My NIGHTMARE Range Rover ownership experience over the past 2 years (NEVER EVER BUY A CHEAP ONE)

[@HooviesGarage]

Thanks Eddy's Chevrolet for letting me borrow the very very custom Defender! Check out their amazing inventory here: www.eddyschevrolet.com

[@jjbelk06]

Hoovie, I don't believe they have the Defender listed unless I missed something.

[@LogitechXibanga]

@Hoovies Garage check the alarm when you lock the car with the FOB it may be draining your battery it tends to do that on british cars, it turns on the volumetric alarm

[@Sawyer1117]

ineos grenadier is a better older Land Rover that’s new. You need to do a video on one

[@markmawson1]

You want a steroid filled Defender get a Bowler Wildcat version.

[@Rekuzan]

99% of all Rovers ever made are still on the road today! (The other 1% actually made it back to the shop...)

[@AeroGuy07]

My stepbrothers wife used to be a successful salesperson for one of the big radio networks and she always bought Range Rovers. But as soon as they got close to the end of the warranty she'd trade it in on a new one. When she retired, she bought an Acura.

[@orishaeshu1084]

Oddly specific.

[@petesmitt]

@@orishaeshu1084 It was actually his wife's stepbrother.. that's more believable?

[@orishaeshu1084]

@@petesmitt “stepbro pls help I’m stuck!”Said his wife.

[@AeroGuy07]

@@orishaeshu1084 This is KZbin, not Pornhub, so my story doesn't end like that. Sorry if your disappointed.

[@orishaeshu1084]

@@AeroGuy07 glad you got the joke 😂

[@marktowill2828]

Sorry to hear your misadventures, I have a 2008 full size with the good 4.4 jaguar engine, waiting for the original air suspension to leak, but so far other then brakes it has been great! Than again I am proactive , Keep it on a trickle charger and rebuilt the air compressor. It is the perfect cold weather car here in Canada

[@andrewk8979]

The customized Defender is truly impressive. All it needs is a wealthy, adventure-minded buyer who will no doubt feel confident in using it to make that demanding, treacherous and unforgiving trek to the nearest Starbucks.

[@Blue_Flame_Raptor]

Top comment right here

[@mattadrev471]

or one that is blind and can't see those seats

[@theyunglos]

The true Apex Predators of Traffic 1. infinity/Altima with drive out tags and body damage. 2. Soccer Moms in Land Rovers

[@andyreynolds6194]

It’s absolutely gopping, sorry.

[@wardmontgomery9259]

as long as it’s not raining or snowing …

[@H20Toie]

So sad, i have a 2008 supercharged that has 150k miles, bought it used with 20k miles, only issue i had was ac quit 8 years ago and cost $800 to fixed, been great truck

[@stm4930]

The 07-09 is the way to go. Way more reliable

[@nickforsythandkids]

My suspension light error was the brake switch on the brake pedal. Nice cheap fix. £10. No issues with the actual brake lights but I read on a forum it could cause the warning light and transmission errors etc. changed it 3 years ago and it has never happened since.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

This is wacky enough to seem plausible.

[@nickforsythandkids]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH I’ve done just over nearly 40,000 miles since I’ve changed the switch and i haven’t had the error lights since. I know it’s ridiculous but it fixed my problem.

[@icyblu9836]

Maybe they're not all that bad. It's just very weird causes to each issue

[@ogalief]

The smart-key feature on my German land-yacht is causing a fault in the transmission due to a short in a door handle. Nothing surprises me anymore with high end 2000s European cars

[@paulstring]

Me too! Had a 2007 LR3--same issue. That was an absolute beast of a truck that had VERY few problems

[@accreditationexperts]

I must admit my experience with the brand range rover has been very different, as I have never had a vehicle as reliable as my 2008 Range Rover HSE. It has been nothing but a gem, never left me stranded. I absolutely love my car. Just rolled over 102K miles lives in Los Angeles, and it is my favorite of my cars. I also own a 1997 S 320 W140 MB, a 1995 E320 cab, and a 1995 MB E320 TE, and of all these, my RR is my favorite still today. So I disagree with everything Tyler says.Let's face it, when you own a car, any car, you must maintain it in a preventative way. I did that and I love my car still today.

[@993km]

has the camshaft snapped in half yet?

[@oglaceddrug]

@@993kmwhy? Did yours ?

[@knockknock2998]

@@993kmyou just want it to fail 🤪

[@bobschnittman2856]

agreed! my 2005 Range Rover is amazing.

[@stephenpato5524]

@@993km ...that issue is on the 2.7 diesel. The crankshafts are known to crack on those. The 5.0 is solid aside from the chain tensioners.

[@jkyontz]

Like the Wizard said, “ If you can’t afford a new one, don’t buy a used one.”

[@y2ksierra]

That’s no fun.

