Metallica Mixer Explains Missing Bass on 'And Justice for All'

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@rubenskodicdeler2145
@rubenskodicdeler2145 4 жыл бұрын
The short anwser:Lars The long anwser:Lars Ulrich
@mgolec
@mgolec 4 жыл бұрын
Lars Ulrich is also a short answer.
@VortechBand
@VortechBand 4 жыл бұрын
Lars: "Lul rich"
@RaxiusMajor
@RaxiusMajor 4 жыл бұрын
a more specific answer: Lars Ulrich, drummer
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 4 жыл бұрын
@Kasi Kai James too? Where can I see the evidence?
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 4 жыл бұрын
With regard to anwsers generally: It's better to have an anwser than to have no anwser. Anwsers are important for clarity. ;-)
@huolong437
@huolong437 4 жыл бұрын
And Justice for All? More like Adjust It for Lars
@DavidRandBridgnorth
@DavidRandBridgnorth 4 жыл бұрын
Marco Roman - Underrared comment.
@nekoshka7985
@nekoshka7985 4 жыл бұрын
Super underrated comment
@juanjamm
@juanjamm 4 жыл бұрын
Most underrated comment in KZbin by far.
@reverendjimjones1043
@reverendjimjones1043 4 жыл бұрын
No Jason for ya'all
@igorjajic6898
@igorjajic6898 4 жыл бұрын
hahahah good one
@RemorfChuket
@RemorfChuket 2 жыл бұрын
"Vocals. Guitar. Bass. Drums. Long ago, the four members lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when Lars opened his mouth."
@AriocKaichi
@AriocKaichi Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lars is the culprit for the horrendous bass mixing...and no one kicked him in the ass for it.
@dbateman
@dbateman Жыл бұрын
And the others let him get away with it.
@AVB91
@AVB91 9 ай бұрын
When Lars says "Ulllm"
@johnnydjiurkopff
@johnnydjiurkopff 8 ай бұрын
Only the buckethead, master of all four instruments, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new buckethead, a bass player named Davie504. And although his string skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Davie can save the world.
@ForgeAheadwithMike
@ForgeAheadwithMike 8 ай бұрын
Everything changed when Cliff died.
@robertomedina6112
@robertomedina6112 5 жыл бұрын
Metallica was ahead of their time creating karaoke for bass players...
@redpilled3569
@redpilled3569 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better my self. It seems most metal bands need a lot more bass.
@asmpoohbear4332
@asmpoohbear4332 5 жыл бұрын
lol i have a playlist with bass backing tracks and i just used the studio versions from and justice for all
@pempotfoy6206
@pempotfoy6206 5 жыл бұрын
@@redpilled3569 Thrash metal most of the time have good bass and really good mixes (Obviouslly not Metallica). Old bands have good bass (Black sabbath, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, etc), some progressive bands as well. Technical Death metal has a lot of bass too. The lack of bass in our era is mostly bass players fault, they have really bad tones, they all sound like 1 week experience, in studio. In Live, engineers dont care at bass at all (not always, even the shitiest bass tone can sound amazing live with the right engineer). But its all about the tone, most of bass players sound like Slayer´s bass, their eq is bassically this: Bass:12 Mids:0 Treble:0 They never change strings, never boost mids (they dont even know what that is) and their bass lines are pretty mediocre as well.
@TJS3
@TJS3 5 жыл бұрын
Also Lars was first one to drop the bass.
@ercankarabayir006
@ercankarabayir006 5 жыл бұрын
@Audio Maverick sad but true
@aragusea
@aragusea 7 жыл бұрын
"And Hetfield went like this..." You chose that moment to cut to b-roll? Please, please recut this. I really want to know what Hetfield's reaction was.
@TheLambchopper
@TheLambchopper 7 жыл бұрын
he basically just shrugged and gave a "i guess its what he wants" expression
@KaneMartin1
@KaneMartin1 7 жыл бұрын
My assumption is it was a thumbs-up or a head nod.
@michaelangeloh.5383
@michaelangeloh.5383 7 жыл бұрын
What he was doing is putting his hands up. In another interview, which was over the phone, he literally said "Hetfield put his hands up...", as in, he didn't want to get into that argument. He backed off, basically. - Because apparently the production of that album didn't have a good atmosphere. I suppose he just didn't want to cause any more negativity, so he let Lars get his way.
@Chatman666
@Chatman666 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Ragusea I thought the same exact thing.
@wardkdouglas
@wardkdouglas 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Ragusea my thoughts exactly
@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838
@alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838 5 жыл бұрын
To summarize the video: “Everything was great” 1-"but Lars..." 2-"then Lars..." 3-"so Lars..."
@Soter94
@Soter94 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny because Metallica are great, but Lars....
@Grimmjow_13
@Grimmjow_13 5 жыл бұрын
Ohh shit, this make my day
@cjstibitz2130
@cjstibitz2130 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackhaugh at least James has a hot daughter
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Onuscheck not anymore. They’re all humble old people. Is not the 80s anymore. They grown up. Stop acting like they’re still the same.
@ej22_gc86
@ej22_gc86 5 жыл бұрын
I’d like to drop a like, but there’s this perfect number of 333
@FranHevia
@FranHevia 7 жыл бұрын
This video was perfectly edited. Then Lars came into the room.
@pssed
@pssed 7 жыл бұрын
This should be top comment! :D
@Conker.
@Conker. 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect comment
@Bulhakas
@Bulhakas 7 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@drakeholliday5671
@drakeholliday5671 7 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@TheAldrahn
@TheAldrahn 7 жыл бұрын
I never comment on youtube, but this broke me. I'm in tears!
@DizzyDez613
@DizzyDez613 Жыл бұрын
I really, REALLY wish I could hear the version of this album that THIS man wanted to mix. “I wanted to make Puppets sound like a demo.” Fucking beautiful.
@Clarence-Homelab
@Clarence-Homelab Жыл бұрын
there are versions to be found called "And Justice for Jason" where you can choose the level of bass you want ^^
@DizzyDez613
@DizzyDez613 Жыл бұрын
@@Clarence-Homelab Yea, I’ve listened to “…. And Justice for Jason”, and some other “bass boosted” mixes. But I’m curious what the exact one that THIS man wanted sounds like. Edit: Cuz this guy fucking hated the drums as well.
@red3994
@red3994 Жыл бұрын
listening to MOP the track itself it honestly is a demo within its own right since the rest of that album tears that song to shreds, the song itself even sounds better through a RTL tone rather than its own finished track.
@Clarence-Homelab
@Clarence-Homelab Жыл бұрын
​@chuckbuskeeas far as I know there are 6 different bass levels to choose from.
@TVsMrNeil
@TVsMrNeil 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Justice For Jason doesn't fix the kick drum splat sound. It's hard to fix that unless you can isolate the kick drum replace it with a nice, meatier sound. Perhaps AI could do it.
@Ean9881
@Ean9881 5 жыл бұрын
Great editing! Go to a cut scene during a part where he’s using physical gestures to tell the story!! Genius move
@penalozaur
@penalozaur 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't want to throw Hetfield under the bus...
@rockoutwithyourckout
@rockoutwithyourckout 5 жыл бұрын
Haha so glad someone said this.
@haukurjohannesson9089
@haukurjohannesson9089 5 жыл бұрын
The cameraman fucked up not the editor, you can hear the sound of a camera starting to record at 2:15 so he probably stopped recording on accident ;)
@DRC-of2ci
@DRC-of2ci 5 жыл бұрын
I saw it too lol
@sebw89
@sebw89 5 жыл бұрын
@@penalozaur Was that reference to Cliff Burton intentional? ^^
@OldBuford
@OldBuford 5 жыл бұрын
"and then Hetfield went like this" * no cut away to show what Hetfield did * Director of editing: Lars Ulrich
@forgetful47
@forgetful47 5 жыл бұрын
the cutting of it is pretty shotty, i was thinking to myself "please cut back and show his expression. . .wtf"
@kertsang2053
@kertsang2053 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing what he's describing is Hetfield threw up his hands and gave a "Hey, don't look at me, pal" look.
@OldBuford
@OldBuford 5 жыл бұрын
@@kertsang2053 sadly we will probably never know for sure
@josh18230
@josh18230 5 жыл бұрын
He probably gave a thumbs up.
@Intentspunk19
@Intentspunk19 5 жыл бұрын
*stares at St. Anger*
@korgied
@korgied 4 жыл бұрын
I have literally never heard a story about Lars that actually improved my opinion of the guy.
