Mark Zuckerberg: Meta, Facebook, Instagram, and the Metaverse | Lex Fridman Podcast

Mark Zuckerberg is CEO of Meta, formerly Facebook.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
5:36 - Metaverse
25:36 - Identity in Metaverse
37:45 - Security
42:10 - Social Dilemma
1:04:16 - Instagram whistleblower
1:09:01 - Social media and mental health
1:14:26 - Censorship
1:31:35 - Translation
1:39:10 - Advice for young people
1:44:58 - Daughters
1:47:46 - Mortality
1:52:19 - Question for God
1:55:25 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors below to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: 5:36 - Metaverse 25:36 - Identity in Metaverse 37:45 - Security 42:10 - Social Dilemma 1:04:16 - Instagram whistleblower 1:09:01 - Social media and mental health 1:14:26 - Censorship 1:31:35 - Translation 1:39:10 - Advice for young people 1:44:58 - Daughters 1:47:46 - Mortality 1:52:19 - Question for God 1:55:25 - Meaning of life Sponsors: - Paperspace: gradient.run/lex to get $15 credit - Coinbase: coinbase.com/lex to get $5 in free Bitcoin - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex and use code Lex25 to get 25% off - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium

[@dreforeman1707]

GOAT

[@wixardo]

Mark give me the Zucc

[@vanyakalinka8305]

5:39 Mark Zuckerberg takes the infamous Captcha test.

[@TheThriftShopSampler]

With respect to framing: great and poignant introduction

[@stable-shadow]

Well done young poet, your on track to establish the balance, and dignity. Very proud of your journey, see you in the ether.

[@lgc41004]

Right out the gate with the "am I a robot test" lmfao Lex is a legend

[@4eyedperson]

Fantastic! 🤣

[@notyourdad]

@Lala failed the robot test.

[@musikinspace]

@@LeighRobinsonBushcraft a power move.

[@IntermittentStabbing]

@Lala Thotbot

[@mykolas566]

There were cuts though, I bet he failed the first attempt

[@BadLipReading]

The traffic light test got me good. Well done, Lex

[@TheMonteCarlo]

Nobody could have done it better, honestly. Perfect.

[@AccordingToMyBrain]

Legend 🙋‍♂️

[@sonny_grim]

Pls make a video from this cast lol

[@deathafi]

@Mike Gavrilov 5:37

[@russpekt155]

@Peter Mckiernan A Very shallow post on a very important subject about social media platforms your using Just thought that needed to be pointed out

[@bitcole]

Lex: "Bathroom break? Mark: "Sure." Lex: "That was another test."

[@justinlawlor3898]

Lex is hilarious

[@fattestallenalive7148]

timestamp?

[@thefountain6634]

Timestamp pls

[@sacababe]

Mark: I know..

[@victor6010]

.

[@paradisianway]

Damn, AI has improved A LOT. I could almost mistake him for a human now.

[@Jasher53]

Lol

[@THEMAX00000]

Are you talking about Lex or the Zuck?

[@v1rat.]

@@THEMAX00000 both

[@Gabriel_F4924]

AI interviews alien

[@Joseph_Omega]

@@Gabriel_F4924 And as I looked from one to the other, I could no longer tell the difference ...

[@ASiggPack]

"Can you circle all the traffic lights please" Zuckerburg laughing because he already did a system update to to beat the CAPTCHA's

[@apocalypticbean]

thavage

[@joseavendano2140]

HAHAHA

[@healthamongstus710]

xD

[@healthamongstus710]

Fellow Jewish brother, but yeah, so much censorship. :/ Centrist.

[@healthamongstus710]

Mark makes a lot of sense though. :p

[@DannySullivanMusic]

The devs have got to be thrilled with how human Mark sounds in this patch.

[@PLVC3BO]

Underrated comment right here, because it's funny, but also true.

[@alexoolau]

According to Le Bon, group intelligence is defined by the dumbest member, not smart one. So in a social network, the dumbest idea always prevail over smart one. The free speech end result is consensus on the most stupid idea. "Group decisions - my perhaps jaundiced view is that it is close to impossible for outstanding investment management to come from a group of any size with all parties really participating in decisions" - Warren Buffett.

[@clodieclod]

The amount of botted comments and likes trying to fix zucc's image by commenting weird stuff about how human and relatable he is is so hilarious.

[@groundcontrol6876]

@@clodieclod What do you mean by botted? Like actual bots posting comments or just "bots" whom I see everywhere (highest concentration I run into is on the road lol) who just read the comments and copy what everybody else is saying as opposed to just posting a genuine comment they came up with while watching the video. I ask because I now think that most of the people on the comments section aren't actually people, but just a mix of AI and other, more crude bots like the reply girls.

[@kostas666lelapas3]

Depends on the shtoyle

[@qs2668]

Lex: makes a thoughtful, somber introduction about the importance of honest deep conversations also Lex: proceeds to immediately troll Mark right at the beginning

[@almakaya2400]

didnt troll him hard enough . Lex is drinkin the meta kool aid , sadly . What a bummer.

[@tartuffethespry]

Lmfao having him circle the stop lights to start was the funniest thing I've seen in a while

[@sniper1444]

Zuckerberg should have acted confused, said "maybe later" and slid it back across the table.

[@eazyE93]

Fucking captchas

[@Sam-um9nu]

@@sniper1444 that would have been the human thing to do

[@PsychedelicBroccoli]

Brilliant 😂

[@sniper1444]

@@Sam-um9nu Wo...youre right! Lol

[@briancarpenter1051]

This is either going to be the most human conversation Zuckerberg has ever had or the most robotic conversation Lex has.

[@Grant3758]

Or both? Lol good point

[@damianketcham]

…….the most robotic.

[@ethanharvest4593]

LMAO I see that you're touching on the same thing I was… I thought it was funny through watching this- Lex DID DO a phenomenal job! That said- Mark kept his security parameters in place. throughout the entire interaction Mark was still the amalgamation of the perceivable veneer he wants us to see.

