MacBook Pro M4 HANDS-ON - Watch Before You Buy! (ft. Mac Mini & iMac)

[@Thetechchap]

Hey Chaps! Will you be buying a new MacBook?? (or Mini / iMac?)

[@ramonpena557]

@Thetechchap I'll hopefully be getting the new macbook

[@deanmeixner]

I ordered a specced out Air 2 days ago came to A$3599 (before the price drop), I cancelled that order, for an extra A$100 I got the MacBook Pro M4 with 24gb ram and 2tb ssd. Good deal I think.

[@agentcasey34]

sticking with my M3 MacBook Air- plenty fast - glad I bumped to 16gb ram, think that will be the cut off for new OS a few years from now.

[@Diablomeister1]

Mini with 512gb ssd

[@ChilledRaven]

Hell no...

[@brandon___styles]

Dear Tech YouToubers, Please stop complaining about the weight of the MacBook Pro. The weight serves a purpose for the internals. I don’t want Apple to revert back to form over function with its MacBook Pros.

[@someghosts]

The weight is a valid issue though. Just because the balance was swung too far in favour of form in the past doesn’t mean it’s in the right place today. Sucks that people have to go for a smaller screen just because of weight. I don’t see thermal issues yet, do you?

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@someghostsExcept it was way too far with the 2016 - 2019 MacBook Pros. The things needed to be heavily undervolted to avoid heavy thermal throttling, the port selection was horrible, and the keyboard was bad and unreliable. Just get a MacBook Air if you're that weight conscious.

[@silliesttitan7668]

Yeah, how I see it is if you want design, get an air. If you want specs and performance, get a pro.

[@someghosts]

@ it’s a spectrum though I guess. You could always squeeze out another few points of thermal headroom, more sturdiness and more battery life if you made the thing 5kg and 5cms thick, but then it would be probably even be a bad product / trade off for you at that point

[@no1g8tor08]

I got a LG Gram 16” ultra 7 loaded. Lighter than an Air and 32gb and 2tb SSD for $1000. I also have a MacBook Air M3 and the Lg is frankly better. So can’t say I’m on one side or the other. I have both and my air is seeing less and less time.

[@wisdomyaw03]

5:23 Isn’t it ironic that after Apple has moved on from chasing thinness over functionality and embraced function over form, you hear from some people complaining about that and desire they(Apple) go back to thinness again? So that they(Tom) can complain about thermal throttling and overheating, etc? What’s wrong with you guys? It’s like you don’t know what you want. Or is just to have something to always complain about? I don’t get it! Anyway, if it’s thinness you want, rumors have it that it’s in the roadmap, OK?

[@cameronbosch1213]

Exactly. I'd take that weight for better thermals and battery life. I don't like Macs, but I have nothing to complain about that battery life.

[@dodo19923]

It's all about content. I'm surprised no one has complained they only put in a 12mp camera and not a 13 cause 13 is 1 better than 12 so it's clearly a failure of a device. Personally i'd rather have a heavier machine that stays cool but that's just me i guess lol.

[@MattOatesUK]

@@cameronbosch1213 and then you look at the iPad Pro and realise its mostly tosh they could make an extremely thin laptop with great battery life and thermals... The just need to run the macOS UI, the actual guts of iOS is identical these days now everything is on ARM.

[@nickd7935]

True, this design is so good *because* it’s not trying to be unnecessarily thin.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@MattOatesUK The problem is that the iPad Pro has significantly less ports and battery life; it's not just the OS that is worse!

[@AustinCameron]

Meanwhile they claim the trade in value of a 128gb / 2tb / m3 max macbook pro is only worth $1600, while the M4 matching specs are nearly $6k lol

[@waderobinson4122]

seriously, why are they like this? my $2k mac mini is only worth $560... not even 30 percent.

[@stringfellowhawk5361]

buy used, never new

[@SLTX757]

I mean obviously they aren’t going to give you anywhere near what it’s worth, it’s always best to sell it independently

[@dankmemes3153]

I hate to break it to you but RAM modules and SSDs are pennies on the dollar for companies due to economies of scale. They charged and YOU PAID to fill their bottom dollar quota. The price they estimate is 100% correct.

[@ballooneyjr4294]

They’re giving me $390 for my m1 mbp from 2020 that was like 1100 so I’m happy with that tbh

[@badfishgood]

RIP space gray

[@lukeskirenko]

Damn. That was my preferred best compromise between not being too reflective and not showing scratches too badly.

