Pastor reviews (demonic) movie Heretic

[@rootedsu8022]

I don't watch scary movies. Real life is scary enough 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dangrissom7791]

rightly said

[@turdferg9703]

I don't think movies being scary is the problem. You can have something that's scary and it isn't demonic. Most horror movies these days are evil I'd say, but not all of them are.

[@ThePenisyBadguy79]

I mean I’m a Christian and I’m a horror fan. This specific movie just doesn’t interest me. I’m more into slashers and animal horror.

[@enzop2835]

​@turdferg9703 Is this movie scary and not demonic? Because if it is I don't really wanna watch it

[@ThePenisyBadguy79]

@@rootedsu8022 I actually caved and watched it. It’s nothing special. It’s just a movie filled with modern horror cliches. I actually thought It sucked

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

Film serves as a reminder 1. Never enter a stanger's home 2. Always listen to and trust your "gut", and 3. Stay strapped and maintain situational awareness.

[@EarlMartin]

As a long time believer and soul conscious evangelical I loved this movie. The reason is because it forces the viewer to question what they say they believe in. This story chose to use Mormonism, but it could’ve used any denomination. My friend and I sat in the theater for 15 minutes afterwards and discussed theology and doctrine. I’m still thinking about this movie.

[@popermen694]

Thank you. We need to get far away from the whole "anything scary is demonic and needs to be ignored" mentality. If anything has caused more evil to spread, it is that mentality. More so than films showing scary things. That's for sure.

[@brandonberry861]

I saw the movie and I am a Christian. After seeing this it made me want to read my Bible anymore and know how I share my faith. We have so much Biblical illiteracy in our country if we come across a heretic we need to be prepared to share our faith!!

[@tiffanyibarra9881]

Yes. I agree. Remember Ephesians 6:17 the sword is the word of God and as Jesus defeated Satan was not by physical fighting but by the word of God. Obviously when the girl was walking through the celler there was a lot of demonic parifonali and so I felt he was dealing with demonic things which I found kinda interesting on all the movie explanation no one touched on that but anywho I use to love horror movies but had stopped when becoming a devoted Christian because yes it can desensitize us but the only reason this interest me was the fact one day before the preview came out I said it would be cool to have a escape room that to get to the next area you need to know the correct Bible verses and littely that night I went to the movies and saw the trailer which seem like the same concept but obviously more sinister. However my thoughts at the end were she really did have faith and while she prayed for him and her God saved her by the other girl waking up to kill him so she could escape. Remember about the 3 men in the book of Daniel that king nebakazezer put into the fire and God was the 4th person he saw and the man were alive because of their faith in God. But yes we need to know the word of God I truly agree.

[@tedfarabee3095]

With all due respect, I saw the movie and understood what the underlying message was. Today, we have just as many evil imposters in the church as in the secular world. We need to teach our children spiritual discernment, or they could be controlled and deceived by wolves in sheep's clothing. The movie made me think and alarmed me, which is more than I can say for any sermon I've heard in the last couple of decades. Pastors are too comfort driven and afraid to offend anyone. In this movie these girls have zero spiritual discernment. One look at the house and "no way". Since there is zero profanity in this movie it would be a great movie to watch with teens and open up some tough questions "Heretic" poses. Pastor Driscoll must be naive to what most Christian kids have already been exposed to through media. I believe more in being a "Christ Warrior" than being a fly easily ensnared in a spider's web.

[@drlongus8321]

Have you been Born Again?

[@Tyler_W]

I'm inclined to agree. Though not technically it's intention, it's actually a pretty good avenue for discussing apologetics and understanding the importance of knowing and interrogating why you believe what you believe, something everyone, but especially Christians, ought to do. His characterization of the situation surrounding this "miracle" is objectively inaccurate, which is frankly why you should always be cautious to opine on things you know little about. It also isn't telling people what they should believe. It doesn't endorse Mormonism, nor does it endorse the perspective of the villain either. In fact, it's the flaws in his attitude and worldview that cause his own downfall. In fact, the story goes out of its way to poke holes in the villain's philosophical perspective. The point of the story would be that regardless of whether or not you believe in any particular faith, none whatsoever, or if you're earnestly searching for the truth, you ought to be guided by critical thinking and honest self reflection and avoid the pitfalls of both blind faith in your own beliefs, ideological arrogance, and motivated reasoning. This is a fundamentally good message. The only potentially objectionable thing about it is if you want to argue against the genre itself. I would personally disagree with that assessment for a variety of reasons, reasons I consider to be well founded, but that's certainly an argument you can make, and you owe it to God and to yourself to follow your own conscience on this matte one way or the other.

[@jessetocker3412]

Thank you for an adult’s response. Watch the movie but use your own discernment. Cowering in fear from movie demons seems more unhealthy.

[@drlongus8321]

@jessetocker3412 lol that bc you don't know Jesus

[@drlongus8321]

@Tyler_W Anyone watching a movie like this and proclaims Christianity is deceived

[@donthesheek]

My wife and I have an immediate disgust reaction when seeing movie ads for this type of garbage.

[@Saints2024]

Why?🤣

[@jerome3354]

Really good movie you're missing out on. Don't knock it til you try it. Aren't you going to hell anyways?

[@jonah2398]

just a heads up, there is no spiritism or demons in this movie, it has a good plot twist and sets up to what seems like demons but reveals its a crazy man

[@Kurtsg10]

Understandable, but Wicked is actually worse because it's far more subtle and tries to portray the Wicked Witch as a heroine against the "tyrannical" Wizard of Oz. At least in this one, the Satanic character is explicitly evil and admits as much.

[@BlackParade01]

Fictional characters aren't real, they can't hurt you

[@GOD_favourite-q5l]

Amen. thank you Jesus Christ❤️✝️ Dear those who are reading this message, if you are having a hard time, remember that you are not alone and never give up. I wish you good health, success, love and happiness i was homeless, did drugs went into prison, where got to know God. Changed my life. Now have a home, a Husband and a lovely year daughter (Tracy), and now I'm favoured, $130K every 4weeks! I can now afford anything and also support God's work and the church....I want to share this miraculous testimony to help my brethren in this trying time's that the devil has flood the world with inflation.

