Turning a Viewer’s Roots-Style Fan Concept into a Performance Beast! | Fan Showdown S6 REMIX

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Major Hardware

Major Hardware

Күн бұрын

In this episode of the Fan Showdown, we're tackling a unique challenge. While every design we receive is impressive, not all of them turn out as expected. This time, however, we're determined to change that.
When Jagsnd submitted their fan design, “The Pump,” I was immediately intrigued. I knew it would face a tough journey to function properly, but I decided to give it a shot anyway. After printing, it quickly became clear that the fan wasn’t quite working as intended.
But instead of giving up, we’re trying something new! In this episode, we’re doing a remix. I’ve redesigned Jagsnd’s fan using parts not typically available in the Fan Showdown submissions. Join us as we explore how “The Pump” might have performed if it had worked as intended.
Don’t miss out on this creative twist in our Fan Showdown series-watch now to see the new design in action!
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@Sc1Z
@Sc1Z Ай бұрын
"this one's heavier" :D Now that you made a roots style supercharger you have to make a screw type and procharger. It's for science.
@madmod
@madmod Ай бұрын
I think he's done a few centrifugal style fans
@jonathancorbett5917
@jonathancorbett5917 Ай бұрын
He is right we do need a screw type (most commonly associated with Whipple) As they are completely different from the centrifugal "procharger" brand superchargers
@mastertryeffect
@mastertryeffect Ай бұрын
I wonder how this charger, the other one and the old E-Turbo compare to each other with a high-end brushless motor. (He already did a "procharger", hence it's the "old one") I really want to see the pressure capabilities of printed chargers
@Sc1Z
@Sc1Z Ай бұрын
@@madmod he has, but not with that same motor.
@fortyfukinseven
@fortyfukinseven Ай бұрын
He did the "turbo" supercharger (procharger) already
@H34...
@H34... Ай бұрын
The spacer you added between the blower and the window cover to compensate for the thickness of the gasket creates space for air to bypass the blower, so you're losing performance there. You need a tight gap axially between the front and back faces of the blowers and the case, not just radially around the outer edge.
@mellhole
@mellhole Ай бұрын
Bump
@cannesahs
@cannesahs Ай бұрын
I was going to write this.
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust Ай бұрын
yep, you need the front and back of the rotors to be super close to the edge
@studd7575
@studd7575 Ай бұрын
+1 for this. The first thing i thought of when he added the spacers. This needs to be corected and tested again. You definatly loose some pressure there.
@storkbreath
@storkbreath Ай бұрын
​@@cannesahs I did write it all out again and then I saw the comment was already there. 😅
@sheldonhall4572
@sheldonhall4572 Ай бұрын
You should make this its own sub-series for 'Fan-Showdown' videos. You can call it 'Fan-gineering' where the whole premise is to take failed attempts of previous competitors and re-engineering their fan design to create a 'best case scenario' if the concept of their idea could actually work. Kinda like a Mythbusters episode, taking the concept of the myth with the premise to prove or disprove their validity by replicating the intended results either by natural chance or by excessively manipulating the circumstantial factors to make it happen.
@OmegaBlack999
@OmegaBlack999 Ай бұрын
I second this
@3v068
@3v068 29 күн бұрын
Third this! This would be awesome!
@nanaki-seto
@nanaki-seto 5 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing no holds bared with and upper rpm limit for the air moving compressing part say 5 to 10k rpm max speed but everything else is fair game even multiple motors for multiple stages of compression.
@chevydavidson9220
@chevydavidson9220 2 күн бұрын
Love the name
@Pyroteknikid
@Pyroteknikid Ай бұрын
Put graphite on the gears...less noisey and more spinny.
@Groovewonder2
@Groovewonder2 Ай бұрын
Could also sprinkle some graphite powder into the chamber so surfaces inside are lubricated too
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Ай бұрын
dry teflon spray. graphite is nasty going everywhere on electronics.
