My Eyes Deceive

[@trenysecollie2683]

'papa" being gone for two days after telling the little girl that there are "monsters" who sound like people is so dark. he was probably refferring to police officers or something along those lines. that implies that he was gone because the police were onto him... meaning that the little girl might've been so close to being found. that's probably why he told her to be so quiet too. I know it's just a game, but it has real life implications. seeing something this traumatic through the eyes of an innocent child while being grown and knowing that stuff like this can actually happen is a really awful feeling. real life monsters are scarier than anything imagined. i'm curious about what happens if she stops taking the pills. though a big part of me really doesn't want to know.

[@brieb402]

It's likely an equally horrific ending, considering what he does when she's asleep. She'd be awake that night instead and that means.....well I don't want to think about how the dev would have portrayed anything after that. Maybe she gets saved though b/c not taking the pills would awaken her to the situation possibly. Hence the title "My eyes deceive"

[@arianna1909]

im just confused on one part, wasnt there someone responding ‘no not today’ when she asked if he was home or was that just her saying that

[@grace-hl1rl]

@@brieb402she gets out if she doesn’t take pills

[@mesasimonson6612]

Ohh that makes sense. I wondered why he disappeared for a bit

[@DieFluchendeHexe]

It was her talking to herself, or talking in her own head.@@arianna1909

[@amaanmp4]

its so f'd up when you realise how slow she starts moving through the rooms because how cramped they are for her stomach

[@senialweife]

WAIT- OH. MY. GOD. I NEVER NOTICED THAT

[@Informaldawn5839]

Yeah

[@numi9406]

I didnt notice that till now thats so sad

[@Floptok_StAr]

Probably why one of the endings say "Why is my belly so big and round papa?"

[@liuagnes]

@@Floptok_StArshe got pregnant

[@13Recon19D]

To those still not getting it: The character is a young girl, trapped in a basement. Papa is lying to her about monsters making her not want to leave the basement. He also lies about the monsters using human voices so she wouldn’t call for help or talk if another voice was heard. The pills are a sedative that makes her sleepy. It is implied papa waits for her to be knocked out from the pills and then rapes her. Leaving food on the table for her the next day. In the end she becomes pregnant. 147 days is well into the 2nd trimester when a pregnant belly would be big and round.

[@PlaneMusic46294]

wrong to those who don't get it the pills actually was not sedatives antidotes and the reason her belly was so round and big was not because of the antidote but rather because of the apple

[@artsy_h0e28]

​@PlaneMusic46294 yes this game is actually a happy game where the girl eated too many apples and got sick

[@PlaneMusic46294]

@@artsy_h0e28 yes roblox is for kids after all

[@artsy_h0e28]

@PlaneMusic46294 yes surely roblox wouldn't allow scary, creepy, or generally mature games like this one onto their platform edit: why is literally no one picking up on the sarcasm

[@PlaneMusic46294]

@@artsy_h0e28 exactly thats what i was thinking honestly

[@fish.0]

33:55 "they're best when they're fresh" this made me cry as someone that watches this video for the second time.

[@Fabiolareyes949]

I thought I was the only one that knew what it meant..

[@skibiditoliet23]

wait could you explain?

[@Fabiolareyes949]

@@skibiditoliet23 he means that young children are the best to yk

[@Neolith_]

You cried from a line of dialogue.

[@vukogamer6198]

​@@Neolith_you don't understand what it means, do you?

[@captain.capybara]

*alternate ending* if you choose to not take the pills, you pretend to fall asleep after talking with papa. he enters the room and you hear a belt unbuckling. After a moment, he leaves abruptly. you then get up, and escape the basement after papa forgets to close it. you find receipts for a bunch of strong sedatives(your pills) and a police report saying that papa was questioned but dismissed due to insufficient evidence. you then escape out the back door and see the sun for the first time :(

[@tarmunora3]

It just clicked for me... that's why he was gone for several days. Because the police took him in for questioning.

[@k41511]

It reminds me of the film “room”

[@TomboyGirlfriend]

indie horror games really be like "the plot is you are female"

[@P3nnyLamb]

And the worst part is that you could hear him taking off the belt…

[@hydration_enthusiast]

@@TomboyGirlfriendthat’s the true horror

[@Nono_istired]

The fact that mark said “you have to trust those closest to you” really presents the worst part of this situation. Children don’t know. This is all the victim knows.

[@ryuined]

ikr, the game really did a good job of encapsulating the limited world view of children. like when we play games we don’t necessarily assume that logic would follow the real world, and so it was so easy for me to assume that there was an actual apocalypse going on as a child would.

[@timmy53proXXX]

why teh fuck was i thinking of joe biden while reading this

[@Altair1243WAR]

I mean, it's not like this is a child-specific phenomenon. There are a lot of people who act like they know everything and/or delude themselves into actually believing it. If you read that and thought "this doesn't affect me", you're more susceptible to it as well People are just weird like that

[@saucytacosYT]

I am a child. but yet somehow i still know long story short the player got pregnant and the "papa" was no "papa" and the whole monster thing was a lie. and this isn't based off of one true story, its based on many of the same situation that happened in real life. truly screwed up.

[@NamelessTheHater]

And I don’t trust people. It really is a sad situation.

[@Battleress2]

somehow the fact that mark kept checking the stair area every time between writing in the diary and going to bed, made that ending so so much worse.... checking every night for monsters, only for the monster to strike while you're sleeping.

[@thenitpickchannel9993]

Damn, now I’m even more disturbed.

[@MelXdragons]

Omg

[@lonnybob]

You talk to the monster everyday

[@NiteMarauder]

i noticed that too, idk why but him checking every night stuck out to me and it makes sense now

[@Rainydayz6478]

Damn it now I want to hug her even more 😢

[@Leelis_World]

One small thing that really freaks me out is that the only things in the game that don’t have a meter to complete is talking to papa and sleeping. Papa usually talks first meaning he controls when it happens and due to the drugs the child takes, sleeping is probably the easiest part of her day which makes it even more sad to learn that her father was abusing her while she felt safe and comforted

[@ra_spero]

Not the kidpad game being about trying to get away and not get touched... a well made game.

[@pxjley]

Reading this comment out loud made me realize how similar the words kidpad and kidnap are

[@Randomperson-lq4ee]

That’s a really good detail

[@varvuna348]

@@pxjleyI read it as kidnap and I was so confused 😭

[@TerriazeCAPCUTeditor]

Theres a darker way to portray. The red dots are the "white swimming things" and the pink dot is the egg...

[@Uz1-Doorman]

OH GOD NO@@TerriazeCAPCUTeditor

[@kittycake4139]

Markiplier started talking about the creator of Presentable Liberty and I'm just here to let everyone know that his depression was very much documented in his games and he later took his own life in June of 2018. Glad to see his games are still making an impression and remembered.

[@CageNightwind]

I didn't know..That broke my heart..but thank you for telling us.

[@ShadeMeadows]

I hope he rests in peace...

[@vivianaatxxx512]

It’s “here” not hear, “hear” is only used when you’re talking about listening. here there, hEAR ear.

[@kittycake4139]

@@vivianaatxxx512 sorry I don't catch all of my typos when taking about someone's suicide. I'll try harder I guess There is it better for you now that you won't treat me like a toddler.

[@kittycake4139]

In the future it would be nice for you to tell people things in a kind way instead of insulting their intelligence when providing information when it's common sense something is a typo. I think it'll improve your online experience.

[@PenguinFondue]

Oof. Choosing to keep taking the pills out of hope and trust makes it 100x more heartbreaking

[@radicalvibe2827]

You probably know this, but Incase mark sees this, not taking the pills is a thousand times more heartbreaking

[@_Quaso]

@@radicalvibe2827but she escapes? That isn’t heartbreaking?

[@Pastàár]

@@_QuasoIm not sure what this guy is talking about either lol

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@PhantomBulletGames]

@@Pastàár Did this just get darker...!!!

[@fruitygranulizer540]

btw this is based on a true story. its not entirely the same, but there as a woman who a father locked in a basement. the woman knew about the outside, she was a normal woman, but he raped her, got her pregnant, and forced the woman to raise the children in the basement. the children in the basement never got to see the light of day and had to learn everthing about the world from whatever the man brought into the basement for them. the man was eventually caught and the children were freed. they live normal lives (or at least as normal of a life you can live after experiencing that kind of trauma) today but the childrens' identities are secret for their own good. also the super narrow cork walls are a clear reference to the real basement from this case

[@maddy_eliz1904]

the sad thing is it was his own daughter he kidnapped. he held her captive in his own basement and literally impregnated his own daughter :(. the mom never knew her own daughter was in her basement in a secret room. she just thought she ran away.

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@maddy_eliz1904 exactly. this also might be a little bit insensitive of me, but i've always been suspicious of the mom. i find it really hard to believe that she was completely oblivious to her own husband spending so much time and taking so many random things down into the basement and never having the curiosity to see what he was doing or where he was going. or that she never caught him. i know i have no proof of this, and if the mom really didn't know, i feel incredibly sorry for her, but i do think it is a possibility she knew, but she was able to get away with it because there was no evidence that she knew.

[@theblackwidower]

Yeah, the Fritzls. It's a pretty famous case.

[@honeybloom8533]

The book “Room” was also based on this case!

[@madeleinepembelton1492]

Yes, Bailey Serian? does a really great job covering this story.

[@Grah222]

"They're best when they're fresh" really hit me. Honestly makes me want to cry

[@AlphonsoGames]

i dont understand

[@Grah222]

@@AlphonsoGames It means they're best when they are underage which is so wrong

[@DemiboyBasil-wr1tj]

⁠@@Grah222it doesn’t really, but putting it into context with the rest of the video, makes it worse.

