My Range Rover Ownership First Year Review! Is L322 Unreliability Worth the Hassle?

My Range Rover Ownership First Year Review! Is L322 Unreliability Worth the Hassle?
I decided to give a run down of my highs and lows of Range Rover ownership so far. Having owned my L322 for almost a year I have certainly learnt a lot so hopefully the knowledge I've shared could help anybody who is looking to purchase one!
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[@perro0076]

I came here as Matt from High Peaks Auto mentioned you. Nice review. Totally agree. I would even add that it is a car for the open road, not short trips or school runs. A real motorway cruiser. In short trips it just doesn't shine as much

[@Nigel_Pugh]

It's good to see that down to earth people are making down to earth videos about cars and are telling it how it is and giving good common sense advice. I only looked at this video after it was praised by Matt on his High Peak Autos video review of his Range Rover Westminster. A very enjoyable video. Keep up the good work.

[@davealbon2085]

Hi Lucy....love your channel! I have had a 2012 4.4 tdv8 for 2 years and in that time my average is 27 mpg....love that car. So what I wanted to point out to you is compared to your lease car that you are paying £500/600 per month for.....that Range Rover isn't really that expensive to run😊x

[@tonygilchrist9113]

Totally agree Lucy. I have a 2010 3.6 L322 & it's just a joy to drive. Totally worth the upkeep expenditure but I agree that if you don't have money put aside for a rainy day then you won't enjoy the experience as much. Enjoyed the vlogg 👍

[@AutomanZ]

4 Months of owning my L322 and not a penny spent apart from petrol. But on Tuesday next week it's going in for a full service and gearbox service and transfer box fluid change and that will cost me about a grand. Then it's a wheel refub and new tyres so about another £1300. Is it worth it?? OMG it so is!! Love to drive it and so nice and smooth. Being a 4.2 Supercharged it goes like stink. I love it !! I love your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@curtisj2165]

Most Ford cars from 1993 have heated windscreens. Jaguar Land Rover cars only got them because Ford were the owners. I don't think the later L405 models have that feature

[@mrjamesmay3548]

I love the looks of all range/land rovers but the reliability of them just massively puts me off. I’ve had 2 friends who’ve had all the high end autobiography’s from new and every single one has had major electrical issues. My parents have a new evogue and the sensors are intermittent, tail gate is intermittent and the rear window doesn’t go down. Also friends velar has had turbo failure and another friends velar and water ingress issues.. its hard to fathom to be honest…

[@keithvers569]

I love my L322 3.6 TDV8. Mine has had all 4 brake callipers replaced, one suspension ride height sensor and a full service and gearbox fluid change. I’m getting 20mpg round town and 30+ mpg on longer runs. Wouldn’t sell mine at all.

[@charlotteanddavestorey6553]

Once you’ve owned a Range Rover , you’ll never want anything else and no other car comes close . We’ve had a velar for the last 4 years best car we’ve ever owned .

[@DigitalJunior2003]

We had a Velar but upgraded to a brand new Range Rover Sport. Liked the Velar better…

[@trainman665]

Even more so if you buy an actual Range Rover and not the silly pretend ones. :)

[@grantmckendry3323]

D4.

[@zackdaniels6858]

Yup, that's the problem! I absolutely am HOOKED on landrover/Rangerover and I'm in Canada... Gets very expensive! But just cant seem to pull away from these beautiful vehicles. Dammit I wish LANDROVER would help me out a bit with parts and the issues IM HAVING! Getting very Hard to get my daughters to school every morning with this Beautiful looking but untrustworthy landrover.

[@markdinmore9766]

Totally agree with you

[@richarddorman7797]

I’ve had both the 2010 3.6 tdv8 and 2012 4.4 tdv8.. the 3.6 sounds better but the 4.4 returns low 30mpg makes all the difference in ownership. I’m softly looking again. Either a 2012 l322 or a l405 upto about 2015. 100% agree once you have one it’s hard to live without.

[@ianmacdonald8260]

Not just the 4.4 that never seems go go over 1500rpm but also the new 8 speed box on it.

[@lubomirkarkula8128]

Everything it’s exactly like you said !