[@carsaregood911]

Then why buy a used one when you can get a new one? 🤔

[@Noelonthemoon]

I can’t afford a new Toyota but I sure as hell will by a used one for cheap 😂

[@Superdarp13]

I bought almost the same car a couple of months before the original video came out and was sour at the great price Hoovie got. 18 months later I’m glad I paid the premium, car has been fabulous.

[@ИванИванов-о6ц6м]

worst then bmtrouble you?

[@CM-pw4jk]

Part it out, make a video on how little you can get.... race to the bottom. Keep the interior for your office as a trophy.

[@MrSteveo114]

I would say keep the interior in his office as a reminder to never buy another one if anything 🤣

[@jhudson7240]

I agree, many good parts. Surely the sum of it''s parts are more valuable than it is as a running, driving vehicle.

[@Piner5074]

The secret with LR/RR is to buy new and never skimp on maintenance, and sell before warranty is up. The crucial turning point is the first and subsequent owners after the warranty runs out. As soon as it’s run on a limited budget and servicing starts to get missed and/or not done at a specialist, that’s the start of things going down hill. Buying this vehicle at any point in its history, doesn’t mean you can maintain it at the price level you bought it at, it always has to be maintained like a $100k vehicle, do that and it’ll run and run. Buy one of these from an loving original owner and cherish it also then you’ll do alright. Neglect it and it’ll bite your a***

[@craigsanislo7458]

The battery drain is 100% the Body Control Module. Impossible to fix though, on back order from England, current estimate on when they’re going to get made is 2-10 months

[@Offensivebeast]

Definitely

[@TheChocolateChamp]

Lol wtf are you serious? That's so stupid.

[@kens8903]

2-10 months?? 😂oui

[@craigsanislo7458]

@@kens8903 right, so the deal is you pay Land Rover $1200 and then they put your VIN on a list and they’ll give you a call when they feel like making your part.

[@michaelcoonce6694]

And people wonder why I drive a ford

[@kenwinnen3904]

I have a unicorn a 2003 Land Rover Disco 2 with 201000 miles still runs drove it two times though the 199 in Oregon to Medford over 150 miles twice in one month still runs good. Yes cats bad leaks a little oil and little things with the auto locks. Drive or off road a lot. Still love it. But showing its miles....

[@jeffstack7013]

Back to back days with Hoovie, and Tavarish uploads!!!

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Tavarish got off his rear end and put out a video after all these months? Surprising. I want to see if he got his cee-ment pond fixed.

[@johan8724]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH he bought a mclaren p1 flood damaged in his last video.

[@foyorama]

I have had my Range Rover Sport since 2013, I bought it new, and contrary to popular belief I have never had any problems with it, perhaps out of luck but I always take good care of it and for the last ten years it has taken good care of me 😎

[@cafe405]

Take us back to the good old days when we could just take out the bulb on a warning light.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

I had a Subaru Forester with a semi-constant CEL. I would fix one thing and it would last a few weeks, then another thing would trigger it. I finally got rid of the bulb. Ignorance is bliss.

[@y2ksierra]

You can code them out of some clusters 🤣

[@cafe405]

@@y2ksierra I mean you possibly can, I definitely can't.

[@y2ksierra]

@@cafe405 I once bought a truck that had a piece of electrical tape over the SES light that I didn’t notice until the next day. The joys of buying questionable purchases at night 🥲. I guess that’s the lowest tech solution, haha.

[@cafe405]

@@y2ksierrathere's something quite special about the laziness and audacity of selling a car with that level of cowboy mechanics.

[@captainnemo2550]

My 94' discovery v8 manual runs great. I've some offroad modification but it's still ok on the road. Old LRs (before BMW era) are extremely reliable and can be fixed with basic tools and almost no experience. I took it to several jungle expeditions, offroad trails (mud and sand) and some road trips, has never failed me. I'm the fifth owner, bought it with a destroyed engine which took me a couple months to fix as well fitting a new clutch, steering pump and some electrical bits and mods. Probably dumped around 6-7k on it and it's just a brilliant car. I have another brand new Toyota pick up and a 2010 Range Rover but I rather daily drive my Disco any day.

[@DigiMannen]

Range Rovers until Gen 3 2006 with M57 BMW diesel they were reliable, but not with the Jaguar and Ford engines.

[@alabama2uz]

You should've kept the 300,000 mile Lexus LX. At least you'd always have one car that works

[@Andrew-on5do]

He would have no content if he had Japanese cars on here.

[@johnbrobston1334]

Remember, this is supposed to be the _dumbest_ automotive channel on KZbin. And keeping the Lexus wouldn't have been dumb.

[@1983Corolla]

Kind of missing the point that he has to keep buying shitty cars and breaking them to have any videos to make

[@AI-qd4vb]

But then he'd have to start taking depression pills...

[@stephenoverstreet9898]

I have a 2010 Range Rover HSE. Not the sport, the full-fat RR. Sure, I’ve had 2 problems (alternator and parking brake), various minor electrical gremlins, and it has some expensive maintenance, but I love it. If you go into it eyes wide open, then you won’t be upset. You’ll simply enjoy the best car ever.