@glenmcgillivray4707
@glenmcgillivray4707 Ай бұрын
Graphite is harder than the gears, it's not the right lube for plastics.
@Vaporfry
@Vaporfry Ай бұрын
Also frequently overlooked is tooth size, smaller is quieter.
@joaomrtins
@joaomrtins Ай бұрын
​​@@lasskinn474 which he already used 6:35
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 Ай бұрын
btw, sewing machine oil is friggin amazing for reducing friction(for the open bearings) with just a couple drops and isn't effected by high heat. edit: amazing design and surprised it worked so well. thought it would have trouble with the back pressure and start fighting the motor.
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 Ай бұрын
grease the lobes too with it, it doesnt have to last very long
@szurketaltos2693
@szurketaltos2693 Ай бұрын
@david -- maybe print the lobes out of a harder TPU verrrry slightly oversized? But the friction losses may make that a bad idea.
@brucepreston3927
@brucepreston3927 Ай бұрын
I use Lew's fishing reel oil...It is incredibly thin and works great for bearings and other stuff that isn't going to be spinning for long periods of time...
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 Ай бұрын
Glad to see a fellow sewing machine oil believer. It is my go-to generic lubrication. Unless the equipment needs very specific lube then sewing machine oil most likely will do it. It is made for sliding and spinning things and finely meshing gears. It also has good wetting properties, it stays on as a thin film for a LONG time. Doesn't have any particles, like for ex PTFE lubes have. It is wonderful stuff. It was in my childhood always there, my grandpa repaired sewing machines so it kind of became the "family lube", no puns for fucks sake intended.. Another that works well and even works well with sewing machine oil is.. good old vaseline. You can create the film with vaseline and then thin it with SM oil (no puns..) to get really good stay with good viscosity, But also: if the application needs special lube.. don't use SM oil.... i've learned that too, it is not good for absolutely everything, like high heat: it ain't good at that.. Things need to stay below 150C, which isn't that big of a limitation.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce Ай бұрын
This.
@asteliaz
@asteliaz Ай бұрын
I think removing grease from bearings is fine, but maybe look at using ceramic oil used for skate bearings instead :)
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust Ай бұрын
thats what i was thinking, like a gun oil or skate oil type of thing. thinner but still handles the loads and speeds
@jttech44
@jttech44 Ай бұрын
@@ghomerhust it doesn't really need to handle any load, so even skate oil will end up too viscus. For this application you really want something as thin as possible and only if you're going to run it long term.
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 Ай бұрын
Use use break cleaner and remove all of it. They will spin better and longer. They will wear out faster but this won't be used often.
@ratgreen
@ratgreen Ай бұрын
Fully ceramic bearings with no grease would be even better
@sk8r4lf138
@sk8r4lf138 Ай бұрын
​@@ratgreenthat's more like it, ceramic balls and races.
@GooseGosselin
@GooseGosselin Ай бұрын
Maybe the fan showdown could be expanded to allow dual motors / fans? Awesome print btw, hope it goes on display.
@crashnburn2351
@crashnburn2351 Ай бұрын
I agree with this. Then it could have 1 lobe set powered from the back and the other from the front. This would make the only use of the gears to be keeping the timing.
@NovaDragon
@NovaDragon Ай бұрын
Fully agree, then you can have two leader boards for people to work towards!
@LeeMooEez
@LeeMooEez Ай бұрын
Vote up! But within another category haha
@benjenkinson1470
@benjenkinson1470 Ай бұрын
Was going to say the exact same thing. Allows for two bearing for each lobe, geardrive would still suck some power but as both lobes would be powered it be 1/4 - 1/2 (?) as much
@hypertion
@hypertion Ай бұрын
Season with multiple hub or a larger motor would be amazing
@matthewnardin7304
@matthewnardin7304 Ай бұрын
The limits that the fan showdown is constrained by is what makes this series so interesting. That being said, it wouldn't be less interesting if the motor limit was removed or at least modified by allowing something a bit more torquey.
