Majin Vegeta Explained - A Deeper Look

Dragon Ball Z's Best Arc is considered by many to be Vegeta. Goku vs Majin Vegeta is a LEGENDARY fight. We take a deeper look at Majin Vegeta. The Story of Majin Vegeta and his motivation is broken down.
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[@Rdc_Dom]

You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a saiyan always keeps his PRIIIIIIIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@majinvegeta3015]

Nice 👍

[@demonkingkongo0524]

Bicht

[@edvaldovinos9348]

Who invaded your mind and body? @kakashi

[@cookingsauce8274]

Pretty sure its fries

[@abhishekksharma9578]

I still get goosebumps remembering this dialogue !!

[@imu802]

"Open up your manga" lmao dude said it like if it was a bible 😂😂

[@themondoshow]

I'm U I’m glad I wasn’t The only person who laughed out loud too

[@abf7846]

The Dragon Ball manga is my bible

[@rhysvilla1592]

Honestly to me it sounded almost like he was making it sound like a textbook for school

[@sk8nuget]

Isn’t it though?

[@brolydictcumberbatchmontou401]

Now in the Super era it is. The Gospel of Dragon Ball according Toyotaro and the Gospel of Dragon Ball according Toriyama as both are canon. Manga and Anime are both following their own canonical laws and history. Z is the Old testament and GT is like the book of Enoch and original Dragon Ball is like Genesis. The Dragon Bible.

[@dennisd.4726]

Vegeta by far has the best character development in any dragonball saga.

[@brookhopper6660]

He has like the only character development

[@atljames97]

@@brookhopper6660 Gohan disagrees.

[@PKWinning07]

@@brookhopper6660 Tien is like the OG Piccolo who is the OG Vegeta lol

[@edwardii3920]

Don't forget about jolly green Piccolo

[@nnightkingj]

Wtf Dennis piccolo *

[@georgehouliaras7239]

"Goodbye to you all, Trunks, Bulma and yes even you Kakarot" -Vegeta, Prince of like 5 people.

[@Onepiecefan95]

Well he is the prince of all lets count all 7 saiyans Goku,Gohan,Trunks Bra,Goten,Broly,Beets Whatever the hack happend to him

[@I-own-your-feelings]

💀😂

[@saibamen2597]

Tarble

[@Onepiecefan95]

@@saibamen2597 Tarble is his brother and also a prince if you look at it like that since they share the same father.However he was exiled by King vegeta for being to weak and only appeared in the Abo Cado Special

[@bbqseitan7106]

3 and a half

[@imakai4962]

Majin vegeta was one of the most badass character in dbz

[@NoycieBrv]

Ima Kaioken DBZ ended at Cell..... so no

[@imakai4962]

The red baron buu saga was canon so what makes you think that

[@donovanjr284]

@@imakai4962 some people don't like the buu saga

[@kingleeq4561]

He'll yeah

[@kingleeq4561]

@@NoycieBrv you are so dumb.... You are REALLY dumb 😂😂

[@DragonballBlack]

Vegeta and Goku Best Buddies

[@leroystokes8501]

@@TienChad he is referencing DBZ Abridged by Team Four Star

[@verutorres9946]

M3rtyville in super they are more than in Z ..

[@lukas9098]

Frenemies

[@rainierlozano3093]

"Hey best buddy !" -Goku

[@custommediacreations]

Hi BlackScape.

[@nickdarvish6341]

What I really appreciate is that when Toppo abandoned his justice it kind of paralleled Majin Vegeta. And Toppo may as well have been telling Vegeta that he’d have to abandon himself to defeat him, and Vegeta really looked at himself and knew he couldn’t abandon himself again. He said he doesn’t abandon nothing and gains more power which is definitely a major contradiction to his motivation in the Majin saga. The character development tho!!!

[@banglaanimeproject9036]

I think you got that point right.

[@N.N01]

True

[@RLC3]

And he defeats him the same way he tried to defeat majin buu, but this time it worked.

[@uzomaiwuagwu535]

I loved the meaning behind their fight, so much that Jiren sided with Vegeta over the matter. Vegeta's finest moment yet! However, whereas Vegeta's selfishness was why he allowed Badidi to turn him into Majin Vegeta, Toppo went G.O.D. because his universe was on the line, thus Toppo going G.O.D. also made him similar to Gohan when the latter unlocked SSJ2. It's to the point that Gohan vs. Toppo should've continued their battle despite the former struggling against the latter compared to Goku and Vegeta holding their own against the Pride Trooper leader. Still, I loved Vegeta vs. Toppo and I'm glad that it was the former who took out the latter by using Final Explosion successfully.