[@benroberts1446]

If it's super robotic... well at least the robo lover boy can enjoy himself (perhaps the audience may not as much)

[@MacEwanRobert]

I watched a demo of graphics cards & unity (something or other). We are there with photorealistic. Not sure how close to we are with this headsets. Would be wonderful we get there. To travel around. Photorealistic worlds to explore or even our real world. I very much look forward to Metaverse.

[@chris.soonja5879]

I'm glad to hear what a person says, and not just hear what other people say about him. Valuable.

[@ftb282]

Have to agree, never been a fan of mark zuckerberg but realise I've only been fed information about him via an algorithm that tries to get an emotional reaction, or whenever he's in the news for something meta did. It's refreshing to hear him just talk. It's still hard to say where his heart is at and how I feel about his work but his ambition and ideas are interesting.

[@frankjonestba]

I find that what some people say about him disappointing. Disappointing in that, it seems to me, that people are doing what seems to be a popular narrative about Mark Zuckerberg. Describing him as unfeeling, like a robot, dehumanizing him, and dehumanizing Lex too. What I see are two people who are thoughtful and with that thoughtfulness they can sometimes make such well considered responses that those responses are outstanding and so liken that precision to a robot rather than acknowledge the thoughtfulness of their responses. I wish the interview was longer and hope they share another conversation. It seemed to me Mark Zuckerberg alluded to his openness or even interest in doing another. Hopefully he is not discouraged from the comments section of this video. I'm sorry if my sentence construction isn't great... I just woke up but wanted to finish off the rest of the video and, unexpectedly, feel the impulse to do this comment -all while feeling a little sleepy lol.

[@deeky1239]

Most of his critics are complete ideologue morons

[@jin6000]

Nice try robots.

[@founkee]

@@jin6000 Nowadays every smart answer is considered "being a robot". What a sad world.

[@slothguy_]

it's amazing to see two AI talking to each other

[@victorkreig6089]

And neither of them once talked about being shut down and put into storage, truly a step forward

[@AliS-go3nt]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@NefariousEpoch]

Lex has finally interviewed the most advanced robot ever made.

[@duftcola]

You just took the words from my mouth

[@nineinchnailzPSN]

He interviewed himself?

[@martinecomerciaser1811]

Love it 😂

[@Skindoggiedog]

ever*

[@pratn]

He even gave him the "I'm not a robot" test

[@dalebrindley7818]

For most people, this will actually be the first time they have seen Mark in a free flowing conversation with someone they trust to make it as genuine as possible. Massive respect to Lex. He's an incredible human/AI

[@ghostphoto1789]

All I see is two cyborgs here passing the Turing test

[@jimmygervaisnet]

@@ghostphoto1789 LMAO! XD

[@scottmatznick3140]

@@ghostphoto1789 eh, that Mark Z-1 isn't terribly convincing, honestly. Le-X has a far softer, more human quality.

[@ashleyromero5302]

I’m one of those persons! It’s excellent

[@Dan16673]

@@ghostphoto1789 yup.

[@sproggs]

I just discovered your channel from your interview with Todd Howard and I gotta say I'm pretty much an instant fan.

[@Josh-td2jb]

Same here. Came here seeking ES6 info and stayed for the great interviews.

[@samwade4380]

Haha same

[@samwade4380]

Lex speaks like literature

[@suzakico]

I enjoyed the talk. Skipped some but went through in one go. Most interesting part was the last several minutes. Thank you! Well done.

[@xmidge3851]

This is probably going to be the best PR move on Zuckerbergs behalf of his whole career. It somewhat humanized himself to a degree… that or the AI has been upgraded not sure

[@thebrunoserge]

Well yeah he's human - and not a particularly intelligent or capable one at it. That's the alarming thing about these billionaires

[@PRICEX]

@@thebrunoserge Lmao at you thinking zuck isn’t intelligent. I’m not defending him but he’s obviously an intelligent person. I bet you’re a real Einstein

[@mattharandi7912]

The audacity of some of these people... lol

[@thebrunoserge]

@@PRICEX oh yeah if you consider this dude intelligent hanging out with me would absolutely blow your fucking mind

[@cp3190]

@@thebrunoserge If you had any semblance of intelligence you wouldn't make such a comment even as a troll.

[@lassesteen5274]

our way of expressing these concepts always attracts me, and nothing, but nothing compares with it-- the tone, the depth of spirituality, I can't put it into words. Your Manifesting Manual is something I can read over and over and soak up. kzbin.infoUgkxzpa8CIfZcihW4Z0F_ja0QF3W9KIatrsq I am in process of making the routine a solid part of my life, and it has made a difference! I LOVE your 12 meditations too! I know I am a different person after 9 months with Super Manifestor, and in process of continued positive change! You deserve accolades every day of the year! Keep on with everything, and as we say in Spanish, ANIMO! Lots of love and every blessing to you both.

[@MrCallingoccupants]

It pleases me that this guy was lucky enough to get an interview with the great Lex Fridman.

[@weirgregory]

Lex made him appear more human, even relatable

[@a1254m]

It's the other way around. 😆

[@iamwhoyousayiam6773]

@@a1254m Money doesn't make you great

[@a1254m]

​@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 AGREE ... and who's talking about money anyway? Still, objectively regardless of money Mark still a person with much bigger impact for the world in general, so far.

[@thequattro4219]

@@iamwhoyousayiam6773 It's ironic that Mark said so too in this discussion lol

[@Bella-1969]

Your introduction was so true, heartfelt and personal on so many levels. I appreciate you and how you impact the world through conversation & knowledge…Thank you

[@foolish.intellectual9967]

I lowkey love his little intros very personal and feels like your learning about him on a personal level

[@henryksienkiewicz9464]

Milking is sweet from Hell

[@deutschlandfurimmer2554]

Had to check to publish date on this. Your intro now makes sense.