@TexMexJoe
@TexMexJoe Ай бұрын
This is a really cool concept, the lobes could have been printed in primary colors so when they spin the middle combines them into their complimentary colors.
@OmegaBlack999
@OmegaBlack999 Ай бұрын
Great suggestion
@technicbuilder6410
@technicbuilder6410 Ай бұрын
With positive displacement pumps, static pressure depends mostly on how airtight the pump is.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck Ай бұрын
As a thorough engine head, I can tell you the roots pushes air around the outside of the case (why the smoke show was unexciting) and was actually originally designed to ventilate mines and blow air into forges. Also I unironically want this on my computer but I'd definitely have to put some kind of temp switch on it for the noise, so it only kicks on when I absolutely need it. Could I possibly get the STL files?
@theelmonk
@theelmonk 5 күн бұрын
Maybe use rubber belts instead of gears to reduce the noise ?
@chriscollins1624
@chriscollins1624 Ай бұрын
The giggle when it jumped to 13 the first time got me, I LOL’d as well.
@markcahalan5698
@markcahalan5698 Ай бұрын
So.... next season is water cooling pumps? Or wait! Let's go full circle with this You water cooled an air cooler Now it's time to pump air through a water block
@hueyflipside5001
@hueyflipside5001 Ай бұрын
If you pump strong enough you can even heat up the system!)
@eom1682
@eom1682 Ай бұрын
Make fan shaped pumps. Dunno about the torque, would probably need a lot.
@markcahalan5698
@markcahalan5698 Ай бұрын
Oh, and water cool the radiator - FROM THE OUTSIDE
@dickinaround87
@dickinaround87 Ай бұрын
Just hook up a 3/4 ton water source heat pump and install a ground water loop in your backyard
@VinayVarsani
@VinayVarsani Ай бұрын
I like the idea of the next season being maybe a silent motor and then no limitations fan designs!
@karsh001
@karsh001 Ай бұрын
I reall love fan showdown. Let us all appreciate for a moment that a wonky fan vid got over 31k views in just 14h. Keep up the good work!
@blackmoon8459
@blackmoon8459 Ай бұрын
Regardless of the actual fan performance, that thing is just hypnotizing to watch run. If there were a way to make it quieter and be even better, but as it stands, it’s still absolutely incredible to watch.
@OmegaBlack999
@OmegaBlack999 Ай бұрын
I want him to belt drive them.. that would make them so quiet and run smoothly.
@ramair325
@ramair325 Ай бұрын
ya DONT USE STRAIT CUT GEARS lol.
@Maccaroney
@Maccaroney Ай бұрын
I think i speak for all of us that we want to see you build a PC utilizing a bunch of these crazy fans! Would be cool to get some case temps and stuff for the video and obviously flow smoke through it.
@esteva03
@esteva03 Ай бұрын
11:39 ooohhh baby... that fade in of the most chill/epic music in the whole KZbin universe is what I come for every time. Turutututuuuuu tutuuuutu turututuruuuu!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@syx3s
@syx3s Ай бұрын
maybe try oiling the gears bearings / axels. might make it a bit more quiet. the wait was worth it imo btw.
@reverse_engineered
@reverse_engineered Ай бұрын
Very cool! If nothing else, you demonstrated a lot of good tricks for improving performance and making it easier to assemble. I thought the smoke test still looked great, even if you couldn't see the smoke inside the chamber. Seeing it flow cleanly into the top and slowly building as it spread out the bottom was almost cinematic. Good work!
@ChrisGVE
@ChrisGVE Ай бұрын
You sound more and more like Mythbuster: busted but what would be needed for it to work. Awesome man! And glad to see you back!
@Alexandra-Rex
@Alexandra-Rex Ай бұрын
I must admit. I did not expect anything near that. Not at all, actually. Very impressed!