[@AshleyChambers-g5k]

Our God indeed is a covenant keeping God. He is the same yesterday today and forever Co glory be to Jesus🙏

[@AshleyChambers-g5k]

But How do you do this? What do you do to have that much in that period?

[@GOD_favourite-q5l]

It is simply by digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

[@GOD_favourite-q5l]

Big thanks to Ms Teresa Alice Brenda

[@GOD_favourite-q5l]

Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me

[@josephcatsanchez6590]

Never put a Celebrity on a pedestal, they will sell their soul for an opportunity to make money

[@TheCyberMantis]

Truth. How many of them went public to tell us to vote for Kamala? That's all the proof you need.

[@JaimieSigamoney]

It's the same with making Pastor's Celebrities... they do the same

[@cardcounter21]

Try watching a movie first before 'reviewing' it!

[@aplusenglishonline7011]

I'm tired of people who claim themselves being christians living in a bubble and condemning everything and everyone who disagrees with them. I'm a reformed christian and do believe that the Bible has horror in it. Read Ezekiel 33 about evangelism and the story of Lazarus and the rich man for example. I don't watch movies that praise violence or cruelty if that's only for entertainment and not to develop the story, but do watch any movie that makes me think or even question my faith. As I go down the comments I see how hateful and full of themselves these "christians" think they are.

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

I would wager that the preview clip has pretty much all the supposed "highlights " of the film.

[@americanzero]

@@aplusenglishonline7011 I would even say the Vision of the Valley of Dry Bones qualifies as horror

[@popermen694]

@@aplusenglishonline7011 Also there's a difference between praising violence and horror, and showing it. You know?

[@popermen694]

@@nathanielovaughn2145 Your wager wrong. It is a pretty insightful film on religion and faith with the main characters showing a lot of resolve in the end. With a pretty pro religious sentiment in my opinion. I would say 75% of the movie is literally just them discussing religion. It could easily be a play.

[@shangrilaladeda]

A defeated foe of God is always defeated and evil was overcome even before it was created

[@iknowwhatyoudidlastsummer4k]

Trust me, if Hollywood actually made a movie about the real hell people would be running to church. I got friends that love horror movies but won't watch testimony of hell on KZbin

[@fredmatthews1970]

What you believe is hell is a post Biblical invention. What we imagine as hell is derived from Greco Roman mythology and some medieval writers such as Dante.

[@PrayingForTruth]

@@fredmatthews1970 What about Jesus' description of Hell: a place of separation, outer darkness, unquenchable fire, etc.?

[@christopherestrada2474]

@@PrayingForTruthgood point

[@gcaplan1]

Guy doesn’t like horror films uses religion to justify . I saw the film it has a wonderful message about faith . I’ll come on camera and debate you for a show and would love to Siskel and every this film with you . I am a Christian and if strong faith who loves horror films and does see demonic messaging in all entertainment friend and genres . Pause the Chosen , skip a hallmark night , watch heretic and enter ring of ideas .

[@drlongus8321]

That's because you are not a Christian

[@Tyler_W]

Based. ☝🏻

[@CarlosJGonzalez-cq4ie]

You didn't review the movie. You reviewed the trailer. You're still falsifying the movie on KZbin.

[@michaelalmodovar4332]

If you can’t deal with watching a movie, then you won’t be able to deal with real life evil

[@ereynacarde-borre6803]

You know what my husband says the same, but. I think the thing is we shouldn't be entering these types of films but that being said I am interested in watching it because it poses a real world question ❓ what would you do in that type of situation? People face this type of stuff daily and some aren't even believers. Edit; After learning what the whole movie was really about I have changed my mind, I will not be seeing it. Pastor Mark was right it is demonic, any movie/film that denies Christ Jesus is real and causes doubt and confusion is not of God and is antichrist spirit propaganda and lies.

[@johnpring9176]

