Low Saxon ( Low German) Vs High German

[@MyrddnWllt]

As an Englishman that Low Saxon conversation was a comfortable listen. I won’t say I knew what they were saying but it felt very familiar and I knew how the conversation was flowing. I reckon If I stayed there for a year I’d learn comfortably.

[@jesseward568]

It is one to learn a foreign language living there. Learning a foreign language is a completely different skill. But you need to learn a foreign language on order to have an 'in' into the conversation.

[@urmoneylol]

Although many people think that “German” is a language, it isn’t. German is really a catch-all term for all the West Germanic dialects spoken in the German cultural area. These dialects are descended from 3 separate ancient languages. North-Sea Germanic, which is ancestral to the Low German dialects, Weser-Rhine Germanic, which is ancestral to the West-Central German dialects, and Elbe Germanic, which is ancestral to the East-Central and Upper German dialects. Standard German, which is spoken by the majority of Germans and the one typically learned, is not a natural language, but a standardized one based on East-Central dialects.

[@firstnamelastname9179]

Yeah, all these 'national languages' are developed due to standardized education and media. Happened in France, too. Noam Chomsky says that 200 years ago it was possible to go to the next town over in France and be out of your depth language-wise. Now even the Canadians speak the standardized French.

[@rippspeck]

But to be fair, in some regions, Standard German has actually become a natural language. Up North, most people have completely switched to Standard German because Low German is way less mutually intelligible with the rest of Germany.

[@theChaosKe]

East central german has no ancestral links and should be seen as a seperate group. These dialects were koine dialects (mixed of various germanic dialects with slavs) that emerged in the middleages around the 12th century. What used to be elbe germanic was old thuringian but that one went extinct by getting overformed by franconian in the 5th century (so before the high german consonat shift). In its earlier stages this new "thuringian" was called sorbenfrankish. If you wanted to classify them in any of the 3 categories it would most closely resemble weser-rhine germanic due to its frankish routes (as unsurprisingly east central german is closest in its features to west central german and upper franconian)

[@Student-cs2ws]

Agreed! In our national anthem we do sing, “am I of German blood.” Of course we are not of German descent. No we are from German descent. Is that the same? No! There is a ‘German’ that means German and a word ‘German’ that means ‘Germanic’. ‘Dutch’ in the end is the same as ‘Deutsch’. Only spelled differently.

[@Smitty19966]

I feel Low German has more of a connection to English than High.

[@treeman12815]

low german seems more familiar with english

[@benztheprotogen3502]

As an english speaker who studied german high german is way easier to understand.

[@dux_bellorum]

Yup! Low German sounded more Danish to me

[@Albion89]

Which is official? Low or high German ?

[@dux_bellorum]

@Albion89 they're both official, but I believe (at least from what I have learned) high german is the more standard version that you'll encounter....

[@Albion89]

@@dux_bellorum Low German is similar to Dutch and High is free to learn on Duolingo

[@legacywolf443]

well of course because that's what they teach in schools usually

[@zaggy3110]

In my part of East Frisia, people "proten" Low German, no one "snacks" You snack in the "snack bar" (chip shop), or at the french fries stand

[@floatingfinish2211]

Du bist ja auch Friese und kein Sachse ;)

[@Monkeyamingus777]

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[@HanneFre]

Sounds like a mix between German, Dutch and Swedish/Norwegian!

[@Meme-op8fu]

That’s why people from Northern Germany (Hamburg, Berlin, Bremen) can speak better english than people from Southern Germany. The stereotypical exaggerated Arnold Schwarzenegger type accent is Bavarian. I met someone who was from Hamburg and they could speak in a perfect British accent.

[@j.boekema2739]

I speak Dutch Low-Saxon, and its so simular to German Low-Saxon.

[@receivedpronunciation6696]

Niederdeutsch - Hochdeutsch ik - ich maken - machen slapen - schlafen dorp - Dorf drinken - trinken vader - Vater dat - das appel - Apfel zitten - sitzen

[@terrell112]

Lower Saxony the home of my 11th great- grandfather Tobias Von Cramer

[@TheEuronaut]

That was not "High German" but "Austrian German" :D

[@rippspeck]

Using some Austrian dialect for "High German" was pretty funny. Not inaccurate at all, but also not what most German-speaking people would expect, I believe.

[@jonasrmb01]

It wasn't dialect tho, just southern accent

[@jonasrmb01]

Also the only officially recognized seperate dialect in Austria is Wienerisch, all dialects not from Vienna are officially variations of Bavarian

[@HonestMan112]

Im assuming its similar to southern and northern UK accents

[@Taukingur]

it’s much more different than in the UK. english itself evolved out of what is now low german so it should sound more familiar

[@receivedpronunciation6696]

*Niederdeutsch - Hochdeutsch* ik - ich maken - machen slapen - schlafen dorp - Dorf drinken - trinken vader - Vater dat - das appel - Apfel zitten - sitzen

[@jonasrmb01]

No, they are seperate languages

[@ReikoMondschatten]

That's not High German, that's a thick Bavarian accent. 😬

[@danieldelaney1377]

Which is a high german dialect

[@nathaliesuprematie]

I prefer Low German

[@nutzitchi]

hitla

[@Juneau48]

Spelt "I'm a loser" wrong

[@nutzitchi]

nuh uh

[@Bbhamadama888]

If your trying to be funny, then your not. Germany doesn’t mean Hitler, kid.

[@EnglishOrthodox]

Bro learned to spell in kfc