MAKE 500HP OR MORE on a Pentastar V6 | HELLCAT HUNTER | MOPAR WARS EP2 | Ripp Supercharger |

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450whp 2011 Charger V6 Supercharger dyno: • RIPP Supercharged 3.6 ...
11 second 1/4 mile Sprintex S/C V6 Challenger :
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[@ModstarzOfficial]

NOTE: The headers I mention from BBK are for the 2009-2010 model v6 cars. I am aware many are confused as they have the newer models that have the exhaust manifold casted to the head. I apologize for any confusion

[@nacuda9]

We want to see this in real time. Anyone can say do this and that and presto. Just saying bud. Sounds like the Hurricane is the one though. Inline six.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@nacuda9 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoSclWakqM1ojpIsi=5KHZlZnkjJnzdkR8 Not mine but I hope this gives insight. It was done 4 years ago and the mod list is included.

[@darrensawatzky3855]

I was just coming here to say that they have a big hole on the side that looks like you can bolt up a turbo to

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@darrensawatzky3855 That would be cool to see

[@darrensawatzky3855]

@@ModstarzOfficial yeah, I've always thought of that. both sides two turbos exhausting out of two holes in the hood

[@elevon2075]

Good video man, I got a hemi and vq but keep giving support to the pentastar boys! Too much civil war in the mopar community

[@ModstarzOfficial]

You are a real one thank you 🙏🏾. I am subscribed! Episode 3 is for the 5.7 hemi stay tuned for that.

[@khemchee4685]

Don’t no one drive more aggressive than a dude in the v6

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@khemchee4685 That is 100% facts!!

[@TommyNeSmith-h7g]

Except a single mom in an Altima

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@ You ain’t lying.

[@alexy.9306]

Cheapest hemi on the market is the 05-10 Chrysler 300c for anyone who wants to consider v6 builds

[@ModstarzOfficial]

This is true

[@HolySpirit_7744]

V8 builds you meant 300c all have v8s 300 base and oger trims don't

[@lee300pentastar]

One thing you can do is also go forged internals after the forced induction & e85 ... some good tune sauce i can def see a v6 gettin at least some time at 600rwhp before exploding

[@smokeysmishaps4214]

The forged kit for jeeps prolly would work for our motors in the cars. Just would have to change the tune in the computer in my assumption to get everything running smooth.

[@FranciscoHernandez-dq7rf]

I think 500 solid power too much it’s asking for trouble the engine it’s weak in the cylinder walls would not hold too much pressure even with forged internals just anything under 20 psi would be safe like 14-16 would be enough then with that power you have to upgrade your transmission the 2012 to 2014 has the nag1 solid transmission an hold up to 500 whp the new ones for 2015 and up a bit weakers

[@ramonv2466]

It’s all fun and games until the 5.7 gets a supercharger then whose laughing me because I can’t afford either 😭🤣🤣

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I think we can all agree on both of your points there but we will get there👍🏾 work smart and work hard, save and invest.

[@camille5553]

yeesss true but the 3.6 is all aluminum and weight distribution is better

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@camille5553 I appreciate your comments on this topic. Do you own a v6 as well?

[@camille5553]

yes i do i drag it and i do circle track. my v6 gt handled better than my hemi powered 300 s on circle track

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@camille5553 Very cool and that makes sense. What is your best time in 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile?

[@nyplantings2420]

Good points. The awd setups are highly underrated imo too. I have a redeye but truth be told I really want an awd platform Challenger!

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Thank you for joining the conversation. I wonder if the transfer case of am SRT jeep or any other AWD components will fit to make that happen for you.

[@timtbone8187]

I truly haven’t regretted it. Things a tank!

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@timtbone8187 sweet!

[@adrianmckee9452]

i have a 2014 dodge charger rt awd not the police ones the civilian one try to find one of those they are beasts

[@ahmindamon]

Appreciate this, I have the v6 and everyday I'm debating getting that ripp kit

[@ModstarzOfficial]

If you can do it and your car is in good condition it seems like a good deal. The reviews I’ve seen so far are all good ,even with little hiccups for one person they are simple and they love the kit. Just be sure to plan your build for what you want and go from there. 👍🏾 keep me posted.

[@ahmindamon]

Also I see u said something about headers, from my research I thought it wasn't possible to get new headers on the 3.6 ....id love to add them to get that choppy sound and some gains but i was told the manifold is not made to do it? Idk...hope that info is wrong

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@ahmindamon what year and model do you have ?

[@ahmindamon]

@@ModstarzOfficial 2011 v6 base

[@ahmindamon]

@@ModstarzOfficial so far i have a gt momentum cai, and a 93 Diablo tune.... looking to do throttle body and maybe Corsa exhaust next.

[@VchaosTheoryV]

If you care about speed then it'll be a ScatPack chaser but no Hellcat hunter. The enthusiasts like myself don't care so much for speed as the V8 sound. So, to each their own.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

This is one of the most honest and mature comments I’ve gotten. Much respect . 💯

[@gusseted-view4034]

Speaking facts I'm pushing 380 simple bolt on and a tune next step is a big turbo or ripp supercharger

[@ModstarzOfficial]

That is awesome and you are probably the first to do this! Feel free to share a dyno video if you'd like.

[@EnriqueZenteno-e9j]

Hi bro, I bought a challenger with that kit and that engine at a copart, my question is what spark plugs and oil can I put in it? Or do I put the original Mopar ones? Excellent video bro

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@EnriqueZenteno-e9j Here are the links for the plugs and supercharger oil . I also included an all in one link for convenience.Be sure to get the computer from the car as well . If it had this kit than it was tuned. rippmods.com/products/ngk-laser-iridium-spark-plugs?_pos=1&_psq=ngk+laser+iri&_ss=e&_v=1.0 rippmods.com/products/vortech-v3-blower-oil-three-pack-4-oz-bottles?_pos=2&_psq=supercharger+oil&_ss=e&_v=1.0 rippmods.com/products/v6-tune-up-kit?_pos=1&_psq=superchar&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@ModstarzOfficial]

QUICK UPDATE : I forgot to mention the 3.09 lsd and differential brace if you are going to do a build like this. Overall if your goal is to have better acceleration the go to upgrade is the 3.09 diff if you do not already have it.