[@shanenewport3575]

Wow! 134 miles to half a tank…that is pretty scary considering how big the tank is on these 😂 I’ve always wanted one and will tick it off my list soon I hope, aiming for an Autobiography or Westminster 4.4TDV8

[@robholland1937]

Took me 18 months to get mine sorted and a wedge of cash. It’s a Rangie and comes with a cost 😊 Buy a boring Korean box if you don’t want to spend cash I tell people

[@RunRiot2007]

Great Video, I have had my L322 for almost 18months now, and I echo your comments about having the money to maintain it. BTW have you physically checked the coolant level? Loss of coolant could be a symptom of a head gasket gone (worst case), in which case the coolant is finding its way into the engine. If the physical level does not drop, then probably just the sensor (best case)

[@robertwalker1742]

Give a Volvo XC90 a try Lucy, they are really very very well made and super safe.

[@charlestarling4]

Here is the US you cannot buy a TDV8 but you can buy a petrol V8 or a TDV6 for the L322. I had a 2012 L322 V8 with similar costs but I loved the car. I recently traded it for a V6 petrol 2017 L405 which I also love. Great video and I totally agree with your viewpoint.

[@vanstraelend]

In the last video of High Peak Autos,Matt talked about your channel,subbed

[@HarryMorton-w8c]

Owned mine l322 for 8 months totally love it 123,000 miles on the clock. Had it serviced when I got it,rear suspension bushes were shot had them replaced, has a slight wobble on the front brakes. ( Will probably change the discs and pads to see if that will sort it). Dislikes MPG averaging around 22 though managed 30 on a long motorway trip. Also a pain to park just big? Prreferred my Mitsubushi shogun for practical reasons (easier to load). But , Love the driving experience. Great car

[@richardsutton01]

Great video from High Peak Autos a couple of weeks ago going to through all the luxury car models to see if you can buy a decent luxury car for £5k. When he gets to Range Rovers he says forget it. The cars he chooses from Lexus, Merc, BMW etc are brilliant. And Matt loves Rangies! 🤣🤣

[@johnmalin1676]

Yes, but you have to realise, Matt is plugging the cars he has for sale in his showroom. Don't be fooled by his Del Boy demeanor. If RR's are so bad, why does he praise them on the other hand, when he drives around in one ? go figure.

[@richardsutton01]

@@johnmalin1676 The key element is the £5k limit but you need to watch the video.

[@trainman665]

It’s not because of the car itself though. At that price point are the ones that have not been looked after properly, and much more likely to give you problems.

[@richardsutton01]

@@trainman665 It is because of the car itself. Range Rovers are one of the most unreliable cars you can buy which is why they devalue so quickly once they are out of warranty. They do not get any more reliable as they get older so if you are intending to buy a luxury car for £5k, which suggests that you do not have a lot of spare cash available, then they are best avoided.

[@trainman665]

@@richardsutton01 The same applies to any old car for £5k. If you maintain them properly they are reliable, just like most other cars. If you cut corners, you will introduce problems, just like any other car. The issue isn’t with the model, but people not willing the maintain their car properly.

[@richardcarter1000]

Great cars, amazing value used. Keep on top of the maintenance and rust proof it. Mine's a keeper.

[@farawayporch]

Watching this video makes me thirsty! Going to drink something.

[@JG-fv9bv]

Mind you I've recently had to buy a new EGR valve and exhaust for my 2009 diesel Subaru Forester .....best part of £2,400 , and I get between 37mph - 44mph ..so its all relative vehicle to vehicle

[@robsawalker]

My company car is a G20 330e and I absolutely love it, the only criticism I have of it is that it's pretty low to get in and out of, and for my job I am often driving to remote areas with poor ground clearance. A Range Rover would be perfect for this, but having done 60k miles in 2 1/2 years, I don't want to think what the fuel bill would be at 17mpg! Great video guys, keep them coming!

[@shizenjapan]

I don't have an RR or LR, I got a land cruiser Prado 2.8 diesel. Bought it brand new last year and love it to bits. I can see the attraction with these big 4WD. I also have a BMW 116i, which is great for short commutes and blasting around the mountain roads we have here...but for snow driving, going off road, going on long trips and camping it's the cruiser every time.

[@189hosp6]

For sure, you can never go wrong with a cruiser.

[@kw8757]

When Lucy said "and that's where my battery died" I just assumed she meant the Range Rover battery....well, you would, wouldn't you?

