Manager Don Quixote: ESGOO's First Impressions [Limbus Company]

[@Just_Someone610]

8 skills, 4 passives. Truly the boss ID of all time

[@timofeydyudin4226]

And at some point people were talking about potential Index id's with 6 different skills as something so distant

[@midnighteclipsed2738]

@@timofeydyudin4226 imagine roland ID with like 12 skill and god know how much passive, like the mask probably just make one his skill cannot be targeted or clashable or something

[@Memuer]

@@timofeydyudin4226 We still dont have a single id with actually more than 3 skills at a time, just skills transform into others

[@notori-di5et]

​@@midnighteclipsed2738and he can grew stronger as his reach new stage (passive)

[@erykando]

might have more skills but shes way less complex than erlking

[@Rose-ew7bv]

Esgoo on every skill: “How will this affect Gregor”

[@alexisferr3883]

Thats a gregor fan for you, jokes aside I dont think it changes anything and depends on how much self bleed don gets, which she could work as a second generator for bloodfeast

[@davy3832]

Just to chime in, if the Support Passive is paired with Gregor, that greatly increases his already funny survivability by increasing how much min-max heal values can be with the damage buff. ​@@alexisferr3883

[@Quantum1244]

Funnily it gives Priest Gregor an extra life, if he “dies” with the first life he’s granted, he cannot die from bleed for one turn

[@LongNguyen-cz5ty]

⁠@@alexisferr3883she did have dmg up based on % missing hp, so I think she bleeds hard.

[@Anasumi]

This will severely impact the Gregonomy

[@mclorde.]

Close enough, welcome back broken seasonal id that is crucial to a team comp

[@DenjiDugong]

Funny how they always have no count

[@OdysseusofLethe]

Mfw no Casetti ID for the British that focuses on inflicting bleed could

[@simonsis1321]

@@DenjiDugong Wildhunt Heathcliff has really good count

[@haryok8940]

​@@DenjiDugong Erlking Heath:

[@ryoutric]

​@@OdysseusofLethecasetti isnt worthy enough to get an id

[@Geiger30]

I love how ESGOO always sounds like he is about to distort

[@Caduceus26]

He is edging the carmen

[@donvitopatata]

I think in the update drops he just does the videos at inhuman times, due to timezones and wanting to release it as fast as possible.

[@Orlando_Furioso]

ESGOO is a Sinclair simple so makes sense

[@EveUzndjdj]

>sloth >lust >3 limbillion bleed my ring sang is gonna love this

[@EJS-jj8py]

>lust s3 and defense skill My nfaust is gonna love this one

[@bestpriest2224]

>Wrath Skill 2 attack weight up My Erlking is gonna Kill himself.

[@lilybelle2464]

I have all the manchaland and ring yi sang and nfaust... my team gonna go oonga boonga w this one

[@randomcitizen0]

​@@lilybelle2464I want to cry (I don't have any of them. I'm a new player. I only had ring yi sang, erkling heatcliif, butler outis, Nclair as a 000 id)

[@gesgald2266]

​@@randomcitizen0bro has 3 busted and 1 good id and still wants more

[@widecrusher7100]

I look forward to Fausts canto when her season ID is 7 pages and PM teases one page each day till realease

[@floor_tile]

It's just fucking Angelia.

[@Usakumo]

Each Page being part of a Book as if it was from a Library all together

[@bestpriest2224]

Honestly, that sounds pretty fire ngl.

[@sonico1742]

Ok you are cooking here

[@theiconofmemes5779]

Hol up let him cook

[@Welvader]

I love how she literally makes Shi Don irrelevant by being fast with Hardblood and by straight up having a passive that's better than all of Shi Association combined...

[@therealESGOO]

“Makes Shi Don irrelevant” is a crazy thing to say in 2024. She’s been irrelevant.

[@Welvader]

​You don't need to rub salt in the wound like that man, I've already been devastated by that one passive merely existing :(

[@Infestivity]

@@Welvader You know what they say.. That’s that…and this is this..

[@LimaBr_]

​@@therealESGOOhe prob stated it like that because of the methods of soloing don quixote

[@AlvinMathewDizon]

Shi association needs an updatee

[@BerriedDelish]

Hong Lu’s seasonal ID will have 3 pages. ESGOO, you cannot escape your responsibility to meow.

[@jaylopez6450]

Believe in 3 page Intervallo ID

[@Infestivity]

@@BerriedDelish Fullstop id gonna have 3 page, trust🙏

[@Garsemor]

I have to say, that reguardless of how good the kit ends up being, the thematics of how the ID functions are really amazing. Without the other bloodfiends, she just acts like any other bloodfiend with consuming bloodfeast and generates her own hardblood, but with the responsability on the team she instead becomes selfless and carring as she outright stops consomung bloodfeast for herself or generating her own hardblood, instead gaining ALL her power from carring for her fellow bloodfiends, as her hardblood generation goes from being generated by her skills to being generated by her allies bleeding and eating, which she enables. Also, something to note is that since she has unbreakable coins, even without count generation and even if she loses the clash, she is guaranteed to get hits in on the enemy that can set up some bleed potency to then enable the other bloodfiend's coin conditionals for better clashing, which again, is her enabling her familly.

