MAG X670E TOMAHAWK : No, no, no.

[@Je-kg8up]

I have used this motherboard with a 7800x3D for about 3 months now and not had any noteworthy issues. It has been solid while running memory @6400MT 1:1 with 1.2v SOC voltage.

[@Kamehaiku]

Thats what im currently building right now. Mahalo

[@thedarkangelpt]

6400 MT with 1:1? wasnt 6000MT max for 1:1?

[@Je-kg8up]

Not since AGESA/BIOS updates.@@thedarkangelpt

[@vinny2shots]

what ram sticks did you use? im trying to find the best ram that utilizes expo. im hearing that it doesnt boot with intel compatible sticks?

[@Je-kg8up]

I'm using an XMP kit so I can't make recommendations on that, but any higher speed low CAS latency kit should be be Hynix m or a die and do well once MB is updated.@@vinny2shots

[@baldknobby]

The x1 slot is perfect for a sound card. The x16-4 is perfect for a 10gb ethernet card. Those slots ARE useful.

[@finneogan]

Absolutely. A second fully powered x16 slot on the other hand? Am I missing something or isn't dual GPU practically obsolete?

[@Shadowangel09]

​@@finneoganI've read that it can be good for certain production workloads but not for gaming unless a game is built to use 2(which 99% aren't). Certain rendering programs seem to get a massive boost from dual gpu set ups

[@arghyaprotimhalder5592]

​@@finneogandual GTX 1080ti was legendary still is but Mostly not now . However if it's a workstation yeah makes sense put three w7800 there

[@JGComments]

Not to match a capture card, or 2 more USB-C ports if you need them.

[@DejaVuJT]

Absolutely it is. I have my AE-7 plugged into that slot, and its the only slot that would fit it after I plugged in the graphics card. So it is VERY useful.

[@finneogan]

While there are several points I disagree on because of my use case (4 M2 slots is great and this is practically the only not completely overpriced board that has 4 gen5/gen4 ones, the missing fourth heatsink doesn't bother me much, nor does the absence of dual GPU-PCie - oh, and this also seems to be the only AM5 board with a competent digital out), I loved how fairly you covered all of this, in detail, with knowledge, experience and passion.

[@alb.1911]

I don't agree with this negative review, the Motherboard has the same features of the other brands at the same price + the S/PDIF audio output that I definitively need and is present only on 400$+ MB from other brands.

[@metabang03]

Says he don't know why there's the extra 2 pcie ports. The reason. Pcie wifi card and pcie sound card. Onboard wifi blows dick and onboard sound blows a really nasty dick. Onboard sound makes games sound so damn retro, it's like having the sound from Duke nukes. Do not skip on ur wifi card even with onboard wifi, and DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT SKIP OUT on a dedicated sound card. Even if you use a dac for audio, you absolutely want something like the AE-9 to feed your dac with very high quality sound. You'll hear them footsteps much better and high fidelity of high quality music as well. Even youtube sounds better. And no hiss whatsoever

[@alb.1911]

@@metabang03 it’s exactly what I have, a 4 chassis HiFi DAC from Musical Fidelity connected using the SPDIF output.

[@MkFilipe2]

​@@metabang03 What the hell, you ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT buy a soundcard to feed a External DAC. With a digital out from the motherboard to the DAC (e.g., via USB, optical, or coaxial) you're just passing the data to the DAC. Also you between a soundcard and an External DAC, you should choose a External DAC it avoids internal PC electrical noise, providing cleaner audio quality than a soundcard. Don't make people waste money.

[@lexwaldez]

I got this board on sale for $163 on a Black Friday sale. Does that needs caps? Def not. I'm running this with a 9800X3D, 64GB G.Skill EXPO RAM (board got default timings right off the bat), a 7800XT GPU, and a 4TB WD Black SN850X NVMe drive... I'm thinking of adding another NVMe drive... maybe a 4TB Teamgroup or SIlicon Power NVMe for backups and a scratch drive. Flashing the BIOS before installing the CPU was a breeze. For the price I'm super happy with the board. No way in hell I'm paying $250-400 for some of the features and VRM I got here.

[@vrana44]

Dude this is a super solid mb for the price don’t overclock and go for a good x3d processor untill the last am5 processor is released go for that then and you are future proof over 10years with pcie5 on ssd and pcie. Also has 2 more fan connectors than the similar tuf gaming fo e. Very solid mb dont listen only to youtubers trust

[@Laurentschoice]

Very good Mobo... It if was in a vaccum.. and priced lower. :)

[@stevenlong9632]

I have used this board since April of this year with a 7950x3d, and since the last bios update and new AMD chipset drivers, it's really starting to shine. For me the best layout was to put a 9900 Pro Samsung drive in the top M.2 slot, and another 9900 Pro (Steam Drive) with a PCI Express adaptor in the PCIe 4.0 PCI _E3 slot, as both are straight to the CPU. This leaves the ethernet, HD audio on the 670E A chipset, with some USB and a M.2 slot. The 670E B chipset serves Wi-fi, the rest of the M.2 slots, and more USB. The back IO has a few USB straight to the CPU, wish it had a few more. My biggest complaint is no Bios reset button on the back of the IO.