[@Jiron127]

Vegeta abandoned nothing as majin. He was always about his pride and wanted to beat goku fair and scare. No great ape. Vegeta was holding himself back for years because he never fought for love/desperation. But survival. Or his own selfish reasons. That's why piccolo said vegeta would lose his body upon dying. There was a small clip right b4 vegeta cheap shotted goku. Of vegeta saying "he abandoned everything and had no loyalty etc". Goku called him out on it and said it was bs. Hence why goku said " Liar!! Talk all you want vegeta, but you'd have to convince yourself of it first". The whole majin thing w/vegeta was vegeta being exactly as he was prior to settling on earth. Vegeta killed people at the tourney, knowing they could be wished back. He wanted to beat buu and be the savior. Not goku. To your point, toppo did strike a cord in vegeta's heart. But for slightly different reasons. Toppo gained power and gave up everything for survival. Vegeta is the opposite. He never gave up his pride or roots as a saiyan warrior. No matter how strong he got. This fact is exacerbated because he saw earth and his family as driving points to survive. Ultimately the whole majin spell was a blessing in disguise: Babadi's magic did actually unlock vegeta's potential.

[@mjefferson3223]

I was the perfect warrior! Cold and ruthless! I lived by my strength alone! Unhibitted by foolish emotions!

[@LuckiSir]

But slowly- over the years, I became one of you!- my quest for greatness gradually way to this life of mediocrity.

[@mjefferson3223]

@@LuckiSir I awoke one day and found that I've settled down. formed a family... I had even grown quite fond of them

[@coreythomas3633]

Mr Lakiro savage

[@coreythomas3633]

m jefferson savage

[@countgrishnackh73]

@@mjefferson3223 you understand now Kakarot that's why I needed Babidi to set me free by releasing the evil in my heart and I have to say it feels pretty good even if they do come at a price

[@guyver6622]

"Meaningless, huh? WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF MEANINGLESS?!... Spend most of your life ruled by another. Watch your race dwindle to a handful. And then, tell me what has more meaning than your own strength. I have in me the blood of a Saiyan prince. He is nothing but a joke. Yet I've had to watch him surpass me in strength. My destiny, thrown to the wayside. He's, he's even saved my life as if I were a helpless child. He has stolen my honor. And his debts... Must. Be. Paid." - Vegeta Best lines in the entire DBZ universe! Change my mind!

[@ogloc4478]

One of my favs is another vegeta one. It’s where he says kakarot is a true warrior and will die against cell if the fight kept up. Just being straight up with everyone even about their beloved goku dying was pretty cool to me. Of course goku quit lol

[@gageboutadolla9561]

Travis Nelson I wouldn’t agree more speech was epic

[@Jdudec367]

goku's super saiyan line is still the best line ever

[@andrewbledsoe131]

@@Jdudec367 nah. Its alright. But it ain't it chief. Although his first transformation still gives me goosebumps. I'll give ya that. Buy simply reading this. Gave me goosebumps

[@Jdudec367]

@@andrewbledsoe131 I mean his line gives me goosebumps honestly vegeta's was fine to though

[@jeremystarnes2955]

I believe the outcome of this fight between him and Goku was the turning point for Vegeta. It's such beautiful character development

[@b-conn6624]

Honestly if DBZ had ended with Vegeta sacrificing himself and killing Buu with his final explosion I'd have been okay with that.

[@xHaloxReviewerx117x]

Same but history did not want that

[@Jayjay_07]

It would be an epic ending but I would cry till this day

[@AlexSmith-tz2lf]

It's really always been about Goku though. They should have done a lot better though.

[@TooLameToDie]

It should have ended with Gohan defeating Cell but I can get behind the idea of Vegeta ending Buu and wrapping up Z that way.

[@Doctor_Odin]

I can see that considering Vegeta could be seen as Goku's replacement as champion of the Realm of the living. (Because let's face it after all they fight and kill people that make the highest order of God's mess themselves. Normally after that God shows up and whines to them.) At least until Gohan is fully ready accept the throne left to him.

[@choloscience]

"Open up your manga to chapter...." Basically "open up your Bible to chapter ...."

[@notinterested8902]

🤣🤣🤣

[@notinterested8902]

😂😂😂

[@Jsolo13]

I really like when Majin Vegeta apologizes from a distance to Gohan when he realizes that Buu probably killed Gohan and it’s his fault. It reminds me of when he apologized to Gohan for attacking super perfect cell and leading to Gohan breaking his arm to save Vegeta

[@Orion_Nebula_M42]

Believe it or not Vegeta had a deep respect for Gohan. Means alot as a Gohan fan :)

[@Synthwave89]

@@Orion_Nebula_M42 For sure. Even as a young, nearly defenseless child, Gohan had fought both Vegeta and Nappa, Frieza's men, and Frieza himself, and Vegeta witnessed nearly all of these feats. As a Saiyan, Gohan also eventually caught up and surpassed Vegeta, which despite angering him greatly, also grew into great respect for Gohan.

[@matthewroberts198]

@@Synthwave89 I think it also stems from the fact that Gohan, other thab stealing the Dragonball in the Frieza saga has never annoyed Vegeta. I remember there was several times during that Saga, especially against Frieza, that Vegeta knocked Gohan out of the way to save him from being killed.