@JPREEDY77
@JPREEDY77 4 жыл бұрын
Lars is a douche!
@Dog-O
@Dog-O 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to Jim Breuer’s story about them out drinking one night if you haven’t already. It will confirm your opinion.
@mattrock12
@mattrock12 4 жыл бұрын
Dog-o “the backpack” 😂😂😂
@Dog-O
@Dog-O 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Rock 🤣 yep. What a douche.
@Kottesque
@Kottesque 4 жыл бұрын
'Large Oil rig' - The John McEnroe of Drummers. TWAT!
@karamelizesogan
@karamelizesogan 3 жыл бұрын
This video editing is unbelievable. We feel like we are missing so much of the stuff that *you* shot, literally for us to watch. What is this, your own version of Lars’ing or something?
@jansonrawlings8169
@jansonrawlings8169 2 жыл бұрын
It was edited almost as poorly as the bass was mixed on Justice for all 😂
@andysott
@andysott 2 жыл бұрын
LOL......brilliant!
@GrayD_Fox
@GrayD_Fox 2 жыл бұрын
Im willing to bet it was edited just to make Lars look like the bad guy.
@1realtruthrightnow742
@1realtruthrightnow742 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@BaileysMariner
@BaileysMariner Жыл бұрын
LarsWashing
@ITSergioFelix
@ITSergioFelix 4 жыл бұрын
"...and Hetfield went like this" Well... how? How did Hetfield went like? Thanks Loudwire for not showing that important part.
@chrisnichols2241
@chrisnichols2241 4 жыл бұрын
IKR
@texarcana2002
@texarcana2002 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Lars had that cut, too
@xx-ug9hn
@xx-ug9hn 4 жыл бұрын
**Hetfield makes wanking gesture**
@canonegro666
@canonegro666 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine he threw his hands up in in the air palms up.
@garethfitzsimons8614
@garethfitzsimons8614 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah im an editor and i was ripping my bloody hair out at that bit. Interns on the job again!
@coolst0rybruh
@coolst0rybruh 6 жыл бұрын
and Hetfield went like WHAT???? was Lars editing the video?
@INTHEATRIUMofficial
@INTHEATRIUMofficial 6 жыл бұрын
HE EDITED EVERYTHING !
@taufikefendi6204
@taufikefendi6204 6 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question. "and Hetfield went like WHAT????"
@gianluigidautilia6417
@gianluigidautilia6417 6 жыл бұрын
I am laughing
@Phobophiliac
@Phobophiliac 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
@TheBatman2292
@TheBatman2292 6 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@bkpickell
@bkpickell 4 жыл бұрын
So Lars is the reason that the only damned thing you can hear on St Anger is that damn pot and pan set he's beating on. I haven't heard that album in like ten years and I can still hear that snare pinging in my head.
@yasindiouri6088
@yasindiouri6088 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@STEVSGONE
@STEVSGONE 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that snare sounds like a trash can.
@tomiasthexder7673
@tomiasthexder7673 4 жыл бұрын
Classic. I can't get that damn drum.sound out of my head...makes the whole record unlistenable
@mickeysymbiose
@mickeysymbiose 4 жыл бұрын
This made me lol
@dynamo4543
@dynamo4543 4 жыл бұрын
of course it was Lars,,if you listen to the some kind of monster edited version it dosent have that pinging noise & its what st anger should have sounded like instead of the garbage we got
@ultraparanoia
@ultraparanoia 2 жыл бұрын
The three biggest Metallica crimes soundwise: - St. Anger's Snare sound - Death Magnetic's sound compression. - And Justice For All's basslessness.
@englishquizfactory
@englishquizfactory Жыл бұрын
Agree on 2 of them but not death magnetic. I liked it the way it was
@LateCambrian
@LateCambrian Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Lulu....
@englishquizfactory
@englishquizfactory Жыл бұрын
Special mention goes to the omission of solos on St. Anger for the icing on the cake
@mlody969
@mlody969 Жыл бұрын
@@englishquizfactory Death Magnetic mastering is a crime. Really you don't hear that compression?
@englishquizfactory
@englishquizfactory Жыл бұрын
@@mlody969 BS. Rick Rubin was the producer of that record. He is literally the greatest producer on Earth
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 3 жыл бұрын
The way they treated Jason is unforgivable. I don't care who passed. No excuse. You shouldn't have hired him if you were just gonna hate bang him for decades.
@anitabonghit2758
@anitabonghit2758 2 жыл бұрын
Its as if Jason put tve ice on the road
@TheyCallMeMrMaybe
@TheyCallMeMrMaybe 2 жыл бұрын
Granted, their label gave them no time to grieve for Cliff's death. They were forced to go back on tour and then start And Justice for All, or risk being kicked off their label. Of course Jason deserved 0 hazing, but it was just a really bad situation all&around.
@mr.iiconic
@mr.iiconic 2 жыл бұрын
You dub thee unforgiven.
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 2 жыл бұрын
@@anitabonghit2758 exactly
@pitpride1220
@pitpride1220 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.iiconic perfect 🤣
@S.C.500
@S.C.500 5 жыл бұрын
Who else wants to hear the way this guy woulda mixed it? I really want to.
@jackluminous6364
@jackluminous6364 4 жыл бұрын
I think we´ll never will, but there are a couple of videos on YT called"...and justice for Jason" in which they re mastered the whole album and you can actually hear the bass. That´s the closest we´ll get I bet.
@turdfergusonize
@turdfergusonize 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Luminous if u search the internet you can find the album
@turdfergusonize
@turdfergusonize 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Luminous here a KZbin, there are dls if u know how to scour kzbin.info/www/bejne/foSve6yah7OajrM
@miguelochoa7978
@miguelochoa7978 4 жыл бұрын
The best mix that is NOT ...And justice for Jason is called
@davewalker3873
@davewalker3873 4 жыл бұрын
Add a good drummer, let him mix it better. The album might have sounded good
@mondobananas1832
@mondobananas1832 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Kirk was the only one who mildly respected Jason.
@benjaminknotts745
@benjaminknotts745 4 жыл бұрын
Sort of ended up that way
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a little bit...
@NIGHTSTALKER973
@NIGHTSTALKER973 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Kirk and Jason got on well it's such a damn shame Jason couldn't have picked both a best and worst time to join Metallica they just hit it big and were riding the wave and he got on it at the best time on the other hand he was the punching bag for the grief felt by the guys because of Cliffs death it took Jason leaving the band for the guys to realize what a mistake they made.
@fabricio2467
@fabricio2467 4 жыл бұрын
the funny thing is that lars and jason still have a good relationship
@mondobananas1832
@mondobananas1832 4 жыл бұрын
Fabricio I know, I think they’re both over it now.
@johnzackarias11
@johnzackarias11 Жыл бұрын
Lars really is an enigma. Without him, Metallica wouldn't even exist and without his artistic vision we would have missed out on a lot of highlights of their career. Ironically, however, *because* he is in the band we have also been subject to the absolute lowlights of their career. All in all I have a lot of respect for the guy, but wow, he really has made some dubious choices! Also he can't keep the tempo live. I don't think he ever really has.
@LucasSilvaa2003
@LucasSilvaa2003 Жыл бұрын
what people fail to understand is that life is imperfect and so is art. They are people, they have massive achievements and also make big mistakes. What is incredible, is that is something we all share, mistakes and things we do right but they have on their own way achieved something really remarkable and that is undeniable
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 Жыл бұрын
I am sure Lars is so sad. One of the best drummers of all time in one of the greatest metal bands of all time due it large part to him. What a total failure Lars is. If only he had a life as awesome as mine...
@LucasSilvaa2003
@LucasSilvaa2003 Жыл бұрын
@@eriklarson9137 he is a great artist but just a regular drummer.
@johnzackarias11
@johnzackarias11 Жыл бұрын
Completely missing my point@@eriklarson9137
@twiz66
@twiz66 Жыл бұрын
@@eriklarson9137 To paraphrase the Beatles joke: “Lars wasn’t the best drummer in the world… Let’s face it, he wasn’t even the best drummer in Metallica.”