@BigTraylb
@BigTraylb 25 күн бұрын
The rabbit hole you went down for this was DEEEP 🤣🤣🤣 Great job. I love the channel
@Nobe_Oddy
@Nobe_Oddy Ай бұрын
YOU TOOK MY IDEA!!! lol jk That was AWESOME!!! THANK YOU for doing that build.. it was WAY COOLER than I expected!!! GREAT IDEA JAG!!!
@Dracounguis
@Dracounguis Ай бұрын
So this is like the 6 million dollar man version. We can rebuild it! We can make it better! 😆
@coolguy2084
@coolguy2084 Ай бұрын
2:48 how it feels to turn on your PC at night when your parents are sleeping
@KeithSkates
@KeithSkates 26 күн бұрын
6:09 This is why next time, maybe try using skateboard bearings. They're designed specifically for speed and smooth operation. Also, they're 608 bearings so they have very common measurements.
@Groovewonder2
@Groovewonder2 Ай бұрын
I think it'd be cool if you attached a low-speed motor to that and just had it slowly twirling in the background of videos. Maybe just a little pwm controllable one with just enough torque to kick it off and then cap it at a lower speed once it's going. Could put some RGB in there too. Really gamer-ify it up.
@WhiteG60
@WhiteG60 Ай бұрын
I bet if you stuck some like, Lucas red N tacky grease on the lobes you'd get even more performance and a lot less noise. Just kinda seal it up a bit by 'simulating' apex strips.
@Rubmaster
@Rubmaster 17 күн бұрын
That window joke paired with the synth song made me chuckle 😂 now every time im watching through a window that song will ple playing in my head 😂
@timbrown9305
@timbrown9305 5 күн бұрын
Straightening vanes are great. They need to have a slight curve into the flow to receive the air initially... they should immediately start turning that air in the desired direction greatly reducing eddy currents that will disrupt airflow if you only make them straight. I worked for a fan design company and this was an addition we put on inline axial fans to increase their static pressure ability.
@jhonbus
@jhonbus Күн бұрын
Yep, they do make a big difference to efficiency and static pressure. They tend to add a lot of noise though, I guess that's why we don't usually see them on PC fans!
@the_ure
@the_ure Ай бұрын
Roots blowers by roots brothers were originally air pumps for forges, supercharging was derivative of those
@Jay_the_Caffeinator
@Jay_the_Caffeinator Ай бұрын
This was amazing!! Most of the machinery I have been around for work are both positive displacement and centrifugal pumps. As others have said, we are getting into the supercharger and turbo fans/pumps of the show. I should build a fan that is like the turbine engines we use on aircraft carriers. One, day!!!! Caffeinator, out.
@jonathancorbett5917
@jonathancorbett5917 Ай бұрын
So really theoretically you could print a 1 inch by 1 inch (or smaller) roots blower and a gear reduction on the a12x25 and it would make pressure very slowly (provided no leaks
@eom1682
@eom1682 Ай бұрын
I know high viscosity micropumps work exactly like this. They are just two rotating gears inside a small capsule wich you connect to the plumbing. I think they are generally used for constantly, slowly pushing grease into the port of big machines to reduce maintenance work.
@classicbandgeek
@classicbandgeek Ай бұрын
I hope that during the next seasons of the showdown we get an 'Assembly' category or Open Division separate from the hub/frame based designs from what I feel was the showdown's original intent. Not denigrating people's crazy constructions, I think it's WILD! But I'd like to see what an end user could realistically install inside their machine in lieu of a factory fan.
@willgallatin2802
@willgallatin2802 Ай бұрын
Not bad, given the massively wide gaps involved. I'm not sure how long it would last, but it is darn fun.
@Flippy2k6
@Flippy2k6 Ай бұрын
Smoke test wasn't a miss, it was spot on, you could see it being sucked into the blower at the top and being blasted out the bottom. That is bad ass, shame about the noise though.
