the best daily I ever had.

[@shawnwhite2572]

I bought a new Equinox EV yesterday and I love it! Much more pleasant to drive than the noisy four cylinder model.

[@johnbrisson1965]

Awesome! I just purchased mine and it is fantastic and fits my lifestyle perfectly! Love it!

[@Charlie-go6eb]

Noisy 4 cylinder model. Riiigghhhttttttt……

[@john-michaelhege7280]

Hope that you have fun on road trips waiting for your car to charge and wait till winter and your car won’t hold a charge.

[@shawnwhite2572]

@ I drove it 300 miles home with no issue. Stopped once to charge while I ate lunch, and was on my way. I live in the South so winters aren't an issue for me.

[@msw7021]

It has already depreiated 30%, good luck selling that thing

[@snoreberry1786]

The US gov't wants you to drive an EV, just as long as it's not an affordable foreign made EV.

[@scottmohrman]

You briefly mentioned the Tesla Supercharger Network without saying it is national wide, America’s largest electric vehicle charging network or that its reliability is above 99%. Poor or biased research.

[@bowez9]

How many Superchargers are in the rural areas, ie Montana? Or in the middle of the country away from the Interstates?

[@JIMMY_NEMESIS]

China doesnt build "cheap product**" China is cheap to build "product"

[@Cave_Monkeys]

Everything china stands for is a failure. They have a problem with trying to be like other countries but can't make good quality

[@herbys68]

To be very clear, THERE IS NO EV MANDATE FOR FAMILIES. That's misinformation from EV opponents. There is one in some European countries, but none has even been proposed in the US. So nothing to get rid of there.

[@Ultimatebubs]

States like California would disagree with you, where they are trying to outlaw the sale of new ICE vehicles by 2035.

[@I_Eat_Meat12345]

There is no "official" government mandate, however, when you outlaw all other options, it becomes a de facto mandate.

[@DaBinChe]

So you telling me that states like CA requiring all cars be ZEV by 2035 is not a mandate?

[@herbys68]

@DaBinChe that will be a mandate in 2035. There is no mandate today, nor any time soon.

[@DaBinChe]

@@herbys68 So you think over night from Dec. 31, 2034 to Jan. 1, 2035 it just go form ICE go EV?

[@CC-iq2pe]

Even with EV prices being about $10000> ICE cars, the cost of fuelling and maintenance on those same gas cars more than makes up for that in monthly costs to the consumer.

[@ziploc2000]

We recently bought a '22 Chevrolet Bolt for 20k with 13,500 miles on the clock. Looking for a similar ICE vehicle, a Honda Fit is about the same size, there's a 2020 Fit with 20k miles on the clock going for $19k, so essentially the same. But that gets 31 mpg in the city, and mine gets 4 miles/kWh, much cheaper to run. Then there's a $5k Clean Vehicle rebate in Oregon that we should get, and a 4k federal tax credit, so if we get both the Bolt only cost 11k.

[@windowsdown3684]

I love my EV and I’m a massive V8 fan and owner

[@pierredelecto7069]

I drive diesel trucks that weigh 150,000 lbs when towing. I still like ev's. They are cool. When my car dies of old age I may get a Tesla.

[@NicholasToutant]

Ev is straight trash there is nothing masculine about a ev. Be a man

[@Neojhun]

Same I'm a Holden HSV fanboy. It's the same reason why I like BEVs.

[@NicholasToutant]

@ real men have v8s my dude

[@housepianist]

Insecure men make comments like that

[@justinschultz4325]

Well done on this. The propulsion system of a car should not be divisive, but that's the imperfect world we live in.

[@MADMAX7330]

Okay fine, I'll get a Cybertruck for Christmas

[@B-RaDD]

I'll get 1 for myself and daughter.

[@Notakebacks-sy6ji]

You guys suck. How dare you cancel roadkill.

[@michaeljohnson4947]

What??? they killed Road Kill. Guess they putting a bunch of non gear heads in charge. No wonder they named Mercury as having the SUV of the year.

[@DeltaSierra426]

Roadkill, Roadkill Garage, Engine Masters, Dirt Everyday, Tony Angelo on Hot Rod Garage... most of MT now is a bunch of shows with try hards and laughable flashy and insanely impractical car and truck mods. I'm done. Sadly, I have to turn to mega corp Alphabet and their darling KZbin to watch anything I care about.