[@thesinkinthebathroom]

​@@AlphonsoGamesbasically in 2 words: child predator

[@STR4WB3RRY_.SLVSH13]

I DIDN'T GOT THAT AT FIRST MY LORD

[@skysiren4113]

I think what gets me the most about the moment with the bad ending is Mark's reaction to it. There's no over the top reaction, he doesn’t start yelling and flipping out, he just stands there in silent shock as he reads the words and realises what happened to the protagonist and what the game was really about. You can tell just by the way he looked how he was feeling, just the clear shock, sadness and horror. It's one of the most raw reactions I've seen anyone have over a games ending and I really appreciate how respectful he was when talking about the ending

[@polkadotmama5]

Fr

[@Urbestcrkplayer336]

Fr

[@XxCircus_freakxX]

I to went 😁😄😀🙂😐🤨😧😶 Like no joke that's what my face did

[@CocoatheSAMSfan]

​@@XxCircus_freakxXsame but add 😥😢😭

[@ItsRxnnie]

@@CocoatheSAMSfanreal ☹️

[@lazyshadow5027]

One of the obvious hints nudging us towards what this game is about is the fact that the food arrives when the father was apparently not there, meaning that the pills are supposed to knock you out, and then he comes down during the night. What made me realize what he was actually doing was the ending, instilling fear to keep you in check.

[@JaidenJaiden-y4o]

Thought the pills would give you creepy dreams but at the end made me shock. I knew it was a girl and a father alone.

[@paragonplays6919]

I was deeply, deeply hoping that this wasn't what was happening and it was some kind of hecked up, extremely morally corrupt biological experiment like you see in sci-fi horror. As twisted as even that idea is, it was definitely wishful thinking on my part, because the reality hurts worse.

[@tracimorgan8720]

I knew when he said "aren't you sleepy?" And I immediately squinted

[@whenZIIZIZIZIZIZIAKMASMCJ]

What does the big O in the diary mean? I couldn’t find popular comments talking about it, or replies that mention it

[@mayadrachmann5138]

@@whenZIIZIZIZIZIZIAKMASMCJ idk i just took it as the girl being very young and writing like a child.

[@Leelis_World]

I’ve just realised that when papa says to never trust other peoples voices and to not let them find you he was actually talking about the police investigating the house…… I’m gonna go cry now

[@Ice_Screamer]

Sometimes I forget this game was based on a real event and it sends shivers down my spine the actual photos of the basement are much worse omd

[@theblackwidower]

I quickly clued into the true nature of this immediately after the first conversation with papa. Either there really is monsters outside, or the father's keeping the kid captive while trying to stop her from escaping. But then, why would he give her an iPad? Doesn't it have an internet connection? I guess not, but why take the risk?

[@bubblejeef24]

@@Ice_Screamerholy shit man

[@rustyhowe3907]

@@theblackwidower I think it's an older style tablet tbh, I think it was Blackberry that had the option to disable all things related to internet back in the day.

[@parkerwiggins6564]

“You can’t beat yourself up over things you didn’t know” - Was not expecting a therapy session from Markiplier today

[@controlledbyadhd1647]

Time stamp?

[@Maddy-bc5op]

​@controlledbyadhd1647 31:55 but he also said it in a slightly different way at the end of his commentary from 27:13 to 29:16 (but I like his thoughts about choice and meaning so I left it longer)

[@SpoonOfDoom]

This indeed hit very hard, as I had to put my cat down a couple of days ago, and today I agonized a lot about whether maybe it was the wrong decision, what if there was a way to prevent this or some other factor that if only I'd known, things would be different, etc. Now I just wanted to watch something as a distraction, and here comes Mark casually dropping oddly specific advice. Incredible timing.

[@Demonslayerbornandraised]

i always expect therapy sesh from mark lmao

[@thecamocampaindude5167]

Thats not therapy its common sense

[@cinnacinnacinna]

18:14 i’m not too sure if anyone pointed it out, but the text switching from “wait for papa” to “wait for father” made me feel more uneasy then the jumpscare did.

[@sungoldened]

it feels twofold - the increased emotional distance as her trust is repeatedly tested … and a *dark* nod to the ending.

[@JordynDonnelly-es1ti]

The fact that it probably means from dad to father of her child is so messed up 😭

[@ItsRxnnie]

@@JordynDonnelly-es1tiNAUR ENOUGH ☹️

[@Mracejoy1121]

Imma put this 5:58

[@werdo..2671]

Wdym it didn't change?

[@Vicky-ni2lm]

The sentence after you water the plants: "Grow big and strong, little one" foreshadows it...

[@defo_not_ri]

yeah as little ones are reffered to children this ending was so horrifying 💔

[@Anxiety_333]

@@No.name_person1she got pregnant because of the father was r-ping her😞

[@No.name_person1]

@@Anxiety_333 yeah I figured it out that is actually messed up though

[@PlantFood_]

OH SHIT

[@SpaceGhoste]

Also when he gives the apple, “they’re best when they’re fresh.)

[@AAuthenticity9880]

Jeez... what a game. Not so fun fact: This game is (supposedly) based on real-life events, which is terribly devastating a child had to go through that. Possible references: - The plants. "Grow big and strong, little one" was said by her because she wouldn't grow 'big and strong' like them. Her life would be ruined eventually and, with such poor self-care and nutrition, she still takes her energy to give food to the plants. (I'm surprised the plants weren't dead after 147 days as they need sunlight) - The apple. Someone else said this in an earlier comment so I want to give it some more spotlight. In greek mythology, offering an apple to someone means you want to be their partner. If accepted, well... yea. Worst of all she was even asked to 'try' the apple. - The big Os in the diary. There's a (big) conversation going on in the most liked comment, so I'll leave that for you. - The chains. So in the last nightmare of the girl, we see chains around the rooms. In the other ending (which I will try not to spoil entirely), we see the girl walking around a labyrinth, breaking chains. Chains are a symbol for freedom, especially when broken. In the other ending, she is breaking the chains, resulting in, yes, freedom. In this ending, however, we see the chains are not broken, meaning she will, and probably never, be free. - Staircases. Same thing, freedom. Like the saying, 'stairway to heaven'. The environment around the girl in her nightmares is red, you could say hellish, as we proceed deeper and deeper into the game. Sign of no freedom. I feel like the multiple stairs appearing in one of the nightmares was a sign to the girl that there could be a way towards freedom, which we see in the other ending. If she chooses wrong (take or don't take the pills), the staircases no longer appear. I'm honestly glad a game like this was made. It showcases a lot of awareness towards topics that are unseen by any, like sexual child abuse. It usually goes unnoticed, and it is the child that suffers, mentally and physically. It's utterly depressing that a child at 7 year old has a baby to take care of. The 'papa' might even leave her, which makes her alone, and that is what she is most scared of. Imagine how hard it would be for a child to take care of a child so young. Children are vulnerable, therefore they are the easiest to be taken advantage of. If you're going through anything similar to this, please, I beg you, find help. Talk to someone. Anyone you trust and know you can trust. You don't deserve to be treated that way. No one does.

[@dearkunii]

I think this game is based of the Elisabeth Fritzl case. Its a real case and its about how Elisabeth was locked in her fathers basement for around 24 years and she was forced to give birth. Hope that helps

[@AAuthenticity9880]

@@dearkunii yea that’s what I found too :D

[@dearkunii]

@@AAuthenticity9880 Oki!! Srry if i sounded kinda rude- that wasn't what i was tryna do lol :3

[@AAuthenticity9880]

@@dearkunii nooo you weren’t rude lol thanks for the info!

[@dearkunii]

@@AAuthenticity9880 Np!!

[@deezdeez9909]

All the stories that 'papa' was telling our protagonist is literal hints. Such as the 'scary monsters he hid and ran from' were possibly the police that inspected the house and asked questions, asking when we would go to sleep or we feel tired is that so he is assured that the 'antidote' which are figured as sedatives are working, the password that papa gave us which was Apple, "its best when their fresh" was an reference to child SA. (I think.) Not only that, but when we are watering our plants. The context "Keep growing, little plant." Or whatever, is an supposed to be referenced to the baby in the protagonists belly that is growing. And finally, "Why is my belly so round and big?" Is an symptom of pregnancy.

[@stevendemayo3631]

Asking questions is a symptom of pregnancy?!? Oh my god... I've been pregnant for decades.

[@dinerodinero4388]

​@@stevendemayo3631what?

[@kristinaogot341]

@@dinerodinero4388 OP should have said the belly being round and big is a symptom of pregnancy, instead of making it seem like asking questions is a symptom of pregnancy.

[@linkin0983]

All that makes total sense now. I was thinking too that the monsters must've been the police.

[@StickLucky]

Bruuh the apple one

[@joshowawood1786]

It makes so much sense that Papa said, “they mimic people and sound just like them.” So if he got caught in the act, he could just run away, lock the cellar, wait till morning, and be like “that wasn’t me? What?!”

[@presentz9396]

I think it was more if someone was looking for her she wouldn't say she was there

[@spyder5655]

@@presentz9396 The so called “father” does mention that if anybody else comes don’t answer.

[@Neutral_Tired]

@@presentz9396 why not both?

[@Thegoatone23]

MIMIC⁉️

[@topbloke1683]

its because hes locked her in the basement and if anyone comes round, police, social services or anyone, she will think its monsters and wont make a sound

[@nobodytheowl]

Not-so-fun fact: The final day is labeled as the 147th. If you do the math on that, it's roughly about 4 and half months you've played through.

