Mamas and Papas -- Straight Shooter

[@ThrobertMcGee]

@jscottlewis71: The irony is that Cass apparently spent months pestering John and Denny to let her in the group -- they thought her obesity would be bad for the young, sexy image they wanted. But then, of course, her voice ended up totally defining the group's sound, and it's impossible to imagine them without her!

[@PRR5406]

Denny was actually very much in tune with Cass. Supposedly it was John who was the holdout. Cass Elliott really supported and defined the group. She was honestly, the voice of the group.

[@memorast]

This is one of the groups that were better live than on tape or on record. They had a fantastic sound.

[@kandylangford5886]

Gotta love the clothes...I was there...saw 'em live on my 1st acid trip in San Jose CA.

[@holley2]

kandy langford Describe the experience please

[@cardboardheadguy7814]

1st?

[@alexhumphrey5606]

Nice

[@amysharma4972]

Wow what a memory

[@MooseCall]

You're so cool.

[@pbrucpaul]

Cass could really harmonize!

[@mrmaestro04]

Finally! some video footage of drummer Eddie Hoh! RIP Eddie.

[@joeychiarolanza6310]

He was such a great player...

[@promerops]

Ah! Eddie Hoh of 'Super Session' fame.

[@ajdoubleu4218]

I discovered him too late 😢trying to find more coverage on him

[@mrmaestro04]

@@ajdoubleu4218 It's never too late. The music will always be there for us!

[@ajdoubleu4218]

@@mrmaestro04 thank you. I just wished u discovered him earlier. Eddie passed away back in 2015, I read that he used to communicate with his fans within a media platform before he passed away, but I’m discovering more of his work day by day 👍

[@jimbo01111]

yeh, what a brilliant voice cass had ;D, u can tell if u listen thro headphones how much it really stands out ;)

[@pbrucpaul]

That drummer is pretty darn good. The rest is the terrific talent of the Mama's and the Papa's.

[@ajdoubleu4218]

The late great Eddie Hoh. RIP

[@HRB]

One of the best band of all time ! Great music ! Thank you for post this for us ...

[@SeattleLA]

I met a man last year in Vista, CA, and we talked for a few hours, who was the Mamas' drummer for their first tour, as well as in the studio. He worked with the Wrecking Crew, of course. I asked him a lot of questions, about Philips, Phil Spector, etc. Very educational for me.

[@sanyapaul639]

Love that

[@marchristiansen]

That was out of sight. I always wanted to say that. My favorite song. Great to see fast Eddie Hoh on drums.

[@GeorgeVreelandHill]

A great song that is pure 1960s. If you know what I mean.

[@warrenrosen2326]

Half of that belongs to me.

[@johnwrobel5655]

Eddie Hoh played on a couple Monkee records!!

[@shineingstar54]

I love them! They were awesome!!!!!

[@DragotouxNight]

I've already watched this video 4 times and just can't get enough. excellent stuff

[@HendriechParra]

This song always make me happy

[@ThrobertMcGee]

"They basically taught [Michelle] how to sing on the fly." Which worked out brilliantly, since her weaker "girly" voice provided such wonderful counterpoint to Cass's "earth mother" sound.

[@Mournerable]

It's a shame how you'll never find anything close to this on the radio nowadays. Other than that, A&W's your best bet.

[@sanyapaul639]

Still to this day

[@stripervince1]

when talent reigned. and people could sing, play instruments and write their own music, 60's and 70's were the best. wish i could go back in time to 1966.....i was a hippie, a young one born in 1959, wish is was 10 years older

[@simmsation21]

They really can't sing, music saved them

[@stripervince1]

Simmond Cannon you really cannot be serious. Mamas and papas were one of the best vocal , harmonies type groups ever. They had fantastic voices. As far as the music saved them, while John philips and Denny Doherty played guitar, studio musicians like the wrecking crew played the fantastic music

[@simmsation21]

@@stripervince1 they did not have great vocals and could barely harmonize, they were OK and had a unique sound. My father was a professional singer(tenor) and I know what I'm talking about. Listen to them live they were so off harmonizing but everyone was so high back then that they didn't pay attention and rocked to the beat. They're drummer was the best part of this band.