“The Movie Heretic” ~ Featuring Control So, I just saw the movie Heretic And it reminded me of a specific dream I had. And honestly, part of me wonders if this was a prophetic dream. You’ll see what I mean. ❇️ From Day 42: Wind ~❇️(The Dream) 4:31 AM I was with a couple people and we were in this man’s house, and this man was very Strange: he was like a Giant Darkman, who was also Very Devoted to some kind of Religion and in his house, he Controlled Everything and Moved the very Walls that were Shaped like decorated Squares Within Squares of the House and he Kept us Trapped in a Maze, with almost no way out, where he stated that whenever, if ever we entered into a room, he would then Close The Room and we would have No Way of Escape, I don’t even remember how we even got into this man’s house, but once we were, he was, saying, Now you’ll never escape! I think there was three of us, and one of us Definitely Got Trapped In One of the Rooms of His House. This man, He was dressed like an African prince or Genie 🧞 and he spoke 🗣️ with a Smooth Voice that was Also Very Deep, kind of like Candyman. It was Weird and Creepy. And I don’t remember all the details of the dream, though, maybe I do: But one thing I Definitely Remember was when I reached this one part of the house where I was Crawling through this Tunnel that was Filled With Mirrors 🪞 on All Sides and I got Stuck because there was still a bit of Fat around my waist. It was at this moment that I Asked the Lord to Help me and Help me He Did. Praise God! I Prayed to the Lord to Help me, and He Delivered me. I was turned into a Snake, 🐍 and then Suddenly there was a Worm,🪱 and the Snake ate the Worm. At this point in the dream I thought I was the worm, but I wasn’t, I might have to think about this part later, but I had found a way out and to get outside the house that the Strange Man who was able to Shuffle Around The Walls Inside At Will held us in. The dream ended with me consoling a friend who was also Trapped In The House that I was eventually able to Get Out with me and the Police 👮‍♂️ arrested the Man. Let’s call him, Zoodu’. Zoodu’ because his ways were Strange Like Voodoo, and also I turned into a Snake 🐍 which is an Animal, and this place was a Zoo in the sense where he Tried to keep us In-Caged. And he was Definitely an African Prince, which means the Name is Appropriate and suits him. The man was In Opposition of us, much like Goliath was Against David, and this man was a Giant, as well as a Crafty Magician, 🧙‍♂️ being able to Move the Walls. But you know what? My God Can Move Mountains! ⛰️ This Dream man: It almost Felt Claustrophobic. I say Almost because I was also Aware that this was a Dream and Not Reality. And no matter what happened in the Dream, as long as the Lord was with me, I Did Not Need To Worry about the Challenges that I faced, or which way the Wind blew or how Hard it blew: because The Lord Would Protect Me: and He would Lead us to Safety: Amen.🙏 Trusting in the Lord is like a Steady Breeze, a Comfortable, Unhowling Wind🌬️ where we Don’t Worry about moving one way or another, Knowing that He Is Watching Over us: Amen.🙏 ~ About Heretic: Now in the movie, a couple missionary girls from the Mormon faith are Trapped by this Diabolical man 😈 unable to escape his house, where the main antagonist, played by Hugh Grant brings up a lot of good points about many Religions, where he rationalizes that The Only True Religion is Control! And to be honest, I did appreciate the Rebuttal, and I was actually enjoying the movie right until the end, where the woman who makes about alive ends up telling the audience that prayer doesn’t work. Which is Not True. I am proof that prayer 🙏 does work. And the reincarnation that at the end, symbolize by a butterfly at the tip of the girls finger was just icing on the cake. 🍰 I digress. And the reason why I said that the dream I had was probably prophetic is because I had that dream 04-14-24 and it turns out that the very first trailer for this movie came out in June 06-25-24. So, … In both movies that I’ve seen yesterday and today: Both Conclave and Heretic, I had a Problem with By the film’s End.🎞️ Nevertheless, both were an interesting watch. 🎦 I didn’t feel uncomfortable watching this film because I know that Jesus is not a Religion. And if I could point, something out, it would’ve been really interesting to see Hugh Grant’s character, the villainous Reed try to come up with an argument against the Holy Spirit. ✝️ And the fact that the Holy Spirit ✝️ isn’t even brought up, shows the Limitation of the Mormon Religion. In the movie, the Holy Spirit ✝️ is not even mentioned. So that was a bummer, however, honestly, what can you say against the Holy Spirit?✝️ ~ Joshua ~ 11-12-24

[@elle7856]

We are supposed to protect our eyes, what we bring into our minds though too.

[@johnpring9176]

@ interesting: is it not written that in the last days evil will become more rampant, therefore it is written that we must always be on our guard at all times, I refer you to 1 Peter 5:8. This means that we are to transform by the renewing over mind day by day: Romans 12:2. And as a beacon of light, we are to expose the darkness that we see. This is spiritual warfare.

[@drlongus8321]

A Christian would not be able to sit through this movie unless they are very backslidden

[@masieyh3804]

tell me you haven’t watched the movie without telling it😂 movie was fire and had a strong message

[@bphifer]

It’s a really good movie

[@drlongus8321]

Have you been Born Again?

[@bphifer]

@ yeah. If you don’t like horror then don’t watch it but this is a movie with heavy dialogue and discussion on theological views and may encourage someone to think more critically about why they believe what they believe

[@drlongus8321]

@@bphifer You don't know Jesus

[@MatthewVideoProduction]

@@bphiferI believe a good experience with God covers that. Honestly, before TV Christian’s didn’t have such movies to be used as “teaching”. Movies with dark themes might bring more bad than good to a Christian’s house. Because we bring darkness whereas light should be placed. We don’t need movies to understand. Pastors should be teaching, our experiences with God should be teaching, our prayed through the HS should be teaching, books, etc. Movies are just a doorway

[@jessetocker3412]

A24 puts out some wild stuff. Movie looks intense.

[@braydenweese1407]

It wasn’t that great.

[@braydenweese1407]

The sister missionaries come out as the heroes. One of them does at least. Hugh Grant plays an insufferable atheist who argues that every religion is about controlling others.

[@masieyh3804]

the movie was fire and it had everyone questioning shit when we were exiting the movies because it made to much since

[@braydenweese1407]

@@masieyh3804 Well, the responses from the missionaries were really surprising. And it was that much that I enjoyed about the movie. But Hugh’s character was complete scum and it was as if the directors did absolutely no research on the actual religion. A lot of the script was just pretty weak. But the symbolism behind the entire film was meaningful and made up for it.

[@enzop2835]

A24 is a bizarre studio. They be putting out too many evil, "supernatural" films. It doesn't take a genius to realize there's an agenda behind it.

[@rebekahlaflin3565]

Yeah I wish Pastor Mark was commenting on this movie from having seen it. Usually critics pass judgment after having watched the film. I can respect not watching horror films but because that is a personal limit doesn’t mean it is a limitation for everyone. I don’t know that I plan to rush out and see this one, looks light on theology and heavy on jump scares but to completely reject any genre I think is a mistake. I think it’s akin to saying the emotion anger is always bad. Most stories worth listening too, have elements of risk and fear.

[@Tyler_W]

Your assessment of the story itself is somewhat inaccurate, but your conclusion is easily the most well reasoned and mature take I've seen so far in the entire comment section. The actual message of the story is actually a rather good and positive one, amd if anything, it should inspire an appreciation of the importance of critical thinking, self reflection, and sound apologetics.

[@americanzero]

@@rebekahlaflin3565 Right. Impact Video Ministries made a video about whether Christians should watch horror movies about a month ago

[@RainbowFactory1]

You're a silly man, Mark. That movie falls apart in the second half, but the ENTIRE POINT of the movie is that bullying atheists are the bad guys and people with faith are not.