[@shariqhasan6220]

@@matthewroberts198 It could also be that since Goku and him were the only Saiyans left. Maybe he thought Gohan could end up being one of the last members of the Saiyan race. So he defended him so that the saiyans live on

[@esg_zom3319]

@@matthewroberts198 damn everyone raising gohan but goku lol

[@assaultflamingo2.068]

For a character that is constantly striving for being the strongest and not letting emotions get in the way, Vegeta has some of the most badass and emotional moments. When he gets upset over the pain/death of those he does care about and becomes ruthless. His 'final atonement' vs Buu, and when he kept getting up over and over vs kid Buu, so Goku could use the Spirit Bomb... Vegeta is just stellar character

[@alphanojutsu5243]

toriama saw vegeta's hairlinne then said lets draw M boom majin vegeta

[@superfarful]

This is so funny because its probably true

[@killerqzer5652]

Lol

[@danielscutaru6682]

A GENIUS!!

[@phantomx3902]

😂😂😂😂dead

[@kingleeq4561]

HAHAHAHAhahahahahehehehe..... Yeeaahhh that's not funny the hairline jokes are soo outplayed

[@SchoolBoyz]

Super genuinely needs another serious fight between Goku and Vegeta. Not having Vegeta turning evil again or anything fancy, just a straight clean fight between the two.

[@brando3424]

I agree 😁

[@Jiron127]

I propose another ToP but w/different rules. No erasing universes. But instead every women/man for himself/herself. Last man standing get's a wish w/super dragon balls and special training w/daishinkan. Or Mix up the teams randomly to even things out. U6, 7 and 11 would always stomp the others making it unfair.

[@kingblackwaffle]

Won't happen. They are to past that. Only way is if they are forced to fight e.g. maybe trapped somewhere n have to use all of their energy to get out so they fight each other.

[@edvaldovinos9348]

Embarrising huh

[@blue9139]

We need a fight where he goes SSJBE and destroys goku until goku gets a ui omen again

[@ImmortalRooster6]

“Trunks, Bulma I do this for you..........and yes even you Kakarot” -Vegeta 1994

[@johnrildo2325]

I think another reason that Vegeta allowed Bobbidy to put him under the spell, was because he (and Goku) didn't think that Buu would really be much of a threat. They didn't take the fight seriously anymore, especially after easily defeating the henchmen, who were also supposed to be too much for them.

[@tyleramaker2825]

I kinda agree with that interpretation. None of them could have ever imagined just how powerful Buu would be, especially after Gohan (slacking on his training) was enough to go toe-to-toe with Dabura.

[@ishallneverdie2445]

Bobbidy?

[@brycekrispiez714]

So basically he had it set to M for mini, when he should’ve had it set to W for Wumbo

[@patrickn.4113]

Priceless

[@themostbritishpersonalive868]

Yeah he could of defeated Goku if only he had it set to wumbo

[@misssincere5762]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣

[@themondoshow]

Underrated comment

[@callmeaweeb4169]

Vegeta just grows 100x his own size and steps on Goku

[@mechajay3358]

Majin Vegeta: _"There's one thing a Saiyan always keeps.... _*_HIS PRIDE!!"_* The Prince of Saiyans in a nutshell

[@FYAHWEHL]

Till Beerus came to earth.... I still get nightmares from that awful dance....

[@bigboidarrius37]

I get chills every time I watch tht scene

[@xHaloxReviewerx117x]

Super vegeta: I AM PRINCE VEGEEEEETTAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

[@xHaloxReviewerx117x]

@@FYAHWEHL honestly I enjoyed that it was so out of character that it was hilarious hes always such a serious dude

[@nachosrule6985]

@@FYAHWEHL FUN TIME BINGO!

[@ade1174]

Vegeta's final atonement is my favorite moment in DBZ. Such an emotional sacrifice that means a lot for Vegeta's character development to finally acknowledge Goku as the best later on during the fight with Kid Buu.

[@trinityassassinz9195]

Too bad it was useless

[@x_MysticSaiyan_x]

And the narrator just made it even more heart wrenching with his description at the end of the episode.

[@ChiefPeep]

Prince of Destruction Vegeta sama

[@brandonvause8752]

My favorite title for the character.

[@kingleeq4561]

Ahhhh Xenoverse

[@kingleeq4561]

@@brandonvause8752 Exactly

[@kyleisreal_tv]

I Will Crush You! And Throw You Into The Wind!!! My favorite Vegeta line

[@nishant1219]

KyleIsReal Helli0nSlayR 😈💝💝

[@troub1337]

@@nishant1219 what?? what about "does a machine ever experienced fear"

[@coolkidzmedia3259]

That’s my favorite line too🗣

[@LW-nx5zv]

Plot saved buu not EXCUSES howntf that explosion did not kill him it was a complete full area take out all full energy!

[@ChrisAssassin]

It hurt when he was the one that blew away in the wind.

