Lore of the Dungeons - Zelda: The Wind Waker

[@MsSparklesNGlitter]

I know many hated the water travel from one island to another but personally it was one of my favourite parts of WW. The story line of WW is one of the best of the entire franchise.

[@BowlOSoup6661]

yes

[@sandman8920]

It’s my favourite. I never understood the hate.

[@spacecat8511]

Unless I had to dodge seahats or chase down gunships or tackle the korok sidequest, I actually found the sea travel to be pretty relaxing. (But boat combat was still pretty terrible. I just stuck with the boomerang whenever I disturbed a big octo-multiple targets without the wonky boat aiming.)

[@W4iteFlame]

Nah, water traveling was fine

[@tehabi]

I absolutely love WW. My favorite part was the sailing and filling the map. I was one of the few who were sad that they nerfed the triforce shard quest.

[@GuukanKitsune]

You did miss some IMPORTANT details in the 'Redead Statue' in the Earth Temple, and ones I think are worth mentioning because they shift the lore of the dungeon CONSIDERABLY. The statue is not, in fact, a Redead. Everyone assumes that because of the earrings matching, but that's the only shared detail. Look closer: it has an enlarged, beak-like nose. It has a gem decoration in its forehead. And it has long hair, pulled up into a topknot. Wasn't there a race in Ocarina of Time with those traits? One that is not visibly present in Wind Waker? It's not a redead. It's a GERUDO, grinning with greed, and you HAVE TO MAKE HER SEE THE LIGHT to pass. It's a reference to Nabooru! Which dungeon was it the Mirror Shield was in in OOT? Which featured tons of light-based puzzles featuring spinning sun emblems? The Spirit Temple. Which was built by the Gerudo. The Earth Temple is likely a rebuilt Spirit Temple, containing a votive of Nabooru's changed ways, and is likely very deeply connected to the Gerudo! As may be the Redeads... in a tragic manner.

[@paigemalloy4276]

*LOVE THIS* I can't unsee it now! It is ABSOLUTELY, unquestionably a Gerudo. Your powers of perception are quite impressive 👍✨ (Oh holy crap, that also explains why there are no Gerudo in the game. . .the re-deads are what remain of them )

[@TheSodaShop]

Never thought about this but i think you're right

[@Doran.]

Oh wow! This is such an interesting take! The hair and nose on the statue really do scream Gerudo and perhaps Nabooru. Maybe the *crawling position* of the statue doesn't symbolize crawling out of a grave as much as *sneaking like a thief,* referring to Nabooru's attempt to sneak into the Spirit Temple for treasure in OOT, before she saw the holy light and became a sage as you mention.

[@GuukanKitsune]

@Paige Malloy Not to mention that the cries of the Redeads in WW seem to match the pitch and timbre of the Gerudo Swordswomen's cries from OOT: When Ganon returned, he had no mercy for those who betrayed him. He made Redeads out of his rebellious former subjects. He made the followers of Nabooru into something that was wholly wretched but would never die. And I do not think it happened all that long ago, considering just how widely spread Redeads are across the Great Sea. At least, that's what I think.

[@rtertgrrtgwrtzwt]

@@GuukanKitsune But there were still gerudo in the desert in oot after the timeskip, and the redeads were in the castle. So the gerudo were fine.

[@jaxpool155]

something the earth temple segment got me thinking about is the relation between the dead and the sun, the redead face becoming a sun and jalhalla being weak to sunlight. it's reminiscent of how in ocarina of time the sun's song was the only thing that could stun redeads and was learned in the kakariko graveyard's royal tomb, not far from the shadow temple.

[@jstar3382]

Undead have historically been weak to sunlight in Zelda. Stalchildren only appear at night, stal enemies appear at night, and then there's sun song and reflecting sunlight to kill undead. It's been a common theme

[@blakegomez14]

I never realized that Ganon's Tower was located in the Gerudo Desert this entire time, but it makes a lot of sense.

[@SamLugo]

Not having a N64, but owning a gamecube, wind waker was my first console zelda game. It has a certain spot of nostalgia for me, and I greatly enjoyed this video. Thank you.

[@chadgumban3922]

Same

[@thezonaiarchitect]

same bro same

[@chadgumban3922]

@@thezonaiarchitect nothing can beat the feeling of amazement seeing next gen graphics of windwaker. The vibrant colors, upbeat/playful music of outset island, your first zelda game you know you're in for a good adventure. Damn, one of the best feeling ever. Hard to get it nowadays.

[@thezonaiarchitect]

@@chadgumban3922 real!!! I got stuck right after the Tower of Gods so I really never beat it, but I remember instead of beating it I'd run around and sail around aimlessly doing tons of random things and just exploring, the entire game is a core memory to me.

[@SuperLucky7]

Same.