[@Gh0stMav]

I have the awd 3.6l... Know of anything else I may need? Especially to support the hp gain

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@Gh0stMav What are your goals? And what is your budget?

[@jimbird4649]

Whats available for the awd

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jimbird4649 The same things mentioned in the video

[@kelo1886]

Dope vid!! Question is the 3.09 diff compatible with AWD?

[@nathongisme5688]

what are the engine internals you would need to be able to handle the supper charger?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@nathongisme5688 The kit is low boost around 8 psi, which a healthy stock block should be able to handle. I would get an oil catch can as well, and if you wanted to improve the durability of this set up either a water methanol kit or flex fuel would do. And of course tuning may have to be done to accommodate either. The good thing is the supercharger includes tuning, but if you’re going to run flex fuel or a water methanol injection then additional tuning might be required.

[@jamesbonds1903]

Just made me love my care all over again!!!!!

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jamesbonds1903 awesome.

[@DaMarcusCoxII]

Here for it, I have a 2018 Charger GT Plus looking to ramp it up a bit but not sure all the things I need to do. Mind giving me a layout?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@DaMarcusCoxII Will do. What’s your goal and budget?

[@billywest8451]

Hell yeah. I’m glad you’re talking about it.

[@ryananderson5292]

I am honestly considering doing a ripp supercharger kit to my 2014 Grand Caravan. Ive never seen it done and it would be hella fun imo

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@ryananderson5292 Neither have I. That would be cool.

[@RareAirTwo4]

So if I were to add a RIPP supercharger to my V6 Challenger thats straight piped, with a cold air intake i can get 500 hp?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I’m not sure how much extra it would make straight piped but if you were to gain it would be closer.

[@MrMr2626]

Straight pipe you lose hp because of exhaust back pressure with most cars

[@RareAirTwo4]

@@MrMr2626 I noticed that acceleration feels sluggish after the straight pipe. I'm considering an exhaust system.

[@MrMr2626]

@@RareAirTwo4 definitely will help with the right one

[@jwatt247]

Idk dawg those I would be worried about reliability wouldn't you have to get into internals??

[@ModstarzOfficial]

From my understanding these kits are low boost (no more than 8psi) if they are more than that then perhaps one would have to upgrade internals or run a water methanol injection. Flex Fuel may be another option as it is alcohol and can be used as a cooling agent among other things. From a convenience stand point one could do that. However, there are quite a few individuals running this kit on daily drivers. I do not know of many who have upgraded to the extent of the video I have made but the few that have are running stock internals as well. Depends on goals, budget, and how you drive and take care of what you have. If you have not seen the video I linked in the description on the sprintex challenger running 11s in the 1/4 mile let me know what you think after. That one is on stock internals as well. You do make an important point on what most people do not do which is build the block of any thing now of days.

[@jwatt247]

@@ModstarzOfficial interesting and yes will do.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jwatt247 here is the video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoSclWakqM1ojpIsi=0-OuJg2BREvnERC9

[@jwatt247]

@@ModstarzOfficial impressive and sound great too.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jwatt247 I said the same thing. 👍🏾

[@TheSara200424]

Chrysler 200c awd with a3.6 is pretty much the best way to start

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@TheSara200424 Yes they are underrated in my opinion.

[@RobertPeters04]

200c S is basically like and Evo with 295 stock horsepower and all wheel drive

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@RobertPeters04 Or like a Acura TL AWD which was nick named “Evo killer” by some back in 2010.

[@speedyrasmussen3877]

Currently building one to make 600 wheel is the goal

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Awesome! Please share either progress or when the build is done🙏🏾👍🏾

[@TroyBoleyn]

What about a Pacifica Limited with a Pentastar? What can we do to make this scream?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@TroyBoleyn I believe the only thing available for the Pacifica is a tune either from Diablo sport or HP Tuners.

[@bryangreer35]

😂😂😂 won't be no hellcat hunter,it'll be pretty damn quick but no hellcat hunter!!

[@enriquec7413]

From a dig on the street yes

[@MrAnxious]

@@enriquec7413 nah man LMFAOOO

[@MrMr2626]

0to60 would be close especially if you have awd from a dig you will pull on a cat unless that driver starts in second gear as too stop wheel spin so much with the hellcat

[@bryangreer35]

He'll catch would smoke a supercharged v6 maybe short distance He'll keep up but that Kat has way more torque then that v6,nothing against v6 bc I have one myself..

[@geo0316]

@bryangreer35 i have made several changes to my v6 limited x and I make good whp and increased my torque made a few other changes and I can go toe to toe with any hellcat and if they are faster I'm always right on their bumpers

[@burkegann8572]

Can't buy headers for 3.6 manifolds are made into the heads

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@burkegann8572 For the todays yes you are right but that is not the case for the older ones. I pinned a comment explaining this in greater detail. I apologize for any confusion.

[@jfate5977]

Would you be able to help with getting 500hp to the wheels on a sprintex supercharger kit? I have a ripp 180 degree thermostat, ripp coil packs, bigger injectors and a sprintex supercharger with a professional tune

[@ModstarzOfficial]

What are your goals besides 500hp? How much Hp and torque are you at currently? Does your fuel system support flex fuel if you want to go that route? And do you have a stock motor?