[@LeoBoobi]

If its solid, what could be better ? Just to know what to look at when buying one. 😊

[@Kratom.]

I'm also looking to buy one, I just got a 7800x3d and am looking for the best motherboard.

[@connyr5767]

You dont need the Bios reset Button just remove the battery for few secs

[@carnagelan]

Hello, Is this board still serving well? The way you have the m.2 in the first slot and then another in the expansion slot. Does this reduce the x16 gpu to x8? This confuses me

[@stevenlong9632]

The GPU is on a PCIx5 slot, and has it's own lanes, as well as the main m.2 drive. My second m.2 drive is on a PCIx4 slot with an adaptor. All three have a direct path to the CPU. The other m.2 slots run off the chipsets, and share lanes with USB, ETHERNET, etc. You can download the manual and it shows all the lanes for the motherboard. Yes, the board runs perfect.@@carnagelan

[@husseinjuma5997]

I know I told you I will avoid this board, but after deep thinking I had 2 choices of boards, the Tomahawk or the Asus TUF, after careful consideration I went with the Tomahawk over the TUF. Works fine with no issue, but after all it came with one of the new BIOSes........Haven't had an MSI motherboard in over 20 years and I am satisfied. My only issue is booting especially in the Posting part is slow.

[@thornea7015]

I think the slow booting seems to be a 670e "issue". I have another one from Asus ROG and it also takes longer as I used to it.

[@lemonhaze715]

LoL i'm in the same situation, on 1 hand i don't want my cpu to blow up after 3 months using a asus board, but now i find this yt vid..

[@Laurentschoice]

Filming the carbon and I had to refresh the bios to get somewhat of a stable boot. Hard to believe it's going to be like this for all X670E powered boards!

[@thornea7015]

@@Laurentschoice if you are talking about the booting. I don't know if every 670e has it. But I read quite often in customer reviews for different boards take some time. Just took the time and my board needed 45 seconds to boot the bios

[@ChrisJSY]

I just got this a few days ago and booting helped by turning BOTH "Memory context restore" and power down enable" in dram settings this improved load times. Latest BIOS to date.

[@matarouc5349]

yes yes yes

[@ZapattaZ]

I had a lot of problems installing this motherboard, the same ones you describe. I entered the values ​​of my 64GB manually and increased their voltage a little and everything held up... 2 intensive months. The system shut down suddenly and the motherboard was no longer responding. I requested a refund. Maybe I'll go to a TUF. I really like what you do.

[@Probn4lyfe]

Never had a problem with mine, want to see what the new bios does with boot times.

[@mega0nyt]

do your bluetoth, wifi work fine? thanks

[@CJ-sm1sp]

How the boot time after almost a year? Has it improved? on the fence between this ir the 670 gigabyte aorus elite v 2.

[@Probn4lyfe]

@@CJ-sm1sp Yeah man! There's new bios out with a fix for it. Not memory context but it reduces boot time to sub 30s

[@manuelti5774]

This Board is actual absolutely fine. Bios update to Vers. E7E12AMS.1F0 and there are no problems to count. It runs in my system with a 7800X3D and Kingston Fury 32G @5600 MT. Boot is fast as hell with a Samsung 990 pro. No issues and I am glad with everything.

[@AgoraphobicNews]

So if this one is bad for the buck, which one should I buy for Ryzen 7 7800 x3d and RX 7900 xt?

[@creach34]

with the similarities, Do you have the same opinion for the MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk wifi? I have the some of the same problems with my Msi B650 tomahawk I updated the bios and it reduced some of the problems but still have problems like boot cycling before the bios splash screen and random shutdowns at Idol. it has not shutdowns when gaming or benchmarking. Not blue screen. I got the MSI because ASUS sucks for the 7000 series. Thank you for the reviews.

[@silobruh5377]

i been having the same issue do you got a fix ?

[@creach34]

@@silobruh5377 I send it back and got the gigabyte x607 elite. Sorry, I cant help.

[@shadoowman]

​@@creach34 i had big problem with x670 elite , the first one work 8 month after that did not reposen anymore, keep shut downs, as it was in quaranty i just receive a new one that lasted only 1month and not i got 65% of the money back and am looking to buy something alse form my 7800x3d. the first symtome : my build started himself at randoms hours in randoms day , after that next day keep shuting down alot till he did not start again any more. Take care!