[@starlashae3408]

Probably papa trying to hide the gestation 😔

[@MEWtiful]

And 4 1/2 months is usually when a pregnancy is obvious and not just “I put on a little weight”

[@TheBushSpirit]

Unfortunately, the case it’s based off of, she was down there for 24 years

[@emqtychxir]

@@TheBushSpiritit’s not based on the fritzl case. it says it’s not based on any true events.

[@bridievinn]

@@emqtychxir even if the creator of the game has stated that it's clearly heavily inspired by it.

[@K1tty_p4wz68.]

The fact he checked for monsters makes the ending even worse. Not knowing your own father is the monster is just sad.. She's only a kid... I feel so bad if this was real. No one should have to deal with that not even knowing it's your father that's the monster.

[@hfalalalala]

There was a case like this, a father kept I think a 13 year old in a place almost EXACTLY like this (the cork and the rooms I realized were fairly similar to hers) I don't think she was told about the monsters, but I do know for a fact that the father did what he did

[@K1tty_p4wz68.]

@@hfalalalala That's just disgusting. I didn't think people were such monsters. If someone tells me monsters aren't real, they are. And we're the monsters. People torture animals and their own kind.

[@GannaGhanama]

Sadly this game is based off a real case.. Josef fritzl case. The basement in the game even looks almost identical to that of Josef's, with the tight halls, the poorly designed bathroom, the walls and the floors. The girl was called Elizabeth fritzl and she gave birth to 7 children due to her father's constant abuse and r&pe. this went on for 24 years until she was finally rescued in 2008 ... It's really really REALLY disturbing honestly, No one deserves such an experience.. especially not a little kid

[@hfalalalala]

@user-vw7jg7nd6j YES JOSEF FRIZTEL THAT'S THE CASE. Ngl, I was thinking of Elizabeth, but I thought it was another case because she was going to run away and everything, so he tricked her into being there saying that she got into the cult and everything..

[@beepboop2842]

this game was inspired by the real life austrian case of an 18 year old who was trapped and impregnated by her own father in a basement :(

[@Dark_Tale_2077]

My first thought was that that kid had a weak immune system and so had to stay in a sort of quarantine. It was only after Mark starting asking about where and how the food was getting into there that I started to think it might be something else. Then I realized there isn't a wardrobe but the kid has everything else you need to live and suddenly the idea of something darker going on started to creep in. You realize its a girl from the drawings and that comment at the end just brought it all together. Just goes to show you don't need blood or gore to make something truly horrifying.

[@kimberlyyyyy44]

With the pills, title, and nightmares I was thinking Schizophrenia…

[@mdw546]

I didn't realize until the very end and looked in the comments what the ending was about. Now I just want to puke. The worst part is I was eating while watching this, my appetite is gone.

[@DitzyDew]

Wait what do you mean by “no wardrobe?”

[@anon-unofficial]

​@@DitzyDew there are no clothes in sight

[@jwalster9412]

It was the fact that each day was only really a minute long, and the immediate "are you feeling sleep" every time that was making me worry it could be something darker and a deeper meaning.

[@trustia]

“They’re best when they’re fresh.” I swear to god that made my whole body feel goosebumps because I knew the context of the game. Watching many gameplays on this game makes you catch on so many details.

[@obaketeru]

oh god now that u point it out- i didnt realize it during the gameplay. that’s disgusting

[@yumenoslove]

what does it mean??

[@Desty1937]

​@@yumenoslove By "They're best when they're fresh" the father basically is saying "They're best when they're young" which could be related to the situation since the "Father" is a p3do. If you know the story on what the "father" is doing then you'll understand it more so yeah.

[@yumenoslove]

@@Desty1937 WHAT

[@randomstuff6275]

@@Desty1937nahhhhh😭😭☹️☹️

[@rykce2776]

I watched another youtuber play this and he chose not to take the pills. The night you don't you pretend to sleep and papa says "Alright, lets get to-" before rushing upstairs. So this ending had my jaw on the floor already knowing what happened.

[@katchii93]

honestly even the other ending gives me chills. the fact that had the “father” not been interrupted, he would have gone through with it while the child was fully aware of what was happening. my heart bleeds for all SA victims 😔

[@cassie.k007]

I was the same way bc I watched kubzscouts/jay play and he didn’t do the ending mark did. Getting to that final line in mark’s playthrough actually made me sick to my stomach bro

[@rykce2776]

@@cassie.k007 FR I WATCHED HIS TOO

[@soloscape3]

Yeah, I watched Jay's gameplay of the roblox version and he got that ending, while reading his comment section my jaw dropped cause of people saying what the original ending was

[@Thechickenmom]

@@soloscape3what really breaks my heart is that based off of this that poor little girl is still pregnant because of this but was able to get out. Hopefully gets help but I really don’t know

[@Eledyy_]

As someone who has been throught SA by my cousin - who I considred to be my friend - as a child, what Mark says about trust hits hard. "you have to trust those closest to you", that's what children, and more generally humans, do naturaly, and unfortunately I feel this is even truer when you're in an abusive relashionship. This game describes perfectly what limited perspective does to you, and unfortunately a lot kids are being raised like that. The "wash yourself" thing feels like a punch in the gut too. It's such a strange way to talk, wash yourself, it feels like an order, and then you realise it's what the little girl probably tells this herself because she feels dirty. Damn, that fucking game is on point, congrats to the person who made it !

[@mekeda2482]

Your cousin probably is an alabama

[@_huntr.dale_]

As someone who has been SAed, I still feel dirty when I think about it. Specifically my right hand. My stepdad forced me to give him a handjob after finding out I was trans, stating that it was “the only way for him to help”. He was 40 and I was just barely 13. At that point I’ve been through verbal abuse and neglect and I had to act like a therapist for two grown adults (my mother and him) while I was being constantly berated for being an embarrassment and mistake. He was always there nicer one of the two so I trusted him. At some point when they stopped sleeping in the same room (my mother was in the guest room), he would come in my room and ask me to watch a movie with him in bed. I didn’t know that was weird, especially the fact he was really touchy, including the fact he would stick his hand up my shirt. When I was 9-10 years old we lived at a house with a pool that had a light in it. He would let us (me and my younger brother) swim later at night. When we did, he would ask me to swim naked. I once again, didn’t think this was weird. I never did because I didn’t want to. I’m scared of what he would’ve done if I agreed.

[@yeahspoiledmilk]

@@_huntr.dale_ I hope you are out of that horrible situation now and are safer :((

[@_huntr.dale_]

@@yeahspoiledmilk thanks. I still have to live with my mother until I’m 16, and now that they are divorced, I’m the target of her verbal threats and abuse. I’ll be able to get away soon. At least when/if I have or adopt children, I’ll have a lot of lore to tell them. And I know that I can break the cycle of abuse, same with my brother and half sister.

[@Eledyy_]

@@_huntr.dale_ This is absolutely horrible. I'm sending you a lot of love and support, and I really hope that you will be able to escape this fucked up situation asap. Your stepdad is a disguting, perverted human being, and I hope he will pay for what he did to you ! You're admirable, keep hanging on, I'm suer that happier days will come

[@ladydeath3713]

"Why am I so low to the ground?" - Markiplier discovering short people exist

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@mrmr_zoomie]

Such as himself. But also the character you play is a young girl.

[@PineappleSoysauce]

I honestly thought Mark would have been used to the game height considering how close it is to his irl one. [DISCLAIMER: this is a joke. fans used to bash his height all the time. I have to leave this message because people are idiots.]

[@alexhughes6358]

The room was 170cm high

[@ladydeath3713]

Yes, I too watched the video all the way thorugh. Thanks.@@mrmr_zoomie

[@TheHellhound01]

the sheer disgust and visceral terror i felt after the first nightmare. That's eerily similar to what you see after getting spiked. I knew something was up, but that belly was the thing that made it all snap into place. that and the, offhanded "they are best when they are fresh." by the dad

[@irenegreen5162]

Oh no… your comment is a real eye-opener, I didn‘t see the possible implications of that line about apples…

[@TheHellhound01]

@@irenegreen5162 like there's this feeling of something being just utterly wrong throught. Since day one. The game didn't have the feeling of being the super/preternatural kind of horror. My stomach was in a pit ever since the first, "talk to father" and then despite that the kid calling the man "papa" like he wasn't just a parent but a truly overwhelming authority figure who had demanded she call him that. Then the way he told her of monsters of the outside when she asked for a bed time story. Almost as if to hone in the fact that she may never leave to an almost unconscious degree. Added with a warning of "don't respond if you hear another person beyond me" and I knew that it was nothing supernatural. And then the fucking dreams. They are so similar to the kinda shit ya see after taking a melatonin pill. Or get a date drug slipped into your drink. Course it just coulda been a weird dream. So i started paying attention to the subtler details. With each passing day, her vision was becoming more and more distorted that too is something that happens when ya ain't letting a drug flush out of your body properly before taking the next dose. I already knew by that point what he was doing. But the apple line made it all snap into place

[@Brimmsune]

Yikes

[@LadyGendercide]

What does the “best when fresh” mean?

[@sharbigurung776]

​@@LadyGendercideIt's a common excuse used by pedophiles to justify their actions. Essentially what they are trying to imply by that is that girls are only "fertile" when they are young

[@arsenj_i]

Apple = Fertility Kidpad game = Avoiding being touched The O's being written so big = Pregnancy Plant = Growing a baby

[@OmiEditsAlot]

Oh… now that you put it that way… damn.