[@AlokSardesai]

It is fascinating to me how far we've come....from an AI interviewing humans to an AI interviewing AI.

[@matthewjaggers3975]

Lol. This podcast actually humanized Zuck more than I thought could be possible. He's just a huge nerd that wants everyone to come over and play at his house because he has the coolest new toys. Metaverse though is going to be the most epic flop of any new tech. People are finally coming around to the idea that walking in the woods by yourself or with a friend has more value than playing video games or designing a new dragon avatar. Go outside and enjoy the real world, and never buy a stupid virtual shirt!

[@exiledhebrew1994]

lol

[@shpongled587]

Good one, sir!

[@matthewjaggers3975]

@Dox KZbin Employees Thank the lord!

[@armr6937]

@@matthewjaggers3975 It might be early but an OASIS-esque internet may well be in our future, it would simplify access enormously for the great majority of the planet, and soon enough Starlink to support it.

[@MrAdamChristopher]

Podcasts are the future. You can actually get to know and understand who a guest is, instead of seeing them play "truth or dare" on a talk show.

[@JB-xx3dq]

The present.

[@spencerclark7122]

Well said brotha

[@tminustech]

Radio shows have followed the same format for decades prior to the internet. Podcasts just use the internet rather than a radio to broadcast, and takes advantages of the conveniences and easy of access of digital media.

[@kuntahouen3835]

@@tminustech Very good point, but for my generation and younger we forget that radio even exists.

[@lapx1]

Danger of that is people are going in to many directions.

[@andrewgibb8846]

I’ve just recently discovered Lex and his interviews. I find them fascinating so far. It reminds me of Charlie Rose, where there’s no audience or graphic distractions. That pure conversation setting is incredibly enjoyable to absorb every bit of this valuable information. This interview specifically, I have a new found appreciation for Mark and his relentless determination to find the best way forward with Meta. He gets a bad rap from others in social media, after hearing this, I think he’s very under appreciated as a pioneer in this interface. Thank you both Lex and Mark for all this information to consider. 👍🍻🇨🇦

[@fp-ko7vg]

Consider Joe rogan podcast

[@janMayer99]

You are so naive.

[@andrewgibb8846]

@@fp-ko7vg Love the Joe Rogan experience 👍

[@andrewgibb8846]

@@janMayer99 I’ve been called worse.

[@yulelapel]

Yeah sir i found it just fascinating, far better than logan paul's shitty impaulsive podcast

[@gazels11]

Your introduction was everything. I hope most men are more like you in their hearts than we know. If they are, our world has great hope. Thank you for being.

[@aspaceghost5069]

The fact that he gives him a Captcha test before starting the interview is legendary.

[@nataSoN]

helL Oh welL

[@infinitel00p94]

Deadpan too.

[@hestermofet6350]

The R2R equivalent of a handshake before a chat.

[@CH-bp3bj]

And he does it with such deadpan, almost robotic like. HAHA

[@kasberkhof7958]

That and the If he dies, he dies meme

[@NoBody-mr9ck]

It's weird hearing two AI bots talking about the fear of death, when it means nothing to them.

[@Ant-Tayo]

Underrated comment

[@TheFreedomGypsy]

@@Ant-Tayo Absolutely.

[@DOCTORKHANblog]

What a way to deny their humanity my guy.

[@geeksvendetta5333]

The difference is, Lex has a soul and hes honest ;)

[@ventarfield7115]

you are so right.

[@waltanderson8337]

Thank you for this. I really enjoyed the entirety of this conversation.

[@theCREguy]

I just happened upon your interview with Mr. Beast after learning more about him. I am blown away about how interesting and informative your podcasts and videos are. I'm extremely grateful I fell into your videos and now seem to struggle with finding the time to consume as much of your content as I can. Thank you Lex.

[@93palm]

Knowing that Lex Fridman built Mark 20+ years ago in his mothers basement and seemingly hasn’t kept up with him as the AI has gone on to make a huge name for itself in tech really makes this whole conversation come full circle

[@zarmeza]

Yeah all the people acting surprised that Mark looks "most human" are forgetting about developer bias, you know how your creation ticks and know what to ask. Leave it to QA/Production to make it crash with a question or two.

[@dergerat_4542]

this is to much for me🤣

[@goodlove9421]

Have you seen this clip of Lex and Mark?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKPLZn5-jtaXmZo It’s too funny!! 😂 🤖

[@shable1436]

That's Elon

[@generalturkey3047]

Lmfao!😂😂😭

[@kevalan1042]

Love Lex, but I can't imagine a more awkward pair of people to advocate for the importance of eye contact 😄

[@davecoates2308]

Hahahahaha

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@irrelevantideology9640]

Bro that's almost exactly what I thought. 😂 Just not as much with lex.

[@vanityscar424]

well played.

[@kirkulate]

Oh, that's funny. Nice one.

[@m4dalex478]

That was amazing, thank you so much for managing to get him on your podcast, one of the very few podcasts suiting people like him.

[@garrycremin4202]

Very interesting Interview. When facebook started I got involved. I loved the group events. Im part of a huge Vespa and Lambretta Scooter scene here in Ireland. A club could post an event and it gave everyone the oppurtunity on one page to organize meet up along routes, who was attending and tech details. I loved it. As a cranky 50 year old who is and loves been anti social...........actually engaged because it was effortless and I enjoyed it. The main feed was full of my friends and I could see what was going on in their lives. I got involved. Then over time it began to change. Had to go looking for my friends feeds. Ads that I had no interest in. Then difficulty seen the comments and had to click a few times just to see what people were saying. Then it got to the stage where it was just the most prolific and needy posters and commentators that I saw and it became annoying. The constant changes to the format turned me off. I haven't used facebook in years and never will. My point: Mark ruined his own product and knew it but didn't care. He ploughed through his idea of 'bringing us all together' by applying his own warped idea of what people wanted. He was wrong and continued to ruin his product. But.....in investors and financial worlds- facebook was profitable which drove him more. Then the privacy issues kicked in and further ruined it. He is cut off from how people feel and cut off because of clearly doesn't have the capacity to empathise with the rest of us. This is the same person who early in years created a program that rated people by looks. A total disregard for how people would feel about getting judged on looks and appearance. This is the key to this man conscious. All he has are cliched phrases when it comes to 'human' questions and about the 'human' experience. He has no experience with humans and resorts back to just saying words. He can talk about tech issues for hours but when it comes to the human experience- his answers drip with awkwardness. Personally I hope he fails. I still dislike him.