[@Void-rj3sq]

She takes priority over others to consume bloodfeast though

[@firetruck_]

​@@Void-rj3sq but that's just how bloodfiends in general work, is it not? The lower kindred is not allowed to consume bloodfeast before the higher kindred does, and being the manager effectively put Don as the leader of la manchaland bloodfiends

[@Garsemor]

@@Void-rj3sq Doesn't matter, because her enhanced skills don't consume bloodfeast. This would basically only come up if you weren't running the other bloodfiends or multi-slotted her.

[@Petterwass]

a 3* ID shouldn't b losing clashes in the first place though

[@Garsemor]

@@Petterwass RNG is a thing, especially at the start of a fight without any SP built up, which is where having the ability to enable the rest of the team's coin conditionals also matters the most.

[@dookistaken]

Her amount of passives makes it look like she is straight out of library of ruina

[@timofeydyudin4226]

She is bookhuntermaxing

[@tyranoic6618]

she literally has the shimmering passive bro she IS the library of ruina ID

[@Supernob222]

@@tyranoic6618 She boutta have speed II and gain extra slot on first turn 🥶

[@Danny_the_noob]

​@@Supernob222 Can't wait for speed |||

[@Robocrab-td8dr]

​​@@tyranoic6618She is literally on Chesed's floor with the friendship passives/enhanced skills too

[@shremp69]

People are forgetting how fast she can potentially ramp up 1. She takes priority over the bloodfiend always 2. Her passives allow her to gain *Hardblood* stacks when allies take bleed dmg or consume bloodfeast => Barber Outis & Princess Rodya will bleed themselves if they don't consume bloodfeast on skills which will happen quite often 3. Her empowered skills don't consume bloodfeast which means when she's in her ramped-up state, she'll become selfless & assist other bloodfiend IDs with bloodfeast consumption/ramping up (this heavily depends on how much bleed she can build up in her ramped-up state)

[@LimaBr_]

You forgot priest gregor

[@shremp69]

@@LimaBr_ Didn't include him cuz he always bleed himself when using offensive skills anyways

[@anhvoky6664]

@@shremp69 bro is really a blood sac

[@Brinepool_Of_Obession]

​@@anhvoky6664 Now that you say that Yeah he is indeed a blood sac

[@Макаронноизбранныйпират]

Oh damn, that's quite insightful with the consumption order actually, thank you

[@mccastle2501]

Manager Don: Changing The Game

[@LimaBr_]

Eh close enough, welcome back blade lineage mentor mersault

[@marfit77]

@@LimaBr_ it really is Mentor Meursalt all over again (just this time their team was already good even if lacking some members still.

[@tivabunny]

19:18 Meat Lantern Don (my beloved), has the best support passive for any aggro solo MD runs. It's amazing. On it's own, it makes some solo runs possible.

[@ihave2cows]

right? he probably just instantly dismissed it because "bluh aggro/tanks bad" even though his favorite unit in the game is an aggro tank

[@chickennuggets9950]

​@@ihave2cows literally what are you talking about why are you reading so much into him saying like one thing. Meat lanterns don passive isnt very good anyways? You're almost never going to need it outside of an incredibly niche situation where in most cases you'd rather just take +damage buff from a support passive. even in the case of soloing you're actively imposing a challenge on yourself, a passive situationally allowing you to play the game a bit farther from what was intended doesn't make it any better because you literally dont have to in the first place.

[@ilovecreamycheese]

Support and divided by two are always just nice damage buffs

[@tivabunny]

@@chickennuggets9950 it is good you just hate tanks

[@Mikairium]

​@@tivabunny??? I dont think they mention anywhere they hate tanks??? This is this that is that??? Im confused lol

[@ferrisffalcis]

Sloth s1 for bleed comp is INSANE, we are slothing it up so bad, im so happy that she's here to go with ryoshu, the other vamps and yi sang as a bleed/rupture main don quixote fan oomfie this one goes hard for me specifically

[@leoninavarro6124]

What Ryoshu you recommend?

[@davipalpatino433]

@@leoninavarro6124Kurokumo if you want more count ( so you will use it mainly out of md and if you just want to be safer in count ) and red eyes if you want more potency and damage

[@Radiance_Buer]

​@@leoninavarro6124 kurokumo probably to fill the count void

[@blazerchocobo]

For bleed? Lobotomy EGO is the new hotness, if you don’t have that you can go Chef but actually Kurokumo has a surprisingly high amount of Bleed Count (at UT4). However KK has a s1 that inflicts same turn Paralyze with a 3-6 speed range, so you could end up wasting it. She does have a Lust guard, however, so she can help with A.Res.

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

Nah I’mma keep using N Faust.

[@catgckool428]

Something to note: You are likely to run Sancho as the first slot, and only one skill per turn will be empowered (Variant), the counter is meant to be used in the second slot mainly in order to assist the ramp up, with the empowered version being the emergency button.