[@jfate5977]

@@ModstarzOfficial I want it to hook as well, I know a rear gear at some point will need to be done, I haven’t had it on the dyno, so I can’t give exact numbers but it will keep up with a scar pack, but my engine light has been on since the supercharger install with a p0420 code

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jfate5977 Awesome. First things first take care of the p0420 make sure the catalytic converter(s) aren’t clogged or bad and the o2 sensors are good. If you are keeping up with 392s than you potentially have a car that can 12s in a 1/4 mile. For your car to hook better will come down to suspension set up and gearing like you mentioned, at which point 500hp may not be necessary especially when it hooks and shifts quicker with transmission upgrades. As far as tires go especially if this is your daily, my preference is an all season performance tire like Firestone fire hawk or Michelin pilot 4s for example .With that being said you will definitely have to upgrade the brakes as well. If you wanted to add more power after that there are a few ways to do it. 1 is a larger pulley for more boost . If I’m not mistaken Sprintex is working on a pulley larger than the 68mm pulley but that size pulley is good as well someone ran 11.8 on a v6 challenger on 93 Octane. In addition to that the blower was ported and had a larger throttle body from BBK. 2 ) you could do if you are on a stock block is a water methanol injection kit and depending on you current setup I do not know the size injectors or fuel pump your car has but if you want to run more boost that is something you might have to upgrade as well. And 3) have the cylinder heads ported tune the car ( if necessary) and you are on your way to more power and with that you may or may not have to improve your set up to accommodate for the extra power but this is a method and order or operations you can try. Definitely chat with your tuner and others who have helped you with your build. Feel free to keep me posted on this. I am really excited for you and how things go. 1) clear the code 2) brakes and suspension set up 3) transmission and rear end 4) test drive and practice with the new set up 5) optional: add more power with options mentioned above . If desired.

[@jfate5977]

@@ModstarzOfficial I definitely will, I have upgraded the brakes with ceramic pads and drilled and slotted rotors, the supercharger kit did come with bigger injectors that I installed as well, so what kind of throttle body do you recommend

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jfate5977 BBK 78mm

[@Akuma-jx8dr]

Will all of that work on my 2012 Chrysler town and country?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@Akuma-jx8dr I do not know if the supercharger will fit or if you have the same v6 as the current pentastar. What year is you van?

[@richardruscito1231]

The Pentistar is a great engine. But it is not made to handle any amount of boost. It has no forged internals and the block is an open deck design, so there is no strength at the top of the cylinders. Any boosted 3.6 is living on borrowed time. My advise, go light on the boost (6psi) and tune for e85. Then swap driveshaft and rear diff with an R/T

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Great minds think alike. I’d not ethanol than water methanol injection as mentioned in the video. I do believe there will be a point where forged internals are available even if it is a (made on demand) scenario. Then again, one could always have them custom made but that may come at some cost. I believe the supercharger is at 8 psi and there are a good amount of people running these for about a year or two from what I saw last.

[@2024hekyeah]

Based on that info. Why wouldn't you just buy a r/t or scat ? That's what I would do

[@Getyomoneyupnotyofunny]

You forgot about supporting mods like the tranny , brakes and suspension

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I mentioned transmission upgrades at the 2:40 mark. They are the same transmission upgrades that I have mentioned in previous episodes. In the 5.7 video I made along with episode 1 of this series and previous charger hemi videos I have mentioned brake and suspension upgrades as well. And they are the same chassis so charger/ challenge depending on the generations so parts will fit on either. I can include more links to those videos if you’d like? Other than the ones I have in the description.

[@darrensawatzky3855]

in Canada here we have a lot of GT which are all-wheel drive versions. those are quite fun to drive too

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Good to know and thank you Canada 🇨🇦 🍁 for the comment! 🙏🏾 How do they handle in the ice/ snow?

[@darrensawatzky3855]

@@ModstarzOfficial they were quite fun to drive. they had takeoff was really good on him. like I'm talking about the V6 versions. we had the chargers and challengers both had GTs and they were both all-wheel drive. they were really fun to drive. they weren't like swerving around the corner type stuff. they just like hooked up. really good

[@darrensawatzky3855]

@@ModstarzOfficial with nice winter tires on there they were really good

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@darrensawatzky3855 perfect! They did what they were supposed to do.

[@reinvent687]

Just heads up , for all those zfhp transmissions on v6's doesn't last long YOU WILL NEED A NEW TRANSMISSION in less than 1 year special if you going to push at max daily. Trust me I had a 2015, now a 2023 v6 durango

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Mods for the transmission are included in this video. The questions I have below are asked so I can gain depth and context to your experience. Did you run a stock transmission or any engine modifications? Was there any maintenance procedures or schedules followed? And when you say “push at max”, are you driving at wide open throttle most of the time ? Based on the premature transmission failure, was their any diagnosis on what specifically failed in the transmission?

[@jeffscott4273]

Will the transmission hold up or rear end?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jeffscott4273 Transmissions seem to do well for daily’s and if you want to race often then an upgraded differential and brace along with an aluminum driveshaft is recommended.

[@jeffscott4273]

@@ModstarzOfficial Thank you, planning on doing one more hot rod as I turn 60 next hr. V6 SC will fit the bill nicely. Concern that in S Florida they closed the PBIR (palm beach county drag strip), so would have to drag race on the track in Lakeland I believe. Hoping to drive it their , drag race with slicks and drive home but may just tow it with the truck - afraid of breaking anything with a couple hr commercial tow home ; ) Anyone ever add a small nitrous kit on top of the supercharger?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jeffscott4273 That is awesome and I am not sure if anyone has added nitrous but there have been one or two that run E-85. I imagine a nitrous kit is simpler and more affordable to set up. Also, I can send you a parts list if it helps.

[@TheKlown82]

So which is better the pentastar or hurricane v6 engine?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

The Hurricane engine looks good on paper, but then again everything does. You can find comments here saying the pentastar is not worth modifying but I and many others have shown otherwise. We will have to wait and see what the obstacles the hurricane engine faces and go from there. I do think there is a lot of potential for the pentastar that many do not want to admit but there will be another part to this video coming soon.

[@tideivlife1]

But how long is that stock trans gonna hold up to that amount of torque?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

The transmission upgrades mentioned in the video like the cooler, differential, axels, drive shaft and stalls etc should support the additional power. However, stock or not proper care and maintenance of things along with driving habits will prolong the use of just about any components.

[@actualfacts8106]

You cant change the headers on the 3.6 bro.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

You can on the 09-2010 BBK Perfomance makes them and they are the headers I mentioned here.As you and others have mentioned anything past that point has the manifold casted to the head of the motor. I do my best to include as many years and aftermarket options for the vehicles I mentioned as possible. Nevertheless, I do appreciate you looking out 👍🏾 Thank you for your support.