[@NonyoBusinessOriginal]

Yup, cancelled my subscription on mttv and their KZbin. Last video I will ever watch on mt. ,🐕‍🦺's

[@CyberHawk2024]

They killed roadkill so they can rave about EVs. Typical move 😢

[@mrknebel475]

Agreed

[@stevefrench4595]

This has turned into a team sport. Simple solution - don't mandate EV targets and don't subsidize EV prices. Let consumers choose and de-politicize it. People will move when the product is attractive

[@owenturnbull6424]

And remove tariffs on Chinese cars. Let's level the playing field.

[@racerx509]

The sale price of gasoline, as well as extracting and refining it has been massively subsidized for decades by the US government. We would have European level prices if not for petroleum subsidies.

[@MatthewBayard]

@@racerx509 thats the playing field ICE drivers don't even know they are on.

[@nexxusk]

And remove subsidies on oil and charge for pollution

[@JoshuasRecordings]

​@@owenturnbull6424It's not a level playing field if one country is using slave labor....

[@V8Supercar1]

EVs have 3 major problems that needs to be solved in order for them to really sell well. #1 They are too expensive. #2 The infrastructure just isn't anywhere near good enough right now. #3 They don't work well in the cold (range is too low).

[@Aircam73]

I can see why you are mad at EVs as one of the best selling EVs in the world which most EV buyer consider a camry is faster than most V8s. Also there are many EVs that are cheaper than the average price of a new car. The infestructure has made it so any new EV can travel anywhere in the country with no problems and with 100 chargers being added every day it becomes even easier to get where you are going. EV work better in the cold than any gas car. They turn on immediately and don't have any oil in their engines that turns to sludge. They can also be preconditioned in a garage and you don't have to wait for them or the engine to warm up before you can start going. They may lose a little range but that has gotten a lot better with only around 30% range loss and with most EVs coming with 300+ miles of range now it shouldn't be a problem. That is why Norway is now 70% EV.

[@V8Supercar1]

@Aircam73 300 miles is simply not good enough, Imagine going on an emergency road trip because a category 5 hurricane is about to hit your area. Imagine 1000s of people on the road in their EVs. This is something us people in the south has to deal with every year. The infrastructure is simply not there to support our needs. A small country like Norway might be fine. But not us Americans.

[@ziploc2000]

@@V8Supercar1 You think everyone with a gas or diesel vehicle tops their tank up every night? In the recent Florida hurricane we saw roads clogged with ICE vehicles, and some were running our of gas before they could get to a gas station. An EV can charge at ANY electric outlet.

[@munionr]

EVs are just superior cars. They are the best at performance, lifestyle, and safety. Awesome technology.

[@ninjashidan]

Hahaha good one

[@444thunderstr0ke]

They are really good, and will be even better.

[@444thunderstr0ke]

@@ninjashidan To the point that people like this won't have anything to say.

[@travis3810]

if by "performance" you mean only going in straight lines without stopping, then yes EVs are best. In all other senses of the word, ICE is far superior

[@munionr]

@@travis3810 there is no ICE vehicle that can go faster around a 2-3 mile track than an Ioniq 6 or Model 3 performance for the same price. You either have to get a $100k ice car or go 5+ laps.

[@CrispusAttucks2315]

EVs are awesome. Don’t knock it until you try it.

[@AGuyFromHazard]

They're not practical, and if a vehicle isn't practical is some way it's gotta at least be cool and they aren't that either

[@martalli]

My Model Y and Equinox EV are great cars. I've taken the MY on several 2000+ miles road trips, no problems.

[@GXDoubleX]

Yeah, we're also a 2 EV household for the past 3 years and it has been great. I do not miss gas stations for one second. I don't think enough home owners realize how awesome it is to have a level 2 charger at home with an EV. This video didn't really mention anything about home level 2 charging. I think If most of the home owners in the US realize this and adopt EVs, car companies would not have enough capacity to make enough cars just for the people who could have home level 2 charging.

[@martalli]

@@GXDoubleX Whenever a news piece overlooks level 2 charging at home or work, you can tell the author or editor is locked into the gas station mentality...

[@mariusm62]

Well it assumes that you can charge at home or at work. Myself I can't do that. As a matter of fact I have never lived in a place where I could possibly install a charger, not even a L1 plug.