[@baermane]

oh yeah good point

[@thix_gaming]

Thank you esgoo for reading this, as we're unable to read

[@deedeedee5866]

We love unfiltered esgoo rambling

[@ДмитроНикишенко]

hello esgoo please take your meds

[@blebikkun]

Дмитро Никишенко 😭Почему-то с таким ником твоя фраза становится лишь смешнее)

[@Memuer]

Oh my God, yes. I love Sancho. I would die for The Manager of La Manchaland Don Quixote. This Bleed identity is going to change my life and it's going to be the best identity ever.

[@nessagates9819]

AGREED

[@WhiteFlowerBinah]

Suddenly Sky Striker Ace Raye copypasta. Agreed tho.

[@bondrewd2147]

Welcome to Esgoo’s slop live

[@akumu2225]

The 1st Kindred situation is insane

[@hescoming4544]

Lil Esgoon still thinks he can beat the allegations

[@louisfronda]

To everyone that's asking for ESGOO to meow: open the description box

[@leopoldbullot8016]

with conditionals, rhino mersault inflict more bleed count than outis. (12 against 10 in one full skill rotation). Granted, R Mersault has trouble reaching his own conditionals, but he synergise so well with the team anyway (Carmilla Mersault synergise with Red Shoes Rodyon and telepole Don fuel R Mersault's conditionals) that he's still a great addition choice for a bleed team with all four bloodfiends

[@victorpedrosoceolin3919]

Both?

[@Erentil_FR4]

@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 Could use both but you'd give up the Barber's interactions with the bloodfiend team. I guess it just depends if you can keep up bleed count without ringoutis. Sanguine desire spam should help out with that

[@x3dwany371]

@@victorpedrosoceolin3919ring sang :

[@leopoldbullot8016]

​@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 I'm not surre I undersand what you're asking

[@Goodbyeworld222]

12? iirc didn't rhino meur have like +4 S2 bleed count and +6 from S3?

[@PedroLucas-ix8tx]

I actually hoped that she would have more "activate bleed" skills, because a problem i have is the enemies getting stagerred or straight up dying without bleeding for me to get bloodfeast stacks, i dont want to kill the enemies that quickly, i want to see their cool weapons and masks, but i rarely get to use even once a empowered skill since everyone fucking dies, so yeah, i wished she had more activate bleed on her skills

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

Yeah ngl I hoped enhanced S3 to be Bleed Deluge.

[@notori-di5et]

They could probably reduce skill dmg and increase bleed dmg = same dmg , but most of the dmg come from bleed

[@hexa_dox]

You can just bring rhino and use yearning mircalla though

[@PedroLucas-ix8tx]

@@hexa_dox but i find quite lame reliying on E.G.O, and i am trying to see the bloodfiends as am archetype, seeing what they can do on their own without the help of sanguine desires, middle mersault, kurakumo hong lu, etc

[@hexa_dox]

@@PedroLucas-ix8tx but yearning mircalla meursault IS a part of the bloodfiend archetype. He literally gains bloodfeast from it.

[@salchizonda1588]

Although the kit itself doesn't inspire much confidence when it comes to bleed as a whole, I think the entire gimmick around Manager Don is simply being able to multitask and be a killing machine. Think about it, easy Hardblood generation with likely halfs or thirds of the total cap being consumed per empowered skill (with use limited to 1 per turn cuz leftmost skill) and passives that actively make her deal more damage as well as WANT to kill enemies to contribute to the team. You might want to argue "oh but she gets coin power based on enemy Bleed so you want to keep up stacks" which is valid but you have to remember that EGO exist (i mean, the entire reason you want Dulci Rod other than her support capabilities is her Sanguine Desire EGO), which brings up another interesting thing: Wishing Cairn Don Quixote's Passive "Fallen Stone Pagoda" - "Gain 2 Poise and +2 Poise Count when defeating an enemy with Bleed (3 times per turn)" Oh by the way, this EGO at uptie 4 applies 4 bleed count on hit so that helps a little bit, as well as being mostly fueled by Sloth, Wrath and Pride Sin Resources. Tldr: The Manager of La Manchaland Don Quixote is probably just meant to beat the living shit out of enemies and part of the bleed issues can be solved by EGOs as well as the last two free team slots (NFaust with Nails, Ring Yi Sang or Rhino Meursault with his Yearning-Mircalla EGO - Rose Wedge at max potency applies bleed count up to 5 times per turn) Edit: HOLY SHIT I JUST REALIZED IT'S BASICALLY A NEVER-ENDING MERRY-GO-ROUND OF GAINING AND SPENDING HARDBLOOD

[@yoisakikanade_]

hook hong lu is also really good for count

[@quannguyenhoangminh3536]

Tbh I did not care much about Bleed Count. Bloodfiends comp is doom to bleed count from the start, but they + R salt perfectly fuel Rodion's Sanguin and Don's Yearning. And depend on how this ID generates Bloodfeast, we can have 1k damage from Yearning every 2-3 turns. This could become our source of damage.

[@tsubasaxo]

close enough, welcome back mountain of corpses and lone fixer

[@Brinepool_Of_Obession]

By mountain of corpses Do you mean Mountain of Smiling bodies...?