@stanky9875
@stanky9875 4 жыл бұрын
As Metallica progressed and succeeded in their careers after Cliff died, the "what would Cliff do?" or, "what would Cliff say?" was always asked. The fact that newsted got snubbed on Justice, I can only imagine that Cliff was rolling in his grave in udder disappointment with Lars and James. To think they'd treat his successor with such disrespect would anger him to no end.👎
@Vastatio
@Vastatio 4 жыл бұрын
utter*
@pikkuzon1987
@pikkuzon1987 4 жыл бұрын
Thats about right. After Cliff's death however, Metallica-guys wanted to take a break. Their management convinced them that they can't take a break, now that they are on their peek... (and lose dem managers income as well).. So basically, they had no tools to handle that pain of Cliffs death. But alcohol.. (-and overuse of amfetamin?). Now, that pain was being expressed into Jason Newstead for the following years. That they had later come in to realise.
@rodscooltunes1640
@rodscooltunes1640 4 жыл бұрын
@@pikkuzon1987 I don't feel that bad for Jason, he just made MILLIONS to be a "whipping boy".
@2112SNEEK
@2112SNEEK 4 жыл бұрын
​@@pikkuzon1987 Well I think that stupid decisions havin more to do with personality, self-pity and attitude, or the lack, regardless of the substances you take. Maybe for Lars it felt about being staying loyal Burton and for James, whom I classify and as jolly, good-natured, if somewhat naïve really did not want to interfere in such questions because he was to devestated about the loss of Burton.
@triptychlux
@triptychlux 4 жыл бұрын
lars is just a dickhead
@exshenanigan2333
@exshenanigan2333 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 the audio engineer: makes face and hand expressions to recreate the moment better video editor: it would be too bad if someone would cut extremely old and irrelevant metallica footage on it.
@Jaburu
@Jaburu 4 жыл бұрын
probably problems in the footage. at 0:09 there is a problem, too
@rockboy360
@rockboy360 3 жыл бұрын
It was edited by lars
@filipebeat
@filipebeat 3 жыл бұрын
X,D
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 Жыл бұрын
@@rockboy360 lmfao
@Glarblenuck
@Glarblenuck 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Lars accused James of being a control freak
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 4 жыл бұрын
Alt Both of them kinda are.
@joekerr2476
@joekerr2476 4 жыл бұрын
@Your Daddy dude I agree with you. The way they treated Jason too, fucking wankers.
@liquidbraino
@liquidbraino 4 жыл бұрын
I've met James. He's a super nice guy but definitely has that vibe of someone you don't want to fuck with. I just can't see him being a control freak. Lars is the control freak. Remember when Napster and Morpheus first came into existence? They were losing control of distribution and Lars was the one that tried to have all P2P file sharing networks shut down.
@miket.220
@miket.220 4 жыл бұрын
@@liquidbraino Lars seems like an ass, but I'll give him credit for fighting Napster, he was 100% correct about it being theft. I couldn't believe Napster existed when it came out. I used it like everyone else, but only downloaded stuff I already owned on vinyl and cassette cause I was too lazy to hook up all the gear and digitize it myself. But to sit and download stuff you don't own, that's just theft. It could be argued that if more bands stood with Lars, the music industry might be different today.
@IcedEarth426
@IcedEarth426 4 жыл бұрын
They were all control freaks in one way or another.
@User-jk8wq
@User-jk8wq Жыл бұрын
Just a quick reminder that Steve also mixed Appetite For Destruction by GnR and Poison by Alice Cooper. Just imagine how great Justice would have sounded if Lars didn’t fuck everything up
@RuubRoyce
@RuubRoyce 5 жыл бұрын
When someone uses non verbal communication to emphazise or explain a certain situation you do not overlap the audio with random visuals. You can not hear "the look on his face".
@derekg7853
@derekg7853 5 жыл бұрын
Hetfield threw up his hands to basically say "I'm not getting in the middle of this, just do what Lars wants" He told this story in another interview and they didn't edit over it in that one.
@TehUltimateSnake
@TehUltimateSnake 4 жыл бұрын
shafta99 lmao i was gonna say that
@dxaustindd2305
@dxaustindd2305 4 жыл бұрын
And years later Lars develop his sound, and creates the St. Anger's drums.
@bernardonunes128
@bernardonunes128 4 жыл бұрын
"Drums"
@astrea5849
@astrea5849 4 жыл бұрын
pots and pans*
@jeaniebird999
@jeaniebird999 4 жыл бұрын
Is that why St. Anger sucked?
4 жыл бұрын
tick plock tick plock tick plock ponk
@vallangaard
@vallangaard 4 жыл бұрын
St. Anal was painful.....
@like-icecream
@like-icecream 4 жыл бұрын
Whole world: Turn up the bass Lars: Turn down the bass
@HiImBQ
@HiImBQ 4 жыл бұрын
They should've used more cow bell.
@XX-121
@XX-121 2 жыл бұрын
lars was the reason death magnetic ended up the way it did too. and even after everyone started complaining, i remember seeing a video of him defending it, saying it sounds fine in his car.
@atomicwedgie8176
@atomicwedgie8176 2 жыл бұрын
Lars: Make my drums sound like a banjo...that's ROCK!
@jmcregrut
@jmcregrut 2 жыл бұрын
@@HiImBQ I've got the feva
@joecrowaz
@joecrowaz 3 жыл бұрын
I just broke a rib laughing my ass off! This is exactly why I quit recording and producing bands. And one of the last bands I worked with (ironically), Flotsam & Jetsam 😂 Just before Jason left. I'll never forget him asking me for some duct tape. He put a baseball hat on, then the headphones. Then wrapped the tape around the headphones so he could headbang doing his Bass tracks.
@jalderink
@jalderink 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks JC, great story! It's hard NOT to love Jason & it seems like James and Lars are the only people who don't.
@teep3049
@teep3049 2 жыл бұрын
Is that really a true story 😂?
@peoplelegend8476
@peoplelegend8476 2 жыл бұрын
@@teep3049 Wouldn't be surprised if Jason did that 🤣 God he's such a fucking goofball and I fucking love him!
@kooijbas
@kooijbas 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated band, but talking about production: the recent Flotsam & Jetsam albums have insane amounts of compression on them. Sound awful.
@konajinx
@konajinx Жыл бұрын
So he did what Keith Moon had done years before. Amazing.
@sinlokemp
@sinlokemp 6 жыл бұрын
We want ‘And Justice for Bass’ remixed and remastered release.
@Ilshatey
@Ilshatey 6 жыл бұрын
...And Justice for Jason
@Ilshatey
@Ilshatey 6 жыл бұрын
...And Jason for All
@emperoralvis6559
@emperoralvis6559 6 жыл бұрын
Dozens already exist. Just none of them are official.
@spencerwatson771
@spencerwatson771 6 жыл бұрын
There’s a few floating around out there And some of those are actually good
@etherealcatholic5711
@etherealcatholic5711 6 жыл бұрын
Борис Лядский Free on KZbin & well worth a listen if you're a fan of "And Justice for All..." It was surreal how much better it sounds as opposed to original 1988 mix.
@bigtay522
@bigtay522 4 жыл бұрын
Band: We need more bass Lars: Fine, I'll get a third bass drum.
@paradigmshiftz7
@paradigmshiftz7 3 жыл бұрын
As if he needs it
@jorcormy9165
@jorcormy9165 3 жыл бұрын
Lars' like a version of mr.crabs in metal
@Kruegernator123
@Kruegernator123 3 жыл бұрын
James: *grabs his baritone guitar*
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@APPEALtoFEAR
@APPEALtoFEAR 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good one.
@slamonfpv
@slamonfpv 4 жыл бұрын
Lars: take out the gestures untill you can't see them at all.
@BazIrvine
@BazIrvine 4 жыл бұрын
He gestures like Newsted though so it has to go...
@to21_48
@to21_48 4 жыл бұрын
@@BazIrvine *Newsted*
@BazIrvine
@BazIrvine 4 жыл бұрын
@@to21_48 there you go, my auto spell wanted it to be Newspapers so hey.
@knightsb4bishops766
@knightsb4bishops766 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bronzeageancientone4844
@bronzeageancientone4844 Жыл бұрын
I bought the cassette the morning it came out. I went back to my dorm and my roommate and I listened to it. We kept messing with the EQ thinking it was my stereo. We went down the hall to some guys who had CD players. They all sounded equally shitty. I went back to the record store and asked if they got a bad batch. The guy told us, " they all sound this shitty."