[@NickBEADG]

Does this include my Pentastar v6 Grand Caravan?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I know that there are bolt ons and tunes available. However, as far as a supercharger goes one may have to get a custom bracket for it. I’m not sure how much clearance there is compared to the charger/challenger and the Jeep’s.

[@MyWayne13]

I wonder if he knows that you can’t buy headers for the 3.6 pentastar? They’re built into the block…

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I do know I pinned the comment and mentioned the headers are for early model pentastars. And I do appreciate your efforts to educate.

[@AlmostanSRT]

Can you supercharge and turbocharge the V6 ? I am new to the MOPAR community and I have a 22’ SXT and so far I have put in a Borla ATAK cat back exhaust with black tips, an MMX 80 MM hand ported Throttle Body with a V6 to HEMI V8 wiring harness and a K&N cold air intake that cost me and arm and leg….i didn’t know there was so much vitriol towards the V6 lol….my last upgrade was going to be to get a forged header and some tuning here and there until I can afford the crate engine I want….was wondering if I should wide body my blacked out charger now that the sound has improved and the engine intake and throttle systems are upgraded ? Or is this just stupid as shit idk 🤷‍♂️ I’m lost

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Welcome! and to answer your first question technically yes but it would be expensive and custom as it has not been done before. The turbo kit in and of itself would be custom but there is also the sprintex supercharger kit which uses a style supercharger like that of a hellcat (root style/twin screw). As far as headers go, the earlier models like 09 have them where as the newer ones like yours are casted on to the block so there is no way to remove it. The good news is you have plenty of options in the MOPAR world. I have also made a video about the 5.7 hemi and the earlier chargers for example can still be found for about $8k. So would you like to keep the v6 and save the money you wanted to put towards the wide body and other parts towards something like a 2010 charger/challenger (or other running hemi powered vehicles) ? Or Sell the v6 after you have the cash for the other car and build that? Again there is no wrong answer even if it is something no one else agree with. But you must start with one goal and a budget for that goal. Please feel free to ask any questions you would like.

[@AlmostanSRT]

@@ModstarzOfficial Thanks for your prompt response. I wanted to amend a prior statement I made concerning the headers/manifold. I intend to get the ported manifold from MMX as opposed to “forged” as I previously/mistakenly wrote. My question is as follows: would I be able to obtain equitable power in comparison to a Hellcat if I obtained the Sprintex Supercharger, upgraded to Ripp supercoils, forged my rods and pistons and possibly upgraded my cooling system, and purchased a TorqueFlite 8HP90 or perhaps a TR-6060? This question is brought forth in good faith and with the limited knowledge I have concerning mechanics. However, I understand if the question(s) itself/themselves are moot considering the technical challenges posed to say the least. I would also like to add that if I secure the Sprintex I would still want to turbocharge the V6 as having a unique vehicle such as this intrigues the hell out of me to say the least. With me having verbalized that diatribe, I have effectively decided to keep my V6 should I be able to achieve the above conditions and have also decided to withhold the wide body kit purchase from Vicrez unless I can achieve the exhaust noise/grumble quality level of at least a 392 scat or Daytona. Is this even possible with the modifications I’ve done ? Does more oxygen to the engine equate to better noise production or is this also a likely fruitless venture ? I was also wondering what kind of turbocharger should I look to pair with the Sprintex ?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@AlmostanSRT Short answer to the hellcat power question yes. And you may even be just as quick with less power. Here is a link I put in the description of this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoSclWakqM1ojpIsi=4IHxq2wEFBvEPElf

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@AlmostanSRT Also running a 3.90 diff which I did not include in the video will wake the car up more and you may not need to swap transmissions. Boosted lucky used this differential on his Supercharged v6 challenger and yes it was on e85 at the time but even in roll racing it was on the door of a Cadillac V. I don’t remember if it was a cts v or ATS V but it doesn’t matter it says a lot. There is also a twin turbo kit for the v6 and some have debated that it makes the same power as the ripp kit. However no one talks about the torque differences or the fact that it’s on low boost on a stock motor. I’m sure higher boost and a built motor this would not be up for discussion. And as far as the rumble goes , I will send you that information shortly. The sprintex supercharger information you will need is in the first link I sent you and they are currently working on another pulley.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@AlmostanSRT Here is the link to the twin turbo kit. prodigyperformance.com/products/dodge-challenger-twin-turbo-kit And for exhaust you have the craven X pipe, afe catless down pipes and vibrant resonators. I believe boosted lucky has a similar exhaust set up and the rumble is definitely there and porting like you mentioned may be a deeper tone with valve tronic mufflers as well.

[@lee300pentastar]

I don't think we have many options for headers because of how the pentastar headers are built into the block. At least the 2013 has the built in headers i believed

[@ModstarzOfficial]

You are correct. After discovering this myself, I pinned a comment to clarify what I meant but you are spot on .

[@Ernie27]

I got a 2022 dodge charger gt and I’m interested in modding it out

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Cool ! What’s your goal ? And what’s your budget ? And does it still have a warranty?

[@Ernie27]

@@ModstarzOfficial I want a ripp supercharger but at the same time it’s expensive as long as I’m pushing 400+ hp I’m happy

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@Ernie27 400 hp seems highly likely. A 3.90 diff would wake the car up for sure. But if you just want the supercharger kit that’s cool as well.

[@Ernie27]

@@ModstarzOfficial yea

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@Ernie27 It sounds like it will be a fun car when it’s done. Keep me posted when it is done.

[@N0-0D]

Can I do this with my 01 Dodge intrepid thank u

[@ModstarzOfficial]

It would have to be a custom set up and you would need space for any supercharger to fit somewhere under the hood. I’m not sure if this unit or a different style supercharger would fit. Perhaps a rotrex style or a turbo, but either route you go would require custom work.

[@N0-0D]

@@ModstarzOfficial could go hoodless..I see so many Chrysler 300s challengers and chargers with no hoods in Georgia thank you for the information I'll keep you updated

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@N0-0D You make a valid point! Also what is your specific goal and budget?