[@erikberg8098]

It sounds like you’ve gotten the FULL Land Rover experience! I’m truly sorry, Hoovie. I too love the way they look & sound, and love the capabilities, but seeing your struggles and hearing nearly everyone in car fandom say the same about LR “reliability” will keep me coming back to Toyota for all my hard core off-road needs.

[@Mr-pn2eh]

Except we don't get the Land CRUISER anymore

[@AI-qd4vb]

Sorry for what? That was his motto. He bought beat down cars for views. It's not like he's loosing he's daily driver or anything. Most of his cars are rotting in garages anyways

[@brendanlayer7131]

I like how much Tyler seems to truly love and enjoy these cars. I’ve been hoping to get another video or two of his blue Corvette.

[@coleyuhas7891]

Check the mini fridge hoovie! I actually had the same exact car with the same exact issue. The fridge was causing the battery drain.

[@itz_not_brennan8088]

I had a p38 range rover that was coil swapped and I loved it honestly very reliable and drove it every day. It had 200k miles and never left me stranded

[@maitinnes6797]

Same here! Had to take the parking solenoid out and it leaks oil like no other but I love it!

[@Chris_Gordon_1973]

I love the old Land Rovers and Defenders, I had the opportunity many years back to go round the 'jungle track' in Solihull. Ended up towing some of the newer models out. The newer ones are for people with money to throw away. I even drove past one stuck in heavy snow in a vw passat

[@mrthomasgrant57]

I purchased a 2012 Range Rover Sport with 130k on it early this year. Not supercharged, but it is the GT Special Edition. When I bought it dealer told me they had replaced 2/3 of the suspension modules because there was a suspension fault. The last was on order but not in yet, but he conditioned the sale saying that if the error came back he would take care of it. Of course on my drive home, the fault came on the dash. He put that part on…didn’t fix it of course lol. Put an additional couple of parts on it & finally got it sorted. I recently took it in for oil change & inspection to a ship that specializes in these (local dealer won’t work on LRs over 10 years old)…there was one item it failed inspection wise. Wiper blades! I was totally shocked. Love the car. Have always loved them, always wanted one & had been super nervous buying the one I did, but happy with my decision. Maybe I got lucky 😂🤷🏼‍♂️

[@williamegler8771]

You have only owned it for a few months. Even the most unreliable vehicle can have periods where they behave perfectly.

[@mrthomasgrant57]

@@williamegler8771 that is very true. I’m not new to the game. However, my point was that for a RANGE ROVER to only fail one inspection area, of all being wiper blades is funny to me. Most cars a shop would at least point at something mechanically wrong with one of these was my point.

[@oglaceddrug]

I own a 2011 rr… I noticed that people don’t post the good experiences they have with these vehicles.. I paid $7500 in 2021… put $1500 in it upon purchase (because I knew what the problem was when I bought it) valve cover gaskets… other than that I’ve put 25k on the 133k (which I purchased it at)…. So, if it last 2-3 years , I’m most likely going to sell it at 170k (maintained)

[@v8intimidator]

$300k for the Landy conversion seams a lot , we have a company in the Uk called Overfinch that have been custom building Land Rovers since 1975 & were well known for putting American V8's in Range Rovers. As for you power drain , I had a P38 Range Rover that if left for a couple of days would flatten the battery , had new batteries, new ECU + relays but couldn't fix it. The dealer thought there must be a remote garage opener on the same wave length as my car in the area that keeps waking up the ECU , hence the power drain, have to have a trickle charger to get around the issue.

[@wotexpat9367]

The embossed logo in the Land Rovers headrest is the Insignia for 22 SAS (Special Air Service).

[@Teh1nternetPerv]

Would someone in the SAS even be able to afford one of these?

[@wotexpat9367]

@@Teh1nternetPerv Well it depends. Firstly rank. Officers have connections and capability. PMCs pay well and you can charge a lot. Whilst serving - unlikely - however using your skills and knowledge after leaving the service is up to you. So, TLDR: Yes.

[@dgw4049]

Keep making these videos because I need regular reminders every time I think owning an old rover can’t be too bad.

[@oglaceddrug]

He had it for 2 years

[@oglaceddrug]

He had it for 2 years

[@petescarport]

Well we car lovers keep doing it. I made a video buying the cheapest 2003 Range Rover in the country and 4 months later my timing chain skipped and engine was done. The vehicle was so amazing and so beautiful and had low miles considering. But in the end it got me

[@richardsmith3136]

Pete... Let me know if you are considering another Range Rover. I have an associate that has a 2010 for sale. It has over 100k, but he told me that he has addressed all of the known issues with this model in addition to issues that were specific to the vehicle that he has. Just thought I'd mention it...

[@marccadec6978]

The discovery lll is the same chassis and underneath bits, there are loads on the road here, The diesel have no issues.