[@YourFavoritePaganRose]

Wow

[@Little_Terry0]

I was wondering why the o’s where so big

[@FfersBetter]

Grape (from the dream) = ...

[@ggoldensilly]

dam.

[@McFremi_GachaLunaArt]

The only way I could make myself feel better throughout the game is whenever “papa” talks about a so called “monster” I was just like “oh yea, child protective services must be REEEEEAAAAL scary huh?”

[@YouAreMyEggstacy]

💤

[@BlakeleyBilling-oy9pm]

Same I always thought the “monsters” were the police

[@ghastlyy]

The monster being hunched over her at 17:13 is so sad knowing it's probably a warped nightmare of her 'father' when he sexually harassed her in the night and towered over her :(

[@shantibunny7711]

damn i didnt even think of that… thats actually sick and now im scared of what the other drawing wouldve shown😫

[@acidicxdeath]

Fr. All the horror games mark has played over the years and it’s this, outwardly calm and ominous atmospheric type game, whose symbolism makes this one of the most horrific on the channel.

[@nofamilylink541]

i think "abuses" is a more right word

[@shantibunny7711]

so… lil discussion time if anyone is interested… what do we think the pills were? only sleeping pills? do we think he put some abortion pills that jus didnt work? or was he giving her pills that would actually help and keep the baby safe and alive?

[@ghastlyy]

@@shantibunny7711 I think they might have been some kind of birth control to prevent her getting pregnant, but maybe she stopped taking them after a while as she ran out? After all the day does skip from 6 to like 170 so god knows what happened

[@carleeshostak5591]

At 9:53 when Mark said "Everything a growing child needs." really explained everything clearly. It's sad knowing this is not just a game, some poor girl really experienced this exact same scenario. Even other kids experience this and it's heartbreaking to know about the kind of people in this world.

[@faithluvsu]

the game is actually based off a girl this happened to, named elizabeth fritz. she was kidnapped at 18 by her father and kept in a basement, which was layed out exactly like the one in the game. not sure if it’s confirmed but i’m convinced.

[@Hevensdragon]

@@faithluvsu The one glaring difference is age, this girl is very clearly much younger than 18. But yeah could very easily be based on that.

[@2012petvet]

@@faithluvsu Didn't The Creator Say It's Not Based Off The Real Life Case?

[@Wurtoz9643]

@@2012petvetnot based of but has similarities

[@2012petvet]

@@Wurtoz9643 Yes, Something Can Have Similarities To Something Else Without Being Directly Based On It. I Never Said It Wasn't Similar To The Case. I Only Said That The Game's Creator Has Literally Said That It Wasn't Based On The Case And I'd Rather Believe The Actual Creator Than Multiple Comments On KZbin Claiming Otherwise. Because They Can Claim Stuff All They Want, But That Doesn't Make It True.

[@sleeves7364]

im so, SO glad markiplier still remembers presentable liberty, a game like that really does stick with you

[@mikkelborby]

yeah its a hard game to forget. especially with everything that happend to the creator.

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@vargskelethor]

rip

[@avramsanders9198]

There's someone remaking Presentable Liberty for profit and it's so so sad to see. The guy frames it like he's doing it in honor of the original creator but he's just staining the legacy of the game

[@NPC-bs3pm]

A game like this is about *one of the WORST forms of TORTURE imaginable IRL. I don't think this lends itself to something good (as an art medium). Presentable Liberty dealt with romance 🥀related suicide. Charlotte had other people around the cake shop she owned that she could converse with, but life just wasn't meaningful enough with just that. Similarly I have heard the creator of Presentable Liberty feel that his works weren't enough to go out socialize at a small indie gaming convention he was encouraged to go to while on a Undertale stream. Believe me i KNOW this guy had romance issues (I wont go on but he also had chat messages suggesting such past conversations). ANYWAYS I miss Wertpol content. his style was so good for what it was (the mini-games🎮 pass the time well)

[@Mia-y7k1k]

“They’re best when they’re fresh” her dad wasn’t just talking about the apples.

[@Rancidasscheeks6666]

😃🔫

[@borderlinemikan]

Bro wtf-💀💀

[@borderlinemikan]

💀💀💀💀🔫

[@borderlinemikan]

@@Rancidasscheeks6666omg is that an eddsworld pfp-

[@Rancidasscheeks6666]

@@borderlinemikan I change it every week

[@crystalqueer13]

I knew what this game was immediately, as soon as I saw the hatch and the "wait for papa". I'm a woman w/ a degree in criminology, focused in sex crimes and crimes against children. Knowing didn't make it any easier. I still got misty when Mark chose to keep taking the pills and all the dialogue about "I trust my papa". There's nothing scarier than horror based on a harsh truth.

[@pablothegreat0165]

What was the significance of the pills? (I'm seeing people say that they were sad when Mark chose to keep taking them. Were they supposed to be birth control or something? Or were they pills that made the little girl character tired so that "Papa" could have his way with her?)

[@juniorsigala5028]

​@@pablothegreat0165apparently they where sedatives and made her more sleepy, of course the "good" ending where she chooses not to take the sedatives pills is how you find out i suggest looking at footage of the original ending because i feel like i cant explain it thoroughly enough to give it a clear picture

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@bewwybabe8045]

@@juniorsigala5028***sedatives*** and yes that’s exactly how predators can get minors to submit to whatever they want. Same reason why rohypnol is/was so widely used in date assaults

[@splobby]

@@juniorsigala5028seductives lol (its sedatives btw)

[@TheKitGuy]

man just imagine markiplier forgetting to unmute his mic and then its just text to speech for the entire video

[@CaydeSmax]

well he's done the text to speech before but yeh not for a whole vid. cos that's a lot of work even for 3 editors.

[@memerified]

l

[@EinFisch]

He would probably redo the video

[@reidepperson8534]

hed probably just redo it at that point

[@stamatacos]

A detail that some people may have missed is that in greek mythology, giving someone an apple can be interpreted as hitting on them, where if the person who receives it accepts it, they accept the person who gave it to them as their partner. And she was literally told to "try" it

[@Theorginalgaia]

Thats so messed up

[@DragonBee259]

The more I read these comments the more fucked up symbolism I find in this game 😰

[@evilmachinegungaming957]

I don’t think that’s the goal there just showcasing that the protagonist doesn’t recognize such a common household object because the outside world is alien

[@montyspa6950]

gonna go out on a limb here and say thats probably not the point of that scene but good on you for ancient greek knowledge ig

[@HiYayWoo]

NOOO I REMEMBER THAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🥲👍😭

[@vinnedits]

As a person who has NOT been through SA, I hope people who have experienced SA heal and get better. Some people can be monsters.

[@Neolith_]

Just say Sexual Assault. You are being silly.

[@youssefnr1310]

​@@Neolith_but why? It's longer.

[@vinnedits]

@@Neolith_ SA and sexual assault are the same term, how am I being silly? I say SA because it’s shorter. Stop crying about how I type it 🤡

[@cookiechaos9198]

SA literally means sexual assault. ​@@Neolith_

[@idonkat6097]

​@@Neolith_ then using USA is silly?

[@YanntastischGER]

There's nothing better than philosphical talk with Markiplier.

[@RyanSoltani]

100%

[@rennaissance]

one thing that never fails to make me sad is how a lot of survivors or fem viewers immediately guessed correctly about what was happening. the symbolism in the video game, the nightmares, the fact alone that this is a young female character. i hoped i wasn't looking too much into it. but i was right; and a lot of other people were.

[@Rahul_Sastry]

I think by the game I understood how women view the world somewhat. Although the men I am friends with and my family are great people who would never do such a thing in a million years. I guess there is always that one person who is so evil such as this.

[@dark3176]

A lot of guys guessed it too

[@isteppedonlegos7008]

it was at the beginning, my first thought with the pills, i was like, he definitely does things to her if hes making her take the sleepy pills, but then i was like, nah maybe its fucked up to think that. I WAS SO WRONG, JESUS CHRIST

[@arsonic7643]

Don't just include females.

[@deliriousmusicality8840]

It's strange. My best friend watched separately (both fem) and she guessed it where I didn't expect rape to be a part of this. I must be oblivious. Either way I knew the apocalypse was bs

[@shartsaggressively8735]

just mark being philosophical while on his kidpad

[@Y1PEEE3E3E3E3EE]

most normal thing to do

[@Kairos_Fr]

ikr

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@markipliertrash1562]

As he should

[@kexard]

Imagined baby Mark playing on a tablet while spouting philosophy.

[@alwinwinter1645]

Wow, Mark's reaction to this game's end part is so different to how he reacted to Presentable Liberty. There he did not even hesitate on the prospect of escaping/breaking out of the cycle. But this shows how much of an effect trust can have. He truly trusted "Papa", and seeing how the character was just a little girl, that is honestly pretty realistic and makes it more heartbreaking

[@erika2m16]

Oddly enough the first red flag for me wasn't the sleeping pills/sedatives, it was the fact that it says "wash yourself" instead of shower, bathe, etc...

[@genodedemon5109]

Interesting, I found the wording rather odd as well but I didn't see it as anything more than a strange game creator choice. Do you think you could explain to me why you came to this conclusion from the phrasing?

[@Qanww]

​@@genodedemon5109"washing" something, like a cloth, a toy, a dish, or in this case, a kid, usually refers to an object. The phrasing objectifies the kid in my opinion. Idk maybe it's because english is not my main language but I've always seen the word "wash" for objects.