[@Khemani_RL]

@@lukeskirenko Same!😢

[@jpracing893]

Same, it was the best middle ground for being a bit darker but not showing loads of finger prints like space black.

[@TopFindsReviews]

i love my space grey

[@Thetechchap]

F

[@KeithWallsVocals-od5ry]

You’re one of the only KZbinrs that discuss “futureproofing.” I’ve kept my 2017 iMac Pro for 7 years now, and always like to get the high end new model and keep it for a long time. What I really want is an M4 Studio Max, but we’ll have to wait another 8 months or so for it. I may purchase an M4 MBP laptop even though I don’t want or need a laptop.

[@jambononi]

I say this all the time, if you're surviving on an intel Mac of any quality or price the M1 pro will be more than enough for you. The M1 was such an astronomical leap compared to previous gen stuff that if you're surviving with your workloads now the M1 will be enough. You guarantee you don't need the studio version.... Unless you're literally going to start 3d rendering or something which I can't imagine you're doing on the 2017 Mac?

[@KeithWallsVocals-od5ry]

@@jambononi actually, I want to start doing video editing, which is very difficult on the 2017 iMac Pro. I do, however, have a very powerful eGPU that gives me incredible 3D performance for such an old machine.

[@FaizalAkhmadLemans]

Gurman reported that the Mac Studio was not on the schedule of Apple releases for 2024. He claimed it won't appear until mid-2025. Gurman reiterated this in June when he reported that the Mac released schedule had not changed and the M4 Mac Studio is not expected until the second half of 2025

[@davidkennethnoronha1622]

Now that they have gotten rid of the base 8GB Ram configuration, it’s about time they chuck the 256GB SSD variant as well. 512 should be the only base storage.

[@Pythonzzz]

100%

[@kekuleh1]

Yeah. For Pro at least. 256GB for base Air is still acceptable.

[@christophestanic]

It will take another year for this to happen!

[@jaimerivera7717]

The M4 Macbook Pro starts at 512gb so did the M3

[@Pythonzzz]

@@kekuleh1 even for the Air I don’t think 256GB is enough for a premium laptop in 2024/2025. They’re going to turn into a ewaste problem since the storage will become a limitation before the rest of the components.

[@omersubasi7372]

With M4 Pro chip (14" starting at $1999) you now get 24GB memory and 12 core CPU -- better than earlier years... This year Apple really wants people to update :)

[@paramshah6376]

My first mac, m4pro MacBook Pro,16”. Super excited

[@djmphoto]

Preordered a M4Max. I want something I won't have to upgrade for about 10 years. I'm one of those people still rocking an intel MacBook pro, so this was a worthy upgrade since I've owned this machine for over a decade.

[@jelinasantos4284]

same thoughts!

[@D818FX]

You were exactly the target market. Apple made sure to mention how far off the new one is from the Intel ones.

[@Infuzzion]

I did the same 😁

[@hyksos2]

me: Looking at my 2009 Mac Pro ... I have a dual cpu 6 core + HT 3.06Ghz with 32GB of ram, so even with a massive 12 core and 24 thread, the base M4 is 4 time more performant in multi thread .... and 7 time in single thread .... I think it's time for an upgrade lol

[@nickd7935]

I doubt it will last 10. It will only get software updates for at most 7 years. Plus single core performance and RAM capacity are the largest deciding factors for longevity. If you upgraded to 36 or higher then RAM wouldn’t be an issue, but single core performance is the same as the base M4.

[@Tolg]

I have a 24GB M2 MacBook Pro 13 with the discontinued, touch bar. While I definitely want to upgrade because of the better performance and display quality, I really don’t want to give up my touch bar, which I absolutely love. And ironically, more and more applications, including the latest macOS updates take really good advantage of.

[@DariuszD]

exactly why I postphoned replacement for so long.. shame they discontinued touchbar!

[@sachafievet3131]

Going from 8gb ram to 16gb is not a free upgrade, it's barely keeping up with industry standards. Especially since ram and nand memory is not expensive

[@Thetechchap]

Well in the world of Apple products, we're getting a £200 discount a 'recommended spec' of MacBook. You're right though, most windows rivals are 16 + 512 already

[@LionelGeek]

My wife just bought a 14" MacBook Pro M3 Pro config last year soon after those machines came out. She loves it, and it has worked flawlessly, so she won't be upgrading. But was surprised to see Best Buy here in the US offering almost $1,500 for the trade-in. Impressive that MacBook Pros hold their value so well!