[@AmirAl-Haque]

What do you think about the b650 tomahawk?

[@chiwoochunwang227]

MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi has dr.mos ?? I want to know. Thank you for you effort

[@shakacien]

In my opinion: Why an M.2 slot might be slow, limited, and not thermally shielded is that you can save a lot of resource costs assuming you use one slot for something that only often crosses 1/16th of the 32 gb you still have that would assumedly never heat up.

[@marshallpeck2473]

I’m having problems with mine i think, with yellow and red lights. I’m not sure how to fix it, if it is possible to fix it

[@ajdinyavuz7575]

Did you fixed it? Did you buy component's which are kompatible?

[@catmario-l8i]

cpu and dram light is an incredibly common issue.and there are a lot of "solutions". i recommend anyone with this problem just refunds it

[@SusanAmberBruce]

Can you explain the physical size of the copper that is connected between the VRM's and the CPU? What happens if someone presses the flash BIOS button accidentally while the computer is in use?

[@kuhgar]

i have a couple of differnt gen4 and gen3 M.2 Drives. They all are not going over 50 degree Celcius. Not even in stress tests or benchmarks! So the shield frozr Blocks works fine! Maybe thats a problem with gen5... we will see (but most of them coming with own active cooling solutions)

[@avroneelbiswas]

I am confused between vs ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-Plus WIFI and MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI. Which one I should get for my Ryzen 5 7600 powered by 3080 Ti Zotac Trinity OC.

[@Catlove388-s1i]

I'm getting a tomahawk because it's $50 cheaper in my region besides that I think MSI is the best considering gigabyte in Asus have issues ASUS has a voltage issue and gigabyte has privacy issues

[@Owen-fn8ff]

Thank you Laurent! I’d love to see reviews of MSI x670 Gaming plus better than Tombawk? MSI x670 Carbon, the big boss? Asrock x670 Steel Legend, the best mid range?

[@autumnjeserich2689]

I just bought this board for 25 dollars. Gonna be fun troubleshooting. Got any updates?

[@captnawty7966]

Wow, I wished that I would have watched your review about the MAG x670e Tomahawk motherboard. YES, the weak motherboard bio's sucks. I reinstalled the Bio's five times and I am now on my sixth reinstall of the bio's. IT KEEPS BREAKING ITSELF. Looking to upgrade to a stable motherboard, any suggestions?

[@Laurentschoice]

They fixed it on the Carbon... but if ur in tomahawk budget I'd go TUF x670

[@captnawty7966]

Thanks for the reply and I will keep looking to you for advice@@Laurentschoice

[@LilSebastian_]

The board will not run 4 x 16gb ram at 6000mhz. Just buy 2x32 sticks if you want it to run at max speed.

[@tawhidalif4763]

where did you get this information from?

[@LilSebastian_]

@@tawhidalif4763 I have the board and the and the 4 sticks of 16gb ram. I then had to get 2 x 32GB to get the board to run at 6000mhz on 64gb of ram. I didn't buy cheap/low quality RAM either. I bought GSkill Trident Z5 some-shit for AMD (AM5). I flashed the bios, you name it. Nothing worked except for changing the RAM. My advice would be, don't buy this board. Knowing what I know now, I would have bought ASUS or AROUS. My mistake was trying to keep everything 1 brand (MSI). The fastest I was able to get the 4 x 16GB RAM to run at was 4200Mhz. 2 x32 runs at 6000mhz and it's the same brand as the 4 x 16GB sticks I had in the board. When I would try to set the RAM speed higher than 4200Mhz it would get stuck in a boot loop and wouldn't post. I had to reset the board via CMOS.

[@gandharkambare2335]

This board or rog b650e f? I want mobo which is futureproof.

[@allidsarebusy]

Hi mate, i'm upgrading now and was considering this board. But do you think it's worth to invest more in something like MSI MPG X670E CARBON for example so later i can just swap for better CPU and graphics. I laready have XFX 310 merc 790xtx and planning to go with 7900x. Only not sure about motherboard. Thanks a lot in advance.

[@victorzuim]

Dude, good vid, solid review, but if you're going to finish your thoughts with "It should be better", you should give an alternative and explain the why, that would help a lot.

[@Laurentschoice]

Thanks for the kind words :) I thought I did compare the board to a Strix of some sort during the review and explained why it did not do so well against it :)

[@micoforion]

@Laurentschoice good, entertaining and informative review. I guess you'll need to register your mother board before you even installed so you can download up to date bios ? Or has MSI slowed the issue ?

[@HarrySatchelWhatsThatSmell]

Does the board support Thunderbolt AIC?