@DNashvegas
@DNashvegas Жыл бұрын
Wow 😂 haha thats crazy.. still cool you bought it day it came out
@bradmodd7856
@bradmodd7856 Жыл бұрын
This was when it exploded for Metallica and the cold dry harsh edgy sound of this record was a huge part of what made them cut through and stand out from the rest of the standard mixes at that time
@Metal_Horror
@Metal_Horror Жыл бұрын
​@@bradmodd7856This was ironically the album that introduced me to metal as a ten year old. For years and years it was my benchmark for metal guitar tone and riffage, and I actually remember loving the sound of the drums. Nowadays my opinion is pretty predictable: I wish they'd mixed the bass right. The biggest tragedy is that Jason KICKED FUCKING ASS on this record. His right hand gives James's a run for its money, and that is definitely saying a lot. It's ridiculous.
@GamingManual
@GamingManual 11 ай бұрын
You know it's bad when you doubt the mix on a cassette, lmao! Great story!
@clockofthelongnow2695
@clockofthelongnow2695 9 ай бұрын
😢
@michaeltsouris8190
@michaeltsouris8190 5 жыл бұрын
On the bright side, makes it a perfect album to play bass along with. You can even write your own lines and as long as you're in key and on time, it fits nicely. This album was made specifically for bass players to practice to.
@mikebarnes7441
@mikebarnes7441 5 жыл бұрын
Well that's pretty much how you play bass to any music lol. Stay in key and on beat
@gorcrow
@gorcrow 5 жыл бұрын
The Sid Vicious school of bass teaches differently
@snakeplissken44
@snakeplissken44 5 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@meavyhetalderzweitegrafvon8240
@meavyhetalderzweitegrafvon8240 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebarnes7441 you dont get the point didnt you?
@mikebarnes7441
@mikebarnes7441 5 жыл бұрын
@@meavyhetalderzweitegrafvon8240 I guess not. My bad
@ElPerroMuchacho666
@ElPerroMuchacho666 7 жыл бұрын
This video was edited by Lars.
@agony664
@agony664 7 жыл бұрын
Metálisis yes hahahahahhaahaha!
@clintonwalsh2264
@clintonwalsh2264 7 жыл бұрын
Metálisis bahaha
@intoxic8dakalilchuckie755
@intoxic8dakalilchuckie755 6 жыл бұрын
Lars is gonna Sue again lol
@WildBluntHickok
@WildBluntHickok 5 жыл бұрын
I own the bass tabliture book for And Justice For All. ...I assume it's correct...
@crotchy7667
@crotchy7667 4 жыл бұрын
LOL. Nobody can prove you made a mistake.
@LMC-xz6qh
@LMC-xz6qh 4 жыл бұрын
@James Phillippe I mean the parts exist and were recorded
@visinedrip
@visinedrip 4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 😂
@doodoodan
@doodoodan 4 жыл бұрын
@War Zone 9 Chapters of Nothing but empty pages
@woodside4life
@woodside4life 4 жыл бұрын
Wild Blunt Hickok I didn’t know you could own air.
@astralkidd
@astralkidd 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they have not yet had the bass lines redone and re-issued it. That’s baffling to me does anybody else feel that way?
@jamesb1988
@jamesb1988 Жыл бұрын
It's not gonna happen, their reason being that every album they have released, with whatever flaws they have, are snapshots of the band from that time. And besides, there's a bunch of fan made versions of the album on KZbin with more prominent bass that are just fine.
@darkbeach72
@darkbeach72 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesb1988 This is a snapshot where someone took scissors to the polaroid and there are no negatives to print from. It's not an accurate representation.
@derekrushe
@derekrushe Жыл бұрын
As he said in the video, the master tapes for justice has so many edits (due to lars shitty drumming), trying to do a remix of Justice would almost be impossible now 35 years later
@ReekRendTest1
@ReekRendTest1 Жыл бұрын
@@darkbeach72 Didn't the person somehow extract the bass tracks from the Guitar Hero versions ?
@silverback68
@silverback68 Жыл бұрын
​@@ReekRendTest1probably not the exact same tracks.
@tomekgnr321
@tomekgnr321 7 жыл бұрын
"and Hetfield went like this"
@KilljoyRPMX
@KilljoyRPMX 7 жыл бұрын
Tomislav Gredisnjak Isn't it obvious? James wore a black wig and started playing air guitar
@michaelangeloh.5383
@michaelangeloh.5383 7 жыл бұрын
Tomislav Gredisnjak - What he was doing is putting his hands up. In another interview, which was over the phone, he literally said "Hetfield put his hands up...", as in, he didn't want to get into that argument. He backed off, basically. - Because apparently the production of that album didn't have a good atmosphere. I suppose he just didn't want to cause any more negativity, so he let Lars get his way.
@drewflanagan4296
@drewflanagan4296 7 жыл бұрын
I look forward to an explanation from whoever edited this video
@Stinkydo0d
@Stinkydo0d 7 жыл бұрын
From what I gather from other interviews on this, he said James just threw his arms up in the air and walked out.
@crackawood
@crackawood 7 жыл бұрын
Snake Charmer they're hiding james simulating masturbation and spraying skeet
@AceMcshred
@AceMcshred 4 жыл бұрын
Lars 1988: Turn down bass until you can't hear it Lars 2006: He left the fockin' band!
@louismaynard881
@louismaynard881 3 жыл бұрын
2003*
@lynchmaleideal
@lynchmaleideal 2 жыл бұрын
@@louismaynard881 2001, you mean
@natehtf5760
@natehtf5760 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong year, wrong quote.
@marlonisaac1
@marlonisaac1 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@dgmlxcbl
@dgmlxcbl 5 жыл бұрын
Till this day I wonder what James Hetfield did.
@melquizedec
@melquizedec 5 жыл бұрын
sam bam pretty sure he backed Lars. No way he could have decided something like that without talking with James.
@spamsingles5948
@spamsingles5948 5 жыл бұрын
I think Lars was the editor for this video
@ll-SNARL-ll
@ll-SNARL-ll 5 жыл бұрын
pretty sure he just shrugged his shoulders inna whatever who cares kinda manner
@spamsingles5948
@spamsingles5948 5 жыл бұрын
@Bret Zayger_Michigan your mum's a worn out comment
@berni2905
@berni2905 5 жыл бұрын
He went like this.
@yesterdaze114
@yesterdaze114 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a band has too heavy a hand in the final sound of their record. This man is a professional mixer and should have been aloud to put his own touch on the album. Would have been 10000x better too.
@nessy9022
@nessy9022 Жыл бұрын
Steve Thompson definitely should have been listened to, otherwise he's just a glorified technician. Which is a humiliating position to put the guy who mixed Appetite For Destruction in. But it sounds like Lars making decisions unilaterally for the entire band was the key issue here. Many albums have been mixed with full bands signing off on the final mixes (most notably The Beatles). I'm guessing if Kirk and Justin had been equally involved in the mixing process with James and Lars that AJFA would have been a vastly better listen. I like that that Steve mentioned Jimmy Page, ie by contrast, an artist who proved himself eminently capable of unilaterally guiding that type of process with impeccable results.
@thesaneparty4079
@thesaneparty4079 Жыл бұрын
"aloud" seems appropriate here.
@CMZIEBARTH
@CMZIEBARTH Жыл бұрын
​@@thesaneparty4079I was about to throw in a courteous "allowed" but your comment is better.
@beetheimmortal
@beetheimmortal 7 ай бұрын
This exactly. Why even hire a mixer if you're just going to shit on his work anyway?
@punk_rock_music_teacher
@punk_rock_music_teacher 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who has ever worked with Lars: “are you serious?”
@RetroRescuers
@RetroRescuers 7 жыл бұрын
"hetfield went like this" .... Plays live metallica footage....
@Atlas65
@Atlas65 7 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly ... wtf.
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 7 жыл бұрын
KiddRetro sooo painfully dumb!!!
@TheWeatherKnight
@TheWeatherKnight 7 жыл бұрын
Poor editinggg
@jaymzx2587
@jaymzx2587 7 жыл бұрын
I know right?? God..!
@MarkLewis...
@MarkLewis... 7 жыл бұрын
In his defense... Lars edited that part and Het was too drunk to do anything about it.
@Kohntarkosz
@Kohntarkosz 4 жыл бұрын
I remember an interview with Scott Ian and Danny Spitz from Anthrax, talking about how Elektra hired Thompson and Barberio to mix Persistence Of Time. And apparently the first thing they said to the Anthrax guys was, "Let's make this record sound the way ...And Justice For All COULD have sounded".