[@N0-0D]

@@ModstarzOfficial I just bought it 2001 Dodge intrepid still has the original 3.5 if I can tune it and get close to 500 HP without swapping something different if not I just wanted to see what would be options

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@N0-0D Congrats on getting the car! I could not find much of anything in the aftermarket which means you would be the pioneer for your car and many things would be custom. Some have suggested the 300M Chrysler final driver is taller and the Plymouth prowler is 4.3 I believe but I’m not sure how a rwd differential works on a fwd car unless they were speaking on the actual gear set of the transmission. Tuning would have to be a universal one like Ecumaster Det3 of AEM FI C 6 (piggy back computers) or mega squirt (stand alone) if possible. The displacement of the motor is that of modern day v6 engines and the weigh less than a Nissan 350z to put it in perspective. Simple bolt ons or a way to make the transmission shift quicker like a custom stall torque converter would wake the car up and surprise a lot of things you run against. If this is a route you’d like to take vs Swapping a motor I say go for it. Even bolt ons and machining the cylinder heads with a custom exhaust & headers if you can do so. Let me know what you think and I can do some more research for you.

[@YesNo-ty5eb]

Bruh keep dreaming he said hellcat Hunter 😭

[@jmkos86]

I hope he meant off the line or the second he took off the dig. But as soon as the hellcats tires stop spinning….lol good luck with that.

[@MrRoyaletheGOAT]

You sound dumb💀 @BoostedLuckey made a hellcat hunter

[@TarheelNomad-i4z]

How much boost ae you talking about ?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

8 psi

[@TarheelNomad-i4z]

@@ModstarzOfficial I have a jeep Gladiator and I know RIPP has a smaller puley. The one that comes with the unit is rated a 6-8 PSI the other one they sell is rated 9-11 PSI was sure if going that high on my daily driver would be a good idea. I dont race so I wouldnt put the same stress on the engine like you guys but just for the fun of it.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@TarheelNomad-i4z This is actually my first time hearing about the 9-11psi kit. I know they have made some updates to the kit especially for the Gladiators but with the colder spark plugs, coil packs and oil catch can they offer on their site as well could improve performance of the kit. And seeing how you mentioned you would not put the same stress on the engine as someone racing I do not see it being an issue. Before purchasing I would definitely do a maintenance check . And it does not hurt to ask RIPP the same questions you asked me. In my opinion they have made these kits for so long with good results from what I have seen, but it is good to follow up and get more information before making that decision.

[@TarheelNomad-i4z]

@@ModstarzOfficial Well its not a kit. Its just a smaller puley and its sold as "Elevation" puley. For people who live like in Denver where air is thinner. They say in the description at sea level it will give you 9-11psi. I did call RIPP and I got was "what do you care you have a jeep not a race car".

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@TarheelNomad-i4z I see, thank you for the explanation. And I do apologize for that experience and their response. Even though I am not affiliated with RIPP I do not think that was an appropriate response. It does not matter if you have a race car. What they should have realized is that you are a potential or returning customer. With that being said, the additional psi to accommodate the elevation makes since and may be equivalent to the 8psi at lower elevation so your jeep should be fine with that power and elevation. And to be fair, majority if not nearly all who have RIPP kits are daily driver/show cars and weekend warrior race type cars. I cannot recall Anyone on a very competitive race circuit using this as of yet but that may not carry much credibility. If you are still interested in this I could reach out to them and contact a higher up to explain the situation. However, if you are no longer interested I understand that too. If so, let me know and I will send you my email. Overall I do apologize for that experience as it should not have happened and shows someone at that time displayed poor customer service.

[@jeremiahball2593]

You forgot the Pacifica.. that S bout to be for Supercharged

[@ModstarzOfficial]

🤯 YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I did forget about that and you are a genius for thinking this. Very clever sir.

[@adrenalinejunkie301]

I’m building my ram 1500 with the 3.6 🤣. Just got the prodigy forged internal bundle, a turbonetics billet gtk 1050 turbo, tial Q 50mm bov, tial mvr 44mm wastegate then I’m having shop do custom hot and cold piping. All titanium.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

That sounds really cool! Anything for the transmission?

[@adrenalinejunkie301]

@@ModstarzOfficial We’ll see as I go along. Id really like to see what this 3.6 can do. I plan to do cross country hauling for motorcycle track days so having some more power would be a little more fun and I’m sure helpful pulling! Just don’t want a supercharger and there are no turbo kits already made being sold.

[@adrenalinejunkie301]

@@ModstarzOfficial I did just buy a new oem transmission because the original started jumping. Truck has about 102,000 miles.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@adrenalinejunkie301 This is true there aren’t anything turbo kits wise. I believe this platform is very underrated and has a lot of potential. Please keep me informed with your progress. I am excited for this!

[@ingreatmemory6976]

Hey Boss, do you still reply on this account? I got a Challenger 2023 GT AWD Plus challenger, and I don’t know if you can just mod it the same way as a regular RWD

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Yes I still reply. I do not think there are any drastic changes on the 2023 model to the previous AWD models. With that said, If you were to get a supercharger kit it would have to be the AWD kit from Ripp superchargers. Bolt ons should be straight forwards but exhaust is simple seeing how the headers are casted to the block and cannot be removed. If you are going the supercharger route than you will have just about everything in the kit including HP tune flash. If you are going all motor (bolt ons and tune) than you have a few more options for tuning like Diablosport and Livernoise performance flash tuning which (If I am not mistaken) also have the ability to adjust shift points of the transmission as well. Lastly the differentials cannot be swapped as simply as the RWD variants because of just that. However, I am curious if differentials from an AWD jeep srt for example will fit along side other necessary hardware if needed. I hope this helps. What is your goal? And what is your budget?