[@martinsurovy427]

Well It depends. I´ve bought Mac Studio as it was released in august 2022 (base model, M1 Pro,16GB RAM, 512GB storage). At that time it (inlcuding taxes) it cost 2300 EUR. Just for fun, I´ve checked current trade in value - and it was 585 EUR (authorized Apple seller)! So basically zero resell value - I rather use it until it falls apart, than sell it with such reduction.

[@maryalands]

@@martinsurovy427or sell it in marketplace in my country people are selling that model for at least 1500 euros

[@EmrahDemirag]

I am super excited to switch from 16 inch 2019 intel to 14 inch m4 pro max. Finally it's happening.

[@cowslaw]

Same!! Except from a 13-inch from 2016 haha, I’ve been way overdue and I’m so excited!

[@EmrahDemirag]

​@@cowslaw I think we'll see a huge difference lol. Even though my 2019 MP has 64GB of RAM, it runs quite slowly when I'm editing 4K videos or screen sharing on Zoom calls.

[@kabir2924]

I’m upgrading from my 13 inch 2019 intel 8GB ram to M4 pro 16 inch super excited

[@EmrahDemirag]

@@kabir2924 you’ll be shocked I believe:))

[@Vijaythalapathy28]

@@kabir2924what spec are you going for

[@Pythonzzz]

This seems like a really nice spec bump for the MBP, and I’m happy to see they FINALLY bumped the base RAM to 16GB on both the MBP and the MacBook Air. That has been years overdue. I think this will be the year we upgrade my wife’s 2019 Intel MBP for photo editing. The faster processor, better battery life, and better screen will definitely be appreciated.

[@TheJonHolstein]

The clear recommendation is to add the extra for at least the m4 pro, given it comes with twice the number of performance cores, and 24GB RAM, for a relatively pretty small proce difference.

[@Thetechchap]

Yep agreed 👍

[@khoifoto]

I pre-ordered 16” M4 Max 128GB RAM and 2TB storage. Perfect replacement for my mac studio since I’m traveling and working pretty soon.

[@Thetechchap]

Very nice!

[@danielpicon8012]

Rocking a 2012 MacBook Pro, after 12 years decided this year it’s time for a refresh 🎉🎉

[@wasgeht2409]

I have a question and would be very grateful if you could help me. I'm currently thinking about buying the new MacBook Pro M4 chip. There are two configurations in play. 1) M4 Pro 14Core CPU, 20 Core GPU and 48 GB RAM. 2) M4 Max with 14-core CPU, 32-core GPU and 36 GB RAM. I'm not a video editor or anything like that. Would rather prioritize it for training AI and using LLMs. The 2nd option is approx. 400 euros more expensive. What do you say? Is the second option with less RAM but more cores much better in LLM and training AI code in Python ? THANK YOU

[@jakejoyride]

max is better because of memory bandwidth but seriously get more memory with max for llmv

[@Thetechchap]

That's a tough one. The Max is primary a GPU-boost. I'd probably opt for more memory

[@grumpyrocker]

My M1 Macbook Pro is still absolutely flying. I can't imagine needing to replace it any time soon. I still might buy a new Mini though, just because.

[@yourbuddygriffin]

It worth waiting. I was going to buy M3 pro version this year, somehow I thought just wait to see how M4 line up is . Definitely gonna buy M4 pro 14 version. Pretty good deal with24gb ram!

[@ongjanette]

Good for you!!! I was also waiting for the upgraded iMacs for the longest time - I have been using an Intel that will only go as far as MacOS Catalina 😕 but sometimes in March the LED gave out😢 I had to buy the M3 iMac as a replacement pronto. Pity it couldn't last long enough for me to get my hands on the M4... I would have opted for the mini with the new Asus ProArt 27" 5K monitor. 😢 Oh well, I'm sure my spec'd up M3 will see several years action , if I don't get "new tech envy" get in the way. 😅

[@indiePrad]

M5 better

[@yourbuddygriffin]

@@indiePrad hah hah I was thinking to wait until probably M10 coming 😆

[@nignatovskiy9901]

Would you think it’s worth upgrading from a 16gb memory m2 to m4?