[@martalli]

@@mariusm62 That is a very real issue for making EVs actually accessible to people, more than increasing DC fast charging. Still, most people line in household with garages or driveways and have the ability to add a 240v plug or EVSE, at least far more than are driving EVs right now

[@steveb796]

@@mariusm62every building in America has electricity. Most dont have gas pumps.

[@TinLeadHammer]

18% is a growth rate, which is still pretty high. As long as it is not negative, it is all good.

[@Landshark9]

I don't think I can drive a gas car again... Sorry but electric motors rule... Solve the battery issue and you'll have no objetive reason (we all understand emotional) to keep using ICE cars.

[@andrewclark6682]

Maybe you won't but many people live different lifestyles and need the towing capacity or range of gas/diesel vehicles. Not everyone lives in a suburb and works in an office

[@Neojhun]

@@andrewclark6682 SERIES HYBRID PHEV. Better performance and small amount of EV range for commuting. FYI BEVs are popular in the ARCTIC CIRCLE. Not exactly suburbs there.

[@JoshuasRecordings]

Isn't the whole reason to be a car person to buy cars which you have no objective reason to own? Don't we buy cars based on how fun they are to drive, how they make us feel, what we like? Isn't that why I have a ton of old cars which I love and will never give up? Even if they are objectively worse.

[@DanielBrownOre]

​@@andrewclark6682 That's why he said "solve the battery issue..." when in 10 years you can get an EV pickup with 700 miles of range unloaded, 300+ fully loaded and fully charges in 10 minutes you will see, it's just a matter of time.

[@saidtheblueknight]

@@DanielBrownOre it's also a matter of time until environmentalists figure out that EVs aren't exactly that green and don't actually solve the climate "issue", then they'll move onto the next big thing

[@jimcurt99]

Don't mind EVs- just don't FORCE them on me

[@Supercaradventures]

No Democratic lawmaker agreed to be interviewed or responded. So typical of that out of touch party. 😂

[@TogetherinParis]

We're here talking to you now.

[@jlcii]

Versus Republicans, who are only in touch with billionaires and White supremacists. For the record, no, that's not most of the country. Had to say that, since we know how uneducated a lot of Right wing people tend to be...

[@ziploc2000]

I've seen Buttigieg interviewed on this subject before, I suspect there's a little bit of creative journalism being used.

[@sd70cal]

On one side they are saying people aren't buying because there isn't a reliable charging infrastructure and then they say we shouldn't subsidize growing the infrastructure because there isn't a strong demand.

[@dannystaten5701]

Why ignore the adoption of nacs and the extensive Tesla network with great reliability? You also ignore home charging which means most users don’t need a “gas station” replacement 99% of the time.

[@churchofmarcus]

No kidding. There's a 10x Supercharger a mile from my house.

[@michaelclayton5435]

All EVs are on my “forget it for ever” list!

[@CraigMatsuura]

The Dunning-Kruger effect: There is a good video on it. I think this applies to all the folks who think they know the answers.

[@CraigMatsuura]

I love my EVs. It's a better vehicle, it costs less to fuel. It just so happens it helps with reducing co2. They are right fossil fuel does get subsidized. The difference is the way you fuel and when 98% of the time I charge at home it's cheaper and I wake up every morning with a full tank of electrons. For 2% I do road trips, yes it does take longer to fuel if I just measure time to charge vs putting in gas. If you add in time to stop for a break it's the difference is not as much as you think. So far with two EV I would of had three oil changes by now and gas at $3.50 a gal vs 0.10 a kwh. The math works if you do the math. However if you travel lots and there is no infrastructure you should get a diesel, hybrid or gas. No one is preventing you from buying one in either case.

[@DifferentAverage]

@@CraigMatsuura Well said on all fronts 👍

[@richardfolden3860]

@@CraigMatsuura it always strikes me how myopic people are raging about the extra 15 minutes it takes at a charging station on a road trip when they take one or two road trips a year. They completely disregard the other 98% of the year when they have to go to a gas station once or twice a week, they literally spend money on gas to drive to a gas station to get more gas, and it’s 10 times more expensive than the relative amount of electricity they needed.

[@allieflounder5764]

The biggest charging network is tesla and its bigger than all the others combined

[@WilliamBunch-z9s]

What is hillarious to me is people blame EVs for the road damage, but EV's are about 5000lbs not 1 person is looking at the 8000lbs huge trucks because no one likes the truth.