[@stephenneptune022]

Had the exact same car. Mine was a 2011. Timing chains went bad at 50k. Had it fixed then it was a domino effect of other issues. Worst car I’ve ever had and worked on ended up, trading it in at Carmax.

[@christopherd4997]

I’m sad you took the air suspension off. Especially because Arnott warranties the shocks.

[@JMB676]

It be really nice if the people you wanted to get the suspension from the first time which Land Rover wouldn’t allow you to do would sponsor an install it in your truck to show what a better quality system it is and that they can get the light off I think that would really sell a lot of products for them.

[@richardsmith3136]

Arnott doesn't need anymore business IMHO. I have replaced the stock air ride on both my Jaguar XJ (2006) and MBZ S550) 2009 with Arnott struts, and I'm extremely them. Only issue I have experienced to date was that one developed a slow-leak and would fail if the car sat for over 24 hours. Contacted Arnott about it and they told my that their struts carry a lifetime warranty. Just have to send them the core...and they send you a new part. Was easy and surprisingly fast...

[@warseiker426]

How is that range rover unfixable?o: Just send it to a specialist. We've owned a 2006 range rover sport nothing went wrong with it. 2012 Vogue, best looking one and as good as the older if not better. We've owned our current 2014 Sport Supercharged (for 6 years) and 2013 Range Rover Autobiography (for about a year and half with 130k miles in it) and they've been amazing

[@antipathous]

I knew a sales/marketing guy at the last company I worked for. He was always broke even though he made six figures. The type of guy that was 100% focused on image and what he portrayed, regardless of the truth. So of course, he drove a 10 year old Land Rover. It was likely not the only factor contributing to his never ending insolvency, but I doubt that it helped. That old Defender is cool though. If I was an SUV guy I can imagine that'd be the type of thing I'd consider.

[@mrcrazycrazy1000]

Draws can be such a pain, recently at my shop. A newer vehicle kept dying when it sat over night sometimes. 20 hours of diag, hotline contacted, field service engineer came down, no one could figure it out. Then on a -40 day another tech walked by it parked outside and the headlights were on. Told the tech working on it hey you left the headlights on. Turned out to be on -30 or colder days the headlights would come on and kill the battery

[@johnsharkey1980]

I’ve had 7 land rovers…mostly Range Rover Vogues but only had 1 dog and it was the previous owners penny pinching that was the cause. I see so many videos like this and they piss me off because the cars are good but the owners try to maintain them on the cheap or the ‘Dealer’ hasn’t got a clue how to fix them. They’re beautiful and very very capable cars and they never let you down when you look after them.

[@foxlake6750]

What maintenance would be involved with the airbags or wiring issues ? It just happens. More about poor design, poor engineering and poor quality issues. RR issues have been happening for decades and are at the bottom of the Consumer Reports reliability list.

[@johnsharkey1980]

@@foxlake6750 a £10 brake light switch…

[@johnsharkey1980]

@@foxlake6750 airbags do wear out you know, wiring turns brittle it’s a massive problem on airliners that’s why they have D checks, at least be clued up if your gonna try act smart

[@schmidt28117]

I think it was one of the old Mercedes forums you used to belong to.... someone asked about a Range Rover. The response was "if you think Mercedes maintenance is high, Range Rover is astounding". 8( Ask Samcrac also, they have snake bit him several times.

[@ronsimmons1851]

Check the short earth wire which is attached to the top of the strut under the bonnet (1 on each side), these were very prone to snapping and will give suspension faults - a very easy fix if it is the issue.

[@rglover82201]

Check the remote start if it has it. I had a very similar issue on my 2017 Hyundai. The battery kept draining. Took it to 3 different mechanics. Finally my local dealership was doing some recall work and noticed the remote start had been installed incorrectly. We had paid a dealership we bought the car from to install remote start. Once the remote start was removed. The battery drain problem was fixed.

[@Notourtube]

They’re such beautiful cars… why can’t they just hire Toyotas head of QC!?

[@cramiro71]

I owned a LR disco3 for several years and I will never again. I sold it last year for 2grand an I feel so happy now. Fortunately suspension is something I never repaired, the light was on for more than 8 years. So totally agree in that sense

[@williamlloyd3769]

Sounds like Land Rover would make for an interesting EV conversion project given body and interior looks so clean.

[@tankman-ku5zc]

I love my Bosch. Got it from menards for $50 on sale. Easy 1 handed switch operation. Pretty quiet and low on vibrations. Don't use it a lot had it since 2017. Still going strong.

[@craigsanislo7458]

Suspension error is likely a tiny hole leak in one of the air springs that only gets exposed in certain occasions when you’re driving it

[@billb.2673]

Then why is it on at start-up?