[@leoo1831]

@@Qanwwyou make a good point, in English there are common phrases like “washing up” or “washing your hands” but you don’t often say you will “wash yourself”. I had seen this wording in a way that puts out the idea that you are very dirty and need to be cleaned (because of papas acts) instead of it being a refreshing type of clean. She would probably feel disgusting each day, and most likely sees herself as somewhat of an object, due to being very solitary.

[@denisseolano110]

This might be a bit too logical... But I think the reason the little girl had to wash herself everyday is because she got r-ped and was able to get pregnant :( she may have had blood all over her that she had to clean off herself when it was that time of the month.

[@Qanww]

@@leoo1831 yeah, I also thought of those phrases but "wash yourself" still sounds really odd, like there's some type of filth that needs to be washed away. Another reason it sounds so weird may be because of the "yourself", it just sounds so distant. Like an order. Even if she's saying this to herself, she's not saying "I'll wash myself" or "I'll take a shower/bath", it's just a straight up order and it's even sadder :(

[@Fast_and_Ferbious]

Luckily for the creator, they got Markiplier himself to play their game

[@savagecabbage1184]

And he does it so well too, He doesn't replay it for the other ending, which really makes me want to find out for myself and play the game so that my unanswered questions will be satisfied, so it is great exposure

[@knightoftheblood1841]

Also bonus: Mark tell us about the lore behind this game, so we know much about what happening behind the scene of this game. Condolence to the original developer.

[@memerified]

b

[@thibautisserant]

True ! And I understand the frustration of working months and months on a project only to see a remake getting all the spotlight and credit.

[@majesticeagle5461]

@@savagecabbage1184 sadly

[@NURI.THE.DRAGON]

“Why is my belly so round and big?” Gonna go cry myself to sleep now..

[@sarahvelazquez2382]

What does she mean by that

[@NURI.THE.DRAGON]

@@sarahvelazquez2382 her dad did bad things so she got pregnant :/

[@Mortal_Remi]

@@NURI.THE.DRAGON I DONT THINK MY JAW HAS EVER DROPPED AS MUCH AS IT DID JUST NOW.

[@afadiahmad6973]

Okay But Why is The father likes child.not grown up?

[@NURI.THE.DRAGON]

@afadiahmad6973 I think the kids mom probably died

[@emqtychxir]

at the end when he is so silent as he is realising it and then suddenly starts screaming sent chills down my spine.

[@Pollygoned]

the ending made me, and most likely everyone else, feel sick to the stomach. it’s such a gripping game, and that deep, daunting feeling of fear throughout the game.. the manipulation of the father, the questions that creep up- “how does the food get down?” “Why do the pills knock you out?” “What’s going on outside?” the time skip was so confusing, and it’s impressive how one gut-wrenching sentence can change your whole perspective on a story. Thank you for the gameplay Mark 👍🏽

[@JMEEEEEEEEEEE]

I don’t really get the ending

[@ps4nowwoot972]

I really hope the ending isn't what I think it is

[@AndreiNakhovkye]

She’s pregnant that’s the ending

[@literally_mad]

​@@JMEEEEEEEEEEE He made her pregnant, As a younger girl she was kept into a basement and never seen the light of day, Because the father is lying to her about an infected world to keep her inside the basement. The father is giving her medicine to make her sleep so he can do disturbing physical actions to her. :(

[@mandymay21]

There was a stone in my stomach the entire video. I had a very clear idea of what the twist would be from “day 1”, that I think is due in part to my own experiences with childhood SA. And I honestly think it made the game that much more devastating, especially when Mark chose to keep taking the pills, to trust papa, because it was so relatable to my own experiences. Because truly what else are you supposed to do when you’re a child and the person(s) you have to rely on for survival are the ones hurting you? What other choice is there when you don’t know any better? When you still put your trust in your abuser because even though they hurt you they still take care of you and you still like being around them because you’re a child and you love them and you don’t understand that what they’re doing is wrong? I really appreciated Mark’s discussion about making decisions with the facts you have available, about how you might make the “wrong” choice but that you shouldn’t hold it against yourself because you didn’t know any better at the time. Thinking about it is honestly making me tear up because it’s not something you hear a lot, especially as a CSA survivor. Most people don’t think about what it’s like to navigate a world that likes to argue semantics and ask if it was *really* SA if the victim didn’t get injured, if they didn’t fight back, if they didn’t tell anyone, if their abuser is nice, etc.? How growing up in that kind of society makes you question yourself, makes you think that maybe what happened to you wasn’t real *enough* to count in the eyes of others, makes you feel ashamed for not doing something different, for not being a better, more believable victim. Makes you wonder if they’re right- if maybe you deserved it because if you would have just responded in the *right* way, fought back in the *right* way, then maybe it would’ve stopped. Makes you wonder if maybe it really was your fault. It’s a devastating spiral that I know many victims of CSA and SA have experienced and struggle to overcome, myself included, and Mark talking about forgiving yourself for decisions you made when you didn’t know better was really nice to hear.

[@tobiasburke9495]

Mark is a gem. He plays games that set out these absolute worst-case scenarios and still injects a positive message. He's just a good guy, trying to spread positivity through the medium of these horrifying games. That's the main reason I watch and support him in everything he does.

[@ajschwartz2012]

Realest comment

[@booyah5555]

Regarding the concept of doing the “right” thing in regard so SA and CSA, one thing that I read once that I’ve always kept close to my heart is: “whatever thing you did was the right thing to do, because you survived.” So even if the entire world tells you that you should have had a fight response when what happed was you had a freeze or a fawn response, you did the right thing. You have those instinctive responses for a reason, and that reason is that your body is doing whatever it takes to keep you alive in that moment. And it was effective, because you are alive today.

[@Garnox_]

i couldn't watched the entire video. i only watched the beginning and end. there's not may videos that make me do that

[@kittiecandy747]

as a fellow CSA survivor, this was... cathartic somehow.

[@LittleFoxInTheBox]

Wanna hear another disturbing detail? There are no clothes in the game. No wardrobe. No laundry. You always have to fully wash yourself after eating. The girl is probably made to run around naked by her papa. Don't know if it's intentional or not though..

[@EinFisch]

Yeah, apparently this is a game about a child being abused by her father and then it makes sense that she doesn’t have clothes.

[@meiduza]

... I was looking through the comments trying to find an explanation to the ending because I just didn't get it and this comment made me realize, and the way I fucking gasped

[@MiotaLee]

no clothes no laundry eh

[@sfventure]

Dang..

[@Dragonslayers009]

Yup. And that's why she asked about her stomach, I believe he was making her take pills so that she didn't wake up during the night. It's a great game with a good story but damn.

[@VIVI_4NNE]

🚨⚠️ATTENTION ⚠️🚨 People are saying that this game is “based” off of the Elizabeth fritzl case!! IT IS NOT!!! This game is just heavily inspired by it!! The victim of the fritzl case was a woman about to leave for collage before HER OWN FATHER kept her in a basement in their own home and did all those terrible things and more. You can find the story yourself. This game was not “based” off of that case only heavily inspired with the basement layout and the abuser being her own father. Their are lots of similarities but they are not the same. The victim was a child not a woman about to go to collage. The creator of this game said that this was not “based” on true events. Key word “BASED”. It may not be based on the fritzl case but it was very obviously heavily inspired by it. And also the victim of the fritzl case knew that she was held hostage and taken advantage of. I’m this game she is not aware that the outside world is not scary and that this is very very wrong. Just wanted to clear some things up Thank you for your time

[@baconstopsultimateusers]

K thanks

[@AstrovvCha]

Well then why is the ambience and the room just like the photos of which Liz fritzl was locked in? I mean if you see the pics it's the exact same Honestly it breaks my heart.

[@VIVI_4NNE]

@@AstrovvCha yes you are correct! the room was based off of that just like a lot of things but if you compare the Elizabeth Fritzl case to this they are not the same.

[@Kry-i5c]

Mark’s ending was so awful I had to play the game myself. It’s 2:30 am, I got her out and I can finally sleep at ease.

[@King_Shadow_Reaper]

Is there a happy ending if she doesn't take the pills?

[@Kry-i5c]

@@King_Shadow_Reaper yes, she gets out of the house. It doesn’t say if she’s rescued but I think it’s implied

[@King_Shadow_Reaper]

@user-eu2lg1ws4f thank you. Now I can sleep peacefully tonight. I've been having nightmares and scary thoughts about this kind of thing. I'm not normal squeamish, but this topic in particular really makes me sick in the stomach

[@larsonpiano6420]

Please take care of yourself and get some sleep ❤❤❤

[@Butterfly_Az]

Brave soldier, you've done amazing work, we salute you

[@saalvation]

as a survivor of csa this game brought me to hell and back. i can't tell you the type of gut wrenching horror it was to watch something so close to the real thing for me. four years of the same constant routine. i was eight when it began, not being able to fully process things and growing older to then realize what had happened is, in my personal experience something no one can learn to hold without overbearing guilt. you learn to carry it all within a space inside you and it sits their to soak, every night is the same dream and the same nightmare. im sorry to the creator and im sorry to anyone who may have went through any kind of similar trauma. if you were a child, you didn't know and it isn't your fault for not fighting them off or not being able to say no. you're strong for being able to fight it every day, and you aren't alone in your struggles. thank you mark for the kind words, you've became a very big comfort to me and in my journey of dealing with shit, even when it was happening. you brought a smile to my face every single day, and i cant thank you enough for giving some piece of mind and solace to people who need you. you've always been someone who i look up to and hearing those words will forever fill the hole carved out from the pain of what happened. it isn't much but please never stop making videos and supporting survivors. you've done a lot for people in need and i hope you continue to brighten the days of people in hurt and pained times just like you did for me. ❤