[@ziploc2000]

My Bolt EV is 3,500 lbs, a lot less than a Ford F-150 or Toyota Tacoma which every other driver round here has on their driveway.

[@rwdplz1]

Until you solve the infrastructure problem, you will have an EV sales problem. It's NOT an education problem. People talk to friends and family that have EV's and hear all the horror stories.

[@Discoducky73]

The charging infra has been solved by the Supercharger network and all companies adopting NACS in 2025. This network not only is continually monitored for any wait times but all vehicles routing to a charger are balanced to ensure no wait times. Example: Set nav for a destination where supercharging is optimal for the most efficient route. The route and charge locations are picked based on your vehicles capabilities, your drive profile, environmental conditions and every other vehicle that is routing in the area so that everyone gets the most efficient route and reduces charge times. When spikes are seen in the network, more stations, stalls and upgrades are planned. Just look at the Los Angeles area and Bay area as examples.

[@bedlambikes]

Seeing these things fail gives real automotive enthusiasts a great amount of pleasure. Return to a free market society!

[@robertstone9988]

My wife's bf told me I have a cool ev.

[@astranc]

EVs will win for one reason only... cost. Take away all subsidies for EVs and petroleum and EVs will win everyday

[@solarguy4850]

I’d add better performance, better ride, quieter, no smell, no shaking, and longer life as reasons to buy EVs as well.

[@digitalkov]

no, no, no, don't take away subsidies for petroleum..! Petroleum products are used in many other places, including plastics, cosmetics, construction, etc.. Just take away subsidies for gasoline CARS..! Wait..! there isn't any subsidy for gasoline cars. 😂

[@astranc]

@@digitalkov If its that good a business why does it need subsidies? Perhaps that contributes to all the plastic waste

[@digitalkov]

@@astranc Just like petrol industry has subsidies, but not for the cars that use petrol.., Electricity should have subsidies (which it already does), but not for the cars that use electricity.. Fair and square.

[@a_DiGiTaL_Slave_Labs]

Which electric truck would you recommend for doing 8-12 hour days hauling construction equipment? Their range drops dramatically when they need to do any work and it gets even worse when it's -40 in the winter.

[@iHelmster]

WE DONT WANT EM!!!!!

[@AGuyFromHazard]

They know this that's why the government is having to push it. EVs aren't practical and they aren't cool. So why buy one

[@redr6guy]

This was a very well put together look at EVs that showed both sides. Thank you!

[@slyguyaction]

Went all in on EVs and it's SO much better. The transition will be slow but the future is EV.

[@Dbomb81]

“We’re committed to the whole picture” “North Dakota is lagging” well ya missed the picture here in North Dakota. EV’s are impracticle 3-4 months a year as the frigid cold renders the batteries useless. Now bring roadkill garage back

[@skierpage]

All the people driving EVs in Norway are puzzled by your comment.

[@Dbomb81]

@ great for them. My hybrid, losses 100 miles to the tank when temperatures drop. Tell me about your magical batteries. My Iroc Camaro losses 0 miles with its 305 V8 when the temperature drops.

[@stickynorth]

Tariffs are unamerican, counter to free trade and ultimately generally unsuccessful in their intention. Lazy, free-loading and rent seeking are what come to mind when I think of which corporations benefit from them too! And certainly not the consumer OR freedom of choice...

[@natehill8069]

People complain about "unfair" Chinese business practices. I personally have NO problem with Chinese taxpayers paying to make things cheaper for Americans to buy.

[@beerdedwanderer]

It's not like the us has used tariffs since it's inception or anything...

[@airassault11]

Let the market do the talking. You cannot make people buy vehicles they don’t want or can’t afford. I would rather go hybrid before going full EV.

[@BIGBEAR99-t8s]

Dont want it dont care bring back roadkill

[@jwinter228]

What will EVs offer to bring excitement to enthusiast buyers? Shifting through a 6 speed Integra Type S or Civic Type R and hearing the turbo and exhaust note is such a great experience. I will have an EV someday I presume, but still...

[@manhattanblack]

Why the hard push for EVs, let them grow like the Hybrid and plug-in hybrid grew to this point.

[@AD1978leo]

I 100% agree. I dont have anything against EVs but we're not there yet and I like my V8 but again nothing against electric.I dunno maybe get our infrastructure up to par first?