[@Thetechchap]

probably not

[@samueljohnson5423]

Which monitors (4K+ and 27 inches) work best with the Mac Mini? A good video on that would be awesome.

[@SoftwareManiacLSM]

I like your presentation style. Subscribed.

[@Thetechchap]

Thank you!

[@spadaacca]

I literally have an M1, I do regular creative, video, and graphics-intensive work and have never had issues!

[@EquinoxGate]

I don’t care if the 16” is heavier. Will the fan noise be a problem?

[@Thetechchap]

It's not any heavier, same size/dimensions as before. I'm hoping fan noise might be improved if the new chip is more efficient (and perhaps runs cooler?). Will test!

[@omersubasi7372]

I always use the trackpad. Way better than the mouse!

[@CandyMan2001]

The dilemma for me is if it's worth uploading to the M4 Pro, but then if I get the M4 Pro I'd want to spend the extra and go for the proper 20 core GPU version and same CPU as the Max. I don't know if the M4 Pro 20 core GPU variant is really worth the extra £600.

[@ASM_31]

So i’m really excited about this launch with the new Macbook’s. I currently have an 11” Macbook Air 2015 and am looking to upgrade. I was thinking of getting the M4 Pro but after watching this video i’m thinking to just get the M4 base model again like my initial thoughts. What would you suggest?

[@DiabloMatrix968]

The Mac mini with m4 pro looks to be the most exciting product to me , I won't be getting a new desktop or upgrading my laptop though, since I'm happy with my M3 Max MacBook Pro

[@mandhirsidhu]

Costco have £80 off the new M4's !!! I am getting the M4 pro 14" MBP Pro. No customisation as not from Apple store... but I actually like the gloss screen. Popping colours!

[@kompassorpigo7600]

Totally agreed on the weight. Newer MacBooks are all unnecessarily heavy, especially the Pros.

[@amusicaldream]

Which camera and microphone did you use for this video? The quality is very good!

[@Hugo97HD]

I just ordered mine. Decided to go for the standard screen one. I just don’t work outdoors or in public spaces that often. Not worth the price at least for me!

[@Konstantinos_A]

Even that you don’t need that. Already the normal screen size has extremely low reflection and also the nano display washes out colours

[@Hugo97HD]

@@Konstantinos_A agree with that too, I’ve seen videos of how it looks in the m4 iPads and I’m not totally convinced.

[@JacksonWelch]

I bought the M4 Max over an upgrade for my M1 Pro 2021. I do really large LLMs, Docker, coding you name it. 16Gb just isnt enough lol

[@Fordance100]

You need at least 64 or 128 GB RAM.

[@The_One_444]

I preordered the M4M MacBook 14in, even though it's my first Mac laptop and totally overkill for just writing, surfing the web, and watching movies. But hey, I want it.

[@nickd7935]

I legitimately implore you to reconsider and get an M4 or M4 Pro at most. The M4 Max chips have much much worse battery life than the base and Pro chip.

[@nickd7935]

And everything you listed is impacted by single core performance which is exactly the same between all of the laptops. The only reason to get a Max chip is if you run fluid dynamics simulations in a research lab or you want to play Cyberpunk at ultra settings

[@cagada]

@@nickd7935I don’t have a laptop and I’m thinking of getting the base model M4 MacBook Pro. Will be using it mainly for school, watching movies/youtube, surfing web, maybe editing some vids and photos nothing too crazy. Is the base M4 MacBook Pro a good choice? Originally I wanted to get the M3 Pro MacBook Pro because the base only had 8 gigs but now with the new M4 with 16 gigs I feel like I’m at a good spot.

[@celcom989]

@@nickd7935I want to get the m3 pro because it’s so cheap right now. Is the m4 pro a lot better to cough up more cash? I video edit, have millions of tabs open, and photo edit

[@DAXimusTT]

Alas, I've waiting until M4 to dive into the the macbook world. I think the base model is great value but I think the sweet spot this year is the base M4 Pro with 24gb RAM and added performance cores.