[@craigsanislo7458]

@@billb.2673 suspension control module gets confused when components aren’t behaving, but it was the wrong move for him to do a coil swap. Those never drive right. The only other thing it could be is on the compressor there’s an exhaust valve for when the car is lowering, or when the car is parked on uneven surface and engine off, it’ll let air out of individual corners to try to level the car. If the pressure can’t escape from a dirty and clogged exhaust valve, it’ll build pressure where it’s not supposed to and completely throw off the module.

[@97336cf]

On my 2010, the error never presents itself on startup with a leak...there's about a 10 minute window even with a severe leak before the car realizes there's a leak and presents the red warning message. On startup, it would indicate a problem with the compressor itself, or one of the many sensors that's triggered during the self check. My 2010 had an error on startup once, and it was an accelerometer/g force sensor on the right front corner

[@craigsanislo7458]

@@97336cf yeah it can be a crapshoot with these. Sometimes the piston ring in the compressor wears out and it leaks air out of the cylinder, which means the motor works too hard and overheats, and to stop it from ruining itself it just does a fault and shuts off.

[@lear60man]

@@craigsanislo7458 Bingo. All of these things can be see with Testbook at Land Rover.

[@disco3guy]

Air-to-coil suspension. Did that on my LR3 and its been great ever since. No more stupid suspension faults 🥂

[@douglaselliott8298]

20+ years ago I read of a Hollywood celebrity having to jog a mile or so to a Hollywood function because his Range Rover died in traffic. That was all I needed to know.

[@michaelharvey75]

John Candy ???

[@user-vn7hp4nq6e]

More recently, Justin Beiber’s Range Rover died in Compton and he had to sing/dance for the locals😂

[@AI-qd4vb]

Cause we all kniw how well celebrities mantain their cars

[@courier955]

Poor locals....@@user-vn7hp4nq6e

[@Tech-ez1qj]

Vehicle configuration is programmed usually into the bcm. At the dealership, we can log on to the manufacturer database and enter and remove vehicle build codes for options. Air suspension would have a 3 letter code. We change the code to a non air suspension code. Then we plug into the vehicle and download the updated vehicle configuration into the BCM. This is for a different car line than Range Rover I work for. Where I'm going with this, how does Range Rover do their vehicle configuration, and can they change it at the dealership like I can with my car line? Then, it would not look for air suspension anymore.

[@plantertrey]

You should host a demolition derby with it! Love your videos!

[@brianbyrd3903]

That would be a good use for it.

[@Fabulousprofound168]

It would break down before it hits anything. Better off launching it off a cliff in Alaska

[@keithgale2596]

Its a bit late to offer advice - and I'm sorry to hear of your woes - but I would never ever take a JLR product to the dealers. Generally they are not interested in any car beyond its warranty and usually cannot carry out in depth diagnostics. A specialist diagnostic person would be much better. The forums are full of great advice - especially on your side of the pond - to the extent that between the USA and UK, most problems are solved. I cannot speak for the Land Rover side - but on the Jaguar side of things I have a 26 year old XK8 which feels (on the mechanical side) that it is hardly worn at all. The mechanical side of things (apart from silly ideas like plastic tensioners, shared with most German and American cars of that era) are pretty bullet proof, very logical and can often be taken to bits and repaired relatively easily. The secret (like most things in life) is to buy a kit of tools and do it yourself! Nonetheless, great content and well presented as always Sir!

[@colinritchie1757]

Ranger Rovers in the US, payback for 1776

[@MotionScientific]

I have a Land Rover discovery LR3 with 243k miles and still going strong. At 240k I put a different transmission from a salvage yard that costed me 800 dollars. I’m about to replace all the air suspension shocks they cost about 150 usd on Amazon, I have already installed one and it rides just like the original.

[@nickb.6726]

What year is your LR3?

[@markhedekar4880]

A good friend just purchased a 2010 Range Rover with 134,00 km on it. I literally cringed when he told me, but I couldn't bring myself to tell him how big a mistake he just made.

[@604h22a]

That person will bankrupt themselves !

[@anomamos9095]

There is an issue with the BMW era models of constant battery drain with no fault. This is fixed by clipping the antenna for the key fob so that you can no longer unlock it from a distance of more than a few feet. The problem is caused by radio noise constantly waking the security system and the rest of the electrical systems in preparation for you opening the doors etc. the system will stay awake for at least three minutes or longer if it detects another signal. This can drain a battery over night if the battery is weak and within three days for a good battery.

[@Ingens_Scherz]

My brother-in-law has one of these - exactly the same, but 2011. Engine blew up etc. etc. but, when business picked up again post-lockdown, he put a new engine in it (and other stuff) - because he loves it. Only cost him £12,000 (what's that in dollars? I dunno these days. Like $2,000?). "You're mad," I said. "I know," he sighed. Range Rovers are more like dogs than cars; we really love our dogs.