@Grizzleback07
@Grizzleback07 2 жыл бұрын
That is my favorite album by Anthrax! 🤘
@lafemmedevastation
@lafemmedevastation 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it have been funny if the first thing they told Steve was "uh.. can you turn the bass down to barely audible? ...six more decibels"
@turnsoonest
@turnsoonest 3 жыл бұрын
Just fantastic editing of this video
@Ping727
@Ping727 4 жыл бұрын
"...and Hetfield went like this" The editor didn't think to show his face at that part?
@stuartthehuman5280
@stuartthehuman5280 4 жыл бұрын
John Ping I thought that bit was confusing too lmao
@MrBrownstone8881
@MrBrownstone8881 4 жыл бұрын
Most likely it was a shoulder shrug with an eye roll. Hetfield hated the editing part because Lars was a freaking maniac every time they produced something.
@elisedelaserre9453
@elisedelaserre9453 4 жыл бұрын
I guess Lars asked to cut that part out
@jimborocks8372
@jimborocks8372 4 жыл бұрын
Hetfield went like this.....okay.
@EdRickerVlogs
@EdRickerVlogs 4 жыл бұрын
As pointed out by others in the comments, you can clearly hear at 2:15 that the camera recording was restarted. So whoever ran the camera fucked up, and the editor had nothing to work with at that point. Audio was still recorded since it was likely recorded separately on a different device.
@shazmeister2005
@shazmeister2005 4 жыл бұрын
This guys got my respect, he mixed Appetite for Destruction, one of if not the best sounding albums ever.
@MisfitsFiendClub138
@MisfitsFiendClub138 2 жыл бұрын
It's So Easy
@MrOasis316
@MrOasis316 2 жыл бұрын
That album has the most fantastic sound ever. Its so clear but still sounds raw. Didn’t know this guy mixed it.
@jeronimolegua6606
@jeronimolegua6606 Жыл бұрын
No, best album is Nevermind
@dioseolo
@dioseolo Жыл бұрын
@@jeronimolegua6606 lol
@JustinLesamiz
@JustinLesamiz Жыл бұрын
Until Axl Rose opens his dumb mouth anyway.
@ambule
@ambule 7 жыл бұрын
"And Hetfield went like this..." and Loudwire is showing live footage. Some editor is getting fired at Loudwire today. Way to fuck up an exclusive.
@Buraz93
@Buraz93 7 жыл бұрын
Probably shaking his head or something, or confirmation :D
@UptempoMusicLessons
@UptempoMusicLessons 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty obviously confirmation, otherwise he would have went into a story about in fighting. Logic man.
@jakep1178
@jakep1178 7 жыл бұрын
UptempoMusicLessons I think he shrugged
@najtrows
@najtrows 7 жыл бұрын
"He goes like this.. okay"
@rihamy2nd
@rihamy2nd 7 жыл бұрын
Mauricio Vargas That was when Lars walked into the room during the video editing.
@martanoconghaile
@martanoconghaile 3 жыл бұрын
My late mother once told me that loss and regret are the most distressing human emotions. You can really sense his regret at not having mixed it the way he wanted and kept a spare reel. What we wouldn't give to hear that now. Not that "Justice" is a bad album. In fact, it could be their best, according to Flemming Rasmussen, who produced it, which really turned a lot of musicians onto Metallica, including the technical death metal crowd. But it does sound a little flat.
@Zett76
@Zett76 Жыл бұрын
I‘d argue that the feeling of being DENIED is the worst emotion. Which plays a role in this story, too. His vision and expertise has been denied.
@brandocalrissian3294
@brandocalrissian3294 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If I were him I would have stayed late alot and mixed a copy the way I wanted to do it and one for dumbass Lars. It would be so cool to have that personal copy at home.
@AndriyVasylenko
@AndriyVasylenko 7 жыл бұрын
So, basically Lars was pissed off at 'sabotaging' the sound he wanted (regardless of what the SONG needed). And he, being on emotions, just took revenge by turning Jason's bass down?
@dokterx4085
@dokterx4085 7 жыл бұрын
Will this be in one of your new video's? XD Your channel Rocks man!
@ArcticSeabee
@ArcticSeabee 7 жыл бұрын
I just read this in your voice 😅
@Rekko82
@Rekko82 7 жыл бұрын
Lars would have needed therapy before Justice, not before St. Anger.
@agropsychonaut
@agropsychonaut 7 жыл бұрын
exactly. fuck pansy ass Lars
@IrLosin
@IrLosin 7 жыл бұрын
Because Mustaine was a level headed calm guy in that period, right? Oh wait.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aILPkJ-kpbGXb7s
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon 5 жыл бұрын
you can mix it your own way if it's mixed just how I say!
@tiabran
@tiabran 5 жыл бұрын
ChannelTonto Ha! What track is this from? Shortest Straw?
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon 5 жыл бұрын
@@tiabran Eye of the Beholder ;)
@tiabran
@tiabran 5 жыл бұрын
ChannelTonto Dang it, major fail. Gotta brush up on Justice 👍🏻
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon 5 жыл бұрын
@@tiabran all good, been listening to it a lot lately since I stumbled on ...And Justice For Jason. Give that one a go.
@Berbs73
@Berbs73 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@dgenerated
@dgenerated 4 жыл бұрын
And 15 years later Lars finally got that drum sound on "St Anger!". 😆
@herculesbrofister265
@herculesbrofister265 4 жыл бұрын
its pretty sweet too. like an angry hobo beating on garbage cans in a psychotic fit.
@taylorfarr6
@taylorfarr6 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@tonzokinawa
@tonzokinawa 3 жыл бұрын
@@herculesbrofister265 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@captdouche77
@captdouche77 3 жыл бұрын
Still never nailed his timing.
@angelainamarie9656
@angelainamarie9656 3 жыл бұрын
I saw someone make a whole recording with a trashcan lid, with the express purpose of duplicating his horrible snare sound. HOW COME nobody EVER sat Lars down and said, dude, you have the artistic sensibilities of a GOAT. Let SOMEONE ELSE make those decisions. Play drums.
@ts4gv
@ts4gv Жыл бұрын
2:06 great editing, guys. lol. good interview though it's nice to hear what happened.
@Matt-tw3oz
@Matt-tw3oz 3 жыл бұрын
i would kill to hear Steve's mix, with the drums sounding how he wanted and the bass at the level that he wanted. don't mixers/engineers mix an album how they want, bounce it down, and store it somewhere for personal consumption? or is that illegal? so long as you don't try to sell it for profit and you use your own time and materials to do it, i am not sure how it could be.
@ricksterdrummer2170
@ricksterdrummer2170 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not illegal to do, but they usually don’t do it because they don’t have the time to do it.
@richardb8104
@richardb8104 2 жыл бұрын
@@chucklefuck This was about 30 years ago, so it would have been a floppy disk lol
@onerays
@onerays 2 жыл бұрын
@@chucklefuck well, in those days the bouncing format must have been 2-track 1/2" tape
@whodat9198
@whodat9198 2 жыл бұрын
@@chucklefuck lol flash drive!!!
@yurdp
@yurdp 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not illegal. However, those mixers and engineers also the mixing studios and boards are not cheap. We’re talking 100s of dollars an hour, just for your engineer. Getting the time to do, what he wanted to do, would have been very costly. But if he snuck in there on his own time- who is to say? I personally would love to hear what he was hearing. Something about AJFA just never sounded… right.
@conbriosynthesizers3428
@conbriosynthesizers3428 4 жыл бұрын
You know this is probably the ONLY band that could sell a MILLION copies of an old REmixed record. They could get it done with a proper mix and it would outsell their next album.
@HorrorKidd88
@HorrorKidd88 3 жыл бұрын
it has been said that the masters were so chopped up and pieced together with tape (because lars' 50+ punches per take) that it would unravel into a giant mess.
@Strimbles
@Strimbles 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody sells a million physical copies anymore
@motogplounge6305
@motogplounge6305 3 жыл бұрын
@@GladeSwope so just record the whole thing again.
@jessewilliams8724
@jessewilliams8724 3 жыл бұрын
@@Strimbles Hardwired sold over a million
@j.b.n.1492
@j.b.n.1492 5 жыл бұрын
Best name drop ever. " So it was kinda funny, coz i was hangin out with Jimmy Page there too..." Jimmy Page does not reappear in this story.