[@JustineCooksVegan]

Thanks for the review! Do you think the MacBook m4 pro chip with 14 cpu/20 gpu with 48 gb of ram is worth getting over an m3 max chip with 14/30 & 36 ram for video editing? I have an m3 max chip I just got but not sure if extra GPU or ram is better for long form video editing. Thank you! ☺️

[@jakejoyride]

yes

[@JustineCooksVegan]

@ yes ram is better over GPU? 🙏🏼

[@Thetechchap]

That's a great question - and I'm really not sure to be honest, but I would probably go with the m4 pro / 48gb.

[@AutoMotivate]

0:55 wouldn’t a screen film do the same exact thing for much cheaper?

[@Thetechchap]

Potentially! Although I imagine the 'micro-etching' is more effective / offers better quality than a film on top

[@edycafe]

Thanks for sharing your review! I have a MacBook Pro 16GB memory, 8 core (4performance and 4 efficiency)14” M1 1Tb 2020. I edit videos using FCP, Blender and photogrammetry with my drones images. I want to upgrade, but can’t decide. Which one do you recommend between MacBook Pro M3 max or M4 pro ? I’ll appreciate your advice! Thanks 😊

[@or9118]

10:53 the problem with the Magic Mouse is not the charging situation but rather the ergonomics, it’s so flat and and uncomfortable

[@dannywinget]

Awesome breakdown!

[@Thetechchap]

Cheers Danny!

[@Kinetica_tm]

So what do you recommend for a graphic designer and video editor ?

[@sergiosanchez2012]

Anything, you can design and edit in your phone or on an iPad now. Get whatever makes you happy and doesn’t put you in debt.

[@Kinetica_tm]

@ im a Design for like 10 years now and use windows. I can’t design on a phone or ipad, that does make no sense. Im thinking for a MacBook but i don’t understand how ram and cpu works on those things that why i asked what would people recommend

[@Thetechchap]

If you can stretch your budget to 2k, a 14" m4 Pro

[@Kinetica_tm]

@ i can do that. I can even go for pro max but i dont want to buy something that i wont use. Mainly i use adobe illustrator and Figma

[@miquelgine]

which color to go? Silver or space black

[@Thetechchap]

I prefer Space Black

[@AkimboFennec]

Tell me about the brightness of these new MacBooks. When you use it indoors, does it get bright enough ?

[@Thetechchap]

absolutely! very bright

[@gh0stamv]

Would you recommend the 16" model over the 14" version for someone using it for college?

[@eiskalterorangensaft]

i bought a m4 max only for youtube/twitch and playing wow. im so happy

[@jermainedwasin8507]

Great video, love the recommendations! Best out there on KZbin.

[@Thetechchap]

thank you!

[@jpracing893]

Glad apple are finally increasing the base RAM 16GB is like the bare minimum. These M4 Macbook's are a pretty good upgrade even from something like an M1 Series. I'm gonna hold out for the redesign and when they bring OLED to them, think 2025 or 2026. I've got an M2 Pro 16" and it still feels as fast as the day I got it. Never once thought this needs to be faster, but as is technology it always moves forward.

[@BlackThunderRC]

Ordered the 16 Mbp M1 Max 64GB memory version during the launch event. Still fast enough for everything I need it to do. Including editing 4k 60 ProRes video. Apple made the original M1 chips so good hardly anyone wants or needs to upgrade.

[@xfghffhfg]

Keep telling that to yourself :)

[@videofrat3115]

I have a request for your future videos. I am planning to upgrade to M4 14 inch and my main priority will be battery life because i am always on the go (rarely use demanding tasks). Can you please do a real world battery life comparison between the base M4, and the binned M4 pro, and the full M4 pro? Depending on this real world battery i will do my purchase. If there is no significant hit on battery life i will go with the higher models but if battery takes a hit i will keep the base one.

[@maxoverdrive8286]

Yeah, with the M4 pro chip laptop or the mini you get thunderbolt five ports also which is a big upgrade But upgrade price on the mini for the M4 pro is a bit steep I have a MacBook Pro M1 16 inch so-only thing I would consider would be iPad Pro M4 13”

[@onionpeeler2023]

Which MacBook to get for gaming? Is the max chip not necessary?

[@xfghffhfg]

it's not good for gaming. yet

[@onionpeeler2023]

@@xfghffhfg even with the M4 Max?

[@Thetechchap]

it's fast enough for games, but there just isn't the same game library compared to a windows pc

[@drakata27]

I finally upgraded my M1 Air to the MBP M4. These frauds got me

[@MikeBlissett]

Great video! I'm tempted to upgrade from my M1 16" MBP to a smaller 14" M4 Pro, as it'd be more portable. I will wait until they arrive in the Apple Store in London though, so I can take a look at one first. LA? I must admit I'm a little bit jealous!

