Lower Dose of Testosterone Replacement Therapy TRT because of High Testosterone Levels?

Testosterone levels too high? What to do if your doctor tells you to lower dose of Testosterone Replacement Therapy TRT because of high testosterone levels, even when You feel Optimized?
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[@nybadboy5150]

I had a pfo closure and now on plavix for 3 months then on baby asprin after that any way i can get back on test?

[@ObeytheRussianBlue]

Absolutely correct!!! Good work, great channel! Thank you! Dr Rocket 🚀

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

You are very welcome

[@anthonyshaw8698]

Fantastic information!!! Good stuff. I'm on trt also. Needed this. Thx

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

+Anthony Shaw thanks for commenting 👍🏻

[@BAAAKSEEEN]

Danny looking like the real Italian stallion

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

Ha!

[@DanielBrown-nj3th]

Thank you for your information. 🙌🏼

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Glad it was helpful!

[@daviddavid1057]

Great video as always! thank you guys! 👍

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Thanks for watching!

[@williamnewton5402]

vids have been very helpful - keep it up

[@BlueSTI]

Danny looking more jacked💪. you explained it perfectly Danny the man needs to feel good don't go by ranges

[@lpdc5911]

Another great Video👍🏻

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@paraskevasmavragannis2923]

thank you very much.....you are best

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Thanks and welcome

[@dt2504]

Sometimes you’re looking to “feel” something so you end up taking a high amount. After some time you might find that you’re too revved up and feel better on a lower dose. It’s all relative and different for everyone.

[@csimp6542]

Hey Danny, I don”t have any social media, love the channel and your info. I believe in one video you said you were in Canada which is where I live. I”ve been on trt for 2.5 yrs now, was just wondering if it was possible to ask your advice on a couple issues and what the best platform is. Thanks

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

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[@philipcollins218]

I am 60. Started TRT 1/5/20. Discovering my T levels very low. My Doctor increased my dose very quickly- from 140 mg per week to 300mg per week. Symptoms have been slow to improve - but just beginning to feel the benefits. A lot more energy - and even a return to a sex life I had forgot existed. Best advice is just stick with it - and forget all the scary stuff , philip Collins. Chelsea London UK.

[@philipcollins218]

Valerie K HI. It took about 4 weeks on 300 mg to start feeling the benefit. Some fatigue before kicking in - nothing extreme. Sleeping better now. Mood lifted for sure - a great deal more energy. Hope this helps. Philip Collins London

[@philipcollins218]

Valerie K yes. That’s about right for uk.

[@WJHandyDad]

that's one of my biggest frustrations with American medicine - everything comes down to lab tests and having results in a certain range without any consideration of the individual patient

[@pedroisaac2850]

Wholeheartedly agree with Danny, most docs are clueless with trt, not only did I fight for treatment they only stuck with the range and I felt crap, utter crap always so I had no choice but to go private and finally a doc who treated the person not the god damn numbers. After a year I feel human again, normal as I should. health vastly improved I’ve lost 60lbs of fat, gained 15lbs of muscle probably some water weight, no brain fog, energy back to when I was in my 20s, healthy sex life, enjoy life. Once I got a good doc it took 3 months on 140mg split into daily shots, my original doc had me on 80mg a week with AI which was crazy, I know way more now and will never have AI again it’s not needed if your just replacing testosterone.

[@darrencrainey5391]

What does your t levels sit at now?would be great to know if I need to up mine to feel better

[@pedroisaac2850]

@@darrencrainey5391 953 nanograms per decilitre

[@maccddyasydsydysyds]

it sickens me that they do not even want you to test your levels

[@ajpope2010]

Excellent. I share your guys channel to everyone on social media including women. Woman have just as much to loose as men when they significant other feels like dog shit. Thank You SOSOOOOOO much! If it were not for this channel i would still be a wreck....an uneducated wreck to boot. Much love from Cali!

[@BigDaddyJ70]

I’m going though this now. My Doc panicked and tried to stop me cold...I had to argue for him to prescribe 1/4 of the dosage and man do I feel like shit...