[@AustoLaVista]

The most badass character in all of Dragonball.

[@ShadeZer0]

facts

[@adrenalinex4]

factz

[@dradekon]

facts

[@Deathmare235]

Hits more badass

[@gadielzepeda68]

@@Deathmare235 hell no

[@sammymorales6838]

Majin Vegeta vs Goku is one of the best fights in DB history

[@glennrhee7918]

@@blacklyfe5543 @ He said one of the best.

[@saturncrush]

A very close second was Android 17 vs Piccolo!!!

[@LW-nx5zv]

@@blacklyfe5543 are you stupid or a causal fan Goku vs vegeta is #1 then piccolo 17 And what ever after I hate you new fans lol jokes

[@RedRhythm_1]

@@blacklyfe5543 goku vs jiren was pretty good but i don't think it was better then goku vs vegeta and piccolo vs android 17

[@darkfaceultimate3741]

When you really think about it, it’s wild how much influence Vegeta’s decisions have in the way events play out. As well as the results, i.e. Letting Cell absorb 18, which in turn got his son (even though he got brought back) and Goku killed, letting himself fall under Babidi’s magic, resulting in the destruction of numerous planets and lives taken by all incarnations of Buu.

[@mcurran6505]

Majin Vegeta, one of the few best things out of the Buu Saga. And my all-time favorite. "Farewell Bulma, Trunks & even you...[sigh] Best Buddy!"

[@BrianAwesome]

For me, I would watch errthang from the Great Saiyaman Saga - Majin Buu/Majin Vegeta/Gotenks is Born Saga, and just Skip STRAIGHT to the Kid Buu Saga.

[@88K-d6h]

Tbh it got hella boring wen Vegito outside of Buu destroying Earth. But i liked all the tension during Badidi/Buu beginning, Majin, Gotenks.

[@KootenaiKing]

Majin Vegeta has always been my favorite iteration of the Prince. Every time I say "back to the way it was before," I always say it like Vegeta when he's talking to Goku, and explaining why he allowed Babidi to take control over him.

[@guyver6622]

"And so one of the Earth's greatest warriors has vanished in a blinding flash of light having made the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of his loved ones. His name was Vegeta.....a proud....saiyan.....prince.

[@solascriptura-e7t]

...and on the preview of the next episode, you see Fat Buu walking. Made me want to throw my television, at the time (2001 or 2002).

[@thekaioshinshafter2266]

I was at walmart today and i saw a mustang with the Majin symbol, and a license plate that said mjin blu, since his car was blue

[@AguilaDeOnix85]

Toppo abandoned his justice for survival. Vegeta abandoned his self-determination for a win.

[@Deathmare235]

Both were desperate though Vegeta’s was personal

[@anthonyhutchins676]

To me Vegeta went Majin because he was guilty that he was becoming a good guy and losing his Saiyan way. It was his desperate attempt to stay who he was and to get to the next level of power. Although he realized even with his brain being controlled that he actually cared about everyone.

[@10-AMPM-01]

The odd thing about that aspect of softness... Some soldiers and veterans feel that way. To turn off your caring. Do it to save the world from a greater evil...

[@TheDansParty]

The Majin Vegeta character helps bring the series to a full circle.

[@manbearpig2400]

One of the best vids I’ve ever seen. Thank you

[@Geekdom101]

thank you!!!

[@williamricks363]

Honestly, the best video you have ever done. My opinion. Vegata is my favorite character in all of Dragon ball. Awesome job!

[@albertisaak2268]

Same

[@rawnorth7882]

Who's vegata?

[@smcrevival1467]

I thought that vegeta's character arc was the best thing about the buu saga

[@ShadeZer0]

same

[@MAR-sc7np]

That gohans power up and vegito in my opinion

[@solascriptura-e7t]

... That is why it can't call the Buu Saga "trash", like a lot of people.

[@williamwhite2568]

That and Vegito.

[@Deathmare235]

@@MAR-sc7np just the one episode with Gohan beating Buu

[@Tehutidg07]

Vegeta was going through a midlife crisis

[@707milly2]

TehutiDG07 basically

[@DoubleBoost23]

"Hey, I'll try taking Trunks to the park! ...That didn't help with the problem.." "Oh hey, problem source is back, so we'll fight in a tournament. Great!" "Wait, where'd the purple midget come from? Ah dang, gotta put this itch on hold." "wAIT HE'S MUCH STRONGER NOW?" "Hm.. Maybe trying out that magic will help. ..No, now I just feel like a jerk. Time to go beat up sentient bubblegum."

[@EphPhaThaINC]

One of my absolute favorite parts of Super and on Resurrection F, and seeing it in a movie theater, surrounded by hundreds of fellow DBZ fans,, was having Vegeta for once at the end save the day and save Goku. The best way to show that Vegeta’s story arc had come full circle.