@prjndigo
@prjndigo Ай бұрын
You been watching the channel doing the boat propellers?
@ThunderClawShocktrix
@ThunderClawShocktrix Ай бұрын
there is channel doing that?
@TheRattleSnake3145
@TheRattleSnake3145 Ай бұрын
​@@ThunderClawShocktrix rctestflight.
@protator
@protator 4 күн бұрын
That 'gasket' is killing whatever performance this design could have. It creates a gap between the lobes and the side wall/ window that shouldn't be there for this design to work properly.
@johnporterfield4577
@johnporterfield4577 4 күн бұрын
Lobe pumps are used a lot in food processing, I work in an ice cream plant and all of the ice cream freezers use them, so do the revel pumps and our fudge pump. Those suckers can pop a quarter inch thick hose with the pressure they can push. Granted your version could use some revisions to tighten the gap between each rotor and between the rotors and the sides of the enclosure.
@ningen1980
@ningen1980 Ай бұрын
Awesome concept. There are a few ways to cut down on noise, too. One would be to use helical gears with a cover over them and a small bit of oil. A performance boosted would be felt gasket material for apex seals on the lobes. Or UHMW plastic and a coating of the Silicone-Teflon spray.
@gerthddyn
@gerthddyn Ай бұрын
I've seen several performance and noise improvement suggestions. I would love to see all of these.
@allthejars5664
@allthejars5664 Ай бұрын
This was a fun rabbit hole.
@michiganengineer8621
@michiganengineer8621 Ай бұрын
I wonder if adding a thin flexible "spline" along the flats and the lobe ends would increase the static pressure even more. As another commenter said, finer teeth on the gears would help decrease the noise level, or even going to a belt drive between the two yellow gears.
@OmegaBlack999
@OmegaBlack999 Ай бұрын
Belt drive ftw. And tighten up the tolerances inside to eliminate gaps for improved performance. And the smooth delivery of power through quiet belts.. Yes...
@superpandabacon
@superpandabacon Ай бұрын
That looks sick! Perfect colors for visuals as well
@tdnichols1950
@tdnichols1950 Ай бұрын
1/3 the way into this vid, and absolutely the reason we watch.
@tdnichols1950
@tdnichols1950 Ай бұрын
well done. TY
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep
@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep Ай бұрын
Really? This is the most inefficient fan I have seen yet?!¡ And I turbocharge cars for a living¡
@jtm94
@jtm94 Ай бұрын
That was far better performing than I expected.
@Integr8d
@Integr8d 7 күн бұрын
Funny. I was in the same place about 6 months ago. Same motors. Same power supplies. Design in fusion. 3D printed (and desktop CNC’d!). In my case, it was a very cool knife sharpener… I feel like I’m watching myself lol
@yngndrw.
@yngndrw. Ай бұрын
This is the over-engineering that we signed up for! It would be interesting to see a comparison of the performance per watt.
@Mark_Williams.
@Mark_Williams. Ай бұрын
8:47 - That edit cut was epic! :D
@IdiocracyIsAProphecy
@IdiocracyIsAProphecy 28 күн бұрын
I love it. I'd love to see a separate bracket for these kinds of designs.
@gadgetdeez7069
@gadgetdeez7069 Ай бұрын
If you tighten up your rotor end clearances to the cover/case (you could do this by omitting the gaskets all together and using a thin layer of silicone to seal the cover), you could easily double or even quadruple that number. Positive displacement superchargers are capable of massive pressures if you keep tight clearances.
@Reddotzebra
@Reddotzebra Ай бұрын
That thing looks similar in nature to the persitaltic pumps we use in lab and medical equipment, except with a bigger displacement and without the hoses. The issue with these, aside from the hoses which need replacement and sometimes need to be speciality models coated with platinum, is that if you don't use tubes to contain the gas or fluid you pump through it, they need to be super low tolerance to not leak.