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

because they are trying to keep up with China, but are too dumb to realize they cannot unless they start mining their own rare earth metals.

[@natehill8069]

@@AD1978leo The EVs will come after the infrastructure supports them. The infrastructure will be built after enough EVs are there to create demand. And there we sit.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Hybrids suck!

[@steveb796]

It takes about 8 kw of electricity to produce and deliver a gallon of gas. An ev will go about 28 miles on that much electricity.

[@churchofmarcus]

Mine does better than that.

[@ziploc2000]

Mine will go 35 in the winter and 40+ in the Summer.

[@steveb796]

@ what do you have?

[@churchofmarcus]

@@steveb796 EV6

[@steveb796]

@ awesome. I have a 21 MY. 25k miles I’ve averaged 290 w per mile. 3/4 city, 1/4 highway maybe.

[@Kyle-vu4we]

99% of those who own an EV loves it and more than likely didn't buy it to "save the environment". A lot of the older generation just can't adapt to change regardless of how much their nonsensical talking points are disproven over and over and over

[@michaeljohnson4947]

they love them, until they have to fix one.

[@chrisperry3525]

@@michaeljohnson4947 other than tires, washer fluid and wiper blades in 36,000 miles i've spent NOTHING on repairs on my model Y. My ford van in 10,000 miles (ok, bought used) coils, plugs, brakes/calipers all the way around, trans has an issue, oil changes and lube. it gets 13mpg...35 gallon tank so it's $80-100 to fill it up. The tesla...$60-90 to fill it up, and i'm installing solar so NO fuel cost starting next year. Is the be all answer? not for everyone. i use my van for work and the range of a ford ev van is a joke. I'd love a rivian...$95-110k....no way. cyber truck..gonna to drive one now that they're available...not cheap i'm sure (haven't looked). The 21 model y was $52k new and no tax incentives.

[@pcnz]

@Kyle-vu4we yep, same thing happened when automobiles first came out. People with horses said they were just a fad and would fail.

[@Kyle-vu4we]

@@michaeljohnson4947 Mine has cost me $0 so far in 2 years ownership. Only 7 years warranty left on my battery, pray for me! lol

[@Neojhun]

@@michaeljohnson4947 "until they have to fix one" That is not an major issue anymore. Days of no parts supply is nearly over. BEVs are actually EASIER to fix in a private garage with no specialized tools. But you don't care about the facts.

[@paulsandgren8625]

I think the biggest reason is simply American culture. Americans love their big SUVs and trucks. They dont mind the gas prices BC Americans pay the lowest fuel costs when compared to Europe for example. We like the idea of 5 min fillups for road trips we rarely go on.

[@churchofmarcus]

We pay the least for gas because it's subsidized by the government. On an even playing field EVs are objectively better.

[@paulsandgren8625]

I'm not denying EVs are better. That was simply my take on why EVs get so much pushback here in the states.

[@ziploc2000]

You're right, and I see a lot of pickups on the school run and outside the grocery store that look like the back 5-6 feet have never been used for anything.

[@Mitchell527]

Producing clean electricity, completely recycle the battery, before these happen EVs are rich people's toy.

[@Aircam73]

Yes because having a car with fuel that is 5 times cheaper doesn't help poor people. Batteries can be recycled and it happens far more than recycling gasoline. The grid is getting cleaner every year and even if the EV was filled with electricity that was powered by 100% coal it would still be far cleaner than any gas car.

[@WilliamKirkland-j4r]

EV's just depends on Farts and Rainbows. Not my words but don't you just love them? Drill baby - drill!

[@lib1007]

Americans don't buy EV because it's expensive. As soon as the price go down, the sales will go up.

[@89five3five]

Prices won’t go down if people don’t buy them.

[@richardfolden3860]

Average new car price is $48,000. You can buy low end versions of both of the popular Teslas for less than that.

[@tedg1609]

I got a 500hp new 4wd Tesla Model 3 for $36k - $13k cheaper than the average US new car.

[@solarguy4850]

@@89five3five good thing people are buying them then :)

[@lib1007]

@@richardfolden3860 I agree, but we can buy Toyota Corolla around $25K. There is no EV in that price range. Model 3 is competitive if include the fuel cost. But the initial cost is high.

[@Frank71]

Great vid on EVs in America.

[@davcuts2897]

I would happily buy an EV if it was affordable, could go at least 400 miles before needing to be recharged, and can fully charge in less than 5 minutes. Until then hybrids seem the best way to go.