[@tsubasaxo]

​@@Brinepool_Of_Obession i believe so it's been awhile so i dont remember what i used to spam on gebura's floor

[@lpmatthews7387]

Mountain of corpses would be the abno page Mountain of smiling bodies is the abno itself Corpses is correct

[@nakoamechi]

Bro used the Geb strat so much they forgot the original abno

[@zavos5659]

Manager Esquire, I shall now morb thy enemies!

[@GrindyVine]

25:50 i feel like in my opinion, it's not the seven days that the issue among players. Well, yes some players might have issue for it but i think it's more about "What PM COULD do in the future?" what boundaries they would take to get money without backlashes from the fans. Because when this get implemented and no one bat an eye after two, three, four or five months, they HAVE another chances to push it ever so slightly (Like... rotation for Dispense so you had to wait for it to be put on dispense or rolling for it, skins but you have to pay for it with lunacy, increasing the costs for paid lunacy, or banner with NO dispense, extremely limited, and rely on FOMO like the soon to be arknight, or even artifacts system one day) but i'm not trying to hate PM or pessimistic about their decision. i'm sure stuff like this hopefully won't happened, i still believed that limbus is not predatory or even an atrocious gacha game. But it's the fear that seemed to bother everyone, the fear that PM might be too greedy and ended up ruining the game.

[@tuppiee1752]

That would be dumb decision I doubt they'll do that KJH seems to also acknowledge this fact They'll indeed find more methods to take money in order to make the company grow while also trying to make it not too obvious to the point the game isn't enjoyable It pretty trade between consumers and company If they try taking more money from us Then the product should also get higher quality than before

[@donvitopatata]

​@@tuppiee1752KJH even prefaced the week shard change announcement with "quite a few are going to hate me for this". They are very aware of how controversial it is, so I also doubt that they will push it much further

[@Brinepool_Of_Obession]

No pls NOT AN ARTIFACT SYSTEM I DONT WANT THAT SHEETTY RNG SYSTEM IN LIMBUS

[@Goodbyeworld222]

remember last time they change bp payment method? i bet they're not that dumb to let that to happen again so don't worry to much about the future monetization

[@Keyboardluck353]

oh god can we not do this “potential future harm” thing? It’s like imagining a terrible future and blaming it on the current people when not even a hint of this future is revealed. Now is now.

[@SingerOfW]

For what it's worth, W Don's passive is pretty damn decent on a Sinking team, and it's not like you're going to run any other Sinking Don IDs in her slot anyways. Also, I do find it fitting how Manager Don's complexity is in literally managing the family blood funds rather than actually fighting. So no, I don't think someone like Season 8 Hong Lu is going to out-complex her. (I'll report back when it's actually out so everyone can see me for a fool that I am).

[@yanet5906]

I'll see you in like 8 months

[@ferrisffalcis]

19:22 "don never really had a great support passive" W corp don has a great support passive

[@flubberdoodles2836]

"Don never had a great support passive" is a wild thing to say when Lantern Don exists

[@Mikairium]

I'd say meatlantern's passive is abit too conditional to completely say "its good". Like yeah, its nice and whatever, but how many times are you going to have a high coin skill and aggro on the same slot. At that point just run base gregor passive

[@april5356]

The one thing I dislike about this ID is that her multi-Stage buff is called Hardblood for some reason, like, Sancho's boss fight calls it Armadura de Sangre which is just so much cooler sounding than Hardblood, I don't understand why they didn't just call it Armadura de Sangre.

[@sssaaaiiikkkuuu]

I dunno maybe some mirror-technology anti copyright

[@mrrp405]

We’re approaching ruina midgame levels of passive count

[@tachikomagaming2451]

exchanging actually meaningful status count for babble that is just "when x hit bigger", damn

[@mrrp405]

@ I feel like you misunderstood my point but your observation is still correct

[@colin9164]

@@mrrp405 "Okay, time to read the passives on Apoc bird I hope it's not too ba-...." *the entire book of War and Peace appearing on my screen.*

[@boredpaprika5681]

Lack of count is sad, BUT, you don't need count if your enemies are already dead

[@ismareric8576]

her passive that gives bloodfeast when defeating a enemie looks really strong

[@atlaswastakenistaken]

She’s so pretty oh my god

[@pedroandrade3187]

@therealESGOO I think the detail most people are forgetting is the fact that she amplifies bloodfeast in one of those passives as well. If that % is high enough, it can make the team extremely strong. I think lower it can go is 20%, dont think it goes past 60%.

[@ihave2cows]

theoretically, the idea behind the counter is that even though you're sacrificing a lot of hardblood to use it, you should also be generating a ton of hardblood the turn you use it because it instantly generates a shield for everyone that *could* be turning straight into hardblood, assuming you're hitting bloodfiends with self bleed. Also, it only activating on the leftmost skill and only above a threshold means that using it will often be optional rather than a snap choice. I like optional skills.

[@LCorpAyin]

13:59 silly esgoo that's what the dulcinea did

[@Nico__YT]

Very curious to see the inevitable vid covering the La Mancha IDs (and the phenomenal ID that is Priest Gregor)

[@tentacledood5784]

Looks like it's my turn to scream "MANAGER ESQUIREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" at her

[@eugeneoee352]

Refraction railway broke this man

[@StarfieldDisarray]

I think it is interesting that rather than making Bloodfiends "the" way to play Bleed they made them their own team with its own strengths and weaknesses, that still have some crossover with a regular Bleed team.