[@Thetechchap]

Cheers! Yeah definitely have a play/hold side-by-side in store, it's the only way you'll really be sure

[@zoezebra4013]

"If you are still on Intel with Macbook Pro what are you doing with your life" LOOL I'm on Macbook pro 2015 and I'm still impressed what it can do, despite its age. Scared to move to Silicon! But been waiting for M4 Max to make the biggest jump I can - and am disappointed as M4 Pro is too close to be ignored! just those memory limits, darn it

[@Thetechchap]

Do it! It's night and day

[@zakiradi450]

What would you consider between 14 Pro Model Vs Mini? Around $400 difference between the two for that screen and portability

[@RaviTejaCheekati]

I recently purchased an M3 Air 16/512 for $1700, but it’s now on sale for $1500. 😢

[@nickd7935]

If it’s within 2 weeks of purchase you can call Apple and ask for the difference to be credited to you

[@tipoomaster]

Man can they not even drop a new sensor in the Magic Mouse, it's 11 years old and tested worse than standard cheap mice on Rtings 5 years ago. The port location is the least worst thing about the Magic Mouse.

[@Thetechchap]

it's like the new AirPods Max.. very underwhelming update

[@sp3lllz]

I preordered that base model mini honestly I’m just happy that base models of apples devices can be the recommended option now explaining the caveat of upgrading the ram to family and friends before this always just got confusing for a lot of them as they’re not techy. Honestly though even if M4 mac book airs are coming next year those M2 and M4 MacBooks are now looking a lot more attractive especially since a lot of places sell them on discount

[@pixelinch2729]

Been waiting for and just ordered Mac Mini M4 chip with the 24GB unified memory 😃

[@PandaMoniumHUN]

The Mac Mini is really tempting, even though I've got a beefy desktop.

[@clairewilliams9416]

I’m currently trying to work out if I can justify the price of MacBook Pro max, I do do a lot of creative stuff so I do think the max would be best and I do have the money but IDK that’s a lot of money

[@davids1816]

I bought one of the M3 Pro and found the performance middling at best. I do not expect this for $2000. with a Wacom tablet hooked to it for use in my classroom, it's ability to mirror to a TV in my classroom it's CRIPPLED. I keep a Mac around because my students have iPads and it's very useful for turning in video projects with AirDrop... but it's my last Mac. I'm done buying underpowered but pretty hardware.

[@farishanafiah8461]

Definitely interested in the new M4 Mac Mini. It might need some time to get used to a taller mini PC, but the price definitely drew my interest. I could buy an M4 Mac Mini 16/512 and a NexDock or UPERFECT lapdock, and they're still almost half the price of what I'd pay for the M4 MacBook Pro 14 with the same 16/512 trim.

[@dca374]

Really want to buy a Mac mini m4 Pro. Mainly want the extra gpu for some games! Yes Macs aren't for gaming, but it's getting there. Will hold off for reviews.

[@Jonathantuba]

It is great the base model MacBook Pro now has increased RAM and the extra port. Those were the two reasons for me to buying the M3 Pro of previous generation. Mind you I don't think there is any need to upgrade if you own an M1, M2 or M3 - they are all incredible!

[@JonathanJK]

To justify the 16”. They should throw in an extra thunderbolt port. The larger body should allow for more connectivity.

[@xfghffhfg]

it allows more screen

[@lakeoffm]

I’ve always been wondering why the biggest complaint about the Magic Mouse is the charging system and not the fact it’s unusable for games, specifically shooters or anything where you want both the right and left buttons?

[@xfghffhfg]

no one plays on mac

[@adibayer_]

Is it that hard for Apple to move charging port of their mouse from bottom to front side?

[@bluesenthused7244]

m4 or m4 pro? can't decide... going to be doing alot of coding and machiene learning work in a masters course soon... Also working for a tech company which requires data analytics and other moderately intensive workload stuff

[@lalaeuro]

Hi Mr Tech Chappie. Would you recommend the basic 14" M4 Macbook Pro 16gb 512gb over a 2021 16" M1 Max 32gb 1TB...? Going to be used 30% of the time for video editing on Da Vinci, and just basics the rest of the time. Asking as about to buy the 16" (£1500) and just hesitating, but cannot afford higher spec M4. Cheers ;-0)

[@Thetechchap]

Ooh that's tough. Anyway you could push your budget by 400 to a M4 Pro 14"?