[@hiddendesire3076]

4:12 There was a cut volcano that was to be their new home. It had a village along the lower incline of the volcano with a path leading to a cave near the top.

[@keithtorgersen9664]

I know that it’s a much less popular game, but lore-wise it would be really interesting to see a video on New Hyrule from Spirit Tracks. Especially since the implication is that it’s at a very high altitude in comparison with old Hyrule. If it weren’t for the flooding to bring up the sea level, it would be a lot like living in Bolivia.

[@aidamou]

Underrated and over hated. Spirit Tracks is adorable and has Zelda as an actual companion.

[@BanditGames]

Pleasure doing these with you sir! See you at PAX in like 24 hours- 😁

[@zopplo8300]

see yall at pax 2023 too

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

Sad we don't have any TOTK to look forward to😭

[@Corryx]

Damn wish I knew about this would totally have gotten a picture with this dashing bandit

[@Tazerboy_10]

Yeah!

[@sinistersurfer9249]

Have a great time you guys!

[@pygmiegoatsheepbeat]

What's REALLY sad and interesting about Volvagia is that in the OOT manga, it's revealed that young Link knew Volvagia as a child. He'd set him free from a vendor selling animals and Volvagia and Link bonded and played together for a while. Then as an adult, Link tried with all his might to bring Volvagia back to his senses after being controlled by Ganondorf. When he couldn't, he had to kill him and as Volvagia died, the dragon was crying.

[@sunnystreet4950]

Well I didn’t need to cry today but here I am. 😭 What a horrible, tragic thing to happen to both of them. It just makes OOT Link’s story so much more devastating.

[@pygmiegoatsheepbeat]

@@sunnystreet4950 I know. As I read it I was like 'YO! What the fuck?'

[@psychedoutcasts]

I loved the manga so much. It's too bad it wasn't cannon.

[@ctyoro5086]

Almost certainly isn't canon but I remember that story, so sad but good

[@Gloom_Lore]

While people say it isn't canon, I totally accept it as such. It gives the Links in different games much more character, building more of a story for each hero and each iteration of the legend. Either way, I felt so bad for Link in the OoT manga at that part..

[@WeroEdward]

I have to say, I am a little disappointed that you didn't mention the Gerudo symbolism in the Earth temple. It has a lot of ties to the Spirit temple from OoT and just desert symbolism in general, like the giant mirrors being in the shape of scorpions for example.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

I always wondered why the Zora fled to the mountain tops with everyone else. As an aquatic race, you'd think their first thoughts upon realizing that Hyrule was about to be under water would be less "Get to higher ground!" and more "Free real estate!"

[@silvercandra4275]

*Tl;dr: Rapid and intense changes in environtment are often bad for fish, and probably the Zora as well* As a fishkeeper, I can tell you why. The Zora are obviously fish people, and yes live in water as much as on land, but the thing is that fish are very sensitive to changes in the water, and the Zora may be as well. The reason they might have had to flee to the peak of a volcano, and later evolved into the Rito, could have been that the sudden rise of the water might have changed it's conditions to no longer be good for them. In OoT, Zora's Domain was located in fresh water, and since the Great Sea is an ocean, and oceans are famously salt water, that by itself could already have been the issue (though we do see Zora living in the ocean in MM). But even if it isn't a salt water fresh water issue, a flood of that scale, would likely result in temperature changes, a whole bunch of debris being stirred up, levels of different elements in the water changing (nitrite levels, oxygen levels etc), and potentially intrusive species that could either pose as competition, or even prey on them. The water was probably no longer safe for them to stay in for prolonged periods of time, which is why they wound up spending more and more time on land, until they eventually evolved into the land dwelling Rito.

[@sarenarterius6217]

The water in WW it's toxic, any fish can Live there, inly monsters. Even Ganondorf mentioned that. Ah, and remember: in phantom hourglass and Spirit tracks we can see Zora living in the water: but they become monsters! Between leaving the water and become monster, tge choice was leaving.

[@Levacque]

​@@sarenarterius6217 I have always wondered if what Ganondorf said was true, or if he was trying to heap bitterness onto his judgement of the gods, like "They drowned you and didn't have the decency to add fish." I really think there's fish in this ocean. Because how the hell is anybody making enough food to survive on these rocks? There's exactly one island with any signs of agriculture, and it amounts to one guy cutting grass and a pig that ate all the other pigs.

[@sarenarterius6217]

@@Levacque I think he's telling the true; in PH and ST, where the water it's normal, you can see fish in the water; and in WW, you cannot see any fish. What the people eat? Don't know, maybe sea monsters, but not fish

[@Levacque]

@@sarenarterius6217 nothing but oktorok and gyorg on the menu, which I totally forgot about until now

[@Sam_T2000]

I think the Earth Temple in _Wind Waker_ might be my favorite “Shadow” Dungeon… even though it’s not branded as such, it is dark and gloomy, and filled with ghosts. the light/dark motif is neat, too.