[@newcorpses]

Great job breaking this down. This is my favorite arc in Dragon Ball Z. It is extremely well-written and poignant at the same time. No other character in all of Dragon Ball has as great of a development as Vegeta, and that's why so many people love him. My favorite character is Gohan, but even his storyline falters compared to Vegeta. Also, I love the fact that he and Goku are a team now. After seeing such a bitter rivalry for pretty much all of DBZ, it's wonderful to see them fight together as friends. This is one of my favorite Geekdom videos. I'd love to hear you talk about Vegeta's resolution at the end of DBZ.

[@1Knoche11]

I teared up when seeing that episode the first time. One of my favorite moments of the show.

[@hatezeox]

when vegeta turns his head and says, "yes, even for you, Kakorat," it made me cry and gives me chills to this day

[@ultron1191]

It's okay

[@clickmaster3692]

Beginning of dbz: Goku and vegeta fighting to the death. End of dbz: Goku and vegeta fighting together til death. Dbs: Goku and vegeta unlocking new power together.

[@Yesboiii99]

Dragon Ball Online: Goku and Vegeta fight, kill each other on another planet deep in space, and the effects of the battle can be seen on earth years later

[@edvaldovinos9348]

Now that is something you don't see every day right.

[@mahdawg8740]

WILD THEORY: It’s been a long time since I’ve watched this arc or read it in the manga, but I remember thinking about it a lot back in the day cause it was/is still one of my favorite Vegeta story arcs. It always bugged me though how the fight was undercut by Goku holding back the way he did, and despite the entire fight seeming even, there wasn’t as really much suspense as it seemed. So I came up with a super head canon theory to explain this, and imo make it a much more enjoyable watch/read. Disclaimer, Vegeta is my favorite character and as a Vegetard I’m gonna be severely over hyping him with this, but bear with me. The theory goes like this: when Goku unlocked SSJ3, we saw in his eye his body devolve from great ape down to an infant right before he finished the transformation. This isn’t really ever explained (to my knowledge), but the way I interpreted that was meaning that part of unlocking SSJ3 meant acceptance of ones self and true nature, accepting your past, etc. basically having a clear mind and sense of purpose, and self assuredness. Skip to the Vegeta/Goku dialog before/during the fight. Vegeta says on multiple occasions how his past losses and loss of pride have affected him, his confidence, and self worth. He idolizes the old him, the “perfect warrior” who was heartless and cold before he ever encountered Goku or the rest of the Z fighters. Since then, Vegeta has never been self assured. He’s struggled with who he was, and after meeting people that changed him, who he wants to be. These mental barriers IMO are the reason he could never reach SSJ3, because unlike Goku, he was to conflicted to accept who he really was. At least at this point in the series. That changed when he became Majin Vegeta. Looking at the fight, they’re very clearly holding back and toying with each other. Flaunting skill over power, and slowly working their way up in intensity because it’s obvious they genuinely enjoy what they’re doing. For different reasons, but to the same effect: they’re having fun. And they’re doing what they’ve done countless times before, which is ignore the stakes for the sake of the best fight they can get. This leads both of them to the strategy of playing it slow and gradually increasing/matching each other in power while they dance and try and find openings in each other’s fighting style. This is where the crux of the theory comes in. We as an audience know Goku is holding back, Goku does, but Vegeta doesn’t. If they were allowed to keep going, I think Goku would eventually have to go SSJ3 to beat Vegeta after a long and grueling battle, finally trying to break the tie in their strength and gain a meaningful advantage. At this point, I think Vegeta would have a bit of a breakdown, but ultimately be able to match him and go SSJ3. He would see for the first time all fight, and for the first time in years, Goku going all out. Which is what he wanted more than anything, to beat Goku at his best. When he sees this, it would inspire him to push himself and remember why he went to such lengths to get the opportunity he has. The same way he unlocked base SSJ from self hatred and frustration. He’d be seeing his chance for closure slipping away, and fall into that same impulsive rage mindset. Only, due to him throwing away his attachments to everyone and everything that isn’t his pride and power, he would have a clear mind and sense of purpose and hit SSJ3 in that moment. The same way Goku unlocked base SSJ to protect others, and Vegeta did it for himself. Opposite motives, same result. But both required a sense of purpose and self assuredness combined with emotion, which is only exaggerated more in SSJ3. And that fight would have given Vegeta both of those, replicating how he matched Goku’s transformation back in the Android arc. I don’t think even Vegeta realized this, since 1 he wasn’t pushed that far in the cut-short fight, and 2 by the time he freaks out about Goku holding back, he had already overcome his Majin phase. Which is exactly why he never did/never will achieve SSJ3. When Vegeta over came Babidi he switched back to being a decent person again, and being the opposite of what he spent most of his life being. By doing that, he gave up his self assured mindset (albeit for a better one overall) and in doing so, accepted that he was wrong for most of his life and is doing better now than in the past. And by accepting his past as wrong, he setup mental barriers that would never let him reach the level of self-righteousness needed to unlock SSJ3. He unknowingly missed his one and only chance to match Goku in that form, but still gave it up willingly because he realized that morals are more important to him than power. Which is echoed in his sacrifice, and his acknowledgment of Goku at the end of the Buu fight. He’d rather be a good person and second best (at least until Super) than an awful and empty person at the top of the ladder. Which is where his character development comes full circle from when we first met him. The real difference being, Goku spent his whole life acting right, and knowing he was right. Vegeta spent most of his life acting wrong but thinking he was right. When he realized that and changed for good, he grew as a person but changed too much to ever have the self assuredness of Goku, or the self assuredness needed to unlock SSJ3. He only had it for a short time when he was Majin and “reawakened the evil in his heart”, but ultimately recognized that Goku was right all along, not him, and chose to grow as a person, stopping him from growing in power. TL:DR - You need to be self-righteous to become SSJ3. Goku was, and in that fight Vegeta was too and probably could have unlocked it if it went long enough. But the fight was cut short and he ultimately chose to be a good person, unknowingly giving up his chance at unlocking SSJ3.