@Barrett_Fodder
@Barrett_Fodder 28 күн бұрын
I recommend a bit of machine oil (sewing machine, 0w, etc..) on the bearings, then a bit of ultralight lithium grease on the lobes (Tetra gun grease would work well and it's slick and clean to apply). You could mix hexagonal boron nitride HBN with either or both for a film that would remain even as oil moved off or evaporated. You could enclose the gear drive assembly (make it a window of course) and set it up to where there was a small oil bath pit in the bottom that allows part of the lobe mounted gears to "splash" the oil across the other components in the same way many lawn mowers and small 4 stroke engines do. I think that would quiet it down some, would tighten up the lobe tolerances a bit, and maybe even add a couple hundred rpm to the speed.
@snakezdewiggle6084
@snakezdewiggle6084 29 күн бұрын
What makes Roots is the Twist in the rotors.!
@scootertrashtx
@scootertrashtx Ай бұрын
Graphite on bearings. Angle cut gears would run way quieter, transfer load more efficiently. Perhaps a belt drive? That would eliminate the gear chatter altogether. Side clearance matters. There was no doubt it would work... Like you said, it's a supercharger. That was AWESOME! Thanks for sharing!
@TheSkubna
@TheSkubna Ай бұрын
Glad you put a thin oil on the bearings, as they turn without any lubricant, but they will get louder, and increase friction as it heats up
@koldphuzhun
@koldphuzhun Ай бұрын
I know straight cut gears are easier to find. But if you can print slant cut gears, they'll be much quieter. And some kind of graphite, moly or Teflon lube in tiny amounts will help it spin freely. My guess is the pressure died off because of gear mesh issues. Also, an option to seal the front better is to make the front out of the acrylic sheet and then mount your bearings to the outside using tapered screws from the inside to hold them. Then the whole sealing surface is flat, uninterrupted and within a much tighter tolerance to the lobes. Way cool results though! Maybe I can supercharge my lawnmower...
@Benjamin_Reese
@Benjamin_Reese Ай бұрын
It's DIY Fan Showdown. . . Build Your Own, No Limits Fan Showdown. . . maybe a few limits. . . the "Less Limits Fan Showdown"
@numbnutz9398
@numbnutz9398 29 күн бұрын
As others have mentioned, a light oil would work wonders on the bearings, but helical gears will be a lot quieter.
@dflemstr
@dflemstr Ай бұрын
Consider using timing belts instead of gears for the gearbox, to reduce friction and noise by a lot. The Voron 2.4 Z-axis gearbox gives a 4:1 (or 1:4) ratio, uses high-speed bearings throughout, and can easily be "borrowed" for this design.
@bo-dine7971
@bo-dine7971 Ай бұрын
In the automotive world people are usually told Superchargers are inefficient & draw engine power when turbos do not, but in reality not only do they create boost throughout the entire RPM range they also require good planning to be working in an efficient boost range for a specific engine. Most supercharged engines people make are just some V8 they slap an old Detroit Diesel supercharger on without much thought into the drive ratio; those superchargers aren't meant to create ANY boost at all as they are just meant to make a 2-stroke cylinder flow so the start of the build is already no good but fun for Hot-Rodding! When designed correctly and for the right engine even the most basic Supercharger, a 2-love Roots which you have here, can create better performance & even efficiency than a Turbo and Centrifugal Superchargers are just the cold end of a Turbo pretty much so they have the same efficiency or better (depending on rotor design) but tap power from a different source. I know this isn't super related to the video but I just wanted to let people know a bit more about a device most think is just antiquated & inefficient, even your test shows they are capable & you're using pretty much the worst type, a short 2-lobe Roots.
@volvo245
@volvo245 Ай бұрын
I made a wind powered spinning cap for an air vent 4 years ago, it has two 10*30*9 bearings with all the grease removed and replaced with thin coat of gun oil. Its still spinning like new after four years with zero maintenance. Ball bearings really don't need much lubrication if the loads are minimal.