[@simmsation21]

I like the sound but they couldn't sing a lick

[@stripervince1]

Simmond Cannon I don’t recall your dad playing at Monterey pop, or Woodstock or anywhere else for that matter. Mamas and papas sold 25 million records in the very short time they were famous 1966-1967. How many did your dad sell?

[@mattymath1]

Oh man, they rocked it out!

[@JohnAllanification]

John Phillips was a genius stretching the opening. it look's like Cass was hip whereas Michelle wasn't there.

[@892lgy7382]

love the hippie outfits ♥

[@pani_dubito3749]

Eddie Hoh, the Drummer Incarnate.

[@GodInTheMachine]

Eddie Hoh has got the beat in the pocket. Cass was so great.

[@blairbooth]

How truly wonderful, Terry Hall Blair And Anouchka were so influenced....beautiful!

[@florkgagga]

Matthatter, now THAT is some interesting info! Even though I'm slightly younger I too saw Mamas&Papas live in Zurich Switzerland in '92.

[@Stanislavega]

Don't get me mad; don't tell no lie. Don't make me sad; don't pass me by. Baby are you holding, holding anything but me? 'Cause I'm a real straight shooter, if you know what I mean. You can bring me love; you can hang around. You can bring me up; don't you bring me down. Baby are you holding, holding anything but me? 'Cause I'm a real straight shooter, if you know what I mean. I've been searching all night, just to find what I'm looking for. Baby, baby, treat me right, or I won't come round your door No more! You can bring me love; you can hang around. You can bring me up; don't you bring me down. Baby are you holding, holding anything but me? 'Cause I'm a real straight shooter, if you know what I mean. I've been searching all night, just to find what I'm looking for. Baby, baby, treat me right, or I won't come round your door No more! Don't get me mad; don't tell no lie. Don't get me sad; just get me high. Baby, what your holding, half of that belongs to me. 'Cause I'm a real straight shooter (Baby, don't you get me down...) I'm a real straight shooter... (I've been searching all night long...) I'm a real straight shooter (baby) if you know what I mean - If you know what I mean.

[@MOSKII58]

love this tune.... my fav live mama papa song

[@FrankCatneyMusic]

Their best song!

[@mrREDBIRDFAN]

I wish they hurry up and get my time machine fixed. I have front row tickets to this. Dinner with Michelle following.

[@smautomat]

@recordguy4321 : "Fast Eddie Hoh", that is, as he's credited on The Monkees' great "Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd." album!

[@ljubicamalbasa7497]

svi super pevaju ovde smo videli da i dzon ima super glas

[@justiina32]

Best Mamas and papas performance I Really whis to be here...jamming white all flover power child

[@nephilimiyr]

I always though Hendrix did close the show out. I remember in the Hendrix movie Pete Tonwsend said there was a bit of a dispute as to who was going to play last and Hendrix got up on a chair and played some amzing jams and when he ended there was no longer a dispute.

[@jimbo01111]

pure live genius, fantastic ;D

[@PRR5406]

John had manifold short-comings as a person, but as a musician and song writer, her deserves credit.

[@paolocattaneo9840]

this is live for real, i love it

[@pbrucpaul]

Yeah, she was just the showcase. Cass was the Artist!

[@1populist]

Cass is the star

[@sheg1969]

She has a strong voice, but you can't hear Michelle...were she and Cass singing the same line?

[@MrUSSAM]

@@sheg1969 according to everything I have read/researched about M.P.F. there were many issues with equipment not working correctly,,esp. microphones,,some say Michelle's mike was off on purpose,,but I've yet to find THAT to be a fact.

[@emmaphilo4049]

@@sheg1969 michelle isn't strong in the singing.... If you know what I mean lol but that's ok she added to the charisma of the band as they all do. Love them

[@Victory-w5o]

Great song❤

[@MrBearcub300]

Bravo MP.

[@shineingstar54]

Love it!!!!!

[@djlibertine8735]

Wonderful!

[@RayNDeere]

Not to mention that John and Michelle were busy helping set up the festival (along with producer Lou Adler), that they did not have time to rehearse before the show. Plus they were the closing act and had no chance to try and top what the Who and Hendrix did earlier. Not a bad performance, though

[@sheg1969]

I think John got served with child support papers at Monterey too, according to Mackenzie Phillips's mom.