[@ingreatmemory6976]

@@ModstarzOfficial I wanna keep the feature of going AWD just to start, I daily the car and need it for colder states! Handled better than my uncles F350 Dualie in the snow over in Wyoming, so I wanna keep that aspect if possible, but I also want the regular idling sound of the challenger with a deeper tone, some crackles and pops if possible in like a 2 step. I want that v8 deep sound too (ik it’s not the same but that style) with maybe a low 4 sec 0-60? I just wanna be able to keep up with let’s say an rt or a stock hellcat. I’d say a budget of $15k would be what I’d spend on this car

[@ingreatmemory6976]

@@ModstarzOfficial But you did clear up a lot of my questions about what I could actually do then! That’s amazing. Thanks for that. I just got the car, so I’m gonna keep it for a while till warranty, but I wanted to get ideas I could maybe do.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@ingreatmemory6976 Sounds good. And it seems like you can do just about everything you want to.

[@curtisjonesiii1600]

What type of torque converter?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Circle D torque converter 3200-3400 stall

[@curtisjonesiii1600]

@@ModstarzOfficial I'm a Hella newbie what does that do?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@curtisjonesiii1600 welcome 🙏🏾. The simplest way I can explain it is that it is an upgrade for an automatic transmission. The higher the “stall” refers to the rpm number where the converter will lock up. This gives you the ability to accelerate or launch the car at higher rpm’s where more power can be available. Stall choice varies on many build applications and engines but for street driven set ups from what I have seen not only in the pentastar v6 but the gm 3800 v6 (Chevy , Pontiac, etc) stall for street cars are around 2800 and on more aggressive setups 3000 stall. I know it’s general but I hope it helps. If you are still confused I can direct you to helpful articles as well. Warning you may go down a rabbit hole

[@curtisjonesiii1600]

@@ModstarzOfficial I got it I appreciate it! Also do you know where I can get get a custom flywheel made?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@curtisjonesiii1600 I’m not sure. What vehicle is it for?

[@Upstate_sonic]

so theoretically this wouuld work on my avenger v6

[@ModstarzOfficial]

That is interesting. I know the engine layout is different but it’s worth looking into. If it can work, I think it would be a monster of a fwd

[@Sabrinajeromej]

So is thue suoer charger sage alone for the v6

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I am not sure what you are asking based on the typos. Do you want to know if the supercharger alone is safe for the v6? If so, there are a good amount of individuals who run the Ripp Supercharger kit on their Mopar/Jeep/ Chrysler. Daily driven as well. Maintenance is the priority on every vehicle (At least it should be) and do not abuse your car.

[@ProjectChimera-46]

You got a sub off this video. I have a 3.6L Pentastar Challenger & I

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Thank you 🙏🏾. Pentastars are an underrated platform even in all motor form.

[@cali4niaproject559]

Keeping up with R/t and scatpacks tho tf 🫡

[@casperdelo7777]

Stock 392 makes 475 hp even in the wranglers

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@casperdelo7777 Not to the wheels, as I’ve mentioned in the 5.7 Hemi video I made.

[@casperdelo7777]

@ModstarzOfficial yea that much idk I just know I build the things for a living and people are always talking bout them and all in love with em I however am not as impressed lol

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@casperdelo7777 I completely understand and agree. But with the aftermarket we have to start somewhere. I do appreciate you sharing your honest opinion and wanting to have a conversation.

[@casperdelo7777]

@ModstarzOfficial no.hate brother I fully agree I am a chevy guy so you know lol but no matter the make or model it's the lack of quality now days I'm sure it goes for all brands I just happen to only see 1 mainly

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@casperdelo7777 Another thing we agree on. It doesn’t seem to matter the brand many people, even everyday people say quality is cheap and all the cars look the same. On a side note , Chevy has been in my family longer than I have. And I’m not a dodge person either I just don’t like bullies and want to educate people that fast cars (and I don’t even consider hellcats that) does not mean fast/ good driver. And thing in the aftermarket people may not no about and just inspire people to build and develop which is something people don’t really do with cars are themselves now of days. A great example of building and development is the Gringotegra. TRC just dropped a short documentary on the owner Miles and the car. I’ve followed it for years and it’s not even a K series engine swap like most things/ Hondas are now of days.

[@Nfamous_707]

I have questions…many many questions 😂😂😂

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Ask away.

[@dakotabrown1741]

Ripp is nice but you can get better out of a twin screw roots setup.

[@sirzeus3324]

i just got a 23 charger sxt rwd want the the RIPP for sure but unsure where i would go to even have someone install the kit for me. Also when its Ripp'd does it sound more aggressive or will it still have a drone noise? @ModstarzOfficial

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@sirzeus3324 It depends on your exhaust set up as far as drone noise. The supercharger itself will have an idle noise in addition to your car but only those who know the procharger sound may pick up on it. On throttle it will be more of an NA sound.

[@sirzeus3324]

@@ModstarzOfficial i just have it straight piped i plan on getting a full on exhaust kit but for now its stock with just all the mufflers deleted. Do you know if getting exhaust tips make a difference?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@sirzeus3324 I’m not sure

[@smoke_sum597]

6 bands is crazy. Should be more like 3k

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@smoke_sum597 It’s a vortech supercharger unit, and those kits are priced over $5k for v6 and v8 applications. Turbo kits are about the same price range too, unless it’s a company like CX racing. Even a rotrex system would go for a similar price range. Even before inflation has occurred these were the prices of these components. Remember companies have to grow and their employees need to live.

[@jtc1964x]

The Pentastar never had enough torque for the LX cars. It was a poor engine for this car. A 392 with simple mods will easily put down 450 to the wheels and sound 100% better

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jtc1964x Most definitely. However there’s more to things than just torque or just power. I do agree with your torque focus as most do not. But the weight of the 392 vehicles might just make it a closer matchup from what I’ve seen.

[@jtc1964x]

@@ModstarzOfficial Ford had a similar problem 20 years ago and, of course, started slapping turbos on everything - something Chrysler SHOULD have done with the Pentastar a decade ago. Thanks for the reply

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@jtc1964x You are most welcome. I enjoy and only reply to those who want to have a conversation. And yet again I agree with you on the ford thing and the Chrysler pentastar turbo approach. They would not have to had made the hurricane engine they have now.

[@camille5553]

you cant put headers on this the mabifold is molded to the head

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I apologize for the confusion. As I have mentioned in my pinned comment and a few other responses. The headers are for the v6 and it is for years 2009-2010 and BBK is the company that makes them. The upgrades mentioned in the video are not limited to the latest model v6.