[@davidmartin2957]

My guy reduced my TRT from once per week to once per fortnight. His argument was the lab results were high >55 and he didn’t know the actual results. I get blood drawn at .54 so where do I go. This months result was .53 and this should result in a reduction over time. Before covid I was on .49. Felt great.

[@tommylee5113]

finally a sane guy :)

[@harryjohnson370]

Doctors don't make money when they have healthy patients that feel good..

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Correct!

[@papibuilder]

Danny Have deffinetly improvment. You can tell by his appearance

[@barrie888]

tks , common sense agreed

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

barrie888 , Thank *you* for watching and *commenting* !!👍

[@altered_beast]

What if your at the top of the range and still feel ALL of those symptoms???? Donated double red and only feel minimal improvement

[@TheScottlehn90]

Hello! I’m 31 and my total test was at around 500 ngl but my shbg was 63 with a free test at 42 ngl. And weakly bound L at 83 . Had all symptoms above. Started 80 mgs week split into two doses. I honestly started to feel pretty good increased both free and weakly bound into healthy ranges. But was airing on the side of getting to “optimized range” we increased to 100mgs but also found out I contracted hepatitis c from back when I was using- I am now sort of doing my own research to see if the hepatitis and my liver scarring impacts my shbg. I’m now cured of the hepatitis c but 35 hours after my last shot my total shot up to 2000 and they want to decrease. I convinced her to do a trough test and that I break it back into two so the peaks aren’t so high. Any advice anybody? Thank you!

[@SkydivingSquid]

My testosterone was under 200. 6 months later I am at 1,700 (I got scared, but doc says don't look at numbers, look at symptoms/feeling). My back-acne is HORRIBLE though. Tried a month of doxy, been on benzyl peroxide soap and salicylic acid pads for months. Nothing. Not sure when this is supposed to change, if ever. That's my only downside.

[@rjthomasindyusa]

Did you lower your dose or pin more frequently?

[@johncalla2151]

The problem with focusing on "symptom resolution" is that the "symptoms of low testosterone" are usually so vague that they can be explained by a whole host of things, not just hormonal but also non-hormonal. Like the guy below who has high test, 2% free test and is complaining that he can't get TRT. He's clearly not deficient in testosterone; the problem is not there but somewhere else.

[@ronproietti6050]

I have a question..I"m now on 100mg of cypionate a week, and have noticed that my scalp, arm pits ( rash ) and lympth nods in the back of my neck are swollen ? Can this be a cause of trt ???

[@wooster1414]

Doubt it

[@hjleon_12]

Imagine going to college for 8+ years, spending countless nights awake studying, thousands of hours writing research papers, and having a debt Bill Gates couldn’t pay off just to have Danny Bosa tell you what to do

[@jonwelch564]

Doctors learn the text books, but applying than info can be difficult if they can't expand on it.

[@gibsonnirmit271]

My free testosterone level is 81.12pg/ml...normal range is 1.00-28.28pg/ml...is that okay to be high?

[@codacious141]

Same here, started 100mg per week. Felt great. After 3 months they did bloods and say estradiol and test is too high. Went from 268 test to 986 trough. They lowered to 80mg and wanted to add anastrozole .5mg twice a week. Now energy has gone down. Have not started AI cause I don’t want to feel worse. But if I don’t drop estradiol I’m sure the doc will lower test more. The problem is in Canada this is the only place that I know of offering TRT. Unless someone else has recommendations. I’m at the numbers and nurse practitioners mercy.

[@jazi4182]

Great channel!! I’ve been on 250mg of testosterone enanthate once a week for the last 2 months now and I still don’t feel the great effects. Ive gotten stronger at the gym but my mood hasn’t gotten better, nor my erections, and etc. Should I increase the dose a bit or what?