[@Latour6182]

Thankfully Cass was there to pull them together for their appearance at Monterey Pop - the others were lackluster for this event.

[@pbrucpaul]

Mama Cass is the real Voice here.

[@recordguy4321]

The great Eddie Hoh on drums

[@RayNDeere]

@badedas75 The backup band was known as "The Group with No Name".

[@MOSKII58]

thats correct ,John prided himself on how many vocal harmony parts they stacked, so there is no way they could sound "live" like their studio recordings, impossible..

[@pegbars]

That was more the mixer's fault. Cass always dominated. Listen to any of their songs, it's not difficult to pick her out. How I loved her!

[@jimbo01111]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeek fantastic ;D

[@UpstateMediaNY]

The only bad part about this clip from the movie is the fact that Paul Simon's intro and the beginning of the song is chopped out. Eddie Hoh shot the intro out of a damn cannon, and thankfully we get to hear it on the soundtrack album that was issued.

[@themonomind]

Is it Monterey Pop Festival? :)

[@MrUSSAM]

Yes...it's included in the Outakes of the "Complete Montery Festival"

[@nephilimiyr]

Cool! Thanks Matthatter!

[@marciaocampo9166]

2021 ! ❣

[@lordritchie]

Eddie Hoh on drums was great on drums.

[@billwilliams5352]

The sheet music for this was on Sharon Tate's piano. One foot away from her slain body.

[@dispassionateobserver]

That's grim.

[@MrUSSAM]

curious where you got that 'fact" ???

[@drrmdjr]

And Sharon and Roman went to Monterey Pop...they bought a large fabric wall calendar with a big carrot on it with the months of 1968 on it. It’s actually seen in the movie, ‘Monterey Pop’ when the camera films various spots throughout the art fair outside the amphitheater...one scene shows the calendar hung on a display above people sitting on the ground. The calendar is on the wall of the living room just beyond where Jay and Sharon were killed.

[@thescarletandgrey2505]

Other comments I’ve read say it was the music for “12:30”

[@cpuwrite]

@shanetrain71 In fact, they brought Michelle into the band strictly because of the way she looked. They basically taught her how to sing on the fly. Must be nice!

[@sheg1969]

I know thar feeling

[@figbat1]

day 2971. only dried figs and distilled water and freshly cut wheatgrass and a long walk today. nothing else. no change.

[@B52sguy]

I wonder how many people know what this song is referring to? I remember the 'word' at several spots on the circuit in the mid-late sixties. Just wondering. JF

[@stripervince1]

Was this from Monterey pop June 67?

[@nenadzec293]

yes nesa

[@rachelnbrien]

Yes.

[@cityzen2717]

Great drumming from Hal Blaine.

[@MrsRichardDalloway]

Fast Eddie Hoh.

[@moviemakerreviews2147]

Who come‘s from the trailer Once Upon a Time in Hollywood???

[@billwilliams5352]

After this, watch "Bring a Little Lovin" by Los Bravos for the total package.

[@onatanmilesi]

Me

[@holley2]

Present

[@amethyst_witch_blades]

Me! i love songs from the 60s so the soundtrack is legit heaven to me.

[@MrUSSAM]

Here from the outake performances of "Montery Pop" ... Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a dog,,don't get me wrong,I LOVE Tarantino,,but the worst movie he's done since his 1st "Peking Man"

[@arpionatore]

YEEEEEEEEEEAH!

[@MrZol]

courtcol in your statement this is what i have been hearing for years. but i think you can hear the mama papa's magic in this song. only these four people have the mama's and papa's sound which is gone forever. ( the backing band not to good. )

[@Domino014]

It's the Mamas and Papas not Papas and daughters!

[@ya9azab]

Michelle Phillips linda , linda

[@pbrucpaul]

@frankophille Cael a mara ha tu, Sibh Fein! Yes, us yanks did put out the word!

[@vakantieland4]

@SeattleLA If I send you my e-mail, will you tell me about it? I eat and drink the Mama's and Papa's.

[@454something]

Did the Wrecking Crew ever go out on live gigs with M&P or any other of the hundreds of groups that they did studio work for?