[@garyhawkins-pianoteacherpi6490]

Every time something goes wrong with mine I’m like…..right, antihero fault. It has to go. Spend a few days looking around for something to replace it with…..literally nothing will satisfy me like this L322. Don’t really like the newer models either and they’re not much less temperamental. Go to get the car back from the garage, drive it away and spend 30 seconds driving it ‘. Ok it’s staying ‘ haha Love hate relationship.

[@johnciummo3299]

I currently own a 2016 Landrover LR 4 HSE. Previously owned RR Sport, LR 3 and a Disco. Without a doubt my favorite is my current LR4. What a vehicle! Classic Landrover styling, plus plenty of utility. When this baby comes down the street you know it’s a Land Rover. Treat them right,don’t skip on the maintenance schedule and you can drive it forever. Can’t tell you how many people have offered to my my car.

[@garryclark4653]

Consider a L322 4.4 TDV8, apart from the engine not working so hard, it comes with an 8 speed auto box compared to your 6 speed, makes it more economical than the TDV6.

[@BlurryFace-zz2ro]

Literally watched this after High peak autos. Loving the video,make me wish I had I range rover.

[@rapidvtec]

Had my L322 4.2 supercharged for 4 years & its barely gone wrong. Best car in the world i feel.

[@IPDeliev]

JesOs girl, you’re like a 1000 words per second… 1:17 into the video and I give up

[@denniswaish]

2012 L322 4.4 v8 is more economical than 3.6 v8

[@davidrogers1964]

Make sure you do the Range Rover driving experience. You’ll never want to drive anything else!

[@johnmalin1676]

Well said Lucy and for putting things into perspective. To many people to quick to criticise land Rover products. Most high end cars, and i will include Mercedes in this, from experience, are prone to electrical issues, this goes with technology. My only issue with this vlog, i should take your L322 to a Mapping tech, to look at your performance. You should be getting a lot more than 17mpg

[@peterowen4456]

I've never had or even driven a Range Rover but they do inspire immense loyalty from those who have them like Matt from High Peak Autos. The advice is spot on. If you can't afford a big bill don't buy it. As you say though, that is one hell of a lot of car for £7,000 or £9,000 if you add in the repairs.

[@DavidRodriguez-mw7ie]

Try the L322 4.4 tdv8. Even better 😊

[@chrisjohnson3590]

Lucy, I thought you had three legs when you were driving there. My eyes are going, it’s not easy being old.

[@simono4991]

Speaking as a former owner of a used Range Rover, I can fully endorse the statement "if you have too much money then a car like this is right for you"! That said, any older high-mileage luxury car is going to be exactly the same.

[@Dave..1978-i9t]

I mean....... I dunno. Yes they cost £80k new but it's not new is it. I don't get this at all. You've gone and paid £7k for a 14yr old RR that's done 170k odd miles. Matt from HP Autos said not that long ago that buying a 10yr old RR will only end in tears, and he's right. You've said it has cost you thousands in repairs in your first year of ownership. That won't change. It will continue to cost you thousands every year as it gets older and older. I can only assume that you actually had a far greater budget than £7k but that you really really wanted one so rather than spend 30-40k on a newer more reliable one, you've gone cheap and held back some of your hard earned money for the money it's gonna cost you year on year in garage bills,. That, to me, is absolute madness. You can't do RR ownership on a budget. (Oh and Saab were doing double sun visors in the 90s )

[@richard3004]

Disagree with some of that, you can do RR ownership on a budget if you do most of your own mechanical work and shop about for parts, also it won’t cost thousands each year, iv had a few and now and again you’ll get a big expense but buy one that’s been looked after and continue to look after it and they are no trouble. Admittedly Lucy’s seems to be high- ish miles, and poorly maintained so they will have to get stuck in and go through it, although no mention of rust proofing yet so be interesting to see what sills, arches and subframes are like.

[@davidmay2073]

Gawd! Dont you Waffle. ? Take a Breath!

[@LDsgarage]

Beautiful review, I have the same vehicle, same year, same color combination inside and out and same wheels. Only difference is , it's a North American model, so it's not facelifted and it still has the 4.2L supercharged engine before they went to the "upgraded" 5L in 2010. I've also had mine just over a year, about 100k miles now and no complaints 👌

[@189hosp6]

This gives me hope. Just picked up 08, 4.4 L322 also here in the States. Good engine and transmission. A set aside budget for repairs and upgrades.