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

I can't stand the Shadow Temple in OoT, but I love the Earth Temple in Wind Waker.

[@KryyssTV]

To be fair to the encyclopedia, Death Mountain has moved within the series. Or rather, the name has been applied to diffetent peaks. It's been suspected for a long time that the Hyrule in the games has been the island seen off the coast in Zelda 2 where you find the Grand Palace and the Tower of Darunia. This was confirmed by BotW and TotK which clearly shows the land separated from a larger continent with oceans along all other sides. This means that both the volcanic region on the continent and that on the island have both shared the title of Death Mountain. The continental region even has its own Spectacle Rock too. Further to this, what is now called the Eldin region is all volcanic and encircles Zora's Domain so it isn't impossible for the original Death Mountain to become inactive and another peak to erupt into what became known as Dragon Roost. The fact it didn't retain the name Death Mountain does suggest it is a different peak as well.

[@TheRCScotsman]

Wind Waker is so special. The sense of adventure is almost unmatched and it flips between "cutesy and fun" and dark and mysterious", with everything in-between. I've tried to list my favourite 3D Zelda games in order and I always get stuck with Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker HD and Breath of the Wild. I just cannot decide. BOTW, I reckon, is the best console game I've ever played. But "best" and "favourite" are two very different things.

[@Levacque]

The traveling music is very good for invoking a sense of discovery and purpose. It takes away any tedium associated with the time spent sailing by making every new journey feel like the start of a brand new adventure every time.

[@TheRCScotsman]

@@Levacque I agree. However, personally, I love the sailing. Even in the Gamecube version. The sense of adventure is amazing. I've always loved the sea and ended up becoming a sailor, myself.

[@KryyssTV]

To be honest, Nintendo would have made The Depths in TotK far better if they had you sailing across a subterranian ocean of Malice. Would have felt like a twisted version of Wind Waker.

[@blitzgirl6522]

Playing Elden Ring music during the Earth Temple bit feels so perfect, got to say! Earth Temple is one of my favorite Zelda dungeons.

[@tensazangetsu551]

Did anyone else notice when Zeltik is reading the text overlay from the Tower of the Godd, you can see Link fly into the side of the rising Tower and then fall into the water? Same thing that happened during the first trip to The Forsaken Fortress. Link smacks the side of the building then falls into the water. Ah classic Link

[@javierramos6729]

Can we take a moment to appreciate that these two amazing Zelda KZbinrs work together that often! :) These videos are really special, I can't wait for TOTK related ones when the game's out

[@richardsorgo8600]

Someone made the amusing comparison in saying the Dragon Roost Cavern music is like ''dodongo's cavern riding yoshi''

[@valhersa29]

The sage of Wind, a walking-talking plant The sage of Earth, a flying bird girl I always found it sort of ironic.

[@PodoHelmer]

I know! I was always thinking, "Uhhh, Nintendo? You switched Makar and Medli's dungeons. You're not gonna put the bird girl in the Wind Temple and the (super adorable) walking-talking plant creature in the Earth Temple? Why not? EXPLAIN TO ME!!!" I'm not exaggerating, that is pretty much what I was thinking while watching my dad play through the game.

[@gee8648]

I think this was a big miss on Nintendo’s part. I also thought it was silly the zora evolved into Rito when they are already evolutionarily well suited to aquatic environments. I really like the Rito but they could have just been a new race in WW.

[@valhersa29]

@@gee8648 according to the Wiki, “The Zoras evolved over the span of a century into the Rito after the events of the Great Flood because of the unnatural water created by the gods, which was uninhabitable to Zora.” Still kinda silly tho

[@ood9700]

@@gee8648 ​ beyond the great sea’s water being habitable to mostly only monsters, I’m sure that with such a vast ocean there would be less competition for food/resources in the sky, to be excessively sciencey about it. Not to mention, why would fish irl ever have evolved onto land if they’re also already suited to aquatic environments? Why has any creature ever evolved wings? Things will always evolve to fit different niches.

[@NuiYabuko]

​@@valhersa29 How is that silly though?

[@justaguy2182]

The Earth Temple is by far my favorite dungeon in the game, and one of the better ones in the series in my opinion. I like it's approach to a house of the dead type thing more than the Shadow Temple. An ancient tomb where the dead rest soundly is a whole lot more appealing than a torture chamber.

[@slopehoke1277]

Given that both Redeads and Stalfos (presumably, bodies without souls) and Poes (souls without bodies), I wonder if the Earth Temple was originally supposed to be a place where these two could come together. While some spirits can clearly pass on simply by fulfilling some spiritual purpose they couldn't fulfill in life (e.g, Laruto passing on her prayers to Medli), maybe others need to be reunited with a corporeal form to accomplish whatever business they were unable to finish in life. That would explain why the temple seems to venerate the redeads - it could act as a big beacon to any wandering spirits "hey, this is where you can get a body!"