[@musiq3109]

You really think that is the point???

[@RainbowFactory1]

@@musiq3109 Did you see it? That's pretty obviously the point. He thinks he's figured out that religion is simply all about control and that has made him into a monster.

[@mulanomula]

@@RainbowFactory1 The point of the movie was to believe what you believe in and not let others sway that belief. Sister Paxton went through all that and still believed in God and Hugh Grant's character absolutely hated that which is why in his last breath he tried to end Sister Paxton. She knew prayer's don't theoretically work but it's a beautiful thing to give that love to people in the form of a prayer which is why she chooses to believe in her religion.

[@RainbowFactory1]

@@mulanomula Yes, that's also the point. But since it's a *horror* movie, the point of the villain being the way he is is what I said above. In any case, we seem to agree, Mark is wrong and hasn't even seen the movie.

[@rodneybell3201]

Exactly!! We are living in a time where Satan doesn't even hide anymore and the world still can t see him. 1 Peter 5:8 STARRIER Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. Ephesians 6:10-11 With discernment comes division. A person who seeks to be discerning must be willing to suffer the effects of this division. It will divide not only believer from unbeliever, but it may even divide a discerning believer from one who is undiscerning. It will separate the mature from the immature, the naïve from the prudent.

[@lulufleming615]

Anything rated R should be examined and everything horror should be an automatic and definite NO.

[@mariaquiet6211]

No one's making you watch it, are they?

[@americanzero]

Check out Impact Video Ministries' video about whether Christians should watch horror movies

[@SteveMarshall-l9j]

I'm retired at 47. went from Grass to Grace. This video here reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, honest wife, $75K biweekly and a good daughter full of love God bless America🇺🇲❤️

[@JanetHill-j6o]

Hello, how do you achieve such biweekly returns? As a single parent i haven't been able to get my own house due to financial struggles, but my faith in God remains strong.

[@BellaMoni-f7p]

I'm inspired. Please spill some sugar about the biweekly stuff you mentioned

[@SteveMarshall-l9j]

Thanks to God, my daughter who introduced me into the digital market. Moreso, thanks to Ms *Kathleen Mary Vella*

[@SteveMarshall-l9j]

It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

[@JasonMauck-d9g]

This is a definition of God's unending provisions for his people. God remains faithful to his words. 🙏 I receive this for my household

[@thebeesknees2621]

In another commercial, they show an upside down cross. Sad and shameful

[@THE_KlNG]

4:25 Pastor Driscoll this attitude of disrespect towards the LDS church is going to be the evangelical and protestant downfall. The movie uses LDS to represent all religions. This movie wasn't a dunk just on LDS but also on your congregation. Now is the time for religions to unite

[@ayushlawrence281]

The movie doesn't even look demonic. It's mild horror at most. If you as a believer are afraid of watching movies with little scary stuff or ghosts, how are you gonna fight demons in real life?? How are you gonna cast REAL demons out of people, like Jesus did, if you can't handle a 2d screen showing some stuff which is made up. Life is already horrifying, nothing wrong with little more horror. If you tremble at this, I'm sorry bro that's too cowardly and gay. The best pro of watching horror is that you get to learn how to be BRAVE. So gather your strength and go watch the movie, like a man. (I'm a believer too :))

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

I'm glad I stopped watching movies.

[@karlwilson7453]

I had been thinking similar thoughts about this movie. Thanks for articulating it .

[@v4756nb1rs]

This is true for horror movies, as well as for everything that is so oversexed and hypersexualized. I mean, dang -- Hollywood is so messed up!

[@Westy-11]

I mean i understand but it is just a movie, like harry potter. Gives good warning to our young women be careful who's house you enter. At the end of the day i think it is just a movie to give bored people a cheap dopamine fix. God bless

[@simonkaplan9748]

I disagreed with everything you said. It is art's job to provoke thought and feeling and discussion. It's sad that your faith is so weak that it can take a little criticism.

[@Nodoyleyamshack1985]

Never been into these terrible movies, unfortunately we are surrounded by them today.

[@StevenJShow]

Pastor Mark, there is a movie that I have enjoyed since I was a teenager called "The Devil's Advocate" with Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino. It primarily deals in the moral greyness that comes with being a defense attorney, but it rapidly takes a dark turn. However, I do think the movie serves a useful purpose in the way that it depicts the corruptibility of man, and the poisoning nature of evil. I was wondering if you would ever consider talking about this film, giving it a critique, obviously it's not a movie for children I probably saw it way too young.

[@johnpring9176]

That was a really good movie: it scared me the first time I watched it, but the second time I viewed it through a different lens, and I have learned a lot since then, similarly with heretic, I believe it is a film that one can merely study. It is written in Hosea 4:6 my people die for their lack of knowledge. Therefore, if you were not easily swayed in your faith, I think it should be fine.

[@loganross1861]

I still think about how they used his ego and how his career hurt his wife and drove her crazy. It’s a good lesson kinda but maybe I’m crazy

[@bens.6458]

That movie is just the story of ‘what good are all the riches of the world if you sell your soul to get them’ Both movies are very thought provoking.

[@christinemadrazo6755]

I’m going to share this with my kids.

[@stephenlambros3286]

Did you watch the actual film or did you just watch the trailer?

[@Tyler_W]

He says he won't watch the movie, amd it's pretty clear he didn't because he doesn't even characterize it accurately. Even if he was right about his overarching point about the genre of horror (he isn't, but I fully respect that this is a matter of personal conscience), his willful ignorance undermines his argument.

[@musiq3109]

@@Tyler_Wagreed, its lazy and pathetic that he wont even watch the movie to make a point.

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

Most often, they're one and the same, trailers just prevent one from wasting an hour and a half better spent engaged in more productive endeavors.