[@LDsgarage]

@189 Hosp Welcome to the L322 club!! Is this your first L322? Are you planning on daily driving this? I would say I use mine as a secondary vehicle and generally weekend driven. If you enjoy working on cars,, you will be just fine, plus parts are more available now. Don't be intimated, it's just like every other car. Even if you're not handy, the Range Rover community is extremely helpful, and love to share their experience with other enthusiasts. Enjoy!

[@189hosp6]

@LDsGarage Well, this is my first L322, but 3rd RR'S. I'm quite familiar with its horrible reputation, some true and some not, all depends on which angle one approaches it. This one is mostly for the weekend drive within the countryside. Appreciate the shout-out.

[@nicjohnson2522]

Honest review. They need looking after. Sometimes you can get a good one that has had a lot spent on it and get lucky.

[@minutesandmils3466]

Land Rover philosophy: "a fool and his money are soon parted"

[@135Ops]

Lucy needs to slow down, take a breath and chill out.

[@Coolcmsc]

A second hand one of these makes sense if you don’t sell it and you can afford to keep it.

[@colofsco1]

Buying a Range Rover, you better have DEEP..........POCKETS. Buying a used one, you need your bloody head tested!!!!!

[@bertieschitz-peas429]

You bought a car that does 17mpg?

[@fergalcummins3775]

Enjoyable videos & engaging content Lucy. Your passion for your L322 shines through & that is marvellous. Did I hear correctly that you spent £9000 on servicing over one year? How much money have you spent on fuel over the past year roughly? Thank you 😊

[@CornwallGBF]

I think she said 7K for car and 2K servicing

[@mercedeslove4291]

Sun visor is an old saab trick

[@orwell9579]

I like your yellow nails

[@johnchristmas7522]

Buying any high end car, you may be getting it cheaper but like this young lady says, its expensive to upkeep, keeping in mind someone else has had it when it was relatively free from huge bills. Plus its a v8! never going to be frugal, it wasn't designed to be. If you can afford the upkeep, its a great car, never meant for taking kids to school. All cars need the occasional long drive, so be prepared for the fuel bills! My daughter is married to a very well off guy and she drives a Range Rover SVR and boy does it go! But I can feel the petrol guage going down on each accelleration! If I had the money, then yes a Range Rover would be my first choice. You just have to be realistic!

[@straightsix9140]

Love your channel . I'm in the other club Toyota Landcruiser club lol . We are gobsmacked by issues and repair bills on these Range Rovers ..... Talk to any of us Land Cruiser owners and we struggle to fill a post it note with any issues we would have in 5 years of running one . Expect 300,000 to 500,000 miles from one no bother . Second hand prices reflect this ,simlar age Land Cruiser would be around 40k , but long run hassle free motoring . You should test drive one on your channel , Range Rover meets the competition ! 🤔

[@BobTheBlue]

I can’t stand people who complain about running costs on an old L322….What do you expect when you spend just £7K on a high mileage car worth just 8% of its original price?

[@andrewgage6942]

I've not got the luxury of a Range Rover, I've got a 2007 Land Rover Discovery 3, I bought it cheap knowing that it needed work done, the previous owner didn't go very far and the fuel consumption reading when I picked it up was 16.5mpg, I use it mainly for long journeys and load carrying, initially I bought it because a friend of mine had cancer and lost his license due to his eyesight failing after the initial operation, a few of us used to visit him and take him out for the day, my other car (believe it or not, my main car is a Smart ForTwo diesel, no good for carrying passengers), I've spent a few grand on the Discovery, but having owned one, although I don't use it every day, I wouldn't be without it, I've put sofas, beds, wardrobes, all-sorts in it, let alone carrying 7 fully grown adults, some of which aren't that small in there, as far as reliability goes, it's had minor electrical issues, central locking not working, warning lights that just needed resetting, major stuff like the brakes, handbrake, belts, oil changes, service etc, I knew about before buying, I got the car very cheap so what I would have spent on a car of the same year all up together, this is now up together for less, because I mainly use it for longer journeys, my average mpg figure is around 31-33, it's been off-road a few times since I've owned it (nearly two years), it does everything I want it to, I owned series Land Rovers before and a couple of early V8 petrol Range Rovers, I also had a Discovery 4.0 V8 petrol/LPG, unfortunately tin worm got the better of that, I didn't own a Land Rover for 10 years, once I got another one, I realised just how much I missed not having one

[@benjones1917]

You either have to have money for repairs or be good with spanners to own an old Range Rover. Having rebuilt the engine on my 1995 4.6 HSE, I'm now working through its many MANY electrical issues 😂

[@MrAnderson321]

Can you do a video on the BMW you own, I’m intrigued. I own a Velar but was toying with a BMW 3 Series 330e.