[@superbman4088]

This is like watching two advanced AIs simulate a conversation with each other

[@user-MFTI]

My boy, you don't know how right you are.

[@iamwhoyousayiam6773]

The LF model L11.209FX Plus sounds more human and has more features

[@freeMinder]

🤣true

[@kevinking2468]

Zuckerberg Is hard to Guage and don't forget - He didn't come up with the Facebook idea himself although he did recognize it's potential and act on it... Perhaps a wolf in sheep's clothing... Not sure.

[@systemofadown945]

@@user-MFTI mark is definetley a cyborg, i think lex however is just your average russian

[@Balanced--]

Mark looks and feels more natural in this podcast. Kudos to the devs working hard to bring us this version of Mark. Can't wait to see what the next update will be like for Mark!

[@bobbyriegert5033]

He is a scam.

[@vladimirpekez3702]

hahah these jokes never get old

[@christopherkelly9985]

More natural? This guy is incredibly robotic. Welcome to the new world order: a world full of robots

[@gabrielcascaes8320]

Yeah, I noticed he even blinks a lot now. Dev's are really doing a great job, soon we will no longer be able to differentiate if he is human or robot.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

I can tell op has less than 0 brain cells

[@technosteed4644]

Best opening to an interview ever

[@kevinvil69]

most eloquent dude on the Tube by a large stretch

[@stanislavteliatnikov4787]

lex is pretty good too

[@lowtdave]

Seriously, I am really happy to see Lex has been able to create a platform where people of Zuckerberg's position are willing to go on. Just amazing and he deserves it. Congratulations

[@OfficialGOD]

Yup he's great

[@bryanortiz9658]

@@T.R.U.T.H.. lollllllllllllll

[@robv.1503]

That captcha thing you did to Mark there was priceless, Lex...🤣

[@rawdio.docdar5715]

Lex, love your calmness and intelect, so polite yet precise, thankyou, we thankyou.

[@ian9894]

What a powerful introduction. You really struck me with the array of sentences and statements you made. I fear nothing. I am inspired through you and your words your out look on life. I will take this energy to apply to my own life and actions and act out of love and communicate woth as many people. Thank you Lex. And thank God for letting me have this opportunity in life. Thankful.

[@Foukez]

Is weird that this interview was not weird in the way Zuckerberg interviews are. The upgrades mark got are awesome! Congrats to the engineers team.

[@MtnMichael88]

Epic team of engineers over there at Meta 🤟🏽💎

[@24jake28]

Bro I got a house I really wanna sell you and you seem like the type of person who would fall for a good Ad or sales spiel....hit me up champ I want all your money.

[@amaytv7205]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Engineer's team

[@ChatGPT1111]

Yeah but I think Lex's maintenance revisions to the previous release actually put him at a slight edge over Zuck's newest major release. They might have some more fine-tuning to do.

[@Loading-lg6hs]

i completely agree. It gave off a completely different vibe and made Mark feel more "human" than ever

[@thecryptokrew5603]

Lex- “can you circle all the traffic lights please” 😂😂😂 Instant classic! 💯

[@owenhoward3148]

Authenticated lol

[@mazklassa9338]

That is comedy, as though Zuck needs to prove to us, through himself secondly, that he has primary conscious agency and consent in this reality. How surreal lol

[@indianagirl500]

Loved it

[@imurpapa8120]

@@mazklassa9338 just relax godamn

[@deleted01]

I demand to know what Lex and Zuck did during that out-of-nowhere bathroom break. 42:01

[@HemiKortene420]

DUUUUDE I still can't get over your intro speech, it's truly awesome in all sense of the word. Mr. Fridman not only do you have mt deepest respect, you also have my absolute undying loyalty. Whatever you say man I'm with you, alot of people prolly feel this way too, be wise, be fearless. I fucking love you man.

[@guydebord397]

Lex, man, you’re awesome! Thanks for all of your powerful and insightful content and words, always. 🙂🙃

[@nickmajora]

Fridman: Are you afraid of death? Zuckerberg: Constraints are helpful.

[@EOh-ew2qf]

makes sense though lol we are all just going to stay in bed if we had eternity.

[@grantelbart477]

Look how nervous he got when the topic came up😂 his arm was twitching like crazy

[@daphnetruman]

@@grantelbart477 A.I. told him he's going to hell so.....

[@abdulrhmanmoh9244]

I read this comment before the end of the video and i thought this is a joke, only to realise that he actually said it

[@daphnetruman]

@@abdulrhmanmoh9244 He's such a joke. money still cant buy class. He's proof of that at least.

[@ImOtix]

“Can you circle all the traffic lights please” is the best start of a podcast in history

[@tylere.8436]

@@Void_Serenade Ever heard of self deprecation?

[@Johnb-ht1je]

Great interview Lex. I have been to many countries and my opinion is that social media increases anxiety and depression. In being on social media many people become depressed after many years of watching how others live, being poor or well off. I think that it has an affect on the brain after a while and not knowing that this increases these things. Instead of concentrating on their own lives, people worry about “keeping up with the Jones”.

[@guitnabdi]

Thank you very much Lex for what you do!!! Very intersting.

[@mindsurfer101101]

This one podcast has done more for Mark's likability than any presentation or other media he's done ever.