@twikirobot6897
@twikirobot6897 4 жыл бұрын
.....😆 no reason whatsoever
@MaddestMousse
@MaddestMousse 4 жыл бұрын
Right? Lol I commented the same thing, not sure if he was gonna say something and then quickly change ged his mind or what but it honestly just seems like a name drop trying to score some points. It is actually pretty hilarious watching it again, just how out of place it is, doesn't elaborate whatsoever and in the next sentence is moving on with the story, the jimmy lage thing being completely irrelevant lol.
@MaddestMousse
@MaddestMousse 4 жыл бұрын
*page
@eloyyynas
@eloyyynas 4 жыл бұрын
I think it refers to the fact that Lawrence asked "we did a bass?" in front of Jimmy which might have been lil embarassing
@MaddestMousse
@MaddestMousse 4 жыл бұрын
@@eloyyynas ah yes, good point i suppose. that frickin lawrence!
@AgentXXSmith
@AgentXXSmith 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2004 I was in a studio in Hoboken, NJ with Mike Barbiero and he told the same story. James and Lars said, "Here are the polaroids of the mixing desk we recorded at. Do the same with your faders." + "Pull the bass down till you can't hear it and raise it 1db." And Mike and Steve would argue, "This isn't the same mixing board! It won't sound the same." Didn't matter. He also told me, "we'd put the bass up when they were gone, then they'd fly back in to hear the mixes and make us put everything back they way they told us before. The only song I could sneak any bass onto was 'The Ballad'." Shoutout to the old school copy of THE STAND behind Steve's head there.
@diamondhead5432101
@diamondhead5432101 5 жыл бұрын
Someone out there needs to remix the album drum free! Then put Justice for Jason all over that 😅
@LumosX
@LumosX 5 жыл бұрын
Already done to restore the bass: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJzUhZaCrLqMoJo
@clintonwalsh2264
@clintonwalsh2264 7 жыл бұрын
With out bass there is no metal. Bass makes a big part of metal music. Jason was treated like shit and it was not even his fault or had nothing to do with the accident.
@kakolykia
@kakolykia 6 жыл бұрын
Clinton Walsh but the sound was unique
@charlesbaker7505
@charlesbaker7505 6 жыл бұрын
3Storms jason got respect on tracks like king nothing and most of the load and reload album and yes the black album also had bass, it was one album get over it
@raymondwhatley9954
@raymondwhatley9954 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with you dude. Just listen to Iron Maiden and see how important the bass is.
@samuelloomis1119
@samuelloomis1119 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Baker it was one album of only four good albums that they made. It is a big deal.
@charlesbaker7505
@charlesbaker7505 6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Thompson if you think they only made 4 good albums then you are an elitist Metallica fan who clearly doesn't like there music because it's "mainstream Metallica"
@asyncawaited
@asyncawaited 7 жыл бұрын
In 20 years, we'll get to see a "Loudwire editor explains missing video on 'Metallica Mixer Explains Missing Bass on "And Justice For All" [Exclusive]'" and it'll just be Lars not liking the way the video made his drums sound.
@leoboutilier4219
@leoboutilier4219 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO You didn't just hit the nail on the head; you buried it into the wood!
@JonnySublime
@JonnySublime 6 жыл бұрын
When musicians care more about their big fat heads than the music we all lose. Metallicat 4 life though.
@schaekker7411
@schaekker7411 6 жыл бұрын
Leo Boutilier yep
@faunaflage
@faunaflage 6 жыл бұрын
It will just be a still photo of a mixing board setup, with Lars' voiceover saying "we did have bass....we did have bass..."
@cleberz8072
@cleberz8072 6 жыл бұрын
Has it been 20 years since St Anger yet? I wanna hear the editor explain the missing solos
@buddylhirondelle5377
@buddylhirondelle5377 2 жыл бұрын
Steve Thompson is awesome. The album is awesome . A very influential album and a masterpiece . That mid scoop sound is cool but too bad the bass wasn’t a bit more audible or it would be perfect
@EoinStRandy
@EoinStRandy 7 жыл бұрын
and Hetfield went like "live footage".....
@bongo_baggins
@bongo_baggins 7 жыл бұрын
EoinStRandy "Is he serious?" *Hetfield headbanging in the corner "Okay..."
@curt6525
@curt6525 7 жыл бұрын
Dying
@rick-deckard
@rick-deckard 6 жыл бұрын
Ugh
@josh18230
@josh18230 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Lars: TURN THE BASS DOWN UNTIL YOU CAN BARELY HEAR IT
@Berbs73
@Berbs73 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@chrisosmak3915
@chrisosmak3915 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Hunter lol
@Tomversal
@Tomversal 5 жыл бұрын
Lars: TURN THE BASS DOWN UNTIL ITS BARELY AUDIBLE *Album Releases* Nobody: Lars: Did we add bass in Justice?
@bubblyproduction9809
@bubblyproduction9809 5 жыл бұрын
Also Lars: We added the bass right..?
@CurtisAlfeld
@CurtisAlfeld 5 жыл бұрын
Jason should have punched Lars for saying that.
@PanzerMan332
@PanzerMan332 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever someone says "What's so bad about Lars?" I show them this video.
@shamicentertainment1262
@shamicentertainment1262 6 жыл бұрын
People just pick and choose bad and good videos and then make character assessments based off those. I can go to a bunch of videos and find people saying 'lars is such a good guy' or 'lars is an arrogant douche'.
@Afurthyclays
@Afurthyclays 6 жыл бұрын
At the time of mixing Justice, Lars was an arrogant douche. Your argument is invalid.
@shamicentertainment1262
@shamicentertainment1262 6 жыл бұрын
+Afurthyclays That's probably true, but that was 30 years ago and nowadays lars seems quite different.
@Corsina
@Corsina 6 жыл бұрын
And yet there are so many more reasons that just what's in this video.
@bfrederickvalerio
@bfrederickvalerio 6 жыл бұрын
Panzer Man Same.
@Slimee44
@Slimee44 Жыл бұрын
We need the Steve Thompson mix! RELEASE THE THOMPSPON CUT!!!
@THEzTROLLlz
@THEzTROLLlz 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the one part of the video where he's telling the story with expressions and that entire bit is completely edited over with concert footage. Well done.
@Wheezyweasel
@Wheezyweasel 7 жыл бұрын
Metallica Mixer Explains Missing Bass on 'And Justice for All' (video starts) Lars is an asshole. (video ends)
@stevenkorenek389
@stevenkorenek389 7 жыл бұрын
Wheezyweasel yes. Thats about right.
@Westcoasttrendkill
@Westcoasttrendkill 7 жыл бұрын
Best summary ever!!!!
@davidhines68
@davidhines68 7 жыл бұрын
L'arse.
@MegaAngelpower
@MegaAngelpower 7 жыл бұрын
I love Mtallica, but i must say that Lars is arrogant. "We did have bass on...." come on man!
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 6 жыл бұрын
“I wanted to make “Master” sound like a demo”. That is one tall order.
@emperoralvis6559
@emperoralvis6559 6 жыл бұрын
I believe it could’ve happened if Lars had nothing to do with the mixing of AJFA
@markallen4127
@markallen4127 6 жыл бұрын
I thought master sounded good too.... until I heard the cowboys from hell album.
@borisvian8117
@borisvian8117 6 жыл бұрын
It sounds dated now. Too much reverb, it's got that annoing early 80s metal sound. Drums sound really crappy. Reign in Blood on the other hand dated really well and both came out in 1986.
@Goob2787
@Goob2787 6 жыл бұрын
@@borisvian8117 Slayer also had one of the best metal drummers, and not a pretentious tennis player.
@borisvian8117
@borisvian8117 6 жыл бұрын
@8un3zz sure it can. Some records sound as if they were recorded today although they had been released decades ago. Master of Puppets isn't one of them. Reign in Blood is.
@fredegundestratton4891
@fredegundestratton4891 2 жыл бұрын
As much as there are reasons for mixing down the bass that dont make sense, ive almost wondered if it was a sort of subconscious way to cope with the loss of cliff. He left a massive hole in theirs and our hearts and that album is almost a testament to how big of a hole he left in the bands sound too. Its like a whole album of just James, Kirk, and Lars jammin away without Cliff and its like its all for Cliff. Especially when you think of To Live Is To Die. That being said it doesn’t excuse how they treated Jason then and all the way till he quit.
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger Жыл бұрын
That's probably also why they treated him bad, they just couldn't cope. They were still fairly young at the time and it was not only a personal issue but also a wrench in the works for their band sound they had to cope with.