[@ianrobinson9243]

I had a Range Rover Sport then a Discovery 4 and said when I got the Discovery 4 that I couldn’t ever see me owning any other brand of car…… I drive a Honda Civic now !!

[@Adventures-and-More]

Good video Love!

[@robertvanruyssevelt7159]

No. Do not buy.

[@paulbutler6588]

Go back to bmw anything made in uk means trouble and falls to bits

[@elliottpeters2996]

Said by a man who has clearly never owned a German car!

[@bryanquinn1122]

I bought my L322 TDV8 in 2012 and sold it in 2019 for a L405 Hybrid. L322 was the best car regret selling it. Thank you For your videos🙏

[@richardeden2073]

No disrespect, but buying a Land Cruiser V8 would have been far more reliable

[@howardlake6178]

I am launching a food channel in a few weeks. With your diction, Bon homie, and beauty, you would make a fortune with the majority of the market in the US. 😀

[@parvinkukar1259]

Not a fan of the Range Rover but owned the jag xjl 2011 model and lot of the things you mentioned applied except the mpg. However enjoyed owning it for a year. Definitely agree in buy a car where you can afford the expense of owning it. Love to own a old Bentley continental gt or Aston Martin vanquish but I know I could not afford or justify the potential repair bills and running cost but can for a Porsche Cayman 987. It’s all about compromise Great vid and just subscribed

[@thesilverfox135]

Lucy, never seen your channel before but I just love your brutal honesty. I’ve been toying with the idea of getting Range Rover and the running costs have always made me hesitate. However I feel your advice is sound. Buy a car £5k less than your total budget which gives a repair fund. Thanks and please keep the updates coming.

[@johnknipe5673]

I run an 07 RRS 3.6 and also a 2010 L322 4.4. The L322 is certainly more comfortable and rides better but the sport has way better steering and brakes plus it is a much handier size even if it is a bit thirsty.

[@markdinmore9766]

I have l494 and I love it always wanted a rr and I am just a working class. I think if you look after you rr it will look after you and you can in joy a lot more keep your videos going they are always helpful and informative

[@kedileepagett4092]

Hello I have the tdv8 range rover sport. The low coolant level that you have on dash is just the censor in bottle can buy the whole replacement bottle and fit yourself problem solved.

[@biffa4444]

Absolutely love my l322. Wouldn't want any other car, but must say your mpg is not very good. My 3.6 does about mind 20s around town and 30s on a run.

[@ianmacdonald8260]

17mpg seems low. Mine says 21.5mpg. I do like watching out your window on these as you often drive around where I live and sometimes past the end of my road.

[@genieb]

I love these, had a 2010 Autobiography SC and it was AWESOME. Only issue was 1 of the rear calipers seizing up on a trip (fixed easily by a local garage, replaced weeks later fully refurbed both rear callipers), rest was normal maintenance and it did brilliantly on the longer road trips here in NZ but also around town it is amazingly comfortable.

[@wafty6435]

Get my 2011 4.4 TDV8 next week.... Wish me luck lol

[@johnelbro127]

Great comments Lucy, said with pride. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@Vontharau47]

Now that everythig got fixed, this car shouldn't be costing that much in the next year, i suppose. Would be great to keep it another year and update us on the costs again :)

[@nolanstaveley-haynes2129]

Morning Lucy hope you three are well. Love the RR videos. It's simlpe unless you own a RR people just don't get it simple. I'm on my 5th L322 all bought second hand. Service properly with decent parts and yes they are a luxury car but the mistake is people try to run them on a budget and then complain about them. Look after them and they will run for ever. Just remember the late Queens daily driver was an L322. Take care cheers

[@georgesemple8136]

Yes ,,But the queen had an neverending Budget and had a spare for when one was getting repaired

[@189hosp6]

@@georgesemple8136 😆 🤣 late Queen was avid RR LR enthusiast.