[@johnkent5042]

If you actually owned an EV you’d quickly walk away from those requirements. Only Superman can ride 400 miles in a car without needing a bathroom break, and that’s when you charge your car. As most EV owners (or at least Tesla owners) quickly learn, the fear of being stranded at a charger with a low-range EV is hugely overblown.

[@churchofmarcus]

I had a list of requirements filled by the Kia EV6 so that's what I got. 310 mile range, 350kw charging etc (18 minutes 10-80%). After living with it for 8 months I realize 250 miles of range and 150kw charging would have been fine. Basically a $16k used Bolt would have worked for my needs.

[@jake-ly]

The thing I love is that they mention subsidies to buy EVs, but gas subsidies are to the TRILLION dollars every year worldwide

[@kennethjamora]

Let’s do away with all auto and auto-related subsidies…gasoline included. Let a gallon of gasoline cost $12 per gallon and let consumers decide. Oh and tons of cobalt is used annually to refine gasoline too. Let’s not forget that.

[@johnkent5042]

The U.S. is the only rich nation wringing its hands about EVs. Everyone else is adopting EVs at much higher rates, moving down the road and leaving us in the dust. We risk becoming stranded on an island of fossil fuel-powered cars in a sea of EVs.

[@RealWorldGarage]

First problem is most Americans don’t want it.

[@windowsdown3684]

Yeah - It’s number #1 selling car - clearly no one wants it lol

[@paradyne1T101]

​@@windowsdown3684 A number #1 selling car maybe in warmer/hotter climate Southern states, but in Northern colder/Blizzard Vortex states ev vehicles(the batteries)and the electric charging stations have been running into major problems handling the extreme cold weather conditions.

[@Comexcyc849]

@@windowsdown3684 If you have some logic, you know that this #1 selling doesn't mean anything. Gas car have so may options, and most of them are super capable and easy to use. yet EV only has few, and many of them are not friendly to use at all. So One EV takes a lot of sale doesn't mean much.

[@windowsdown3684]

@@Comexcyc849 people chose Tesla model Y more than any other model. This makes it #1 selling car. Don’t ignore facts. I never said EV sold more than Gas cars in totality.

[@bandwidthpiggy9378]

last I checked #1 selling car is still f150

[@gregcook7900]

All I know is I had a 7500 mile service on my Rivian. They came to house, rotated the tires and left...I have solar and fill up at home...works for me...Road trips are not a problem..

[@chrisperry3525]

the little Buick SUVs are made in china. some teslas are made in china. iPhones are made in china...and LOTS of US cars are made in mexico cause the wages is $3/hour and no environmental considerations.

[@richardfolden3860]

Some Teslas are made in China because they are sold in China and surrounding countries. They don’t ship them back to the United States.

[@kcdesignconcepts5216]

​@@richardfolden3860Tesla's battery manufacturer is in China.

[@richardfolden3860]

@ they have multiple battery manufacturers and they are in many countries.

[@kevinpolito1529]

80% of EV owners charge at home. Tesla has 7,000 chargers located in all 50 states. The vast majority of EVs on American roads are Teslas. The average daily commute is 42 miles. The average EV range is over 200 miles. Teslas have a range from 275 to 405 miles per charge.

[@KPHVAC]

Vehicle cost is everything. I'm not willing to spend $40,000 on any new vehicle, especially an electric vehicle. If I could buy a new model Y AWD for $30,000 I would already own one.

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

BYD only $30.000 in Australia

[@richardfolden3860]

Up until a few months ago, you could’ve had a model three for less than that. Mine saves me about $2500 a year on fuel and maintenance which is also a huge consideration in the cost of a vehicle. Sorry you missed it.😢

[@rp9674]

My new 23 Chevy bolt EV was $30,000, $20500 after rebates, my first used EV was $8,000

[@ziploc2000]

Take a look at the prices for new vehicles now, but be sitting in case you faint.

[@KPHVAC]

@ziploc2000 I look every week, I'm a car fanatic. I spent 6 years in the auto industry.

[@mustang131radio]

Bought a Chevy Bolt for my daughter... she drives my Tahoe because it can't make it to the beach or her school...

[@ziploc2000]

Howe far away is her school?