@MrMrjunala
@MrMrjunala 4 жыл бұрын
"kock knock" -"Who's there?" -Lars Ulrich's most complicated drum beat
@timmynator8036
@timmynator8036 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@quinnrollen
@quinnrollen 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody, then
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 4 жыл бұрын
@@quinnrollen lmao
@itais860
@itais860 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@codyjohnson7841
@codyjohnson7841 3 жыл бұрын
BURN!!
@TheLordGoat
@TheLordGoat 7 жыл бұрын
im sure for 20 years he legally wasnt able to speak on it lol
@bastiancarlos5317
@bastiancarlos5317 7 жыл бұрын
Gore Elohim Im like number 69 I'm out
@hroj
@hroj 7 жыл бұрын
lmfao , in what world do you live in?
@Defensive_Wounds
@Defensive_Wounds 7 жыл бұрын
I.E - until they remastered it by someone else for the 30th anniversary remaster...
@Discrimination_is_not_a_right
@Discrimination_is_not_a_right 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't work for a band with that many issues, regardless of how great their music is. Give me someone safe and boring.
@yittmashups
@yittmashups 6 жыл бұрын
There's nothing grammatically wrong about using the idiom 'speak on', friend.
@thevinyltruffle
@thevinyltruffle 5 жыл бұрын
Lars’ ego ruined what that album couldve been. His ego ruined everything that Hetfield’s didnt.
@jameswade5956
@jameswade5956 5 жыл бұрын
His fucking ego nearly killed the band. I swear to Ares he’s the most overrated drummer that has ever lived. Hey Lars if you ever read this shit....just wanted to tell you to go fuck yourself. You don’t deserve the life you’ve been able to live on your mediocrity.
@snailnslug3
@snailnslug3 5 жыл бұрын
@@jameswade5956 his drive though made him rich and famous and part of Metallica.
@jameswade5956
@jameswade5956 5 жыл бұрын
jake He still sucks as a drummer. I don’t care what this mediocre sorry ass has accomplished, he sucks. Oh he’s a member of the biggest sell out “metal” band of all time. Guess what, he’s always going to suck and only gets worse with time. The point is, how awesome would this album sound with bass? Thanks lars. Yet something else you fucked up.
@aweirdbiscuit2367
@aweirdbiscuit2367 5 жыл бұрын
@@jameswade5956 what are you like fucking 15 lmao?
@IMan_93_
@IMan_93_ 5 жыл бұрын
James Wade He’s not overrated, anyone who knows anything about drumming knows he’s about as average as it gets. He thinks of himself as a legend because of the band he’s involved with, but he’ll never be listed up there with the greats like Peart / Bonham / Moon / Carey / etc.
@soulcrusher0357
@soulcrusher0357 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite album by Metallica, and to think what it would have been with a more prominent bass makes me feel like this dude. MOP is a close 2nd but this one is #1 for me.
7 жыл бұрын
Did Lars edit this video?
@jamesb1221222
@jamesb1221222 4 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine how insane it would be if this mixer recorded what he mixed originally on a cassette and kept it before Lars came in?
@Aidan.17
@Aidan.17 3 жыл бұрын
There's a youtube video of the bass turned up on justice for all sounds mint as
@TheEricJBotelho84
@TheEricJBotelho84 Жыл бұрын
It’s on KZbin, it has Jason’s bass on their
@DaveTaste
@DaveTaste 5 жыл бұрын
I heard Jason explain it, but Lars mixed the interview and it was muted.
@insertcoinracing1582
@insertcoinracing1582 Жыл бұрын
This was the first Metallica record I heard, and at around 10 years old it really kicked me in the ass. The way the drums were so dry and intense it almost made the music sound illicit. The snare at the beginning of Blackened set the tone for something that was unlike anything else at the time. It may not have made for the best mixed album of all time, but it kicked off a lifetime of fascination and love for thrash metal that will never die, and that's why for me it's the quintessential thrash record over Master of Puppets, Rust in Peace or even Beneath The Remains (which is probably 2nd imo).
@BrianM-44041
@BrianM-44041 11 ай бұрын
While I disagree that and justice was Metallica's best, as I'm a ride the lightning and master of puppets fan , and that rust in peace is Megadeths best (peace sells is canon), I wholeheartedly agree with you about beneath the remains. Such an influential and perfect record. Try to imagine that year when among the living, reign in blood, master of puppets, and peace sells came out at the same time. It was glorious for metal. Sepultura was still on morbid visions or schizophrenia at that time. Crazy.
@familymedicine4047
@familymedicine4047 4 жыл бұрын
When a 50 year old Elvis album has more bass...
@big10footballgobuckeyes39
@big10footballgobuckeyes39 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just a hunk a hunk a burnin love ,whooo a hunk a hunk a burnin love ,lol
@codyjohnson7841
@codyjohnson7841 3 жыл бұрын
ZING!!!
@squid-boy4178
@squid-boy4178 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Elvis actually plays bass so I feel like that's not the best comparison
@rpGuitarWorks
@rpGuitarWorks 3 жыл бұрын
Well not really, I mean he sat on the couch doing cocaine and noodled for a psychedelic Beatles visit and he knew a few chords, but wasn’t a gigging bassist such as Waylon (Crickets) or Tom Petty (Mudcrutch, Wilburys) who later became frontmen. What’s funny is that I was in hs when this album came out and I loved it so much that I didn’t notice how weird it was mixed until 30 years later when I delved back as a vinyl hobbyist. Missed opportunity just to placate Lahss, but an amazing album nonetheless!
@ladistar
@ladistar 3 жыл бұрын
@@big10footballgobuckeyes39 bahahahahahahahaha awesome lol
@colinprincipe6293
@colinprincipe6293 7 жыл бұрын
LOL at Lars at Hall of Fame: "We did have bass on that album, didn't we?" What a colossal ass.
@deathintheair8453
@deathintheair8453 6 жыл бұрын
Pussy
@Iprodeltaelite
@Iprodeltaelite 6 жыл бұрын
lars is punk bitch
@deathintheair8453
@deathintheair8453 6 жыл бұрын
ben crawford bitch
@shirazenema3228
@shirazenema3228 6 жыл бұрын
No Ben maybe you should watch again i dont think he,s a fanboy or Lars at all, how did you come up with that. James, Jason and Kirk should have found a new drummer at that point!
@emperoralvis6559
@emperoralvis6559 6 жыл бұрын
ben crawford What’s the difference between Derek and Hitler? Hitler knew when to kill himself.
@winston153
@winston153 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know my Jewish aunt Shirley mixed for Metallica.
@fede018
@fede018 6 жыл бұрын
lmao
@elcabezon5487
@elcabezon5487 5 жыл бұрын
He sure looks feminine,is he a Trans?
@MartKencuda
@MartKencuda 5 жыл бұрын
It's mostly that tight perm hairdo and purple tinted glasses, lmao
@IAm-qf2xb
@IAm-qf2xb 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than an illiterate name dropper.
@rexsexson5349
@rexsexson5349 5 жыл бұрын
Nah rockers get old and get whimpy or old lady like. I.E. Steven Tyler. Could be years of drug use and body has whimped out. Or years of orgies and lack of testosterone. I dunno, i think I thought too much about it.
@marioi.carrillo6264
@marioi.carrillo6264 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the album is called "And Justice For All" is extremely ironic considering that they didn't give justice to Jason's work, nor Cliff for that matter.
@TheJotaroKujo
@TheJotaroKujo 4 жыл бұрын
If you loved "hey let's make my snare sound like a trash can", you don't want to miss the creator's previous masterpiece "hey let's make the bass barely audible".
@silvercloud1641
@silvercloud1641 Жыл бұрын
You don't like trash metal?
@m.kostoglod7949
@m.kostoglod7949 Жыл бұрын
​@@silvercloud1641It's called thrash, not trash
@silvercloud1641
@silvercloud1641 Жыл бұрын
@@m.kostoglod7949 It is if we're still talking about the St Anger snare? 🛢🥁
@nesguillen
@nesguillen Жыл бұрын
​@@m.kostoglod7949 If we're talking about an album in which snare sounds like a trash can, it must be named "trash" metal
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus Жыл бұрын
​@@nesguillenyeah, that's the joke👍
@Apricot_418
@Apricot_418 6 жыл бұрын
"We did have bass in the record, didn't we?" Lars why...