[@Feelstoramusic]

I purchased this from New Egg. Ram slots were defective, getting an RMA. Should I get a refund and get something else?

[@branislavdjordjevic7226]

Same thing happened to me. Everything installed and wont post past red and yellow light. I was in agony. Sadly I didn't watch this clip till the end and addressed this " no ,no ,no" to some marketing trick as review all the way till the end had a positive tone. Something you could change in the future. I wouldn't buy this motherboard if I sensed wtf. You are about. After installation of newest bios it worked...but Thing is that after extensive RAM memory training sessions, you could mistake one with sleep mode that is awakened only with the power button ( if not changed) so if interrupted it will go numb ( red and yellow) ...but. after flashing to native Bios it does boot but to some version of bios that doesn't exist on MSI site , that you obviously haven't installed but does work ( with date 29.09 2024) . Maybe some explanation?

[@Laurentschoice]

Hey something I realised, when u get this red yellow lights coming, short the reset and power button on the front panel connector reboots the board and somehow by pass the RAM full metterring. If you had a OLED screen it'll show error 15 for a few seconds , reboots and posts. Hope this helps

[@andresconeo3913]

I like this board for its theoretical characteristics and its price, however I want a board to work on engineering, data science, deepl learning among others, so I want something stable with similar or superior characteristics but without a very big price difference. What options to date would you recommend?, that has amd expo support and obviously ddr5? Greetings, excellent work @Laurentschoice

[@andresconeo3913]

I like this board for its theoretical characteristics and its price, however I want a board to work on engineering, data science, deepl learning among others, so I want something stable with similar or superior characteristics but without a very big price difference. What options to date would you recommend?, that has amd expo support and obviously ddr5? Greetings, excellent work ​ @@Laurentschoice

[@andresconeo3913]

I like this board for its theoretical characteristics and its price, however I want a board to work on engineering, data science, deepl learning among others, so I want something stable with similar or superior characteristics but without a very big price difference. What options to date would you recommend?, that has am5 amd expo support and obviously ddr5? Greetings, excellent work @Laurentschoice​ @@Laurentschoice

[@CJ-sm1sp]

@@Laurentschoice any idea if the known issues you've mentioned have been resolved at all?

[@jan_4263]

I already have an SSD linked to the 128 Gb/s ... I want another SSD so what SSD should i buy?? I dont know.

[@petez_23]

One question....If you have your graphics card on the PCIe 5.0 slot...Can it support at the same time the a PCIe m.2? And if its not is there another motherboard that can do it? Thank you!

[@Laurentschoice]

Yes it can

[@petez_23]

@@Laurentschoice actually I think I found the asus tuf gaming x670e plus wifi again from a video of yours... Is is a good motherboard? Or have m2 speed troubles as I read at a comment when u have a lot 3-4 m.2 drives on it? Or something about BIOS problems?

[@SpideyJared]

Would've nice if you stress tested cpu cooling with the motherboard, how good is the contact with its plating covering the chip?

[@drstrange2822]

Between this one the MPG X670E Carbon and the MPG B650 Carbon which one would you recommend for using it wiht a 7800x3d and a 4090? Or Maybe a different brand than msi? thanks

[@ax3lgam345]

x670e for shure

[@ctrlectrld]

I am in the market for an AM5 mobo, probably going with an ASrock X670E Steel Legend, but I still wanted to check this one out. I don't get the dislikes, perhaps it's because of the opinion you have on the PCIe layout, but that's an opinion and people should understand that. This is a fantastic review that touches on all the relevant info, detailed and funny even! What more do you want? The fact that you buy the hw you review is also a big plus. Btw, I do agree on the PCIe layout, and I also have issues with the placement of M.2 slots right under the GPU. Seriously MSI? Anyway, thanks Laurent :)

[@mikeholloway5979]

Hey brother, I have a ryzen 3 3100, a320m mobo and gtx 1660 super. I wanna upgrade my pc, should i upgrade my cpu(to 5600x), or the motherboard (to a b550 mobo). What should i do first? Pls guide. Also tell me the best b550 mobo, b550 steel legend or aorus elite ax v2 or aorus pro ax. Waiting for your reply!

[@alexhencz6550]

Hi, do you still want to build a PC?

[@palin19]

@Laurentschoice - as of today, which X670E motherboard would you recommend? Still obsessed by the ASUS TUF or any other?

[@reinulf5474]

check the block diagrams. He says this Tomahawk is messy, but in reality when you check the block diagrams then this is clean and the TUF is messy

[@hasanuguz6868]

I use this mobo with 7800x3d . When i updated to latest bios (7E12v13) bios keep freezing. I flashed old bios now "7E12v133(Beta version)" and no problem so far. Does anyone have same issue ? Or should i send for RMA?