[@AroPnut]

love it when people start bringing cobalt mining like the oil companies havent been destroying the global south for a century. new cars will always be involved in some kind of exploitation under the current global economic system

[@pierredelecto7069]

Also worth noting refining petroleum requires cobalt lol.

[@ziploc2000]

Yeah, they didn't care about the economic, enirvironmental or social cost of mining until it was EVs, as if gas just magically appears in our tanks.

[@rally411tv]

Very balanced. I enjoyed the doc.

[@vJettza]

Problem is gas cars work. Not everybody wants the extra credit

[@plop31]

gas cars emissions are the biggest problem. the second is the poor efficiency, the third is the cost of operating and maintaining a gas car. as a taxi i earn X1.6 more money since i switched to a tesla.

[@showoe3126]

they work with our subsidized oil, without it most of the cars we drive here are unaffordable.

[@aiv4873]

Pete Buttigieg's response was perfect, Yes our solution isn't perfect, but its better than no solution, and its getting better by the day.

[@josefalero1087]

Long life to diesel truck

[@Neojhun]

LOL Not MODERN TDI diesel trucks. Those are over complicated fragile mess. Diesel road vehicles just needs to be phased out. Replaced with PHEV Gasoline or LPG Autogas. More powerful + responsive & more reliable.

[@chodkowski01]

EV’s still aren’t a stand alone product. You see people with EV’s still have an ICE vehicle as well.

[@aznsumthing]

“The future is electric. The question is how fast we are going to get to that future.” It’s undeniable, when you realize fossil fuel is a non renewable resource.

[@FemboyMotorworks]

The human mind has always resisted against change due to the uncertainty behind new products, and the sheer misinformation against said new products will only prolong this uncertainty in the minds of the clueless... Once people will bring themselves in a situation where fossil fuels will end in a shortage, then the transition towards electrification will further make sense in their minds

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Untill you realize the earth has much more of it then we ever thought easly triply tye supply from 100 years left to hudreds or a thusend years... Also that isn't mentioning that Snyth gas is a thing and has been since at least WW2 and is interchangeab;le with fosel fuels and is commonly used outside of passaanger car gas... But is use in engine oil and for comercal and industal vehicles... Also most people have forgotten hydrogen which is the most common fuel in our universe unlike electricity is is very rare and the onoly way to use it for power reliably is comply atifical... But hydrogen is so common it is the reason why space isn't a vacuum anbd you likely can still find it between galaexies as Big bang and galexies/stallar chaos... Also batteries are a verery limited tech that the evast majority of advancmes over the past 300 years has been making more them more effect and thats it... Littlery based on our undersyttanding of how stuff works batteries will never go beyond what they always have been... a waay to store power but in a very limited way compared to any other commonly used means of storing power.... Also like all reaasearch related to effecnticy you can not rush it no matter how much money and resorces you use... It will always take time and experience with the tech to use... So skipping effenciy tech does not work and you must start from square one each time.... So what people in the past ten years say is possible is very much not and idf it is we as a society are no were near able to do think of a theory to beguine to reasceah the tech you need to make the tech berofe the tech that would make batteries have no downsides...

[@markmonroe7330]

Lie. As of today, the next 75-100 years of the future is not electric.

[@FemboyMotorworks]

@@markmonroe7330 This statement is half-true if you were to include slow developing 3rd world countries, and the transition wouldn't take long if incentives were implemented

[@michaeljohnson4947]

We're sitting on hundreds of years worth of oil.

[@Preditor65]

Until the U.S. solves housing which is needed for charging with the current battery tech, the transition to a sustained and growing share of Ev adoption, it will take 40 years. The only thing that could save it is a dramatic shift in battery technology.

[@actgeoj]

I never cease to understand why people say we are being forced to buy EV's when comprised only 8.8% of the total market. That's a niche.

[@richardfolden3860]

Well, it’s about 20% globally and going up every year

[@msw7021]

@@richardfolden3860 Mostly in China

[@richardfolden3860]

@@msw7021 it’s 40% in China. It’s 90% in Norway. It goes up every year and it’s inevitable.

[@RussellFineArt]

EV’s are the best all, no question, but EV batteries need to double their energy capacity, and charge in 10-15 minutes in order to capture the remaining 80% of auto buyers.

[@seanthornton726]

The EV problem in America is that Americans have always feared change, but insist on progression...