[@TheRealSinclair.]

The thumbnail feels... unESGOO like...

[@duocreator6837]

This is not powercreep, this is textcreep

[@nabuchodonozor6663]

@ESGOO you silly goose, the upgraded s3 is not last coin but after attack so it will always be after a kill, we are long past the days of liu ishmael or n faust....... their sacrifices will not be in vain

[@caellanmurphy4751]

N-FAUST IS on KILL for the s3 she doesnt even care what coin kills

[@nabuchodonozor6663]

@caellanmurphy4751 huh really? I swear it doesnt trigger sometimes

[@Hifuutorian]

The After Attack placement is wonky but you're totally right.

[@soni-kor-jp]

​@nabuchodonozor6663 no it is any coin it does not have to be the 3rd one in specific, I have been using her since season 1 and sometimes the sanity up marker is just wonky

[@enklerical1739]

“if i had to guess non-conditionally it would be a 16” the second s3 hitting ego levels for free before most of the buffs even apply

[@Captain.Mystic]

"la manchaland has to be full of theater kids with poses like these" did you NOT play the canto?

[@arks_knights]

Limbus is one of the few games where the boss doesn’t get nerfed to oblivion when becoming playable

[@All_Night]

Truly cubeman has returned to us with new slop.

[@lflintx]

Doesn't seem too powerful by itself honestly. I feel like they toned it down due to the powerful synergy with Priest Gregor and Dulce Rodion and probably they designed it to be more of a team effort ID with the others bloodfiends rather than a powerhouse by itself like Wild Hunt Heathcliff.

[@pentaperno]

No cat boy ESGOO is such a loss for the pm community

[@Man_Person_Best_Hero]

This ID was so absurd to see that a friend immediately yelled at me thinking it was designed by me cause I kept making absurd custom IDs lmao (to be fair I did make a 12 skill ID at some point lmao)

[@nightranger9555]

Sinners getting more than 4 skills got more and more common ever since BL Meur so why the fuck not? What's another 8 more?

[@uwuingallnight7381]

10:06 is very reasonable but extremely funny knowing this thing rolls 35

[@stingyyyyy2250]

Having an id's skills feel "empty" (text-wise) probably isn't a bad thing considering pm tends to be way TOO wordy with their skill descriptions sometimes.

[@fyremocha2619]

i think the bloodfiend IDs were never meant to be strictly a bleed comp or the savior of bleed(in terms of dps being significantly from bleed damage) but rather that theyre just a charge comp with more steps and self-damage. they bleed more on themselves than the enemy, and their gimmick is not to slowly grow the bleed on enemies, but instead grow bloodfeast, gaining enhanced skills that nuke the enemy, kinda like red eye penitence ryoshu and any other charge ID. i dont get why people are getting pressed just because a faction doesnt lean hard on its archetype, and instead has some new creative mechanics to spice up the game. if anything i learned to dislike factions over-reliant on their archetype, because you get countered easy based on the enemy or boss type, like with sinking and negative coin enemies. if you really want a raw bleed team, skip La Manchaland and wait for the Ring Pointillist IDs they may or may not make in the future lol

[@arararagi-san]

I saw how the third passive plays out, she ramps up her hardblood so quickly you'll get an empowered skill every other turn!

[@ender1546]

Hot take - looking at Season 5* IDs I think PM tries to set up a trend of paying less attention for maintaining statuses and cash out on smaller stacks instead. So maybe the "Bloodfiend problem" is not really a problem. Only time will tell.

[@rotonek2887]

Same thing with recent sinking ids

[@Drooonk]

season 7? i thought we are at season 5

[@ender1546]

@Drooonk it's easy to mistake things when you got 3 cantos in season 1 and then it's one canto per season

[@hungry_rabbit9032]

​@@rotonek2887So the recent sinking IDs are literally monsters in terms of status imposition, especially the mansion debuff

[@eggseed6543]

Imo I'm happy with anything that doesn't disrupt the ludonarrative

[@bestpriest2224]

Now we need another La Manchaland ID which gives a shit ton of Bleed count.

[@michaeltulus4582]

Don't forget that Don also only need Hardblood II to use empowered S3, while the rest need tier III.

[@ЛунныйКролик-й9и]

I gonna admit, i kinda like a simplicity of her skills. With unbreakable coins it represents her power, like she doesn't NEED tactics and tricks. Its just a wibe btw

[@AmoreyYaoiSecks]

its alright we'll hear him meow next time

[@justalurker3143]

Bloody mist, the ego gift turned Don id apparently, at least that's how it look at a glance.

[@professionalsleeper6281]

Honestly my main complaint is that all the skills are pierce despite their animations

[@fuji5400]

Dangit no meow... Next canto hong lu cope for that meow

[@Kairax]

inventing rupture and bleed skill effects. Burying them into the ground. EXCELLENT STRATEGY, EXECUTIVE MANAGER!

[@Kairax]

Fishmael and Horsecliff KEEP WINNING!