[@slvrization]

Bios freeze seems to be a common msi bug. X570 tomahawk was freezing in bios setup, and it all started presumably after I installed a pcie wifi module (ax210 because onboard ax200 drivers are buggy af, not msi fault though). Resolved with a bios update

[@nuclearpowerrussianbear]

У меня bios зависал в первый день работы, на второй день всё само вылечилось, это была самая первая версия bios. Потом поставил 1.3 , всё так же хорошо работает.

[@hamode-w7k]

Some people saying there is booting issue and the others say its good mp so which side is right 🙃

[@Laurentschoice]

Yes ... Some booting issue due to memory clocking / counting . Boot with one stick (master 1A) . Once boot is achieved add more sticks

[@espi8997]

All your comments are on point. It is a pity since its Z790 brother is stellar, with even a Clr_cmos button at the back! But this one... meh! how much does an extra M2 shield/heatsink cost? And a couple of extra USB 3.1 ports at the IO shield wouln't hurt.

[@Laurentschoice]

WORD

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

AM5 is a new playform, Z790 is just refreshed Z690 so no comparison really, and Intels CPUs are insane in terms of power usage anyway, i9-13900KS pulls 400+ watts in multi thread LMAO

[@theferalpaladin4350]

"No temp sensors no flow sensors". Does this mean it would be senseless to get the AIO CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT Liquid CPU Cooler? I was building on newegg website and questions about this motherboard brought me to you. Thank you for the super awesoome breakdown. Subed

[@daveaufradern6658]

Excellent review like always Laurent, before i buy anything i look up your channel to see if you got an review.

[@unit335]

haha I love your reviews and info but most of all I think you are SO entertaining. You always make me laugh. Thanks Laurent!

[@hypa-mon6702]

Best review on this motherboard on all of KZbin, answered all my questions thank you 🙏

[@projectc1rca048]

Do you think the B650 version of this board is better?

[@JuicyCharon]

It's the same except basically on usb 2.0

[@justatim8143]

I like the way you tell the truth about a company not doing enough to make their boards worth buying. From all I researched about all the brands for AMD X670E motherboards none are worth buying unless you want to take out a lone just to own a motherboard worth buying for AMD but soct way to much for what you get.

[@badzilla1173]

Will you be reviewing the msi x670e carbon wifi?

[@Laurentschoice]

You bet I am !

[@badzilla1173]

@Laurent's Choice awesome! Can't wait too hear your thoughts on it. Got it during the whole asus and other boards killing chips debacle and at the time it was $50 off so I just said why not.

[@Laurentschoice]

Ordered and paid for

[@marianbencat6658]

My M2_3 slot randomly disconnecting ...

[@R6ex]

Glad your X870 Tomahawk review showed MSI has improved on it.

[@Kxray1]

Brooo what about the taichi? Only board you haven't reviewed. You made me reconsider all my other options 😅

[@spungaming9131]

I understand the want to review something and give your honest opinion and to almost gripe about the issues you've had. But at least give us an alternative mobo that you would recommend. I've been recommended by a few people to go with this mobo and of course this is the first video I see on it hahah 😅😫

[@Unternehman]

The energy screams "GOLDEN EYE" boris.

[@vincentvega3093]

Thanks for keeping up tegridy and calling out bad products

[@Laurentschoice]

Share the video ! It does not perform as well as the others :). I need minutes watched on this one! (Sorry for being direct ) !

[@graelstream2353]

damn the tomahawk took a nose dive :(. Would you recommend the MSI MPG B650 carbon instead of the tomahawk?

[@blueforce4030]

is the bios still buggy?

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

You don't need nvme or sata anymore. All you need us a usbc 3.2 cradle, what every drive you want and once windows in installed, download and install primocache. All you need is a windows to go install. Slap on a big cache and your done.

[@45eno]

I just bought a open box 5800x3D to try out vs my 5900x as I appear to get dips in my old BF4 game. But then with the newer AM5 only being $350 for the 7800x3D I am thinking I really don't want to spend that $266 on the older chip. I can sell my board for $100, RAM for $80 and 5900X for likely $260 to a friend that I will doing all the BIOS update/installation to replace his 3900x. So I will be only about $230-280 out of pocket to move up to AM5 but will drop to 32gb of DDR5 vs my 64gb of DDR4 3600mhz C18. I decided to buy an open box MSI Tomahawk X670E as I wanted 4x M2 and PCIe5 for future NVMe direct storage benefits and likely a modern GPU. The price difference between PCIe5 and 4 is like $20-30 so I want to include this and I want plenty of PCIe lanes as I run 4 NVMe drives now on a X570S MSI Edge Plus Wifi. Likely should just stay with the 5800X3D I just bought just have a hard time spending that much on older AM4 when it's only a couple hundred more to move up.