[@StephanoHamez]

I’m on the same amount and split the 250 mg, I take two injections per week on Sun and Weds. I feel great 👍

[@ajpope2010]

I would wait for a couple more months. I would also try to hone in on sleep, diet, reduce stress ect ect. That way you can really narrow it down to being ONLY the testosterone dose. Took me 6 months and lots of education and will power to get me feeling great. I almost upped my dose but decided to really get the explained above right first...like a really honest effort. And WALLA...its worked. Sleep and diet...kinda pisses me off though cuz some things out of my control like 12hr rotating shift work at my job really fuck with my sleep but i bend over backwards to do the best i can. Diet was a sinch but still takes lots of effort. My boners now are fucking huge LOL. Good luck

[@ivank4914]

You should inject enanthate atleast twice a week! Enanthate has half life of 4.5 days

[@TheRabbit91476]

I never noticed the full effects of a dose change untill just before three weeks. Trt isn’t a cure all. Mood can be affected by sleep and nutrition. Trt. Also doesn’t fix a shitty life. Look to improve your situation. I would not increase with out labs.

[@DanielBrown-nj3th]

1150 is my best feeling zone. Higher I feel worse. Lower I feel worse.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

@DanielBrown-nj3th Thank you for sharing!

[@jessegotti3451]

.7 cypionate On day 2 my level is 1550. Day 6 is 700........ I feel 1500 is to high....and get acne on my chest... I'd like to be around 1000. Thoughts?

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[@riggs9688]

I’ve bumped my trt up to 300mgs weekly and puts me around 1200ng/DL. I’ve always agreed with Danny, what’s a number really? Are we treating numbers or symptoms?

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

100%

[@cpmiller21]

300 puts you at 1200? Wow that’s crazy. 200mg has me over 1500 and 40+ free T. About 140 puts me at 1200. Crazy how different doses affect people differently

[@riggs9688]

cpmiller21 how many days after your shot do you get labs? I go 7 days

[@riggs9688]

fsufan you’re getting labs at peak levels. You should see where they’re at at trough levels which is 6 or 7 days. I usually do 2 injections weekly for more stable levels which can affect my trough levels.

[@riggs9688]

I’ve also been doing trt for 15 years and started at 150mgs. Maybe my body gets used to it so I’ve bumped it up over the years.

[@jakerusty123]

your missing a crucial value that most doctors also miss. “Free Testosterone”. Please stop talking about total testosterone. it’s irrelevant. you can have a full tank of Total Testosterone but if your fuel filter is clogged (high shbg) you can still feel like shit. please emphasize the importance of Free Testosterone.

[@adrianovasconcelos9268]

I am unable to activate a subtitle function in this vide

[@couga8888]

That's exactly my case I'm 48, my total test is 820 ng/dl my free is 0.548 nmol/L and I have all the symptoms of low T, but even at Balance my hormone they don't want to treat me.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Why?

[@couga8888]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization I don't know, the person I had on the phone just said I do not qualify for TRT with those LVL and I could still make a third blood test later.That's crazy I'm almost above what they say is the normal range, natty and at 48 YO.

[@couga8888]

@3 name changes allowed every 90 days. According to the lab range my free test is not low at all since their normal range is between 0.2 and 0.62 nmol/L and I'm at 0.548 nmol/L. Yes I had a complete panel, SHBG is a bit high otherwise my free T would be even higher and probably above the the freaking normal range, they use SHBG to calculate free T right ? I will try Boron and D3 see what it can do for me.

[@darrencrainey5391]

​@@couga8888high mate did you eventually get on trt with bmh?what symptoms you suffering?

[@harryjohnson370]

AAAAAAAMEN! the damn insurance companies set the stupid testing range numbers.

[@riggs9688]

Danny you know more than most doctors I've spoken with. Have you considered opening your own TRT clinic?

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

I have a successful business that has nothing to do with TRT that I focus on as much as possible. Perhaps one day I'd consider doing that, with a knowledgeable doc at my side, but there are so many regulations and rules etc. If I can't do it my way I don't want to do it at all.

[@newyorkforever5779]

@@TheDannyBossaPodcast you get alot of negative comments, not really sure why. Ive watched a bunch of these videos since starting on TRT, and as a guy who had "normal numbers" i completely agree with you on the fact they need to stop going by the labs. cheers man.

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

@ryan rogers Ha!!

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

@@dralexbrothers are you in our Facebook group?