[@philrob156]

Has the euro dropped that much? He said $10,000 so figure install labor additional parts $20k

[@anthonyfreeman5367]

I put arnott suspension on all four corners of our range Rover and it rides exactly the same as it did with factory suspension. No issues at all and it was a quarter of the price factory parts were. 2007 range Rover hse

[@craigsanislo7458]

If you actually want to get rid of it, I’ll take it off your hands. Timing chain isn’t a huge deal if you do your oil changes, the chains and tensioners only got torn up because the Land Rover recommended oil change interval for these cars was an absurd 16,000 miles

[@jcollins1305]

16k between oil changes?!? 😂😂😂😂 that’ll definitely keep you buying new ones every three years 😂😂😂

[@bradleykurtz5536]

I’d actually like to see the full suspension get replaced back to the LR air suspension. I’d rather watch a series on fixing this car than most of the recent stuff…

[@jasonbiggs4720]

The land rover defender 90-130 are very reliable vehicles if they are looked after properly. if you get one that isn't looked after properly then like any car it will have problems.

[@A2RYA]

I had one. Sold it not long ago here in Australia. They sell for 40k-50k here. Only problem I had was the timing chain. But wasn’t really a problem. I got it fixed and back to normal she was. It was my favorite car.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Basically you have to buy new ones and get rid of it as soon as the warranty runs out

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Trade, trade, trade. Meanwhile, you take a massive depreciation hit every 3-5 years, enough to pay for a new Mazda CX-5 Signature.

[@lesklower7281]

Hoovie in Australia we have a sain you can take a Land Rover into the outback but if you want to get back you take a Toyota Land Cruiser

[@lesklower7281]

@@punkinhoot Those Range Rovers are the most unreliable cars in the UK and in Australia you can take a Range Rover into the outback but if you want to get back you take a Toyota Land Cruiser

[@felixbaum48]

If you're going to drive under 5k per year these 2010-era Range Rover's are really great machines to have in your garage! If not on the road...

[@jaapaap123]

For applying a coat of oil on the garage floor?

[@J-P88]

​@@jaapaap123 water proofing, stops mold and algae from developing on garage floor

[@hedge313]

Did you mean side of the road? 😂😂😂

[@clintford9333]

I’ve had five range rovers - all used and they have been relatively sound and reliable with an expert servicing them every 6ths

[@davelr3x474]

Had the same w/my ‘11 RRSSC. Arrnot finally admitted after months, their struts had an issue with the resistor and they were all going back to engineering and basically recalled. I have emails to that effect.

[@WReXus]

If the car started leaning to one side, that means someone likely reconnected the air lines incorrectly at the valve blocks. If the left and right lines are swapped, the ECU will raise the wrong side and then give an error stating "extended mode" because the side it thought it was raising wasn't going up and so it thinks you are hung up. If instead left or right is incorrectly swapped with the feed line from the compressor, then the air bags will drop to bump stops over time as it tries to balance out your left and right sides over time. This happens because it is releasing air back to the feed line which is at a low pressure. A lot of DIY mechanics screw up reconnecting the air lines when they work on these cars.

[@S-T-E-V-E]

I nearly bought a used Range Rover once until I looked at the Service History and saw the frequent large bills! I Noped right outta there! 😂

[@volvo09]

Yeah! Some people would look at that and feel reassured that large items have been taken care of (especially if they want the vehicle and are all excited), but in reality it's just a non stop money pit.

[@S-T-E-V-E]

@@volvo09 It's the Car equivalent of a Boat! (Break Out Another Thousand! 😂)

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Same thing for me with a 928S. I took it in for a pre-purchase inspection, looked in the glove box, saw thousands in repairs ($650 for a starter - back in the 90s) and I noped-out. I eventually bought another one, decades later and had no issues with it, but it was an original owner car and was dirt cheap. Drove it for a year and sold it for a profit.

[@S-T-E-V-E]

@@OMGWTFLOLSMH This Range Rover was only 5 years old though! 😂 I can't understand why these Hugely Expensive vehicles can be sold with such bad reliability! They top the Unreliability Charts every year and to own one outside of warranty is financial suicide! That's why the residuals fall off a cliff!

[@kristophermcdonald1655]

I agree on the new ones but I have a partially restored 110 diesel that has been my daily driver for a year with zero problems other than it leaks oil and rain drips inside like all of them. You should consider a nicely sorted $40 to $60k defender and have fun kitting it out.

[@jaredtrp]

Watching these sorts of videos is like watching someone who keeps going back to their toxic ex and acting surprised when it causes a lot of drama and costs them a lot of money. 🤣

[@lightningcount123]

I had the adaptive dynamics fault on my 2012 full size. Was a frayed wire to the computer. Soldered her up better than factory and no issues. Luckily I had my timing chains done at 100k miles under factory warranty. Kept up with my scheduled maintenance and have had no issues 🤞 at 180k miles

[@cozysouth]

I love the looks of the Land Rover. I wish they would get together with Toyota and build one with the reliability of Toyota. I’d buy one.

[@steveb6386]

I used to work around the corner from an independent Jag/Landrover workshop. Beautiful place, nice waiting room, immaculate workshop etc...NEVER short of work. Enough said.