[@mikemaroyi7756]

I totally agree

[@krikeydial3430]

You haven't seen his sentient AI robot sex slaves.

[@mindsurfer101101]

@@krikeydial3430 not yet...

[@lapx1]

You people are crazy! Non of this is going to make humanity better. It's all image and worshipping yourselves. All about money and entertainment. Not solving real problems.

[@honeybeeblossom5846]

Yep and that was obviously 100% intentional, genius PR. Bet Lex made a pretty penny on this one

[@313Nadir]

Lex has managed to humanize Zuckerberg in my eyes for the first time, or maybe it's just that I've never heard him speak for such a long period of time unscripted and openly, or maybe the AI is just getting really good now

[@JDMKEV]

Yeah I agree..im.surprised more big figures don't do this to Improve their image..I also find a bit disturbing that I could view someone so badly without really hearing them speak like this as well Edit * upon reflection it's not so much I viewed Zuckerberg as the bad guy but more so Facebook as a whole

[@k4ir0s]

I think that's an issue with Zuckerberg. He rarely goes unscripted. Meanwhile, Musk isn't afraid to go unscripted, he shoots out some questionable tweets and smokes dope with Rogan. Musk has inhuman intelligence, ambition and work ethic - but we still see him as human because he's more open and real. Zuck should take notes.

[@alanheavey6005]

Read as I listened to Lex's ads, first half intrigued me, your last line made me properly laugh out loud.👍

[@isaacprosper6295]

haha thats what i just commented....i felt the same way

[@ferencszabo3504]

Zuckerberg is a split personality, or a good liar

[@samirkarki192]

1:55:32 Zuckerberg.exe stopped working.

[@internaut4257]

Nah his browser just had to many tabs open, but nothing his RAM couldnt handle eventually

[@julianasalem8298]

I DON´T BELIEVE YOU FINISHED THIS PODCAST WITH THE POEM "IF"! YOU ARE REALLY AN AMAZING HUMAN BEING ! I´M REALLY GLAD I FOUND YOUR PODCAST ! IT´S HELPING ME A LOT TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE, THE WORLD AND HOW I RELATE TO THEM ! THANKYOU! ALL THE WAY FROM BRAZIL!

[@zEnocYber]

WHY ALL CAPS!!!

[@uisato_]

I have to admit that I wasn't 99.9% sure of the existence of humanity in this gentleman's soul. Fortunately, this conversation got me pretty close to that number. Way to go, Lex. Your craft keeps getting better and better.

[@donharris8846]

Before this interview, did you think that Zuckerberg was Dr Evil just manipulating humanity in his lab atop Mt. Everest? 😂 Whenever people point the finger at Zuckerberg as single-handedly destroying humanity, that tells me that you don’t understand algorithms, and that you don’t take responsibility for OUR role in the poison on social media. The algorithms amplify our good and bad, they don’t create it.

[@ClaudioDrews]

Right? It's Lex work. He must have done some serious coding prior this interview.

[@TheHulksMistress]

@@donharris8846 yep. I think it’s the same with anything and everything though, people included. When something results in a negative, we very quickly forget all the positives. I haven’t used Facebook in a few years now but I LOVED it for a good 5 or 6 years in my early 20’s. I made a lot of great friends on there and it was such a great way to keep in touch with people and share media. But now people can only see it as some evil and manipulative tool. But like you said, that isn’t down to the service it’s down to the users who (for no fault of their own often) lack critical thinking skills, or who actively wish to manipulate and deceive. The kinds of people who would use any other form of media to do so, but Facebook is unfortunately perfect for nefarious deeds like that. I mean newspapers have been used for propaganda, deceit, manipulation etc for centuries. But you don’t hear people decrying the evils of the daily newspaper

[@ThepurposeofTime]

@@julesbrunton1728 could have sworn lex had a whole speech talking about cynicism

[@EmazingGuitar]

@@julesbrunton1728 the algorithms reflect human emotions. People pay attention to the negative, that’s why a positive compliment doesn’t have an emotional impact as a negative compliment. We are the algorithm, people just don’t like to take blame. Literal NPCs walking among us.

[@Shemdoupe]

How exciting that lex is finally getting to interview an actual AI

[@seanfarrell4815]

He circled all the traffic lights...

[@Trippze]

@@seanfarrell4815 Zuck has the latest AI software that can solve those puzzles

[@SnailHatan]

How exciting that everyone is making the same old overused joke

[@alanpower8234]

Im a bit old at 50 . But hearing him read IF it made me think what a great father Lex would have been to someone like me growing up. My dad and brother who I both looked up 2 died back in 1984 six months apart.Fun fact, no only was it 1984 but the school I attended was called Geroge Orwell. Dad of heat attack and brother of drug overdose. I know but just got inspired by I,F and how life may have taking different directions with a positive mature male role model setting me straight with compassion.

[@farishtanickmohammad6386]

Hey lex. Nice to meet. First time seeing your videos. Thank you for your work. Wondered and just wanted to ask if you can make a video about the books you read or love and recommend. Just few of your favorite that changed your perspective. Thanks 😊

[@kosnowman]

Thanks, Lex for doing this long-form interview, it is important for public figures like Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk to explain themselves because mainstream media and short interview wouldn't be enough

[@oiojin831]

true true

[@yednekachewgeremew1886]

In near future media should buy this self you tubers butter than any journalist can ask any issues

[@JorgeOlivares1]

These long from interviews get past the PR talking points into the actual drivers and motivations on the people driving these decisions

[@victorespino5650]

These people are extremely wealthy on a world stage and effect policy. There should be more transparency for us to get to know them.

[@RighteousBrother]

I'm just stunned this is even happening. Great going Lex, your success is massively deserved! You're a force of good in this world!

[@hazelife7366]

..Why?

[@RighteousBrother]

@@hazelife7366 if you cant see it already, you'll never know.

[@baylorsailor]

I don't understand why Zuck was so comfortable to go on this show in particular when he generally likes to hide from the public.