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[@docere1453]

Insurance companies would never manipulate ranges to avoid paying. Pharma would never fund studies that makes doctors push meds. If they did healthcare may cost 4 Trillion dollars a year with record profits and huge bonuses for management.

[@cyclist5000]

Sadly, this is my exact situation :-(

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Sad to hear that! Good luck finding a better doc!

[@sungbeats]

Many people on this channel claim levels need to be at 1200-1800 to feel better. But I don’t understand why their bodies all of a sudden require so much more amount than most normal people (non TRT)? A normal person feels healthy and just fine at 600-1000. Something is not adding up? I thought testosterone replacement is simply replacing your body’s endogenous T with bio identical hormones? So what’s causing this disparity?

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

Androgen resistance. It's becoming more and more common due to environmental toxins polluting the body.

[@sungbeats]

@@TheDannyBossaPodcast Thanks for the response Danny. Yes that makes sense but there are tons of TRT doctors that get results by keeping patients at a range of 800-1000. As far as I know, that was the sweet spot for ages. I don't get why all of a sudden in the past 2 years, this channel and some others are promoting 1200-1800. What explains that disparity? Is it just treatment differences?

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

@@sungbeats any doctor who claims there is a sweet spot for all men has zero understanding of this stuff. One man might feel optimized at 800 and another needs 1800. They key is to use the minimum amount required to resolve synktokst, whatever that amount is. We're not just replacing. We're not trying to match the body's diurnal rhythm. We're ensuring symptom resolution. Androgen resistance, which is becoming more and more common, sometimes forced us to use a lot more than another man would require. We will all have different needs. Just like one man needs one Advil to get rid of his headache and another needs three.

[@billrunham9610]

Prior to TRT my T was in the toilet @ 300 circa, for godknows how long before I discovered all this. Got on TRT levels elevated to 1050, on only 100mg cip per week (split over 3 subQ shots per week). Complete game changer, felt better than ever, but still having good days / bad days and not quite right, highly elevated E2. We agreed let’s try lowering the dose to 90mg a week (split across 7 shots subQ per week instead of 3). In the first week already feel outstanding, no bad days. Looking forward to my next bloods as I think my T will be lower (guessing 800.. let’s see) and hopefully E2 much lower. Originally they wanted to keep me at 100mg and give me an AI but I’m trying to avoid it. Anyway moral of the story is 90mg per week may put me at 800, but the next guy may need 200mg per week to get to 800, every single person is different. There is no optimal dose. If you put me on 200mg a week like so many clinics in the USA do, with 1 weekly injections, I can imagine my levels will be in the 2000 range, totally insane and not sustainable for me personally, certainly not without an AI. However for someone else that may be exactly what they need to feel better. There is no one size glove that fits all, as they say.

[@biglou80]

@@billrunham9610 where is all of this AI and estrogen talk coming from?? Why are you "hoping" your e2 will be lower?? Do you not understand that up to 80-90% of all the perceived benefits of TRT come from having high test AND estrogen! Guys freak out when they are on a dose and feel "off" for a few days or feel tired... it's your body getting used to the dose. Most guys are WAY underdosed. Top bodybuilders are all on 1cc plus a week and then some... a lot of them don't block estrogen anymore either. Just give it time and stop fucking with your dose soo much!

[@juiced71]

Because the insurance companies are tying there’re hands ... when I started this the testosterone low was 350 now it’s like 275 If I don’t take testosterone by the end of the month mine is like 200... I think it’s really odd that range is for all ages ! I’m 50 and when my testosterone was 300 my doctor says your in range lol gee thanks ! How can someone have 1200 total and 45 free ? When I was on the pellets mine was 490 and my free was 94 I don’t understand that? I been on .25 twice a week shots now For almost a month .. Still feel sluggish... but desire is coming back ... seem to getting erections while I’m sleeping etc so something is helping for sure ..

[@malekmalek9064]

Good one.and if your doctor wants to lower you're dose because of high hematocrit,try drink 2l of water before you're blood draw😉

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

correct!

[@lpdc5911]

How long before blood draw?