[@willowoodz]

thank you for sharing your story. i can't even imagine being that young and living that cycle. it's a blessing you are still here, strong, and speaking to tell the tale. you are an inspiration. anybody who has ever been through CSA is. you've made your best out of what you've been through, and i respect you SO MUCH. i hope you know how truly FUCKING powerful and awesome you are. you deserve the world. sincerely, a stranger touched by ur comment

[@voidresident_m4r127]

You are so strong and I hope you are healing well from this. It’s awful to hear that stuff like this still happens despite everything…

[@Thechickenmom]

This made me tear up. And those words of it wasn’t our fault and especially because in the moment I myself couldn’t say no. It’s taken me years to even realize all the stuff I went through and I’m so grateful I’m able to be in a safe home now and finally heal but my heart just breaks and it makes me sick knowing so many other people especially children have to go through it and even worse. I pray you’re able to heal and find peace and hope and never stop fighting for it’ll be okay💛 I don’t know you but I hope that I can at least bring you a smile and some hope

[@suffy101]

lol

[@ObsidianMerc]

@@suffy101tfym “lol” what’s wrong with you

[@mochiteabunny]

I love how Mark brought his dog and he really stopped barking lol

[@nikkiofthevalley]

That's actually Amy's dog. Chica is Mark's.

[@dashspeed9523]

finally a not serious comment

[@themosaicshow]

he didn’t wanna lose his leg privileges

[@thetinglessasmrtist]

Did I miss something or has Henry gotten chunky? I remember seeing a picture of him next to Chica and he was so small in comparison!

[@janyajackson7829]

@@thetinglessasmrtistI noticed the same thing! He has quite a bit of chonk to him 🥰🥰

[@knifebillion]

The last line of dialogue made my blood run cold. The fact that there are people out there who do this is beyond horrifying.

[@9NikForde]

The pills, the basement, talking to her father through a trap door… my heart dropped, I knew right away. I figured the pills she took daily were sedatives, but also birth control considering there were two bottles? Either way, my heart sank. The fact that things like this happen..

[@sureko2989]

it wouldn't be birth control considering she did get pregnant in the end but ig its not 100% effective so you could be right.

[@catenjoyer76]

​@@sureko2989 I don't remember the story that well but I recall the girl had many children.

[@kristinaogot341]

@@sureko2989 Maybe morning-after pills.

[@bnies]

​@@kristinaogot341you can't take them every day, they are very harmful

[@kristinaogot341]

@@bnies Thank you for correcting me.

[@WereSquatch]

"Why am I so low to the ground", cuz they wanted it to be more immersive for you Mark

[@thelocalshoop]

@iamafraidofwomen he got vertically challenged fr 💀

[@pinkapple3619]

LMAO

[@boiboi89031]

bro💀💀💀💀

[@stoneplayzminecraft]

bro violated mark

[@burnttoast7176]

Bro- 💀...

[@g00se_ars0nist]

i knew what to expect from the start. Days were far too short, “wash yourself”, “don’t trust the other voices”. She hasn’t grown in those 147 days, i’m assuming it’s because her body prioritized the fetus instead :( My heart was sinking through this whole video, but the ending still got to me

[@carcharoclesmegalodon6904]

How much exactly do you expect people to grow in 147 days?

[@g00se_ars0nist]

@@carcharoclesmegalodon6904 a child would grow quite a lot i’d assume

[@thefinal1754]

​@@g00se_ars0nistI don't know if your purposely acting dumb or something but children(I'd assume the character was 7 - 11) don't grow that much in a year more so In 147 daysa

[@arny625]

@@thefinal1754in 147 days as a child I grew a inch…

[@thefinal1754]

@@arny625 "I" now do you notice? Its your situation. Nobody has the same genes.

[@kaatjuhhh7345]

It's so sad to know that after the 'why is my belly big and round?', she wasn't free. It's the end of the game, but she kept on living in the basement. That wasn't the end for her, only for the player.

[@rustyhowe3907]

I wonder if she didn't last too much longer because of the blurred vision of the character, tbh she's probably not the only one 'Papa' took in there as he was so well organized.

[@SirSilly8521]

In the other ending, the dad got caught, and I don’t think still taking the pills would impact or change that, so the child might have just walked out the door into the outside world, and hopefully get rescued

[@Amalie_t7n]

this game hit me kinda hard as a victim of child abuse. you never realize that it is abuse, until someone pulls you out of it, because you were so used to living like that your whole life. the worst part about abuse is having to look back and realize and acknowledge that it was abuse. it hurts a lot, and this game kinda just reminded me of that whole healing process

[@might_be_charlie]

I'm so sorry to hear that, i can't relate but i'm sure your experience was horrifying and disgusting, i hope you can live safely and happily now😢

[@sabo5908]

Dang bro i hope you're better now wish you only the best🙏

[@وحده_من_أقمار_كوكب-المشترى]

I hope things got better for you now!

[@taiteyard3567]

AGNOLISHE? ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@coolkid006]

​@@taiteyard3567-👶

[@superfluousstuckupitude2512]

Spoiler warning: What really hits me about the bad ending is the "papa" seeing her on the 147th day and immediately slamming the door. 147 days is roughly 5 months and typically a pregnancy would already be showing at this point implying that he saw her belly, freaked out, and slammed the door without so as another word. Hits even harder after watching a video about the good ending.

[@JamisonEdits]

I cant find the “good” ending anywhere

[@animelover-tw2xl]

I hate to ask but what's the "good ending"

[@JamisonEdits]

Just found it…jesus

[@charlie8779]

What happens in the good ending?

[@scorpionlord9175]

@@charlie8779 doesnt take the pills, pretends she is asleep as "papa" comes down to her. someone calls him so he leaves, leaving the hatch wide open. she goes up, leaves the house, sees its bright and sunny out and asks what that big glowing thing is in the sky.

[@KuroHebi]

Everyone is interpreting the plants you water as you progress through the game as a metaphor for the fetus growing inside the protagonist each passing day. The way I see it though, is that plant is supposed to represent the protagonist herself. One day, she'll be big and strong enough to escape her nightmare.

[@Lost_andfound_]

EW EW EW EW EWWW

[@Yayofangamer16]

What? ​@@Lost_andfound_

[@Graybeth_]

@@Lost_andfound_are you ok?

[@Copper_Coins]

Yea, as well as the plants disappearing in the night mare with the chains

[@muntTV]

Not everything has to be a metaphor, that's a bit lame if it is what the creator intended. Also why wouldn't you just resort to shackles if they became strong and wise. You could at least reinforce the hatch and wait until they were too weak to resist if they were becoming unruly.

[@thefinalfrontear]

watching again and knowing what’s actually going on during the nightmare sequences, the looming figure at 17:20 is really upsetting

[@custardcoochi]

oh...

[@chloe-cs6jz]

oh god it’s actually sickening the bit where he says “they’re best when they’re fresh” just completely has a double meaning by the end of the game like just how young she is and always calling her by pet names feels like a way to dehumanise her and if u don’t take the pills there’s a diff dream idk how to explain it but the sound while it happens sounds like a man heavy breathing which is genuinely vile i’m so sorry too anyone who had to experience anything like this i hope you have or are healing 💗

[@opalescentanklebiter]

omfg i didn’t even connect the apple line to that😭😭 ick ick ick i cannot believe this game or even a version of it was on roblox???

[@padparradschas9623]

@@opalescentanklebiter HONESTLY... like its a good game but the fact that the creator thought itd be a good idea to make it so easily accessible to children...??? what was the thought process.

[@warrust]

I also do like how the princess thing came in late

[@hishamrashid5293]

@@padparradschas9623 i think the creator allowed it on roblox because he didnt really think it would become that popular.

[@Oliepolie]

im literally crying butterfly tears over your comment, im so moved 😐

[@stxrryd]

Just a reminder that this game is based on a true story about a girl named Elisabeth Fritzel who was held hostage in a basement and raped by her father, Josef Fritzel, for 24 years. Her father drugged her and forced her to keep and take care of the seven children she had with him in the basement in Austria. This game is almost an exact replica of that actual basement. The woman was only found several years ago and this is a pretty recent case.

[@Jaimeschaos333]

Thank you for bringing attention to this. I have never been more scared to see that Elizabeth’s story wasn’t as heard as I assumed it was. Just recently, my boyfriends’s mom and I were watching a true crime podcast that talked about the case. I’d heard it years ago but even she was shocked to have not known about it.

[@dragonmaster9817]

I suspect that was what it was based on when I saw that the hallways were made of plywood and were only wide enough for a…child, and that’s when it clicked

[@vergil5749]

Let me clarify the misinformation. It was confirmed that the game is not based on that case and it‘s just a coincidence. It actually come from an idea from Reddit if I remember correctly.

[@GhostVsTheUniverse]

@@vergil5749 you’re wrong it was based on the case

[@vergil5749]

@@GhostVsTheUniverse Nope it wasn‘t.

[@RoseGamerC]

The chill and sadness you feel when seeing and reading what the girl says to the plants she's growing in the basement is like how an expecting mother/parents want for their child. Also the chill over the kid sticking to the routine of taking the pills since that's all the kid knows (even though others have chosen not to take the pills)

[@ssparklzzz]

the ending, just the words alone put me in tears to be honest. i knew the story but it didnt hit me until the end just what it was, and it just. fucked with me a bit. as an sa survivor it started worrying me from the beginning, but the trust parts made me really sketched out. especially when mark said "you have to trust those closest to you", and then his face at the end, like i cant even describe the emotions i felt at that moment. children dont know. we never really know. we just know who we "can" trust.