[@ratedn]

Mad props, the editing and music choices is brilliant! Loved it. The Earth Temple is genuinely super interesting, also nice catch on the tombstone!

[@TrueTrickster2016]

How would you guys feel that near your home there is a secret hole/area that has a labyrinth filled with REDEADS AND DARKNUTS

[@featherelfstrom8405]

It's called "Down Town Los Angeles". No joke.

[@anomalfrequencymusic]

This video makes me so happy. Thank you both for creating this video to explain the deeper lore!!

[@Raybro16]

I’ve always been creeped out by the Earth Temple dungeon, it was the first one where I felt truly terrified playing a Zelda game. I remember vividly screaming in fear when one of the Redeads shrieked at me, something that I’ve experienced multiple times during and even before entering the dungeon. Guess the creepy atmosphere and the Redead shrieks finally broke me. Strangely enough, the room with the ReDead statue, once lit up, felt like a safe place, away from the darkness and everything that lies within it. That damn statue, though, always served as a grim reminder that even though I felt safe, I was not welcomed in the dungeon. Only the dead belong there…

[@coopsaf]

I hope TOTK will have an Earth Temple type of area / dungeon. We've seen that there will be some sort of underground in the game, and I hope it gets expanded on. Imagine having a massive catacomb area with hundreds of skulls surrounding you, similar to catacombs you can visit in Paris / Europe. I also hope that the mirror shield makes a return in TOTK. Assuming weaponry functions the same as in BOTW, I'm not sure how you would get a new one after it breaks. Maybe you can take a common type of shield and bring it to someone to forge it into a mirror shield?

[@jacobweinstein9136]

Designing a game this beautiful takes serious amounts of talent, I will always love the Wind Waker

[@zkproductions4351]

Haven’t played wind waker but still gonna watch this video since all your videos are absolutely awesome

[@RestlessWandererOriginal]

It's actually a very good iteration except the cartoony artstyle

[@netweed09]

@@RestlessWandererOriginal The Cartoony artstyle is much of what made it such a cool & bold entry. In many ways, WW is well known to be the real blueprint for BotW. The Open Sea concept, the Korok leaf used as the Paraglider. And of course the unique Cel-shading. And it actually had Dungeons. WW was in many ways far more iconic than Breath. It's just that Breath sold way more and is more popular having come at the right time on an innovative console.

[@MikaelLearsi]

@@netweed09 I share your sentiment

[@WCircuit7224]

​@@RestlessWandererOriginal The grudge bruh

[@RosiYYAP]

I could see the possibility that Redeads might have been corpses cursed by the Sheikah to guard the royal family. It would fit the theme of the Shadow Temple, the Sheikah executing the royal family's less desirable tasks. Considering how buried and brutal the Shadow Temple was, I don't see them being above reanimating corpses to suit their purposes

[@manuelarocho8131]

Yknow it's always interesting to see the geography of these dungeons, especially from Hyrule's view and not the great sea. A lot have entrances on the surface but how would it look entering from the bottom of the mountain. Like the room before fighting the boss of the Earth Temple, maybe there was a door at the bottom of the pit that would have led to the sunken Hyrule. That is just me though, obviously it wouldn't matter gameplay wise but story wise, I always wondered how these places would have function logically.

[@Levacque]

I've also always wondered about the original temple entrances. It's possible they were always accessed by a big pilgrimage up very tall mountains, but it makes more sense for a door to exist in the depths. The other thing I noticed after playing it just recently is that there are a lot of established structures that form secret grottos on the islands. Like, you'll drop into a hole and the interior will be worked stone and the entrances are very tall shafts. That seems to imply that a lot of mountaintop towers were built, and the architecture matches the Tower of the Gods, linking all of these spires together. Maybe they were for beacons? At least one island is clearly the ruins of a collapsed tower, another is a series all in a line. And the structures are scattered around, too. Very interesting.

[@nyperold7530]

Hmm. To think that the thing you use to interact with the Gorons the most is the Delivery Bag, which is given to you by the Rito.

[@L337M4573RK]

The Rito are supposed to be descendants of the Zora, but Dragon Roost Island is obviously the upper portion of Death Mountain. So...that might explain why the Gorons are forced to drift the Great Sea aimlessly as merchants.