[@malekmalek9064]

@@lpdc5911 1 to 2 hours

[@lpdc5911]

@@malekmalek9064 cool, so finish the 2 litres at say 12pm then get blood drawn about 1pm - 2pm

[@Last-Lap-Lando4]

100% even if you were not on anything and u get a hematocrit test while ur dehydrated, you'll end up high %

[@tc5691]

Anyone have A breakout of acne on the face or forehead?

[@gabrielusg1]

Ugh, my freakin’ doctor is lowering my dose. I just asked her to get me off all psych meds because that’s how much my life has improved on TRT, but she has an issue getting me off the pills. She said “we can worry about coming off psych meds later.” I’m feeling great at 200mg. I don’t see the need to have to change that. Now I’m worried about going to back to having issues like when I was on 150mg. She wants to lower it because my levels are “too high” give me a break.

[@aleksandargalabov9923]

What about your bloodwork on 200mg test?

[@openedmind5619]

Please find a different doctor. She can’t make money off you if all you symptoms /problems go away. Good luck on your journey.

[@wooster1414]

Do you inject yourself and go in for blood work?

[@stevenpetrilli1532]

Ok what if your total t is 1500 and you feel great but your hemoglobin is 20 and above?

[@darkgod5555]

@@dralexbrothers "But the issue is with TRT it also up regulates your coagulation factors" This is now showing to be not true and, again, is even ameliorated in people on TRT with previously low testosterone: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S004938481930341X We don't know why some men who are on TRT have deadly clots at a young age but we can't jump to any conclusions. It's sad that the FDA has and this is probably what scares doctors away from prescribing TRT: www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fda-warns-blood-clot-risk-testosterone-products-201406247240

[@darkgod5555]

@@dralexbrothers And those very few people who experience blood clots are applicable to a normal population? I have not seen women on TRT with upregulated coag factors so if you could link those papers or studies that would be appreciated. On the other hand, women on other forms of designer drugs has no relevant bearing on TRT which is bio-identical to our body's own testosterone. You should know this as you seem knowledgeable enough. But, again, if you could link me papers or studies showing TRT causes blood clots I would be very interesting in perusing them.

[@darkgod5555]

@@dralexbrothers Thanks a lot for those links! That first study, in particular, will be a great read. The second, however, is problematic in due part to what I was saying before: TRT != HRT. We should not correlate Testosterone Therapy, which is the bioidentical hormone we produce, with Hormone Therapy, which includes designer drugs which mimic our body's hormones. I also want to be clear that I am not blind to the potential negative effects of TRT, which in my opinion is more to do with the method of administration as opposed to the ideal of the therapy itself-which is simply to add testosterone exogenously. After nearly 100 years, we're finally figuring out it may be beneficial to administer testosterone through injection into adipose tissue as opposed to muscle. Wow, 100 years. Why did it take that long for us to figure this out?

[@AnonymousQwerty]

How do I know what dose to start at? My doc is starting me at 200mg with 500ng/dl total t but with a lot of hypogonadal symptoms. I feel like 200mg might be too high to start.

[@Last-Lap-Lando4]

Thats a very normal starting dose for trt. I was at 450, got put on 200mg/week...i feel great, im above range by a few hundred. Its a good starting dose, cause they can start to drop it slowly from there if you guys feel it necessary...say @200mg, u start to have anxiety, then u may speak with u Dr and start to drop 20-40mg.

[@AnonymousQwerty]

m m The problem is that one of the main things I’ve using trt to treat is my anxiety and depression. So I’m scared I’ll do too much and make my anxiety worse

[@Last-Lap-Lando4]

@@AnonymousQwerty gotcha man. I had daily anxiety, by week 10 of 200mg/week my anxiety was gone, motivation up as well. Id say besides muscle gain and strength, the biggest thing I've noticed is my anxiety is gone. My guess is 200mg is a reference point for trt, because MOST men won't be over that, so incrementally going down from there is probably the right move. If you start at 150, it might be too much or too little you know? All I can say is you'll more likely know by week 8-12 if its too much or not...worth the risk in my opinion. I wish you nothing but the best man, I know how hard life can be with anxiety.