[@lalaeuro]

@@Thetechchap Hi, thanks for the reply Mr TC. I shall investigate further! Cheers ;-0)

[@sebulban]

The additional TB port on the 14" model has been there on the MAX models since M1 MAX. Considering the TB5 bandwidth, could they now re-implement the external graphics that worked quite well with the intel models? 3 times the bandwidth compared to TB3/4 might make a difference

[@Darragh1]

These reviews are SOOOOOOOOO much better an easier to listen to and more concise than other bloggers and I'm on 42 seconds in. If I hear..... "So thennnnn guysssss......." and "what's inside of it" in Matt talks in that Mickey Mouse voice one more time :D Nice job Tech Chap! :)

[@Thetechchap]

Thank you! I try to be concise, but also give some of my own thoughts along the way

[@bryanpascual3543]

Im keeping my M1 pro mbp until M5 pro comes out

[@jamesbester85]

My issue with the Magic Mouse isn't so much the dumb charging solution (it's very annoying), but it's more the fact that macOS only lets you know it's almost flat when it drops to 2%! Which, if you're right in the middle of working and you CAN'T just stop for 5 minutes and get a drink, means you're pretty much playing chicken with the battery and praying it'll last a little longer.

[@andyH_England]

Get into a charging habit, say at the end of each week, where you charge it fully. Problem solved.

[@dabdoube92]

Unpopular opinion here : The increase of RAM would likely be reserved to keep AI always ready with high responsiveness. Meaning the available user RAM would be significantly less than the full RAM amount.

[@Thetechchap]

I'm sure that's true. But most of the time you're probably not actively using the AI

[@S.W.Bestwriter]

Great video! I'm a writer and have yet to buy a laptop. I only use Word and don't care about all the bells and whistles. But I do like a nice screen, though. :) What would you recommend?

[@Thetechchap]

M2 MacBook Air for 999 :)

[@MarkTrudgeonRulez]

Still got my M1 Pro and it works fine. Wish I had 32Gb of RAM instead of the 16Gb. That is the only reason I would upgrade but will wait and see!

[@danyo6938]

Does the screen have temporal dithering? 😵‍💫

[@julians7268]

The AI better tell me it loves me and talk really dirty for over $7,000!

[@tonyburzio4107]

If you like, or you could get some work done. Up to you.

[@julians7268]

@tonyburzio4107 you're no fun Tony.

[@PSy84]

you can have that AI in app and configure it

[@julians7268]

@@PSy84 for $7k you could probably have that AI installed into a sex doll.

[@julians7268]

@@PSy84 for almost $8,000 you could probably have that AI installed into a sex doll.

[@Alster763]

Magic mouse is a slick clean design, but it lacks ergonomics and charging while in use. I think you could do a lot better with any other mouse out there Logitech offers some nice options.

[@GENERATOR91]

i have a macbook pro m3 since 4 motnhs now, my biggest fear is , what happened if ssd dies in the future , can i replace it ?

[@akin242002]

The M4 Pro MacBook Pro 14-inch is the better value. Better Thunderbolt ports, better CPU, and better iGPU with 24 GB of RAM and 1 TB of storage. It may seem expensive at $2,200 USD, but it is worth it for professional engineers/developers/creators. Especially if you are currently using the M1 MacBook Pro or earlier non-M chip MacBooks. No need to change if someone has the M2/M3 Pro MacBook Pro and the M2/M3 Max. The lower tier M4 MacBook Pro is better for those transitioning from Windows or dealing with financial issues currently.

[@ballooneyjr4294]

lol what?? The m4 base is fine

[@Jeorgy92]

Or for those of us that dont use those super taxing editing or coding apps

[@akin242002]

@@Jeorgy92 If your workload is light, I wouldn't even look at a new M4 Pro Macbook. You can do light work with the M3 Air or a refurbished M2 Macbook Pro 14-inch.