[@davidwilliams6644]

great video , was shocked at your mpg , my 4.4tdv8 is doing 27mpg round town and 35 on a run,

[@Roadkill7878]

Great advice. You have pretty much echoed the thoughts of highpeakautos and Matt is a big Range Rover fan

[@greg55678]

Just thought I’d let you know that you’ve had a mention on the latest High Peak Autos video!

[@bobbybridgeman2629]

Lucy put a bottle of redex diesel cleaner in the tank, it will do wonders for your mpg. 👍

[@paulmayhew8085]

Hi Lucy, love the video, all the faults you have had with your L322 are common so yes any buyer should have a slush fund for repairs👍 btw, have you counted how many times you say BMW? 😉

[@bh635]

Your mpg is not correct you should be getting much higher I would look into the egr potentially block that off and get the the injectors checked you should be getting around 33 on the motorway and about 25 mpg combined that's what I get

[@wesleyselkridge2197]

17mpg that cant be right surely??!! Even for a beast like that it's got to be 25 - 30mpg. Get that checked out.

[@-DC-]

You've never owned one have you 🤣, V8 heavy auto 4wd poor aerodynamics it all comes at a price.

[@user-fn1rb9ze6p]

I think people forget how old these cars are getting now and people still rag on em I love them 🥰

[@benjones1180]

I think you can run these cars on a smaller budget , so long as you are handy yourself to work on it

[@samben882]

Sounds like an absolutely nightmare of a car in-terms of annual costs close to £3k and 17MPG driving. Personally I really don’t get the attraction. Not saying a car is just for getting to A to B - but old ranger rovers have dropped 80% in price from new for a reason, because the majority do not want them. Yes they look the business inside, but a car is car after a while if owning IMO.

[@CornwallGBF]

I hated them until I bought one. 3 years later and I can say I love it, wouldn't swap for any other car. Mines a L320 4.4 V8 Petrol

[@simonmills2250]

I had one of those for 2 years and never realised it had 2 sunvisors!

[@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime]

Here's the thing about cars, especially luxury cars, if you're the kind of person that is happy with a Dacia then I wish you luck in purgatory but if you want motoring heaven then it costs. Thing is there's no escape from it. You either buy new and get everything under warranty but the new price of a Range Rover is over £100,000 or you buy second hand in which case you'll pay much less upfront but much more in maintenance. Luxury costs, power costs, refinement costs and if you can't meet those costs either new or second hand then enjoy your Dacia. If that's even possible.

[@Yorkman7]

What an arrogant comment. I drive something at the other end of the car scale and enjoy it. I know people love Land Rovers but find it hard to understand why. Lucy at least is honest and upfront about the costs and (un) reliability and unlike you does not pose and look down on people who for a variety of reasons drive something else

[@ianrobinson9243]

Nice to see you get a mention on the High Peaks YT channel.

[@Lee-to2kl]

I came here because of Matt at high peak autos 👍😎

[@johnriley140]

32 mpg get a remap egr delete performance filter good tyres

[@stevenbennett3922]

You're right. Every car should have one.

[@paulsaunders6536]

Bottom line with any top end luxury car like this. If you couldn’t afford to buy a new one you probably can’t afford to run it second hand.

[@bordersw1239]

New one on PCP is £1k per month and £24k deposit. This is a £7K car and parts are generally available. Plenty of people on average incomes manage to run old ones.

[@peterfigueroa5942]

😅 nice blog,very informative 👍

[@mulhamharrasi1724]

Great video as always

[@FleetAdmiral215]

Love the L322 RangeRover, Great Video

[@roybarker5896]

🧐A Toyota Land Cruiser is better and cheaper to run .

[@davidgallop484]

Kia Sorento much better vehicle

[@ronaldregio]

Yea

[@stevenbennett3922]

Sun visor. Check Mitsubishi out. Shogun.

[@ianmacdonald8260]

It’s probably fallen off

[@-DC-]

If all you can spend is 7K on a car a elderly high mileage Range Rover is just about the worst possible choice you can make, Like a ticking time bomb ready to bankrupt you at any second, Beautiful Garbage about sums them up.

[@James-eb8vf]

But you bought an old luxury with high miles and now complaining about its upkeep? Its an 80k car day one that needs 80k car maintenance all its life.