[@Last-Lap-Lando4]

@Dragaroob standard dose for what? I've never heard of this, weight would have nothing to do with replacement therapy. That would mean a 190 lb man "standard dose" would be taking only 86 mg/week...that would more than likely do more harm than good.

[@Last-Lap-Lando4]

@Dragaroob every guy reacts to testosterone differently by dose, but its not determined by weigh. By tur logic, a 120 lb guy would take 54mg/week of test. That would 100% not do anything beneficial and would still shut down natural production, so he'd be taking exogenous testosterone, not increasing his total T or his free T and shutting down his HPTA. Plus ur saying an obese guy is going to take more than a fit guy...the more testosterone you take, the more likely you'll have aromatization as well as the more adipose tissue you have the more likely you'll have higher conversion to estradiol...so it makes no sense to give someone more testosterone just because they weigh more.

[@gamex9288]

I have questions ive been 9’weeks trt sustanon 350mg 2x a week = 700mg .. i gain muscle i lose fat i get lean my libido good no problem on erection no problem on sleep.. no gyno ONLY PROBLEM IS I GOT A LITTLE ACNE ON MY BACK what i need to do? Do i need antibiotics ??to get rid off it.. or just low the doses.? And the acne go away?

[@matthewpoon5402]

your not on a TRT dose at all lmao, but take a megadose of Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic Acid) everyday (2 capsules or more per meal) you will see your skin barrier repair itself along with no more acne. Dermatologists dont tell ppl this because they want to prescribe Antibiotics, Accutane, and other harmful/drys out your organs

[@SkydivingSquid]

I am not familiar with sustanon. I am on cypionate, but 200mg a week is ridiculously high (for cyp). I lowered to 160mg and my levels are still going up. A lot of guys start on 50mg a week. My doc likes to Rx 200mg because well, he's a bodybuilder so there is some bias. I didnt know that at first. Everyone is different, as this guy said, but it's been 6 months and my levels are skyrocketing, even when I cut back. At 700mg a week (even 200mg a week), youd body is going to break out. I got HORRIBLE break outs at 4 months and it got worse to 6 months. If you start low and work your way up, this apparently wont happen as bad. Just be careful.

[@noyolabassist]

700mg a week is not TRT. That’s a blast cycle.

[@betterplacetobe7896]

I don’t care about paperwork and number range and all that crap. If I feel good even at 300mg week I will take 300mg that’s it, fuck the range go by symptoms

[@shaolin0071]

I take 100mg of testosterone every 7 days. My free testosterone is 1200 .. range is 100 to 650 in Canada. I have high estrogen also. I don't feel that great as the number my suggests??? What's happening? Also my Prolactin is very high?? HELP please

[@jeprojectmanager]

Every 7 days is too infrequent. I take my dose daily. A high dose all at once will spike estrogen.

[@thesig301]

Daily is tedious and you’ll likely get sick of doing it tho. Lots of people suggest 2x or 3x weekly if you find daily too annoying.

[@simonobst4973]

Crashing shbg by infequent protocol. Secondly you are do your labs in through. That means on the day you are injecting your free t will shoot up to the sky. If you want to hear a really expert go looking for Dr.Steven Roberts on YT. There are patients he is treating with 7mg T Cyp/day to 25mg/day. We all want to be the man of Our dreams. But the nature wont this. It seems that this is very hard for some people to admit it, you dont need that much test you want like to have. This weird guy danny bossa, is talking shit..to much of them.

[@SkydivingSquid]

I was taking 100mg every 3 days. I just lowered it to 80mg every 3 days. My levels are still going up. Sitting at 1,700 right now and rising. Also, I think you meant to say "total" testosterone. Free is double digits.

[@thesig301]

@@SkydivingSquid they turning you into the hulk my dude

[@brandonyoung4910]

Luckily I get symptom resolution and maintain 13% body fat at 240lbs in 600-700 total T

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

@brandonyoung4910 Thank you for sharing!