[@jaruhcaz]

Finally i can get value from my gregor killing himself after gaining +20 bleed while having bleed count

[@ishfail]

I think the lack of Bleed Count across all the Bloodfiend identities is their way of indirectly making more people use Meursault (and, by extension, his new Yearning-Mircalla E.G.O) without making a new identity. All things considered, he's still great (especially with Regret). His Count application is GREAT.

[@sashasasha5551]

I can't say that this is the case, because in the second skill you need to have 7+ speeds, and without wallop it will be difficult to do this. Of course, you can use the ego crown, but usually we want to implement 2-3 skills in the ring, and not throw the ego at speed, which will not help many. In this case, I think it's better to take ryoshi's kurokuma, which will give more stable stacks without conditions for random.

[@Gspoink]

​@@sashasasha5551From real use experience, I could argue in favor of R Meur that he's really worth. His skill cycles so that if you get 1 s1 and 1 s2, his s3 just inflict 6 bleed and you're just fine with count on priest and princess+occasional huge Ring Sang count for the other cycle(not like he doesn't apply bleed count outside of that, his s2 conditions almost never proc for me and he still do fine). His WAW EGO at low speed stil has use as a count positive ego. Basically if you don't do absolute lust res that turn he can do big counts and delay the lust nuke to next turn. Ofc he still has his biggest nuke after the enemy got stagger. He also clash slightly better than Kk ryoshu if he needs to. She still on bench because her passive tho. Don't know what do you mean by implement 2-3 skills in the ring, I assume double slotting ring sang? Because I just disagree with doing that, as of now more and more battles will be chains and affording double slot is hard. Moreso if you wanna run manager don which likes her other 3 bloodfiends.

[@darksoulsismycity]

11:25 they don't know it's +Ayin Bleed Count

[@thedrake5072]

I think the most interesting thing about her will be supporting the other bloodfiends (Shield, Bleed reduction) and managing her Hardblood. Personally I'd add Rhino Meursault in for Bleed Count + Flower and then Twoslot Either Don or Bloodfiend Rhodion with the two other Bloodfiends as 1 slot.

[@FernandoJCruz-kt1zo]

These are NOT bleed units. These are Charge units bruh, lmao.

[@riverajustinmarks.]

17:00 I really wished the same was for Kimsault. Imagine if he turns into his distorted form when his passive activates from his allies dying, it would've fit so much. Although I think there's a mod that does this I still wish it was the real thing.

[@mildapathy4472]

I think Don Quixote having empowered skills based on the blood fiends your playing will be a very interesting mechanic in the future when we get better bleed ids . It will beg the question of what if you want to run slightly worse bleed ids to empower donquixote or if you want to sacrifice an overpowered skill for better bleed application. It will also be interesting to see how there will be multiple variations of bleed teams thanks to this id. One more bleed application focused and one more focused on blood fiends also regarding the enhanced counter I’m very interested to see how it is used, specifically in regards to unbreakable coins. You probably want to use it in turns where your gonna take a lot of aoe unbreakable coins or on turns with unclashes or a lot of status effect damage.

[@Tiecelle]

I don't mind the amount of passives. I daresay it makes me hyped, even, because it takes me back to 6-41 (hell, maybe even the PROLOGUE) and clicking on those characters' tabs - who mind you are pretty much the pinnacle of power we've seen so far - to see their passives fits with what they said about the powerscaling of the Sinners themselves; the ever increasing power of identities they're able to mirror themselves into is creeping closer toward those guys'.

[@societalmenace7952]

If the "dont die to bleed lol" effect isnt capped it fixes an issue with priest gregor in mirror dungeons where his self bleed gets multiplied by bleed gifts causing him to just fully explode

[@kakoytazabar]

Nah, dog, Don had a lot of great support passives: Pierce damage up on base. Healing for the aggro targets from Lob Corp. Slash up from Shi. Gaining more poise from BL(in non MD is useful).

[@Puffman728]

That support passive + pequod heathcliff...

[@delirare]

Considering that she will be powering up the leftmost skill,using her normal counter will be possible on her second slot. Now,the problem for that will be on Focused Encounters,as the only way she could win the second slot is by getting an ally killed or going tobattle with one less ally

[@AnIdeamostIndegenous]

WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE BOSSES SUFFER LIKE WE HAVE WITH THIS ONE (They boutta feel the power of Unbreakable Coins).

[@tachikomagaming2451]

except its not even aoe spam, with absurd count inflictions you cant avoid leading to cheap staggers from actual bleed stacks exhausting everything and would you look at that whole count presence in only counter and s3-1, how plentiful

[@YanYanicantbelievethistakenffs]

We were expecting pagecreep but we got ecuation creep. LETS GOO

[@ano2846]

sir a fifth variable has hit the counter skill

[@Amirrorofmirrors]

1:54 I think they only showed the attack weight for the alternate version

[@Pololol974]

Hi esgoo, you were my top 1 youtuber this year 🎉

[@impoverlord3049]

I like this way of motivating the player to use the team of the season. They are not the strongest characters in the city anyway. Wild Hunt Heathcliff and Manager Don Quixote are ordinary Urban Nightmare threats. It is just expected that we will get characters much stronger than them and they will not be as relevant as they are now. And this way of interesting the player to use the themed team before it loses relevance with the arrival of stronger characters seems very good to me.