@bohba13
@bohba13 Ай бұрын
so. several improvements, some of the comments, use graphite or sewing machine oil to lube the barrings, use ring gaskets on the shafts to prevent bypass, and use helical gears to reduce gear noise. (as well as using a different material to avoid the 3d print rub sound)
@carly09et
@carly09et Ай бұрын
Nice 'out of the box' idea - I will keep watching to see were it goes. Lots of resonance with automotive designs.
@jeremyroberts2782
@jeremyroberts2782 23 күн бұрын
One thing i would like to see is a quick comparison between 120 and 140 fans, particularly how much more air or static pressure you can get from the wider fans.
@Benjamin_Reese
@Benjamin_Reese Ай бұрын
You're back!! This was a fun video.
@ERDesertFox
@ERDesertFox Ай бұрын
Honest to god, did not think it was gonna work well, saw that 14 pop up and my eyes bugged. that was awesome
@cgwworldministries83
@cgwworldministries83 21 күн бұрын
It would make a really good water pump. Next thing you need to invent, 3d printed water pumps for PC coolers. Fans are so overplayed. I think it's time for you to graduate to water pumps!
@yunodiewtf
@yunodiewtf Ай бұрын
You know what would be full brutal? Using two individual fan motors and trying to electronically synchronize them. Can you imagine the amount of precise position sensors and microcontroller programming required?
@fishyerik
@fishyerik Ай бұрын
Looks really good! Personally I'm not too impressed by the performance, I'm also not surprised that you got it to work, with a much more powerful motor. Positive displacement pumps has a huge advantage over fans, when it comes to static pressure, even at the same amount of power. But again, it looks really good, and it's definitely great for showing the working principle of a roots blower. If you can get it reasonably quiet, even if that requires running it at very low rpm, it should be great for decoration.
@Vtarngpb
@Vtarngpb Ай бұрын
6:42 i would’ve used CLP… or maybe ballistol 😂
@TurboVisBits
@TurboVisBits Ай бұрын
I am so invested in fans that ill never use.. lol
@fixyourautomobile
@fixyourautomobile Ай бұрын
Roots blowers are great. GM 4-71 Blower on my daily. Love the sound.
@iCantEscapeYou
@iCantEscapeYou Ай бұрын
Mythbusters did this if a myth failed to be true. A no holds barred what would it take to make the myth happen. That's the same energy of this episode
@soopersooper3291
@soopersooper3291 Ай бұрын
I had a watercooled setup with an automotive radiator and fan in a shrouded box, that was very loud, but the radiator was so big it could run completely passive with two GPUs in the loop.
@HelloKittyFanMan
@HelloKittyFanMan Ай бұрын
Of course you have a reason; everything has a reason. Welcome "back"!
@zerumsum1640
@zerumsum1640 Ай бұрын
you could probably eke another couple mmH2O out of that design by tightening up the gap between the rotors, as well as the gaps between the rotors and housing. Maybe look at doing something similar to the wipers used in commercial designs, but instead of having full contact (as getting the surface finish on PLA to the standard that requires is not happening...) you have a T slot at the apex of each lobe withe the bottom of the T pointing straight out from the center of the rotor. This way, the same way you can slot bolts into the channels in extrusions, you can use a TPU wiper printed so it almost makes contact. since the wiper would be removeable, you can just swap it for a longer or shorter one to check different gaps. Alternatively, you can try using other materials like paper or cardstock which may work for a full contact design. of course, that all depends on if you want to optimize the design.
@andrewmartino6144
@andrewmartino6144 Ай бұрын
That looks a lot like a liquid pump that they use at food plants... probably why it did so well! For example I have seen them pump Lip Balm... and guacamole!
@MsLoneWolf4
@MsLoneWolf4 Ай бұрын
As some as stated about lubrication on the gears, a looser mesh would lower noise but quicker wear. Also try making gears not straight cut as they are loudest kind.