[@CreatureCreatureman]

i was kindof thinking the plants were plastic so the act of watering them is like performing a ritual despite its fruitlessness because it makes you feel like you’re accomplishing something, like showering to get the psychological dirt off of yourself. Cause in reality the water isn’t going to wash away the feeling of being mentally tainted, but it might make you think you’re doing something.

[@CreatureCreatureman]

also i thought the plants were plastic cause there’s no sun in the basement, so how could they still be alive after several months without light

[@yippeeflowers]

the daily bath is to wash the mess her father leaves.

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

thats what i thought tbh

[@nouhideveloper]

Thank you so much for playing and thank you for going over the document explaining the Roblox "situation"! Edit: Thanks everybody for the kind words, I really appreciate it!

[@XCHRONICLEZ]

Congratulations for the immense popularity, attention and success your game has received, you really deserve it and way more, and for getting noticed by Markiplier as well, one of the most popular youtubers in the horror genre. This game is undoubtedly one of the most rare games with a moral story that might teach you some things that you must know and be aware of in life, and for those who do not understand what I said, you may take a look at the video to understand how the story of the game goes, but you must watch till the end of it. I'm also glad that Markiplier understands the reason for the takedown of the Roblox version of the game. Anyways, I look forward to seeing more of your content and what you may create in the future. Good luck with your projects!

[@ThatNickYouKnow4010]

Hell of a game, happy that you get the attention you deserve

[@Jarfibear120]

Very well done game! Hope you get the success you deserve

[@gr1nning]

You honestly deserved mark playing your game!

[@Appealis_03]

This game is very well made, has a very disturbing backstory tho.. I’m impressed you deserve more attention! I’m glad mark played your game.

[@thinecuprunnethoverwithblood]

As someone who barely survived csa and still suffers from the trauma it gave me many years later, I'm so glad Mark didn't take this opportunity to play the game and make it super lighthearted and jovial. It's very easy for people to laugh or make fun of something that doesn't affect them personally, but it's reality for more of us than you'd want to know, and having a game portray even an ounce of how harrowing it truly is feels strangely cathartic. Give your local csa survivor some love today, we all really need it (To clarify, CSA stands for childhood s*xual abuse, youtube typically flags the full phrase so I used an acronym)

[@iam_crumb]

this is exactly what I was thinking

[@GoobyOoby2702]

I too, am a survivor. Hugs to anyone that wants or needs them.

[@InkCoveredMoon]

yeah as a fellow survivor when i first saw someone play this game i instantly knew something was off, there was no apocalypse and these pills aren’t a antidote, so when i realized what had actually happened at the end of the game and then played it myself to see the other ending i understood why i was so untrusting immediately, it reminded me of what i’ve gone through to the point my mind knew something was off and triggered alarms in my head i am very glad mark gives this dark reality the respect it deserves as it’s awful what we and others have had to gone through and how easily people laugh it off

[@GoobyOoby2702]

@iamafraidofwomen because there are a lot of fucked up people in the world, that do terrible things to other people.

[@winnie_the_bleh]

@iamafraidofwomenbecause sometimes people who didn't get treated how they should have find comfort in each other, or one singular thing (mark in this case) and they deserve to be allowed to share and help each other (this was not meant as insulting in any way, just explaining)

[@ash6996]

*some details. (Might delete soon)* *(Apologies if im not really good at explaining. Most of these are also from other comments.)* *(I dont think any of these are confirmed, it is just some details noticed, and none are confirmed.)* *Objective.* In the very first day, we can notice the odd wording like it says "wash yourself" instead of shower. "washing" something usually refers to an object. She probably feels disgusted everyday that she has to wash herself. *Clothes.* The girl was not seen with any clothes when washing herself, nor did the father even give her any clothes, meaning the girl probably had no clothes the whole time, making "it" easier for her father. *Kidpad game.* The kidpad game "Freerunner", it shows a small pink square avoiding red ones. The pink square can be the child avoiding her father, who is the red ones. It can also be the father avoiding the police. *Diary.* The father gives the child a diary in the first day, when we see what the child wrote in the diary, it is noticeable that there are big O's. It foreshadows the really bad ending (ending that Mark got). *Father's story.* In the first day, the father tells the child a story about a monster he saw, he probably means the police chasing him, or possibly he is the monster, and the child is the one he's chasing. *Plants.* It says a sentence after watering the plants, "Grow big and strong, little one.", The "little one" probably refers to the girl. But she didnt grow big and strong, because her life was eventually ruined. *Apple.* The father gives the child an apple, and says "They're best when they're fresh.", which could mean the father likes children better, or it can also mean he likes them if they're cleanz since the child "washes" herself before meeting with her father. According to Greek Mythology, offering an apple to someone means you want to be their partner. *Chains.* In the last nightmare of the child, we see chains in the basement. Chains can be a symbol of freedom when broken. In the other ending where she escaped, we can see the child breaking the chains, meaning she'll be free. However, In this ending, she did not break the chains, meaning she will never be free. *Stairs.* Staircases can also symbolize freedom. In one of the child's nightmares, multiple staircases appear, which could be a sign to the girl that she can still find a way towards freedom, which is shown in the other ending. However, if the child chooses to continue taking the pills, the staircases would disappear, showing that she can no longer achieve any freedom. *Nightmare.* In one of the nightmares, the child sees a monster, being hunced over her, it is probably a warped nightmare of her father. *Final day.* The final day is labeled as the 147th. If you do math on that, it is about 4 and a half months, which is well into the 2nd trimester of pregnancy whete a belly would be round and big. She was also slowly moving through the rooms because of how cramped they are for her stomach. *Note for some people: This game is NOT based on a true story, the developers has said it themselves. Only the basement is based on a certain case. Please stop spreading misinformation to other people without even knowing anything.*

[@therealludwigtheholyblade]

The figure towering over Mark after she asks, “Is this an apple?” is terrifying and sickening to think about.

[@moohooloo]

oh this is an awful connection to make later

[@NJP609]

When was this ? I feel like I missed a lot and still don't quite get th ending...

[@therealludwigtheholyblade]

@@NJP609 It was the second night I believe. All that I will say is that you play as a young pregnant girl.

[@FayeTheNerd]

The "papa" is actually a predator that either A: Keeps the girl in his basement for ever and gets her impregnated. or B: The girl escapes and finds out that the world didn't end and hopefully escapes. It's a very messed up "game" that tells real world issues instead of being like "CHILD ABUSE SCARY!"@@NJP609

[@vivi-ws9yl]

​@lease9762I don't think the incest part is the problem here lmao

[@KittyFoxDraws]

I honestly thought the ending was the "dad" was a monster the whole time and was fattening her up and ate her, then i read the comments and the story is so much worse then i thought it was. i feel stupid, naive, awful, sad, and now my whole day is ruined

[@DeadlyDudeOE]

The game sets itself up to be found out then self obscures and I must've wanted to subconsciously believe this would just be your average horror game as a result Yeah that's what I wanted to believe the first 5 seconds after the twist but fuck the realization hits with a wave of anger.

[@Hollowcrisis]

Same 💀

[@GraceOfDiamonds]

same 😞

[@Ghorakhu]

Same😢

[@infectiousmoth]

same

[@youbutrt1707]

The fact that this plot has really happened countless times fills me with overwhelming sadness any time I think about it. How is it even possible to feel joy knowing this is happening to someone, somewhere? This game really affected me.

[@Creepella19]

That's exactly what I've been thinking, there's no words to describe how horrible it is knowing that this happens every day, and that children are experiencing this. Heartbreaking

[@Zvromi]

Actually this is based off a true story. The Fritzl case, look it up.

[@ucrazysquirrel]

​@@Zvromithat's the exact case I thought about while he was playing. Had my fears confirmed at the end. That was a sickening, horrible case.

[@yuyu-ff1wj]

there have been and still happen many unspeakably awful things on this planet. however, at the same time there are so many happy moments on this earth, things you wouldn't even know of! so many genuine smiles, joy and hope everywhere! don't let yourself forget that this world is not black and white, it has so much more depth and so much more to see and experience and learn! both good and bad things

[@I.survived.anotherday]

I was r*ped by a family member close to me. So I can relate a lot and at the end when it’s said “why is my belly so big and round” I froze…I didn’t even think that it was a game like that. And now I’m crying

[@XXDTI4EVAAZXZX]

I feel sorry for you..

[@alexmadness19]

shit bro, it really hurts me when i see these types of comments, im so sorry for what happened.

[@Random_stuffs583]

I’m very sorry that happened…

[@ssparklzzz]

me too, and unfortunately by my father also. i just kinda, stopped functioning for a moment when i saw the words :( i wish you the best, im so sorry you had to go through that

[@_-_wormzX3]

holy fuck that's messed up. if you ever need to talk to someone im available

[@MichaelHeil-qz3jj]

Mark: "If Henry doesn't stop barking, I'll bring him in here!" Everyone: "HENRY PLEASE KEEP BARKING!!!"

[@deathlordicelord8402]

well screw you... but yes that's entirely correct

[@themosaicshow]

what breed of dog is henry? does anybody know?

[@womp47]

@@themosaicshow mixed golden im pretty sure

[@cedrickpalad8520]

Bro, 2k likes and 3 comments

[@themosaicshow]

@@womp47 ooo! ty!