[@appstratum9747]

The M4 Mac mini at £599 looks phenomenal. I'm not a huge fan of Apple making the mini smaller and applying engineering resources to keeping the thing cool under load because of that. I live in a really hot country and when it comes to cooling I believe that taking a belt-and-braces approach always pays. It's not just about venting. It's about space, too. And it seems to me that this isn't the first time that Apple has ignored physical and the fluid dynamics of air and heat transfer when "making it smaller" purely for marketing purposes. The M3 MacBook Air at £999 is lovely and the M4 MacBook Pro at $1599 looks excellent on paper. All are of interest to me.

[@xfghffhfg]

you just make stuff up, you have no idea about the cooling needed for such a device and whether there will be any thermal throttling under use (not benchmarking, that means nothing) the thiner, the lighter the better.

[@joesalyers]

I have a M1 max 16 inch that will be going on the market as soon as I see test results from reviewer. I want a M4 Max the 4 extra performance cores compared to the M1 Max is perfect for live audio production where you need as many cores as possible to run channels and plugins live. Hopefully Apple UPDATES Mainstage! It hasn't seen an update for a long time now and a ton of bands use it as their live audio mixer with audio interfaces. Fingers crosses M4 is as good as it looks!!! Cheers!

[@shaun1900]

Macbook Pro is as ever the killer device and in Australia $400 cheaper than I paid for my M1 Pro in 2021 - and cheaper than equivalent windows devices - who would have thought.

[@andyH_England]

Apple is not resting on its laurels. The competition has intensified, and Apple is responding accordingly. In the UK, prices have been lowered, making Macs more competitive than many of the new Intel machines. Additionally, they are far ahead of the Snapdragon X Elite, which makes that product nearly irrelevant.

[@shaun1900]

@@andyH_England@andyH_England Intel laptops are now more expensive than Macbooks - XPS and Zenbook S as examples in 14" guise.

[@r.r.richie9423]

My M1 14" supports 2 external displays and has the 3rd USB-C port... so it's not new, they just brought it back...

[@MRterdow]

Hello I have a question for everyone who sees this comment. Im in school right now and Im planing on becoming a programmer (already coding) and I want to buy the m4 max should I?

[@theanimaster]

Thunderbolt 5 is also needed for current external SSD’s like the Samsung T9 drive, in order to make use of the advertised speeds of those drives. I just pre-ordered one for my son as an early graduation/christmas/birthday gift… he’s definitely earned it!

[@Thetechchap]

Good point!

[@viszlaymark]

I loved the design of the mouse but changed to the touchpad. I love this more

[@davids1816]

A further complaint is that when hooked to my dual-4k screen I can either run the desktop at the same resolution as a 34 inch widescreen where everything is slightly blurry OR I can run it at the full dual-4k but without any ability to boost up the size of things so they aren't microscopic. I was told at the apple store to "buy the apple display"

[@minhducnguyenha6456]

does the base Macbook Pro M4 have dual fan cooling system?

[@radicalbyte]

We need benchmarks ASAP: I'd like to see multi-threaded compile time (C/C++/Rust/C#/Golang/Java), inference in various open models and fine tuning. Benchmarked against an optimised computer with an 4090. I fully expect the M4 Max with 64GB ram to outperform the 4090.

[@latinreuben]

If he recommends base m4, would he recommend more m3pro before base m4? I have m3pro thinking of returning for base m4 but now im impressed with m4pro

[@keithmccann6601]

why, why, why don't apple make a high quality media keyboard with intgrated trackpad to use with the new Mac-Mini...? - then you could pop your mini under your TV and you've got a top media centre for movies and music and internet browsing and even working all from your sofa...? - seems like a no brainer to me - Apple must have thought of this idea and choose not to do it but why not...?

[@tlielthuddab9693]

Thanks, but no thanks. Hoping the new Arm computers from other manufacturers are going to be a bit more open. Only the mini looks like it might be a good deal (macbook air if you want a laptop), but no; the Apple tax is too high for me...

[@farazaliahmad3257]

Price of M4 macbook in India is very high. The base macbook pro 14 inch costs around 2000 USD and for the 16 inch it goes around 3000 USD 💀

[@farazaliahmad3257]

According to me the best value for money mac is mac mini m4 which costs around 700 USD.

[@PH61a]

Just pre-ordered my Mini M4 Pro and Studio Display.

[@Thetechchap]

Very nice! Still frustrating how expensive the Display is

[@EastMontana1]

Always great to watch your videos. 👍

[@Thetechchap]

I appreciate that!