[@carolinaangeja]

Yes

[@sandy4311]

Michelle wasn’t taught to sing “on the fly”she was in Johns earlier band as the only female and has a beautiful singing voice before M & Ps were even a band and before Cass.

[@sandy4311]

Michelle was 17 when she was with John and Denny in The New Journeymen. Its on KZbin.

[@caloche2]

this is the kind of band that even tho they were good allways they were way better live.......

[@JudahIsreal]

this little story may have saved my life, are they worried?

[@formel15]

you're right

[@newellgirl]

is that Hal Blaine on drums??

[@RayNDeere]

The group's set was ragged because John (and Michelle to an extent) coordinated the festival with Lou Adler made rehearsing and getting into musical shape impossible. The tech issues (a lot of it due to the Who and Hendrix playing earlier) didn't help either. All four were at the Festival every moment and were really burnt out when it came time to play

[@otogawakazuhiro]

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[@linibono]

Totally.

[@mjuniorsc]

nice!

[@figbat1]

day 2974. 2 x 1487. only figs and wheatgrass and distilled water and a bit of urine til 8:00pm then grilled salmon and mandarins and grapes and sultans and lettuce. no change. had roasted chicken and pork last night instead.

[@kandylangford5886]

To be taken in context w/Papa John's drug use...if you know what I mean.

[@gsgreens6373]

kandy langford makes so much more sense now

[@jcrobso]

Most of the TV appearances were lip synced it was just the way they did TV back then. This is one of few live performances.

[@taddyd1]

no its Eddie somebody

[@ejectorerector]

i would definitely ;) ;) ;)

[@123PADDYCAKE]

hearsay is a destrcuctive thing.

[@Krys0924]

[@sanyapaul639]

Does anyone know what year this was ?

[@tapper701]

1967 Monterey Pop Festival

[@mloaks]

who is in the band? Blaine?

[@BRODGLENN]

i like it... pure raw talents on the go.. sadly, band nowadays, focused lot on the intrument effects and with less voicing...

[@ckleis]

It's a great performance, except for the fact that Michelle's microphone was disconected...

[@sheg1969]

Aha!

[@figbat1]

day 2975. 425 weeks gone. 5 x 5 x 7 x17. only dried figs and urine and distilled water and freshly cut wheatgrass til 9:00pm then fresh fruit and dried fruit. no change.

[@RLCOWBOY40]

figbat oswald by

[@sheg1969]

Can't hear Michelle!!!

[@markjamesmeli2520]

Hers must be the one that's humming all through the intro before they start singing.

[@serpentsally]

public television brought me here

[@RandomX856]

who's the drummer?

[@1populist]

Cass Elliott!

[@dancingwdeer]

woah! really?

[@stephen090670]

and you do???????

[@thiagofranca691]

Hey guys, What is "Straight shooter " ?

[@sidjones7058]

to me it's all about shooting dope, most likely heroin, maybe even cocaine. "holdin" is drug speak for having dope on you

[@HarrySmithDrHex]

A "straight shooter" is someone who doesn't miss when he shoots. Michelle's infidelities triggered John's jealousy, which was in turn the inspiration for many of the group's songs. The song is a warning from John that it might be dangerous to cross him.

[@johnnada586]

It is about johns pastime with heroin , "holding " is slang that means you are in possession of drugs . Come on people this is basic 60 "s slang . If you know what I mean. He was a "shooter " he was shooting heroin at that time of his life . He has been very public with his long term drug use , that started before the band was formed. "Baby whatcha holding , half of that belongs to me " Bonus Triva : Hotel California : " Warm smell of colitas , rising up through the air " , he is smoking a joint people , in So. Calif in the early seventies "colitas " was common slang for the little "buds" you would get in your "smoke" (pot). the Eagles were based in So. Calif.

[@melissawright1979]

Either the sound technicians screwed up Michelle's microphone or. . .she's not FUCKING SINGING!! x

[@AppleCorp3]

I think that's why it took them so long to get started...technical difficulties. It's definitely a different sound without Michelle!

[@EranEdry]

+Melissa Wright The mic is faulty and Hendrix totally trashed the stage before they went on so combine the two with no rehearsal time and sadly that's what we get...

[@melissawright1979]

Oh right I didn't know that. Thank you. It's a shame really because they all sound so good together x