[@PeziBar-qm2tk]

Sorry, my english is to bad. So can you please write me the problem, that i can copy and paste for translation. Thx.

[@shalifi7774]

This or the steel legend x670e?

[@alierdemyuksel6516]

what did u do bro i am still thinking....

[@shalifi7774]

@alierdemyuksel6516 microcenters a bit far. But you can order for pickup from their website. I got a MPG X670E Carbon for half price open box. Got lucky. Tried to register it and it had a new warranty from factory still. Also got extended from microcenter. No problems so far. And it's a level of board I didn't think I could afford.

[@alierdemyuksel6516]

@@shalifi7774 damn bro thx for answering me i was thinking on da x670e carbon with 2nd hand its really good thx

[@llynellyn]

Most impressive thing for me about this is the amount of PCI-E slots

[@watchthisusa]

For some reason you seemed to really enjoy experssing negitivity concerning this MB.

[@watchthisusa]

It's kinda unambiguous that it's a good board for the price. Lame review. 😂😅😂😅😂😅

[@SuperNapolitanka]

Love your reviews, greetings fromSerbia :D

[@Laurentschoice]

YOO! thanks for dropping by!

[@Laurentschoice]

Did you just join ? Really appreciated MARKO. Let me know your twitter and insta handlers! You just made my day!!!!!!!! (and please use these sweet emojis as much as you can :) )

[@SuperNapolitanka]

@@Laurentschoice Just joined correct. Only have Facebook to remind me of my friends' birthdays :D

[@skarsol7423]

Sharing my "adventure" with MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard. 1. bought the motherboard from the official MSI Poland store - I got a motherboard that was inoperative from the moment of purchase and behaving in an illogical way - it indicated a RAM error by which I incurred the additional cost of replacing the RAM, then service diagnosis. 2. after a complaint and sending to the service the entire original package with accessories, I was sent back the board without these accessories and in replacement packaging. 3. the board was also sent back to me further faulty. 4. finally MSI decided to replace the board with a new one - decision on Wednesday 26.10., the board MSI claimed to have on hand. 5. scheduled delivery on Friday 03.11. - 9 days after the decision. I am more than a month without a computer due to MSI, but why hurry, the customer has already paid, it will wait.

[@arielis78]

I was going to pull the trigger on this board, Thanks for preventing me from headaches and hardships. Guess I'll have to go with the more expensive x670e Carbon wifi, Reason being I need an MSI board for it's Enhanced boost mode features on 7000x3d cpu's and Pcie 5.0 future proofing.

[@justsam100]

I have the Tomahawk. It's really got 0 issues, you have all you would ever need and it's pretty damn easy to troubleshoot (and if you can't just reflash bios with the button). Connectivity is not a problem...when are ever going to connect more than 4 or 5 things at a time, if that? And if you were and cared about connection speed you probably need a 1000$ tier board...certainly not entry-mid range. Also you really don't need to go up to the Carbon for OC, mostly because the cooling and the VRM config is already overkill for any 3D chip, now or in 4 years. Either you get a major upgrade like the ACE board or you get a "budget" one like the Pro or Tomahawk (if you want the PCIE 5 stuff), i really don't see the point of what is essentially a slightly upwards sidegrade. Also, to be brutally honest, any x670e mobo will be obscenely outdated by the time PCIE 5.0 makes a real difference, i.e. on GPUs. Current gen GPUs aren't even close to maxing out PCIE 4 bandwidths, and you shouldn't expect to see any real use for PCIE 5 (except for ssds, which shouldn't be a concern unless you're a professional music producer or a pro video editor) for at least 3 or 4 generations. That being said, if you want RBG and a cleaner looking board, sure get the Carbon.

[@arielis78]

@@justsam100 What about the issues the reviewer was speaking of, have you encountered any? Just asking, because I was really looking forward to getting this motherboard. Is he just an Asus fanboy looking at minute bugs/glitches and blowing them out of proportion? I understand with all the recent bios updates to fix the VSOC overheating has thrown a wrench into ALL the motherboards having issues and maybe what he's saying could be the aftermath of the fix? Again, just asking you from experiencing this motherboard. Thanks.