[@hazelife7366]

@@RighteousBrother You're stunned 2 people are talking... Zuck isn't a god mate... The fact you're stunned by this just shows how sucked up into all this you are... And if you can't see that, you'll never know

[@souldesire5932]

This isn't being a force of good promoting this..How sadly deceived people are these..While he may have good qualities, I don't know him, this isn't something that's good for the world..

[@spiffaz]

Bro, the opening monologue was the Lex version of The Pale Blue Dot. Respect and cheers.

[@sylviaowega3839]

Great interview Lex! You have become a force to be reckon with, with all the great questions you ask.

[@YeonmiParkOfficial]

Thank you for everything you do in the world, Lex!

[@Momo-sp8be]

What does he do besides interviewing people with softball questions?

[@Ipsissimus]

@@Momo-sp8be Exactly.

[@cuckmasterflex9106]

Yeonmi!!!!

[@sidahmed789]

Lex! Psych!!

[@TinKnocker69]

milky milky

[@maddogmorgan1]

Absolutely mind blowing how far robotics has come! You would swear these two are real humans

[@martijn7627]

No, one is a reptilian ;)

[@dbrad5197]

Same joke I've seen 10 times already

[@yednekachewgeremew1886]

but both have sit on different place let he is in place of fear zak in the place of let see that

[@jeer422]

love how this is in wildcats GTA 5 playlist

[@shawnconroy2949]

Your introduction speech is so powerful. It made me emotional for a few minutes. Thank you

[@edrlennonroses]

5:40 "I'm not a Robot." That's exactly what a Robot person pretending to be a human would say.

[@raymon418]

And he answers the question like a fucking robot -Then id be some computer construct hahaha

[@annaartificial4039]

Is there any possibility Lex is going to make a Podcast with maybe questions by his friends, fans and inspirations and asking them himself? He's so damn interessting and the people he interviews. love love love love it!

[@randr10]

LOL, I loved the opening. I've heard people refer to both of you as robotic, so that was especially funny.

[@JohnnyEvilsVids]

You wanna be seen as human and as having a soul? This is how you do that. This ONE single interview will do more for Zuck than anything else he will ever do. I actually got my first real sense of the man in all these years.

[@Ryurex]

very true, be transparent.

[@Elizabeth-zs7bo]

Totally agree!! I have a lot more compassion in my heart for Zuck than I did before this podcast.

[@JosephersMusicComedyGameshow]

I would not doubt that meta stock will rise in the next few days because of his interview

[@JosephersMusicComedyGameshow]

There's a thing called the Rogan bump and now they'll be the lex bump

[@henkweeds1498]

He Just said corporate bs

[@zacharywhitney7295]

So fascinating to watch Zuckerberg speak about the importance of reading facial cues while simultaneously producing none whatsoever.

[@acasccseea4434]

zug zug

[@DefneDance]

Not even a single micro expression

[@Yo-SoN]

@@DefneDance look closer boys. You are witnessing "meta expressions" Its gettin all tha pussy.

[@liquidbrainstorm]

@@acasccseea4434 work work

[@coscinaippogrifo]

Wow. I actually thought exactly the opposite. I am surprised to see how much enthusiasm there still is in him. It's a nerdy one, so maybe it's not visible to everyone. I also got a bit upset on his uneasiness at Lex' comment following the (brilliant) bot test at the beginning. I liked the idea, I didn't like the "that is a very impressive performance" comment. Zuckerberg froze for a sec, I think it's very visible.

[@mojo88bassandbourbon72]

I like the intro Lex regardless of the rest of the interview which as i type i havent watched...very well spokem bruh... You do a great.job

[@alalouis1]

Lex your optimizum is fabulous. If everyone had love and belief in the ability of humans to be good that would truly be a miracle of the world

[@jasonlind3065]

As much criticism Mark gets, kind of refreshing to hear his thoughts on Meta,AI,technology without all the dramatic bullshit.

[@Dfthg-bz3hp]

Sucks that we won't likely hear Zuckerberg questioned about Epstein connections and why he censored Ghislaine Maxwells trial coverage after visiting Epstein Island multiple times.

[@fivegkills6111]

@@Dfthg-bz3hp I love you for this 💜👍👍👍👍

[@ovoj]

Botssss

[@PratyakshTyagiBEE]

Yes zucc is a genius

[@brettshrekington]

I just finished saying the same

[@shoshilevi1579]

Dear Lex, your attitude is simply disarming. You manage to bring out the best in your conversation partners by focusing on their positive points and it is very pleasant to listen to your interviews.

[@ADPax10]

LexBot's listening parameters have been increased and 'Program Empathy' has had a recent major update. I applaud the Programmer.👏

[@BeAPickle]

Was hoping to hear about positive points of Mark - tech innovations, unfortunately nothing about React, GraphQL and other brilliant technologies from FB ((((

[@REPEATST]

Loving all of the podcasts

[@roddy2body]

The monologue at the beginning was inspired! Lex is a genuine one of a kind beautiful mind soul & human being! To me zuckerborg is just a irrelevance, FB in my opinion was a CIA wet dream for people to basically do their job for them by givin all they're most personal information (in real time) Social media actually has been pushin people apart more than bringin us together - generally speaking.. This meta verse will be people escaping reality, the line between VR & reality will become very blurred - seems a great way to keep the masses in line 🤷‍♀️ AI is a comin ✌🏼

[@gregfidler]

The best start to a podcast ever, genius

[@jw2862]

@@johnsmith1474 I see that you keep leaving negative comments on this channel. Why don’t you watch someone else?

[@garrettkensler451]

It is fascinating watching these two AI's communicate with each other. Their perspective on life is intriguing as well.

[@ranyrhoads64]

Def AI

[@JureMali]

This! ☝🏻

[@keshavbansal5148]

The joke continues, yes!!!

[@unlightenment]

fascinating indeed

[@markadam1069]

Bots for sure !