[@solgaleo3533]

One theory I had about the Gorons leaving Death Mountain was due to them distrusting Valoo, who is related to Volvagia, and they either fled or were exiled for attempting to slay him

[@master_atlas]

Wait a minute, "red wrath" (Calamity?), The entrance to the temples being mentioned makes me wonder if we were supposed to travel Hyrule as well at one point, but looking at how Makar and Medali don't understand their temples outside of being a place to pray for the mastersword, what if the temples at one point served another function? I wonder what the ghost ship used to be and why the Gorons, who could reach higher than anyone to the mountaintops would abandon their home, and why the Rito seem to have two guardians, as Valoo could help the Rito but Jabuu could help the Gorons when they are out being merchants, perhaps that gossip fish carries information to merchants at what people may be interested in buying?

[@Wxyver_n]

I think this games interpretation of the Stalfos are actually Moblin Skeletons. They have the same helmets and their bodies are almost similar. The only downside is the pelvis.

[@ClassicalMimicry]

Isn't it also possible that both peaks are "Death Mt" but the crust shifted moving away from the Magma vent that would flow up adding to the mountain top, like the many islands under the ocean near Hawaii??

[@verdantmistral442]

It is also possible that the Redead Statues were transformed by magic and since the magic is rooted in the undead in the dungeon you are restoring the statue to its true form. It is quite possible that corrupting a dungeon can change its physical form to some degree.

[@garetharmstrong2055]

Death mountain in OoT has two peaks. The fire temple is built around them. It makes sense that the two islands are actually the original two volcanic cones.

[@Seven-9090]

What if that last island that was cut (jabuun quest thing) was supposed to have Zora’s on it. But the rito was used as an excuse of why the Zoras aren’t in the game, to mask the lack of time.

[@soulreapermagnum]

or alternatively, it would have been the home of the goron.

[@Seven-9090]

@@soulreapermagnum it was supposed to be a water dungeon i think

[@Seven-9090]

@@soulreapermagnum but it also does make sense that the fish’s decide to evolve to fly, when the world is flooded

[@soulreapermagnum]

@@Seven-9090 on one hand yes but on the other you'd think the entire realm being flooded would be like a paradise for the zora.

[@Seven-9090]

@@soulreapermagnum exactly

[@AMRARDvermebrungruppe]

Anyone else notice some interesting connections between Gods' Tower and Stone Tower Temple? Living statues, puzzles involving controlling statues, the overall design of the statuary...

[@sarenarterius6217]

Man, I love watch your videos during lunch and diner! Since I always eat alone, your videos are a great company! I would love to see a video about goron village in adult timeline, and yes, I'm talking about Phantom hourglass and Spirit Tracks, where we can see 2 goron isles - and really, any video about Spirit Tracks would be awesome! As a Zelda fan for 25 years, only now I had the oportunity to play PH and ST, and I love/hate both lol

[@DERyuga]

Hearing the Elden Ring music really makes me want to see you tackle the lore of that game, I think it'd totally be up your alley

[@kaiseremotion854]

something I'm just now noticing is the "tower of the gods" as a whole eerily mimics BOTW shrines shape wise, just more elongated

[@OctoAaron]

Wind waker was the first video game I ever played! It’s awesome to get the full lore on these dungeons I’ve grown up with!

[@balls1805]

ayy same! the nostalgia is ridiculous whenever i replay it

[@AaronJLong]

This video's thumbnail immediately made me think of the gritty first person gritty zombie and monster shooting light gun series House of the Dead crossed with Wind Waker. Like Link's Crossbow Training with a horror twist and Wind Waker's distinct cartoony art style. Wind Waker has some freaky creatures that seem like cartoony versions of monsters you might see in that series, as it has much more than just zombies. Now I really want to see what the Magician, my favorite boss from the second game (I heard it is also the final boss of the first but I was never good enough to quite make it there in what little I played) would look like reimagined in Wind Waker style. After all, the Zelda series has no shortage of undead and horrifying monsters, some of which we saw more realistic depictions of on the N64 and were reimagined in Wind Waker. The Redeads were the scariest part of OoT for me, even worse than Dead Hand with that paralyzing scream, and I think in Wind Waker they are actually scarier in their design and animations. Thank goodness I was older by the time WW released and the game used them much more sparingly. If anyone knows of an artist that can draw things in Wind Waker style and does commissions, let me know.

[@mario_maniac9368]

Love the lore of zelda games and the collaboration just makes it better

[@julieburnsTY]

Earth temple was Ocarina's Spirit Temple ! Sunlight imagery, mirror shield, redeads better resemble Gerudo- esp considering the scrapped swordsman

[@lilkorok]

wind waker is just SO good

[@netweed09]

_Far_ better than BotW for me. Actual proper dungeons and it sort of invented the blueprint for a more Open world Zelda with the Sea exploration and the Korok leaf for gliding. Actually had a Cool story and even cooler lore and introduced whole races. And look, your weapons don't relentlessly break every 5 minutes! It was simply bags of Fun.