@carlubambi5541
@carlubambi5541 Ай бұрын
One step at a time. Leaf blowers and pool inflate work as well
@BlackHoleForge
@BlackHoleForge Ай бұрын
Please for the love of hearing, place a small amount of lubricant on the gears. It not only helps with the chatter, but makes the reading be more consistent. Awesome Idea, thanks for showing.
@DukeLP
@DukeLP Ай бұрын
would be cool to see a gearing that ramps up the gear ratio more, and some kind of gear/motor enclosure to hold everything and hopefully the noise in. Interested to see how far this can be taken with some more tweaks.
@Donder1337
@Donder1337 Ай бұрын
This was really good! Thx for your golden Time of Life (K)
@theputnamto3468
@theputnamto3468 21 күн бұрын
when you struggled with the spline on the pink one, right as you zoomed and as soon as it started to slot it jumped to an ad
@johndough8115
@johndough8115 Ай бұрын
Use "3-IN-One" oil, for bearings that you want to be light, fast, and still decently protected
@matermsalpha
@matermsalpha Ай бұрын
You could make a Fan-Showdown-Extreme series out of it, with a defined powerfull motor instead of a fan motor ;) And to get rid of most of the noise and optentially some of the gear losses I would consider a timing belt.
@falihrahmandha364
@falihrahmandha364 Ай бұрын
Turbo guy its your time to shine
@cullenchase9161
@cullenchase9161 Ай бұрын
Adding some lithium grease onto the pla gears can make them both more efficient and a ton quieter. I did this for a water pump contest in one of my freshman engineering classes and it got us something like 40% more water from the same current draw on the motor
@werewolf74
@werewolf74 Ай бұрын
between the gears and the body you could put some type 2 plastic (like a milk jug), or at least a washer of... to make it spin smoother.
@justmeva
@justmeva Ай бұрын
Nice Frankenstein invention. The doctor would be proud of you for bringing this thing to life.
@trentoncarr
@trentoncarr Ай бұрын
Adapting this to a Vane pump would do even better.
@stefanwaterbouwer8139
@stefanwaterbouwer8139 Ай бұрын
Seeing this, well air-compressor you could call it I guess, creates mostly pressure, perhaps it could be used to move air via Bernoulli effect, i.e. shoot output air from a nozzle through a duct and get air flowing that way? A bit like these "bladeless" fans. That may give nicer visuals for the smoke test as well.
@YCbCr
@YCbCr Ай бұрын
The purpose of the window. Of course! :D
@SiganQ
@SiganQ Ай бұрын
Now what would be nice is if you did a scale model of the A12X25 to fit that motor. That way, we can see if the design is even worth pursuing. It definitely produces more pressure, but it's got a stronger motor. Does it produce more pressure than a comparable fan could? So we either need to see a design like this one that works on the A12X25 motor - maybe just a smaller scale of everything - or a larger scale fan-style comparable to what the Noctua people could do if they were using an engine with that kind of torque
@tom23rd
@tom23rd Ай бұрын
Wow. Just wow. 😅 I'm glad I'm not the only one that goes a little nuts on projects sometimes ❤ this was super entertaining and worth it dude
@ikinser82
@ikinser82 Ай бұрын
Gonna need a super highspeed slow motion camera to really show off the smoke test for this one. ... Time to call The SlowMo Guys?
@Burgo361
@Burgo361 3 күн бұрын
This would be really cool for a custom engine themed computer build
@Lorofol
@Lorofol Ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see you redo the list sorted by performance per watt and find out who comes out on top given the same input power.
@Inthevoid_115
@Inthevoid_115 21 күн бұрын
If you were ever going to use bearings for any other projects I would suggest the Bones speedcream 1 to 2 drops might help the Performance over longer duration tests
@nickhaddon538
@nickhaddon538 Ай бұрын
So glad you are back, I was craving more fan content.
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