[@JinbinYang]

Thank you so much Lex for what you do for us and humanity!

[@casmar2042]

I'm 19 years old and I've always thought that, as I get older, I don't want to become the grumpy old man that talks about how "the good old days", "kids these days" or how everything used to be better. I made it one of my life goals to keep up with technology. But hearing Mark say that soon, most of our meaningful experiences will supposedly be had in a digital world like the Metaverse, I'm starting to question my original stance. First off, I don't believe a majority of humans will ever have most of their meaningful experiences in a virtual world. At least not until we reach a 'Ready Player One' level of realism and endless possibilities, a space and time that doesn't try to replicate the current world (like the Metavers is doing right now), but surpasses it by removing its limitations (like in the aformentioned movie). In such a case, I wouldn't be too opposed to this societal change. Secondly, and because I don't think this level of realism will be possible until 30-40 years from now, Metaverse and its copies will continue to feel like a massive downgrade from 'real' society and life. It misses inherently human aspects such as senses (touch (and with that, temperature and human contact), smell, taste...), and lowers the of significance of things (virtual actions/events have no repercussions in the physical world and virtual objects aren't physically *real*).

[@IDTBI35]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Lex, that is the greatest into ever “can you circle all the lights please” Love it. Much love.

[@StefanMilicevic]

Epic troll move

[@zunetrav4]

I think that part of the podcast is underrated 😂

[@boreduser12]

Someone mentioned it in the comments before this was posted!

[@IDTBI35]

@@zunetrav4 it caught me off guard. The comedians are rubbing off on lex lol.

[@messpice]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 lmfao

[@teamspeak9374]

this was actually way more interesting than I initially thought. I thought the Zuck would just go full cyborg and push the metaverse but he brought a more human version of his software today

[@ryleethrace1]

Not really.

[@AngelaKaye77]

@@ryleethrace1 agreed 💯 just confirmed my anti meta

[@Dilby123]

Good enough to sign off on the physical world ?

[@HaydenDavidson6]

I had to initiate Chuckle.exe file on your comment 😆

[@krox477]

😂😂😂

[@telsutton]

Interviews like this make me wish you could expand your format to the occasional round table discussion.... Gates & Zuckerberg v Snowden.

[@allis8379]

Love how he had him circle the traffic lights lol . Great ice breaker and just initiates where Lex stands

[@mjn6six6]

Honerstly low key shade that seems to be overlooked in the comments beyond the "hur hur mark robot hur hur" was a great take. Beyond that, honestly the rest of the interview was palatable, I need to get more woke to fully adopt the hur hur robot thesis.

[@owenswabi]

@@mjn6six6 I think you need a lithium

[@victorkreig6089]

It isn't about where he stands He asked Mark to do it because he was incapable of it himself, Lex is a Gen4 Synth

[@Skynet-zg4yx]

This interview was so much better than anything youd ever get from mainstream media. Amazing work Lex 👏👏

[@khuo0219]

Mainstream media is destroying themselves with the negativity zuck was talking about as short termism

[@malachistice8111]

given this is two hours long and mainstream media segments are closer to two minutes, i feel obliged to call you captain obvious

[@Skynet-zg4yx]

@@malachistice8111 MM actually do cut hours long convos into bite size chunks spread out. There's also a program called 60 minutes 🤷‍♂️

[@bthayil]

He’s a master of saying a lot without saying anything

[@soulsurvivor182_9]

Dancing so much around every damn question lol how is anyone not seeing through this fakeness?

[@coblerz]

Huh, didn't think he'd actually mention VRChat. I always imagine so much of what he wants as what VRChat already can be, so it's good to know he understands the freedoms of expression that users should be allowed. Hopefully Meta can translate those similar aspects to their platforms.

[@drakoan]

I really enjoyed this human conversation with The Zuck, thank you Lex.

[@Sal3600]

The zuck is the best. h8rs gonna h8.

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

@@Sal3600 wouldn't go that far.

[@Gaia_Gaistar]

I hate Zuckerberg but this is the most human i've ever seen him. I guess policy and humanity are different things, whatever.

[@drts6955]

"I want to make it a human experience. There are many human microreactions that are entire human. We want Meta to feel human. Like humans like"

[@JohnDoe-ef3wo]

@@Gaia_Gaistar Congrats....you've been fooled

[@downstairslivingroom4849]

This was surprisingly interesting and Zuckerberg came off surprisingly well. It feels like it was rushed towards the end, I wish it would have lasted longer. I'll be hoping for a part 2 where things get to go deeper.

[@gabrielsyme4180]

Zuck just had a software update. 🤖

[@baylorsailor]

I'm sure Zuck rehearsed all possible questions beforehand. He's been scrutinized so many times that he just repeats the same lines that he has memorized.

[@gravoc857]

I think it’s because Zuck was asked human questions, rather than media narrative questions. The point here was to have a conversation, rather than to target key discussions. Which is why I love the Lex Fridman podcast. Make having normal human conversations normal again.

[@tatechasers2393]

500 million spent to rig the election for Biden, next time he'll spend 5 Billion, no one should allow him in their to get away with it

[@beerkegaard]

Traditional media did a big push to turn Zuck into some kind of supervillain.

[@benheidemann3836]

“Can you circle all the traffic lights please?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bernisworlds]

@Lex: amazing Interviews & @Mark: you made an amazing Platform and also extending of Ecosystem is great made :)

[@thickpenguin4814]

what an intro by lex... Gave me chills, almost brought me to tears.

[@y488]

Same here. His sincerity is appreciated.

[@metalsoup6950]

same

[@Tesstamona]

Same 💔❤️🙏

[@indianagirl500]

Yes . Exactly True. Thank you Alex for that Intro.,

[@numetone]

Always have goosebumps on Lex's speeches. Strong words

[@royokimoto5150]

Damn, a Robot built by the CIA, Zuckerberg, having a conversation with a Robot built by the KGB, Lex Fridman. What a moment in history...