[@Ramble79]

Range Rovers are hard to resist. Even with all the documented issues and problems

[@davidellefson4556]

I could resist…easily

[@bernardowens1648]

​@David And Nicole Ellefson me too. I have never understood the attraction to sink all of your money into repairs.....

[@hughbarton5743]

They are certainly attractive, in their own fashion. But by the time they started to get popular in the USA I was already in the car business, and all the smart ladies and gentlemen I knew were telling everybody: " suspect quality, craptastic parts, comical lack of any reliable tech support by LR, idiotic prices....AVOID!" Then ,I ran a LR dealer service department for a brief time,and, if anything, they had been too kind.....I saw failures on these rolling dumpster fires that I literally never saw before, and even after retiring at 35+ years in the business never saw from other brands. Appalling! Nothing I would want my name on; a shameful product.

[@nomad-ridesmtb270]

4Runner>Range Rover/Land Rover

[@jaapaap123]

Hard to resist to laugh at?

[@pennise]

Having had past electrical issues with my 2010 Land Rover LR-4, mating the battery to the vehicle is important to solving some electrical problems. Don't just drop a new battery in one and expect to continue without problems. Next move - replace the alternator. Suspension is usually the $5200 computer - no bueno at all. Great ride, good power, nice finishes. Mine has the Ford motor, so I consider myself fortunate. I don't like the Range Rover styling. Your best bet is to rent a Cat and destroy it.

[@jerryc6497]

That is good of you to not sell it Tyler.

[@Lo_natilo_massages]

Very simple thing on RR and Jaguar : the repartitor/solenoids valves in the trunk. I don't know why nobody told you that this stupid thing is always the culprit.

[@burnzy3210]

My dear Americans, please stop calling Range Rovers "rovers", Rover is a different English car brand which made entirely different cars. - Sincerely, an Englishman

[@diogenes505]

But they are all POS

[@rodguilbeau113]

Tyler I bought a 2011 HSE Sport with a blown engine in December for $3K . Currently dropping in a Ford 351W, yes it's a headache but 70% done with the swap. 👍🏼

[@GrandMoffJoseph]

I am honestly amazed that Land Rover continues to sell any vehicles at all, given their now well documented reputation for 'death by 1000 repairs'.

[@BuckingHorse-Bull]

people buy them for the name not the reliability

[@Hardhands]

Thanks for the warning! I'm already out 18000 for a ford escape that ford did not fix after 3 attemps.Never buy a used po pos

[@jasonm3871]

Thanks for making this video. My wife regularly mentions wanting a Range Rover, and my answer is always that there's no way in hell I'd own one, and that our GX460 is just as capable to take us anywhere we want to go, but it also will get us home. I'll be sure to show her this!!

[@lear60man]

Wow. I guess Im in the minority after 4 Range Rovers, 20 years and a couple hundred thousand miles......never left stranded. Normal consumables and a few coolant leaks due to plastic pipes getting old. Im about 80% done with a restoration on a 95 Range Rover Classic. I fixed everything with a shop manual and a dedicated EAS tool (pre OBDII). 166,000 miles on the engine and it purrs like a kitten.

[@bluetyphoon2100]

My coworker learned this lesson the hard way. He bought a theft recovery 08 Land Rover Discovery thinking he got a deal at 6000$ but it needed a whole engine because it had a crack in the block. Chasis has 200k miles on it and the engine he replaced it with wasn't opened and cleaned with new seals and so now not even 10k miles later it needs head gaskets. He's almost 20 grand into a pile of garbage when he could have bought a nice one for the money. Hoovie is right.

[@tony66au]

L322 Rangies........... Ahhhyup, they are an "Enthusiasts" car. I've owned numerous Land Rovers, Series Landies and Ranger Rover Classics (Currently got 2) and making them whole is part of the fun but after the P38 (94 to 00-ish) they just got too hard. Chev conversions are common but the 215 cubic inch Buick/Rover V8 (3.5l) still has merit as well. My Current toy is as simple as it gets, Twin Carbies (Zenith/SU) on the 3.5 lt V8 is fairly solid but needs a high rise manifold, new cam and Holley Sniper Injection and honestly an Automatic to replace the 4 speed manual and they other stuff will break im sure..... Buuut Im an "Enthusiast" :-)

[@antonivezaj9085]

Check the cluster of braided wires underneath the front door sills. Those corrode over time and cause MAJOR headaches. Trust me. If theres a clog in your roof drains, they fill up those sills, gotta love the design LOL @hooviesgarage

[@bruceburns1672]

Landrover would be buying their components from the same pool of component suppliers so why are Range Rover components failing at an alarming rate .

[@Hubjeep]

You didn't learn about LR from Daddy Doug's extended warranty experience? :D

[@gstevens6948]

Daddy Doug? 🤷‍♂️

[@TheMainCore]

​@@gstevens6948yes. Are you new here?