[@ereynacarde-borre6803]

After hearing from someone who has seen the movie, I can most definitely say I will not be watching this film. I am sorry Pastor for what I said in a previous comment, you were absolutely right, Christians should not be watching this type of movie. Any film/movie that denies that Christ Jesus really exists and tries to plant seeds of doubt and confusion is from the pit of hell and is definitely demonic.

[@jennyvandenberg5932]

I’m probably going to get all kinds of grief over this but it is what it is. I was born and raised in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, my husband is a convert. It’s true we believe a little differently on some aspects of the gospel. We do believe in Jesus and God the Father and in the Holy Spirit. We teach our children to love the Lord Jesus Christ and pray unto Heavenly Father (God) in Jesus name. We learn and teach gospel principles. We try our best to obey the commandments. We do read and follow the Bible not just The Book of Mormon. We believe in family unity. How is this demonic? I guarantee this movie didn’t portray missionaries completely correct. They probably inserted some of the ways like having a companion for safety and support and trying to share the gospel. But a lot was probably misconstrued. I haven’t and won’t watch the movie. Most people automatically think we’re evil so they don’t try to understand or really research the right information, they think they’ll be bewitched somehow if they read the Book of Mormon. We believe no one on this earth is or has been perfect except Jesus. Even our prophets past and present are just men. I guess some might call me more of a rebel member as I believe some beliefs have been misconstrued and changed by man even in our own church. I and my family focus on the gospel principles, loving Christ, and trying our best to be good Christian people who love and serve with the Light of Christ as our center.

[@drlongus8321]

John 3:3 Jesus said you MUST be Born Again

[@lunarcat632]

lol I saw the movie, they don’t really portray lds members negatively in it, most of the argument that the bad guy argues is figuring out which is the religion is the one true religion out of all them.. but ends up saying that they’re all similar & methods of achieving the same things, becoming closer w/ god/one above all.. but the guy is like way too unhinged and it diverts to something way different

[@jennyvandenberg5932]

@drlongus8321 Yes, and to be born again, we must admit our sins, ask forgiveness, repent, turn away from sin, and ask Jesus to be a part of our lives following him and his teachings. I have done that. Anyone of any Christian faith can be born again.

[@drlongus8321]

@@jennyvandenberg5932 And not just be a part of our lives but Lord of our lives with a regenerated spirit that transforms us into a new person with The Holy Spirit living on the inside of us.

[@rainydaymatt]

I’m not a fan of undercutting the idea of spiritual warfare, but the most horrifying thing about this movie had more to do with the arguments, which were held up as if they were coherent; it’s something we should be aware of. It shouldn’t excuse everything, but we should take the opportunity presented to create and respond to opportunities to bring up the gospel; not only that, but also to be aware of the current state of theological debate. We can use those opportunities to be prepared to demolish faulty arguments.

[@FrankieGarcia-np4up]

I’m a believer, this is my favorite movie though I would not recommend it to anyone. The church is full of liars, hypocrites, Pharisees. Most churches have become commercial and social clubs. None the less God is real, and His Word is true

[@monicasmall8631]

You think thats demonic???for real???Im a christian too and this falls under thriller

[@drlongus8321]

You would have to be a Christian to understand

[@MarkShirey-w5i]

Thank you, Truth is this is nothing new they are just getting bolder with the tactics they use. Putting it right in front of your face in the name of entertainment.

[@elizabethsteward2364]

Shame on Hugh Grant for being desperate enough to play this role in this demonic movie..😢😮

[@Saints2024]

It's not a demonic movie🤣 Stop looking at things through a myopic lens. This guy has no idea what he's talking about. In other words talking out of his ass.

[@drlongus8321]

Why are you surprised? Just asking

[@1ChristFollowingNerd]

Dark evangelism encourages nihilism, hedonism even comprising with sin. Dark evangelism is the perfect term.

[@johnpring9176]

That’s not entirely what this movie is, rather what he makes as his main point is that the true religion is control. It’s actually an interesting movie.

[@mikestanislaus1107]

Has anyone noticed that trailers and premieres of movies in the horror genre are increasingly being released on or around Christmas time? ( The Exorcist, for example, came out in theaters on December 26, 1973). If this is not a sign of a deliberate mocking, demeaning and (ultimately) supplanting of Christianity, i don't know what is..... May our Lord Jesus Christ continue to bless you Pastor Mark!

[@Saints2024]

Are you reviewing a movie by viewing the trailer? Shows you have no idea what you're talking about lol. If you watch the movie you will know there's nothing demonic about it.

[@drlongus8321]

Somebody's triggered 😂😂😂

[@Saints2024]

@@drlongus8321 No, I'm laughing at how myopic he is, honey buns.

[@drlongus8321]

@@Saints2024 And here come the demons.......

[@Saints2024]

@@drlongus8321 There's no such thing of demons, my little honey bun. 😉

[@drlongus8321]

@Saints2024 Aaaaannnnnd there you have it! The demons have spoken

[@petertaylorpedro]

I am a Mormon, and take no offense to being labeled as demonic. I love ALL my fellow Christian brothers and sisters, and rely wholly upon the saving grace of Jesus. As for me, I agree with Pastor Mark. There's no desire on my part to watch this movie. I look forward to your content Pastor, God bless!

[@jesussaves33]

Cmon man Joseph Smith was a whack job. So many things are wrong with Mormonism I don’t even know where to start.

[@elle7856]

I always thought mormons believed very different things than christians, like about who Jesus is? Respectfully, I hope it is okay to ask. I didn't know they were christian.

[@petertaylorpedro]

​@elle7856 Oh, for sure, it's okay to ask. Certainly, Mormons have differing beliefs on the nature and character of Christ. If all Christians believed the same things, perhaps there wouldn't be thousands of different demonstrations, all having slightly different interpretations or views on what Bible passages may mean? If you indeed have a sincere curiosity on the matter, might I suggest reading the Book of Mormon for yourself, and not rely on what others (even me) say about it. You might be surprised what you find! I'll leave you with one of my favorite Christ-centered passages from the Book, written by an ancient American prophet named Moroni... Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ...