[@deragoth4250]

No the problem is they have an oil industry who like to keep their profits and subsidies thank you very much. And if they have to give some money out to politicians to keep the greater hold of their profits then so be it

[@seanthornton726]

@deragoth4250 The consequence of Americans' fear of chamge is being easily manipulated, influenced, deceived, duped, tricked, seduced, and misguided. Be it big oil, con men posing as politicians, or grifters on the internet. The outcome is always the same

[@djt8518]

Change isn't always good some people are always hurt

[@deragoth4250]

@@djt8518 true. When America change from horse to cars lots of people occupation got affected. Doesn’t mean we have to do the work

[@beautyofgrace3915]

I have a Chevy Volt PHEV, I use the ev part for my daily driving, and when travel I use gas. Infrastructure is not there yet for evs, but in the future I would buy a full ev if they’re affordable

[@JBasics]

Very interesting video

[@donswier]

75% of our family's miles are electric, but I'm against EV mandates & subsidies. It saves us $2,500 annually in energy & maintenance. That alone should be incentive enough.

[@windowsdown3684]

EVs for commute. V8 for fun

[@Comexcyc849]

EV for junkyard

[@puremaga17]

you spelled commie incorrectly...

[@wydopnthrtl]

@@puremaga17 🤣

[@windowsdown3684]

@@puremaga17 ok stay tied to lining the pockets of gas companies. I went from $800 a month fueling two gas cars to $300 fueling one plus charging an EV that costs $85 Who’s the sucker?

[@Aircam73]

Why do you think a slower truck with less hp and torque would be more fun?

[@timunderwood4314]

Only real working people need an EV. They also, more importantly, need a private recharge station at home.

[@philreynolds6018]

Freemantle highway Cargo ship fire sank with 3000 cars caused by electric battery powered automobiles ! Bad for the envronment if you ask me .

[@richardfolden3860]

You’re right, because obviously a cargo ship has never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever sank before because something else caught on fire. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@gregpapuga9288]

Absolutely love my Tesla

[@mr.fiero87]

bye motor trend

[@RM-rh3mz]

Electric motor trend 😘

[@SUSTV.YOUTUBE]

Is this the airport?

[@housepianist]

Good bye. And to everyone else, welcome.

[@housepianist]

@ and what does that have to do with the video? So they were swimming in profits and now because of this video and the fact that it focused on EVs means they’re shutting down? Makes no sense.

[@gbr1960]

Multiple hours could go on toward finding route-cause and solutions for our charging infrastructure woes - especially having seen countries like Norway et al doing it well. This piece only mentions that the problem exists. That said, kudos to MT for even talking about EVs.

[@jl.4317]

Tesla is the only EV option that makes sense in 2024 if you’ll ever road trip.

[@Comexcyc849]

not if you need tow something on a road trip.

[@Neojhun]

NACS is will end that problem.

[@BenJenSnyder]

A video on why U.S. manufacturers (save for maybe Tesla) can’t produce affordable EVs would be interesting. It’s mentioned in the video but not explored.

[@AvaSingh-i7x]

Success is not built on success. It's built on failure, It's built on frustration. it's built on fear that you have to overcome. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in Life

[@ChristopherReed-m6i]

You are correct. I suggest that people know the right to grow their earnings , because that's the only way to survive inflation.

[@BrandonWallace-v2w]

Making money is the plan and with Bitcoin your plans can be accomplish

[@LolaTay-j5p]

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[@HermanBerkley]

I really appreciate Mrs Trimble influence during this global pandemic Lock down

[@Rocky-e2j5h]

Sounds familiar, I have heard her name on several occasions and both her success stories in trading big kudos to this woman.

[@JayLew91]

I hate that the representative just pointed out how much more we need to do in America but isn't doing anything about them. Just pointing out that electric cars is a small percentage of the problem

[@brosephjoseph9178]

I live in high desert of Southern California and 3 new gas stations have just opened up within the past 6 months all within 10 miles of my home…

[@Aegisx5]

If you had an EV you'd never go to any charger near your home because you'd charge it in the garage.

[@djt8518]

He doesn't have a garage call and ask his wife

[@thndr_5468]

Charging is the key. If I can't fuel a car why would I buy one at all?

[@occidelindaest]

Isn't Motortrend a bankrupt company? Who cares what you think anyway?

[@Neojhun]

WTF this the problem with you bunch. You hate facts and live a life based on erroneous rumors.

your a fool..mr gas powered car driver