[@justsam100]

@@arielis78 I think he raises a few good points (mostly about the chipset being underutilized), but honestly it's mostly nitpicking; for 90% of users anything he mentions will never make a difference. The actual issues i encountered, which he completely missed, were with EXPO and other memory related settings, but i suppos that's a mix of the chipset and expo technology being quite new and the fact that amd had to focus solely on the voltage issue for a while, so it's mostly AGESA being shit rather than the board or manufactures BIOS. I think both of these will get more stable in a few months. Another thing is that the wifi adapters is good, but it has pretty weak signal reception (or maybe my adaptor is particularly shit) compared to other boards i own...not a deal breaker unless you have a huge home. That being said you can still get the rated RAM speeds for your sticks with manual oc (you can copy the expo setting, disable expo and then input them yourself). Other than that I have really no bad thing to say about this product. My 7800x3d chip scored 18300 in R23 with PBO and -30 all core curve optimizer, which is exactly the same as you would see on a 1000$ mobo. You could even manually OC your 3d chip to get higher boost clocks and lower W use, but i doubt that's worth your time. Ran OCCT for stability test, 0 crashes in 6 hours so it's pretty damn stable. Flashed the bios once, when cpu wasn't installed yet and never again.

[@justsam100]

@@arielis78 Having said all that, go with your guts, don't let me or any tech guy on yt tell you what you should or shouldn't like or buy. Get a motherboard that is technically sound, from a quality manufacturer and has the feature set (and the looks) that you need, that's gonna be the best purchase for you.

[@JuicyCharon]

@@justsam100 what bios version are you using?

[@lester44444]

Love your energy, it's fucking fabulous hahahaha do you know by any chance if the BIOS is stable enough to be worth consideration now? I personally like the PCIE config here just cos I don't have anything to fully saturate pcie 5.0, but can definitely see having more possibilities for non-gpu exapnsion cards benefitting my workflow. Just really not sure about the bios stability lol

[@Laurentschoice]

Thx for the kind words! Just reviewed the z790 carbon and saw a rock solid BIOS. Not sure if they fix this one though. :)

[@lester44444]

@@Laurentschoice fingers crossed it's ok hahahahaha keep up the great work mate! I could watch you present all day hahaha

[@danielgerecht1726]

My x670E asus tuf gaming-plus is worse without loosing power i sometimes have ti reboot an awful amount of times till i get anything changed ram went to 2 reboots till Windows

[@T0mash]

Thanks a lot for a review for this board, gave a lot of insight. Totally agree on missed opportunities, but I still went with it from final choice between ~10 boards. 4th M.2 is an overkill, so lack of shield is no prob. Cooling is more than adequate and for me personally more pcie slots even if they are slower is still a king - even if I don't use them straight away having an option to casually slap bunch of additional periferials is king. With current B550 having to choose between PCI-E 2xSFP+ fiber contoller or USB-C 3.2 gen2x2 and not having two slots to connect them last year was actually a breaking point where i will no longer consider MBs with only 2 pcie slots... Other than that everything about this board is actually very decent and that little cost over B650 boards is offset by PCI-E 5.0 for GPU - while there isn't anything obvious right now that could use that bandwith, maybe in 3-4 years we will see a change in graphics cards architecture that would take advantage of that...

[@finneogan]

Four M.2 slots are not overkill at all - if you want or need fast storage, the fourth slot is potentially saving you a lot of money, because you can use more smaller drives instead of the much more expensive large capacity ones. As for the lack of shield for the fourth, an adequate aftermarket heatsink costs you 10$.

[@SuperNapolitanka]

Хвала!

[@Laurentschoice]

and that's how its done bros!!! Look at the MARKO smashing it DA BUTTON!!!!!!

[@jaswanth27_90]

Dem* after watching this guy for an hour i fell in love with french people. I love theri funny accent Dayuuuuum

[@K1M01]

My chipset is heating alot ( I touched it )

[@MrTerrymccollough]

Oops, just ordered this the other day for my first pc build. We shall see I suppose.

[@unreal5143]

I have it and have zero issues with it. Booted without bios update and xmp profile worked at 6000mghz. Runs my 5 7600 at 5.35 on all cores at 1.18v. Only complaint is the bios is old as shit when it comes to the layout.

[@unreal5143]

@divzed3737 no issues at all. I have everything in a fractal torrent case I have it setup so I cannot hear my fans run. Hottest cpu gets is 55c under prime 95 torture test. Only time I can hear my pc run is if the gpu fans are maxed out and I have my headset off.

[@JomarsYT]

is mot msi fault, is amd fault, 1.7 bios is unstable on some boards, the 1.9 will release in august and fix most issues.

[@vx9330]

Thank you for mentioning this, I just bought the board because I found it cheap and I was getting a bit scared.

[@billnwa2250]

Thank you for sharing.

[@ReinForceOne]

My biggest gripe with ANY X670 board is the stupid PCIe layouts give me my 1x slots - lots of them have an x16 slot somewhere in the middle so I can plug in a GPU for testing without having to remove my 10gbe network card in the x16 slot at the bottom(cause requires x8 slot) This is the only one that comes even remotely close offereing decent spacing between x16 slots and provide at least one more x1 in a good location

[@3s.LEGACY]

2 day ago i buy this bord plz tell me reboot issue can be fix ?