[@Aunruh557]

@@elle7856Mormons do believe very different things about Jesus, like that he is a created, distinct being from Heavenly Father and spirit brothers with Lucifer. Mormons call themselves Christians, and if you talk to them they actually believe they are the one true church with the “full gospel” and that all other “Christian’s” only have partial revelation. They think without the Book of Mormon and baptisms by proxy of the dead that you don’t have the full Gospel. Sadly, most of them are some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet but living in bondage to a gospel of works from a false Jesus that cannot save us from our sins.

[@drlongus8321]

​@@Aunruh557Right on...they are not Christians

[@joshhickeysmoviereviews]

"Joseph Smith's vision was Satan appearing to him disguised as the Father and Son." Explain why Joseph was overcome by a dark evil power before seeing Them then?

[@seanbrien7293]

What on Earth are you on about? You watched a trailer and said that it's a "demonic story" under the pretence that this is supposed to be a "review". Ignorance defined.

[@MSRUBY-fg7ss]

Not a review of the movie. Just a limited perspective and take on horror movies in general.

[@americanzero]

@@MSRUBY-fg7ss Impact Video Ministries made a much better video about whether Christians should watch horror movies

[@imedicimedic]

What's this movie name appeared in this KZbin video above?

[@yeabuddy6070]

Its rather weird. Women are obsessed with serial killers and horror movies now. I just dont get it.

[@__WJK__]

While I can't speak to the alleged obsession with horror movies, is it possible the obsession with serial killers, might be a result of women wanting to learn all they can, so they can avoid falling prey to them, given serial killers tend to target woman(?)

[@drlongus8321]

​@@__WJK__lol...nope

[@mulanomula]

@@__WJK__ It's not that deep. Serial Killers target women due to the fact that they are women and can be attributed to their attraction towards them and a combination of childhood trauma and biology. It's not because women like to enjoy a piece of entertainment, that's just blatant stupidity on your end if you actually think of it like that.

[@dangrissom7791]

rightly said Pastor Mark

[@Saints2024]

He has no idea what he's talking about 🤣

[@dangrissom7791]

@@Saints2024 you're eyes are blinded. hope they open up.

[@mulanomula]

@@dangrissom7791 Your eyes are blinded because you choose to stay ignorant about a movie that literally paints Christians as extremely strong and devoted individuals.

[@Amy-Mo316]

I have recently decided not to support films by woke/evil Hollywood. I am only going to support Christian films.

[@Isaiah-53-777]

I don't watch these kinds of movies

[@vfxtutswithdan1893]

Wow! According to this guy, both sides in this story (the missionaries trying to share their faith and the psycho trying to terrorize them and reject religion) are equally evil. It seems he'll call almost anything demonic.

[@JaffarEvertz]

Very, Demonic don’t recommend anyone to watch this I repeat ‼️🚨⚠️“DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE”⚠️🚨‼️ 🙏 I was seriously attacked spiritually by the enemy halfway thru this movie and then strongly rebuked by the Holy Spirit while & after watching this, Crazy part is I prayed before watching this for the Lord to protect my mind, heart, eyes & ears & I was still attacked so hard it felt like I was about to die literally!

[@JaffarEvertz]

@@Juicey451 Jesus felt attacked when he took up that cross, and was spat on & persecuted Yeah, he was confident in what he was doing and what he was doing it for please don’t be quick to judge. God bless you.

[@drlongus8321]

It's really amazing how people who proclaim Christianity say it's ok to indulge on movies like this. It's just proof they don't know Jesus and are not Christians at all.

[@aplusenglishonline7011]

You're very easy to condemn christians who don't agree with you.

[@drlongus8321]

@aplusenglishonline7011 They aren't Christians or they think they are but have never been Born Again...I'm trying to save them from Hell

[@Saints2024]

Honey Buns, you're on grinder. ;)

[@drlongus8321]

@Saints2024 I don't know what that is but judging your character I don't think I want to know thank you

[@Saints2024]

@@drlongus8321 we literally met on grinder, my bald sweet honey bun. ;) You worn a paper bag the whole time because of your ill-favored face. ;) don't lie to the world.

[@redtail32]

What if. And this is a big IF. Take it for what it is. Just a movie. Not a deep/demonic message.

[@ShenValleyPicker]

Lifelong watcher of horror movies. Don’t really agree with the message here. What about war movies? Is the message the same with that too? Some people will tell you that war is hell. War is demonic. Movies, tv shows, music, videogames etc have never impacted my relationship with God. Love you pastor! Just don’t agree with you on this. 🙏🏼

[@tylerjl22]

You should do a commentary on “Wicked”. Sadly a lot of Christians are seeing it and excited about it. Total disregard for God hating witchcraft

[@ricogomez4020]

I agree for people who are Christian to stay away from this movie. But if you know the Word of God it should be ok to see it for entertainment.

[@__WJK__]

I would argue "some" movies in the genre, actually help educate people on how to avoid evil. ie/eg, how many young adults will see this movie, and learn/think twice about letting a stranger trick them into entering a bad situation(!?) The movie's story line, is actually a loose take on the children's story "Hansel & Gretel" which actually helps children understand that the world is full of vial evil people, who will do them great harm if given the chance. Another movie I would argue, that helps more than it hurts, is the "Exorcist. Disturbing as the Exorcist truly is, there is an educational element that teaches people about demonic possession, in a way most (if any) churches would touch with a 50ft pole, even though the Bible clearly mentions Jesus (and the apostles) casted out demons.

[@drlongus8321]

I don't think you have to entertain demons in your life by way of movies to learn that lesson

[@__WJK__]

@@drlongus8321- Interesting, so where exactly do vulnerable people go to learn about all the “actual”vial evil that goes around corrupting/devouring souls in the world(?)