[@nicholasvinen]

​@@gstevens6948Doug Demuro

[@christinesommerfeld9815]

@@gstevens6948 Doug Demuro

[@vincentpiombo]

I had a 2012 Range Rover Sport with 180,000 miles and towed my Airstream on a 5,000 mile trip with it! Believe it or not I didn’t have one issue with it the whole trip. Even took it on the Bonneville Salt Flats and let it rip! My vote would be to sell it to someone wanting to make a bad ass over landing rig out of it! Put a lift, light bar, roof rack and brush guard on it and it’s ready to go!

[@bobmcl2406]

Don't they say that one symptom of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results? Welcome to Hoovie's Garage....

[@scruffymeles6221]

Asylum

[@coryallen6980]

Welcome to the junkle! We've got fun and games! I've got a piece of shit range rover and I'm calling it names!

[@kadenthatchevdude8340]

Hoovie, first off, I appreciate the time you put in on your platforms to give the viewers such pleasant viewing lol. Second, I truly appreciate your honesty and not trying to resale the nightmare problematic vehicles, good soul! Third. I know you said you don't want to sell your land rover because of the problems, but I am VERY interested! The 3rd gen L322 is one of my dream vehicles. (The body anyways) please, reach out if your interested in letting it go and never dealing with any of its issues again, I'd absolutely love to take the battle over and finally have a L322. Hope to hear back, understandable if not. Appreciate it!

[@bg22757]

Surely you can find a better one?

[@kadenthatchevdude8340]

@Ben G yeah sure, but I want it for the body, I don't care for the drive train. I have other ideas so why not start with a good looking rig with issues?

[@bg22757]

@@kadenthatchevdude8340 fair enough, you're probably a mad man, and I like that.

[@jameswieler3295]

I think the issue you had was more the mileage rather than the age. We bought a 2012 full sized RR supercharged back in 2018 with 18K miles on it and it's been a great car. At 45K miles and it's still going strong. Also the timing chain thing was fixed for the 2012 model year. The 2013 and up are supposed to be even better. I'd buy another in a heart beat

[@ericfleetwood6744]

Some might say that it is far too soon to assess the durability of your vehicle. You bought it from someone who put 3K miles per year on the vehicle, and you have added about 6K miles per year for a total of only 45K in 11 years. There are plenty of Hoovie's and Car Wizard followers with 145K or 245K miles on a 2012 Toyota, Ford, or Honda product, with no tales of woe.

[@snoopdogie187]

I have a 2013 honda with about 3 times your RR mileage. Yeah not supercharged or special in anything, but I don't worry about it breaking, even when it gets too 200k miles. My point is to agree with ericfleetwood, your RR is a baby by mileage.

[@Rover200Power]

Mileage isn't the probem, he just bought one with hard to diagnose problems that the previous owner had dumped.

[@Tech-ez1qj]

Vehicle off amp draw test. You disconnect the pos battery terminal. You connect a multimeter and set to miliamps. Turn the car off and wait for all the computers to go to sleep. Amps should less than .40 amps. Lets say you have a 5 amp draw. Remove one fuse at a time and wait. When you find the circuit, you install the fuse and disconnect 1 computer at a time to isolate. So ask yourself which circuit won't be disconnected by pulling a fuse. It's the alternator. The alternator also spins when running, of course. So it can randomly have a short to ground internally. If the car sits and the battery goes dead. Don't jump the car and start it. Disconnect the alternator B+ cable. Then, connect the amp meter from the B+ cable to the alternator. Then, put a jump box on the battery. I bet you find your amp draw. I've had many alternators fail like that. I'm a 30 dealership technician.

[@lordwalker71]

Forgot he still owned this.

[@benjones1917]

I love my 1995 4.6 HSE Range Rover. I've completely rebuilt pretty much the whole thing, including the engine, and it's not too bad reliability wise now 👍👍👍

[@peterdevreter]

Even the gopro hates the bumpy ride 🤣

[@chir0pter]

Sorry Hoovie. I actually think coil conversions are generally bad ideas, just buy a coil car or fix the air suspension. And the RR air suspension is quite good. Did you ever check the ride height sensors? There should be 1 per corner, and they can wear out

[@philipmasie]

Everyone knows that every Range Rover is a nightmare, not telling us anything we don’t know. I’ve only seen one KZbinr (Waldo) actually succeed with a used Rover 😂

[@ciscokidfab7595]

Looking at a 2008 Range Rover HSE to flip but thank you for the advice and taking one for the team.

[@Arnie90]

Range Rovers = the ultimate money pit

[@Epotheros]

You've obviously never heard of boats or horses.

[@samholdsworth420]

​@@Epotheros we're talkin motor vehicles here son

[@Epotheros]

@@samholdsworth420 You should know you can get a V8 motor to power a boat. Perhaps you should have said an automobile.

[@marcbuchel4873]

Loool, ECD ... Sounds like some dysfunction ... You had me spit out my coffee laughing so hard 😂😂😂