[@DrYnroh]

Goku didnt use ssj3 because he wasnt sure his body could take the massive energy drain. Ki works differently in other world and the form doesnt stress the body as much. Pretty simple

[@themondoshow]

Yeah

[@custommediacreations]

I love your theory, it was fun to read. Thank you.

[@JayJay-de5jv]

Great theory

[@TheCrazyCapMaster]

10:36 I feel like the end of Vegeta’s life was when he finally began his biggest change- he began to accept who and what he was now, instead of what he imagined himself to be... once he did this, he started to finally understand how many people he’d hurt, people he cared about even. At that point, like you said, he got overwhelmed with grief and sacrificed himself to atone for his own mistakes.

[@Ronin_Vector]

"YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HUMILIATION IS!"

[@epache315]

The Saiyan Prince Got His Clown On The Ropes This Is What DBZ Love! Is All About!

[@tylergodfrey312]

one of the last times you hear vegeta's iconic theme song hells bells

[@myklelara]

Hi Geekdom, great video. I thoroughly enjoy this part of Vegeta’s character arc and it was fun listening to you dissect it. Thought it would be a cool and fun video idea for you to breakdown the nuisances of the “Good” parts of Freeza’s character (as well as entertaining and informing for us) as this is one of your favorite characters. My apologies if you’ve already done this in one of your previous 2k+ videos. Thank you.

[@uncouthliyouth4486]

The writing here was phenomenal. Buu arc so underrated.

[@jamieroseman4429]

They need an arc where Goku is turned evil and then we get the rematch we all want to see. Vegeta being the only one who can take him down gets the W.

[@qualityqueen1553]

More like bring back gokus kakarotte personality back

[@Deathmare235]

Goku would never be evil maybe they expand on Frieza’s race and they give one with good intent and they fight for his life or death

[@wanilimbe]

Dragon Ball After Young Jijiji

[@RetroBrax]

great in depth as always brother, keep it up

[@notmycupoftea]

"M" stands not for Majin, but for Mid-life crisis :>

[@georgehouliaras7239]

I thought it's for Memes. The DNA of the soul.

[@Sungura_Kaiser]

ManofChrist101 reference?

[@aliddda328]

Is migraine

[@davepierre7492]

This is pretty solid. You should do more for different characters.

[@MrMisterJW]

He has

[@Geekdom101]

I have.

[@danielscutaru6682]

Majin Vegeta always be my favorite pick in every db game Top character ever imo

[@VornTheMatrix]

What's imo

[@whoastairs9636]

@@VornTheMatrix in my opinion

[@andychang6737]

By far, one of the best in-depth introspective reviews of Vegeta. Keep it up!

[@LuckiSir]

Tbh when I think about it, he had pretty good character development (even compared to others like Piccolo or Tien etc.) A journey of pride becoming humility, and although its a bit shaky, *Majin Vegeta* is an important part of Vegeta's story. It not only shows his inner mentality those past few years, but it also shows how far he's come compared to his first appearance in the Saiyan Saga. although I give him shit for his cockiness resurfacing from time to time, I think he's my favourite character in Dragon Ball. He's got flaws and he's not afraid to show it.

[@Scionofgreyhaven]

Majin Vegeta was so dope, Great character development, fight, design, story moments. I remember Majin Vegeta in the video games had like that crazy Gollum fighting stance too

[@codyrogers1011]

Majin Vegeta is such a well developed arc because always being surpassed what you work so hard for that someone easily achieves. Everyone feels this at some point in our lives so i think its very relatable to anyone

[@Mr80Elky]

Best thing to me about it was literally Goku willing to attack Supreme Kai if he didn’t move out of the way. Shows just how angry he was at Vegeta’s actions. We rarely get to see that side of Goku. I’m prefer Vegeta for his mindset , but Goku has always been awesome when he’s serious.