[@DillonExner]

The Skyview Temple and its neighbor the Ancient Cistern are also both thematically and geographically similar to WW’s Earth Temple (unlike SS’s Earth Temple, confusingly). Also, the TotG to the Temple of Time’s hidden tower from Twilight Princess.

[@Levacque]

How do you mean "hidden tower?" Like they would be part of the same complex? I love both temples in part for their similarity and I'm wondering what it is you've got cooking.

[@KryyssTV]

The Tower of the Gods has now been established retroactively as being a Zonai creation. Nintendo was very smart by designing the Zonai with an Aztec/Mayan aesthetic and making them a highly technological tribe who were worshipped as gods in ancient Hyrule. This means when the Hylians didn't get a reply from the goddesses via the Triforce then they turned to the Gods who have now been established as the Zonai. The Tower of the Gods also has a huge bell which is used to contact the gods, we see another bell used for this purpose at the Temple of Time in TotK. Its technically a retcon as I doubt Nintendo had the Zonai concept fleshed out fully way back then. But they've consistently associated the sky islands and ancient advanced technology with a race that predated the Kingdom of Hyrule and frequently used that Aztec aesthetic along with green or blue energy.

[@EMD766]

I almost forgot how funny it is when Link hits the wall.🤣🤣🤣

[@Fareeha73]

sage laruto is def one of my favourite tracks from the series

[@OpalFedora92]

The giant statue in the earth temple always reminded me of the gerudo's temple in ocarina of time. Also the redead scream sounds like elephants at times lol

[@keithtorgersen9664]

I remember the original commercial for WW, always thought it odd that the mysterious girl pronounced Hyrule as “hy-RULE” instead of HY-rule.

[@HiWithAnyNumberOf.I.WasTaken]

for the earth temple theory, its also fair to say that the redeads statue could have been more of a memorial, or a reminder of the dead before they were entumed and mumified, and the stalfos could have simply been great warriors corupted by gannon's influence... though the botw sheika monks do serve as a good arguing point for the redeads being corrupted by cannon rather than resurrected.

[@giantryan660]

Really cool of you guys to pair up for the rundowns! Going to go check out bandit now

[@carlcraft674]

JUST YESTERDAY I was craving a Wind Waker video and started watching a play through. 🙌🏻

[@ceilingfen9878]

Wind Waker was a game I did enjoy. I 100% it, beat everything, got all the side items, got all the islands marked down (starting at the very top right and going to the very bottom) even got all of the picto photos for statues before unfortunately, my gamecube did a ded. Part of my top 5 for sure, I should get it and go for it again.

[@Levacque]

Getting all the figurines is thankless but somehow infinitely rewarding

[@ceilingfen9878]

@@Levacque I actually had fun since you needed to include a clear photo most of the time, I had fun trying to get angles to make sure a figure was made.

[@McJawry]

Some footage has darker gamma than the rest of the video. Unless it was intentional, it is most likely a colorspace mismatch involving Rec. 709 and sRGB. Both cover the same amount of colors, so gamma is pretty much the only difference between the two. Footage tends to look look darker or brighter if you switch them up. Not sure how easy it is to deal with in Sony Vegas, which is what i recall you edit with. Correcting this error makes it better for viewers to look at footage that is already dark, like inside the dungeons. All KZbin videos display as Rec. 709 btw.

[@skullkid7989]

I wish this game was on switch

[@UnluckySuperstition]

Maybe the Earth temple was a sister location of the Shadow temple in OoT. A resting place/prison for the tortured individuals in that era. A place where the darkness is always present, but light can be let in unexpectedly at anytime from the various windows/ceiling shafts and mirrors. Maybe it was a place made with a holy pretext, but also a way to eternally torture the already deceased even after their initial death with all the light and holy energy associated with the temple.

[@matthewmuir8884]

4:27 I wonder if one of the bits of cut content from Wind Waker was going to be the new home of the Gorons, especially since it's very likely that one of the cut dungeons was recycled as the Goron Mines of Twilight Princess.

[@BowlOSoup6661]

@Zeltik I found a secret in botw, if you go to hino at the dueling peaks stable when a blood moon is happening he will start running around the stable chanting "ARISE MONSTERS." It was really creepy when I found it and I want you to maybe just MAYBE do a theory video on it but that's highly unlikely, but anyways great video like always and have a good day 👍

[@hatti...]

Basically everyone knows about this

[@BowlOSoup6661]

@@hatti... well has he done a video on it yet?

[@Levacque]

​@@BowlOSoup6661 probably, tbh. Most Zelda KZbinrs have done so, Hino is a really popular source of content.

[@BowlOSoup6661]

@@hatti... Come on bro it's been 5 months. I'm still waiting on your answer

[@hatti...]