[@TheJLAMAR23]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

TheJLAMAR23 , Thank *you* for watching and *commenting* !!👍

[@robsolo4024]

I told her test is 1171 my free test is 340 to my Endo says I have to lower the dose the thing is I still feel like shit I am tired all the time and have 0 Sex Dr. with that testosterone number I should have a high sex drive something else is off please help

[@kingragnar423]

Update?

[@robsolo4024]

@@kingragnar423 I took two weeks off of taking nothing now I am only doing 100 mg per week gonna try a lower dose

[@kingragnar423]

@@robsolo4024 whats your bloodwork look like with 100mg a week? For total and free T? And how you feel on 100mg? What was the 1171 free test dosage?

[@robsolo4024]

@@kingragnar423 I just started it this week so I will probably know better in six weeks when I do bloodwork again

[@kingragnar423]

@@robsolo4024 awesome man. Hopefully you feel better. Just as the video stated though, it’s possible you have to go higher. But always listen to your doctor and best of luck figuring it out!!!

[@mehmetakif5842]

125 mg e7d would be sufficient, but my hematocrit went to 55. Well my doctor said I should try 125 mg e10d now, maybe this is a too little amount.

[@1922johnboy]

Algorithms!!

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

*Thanks* !

[@PauloTravels]

So, I was taking 200mg once a week for 2 years. I felt great let's say 75% of this whole time. Then in the end of this 2 years I felt lot of anxiety, had panic attacks, face acne etc.. So, I think that maybe the problem wasn't the 200mg alone, it was the once a week injection. I told my doctor about my problems and he put me on AI. I took it for 2 weeks and I felt worse than before going on TRT. So I decided to ditch the AI and split the 200mg into 2x 100mg weekly. I haven't told him yet because I don't want to argue with him that AI destroyed me and instead of changing my protocol, he gave me poison. Because of this damn AI, I have no libido for weeks now.. Waiting for the 100mg 2x a week to kick in hoping I will feel great again. My Total T is 38 ng/l and estradiol 42pg/l.

[@thesig301]

Update?

[@wooster1414]

My doc sent in my order, Pharmacy delivered I opened it up and it was Testosterone mixed with AI lol. 3rd week my estrogen crashed and I haven't touched it since. It's garbage and made my penis disconnect from my body. Had no feeling what's so ever, was very weird. I had aches and pains in my joints etc. Took many phone calls and visits to have the clinic order me testosterone without it. Its better now but still waiting for my libido to feel like the first 2 weeks. Very odd XP that they push AI without labs or symptoms. I don't agree

[@bozley149]

This is how Dr Stevens in the UK works. He goes off your bloods not how you feel... Glorified GP.

[@rjthomasindyusa]

300mg.... a week? I'd be chewing on the carpet....

[@wooster1414]

That's 1.5 MLs lol

[@gothops2632]

Do you think that perhaps guys on TRT having a suppressed axis need to be at a higher level of testosterone to feel good than guys who have a fully functional axis? Maybe the "range" is only useful for guys who are natural?

[@Hittdogg17]

Nope. Most guys don't have the issue that the video is referring to. Most guys don't need to have those really high levels to feel good.

[@gothops2632]

@@Hittdogg17 What % of guys who are "low normal" end up feeling better on TRT in the long term? 10%

[@Hittdogg17]

@@gothops2632 more than that. Especially if they start with good protocol. From my experience atleast half

[@loseyourlife4042]

My total was 1500 and so my doctor lowered me! I’m 46.

[@semirjemill]

Yea thats too much lol your good with 800-900

[@andrepohlann]

In a way I agree. BUT the higher you go the higher the chance for E2 related side effects. So there is an upper limit if you want to avoid an AI. And the activity of aromatase is different for everybody. You adressed this many times. What works for Danny does not work a fat guy with increased aromates activity, high insulin etc.

[@andrepohlann]

@Dragaroob My point is the "fatty" will run into trouble before he feels ok.

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

They AREN'T E2 related side effects. They are called "I'm taking too much testosterone" side effects. I don't mesure or concern myself with E2 whatsoever.

[@andrepohlann]

@@TheDannyBossaPodcast Do you know your current E2 level?