[@solascriptura-e7t]

True. That was an interesting twist, like you say: to show how angry he was at Vegeta. "Serious Goku" is a rarity.

[@key2fye330]

Thanks for explaining majin vegeta at first I didn’t get it

[@Riley_187]

"The saiyans will never fade" ~Vegeta

[@georgehouliaras7239]

You mean the space warriors? :P

[@rawnorth7882]

Your vegeta is showing

[@ekayn1606]

Vegeta's sacrifice was the most epic heart filled moment in all of Dragon Ball

[@uzomaiwuagwu535]

Much more emotional than Goku's second sacrifice as he was informed by Piccolo that he would be going to Hell if he'd died but he went through with sacrificing himself anyway for the sake of his family and to make up for releasing Buu.

[@nowfuture9330]

HA!!! I'd have to reserve that for Goku and/or Piccolo dying for Gohan. Even GT when Piccolo died in saving others and not being able to save himself from an exploding planet.

[@ekayn1606]

@@nowfuture9330 nah Vegeta did a 360 of character and showed his love for his family trumps his pride

[@nowfuture9330]

@@ekayn1606 Goku always sacrificed for his loved ones 100% selflessly, when he died. When he first died for his son, there wasn't an ounce of thought given to protecting him at whatever cost; even to the extreme of working with his enemy who wanted to kill him. Vegeta put them all in danger and nearly killed his family when Majin Vegeta, and partially sacrificed himself so that Goku wouldn't do it, because he KNEW that Goku would effortlessly even be completely erased form existence for them all if need be, even for Vegeta. Vegeta's pride couldn't handle the thought of Goku dying for him again. Vegeta's death was an atonement for what he did in allowing Buu to escape. So, no; I don't put him on the same level as Goku and Piccolo's 100% selfless sacrifice. Yet and still, it was him for the first time deciding to die for others instead of killing them.

[@ekayn1606]

@@nowfuture9330 it's the fact that he was a ruthless warrior that makes it so impactful. He shed tears for his son and the life he had made on earth knowing he was going to hell "forever" but was willing to die for them. He knocked goku out so he wouldn't get the spotlight yes. But the sacrifice was selfless. As far as he knew goku was around his strength and stood no chance.

[@BatmanPops]

Buu is a big pink peace of bubble gum😅😂

[@majinsole8554]

“That cotton candy, that Majin Buu” ~_~

[@BatmanPops]

@@majinsole8554 yeah he cotton candy strawberry ice cream pretty much all of that pink sweet good stuff 😄😃

[@hasantariq869]

Batman Pop's hey I’m a real leaker the dragon ball project z game will be called Dagon ball z kakarot

[@MJandPACthebestever]

No its Kirby

[@witherthegamer9718]

@@hasantariq869 shut up

[@ragepaint]

I always liked how the M on his forehead accented his widow's peak.

[@DoubleBoost23]

So basically, he reacted like how most people do when seeing a old friend- Vegeta subconsciously regressed to acting the way he used to around Goku, and by the time he got a spoiler on how their fight would go, that temporary regression was able to spark desperation and rage.

[@LW-nx5zv]

People really forget How evil vegeta was He had the beat character development In anime history And differently #1 in dbz/dbs

[@mohamedkhider6998]

Yes

[@majinvegeta7777]

Dbs is a just a bullsh*t fairytale fantasy for babies & special ed kids

[@kevinwyman3385]

What a great take on the character development of vegeta. I couldn't agree or like this anymore man. Im happy you're back to putting content out on the regular.

[@FleaGotti8]

Dragon Ball Z was so badass yo I swear Akira Sensei need to get bacc to his Z ways with Super 🔥🔥🔥

[@Geekdom101]

he's past his prime IMO

[@Deathmare235]

@@Geekdom101 it wasn’t Toriyama it was someone else

[@Deathmare235]

It wasn’t Toriyama it was someone else

[@njmwape1]

sometimes u come to an end with certain characters, it needs fresh characters

[@majinvegeta7777]

@@Geekdom101 true bro. Super is just a bullsh*t fairytale fantasy

[@HEYHAZE29]

I loved majin vegeta! Thank you for this in depth interpretation. Every time the beat kicks in at the end, I feel nostalgic aura!

[@junelopez420]

I really wanted too see that goku vs vegeta at the tournament 😂😂😂

[@IndigoUchiha26]

I mean we did see it

[@Yoitsbobbyboy]

“I done goofed up” man if only vegeta would’ve actually said that lol.

[@spectreshadow]

One of the best character arcs for Vegeta hands down.

[@carlosanderson4479]

I was watching this when I heard of Akira Toriyama's death. May he forever rest in peace.

[@carrot7215]

Dbz logic: Saiyan arc: vegeta: i will destroy this planet with you! Namek arc: frieza: this planet will destroy in 5 minutes Buu arc: vegeta exploded himself No harm done to the planet

[@nigelholland1714]

"You may have invaded my mind and my body, but theres on thing a Saiyan always keeps. His PRIIIIIDEEEE!!!!!!