[@richardcardwell6266]

The lack of torque will get you in the end

[@ModstarzOfficial]

It could, but that depends on the set up and whatever you are running. If we are just talking about this charger or challenger that’s where gearing and transmission upgrades come into play. Another thing a lack of torque can help with is traction but the torque numbers on these aren’t too bad. But I do appreciate you bringing this up as I look at torque numbers on a lot of cars and see that they are lower than I expected. As Jay Leno says “ Horsepower sells cars but torque wins races.”

[@16ltb]

​@@ModstarzOfficial What if you add a small turbo for low rpms, would that help with torque?

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@16ltb That depends on the turbo and gearing of the car. Would added some form of force induction increase power and torque over factory specs? But how well can those components be utilized? That in itself depends on your goals and budget.

[@thebombperformancechannel9087]

Bro for 6k I can just swap my v6 to a scat

[@ModstarzOfficial]

If that is the case then by all means do your thing. 👍🏾 Keep me posted when you do.

[@Bob-s5s]

Keep dreamin

[@fred_on_factorys404]

💪🏾💯

[@ModstarzOfficial]

🙏🏾 thank you. Do you have or want to get a mopar?

[@sharkman766]

After you spend all that money on mods, install, dyno, wheels, not to mention with that kind of power you have to do more than just slap things on the engine....you're better off just saving all the pain and buying a scat or a 5.7. I wouldnt even bother trying to buy all that crap for a V6... considering all the other things you need to do to it.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I understand where you are coming from. I have a 5.7 hemi video where I talk about used chargers and Chrysler 300 and such going for $8k. As far as this v6, there are plenty of supercharged v6 beating scat packs in the 1/4 mile on KZbin and the only thing they have done is the Ripp Supercharger kit. Depending on how much the car is when one buys it plus the kit it could come out to be cheaper than getting a a 392. Or perhaps its just a matter of preference and convenience. People like what they like and appreciate what they have to the point where upgrades can be done. One could make the same point about building a 5.7 vs getting a hellcat but that's what makes the automotive aftermarket exciting. With ones own preference they can build which as may have expressed no one really does anymore. But as I stated earlier it comes down to preference.

[@hellcatmd7635]

Not everyone wants want those v8 mopar.i have a twin mounted turbo 3.6 Chrysler 300 600whp. My build could buy 3 of those 5.7 mopar😂.

[@AddictusSaevire]

Nah, this ain't it my man. Like its cool and all for what it is, but 450 to the wheels with that weight, doesn't make you a big fish, even in the smallest of ponds. Hellcats run mid 11's in good DA. Redeyes run mid 10's. I run low 11's on pump gas and mid 10's on E-85 with stock turbo in my AWD Q60RS. GTR's running very low 11's stock. You're beating the breaks off 5.0's, Snack Packs, and vr30's with jb4's, but for the money you're putting into that v6, you'll be disappointed lining up to a vr30 that's on E-30 or higher. The AWD RT Police cruiser seems like the best bang for your buck to build.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I guess time will tell. The aftermarket is a cool thing.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Also , if you haven’t looked at it yet. I have a link in the description of a sprintex supercharged v6 running 11s

[@AddictusSaevire]

​@@ModstarzOfficial Oh, I don't doubt it can run 11's, I was just stating that the vr30 platform does this with just CAI's, lower downpipes and a tune and that's mid 11's not high 11's. E-30 mix they are doing mid to low 11's (depending on DA) which is substantially quicker. Forced induction platforms naturally have the edge, which is why its cheaper to mod them. You don't have to pay for another component. I was only saying, if you get the Sprintex Supercharger, you might be disappointed in the results if you go in thinking you're a big fish and a lightly modded Kia Stinger or Model 3 performance pulls up at the light.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@AddictusSaevire I get what you are saying as far as ETs and platforms go and there’s no argument against that. But to keep myself on topic,this is to share the current potential of the pentastar v6 and what it could be. On a side note, I have a philosophy on consistency especially when it comes to performance but perhaps that is a conversation for another time. I don’t want to get to carried away with anything.

[@meme2780]

Can't get the 8 speed though and its heavier, I like my AWD V6, But I live in Montana and can drive it all year long. Planning to get a Ripp super charger this summer, Was going to get on last summer but was a 5 month wait.

[@donphonso]

5.7 over a scat any day… easy supercharger kit and scats not even competing.

[@B30021]

That’s what us 3.6 supercharged drives say about 5.7s

[@JaysUni]

Yessirr 5.7 gang

[@kawrmm]

scats have prochargers but i do agree

[@MOPAR_scatpack]

If i chose a V6, i would of just threw my money at my G37. Alot cheaper too.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

You can’t go wrong either way.

[@Julio-yd1xn]

Now put the same mods and tunes on a v8...

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@Julio-yd1xn 5.7 Hemi?

[@dakotabrown1741]

I can tell you how to make 600whp on the pentastar platform. 😂 but it won't be a daily driver anymore

[@JoseRosa-t4q]

How

[@dakotabrown1741]

False information on the shorty headers or longtube headers, they don't have headers they have 2 single downpipes

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Its not false the early models have headers. I pinned a comment explaining this in greater detail. I do apologize for any confusion or misunderstandings.

[@cali4niaproject559]

Everyone go look at bro i think he's name boosted lucky that mf smacking v8's

[@cali4niaproject559]

His name**

[@ModstarzOfficial]

Yes sir that v6 was putting in work. It’s a shame about what happened to it. I know he’s got a hellcat now that’s built and he’s pushing that as well, but i haven’t seen how well it performs.