[@drlongus8321]

@__WJK__ The Bible, prayer and solid teaching in a good church

[@gregory_bloomfield]

I saw this movie, and loved it. This review is coming from a pastor who is abusive and controlling. How this man still pastors and has a platform is a travesty. Christians need to stay far away from this abusive and demonic pastor.

[@meggrotte4760]

I won't be watching that that's for sure❤

[@kittycatig155]

its a shame, the movie actually shows Christians in a good way there, but how would any of the people know if they didnt watch it

[@thynameislegion]

Really good movie. Its just a story but i guess people seem to find it really difficult to tell fiction from reality.

[@thornbird4400]

Is it any wonder how God perfectly timed the release of “The Best Christmas Pageant Ever!” with the current sinister movie releases like “Heretic” and “Venom 3”??? 🤔 A light shining in the darkness! 🕯️

[@Saints2024]

God had nothing to do with it. It was all Lionsgate, Sony, and A24.

[@carlosarambulo7420]

How comfortable are we that we need to seek out trauma for entertainment. We should all be grateful to the Lord. We think these kinds of thing won't happen to us but acts of sadistic evil are very real.

[@mariaquiet6211]

I've suffered ACTUAL trauma and horror movies are therapeutic. Be humble and speak for yourself ONLY

[@NewLife-Ronita]

1 Thessalonians 5:22-24 King James Version (KJV)Abstain from all appearance of evil. And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it Please do not think these movies are just entertainment, they are dark and alluring and we should xhoose rhe light 🕊️ His peace be with you all, I watched horror movies for half my life and I would never do it again!! There is a pull and draw ro darkness that is undeniable BUT God is greater and can help us conquer and set us free.

[@MarkFuriniArt]

I watch horror movies. But I don't like evil for evils sake. When I first watched The Exorcist, it scared me because I was a believer and knew that was a possible real situation in entertainment. But you must discern what is a good vs evil story, and what is not. But yes, fear is not from God. For believers. Except to fear God's divinity.

[@enzop2835]

Did you watch this one?

[@MrSpiritchild]

I'd imagine this movie's primary goal is to paint Christians as weak, pathetic, hypocritical and scared.

[@vfxtutswithdan1893]

Could be. To know for sure, find out more about its creators and their worldview. What message are they sending?

[@celestinalunar6902]

No far from it. I watched it and I’m not a Christian. It’s a movie about testing one’s belief and faith. Even when facts present themselves that maybe what you believe may not be true. The main character is playing God.

[@mulanomula]

It's hilarious because it's actually the opposite. The movie paints Christians as strong and extremely devoted to their beliefs because even in the face of absolute death and uncertainty they still held onto their beliefs and let God handle the rest.

[@TBop1876]

Thumbnail is WILD. Someone who portrays an actual psychopath, kidnapper, and sadist doesn’t get devil horns on his head while the sister missionaries do?! No need to investigate evangelism further, that’s all I need to know.

[@Scarface-hv6zl]

I agree with pastor Mark me personally I don’t like horror movies that do evil stuff like this witch is why I try to stay away from them

[@kenseymour7822]

And then we whine about the way people are acting!

[@visualverbs]

The production company, A24, is as twisted a bunch of individuals as could conceivably be assembled. Very bad juju in their "entertainment" offerings...best to be avoided.

[@Malouco]

I like Huge Grant I just think he sucks at seeing lizards 🦎…. HUGE GRANT THE TYPE OF PERSON TO DO MOVIES WITH TIMMY CHALAMERDA

[@michaelalmodovar4332]

Believe it or not I heard this actually has a twist to it and it makes it a beautiful movie about faith

[@Juicey451]

nope, but still a good movie

[@HeIsRisenLuke24]

I strongly believe in the God of the Bible…and I really liked this movie. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@erikc3057]

Ok, fair point about the movie and I can agree, however since you opened the door on the "genre," what about Christian movies in the horror genre, particularly the movies based on novels written by Frank Peretti? Are we saying that a movie like "The Visitation," which has a biblical message are no good? And are we as Christians going to judge the legitimacy of Frank Peretti being a Christian because he writes horror fiction? Also, I live in DFW and I will submit to you the recent DayStar TV scandal.....which the details of that are infinitely more horrific than the Heretic movie....and that's a real life situation. So, is not seeing this movie taking a Christian stand or us burying our heads in the sand because in today's world, the devil is behind every corner (or so we think)? Legitimate question.

[@Kurtsg10]

Personally Pastor (I attend your church so I will call you that), I think the movie looks at least thought-provoking and that it is trying to challenge people rather than attack Christianity (the directors at least made an effort to portray the Mormon heroines in a positive light), plus it does show Satanic evil (via Hugh Grant's character sneering at how religion is just an effort to control people, like he's doing). In contrats, Wicked (part one) is far more explicitly hostile to Christianity (hell, its author bragged about doing as much with his deliberate efforts to subvert and mock the Wizard of Oz with the Wicked Witch as the hero and the Wizard of Oz as the villain) but it does so coated in saccharine sweetness with catchy musical numbers.

[@catitude4]

Reminds me of H.H. Holmes, a real life killer who had his whole house like a trap and killed people

[@rightaboutnao]

All of A24's films seem to have a bad, bad agenda

[@thomasarnoldcoe6527]

So ….. it’s review of the trailer, not the film

[@laurenefiorino]

This is very disturbing. I would never go see this. There is a movie made a few years ago "Power of the Air"-very good movie, along the lines of what your talking about. What is the biggest church - the movie theater...and that is not good. If you have nor seen the movie Power of the Air, I highly recommend it.

[@gerardo9052]

After grant talked about the first religion that showed their true hand Who owns a24? Whats the purpose of all a24 movies? The whale?

[@enzop2835]

They put out Talk to Me. The Witch. Hereditary. It's to corrupt. It's pretty simple.

[@johnpring9176]

Tell me something? is it better to be knowledgeable of both sides so as to choose the right side?

[@virginiabeaver2823]

It is definitely smart to be knowledgeable about both sides, but I assure you that you are not going to get real knowledge from Hollywood.