[@TheDannyBossaPodcast]

@@andrepohlann no. I know I'm not deficient. I haven't measured it in over two years.

[@tc5691]

What’s E2 side effects?

[@duckfece]

why dont anybody talk about 68 year optimized cant get balanced.

[@YourLifeRedefined]

Elevate Men’s Clinic will get you dialed in

[@giovannigiorgio8664]

Troy Mylius where are they located?

[@bigrnu1]

@@giovannigiorgio8664 Florida

[@giovannigiorgio8664]

bigrnu1 thanks

[@gmajor9913]

My bloods just came back with Total >1500...but Free a 17.........My doctor's advice: Skip your shot for two weeks....#smh

[@BeardsandCars]

How did that work out? My doctor literally just told me the same thing today

[@7THxSIGN]

I disagree. There is a such thing as too much. Plus too much can affect other hormone levels. I was on 1cc of 200mg a week and felt like crap. Zero energy and libido. Did my blood work and was over 1381ng/dL. Prolactin was elevated along with estrogen. I lowered my dose and began micro dosing. Got on an AI and Cabergolne and I have never felt better!!!! I’m 40 years old and feel like I’m back in my 20s.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Why the AI?

[@7THxSIGN]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization my high estrogen was contributing to my negative symptoms. I had absolutely zero energy and libido. I felt dead. So I was put on a small dose of Anastrozole at 0.25 mg a week. The doctor says I won’t need to be on it long.

[@7THxSIGN]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization my elevated estrogen and prolactin was definitely due to too much testosterone dosage. At one time I was on 2cc a week of 200mg cyp. Way too much! This is why so many people on TRT say they felt great in the beginning of the treatment. Libido and energy up, feeling young again. Then after a couple of months, they feel the complete opposite. No energy, ED, libido dead. Too much test and it will mess up and throw all your other hormones out of wack. This is what happened to me. Took me years and a lot of blood work to figure out.

[@7THxSIGN]

@@TRTandHormoneOptimization your channel definitely helped me a great deal! Especially your micro dosing videos.

[@cykablyat867]

Agreed too, this is the best way to get a gyno

[@PrimalPetersen]

Do you think free test of 130 is too high with Oestradiol of 16.4?

[@planetphatness]

Dude I just got my labs back today and my free is 423, I feel great though but it has me worried. I guess it's not that big of a deal I can decrease my dose when I get refills.

[@PrimalPetersen]

@@planetphatness That’s mad. Haha. My natural free was 18. I’ve been on 175mg test C/ week for 8 months and now I’m 130. I don’t actually feel any different. Would consider increasing dose but I’m unsure where my Oestradiol should be for the numbers.

[@planetphatness]

@@PrimalPetersen my free was in the lower range before I started TRT, my doctor said my levels are fine though.

[@calvinchauvin78]

Have you heard of anyone getting on trt for 3 mnths and feeling great and a couple weeks later not feeling great again? I take 50mg 2xs a week

[@planetphatness]

@calvinchauvin78 I've read when you do shots it's kind of an up and down thing, I'm looking into the pellet because it advertises a consistent dose kver time.

[@madhatter9001]

They keep lowering the range because there are so many fat men.

[@TRTandHormoneOptimization]

Exactly!

[@Hittdogg17]

If you need really high total t levels you may want to look into your free t levels. Before just giving more testosterone. ALSO: There is a difference between "hyper excretion" and needing a higher serum level to feel good. If you need 300mg to get the same serum level as 150mg does for someone else may just mean you excrete the drug faster so it doesn't build up as much. However if you need 1400 total t to feel good there maybe some other issues

[@georgecottell6616]

In the end, very often, the result is the same. Raise your dose until you feel better.

[@Hittdogg17]

@@georgecottell6616 everyone is different but the majority feel great with 100-150mg..

[@Hittdogg17]

@@georgecottell6616 everyone is different but the majority feel great with 100-150mg..

[@davidharris8797]

This guy is just unlivable and some of what he says is not all true …

[@209esov6]

This karen popped on my feed again lol!