[@casualcrusader1547]

if the majin vageta sacrifice was when the buu saga ended, i would have been just as happy with the arc

[@Hakeemthedr3am]

I swear man

[@andersonjeremiah6]

If a villain ever kills someone he cares about he will be the MOST POWERFUL EVER. Goku saw krillin die and went ssj for the first time. Goku loves and cares about alot of people and give him motivation. Vegeta cares about like 2 or 3 people. BERRUS just slapped bulma and he went ham before ssjb or dbs arcs...if he had a major traumatic event he would tank

[@blazebananacrusher5241]

I think this is my favorite character arc in the entire series.

[@lopirobinson1991]

It's like as Majin Vegeta he finally got out all his frustration on Goku before saying, "I can't be this bitter forever so let me do something selfless." He really wailed on Goku as Majin Vegeta; years of pent up aggression. I got goosebumps when he was screaming at Goku after trapping him in the rock wall. "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HUMILIATION IS!!!" Epic my man. EPIC!

[@stefcannon2580]

I remember watching all this unfold for the first time in 2001 or 2002 on weekday morning TV, I was shocked when Vegeta let himself be taken over by Babidi, and maybe more so when he sacrificed himself against Buu. Being the English dub, I find the scene where he's talking to Piccolo and then Trunks and Goten (before knocking them out) to be spooky with the music that plays throughout that scene. Eerie, ominous, and you just knew Vegeta was thinking of something drastic (and at the time, seemingly permanent)! And definitely, the fight between Goku and Majin Vegeta was awesome, especially towards the end with that amazing animation and fight choreography! In the last episode of their fighting :)

[@BIGMIKE32ful]

Excellent video, I'm a huge DBZ and I learned something with this video. Keep it up 👍

[@NolansMovieTalk]

I love vegeta a lot he is probably my 2nd favorite character in dragon right behind goku BUT that doesn't mean he is any less special then goku cuz they are both awesome

[@brandoncutler09]

Supreme Kai: I am a god. Goku: Ha ha. Oh you previous little grape.

[@garrettwise7713]

He’s my favorite character. Awesome writing and development, especially in super imo.

[@omerodiaz922]

4:49 me when my mom asks "where all did baking soda go" when i was the one who ate all of it

[@Zombyra123]

Majin Vegeta best form ever

[@CarlosHuiskens]

For me as a Vegeta fan i have his Majin Form tied with SSJ4 and Super Saiyan Blue Evolution.

[@Rakushio]

".....me a *Warrior Elite!* In my finger-tips i hold the power to destroy entire worlds! I am a Saiyan of royal blood. The *last* of my kind. And on my shoulders rests the glory of an extinct warrior race. Whole civilizations once trembled at the sound of my name, but you didn't, did you? *Kakarot* " Majin Vegeta had some of the _best_ speeches ever delivered in the show. The dub especially, even if they aren't particularly source-accurate.

[@jessejamesroy0069]

Thanks for doing this i agree strongly with all of it 100% factual

[@AK06ApeX]

OMG thank you sooo much for this man! Ive been waiting for one these FOR SO LONG!!!

[@damaged2810]

I agree Vegeta became a SS2 during the 7 years. Majin Vegeta was just a mastered SS2

[@Geekdom101]

no such thing as Mastered SS2 form, but I know what you mean.

[@GroguDad]

He didn't want to be equal to Goku he wanted to get back to his former mentality of sayain pride

[@YoYo-qf4ud]

He litteraly said that he wanted to have be on goku's level.

[@echeverry1987]

I can say Majin Vegeta is my favorite version.

[@Deathmare235]

That’s the worst version

[@stillamitchinmybook6320]

I seriously never clicked so fast on a video!! Thank you for this vid

[@MxPotato84]

I love love love the character psychology of Vegeta, but this whole Majin thing always crushes my heart and brings me into the ugly cry. Omg!! I need more tissues!! 😭😭😭

[@jamesfinlan9141]

Awesome Video! Been a while since I watched that arc. Explanation was more then I thought at first watch

[@superpe]

"sad Vegeta I didn't think you were weak enough to get controlled" Goku haha Funimation dub goat

[@danielscutaru6682]

Goku called Vegeta weak? LOL

[@maximusmech9]

"I was the PERFECT Saiyan ruler! Cold and ruthless! Uninhibited by foolish emotion..."

[@carrot7215]

Open up ur mangas to chapter... Sounds like a church 😂😂😂😂

[@justpyro3136]

Normal DB fan: My favorite move is the kamehameha Me: *Final Explosion*

[@andyfiggz305]

Meh. Now, HELLZONE GRENADE!!

[@MsDBZbabe]

Man, who’s that crazy Vegeta fangirl in the beginning 🤣

[@lukejones7164]

Lmao

[@broskirow2980]

That girl in the beginning fine a’f

[@NeoConker626]

Love your Vegeta breakdowns bro!