@BowlOSoup6661 I don't think anyone has made a video specifically on the guy but numerous have included him in videos going over things you can find in the game. There's ultimately not much to theorize on that guy due to lack of context or related events. Applying occam's razor he just seems like a lunatic obsessed with the blood moon like how Kilton is obsessed with monsters

[@Shalucik]

The should have swapped the location of Gale Island and Headstone Island If Headstone Island was about North of Windfall and Windfall being the remains of Kakariko you could make an argument that the Earth Temple is the Shadow Temple with the original Entrance to the Shadow Temple in OoT having been swallowed by the great flood but it's not to be

[@jeremy1860]

Even in a title as kid-friendly as Wind Waker, they can't help but sneak in the creepy stuff 😅

[@thestallioncreatura]

i literally feel so bad for Medli for having to continue praying in the Earth Temple, aka the hime of literal ReDeads, for the rest of the game lol i mean, could you imagine being in her position? you'd be terrified, and she probably was too. but hey, after you beat the game, she literally doesn't need to go there ever again lol. she can just resume her normal life at Dragon Roost, which is what I'm pretty sure is what happens. but yeah, poor Medli. atleast Makar has it easy. the wind temple is probably a second home for him lol

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Medli would be fine. After Ganon's defeat, the temple would be clear anyway.

[@KyleGK01]

I have a question. Why the heck does the Zora evolve into the rito, the Zora live underwater. Once hyrule flooded, the whole of hyrule would have become theirs

[@jjabbott7249]

Zora are freshwater creatures. The ocean is full of saltwater.

[@SixMooreCheeseburgers]

I would love a prequel to windwaker in which the great flood occurs, we could uncover so much interesting lore and backstory of the game.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Given Nintendo's track record, they'd probably market a Hyrule Warriors game as being a prequel to Wind Waker in which the great flood occurs, only for it to actually be an alternate-timeline where a robot cucumber goes back in time and prevents the flood from ever occurring.

[@narzangrover10]

@@matthewmuir8884 ah yes, their track record bc they have done that a staggering *one* time

[@michaeltovah4]

@@narzangrover10 🤣🤣🤣. You're so right!

[@matthewmuir8884]

@@narzangrover10 Okay; "track record" may not have been the best choice of words, but the overall point remains valid. Also, sincerely, thank you for agreeing that Age of Calamity was falsely-advertised. It's been two years and I still get replies to my old comments saying things like, _"They never lied about the game; you're just an idiot"_ and other nonsense. So, genuinely, thank you.

[@mywifesboyfriend5558]

Nah. OOT was the prequel.

[@ZorLink21]

23:39 he could’ve made a section with Helmet King

[@OfficialDreamCloud]

I love my favorite creators collaborating. I hope to see all of y’all in a group picture one day

[@yoohoo236]

Zeltik keeping me fed until totk comes out

[@zopplo8300]

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[@netweed09]

Tears honestly looks so interesting with it's varying Sky structures. I really hope it can match really special and unique areas like the Earth temple here.

[@Ol_Durty_Badger]

I always thought the Rito’s evolutionary jump was sort dumb and backwards. Why would an aquatic people evolve into a avian people in a world filled with water? I’d say it would make more sense that the Gorons or Hylians Evolved wings, rather than the Zora.

[@PyroShadow117]

HEY! Thank you for making this, this game has been a favorite between me and my brother! Though out of the two of us I am the Lore Whore, it's just, this is one of the original versions that we both have played, it has brought me back

[@mekhspace9746]

It's possible the dragon in dragon roost was originally planned as the dungeon boss but was later replaced with gohma during development

[@TROBassGuitar]

Holy crap I never put dragon roost island being death mountain together nor that the island were locations from oot that's new info to me that I'd never heard, that's so cool

[@sierraphelps4803]

I love how Hyrule was flooded and the Fish people are like nah we’re birds now

[@808Mark]

I love these videos and the amazing attention to details! I didn't even notice most of these things when i played windwaker as a kid

[@andrewwood1364]

I have been waiting longingly for Wind Waker to be ported to the switch. My hopes have dwindled. Love this video, just makes me want to replay the game

[@bluegrass326]

Earth temple = the past and dead Wind temple = new life and future That is if the wind temple base on the wind dispersal...

[@Syphorith]

This installment has the best Ganon

[@Supasmartguy]

Are you working on part 3 of the classic enemies reimagine series? If so, when do you think it will release?

[@Jacob_The_Human]

Man... Your videos keep getting better and better, keep up the great work!

[@slackstarfish8133]

Can we all agree that the wind Waker is one of the best Zelda games, along with OOT and obviously breath of the wild.

[@patrick8358]

I would love to see a triple-collab of Zeltik, Monster Maze, and Bandit, either in one long video, or 3 separate videos kind of like they've done here. The topic? Could be Lore, could be best sidequests, not really sure. Alternatively, all 3 of them at once, making a tier list.