[@vincentvega3093]

Oh wow, i am a day late. Thanks for the review, Laurent.

[@Laurentschoice]

No worries Vincent :)

[@theyoungjawn]

Nowhere near enough USB3.1 for the price. The B650E-F ROG board went down to $274 and is somehow better than this one.

[@Laurentschoice]

wait for the MSI trollers, they'll tare me apart.

[@MissMan666]

i think the Asus board has the crappy intel i225-V NIC, i would avoid that at all cost, over 25 years in IT, that NIC has got to be the worst and most troublesome, many revisions to fix it's basic issues, many driver fixes, i lost count over the years, problems fixed yet, nope....any realtek NIC is far better and safer choice.

[@MissMan666]

@@Laurentschoice doubt there is such a thing. But you totally missed the crappy network part on this board.

[@MaryJane-ly9ez]

I would love to see a review on the x670e steel legend by asrock. Great vid btw 😉

[@Lackingworth]

This will decide either I buy it not. I am not watching any other reviews. I am too lazy

[@Laurentschoice]

Smart man !

[@ahmadmahdee007]

Bro why not review the B450/x470 motherboards? Those are quite good mobos for budget builds!!

[@vincentvega3093]

They are like 5 years old, lmao

[@Laurentschoice]

Its hard to jump back on chipset :) I do get it though. Ur right. But it would be difficult for the current viewers to connect with it :)

[@ahmadmahdee007]

@@MakeSh00t AMDs current APUs also don't support PCIE 4.0..........u can pair the B450 tomahawk max with R7 5700g, and later in the future u can add a A750 or any budget gpu too.

[@ahmadmahdee007]

@@Laurentschoice i get it....but there are some very good B450 mobos that are worth mentioning....like the Msi B450 tomahawk max/carbon max wifi....these are worth reviewing. Where i live.... people frequently pair 3600X/5600X with them....and the demand is quite high as well.

[@JasonXBeats]

i love this channel

[@B_r_u_c_e]

Thank you.

[@Kay-Dawg]

this guys needs to have more views!

[@Laurentschoice]

Only your eyes matter to me ;)

[@solodolo3905]

minds work good no issue for now but its chugging hard 🙃

[@Revenge2393]

For anyone wondering whether to buy this motherboard - don't. I have never had as many issues as a motherboard as I had with this one. BIOS is beyond flaky, refused to POST on multiple occasions and would not switch off without turning it off at the wall, regardless of hardware configuration. This board also failed to update the BIOS on *7 occasions*. Save yourself the stress and for the same price, opt for the Asus TUF X670E WIFI which gives you the nice (almost) blackout aesthetic and has a BIOS that works correctly and is rock solid.

[@impaque]

With recent Asus RMA fiasco, no thanks for Asus.

[@rmorenberg]

interesting style of video. I've subscribed to see more

[@MrBook123456]

good video

[@davidjames4583]

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[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

Exactly why I stayed with am4 ddr4. Bad reports from everyone running am5. Random crashes, ram issues, boards just out right dying, cpus burning up. Lmfao hard fkn pass. Am4 just works.

[@MrRumple9]

need to speak more slowly can't understand a word

[@craxity]

Sorry, but you are absolutely clueless 😂

[@hirmor666]

Lousy review. Biased. Board is fine.

[@Laurentschoice]

Mother .... Is that you ???

[@ericdade3933]

Just give us the information man... Stop with all the dramatic nonsense. Almost impossible to make it through your voice flailing.

[@hoho6370]

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[@lemonhaze715]

Man seek some professionel help!

[@Laurentschoice]

I'm the professional help 😎

[@lemonhaze715]

@@Laurentschoice Then we are doomed!

[@Laurentschoice]

Now bend over and give me two coughs!

[@Laurentschoice]

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[@lemonhaze715]

@@Laurentschoice u look and sound like the type that would enjoy that but i have to decline thanks. Mental hospital is waiting for ur arrival lmfao.

[@408civettethreat]

First time viewer. And I must say I found the content very helpful and very detailed. Lastly it’s refreshing to see someone speak the truth instead of being a yes man or there head so far of ASUS / NVIDIA 🫏 that you can not tell where one ends and the other begins😂❤ 🍻. Subscribed!!🎉

[@herodes6200]

Got this board an im super unhappy with it

[@F1fan4eva]

Why?

[@herodes6200]

@@F1fan4eva The main reason is, that it was my first "expensive board" for 400€+ when I got it. And it broke after 6 months.