[@azeria1]

Idk she had a debuff making her around are level during her fight she could easily be star of the city if blood red night was

[@caellanmurphy4751]

@@azeria1 tbf that wasnt really even a debuff that was just straight up hesitation to fight. all other bloodfiends though yeah they were debuffed

[@azeria1]

​@@caellanmurphy4751which definitely would have made them all star of city level threats that might be why hana was they maybe they wanted evidence of high threat blood fiends to classify it as a star

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

​@@caellanmurphy4751 So yeah, mental debuff

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

Wait a sec, remind me, isn't Urban Nightmare the threat level right below Star of the City?

[@asquil7805]

9:35 the on-kill condition applies after attack, not on the last coin, so it's fine even if the frail minions die to the first coin.

[@mrsheeplove7537]

I feel like you're overestimating bleed count a little (much like a lot of people who I'm assuming aren't playing the bloodfiends). Between Ring Sang and N Faust alone you're fine against 1 enemy/part almost regardless of your skill order and enemy attack pattern (and speaking of Ring Sang, having that token rupture is actually quite nice to meet his requirements early sometimes). Apart from that the 3 current bloodfiends are also enough to keep up bleed on just about anything with some finesse. This is why the healing (and in Don's case more damage on missing HP) is so nice, because sometimes you can tank an attack to force it later in the turn order and build up more bleed count. In fact I'm currently struggling with my bleed potency being very slow to build up, and having one more ID that seems to do that well feels good. And finally, if you're really struggling with bleed count because the enemy has many parts that attack a lot, you can just swap Outis to ring or someone else for Rhino Meursault and you will never struggle with bleed count, and all of this is JUST with skills, so not even assuming Sanguine Desire. The only thing that sucks for me is that I need to shelf EGOs Ryoshu because then I'd probably struggle with count. I also feel like you underestimate Outis a lot, she often does the most damage on my team, and when she doesn't she's just slightly below Ring Sang (barring any statisical anomalies, and this is including fights with only 1 target), and that conditional +2 count on S1 is quite big for keeping up bleed with only the bloodfiends. This is obviously only in bleed teams, for good stuffs teams Molar is likely better. Finally I think there's a chance those upgraded S1 and S2 will be higher than you'd normally think because spending all my Hardblood for a 13 total 3-coin skill seems really unappealing unless I really need that bloodfeast, and for what? More hardblood? Probably S3 will still be higher than both, but I'm guessing empowered skills like this won't conform to our standards. Also because they must be shitting their pants with this ID specifically being the one to introduce the 1 week wait on seasonals, because if they make her too weak then most people won't feel inclined to pull and the main complaint from the community that the change won't make them more money, will be proven right. And since people can still get her for free the next week, there really isn't much downside to making her too strong. I'll be pulling no matter what because I have enough to pity her and the Walpurgis banner when it releases, and because Don is my favorite sinner and so I've been waiting for her seasonal highlight ID since I started playing. As an aside, I mostly don't mind the change as I wait on dispensing most seasonal IDs until they've all been released so I have a higher chance of not wasting my seasonal guarantee tickets anyway, even if waiting on Cpt. Ishmael was painful with my resonance team being my most used at the time. If anything it might be healthy for most gacha gamers' mentals that they can't get instant gratification, we're still blessed that we can even straight up buy anything we want with just in-game currency in a supposed gacha game, no randomness required* (although I guess that changes with the crossover event) *Unless you count the boxes giving you a random amount Sorry for the wall of text, I shoulda prolly just made a reaction video, but if you got this far I wish you a good day and the strength to wait even if the temptation is strong ^^

[@bio.5685]

“After attack: Gain Bloodfeast up to % of enemy max HP on kill.” That one line can save the entire Bloodfiend comp, if it’s capped among the 300-400s with 30% max hp. Please KJH, I prayge

[@trapcard1213]

GIVE ME MY MEOWWWW

[@KeiosKod]

The bleed/rupture wasn’t ever gonna happen, let’s be honest. If neither Gregor nor Rodya were actually heavy rupture supports, Don definitely wasn’t gonna be the one, since she always gave off the feel of being the bruiser ID for this faction, especially after her story boss battle. Shimmering is definitely for Gregor, and given that more Shimmering is applied the more total Bloodfeast has been consumed, it should be for when he starts dipping low. Considering the lack of bleed count application, and assuming Sanguine Desire isn’t used (I wouldn’t even say that it’s best to rely on the EGO for long-term Bloodfeast generation), Gregor’s definitely meant to generate most of the Bloodfeast you’ll be using, though Don’s enhanced S1 will probably help contribute too since her passive stops her from dying from using it, which means it’s probably pretty hefty (at least after being boosted by gifts in MD). If the bleed damage to the shield Shimmering applies is counted as a separate instance from just bleed damage your allies have suffered, it’s probably an additional boost to Bloodfeast generation instead of just a shield buffer. I know some people are disappointed at the lack of bleed count in the kits of the Bloodfiend IDs, but I think that disappointment is making people miss out on how much direct skill damage the IDs and the bleed EGOs we’ve gotten can do. I’ve seen people mostly focus on Sanguine Desire just for its utility in keeping the bleed stack up, but Don and Meursault’s BP EGOs as well as Ryoshu’s Contempt, Awe all combo amazingly well together. Don’s EGO is also primarily boosted by total Bloodfeast consumed, so I wouldn’t deride Barber Outis for not applying as much count as Ring Outis when she can deal loads of damage in addition to hastening Bloodfeast consumption (she eats up more of it than Rodya, and I imagine Don’s the same, which would leave Outis and Gregor to be the primary consumers with their S2s).