@mxcx968
@mxcx968 6 жыл бұрын
I read this as he said it 🤣
@ryanspencerlauderdale687
@ryanspencerlauderdale687 4 жыл бұрын
For those of you that don’t already know: Keep in mind that Steve Thompson mixed the Appetite for Destruction record. He also mixed for Korn, Whitney Houston, and others. Steve knows his stuff. It was certain people in the band that made the mix sound the way it did when it was released. Edit: In Lars’s defense, I do realize they probably had a story they wanted to tell to their fans, obviously with the album being in memory of Cliff, and Jason getting hazed like crazy as the new bassplayer, the new kid on the block on steroids, etc. It’s just my opinion that it doesn’t necessarily make for the best record. But at least Jason got some respect when the Black Album came out.
@davidnissim589
@davidnissim589 4 жыл бұрын
But of course Lars had to go and ruin it all.
@devoured6by6humans6
@devoured6by6humans6 3 жыл бұрын
Jason got respect on the shit tier Tallica Albums.
@linkmeuplink
@linkmeuplink 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the name sound familiar..
@Pre-Expatriate
@Pre-Expatriate 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of GNR but the appetite mix was really good.
@devoured6by6humans6
@devoured6by6humans6 3 жыл бұрын
@max power Justin Bieber 'Baby' is certified diamond. Whats your point?
@hoonaignachowaneha
@hoonaignachowaneha 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you put footage of Hetfield plating over the part where the mixer is making a facial expression relevant to the story.
@bilams
@bilams 5 жыл бұрын
Lars in 1988: Turn the bass down so you can barely hear it Lars in 2017: Cut away from the mixer explaining why, to a live clip so you can barely understand him
@MisfitsJOE
@MisfitsJOE 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I listen to Metallica I wish the drums were missing.
@TribalSaints
@TribalSaints 6 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSSSS, although his totally mediocre drumming was complementary to the last record.
@seanvine39
@seanvine39 6 жыл бұрын
No shit
@chinatype2bassrocker809
@chinatype2bassrocker809 6 жыл бұрын
They are.
@TribalSaints
@TribalSaints 6 жыл бұрын
@@chinatype2bassrocker809 Genius!!!!
@thomasgjefle9106
@thomasgjefle9106 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i wish the drummer would go missing
@jeffc1753
@jeffc1753 6 жыл бұрын
I think the metal community is unanimous after this confirmation that Lars Ulrich is the official Biggest Douche in the Universe.
@atheistconservative6211
@atheistconservative6211 5 жыл бұрын
Shares that title with Mustaine
@Rucky888
@Rucky888 5 жыл бұрын
Napster
@damondziewiontkowski5623
@damondziewiontkowski5623 5 жыл бұрын
Used to be a big fan, but couldn't give two shits if Ulrich stepped in a bear trap infront of me, and I had a crowbar in my hands. The guy is a stain.
@mblund8711
@mblund8711 5 жыл бұрын
He makes Axl Rose look like a saint in comparison.
@PaxBisonica89
@PaxBisonica89 5 жыл бұрын
You are judging someone on something he did in 88 when he was 26 ... Shut the fuck up
@ryanslauderdale
@ryanslauderdale Жыл бұрын
With all the remixes of the Justice record online these days, I’d be interested to hear Steve’s version, if he’d want to do it just for his own enjoyment. Like a director’s cut of a movie. That seems to be a popular thing now.
@superandresr
@superandresr 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah... whoever edited this damn video is as bad of an editor as Lars is of a mixing engineer
@thomashenry3014
@thomashenry3014 6 жыл бұрын
Andrés Rosas whats wrong with the editing? seems pretty standard.
@superandresr
@superandresr 6 жыл бұрын
@@thomashenry3014 you can't see his face when he's talking whenever he says "and Hetfield went like this"
@dennisjr77
@dennisjr77 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Dehawnsamp
@Dehawnsamp 6 жыл бұрын
'Loudwire Mixer Explains Terrible Cuts In Metallica Video' - Lars Ulrich sabotaged the whole thing again.
@83yomomma
@83yomomma 6 жыл бұрын
Andrés Rosas seriously hahaaha
@SuperstarPecanbar
@SuperstarPecanbar 7 жыл бұрын
Lars?! Is that you in the video editing room??
@jopmota
@jopmota 6 жыл бұрын
awesome hahahahahahahaha
@michaelboyle5805
@michaelboyle5805 4 жыл бұрын
Lars was ahead of time. The same way he plays drums
@Afurthyclays
@Afurthyclays 3 жыл бұрын
I get it. 🤣🤪
@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202
@drivingintothedesertuntilt3202 2 жыл бұрын
savage
@whitsixkiller
@whitsixkiller Жыл бұрын
As an original fan from the beginning it would be nice if they released a remastered version of Justice with adequate bass line. I saw them live twice on Justice and you could hear the bass line, it was better that the studio recordings. Probably never happen.
@keeleye7225
@keeleye7225 Жыл бұрын
What you want is a remix, not a remaster. A remaster would simply be adding processing to the original shitty mix. This needs a remix, and then of course that new mix would be mastered by a mastering studio.
@rafzero
@rafzero 7 жыл бұрын
Horrible editing WTF!! And Hetfield went like this ( goes to live concert footage)
@adrianmeyer2157
@adrianmeyer2157 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, that moment we should have been able to see the guy for fuck sakes.
@ConnorFogartyVO
@ConnorFogartyVO 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hatfield started air guitaring st that moment /s
@madalicetribute
@madalicetribute 7 жыл бұрын
Dang... I would love to have heard this guy's mix.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 6 жыл бұрын
Mad Alice: A Tribute to Alice in Chains & Mad Season yeah sounds like it would’ve been great
@kgunitkeese17
@kgunitkeese17 5 жыл бұрын
When Lars said "We did have bass in the record, didn't we?" I'm disappointed that he didn't get punched in the face for that stupid question. I would've if I was the mixer.
@crotchy7667
@crotchy7667 4 жыл бұрын
He counted to 10 to stop himself.
@residentraccoon2910
@residentraccoon2910 4 жыл бұрын
Cocaine and booze...
@drseuss8589
@drseuss8589 3 жыл бұрын
About time they restored this album what a beautiful remaster, I don't understand why Newstead was outed this is why you need audio engineers whose fine instrument is audio hearing range and perception
@luger4799
@luger4799 10 ай бұрын
It's the original copy not a remix
@kadourimdou43
@kadourimdou43 7 жыл бұрын
Why choose to have virtually no bass. Petty power play over making the record sound as good as possible.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 7 жыл бұрын
Breath and a Scream Screwing up your own record
@wadehensley5005
@wadehensley5005 7 жыл бұрын
Because it will allow the fans to turn the music up louder before the woofers clip
@jordanzlotolow8254
@jordanzlotolow8254 7 жыл бұрын
Breath and a Scream same with One
@O5fan
@O5fan 7 жыл бұрын
The guy said what happened, he just didn't go into their motivation for dropping the bass level.
@genevai2893
@genevai2893 7 жыл бұрын
yup yup yup
@weneedtermlimits
@weneedtermlimits 6 жыл бұрын
Back in the early nineties my 16 yr old nephew was dying of a brain tumor and I was working on a tour where Metallica opened for one show. I asked the band to sign an autograph for him. (he played drums) Lars was the only one who said no, James not only signed an autograph but grabbed my cellphone and called him. Was the thrill of his short life and speaks to the difference between those guys.
@ExperienceEric
@ExperienceEric 6 жыл бұрын
you had a cell phone in the early 90's?
@thegibsonserver
@thegibsonserver 6 жыл бұрын
early 90's cellphones = bricks.
@JimmyKillem69
@JimmyKillem69 6 жыл бұрын
tiny cellphones became a thing in the late 90s early 2000s, so yeah, early 90s we had bricks, then after all that they started turning phones into computers slowly but surely
@user-ll8dq7rz1x
@user-ll8dq7rz1x 6 жыл бұрын
Lars a cock
@mrbpis
@mrbpis 6 жыл бұрын
he's full of it
@TheLightSideReactions
@TheLightSideReactions 5 жыл бұрын
Bad editing. You really cut away to B-reel while he's describing things with facial expressions?
@GMMReviews
@GMMReviews Жыл бұрын
"James went like this -" Loudwire: *Edits video so you can't see the gesture he was making* Who edited this damn video, Lars?
@EarthenDemon126
@EarthenDemon126 4 ай бұрын
God knows what James went like
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