[@johnpring9176]

@ this is true. I live by the Bible and so I was viewing it under that lens. When you allow the word to change you from the inside out, you start looking at things differently.

[@J3.16-17]

Biblically speaking, no: Adam/Eve were not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good/evil or else and Paul said he would have us ignorant concerning evil, but now and generally, I think we seem to think so

[@elle7856]

It's really curious because I do think it's dangerous to open ourselves up to too much evil. Don't give the enemy a stronghold type of thing.

[@johnpring9176]

@@J3.16-17 as originally designed and purpose by God, this is correct, however, given the consequences of their sin, and how it affects each and everyone of us, now we have to take into consideration all things, we must be ready for war and beyond our guard at all times

[@nicholaswilliams5090]

Remind me not to watch that

[@kittycatig155]

its a shame, all respect to the Pastor but if he hadnt seen the movie he shouldnt really speak out on it IN MY OPINION. If you would actually watch the movie you would know it shows Christians as strong believers, but how would you know if you refuse to see it

[@nicholaswilliams5090]

@ If you watched the trailer and you still think God approves of that, you need to check your heart

[@Mona-00600]

Don't watch television but all I have to do to see demonic is watch the residents of Sanilac County mi. I live in my auto and every individual in the county is trying to see that I stay in such a position. They deliberately shut my car down and as it is a clutch it just needs a roll. So I went to do so and slipped and stopping myself from falling I twisted my back and fractured my spine🤨They are sending me to a surgeon and I will find out more at this appointment but I'm not having surgery. Happy Thanksgiving.

[@mtamech535]

"LDS is demonic as well" You're turning people away from JC, just like the movie you're preaching against. lol

[@MatthewSchoulund]

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[@KlanSalem]

Oh really? Tell me more!

[@MatthewSchoulund]

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[@MatthewSchoulund]

After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@BlishGriggs]

I know Melissa Jonas Richard, and I have also had success...

[@BlishGriggs]

Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Melissa Jonas Richard.

[@Jasonb-ty9ku]

he's been a liar from the beginning. 😔

[@steveniedowicz8335]

I'm not playing some dumb game going through doors. It's just as dumb as the purge.

[@flavadave3943]

I don’t typically watch this crap either. But I have to say, I like a good psychological thriller. I don’t think there’s anything inherently bad about a those unless that’s what you’re wanting to get out of it.

[@fallencomrade7759]

With all due respect to Mr.Driscoll, I feel as if all he cares about is dividing people and making controversial posts. I doubt he’s never seen the actual film and never will. The movie isn’t so bad. The purpose of this movie is not to evangelize, if so it would have been a failure. The purpose is to make you think. If your faith is strong, you shouldn’t be shaken by a movie or another work of art because they have a different point of view. Hugh Grants character is evil but he makes a few valid points about religion, and places the two characters in circumstances that change the way they think. He does pit them against their beliefs, and in a sense, at the end of the film a “miracle” does happen. I can understand a film critic mentioning this film on thier channel, but it seems as if Pastor Driscoll could do better thinks with his time, like preaching the gospel. Instead, if tearing down a movie he’s never seen, why didn’t he sit down with the people who made it and share the gospel with them?

[@abaker4692]

I don't believe that Mark divides people at all.

[@drlongus8321]

That's because you're not a Born Again believer

[@outlawforchrist302]

Havent seen this movie,and i dont know if pastor mark should or shouldnt condemn this movie. When you talk about which movies you should see as a christian you do start to get into christian legalism and not everybody is going to agree. I can think of a few bible verses like do not love the things of the world, or be the light of the world, or avoid the appearence of evil. Hollywood does put out some very evil and sinful movies showing homosexuality, one night stands, premarital sex, constant cussing, and they glorify violence . Perfect example go to you tube and look up the movie kingsman and the church scene. I saw this before i became a christian and i wont watch it now. As a christian you need to make that decision of what to watch. But i think of it this way , would you want your grandparents watching this movie with you, or what if jesus came to earth to visit christian families. Would you be comfortable with jesus watching this movie with you? 🙏🙏

[@nickveeder5643]

How do you "review" a movie you haven't seen. Quick to speak?

[@chato12377]

Luke chapter 4:1-13 is where you find Jesus battle with the devil he references. Might be more not sure.

[@tinahale9252]

Oh no, I don't watch horror movies. I've never been one to watch them. Detest em.

[@MatthewVideoProduction]

And you are doing the right thing.

[@americanzero]

@@tinahale9252 Not all of them are bad

[@scottganser7787]

Well, that looks horrible.

[@Tyler_W]

I appreciate that this sort of thing is a matter of personal conscience, but with respect, this is not a very well informed or well thought out assessment of either this particular story or this entire genre of fiction and how believers ought to engage with it.

[@pisvtol]

bro what are you talking about.

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

It's not a garbage plot it's just done in the wrong way. If you look at the plot initially it's two people who are devout Christians and they stumble across the house of a religious man who's also a real life jigsaw who rather than tests people for their criminal actions he tests them for their Spiritual ones to see if their Faith is legit and how much pain can break it or if it can be broken at all. That is a good plot but if it is going to please God it has to be done in a very very VERY careful way or it become what the title for this film is. The problems with this movie is 1. The Believers are mormons and the mormons are NOT Christians. 2. It has that feel of Hollywood tainting and that's what I mean in it if a movie with this kind of plot is going to made it must be made careful and Guided by Christ every step of the way because one wrong move can make it an abomination because Hollywood will since it is run by Satan he will try to convince the filmmakers that doing it The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ's Way is no good it has to have movie magic it has to be as Scorsese coined the Avengers movies amusement park film. 3. Is the director is bad and Hugh Grant who is a very good actor is miscast and the film would work just as good with ONE Believer rather than two and the writing is bad like Road House. So good plot bad movie. I'd rate it by the trailer a D and the only reason I give it that is I want to see it to see how bad it is other than that avoid it.