[@170kmkitsune7]

smart!

[@gamingwithdurly]

LMAO

[@electrominded8372]

It is like the Rocky sequel we never got

[@royokimoto5150]

@@electrominded8372 For real haha

[@tangerine4665]

Love Lex, this interview was intersting. I am so over social media, only one I use is Yt. Maybe it changes in the future, but right now it’s really boring.

[@ntelo19]

What a spectacular era! To be able to see 2 robots fine-tuning and interact so humanly.

[@The_Void_Staring_Back]

Props to Mark for this conversation. This is probably the most natural and relatable I've ever seen him come across in all the media he's done so far.

[@wweeks]

He sounds like an average business owner trying to find the next big thing. That is fine, but an average business owner should not have the power and influence of Meta. I wish he had the same influence as the German company that bought Budweiser. The power to influence every election in the Free World is a bit much.

[@dumpsterfire138]

Thanks. Turns out we just had to upgrade the processor in his speech board.

[@juanriver2719]

Stock price plunging, expect to see a lot more of his “human” side

[@zimmy4868]

That’s not really saying much..

[@tomgip]

Agree. This actually changed my opinion of him. Well done Lex.

[@jasperstoj]

Thanks for getting him on. I don’t think I’ve listened to a long-form podcast with Zuckerberg before. It was interesting to see how his mind works.

[@TSG07]

He’s got a pretty decent one with Gary Vee too! I think a couple of months ago

[@Sylar-451]

Lex, what are the chances this story is true; Urgent please read this thoroughly! I'm also trying my best to get this out to Alex O'connor (Cosmic Skeptic) Stephen Woodford (Rationality rules) And Drew McCoy (Genetically Modified Skeptic) Stephen Fry Johnny Harris Martin Van Beynen Or anyone who I think are seekers of truth and kindness, and could help me and listen to the whole story. Hi Sam Harris, I've been a huge fan of yours for years and found your wisdom greatly helpful in my life. Please please read this ASAP I read your book on lying recently and though it was brilliant. I have thought for a very long time that truth absolutely matters. And like you said that the only replacement for bad science, is good science. To get to the point and give a bit of context, the night before last (now the 25th of February) I was away with 6 friends, we took some LSD, then they mistook my dark humour for real danger (I've long been a fan of comedians like Ricky Gervais, Bill Burr, Jimmy Carr, Jim Jefferies and the late Robin Williams and Christopher Hitchens) They then tried coercing me into committing suicide, and if I didn't do it, they would kill me. They were trying to build up the courage to do it themselves as time went on. As they were scared for their own safety and thought this was their only option. I tried my best to assure them I was absolutely harmless (which I know I am) but failed in the end to do so. This lasted for well over 12 hours where I was terrified to move and try get out for help. I ended up getting family to call for help urging for police, but only an ambulance came, they refused to take me and insisted I went with the friends who wanted me dead. untill I ran myself for help. I was absolutely terrified and still think there is a huge threat. No one really seems to believe me so far (but now my therapist and 2 of my best friends do) and I'm hoping so much that you may be able to hear me out and help me as to where to go from here. I'm now with family and terrified to go home or get back to work and normal life. I'm scared that talking to police/lawyers/journalists will put me in more danger as I'm guessing they are unlikely to believe me at first, and I don't know the intricacies of the law surrounding their responsibilities. So I'm hoping you will believe me, and I can prove it somehow. I also don't want them charged with anything or any bad to ever come to them in any form because I don't believe in free will, and think they are good people in a horribly misunderstood situation. Another thing of importance is that I've had depression on and off for around 20 years. And after this experience where i thought I was certainly going to die, there is no way I'd ever think of suicide as an option again. and l still think the threat is active. So if I dissappear, or appear to commit suicide, I assure you this is not the case. This is no kind of joke, please, please help me. I'm willing to send $1000 worth of BTC first to prove it. I emphasize first! You can reach me on [phone] Pleading regards, Joel

[@lilpac2189]

@@TSG07 Gary Vee ruined that one tbf, I’m a fan of him but he talked way too much instead of focussing on interviewing Mark

[@sandollor]

@@Sylar-451 What do you think Sam Harris is going to be able to do for you? I'm not even sure what exactly you're asking. To just believe you? Keep speaking with your therapist friend. I have one too, they help.

[@Sylar-451]

@@sandollor thanks, I see your point, and trust me I do realize just how insane all of this appears.. For one, I have no one in my life who I've ever really been able to connect with on a scientific perspective like I get with Sam, Alex, Stephen and Drew. And it feels so incredibly isolating it's not funny. This is no one's fault, given my view and the likelyhood that there's no free will, like these people also believe. I've up routed my whole life, terrified to go back anywhere near my home, as I know there's still a decent chance of a threat to my life. I'm starting to feel a little better and safer, and with that a little clearer thought on how to proceed. But I know that lying isn't part of that. And Sam and the others I think would at least be interested enough to do a little digging and see this is no delusion. And then if they do agree it's real, surely they would have some insight as to where to go from here. Or maybe not, and I'll have to get myself out of this mess somehow. After the week I've had, nothing would suprise me now. Feel free to call me yourself if you'd like more details. Contact with a stranger might just help or at least help me reflect

[@EMMartist_official]

I watched this so many times while I lived in Jersey and now I watch it in Florida, it's STRANGELY phihlosophical to see it again

[@martymcfly88mph35]

A dem fleeing a deep blue state and their policies they voted for?

[@freedomutopuia]

Thanks Lex. This interview has made me think about a few things which I hadn't before. And certainly has changed my opinion on Mark. Well done Lex 👌🙏

[@iFadezz]

same for me, he's usually painted as a villainous figure from what i heard and seen on memes and stuff but from this conversation he seems like a pretty stand up dude

[@richardlaroche9167]

Lex has such a good heart, he can even transform revenge into a nice thing by making Zuck circle traffic lights.