[@Koishi_Satorii]

it's the same shit with rupture, Cinq Mersault is an amazing rupture unit but people only focus on count this count that and look away the absurd amount of %dmg these units have unless the enemy have a really good amount of skill slots or skills with4+ coins,ring sang+hook lu are more than enough count for most of time

[@hungry_rabbit9032]

​@@Koishi_SatoriiThey stopped scolding Saint Meursault a long time ago when they saw how good and simple it is, he is played through talismans, lol.

[@Koishi_Satorii]

@@hungry_rabbit9032 i know,the point is people always bitching about X id not having count, like it's the end of world, then realizing after some time that...the id in reallity is good ? 🤯 it's not even like bleed suffer much from count,maybe they should use their brain and take weak one-side to not waste in tie lol

[@TheOtherLPer203]

Worth noting: Her skill 2 has attack weight for FREE when not empowered. She doesn't consume any Hardblood when using it unless it's empowered. At least, assuming that being missing isn't a typo, anyways.

[@uGuardian4]

This also might result in some curious gameplans involving running her towards the back end of chain battles. Have other bleed characters build up count first or alternatively just have the other bloodfiends die off so she enters the field with full buffs. I'm curious how that's all going to play out.

[@championoffate6778]

I think that all her skills have a nice versatility to them in their enhanced form and have a use case scenario. Skill 1 can be used in a staggered enemy to trigger bleed that would otherwise sit there. Skill 2 having attack weight. Skill 3 being your nuke. Her counter handing out shields to allies means that she can help survival in case of an enemies unbreakable aoe. Sure count might crop up and that’s where the team building also pops up more. Ring or Barber, is count worth the enhanced aoe skill. Who fills out the last two slots? Ring sang, rhino, n Faust all have a viable shot at it.

[@bottomtext3063]

Can’t wait for that nuke of an ego to be even more busted after she comes out

[@maxoublue1]

For the Support Passives, Don doesn't have that bad of a support passives list, mainly with Divide in Two (Fastest ally deals 10% more damage) and Broken Spirit (Fastest Ally gains 1 Final Power on their first skill). And for Priest Gregor, for me, that would depend on the following Intervallo, specifically if they keep giving ways to gain E.G.O. resources outside of skills. I really liked how there's quite a few ways to gain resources from other sources, such as the enemies in the shooting gallery and Dulcinea's fight, which helps Resonance Teams in using their more sparce E.G.O.s (looking at you, Yi Sang), so if this trend keeps going into the Intervallos, I'm going to use Priest Gregor, since I won't have to rely so much on Pirate Gregor for my only source of Sloth in my Prenvy team.

[@averageanger7092]

Our first true "Objet De Art" I.D., if you will. This is like realizing you'll get to actually use Xiao, Iori, anda Kali's keypage, including their mass attack(s). Its not literally using a boss page, sure, but still utterly busted. Literally, unbreakable coins on a Non-Ego is fucking crazy.

[@ripdoombrins_limited4496]

are we gonna ignore those juicy offense lvl up that stacks indefinitely, might fix the bleed problem

[@AGreatTsunami]

I just want to put this for you to think, Esgoo: Every Outis ID is a rupture ID if you battle start Superbia Ebony Thorn, so Barber also is a RupBleed unit. :3c

[@rilvex3200]

you know, if you build a team with ring sang, R mersault/Red eyes ryoshu, blood fiend outis, gregor, rodion and don, you can spam garden of thorns gregor all you want. Worth it.

[@MindWhipEnjoyer]

On the topic of C2 being a big Hardblood spender I think it's really just as simple as "there's no big incentive to banking at 30 hardblood," so here's another big spender (defensive), especially important if you're Pos1 in a chain battle. S1-2 probably only spends 10, S2-2 wastes hardblood if there's not enough targets for the extra weight, and you're not gonna have your S3 all the time. We'll have to wait for the unpowered skill bloodfeast-to-hardblood numbers, but I anticipate her to be the opposite of Princess Rodion where she drinks blood like fucking crazy. Rodion-like passive ramp looks very promising, and here's hoping she drinks at Outis rates (up to 40-60 per skill) instead of Rodion rates (20-30). On a seperate note, Rodion S2 + Sancho defensive skill drinking everything at combat start and forcing Outis S1 to self-bleed and give 2 more thorns/hardblood (4 with egogifts in MD) is gonna be so funny, and, surely, surely sloth + wrath generation and ANOTHER big-hitting lust S3 will save Bride Gregor.