[@Echo_the_half_glitch]

Another thing about Dragon roost. If Dragon roost cavern is Dodongo cavern then the name makes sense even without Valu. Because the bossfight in OOT is a big, undead fire dragon, and also dodongos are kinda like flightless rock dragons in a way.

[@panicmanic652]

I remember little me going through the game and thinking the redeads looked silly until it screamed at me. That was such a shock for some reason. And then I was mildly afraid of them forever

[@chuckrichardson83]

Volvalgia is actually one of the zonai or a sage that decided to swallow his Stone and turned into a evil dragon similar to what Ganon did in tears of the Kingdom.... it is this reason why swallowing a stone was considered forbidden because the last person that did it became an evil dragon that terrorized the people of Hyrule.... it's not related to valoo in any way shape or form... you can clearly see that this Dragon depicts more of the type that are flying in the sky of breath of the wild and tears of the Kingdom as opposed to this overweight dragon from dragon tails that sits on top of of a mountain

[@peach_total]

it’s wild watching through this just how many ideas and themes botw took from ww

[@BruceBoyde]

Oh hey, KZbin notifications actually happening when a video drops instead of several hours to days later. An excellent sign

[@lesbinyan]

one thing that could add proof to the re-deads once being sheikah is that the sheikah have red eyes. when the re-deads scream (20:41), we see their eyes glow red. this could simply be a stylistic choice, but i think it's a neat detail that validates the possibility of re-deads of the earth temple/WW being an early form to the mummified monks of BOTW ~nya

[@plpfangyrl]

Personally, I think the Redeads are meant to be never aging guardians of their roaming grounds. Both in Oot and WW. One way to get this is to create zombies.

[@azure3456]

Saw the title and thought "waaaaiiiiit.... Isn't Bandit doing the same thing?" And then I heard you mention Bandit and was like "oh, yeah, I forgot that's how he's doing these"

[@gastonphoenix7084]

I’m a simple man. I see zeltik, I click.

[@kadbenson7540]

Zeltik I doubt you’ll see this especially on such an old video but you should do a lore of the dungeons of major as mask😊

[@alanpierce4961]

The shrine music in the Gohdan part was a nice touch

[@klauscorvid]

Am I the only one reminded if the boss for the Fortress of Wind in Minish Cap which was supposed to have been a protector of said Fortress, Gohdan is very simillar

[@OnePolishMoFo]

Windwaker is the game I think of when I think Zelda. It's a shame there's very little that takes place in it's timeline.

[@indeedken]

I know I want more games that take place after Spirit Tracks

[@atomheart7907]

@@indeedken steampunk style Zelda? Absolutely

[@Levacque]

Ooooh, what about a distant future where the water has begun to recede? It's still a waterworld, but instead of a vast ocean, we explore a series of big seas, small sheltered bays, and narrow, dangerous straits all in between these towering mountain islands.

[@indeedken]

@@Levacque I really love that idea

[@davisbowe8668]

My half-baked theory is that the Gorons were originally supposed to inhabit Dragon Roost Island, while the Rito would've inhabited Greatfish Island. But after the Greatfish Island dungeon got cut, they decided to put the Rito on Dragon Roost while reducing the Gorons to trading quest side characters. I mean, it makes too much sense. An island littered with bomb flowers (aka "Goron's special crop"), a lava-based dungeon that was clearly inspired by the Dodongo's Cavern from OoT (and could very well be the same cavern in universe), and a fire-based dragon deity. Not to mention the Rito having Jabun as their deity would've made far more sense considering that they're descendants of the Zora.

[@suspiciousbird487]

I really love this theory. Thank you ❤

[@ShadowWizard224]

Dragon Roost Cavern and Earth Temple are my favorites in WindWaker

[@danielbeckman6742]

I’ve had a theory ever since my first playthru of WW that Fire Mountain is Death Mountain from Ocarina and Dragon Roost is a different mountain altogether, not included in the overworld map of Hyrule. And that the Rito were always their own species and not zora evolved, that instead of being a descendant in the literal sense, Laruto referred to Medli more like a spiritual successor.

[@literallyanangrymoose7717]

Laruto very specifically referred to Medli as being of her bloodline, I believe. Laruto was Medli's biological ancestor, not spiritual.

[@danielbeckman6742]

@@literallyanangrymoose7717 that's wind waker's only real flaw. The zoras' evolution into the Rito is dumb as hell.

[@KeuponDesChamps]

For real I love your theory videos, they are so much known among our Zelda lovers community, even French Zelda youtubers use them to explain some kind of stuff in their own videos X)

[@dany_fg]

the skull door in ganon's tower seems to have tusks and not horn, which is more like the boar form of ganon.