[@murdasxt]

y’all should look my build i have a v6 sxt

[@Im-sure]

I’m gonna tell you how to blow up your engine, keep watching this video

[@Promethean0035]

Building a v6 charger/challenger is impractical because you'll spend money on replacement parts far more than the car is worth. lets say you do add all that HP where is the torque to back it up??? There is a video of a decked out v6 with a stock motor (second motor at that because the v6 motor is prone to cracking because they are aluminum cast and cannot handle the stress of a supercharger even if you give it forged internals they aren't built for it) getting gapped by a 392 scat pack just because it doesn't have the torque to keep up. Yes this will beat a stock hemi or R/T but nothing crazier than that because those cars have the torque and proper build/upgrades pushing the vehicle where is.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

I've posted a link of one running 11s in 1/4 mile on a Sprintex supercharger, and upgrading cars seems impractical to just as many people who beleive buying expensive cars (cars over $30k-$40k) are impracticle but thats besides the point. As Jay Leno once said "Horsepower sells cars but torque wins races." You and I however both know there are other factors that effect results and application of power. And that is why we have the aftermarket, to make what was once impossible possible. I guess we will have to wait and see. Here is the video of the challenger as well if you have not seen it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoSclWakqM1ojpIsi=l3Y-n8VcjCfLhl5v

[@cmmcarguy3343]

I always told people to enjoy their builds. I don’t have to like them and most of the time I don’t. There’s always someone faster then you, no matter what you got. 3.6L is a start you know, can’t knock one down that has actual performance mods. 5.7 is the slowest v8 out there right now. If it has actual mods to it then, it has potential. 6.4L are decent and don’t really like boost too much. Actual mods make this thing even better. 6.2L already is in a different league then the other engines. Even tho it gets beat by cars with 500whp, still gotta respect what it’s got. Enjoy your rides y’all, not everyone is going to like your car. Stay true to you, and do not be “ that guy “ at car meets, and you’ll be good 👍🏽

[@ModstarzOfficial]

100% . A lot of car meets are dangerous now as they have “that guy” like you mentioned and many are takeovers.

[@cmmcarguy3343]

@@ModstarzOfficial I enjoy what you are doing here. You are showing these guys what is possible. You’re giving them options, that’s not a bad thing at all. I have a 3.6L 2015 Chrysler 300s. It does have some mods but it’s my daily so it’s still pretty reliable. My Mercedes is my project and currently makes 611whp. I’ve seen both sides of modding. The side where people love it and the side where people hate it. They hated that I actually added some power and swapped my rear diff on my Chrysler. I’d say some nice mods tbh. Then they see my Mercedes and fall in love. Both have mods it’s just what’s under the hood at the end of the day. I support you brother and keep on with these videos 🤘🏽

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@cmmcarguy3343 Thank you 🙏🏾 when I say that I appreciate your word, I really do mean it. Also the rear diff mod is the most underrated and effective mod to do. What kind of Mercedes do you have ?

[@CallaFab]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That 380wtq V6 isnt going to hunt down a Hellcat on its best day. I have a 505whp 3.6L, and I got WORKED by a Hellcat like I was stock.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@CallaFab stock transmission and final drive ?

[@CallaFab]

@@ModstarzOfficial Stock trans with custom TCM tune. I installed 3.91 rear diff

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@CallaFab Interesting 🤔 hellcat was stock also?

[@CallaFab]

@@ModstarzOfficial Yep. Supercharged V6 makes very little tq. It was 505whp/380wtq. RIPP doesn't even state the tq their supercharger makes, because it's embarrassing. And 505/380 is NO comparison to a Hellcat. The quickest 1/4 I ever did in my Charger was 11.5. Hellcats were hi 10s that day.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@CallaFab 11.5 sounds about right but even stock and on tire, hellcats don’t immediately 10s and to do so consistently takes some more time so that car seems to be dialed in. The stock 1/4 mike records for hellcats have been corrected over the years and without a radial or slick they run 11s.

[@bryanbaldwin7370]

It cant hunt a scat pack much less a hellcat

[@joemama1151]

Those engines are really bad. Anyone trying to modify them is just asking for trouble. Inferior materials used cause premature crank bearing failures. Words to live by. Don't buy a Dodge! It's never led me astray.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@joemama1151 A tech made a comment about this as well. Has something to do with the magnets. But a lot of people but dodge especially the v6 and mod them, drive them daily etc. Based on that it doesn’t seem like there are enough failures for them to make a recall if it isn’t already on the service bulletin.

[@scottwoosley8388]

Hellcat Hunter? lol. A supercharged V6 will barely hang with a stock 6.4

[@meme2780]

That is true to a point, Hes mostly talking about the awd v6's, Easy to win a race with a much more powerful car like a Hellcat on a dirty road or wet out, Even just a better driver is the point. Not talking about on a prepared track. if comes to already moving likely no chance.

[@BlueBaby-m6t]

It wont hold up. I have worked on them. The lifter and cam design is junk. Worst engine ever!!!

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@BlueBaby-m6t This is the first I am hearing of this. If that is the case than we will see if anyone does any rnd in the aftermarket to fix that issue .

[@BlueBaby-m6t]

@@ModstarzOfficial if the magnets on end of cams don't fail the lifters and rockers break. Ebay has several knock off lifter and cam kits that are way worse than the stock ones. The phasers on cams on pentastar will also break at 500hp, they break or wear out becoming sloppy even on stock engines.

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@BlueBaby-m6t Ah that makes sense. I remember when Ford was having issues with cam phasers a few years ago. Believe it or not there are some exotics that have this issue as well that people are getting a fix on but we will see if that goes down the latter on more affordable cars. Do you have any ideas on how to make the magnets more secure? Perhaps a a JB weld type composite?

[@BlueBaby-m6t]

@@ModstarzOfficial problem isn't the magnets being secure it is the design. The magnets are little magnetic lines on a wheel. Those cams on end can't be near any metals like steel. Even a screw driver or socket will make the magnetic lines distort and not read anymore. The stock cam magnets are far better than cheap ebay cam magnets but are still junk. The rockers are tiny also and known for roller wheel collapse or deformation. Also I have bought penstar lifters that didn't pump up and I had to remove top of everything to replace again which drives me nuts.

[@Jonathan-wx2qh]

😂

[@chehystpewpur4754]

just no.

[@TokesMcGOAT1]

Lil v6 wants to be a big boy🤣🤣🤣

[@ModstarzOfficial]

@@TokesMcGOAT1 A lot of people have them and they have potential.