[@michellecruz8429]

Mark: threatens to bring Henry to the camera if he barks again Everyone: *holds breath hoping Henry barks* Edit: Wow, 10k likes?? Crazy! XD

[@jeremyaldert9311]

yes

[@cryptic5322]

i dont know what you all believe in but i believe in Jesus Christ, you may believe in Him as well, if you do, i hope you are where you need to be with Him, if you arent i hope you will accept him into your life, you may know the the story already, but He willingly died for everybody, and that includes you, if you are wondering if something is sinful look up Scripture about it online (i recommend the King James Version), i hope you read The Bible, and find a good church, ill leave you with some Scripture, Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Romans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

[@IbarakiPlays]

Exactly 😂 I said "Do it boy! Do it!"

[@markipliertrash1562]

Me too xD

[@flaxco]

cringe

[@NickMasterMind]

honestly, when she said "Why is my belly so big and round" i immediately teared up, thats so fucked.

[@swirlypanda]

What does it mean?

[@aa._.nchalll]

​@swirlypanda that shes pregnant. He's playing a game adapted a real crime story you can go watch it

[@aa._.nchalll]

​@swirlypanda its because she's pregnant. Hes playing a game adapted from real life crime case "fritzl case" you can check it on youtube

[@blazing7044]

@@swirlypanda impregnation

[@Bandit_The_Raptor]

@@swirlypandasexual assault.

[@iheartsurferboys]

33:53 "They're best when they're fresh" this sentence made my heart break into a milion pieces...

[@BroStopSpyingOnTheNeighbors]

Why💀

[@formy_beloved]

@@BroStopSpyingOnTheNeighbors Possibly a reference to the fact that the player is a YOUNG girl and that "papa"... Touches her.

[@BroStopSpyingOnTheNeighbors]

@@formy_beloved why is “papa” quoted? He is her papa after all..

[@formy_beloved]

@@BroStopSpyingOnTheNeighbors It's just that I'd rather not want to refer to the player's abuser as an actual father.

[@rustyhowe3907]

@@BroStopSpyingOnTheNeighbors To be a Papa is to be genuinely good father, this character was very obviously not.

[@itrashcant7947]

Holy shit, that ending hit me like a train. And now I realized why you take the pills to make you sleepy…obviously papa is coming downstairs when it gets dark. I am going to go stare blankly at the wall now and contemplate my life.

[@Brimmsune]

?

[@VOlDNOVA]

@@Brimmsune there is no implications, this game is about CSA. If you research about CSA crimes on google you'll know; Its better to be educated as soon as possible than be ignorant and suffer if something happens.

[@itrashcant7947]

@@Brimmsune You play as a little girl who gets sexually abused. The pills are sedatives; papa makes you take them so you'd be asleep when he assaults you.

[@Will.cosplay.Solace]

@@Brimmsunehe does stuff to her body while shes passed out asleep

[@g.motter1295]

​@@Brimmsuneshe is pregnant 🤰🤰🤰🤰

[@camron927]

i don’t know why but him calling her “princess” made it abundantly clear to me that the ending was leaning towards what i thought it be.

[@mrtoast244]

she's his cutie

[@idkj350]

​@@mrtoast244what the fuck!

[@mrtoast244]

@@idkj350 wat

[@Yummy.Cherii.]

@@mrtoast244ur saying that bro that’s not funny what’s wrong w u???

[@Meeeekaa]

@@mrtoast244 do you not know what's happening in the game my love..?

[@swoukii]

My stomach and heart dropped instantly from the last line. God i feel dirty and weird now thinking about what happened before at the start of the game to lead there. I have goosebumps

[@dawnofchickens047]

Same I just feel so ill that this thing is a real occurrence

[@okreincarnated9046]

@@dawnofchickens047 what does that last line about the Nelly mean? Could you explain it to me I don’t get it

[@maximiliane2877]

⁠@@okreincarnated9046 the girl (through whose perspective we’re playing) asks her father why her belly got round and big, implying a pregnancy and thereby implying that the girl is a victim of SA by her own father. my personal interpretation is that the father kept her in the basement in order to isolate her, to brainwash her and to make her depend on him. the "monsters" he’s talking about are probably authorities, such as police etc, hence the password. (again, the last part is just my own interpretation, hope it helps u understand!!)

[@bradyspence8561]

@illuminati1862cringe

[@literaldipwad7786]

@illuminati1862this is a crazy response to child SA. literally read the room

[@Ur_Omni.Bestie]

The fact that this game is based on a true story scares me. “I am not scared of God, but I am scared of Man.”

[@iatepacman166]

i havent yet seen a comment about the symbolism of the plants, like in my eyes whenever he waters them, the little messages afterwards like “grow big and strong little one” sort of tie in to the relationship between the father and daughter because she thinks shes being provided with care when really she isnt, just like how even as the plants are being watered they arent growing.

[@Addis_IRLAdventures]

I felt that the plant the girl kept on watering, most likely was there to represent a growing fetus (hence her grown belly at the end). But I do like your theory! Despite the sad reality of this game 😞

[@A-U69]

@@Addis_IRLAdventures Yeah, I was thinking the same. After the big reveal, I went back and started picking up on the little things. It was plain as day to see what was happening afterwards, but when you don't know, you put your trust in people you shouldn't. As the player, you feel the betrayal knowing what is actually happening, but the girl is indifferent.

[@Addis_IRLAdventures]

@@A-U69 It’s crazy how it’s just as difficult to trust your own family members as strangers in this day and age.

[@wolfbanesons]

@@Addis_IRLAdventures thought the same.

[@Hevensdragon]

She is voluntarily taking care of them without being reminded, if they were real she would probably get reminded, so maybe fake plants. Its odd the plants never grow, with how much symbolism is in place, that should mean somthing. As someone else also mentioned, The lines she says to them are kind of odd, less things to say to plants, and more things to say to very young children, so they could might even be other younger children she is taking care of, and she can't perceive them correctly do to the drugs. Added layers of messed up, they may even be her children, or even bodies. With the whole eyes deceive them and the forces on drugs and such trauma the rabbits hole is deep. On a lighter note there are other endings, including one she escapes after not taking the pills. So if it was the drugs distorting her perception she would see them correctly in that ending, which partially rules out some of the most messed up possibilities, but if her mind is shielding itself from reality it may be what's distorting her perception instead of the drugs. In a messed up way though we know he is specifically only doing things while she is asleep, which would vastly limit what she is aware of and processing, so odds are she isn't aware enough for her mind to need to distorting things to that degree. So the most likely option of these is that the plants are plastic ones, or he is replacing the plants when they die from no sunlight.

[@shayisswaggy7173]

This actually makes me cry dude mark needs to do a remake of the game and not take the pills. But just the fact that this child in the game was so small absolutely astonishes me and it’s absolutely sick that a human being would even think to do this to another person

[@وحده_من_أقمار_كوكب-المشترى]

What's worse is that person is her father

[@shayisswaggy7173]

@@وحده_من_أقمار_كوكب-المشترى or as we think maybe he just kidnapped her and made her call him papa 🤷‍♀️

[@shayisswaggy7173]

@@وحده_من_أقمار_كوكب-المشترى but either way it’s still terrible

[@وحده_من_أقمار_كوكب-المشترى]

@@shayisswaggy7173 Yes, bit imagine the person who you thought is protecting you straight up does that when you're asleep

[@ilknur2095]

no its actually her father, this game is based on a real life story unfortunately@@shayisswaggy7173

[@taquyaki]

oh my goodness. when i saw the narrow walls i immediately got reminded of the fritzl case where a father locked his own daughter in a cellar with similar narrow walls and SA'd her a disgusting amount of times. and towards the end of the video my jaw was on the floor bc i couldnt believe my guess was correct. this is so heartbreaking..

[@rn-pk1hl]

and most surprising thing to me is that almost no one realized it was about it

[@Biblically-Accurate-Crow]

And that just makes me think even more that this game is based on that.

[@gaelicrabbit6441]

yeah I just looked into that case after seeing this comment and the game is 100% based off of that case. It's super similar and just horrible.

[@anonymousbear2600]

yeppppp i knew straight away after seeing the layout of the basement, was basically gonna make this comment

[@Creepella19]

Exactly, when I first watched someone play this, I immediately thought of the fritzl case. The movie made me cry so hard

[@marshmilotic7234]

"this is just going to be incredibly depressing" I had the same sinking feeling like oh god this is not gonna be a jaunty horror I gotta set my ramen aside

[@slenderminion2229]

What happened to the creator of Presentable Liberty is really sad. He made a third game called "Menagerie: Archive", set in the same world as the other two. It was a lot more involved than the previous two games, kinda similar to Papers, Please. The problem was that nobody played it. He tried to contact some KZbinrs to play it, but nobody cared or noticed. This dug into his self-worth and, already suffering from severe depression, proved to be the final push he needed to take his own life. Robert Brock died in 2018, feeling as alone as the characters he created.

[@thilsiktonix]

🙁That poor person. May he rest in peace.

[@admiraljesus2433]

RIP Brock we love your work and wish good rest

[@lilguy7491]

Wow... I was trying to remember the name of that series a few days back because I remember enjoying it and I was wondering what, if anything, had happened to it until now. What an awful way to be reminded of it.

[@markodimitrijevic7171]

That last sentence feels so tragically poetic. RIP to Robert

[@carcharoclesmegalodon6904]

@@markodimitrijevic7171 It also feels rather unprovable.

[@JohnShadows47]

At first, i noticed nothing, it was right after mark talked to papa, and he looked back to the hallway from the top of the stairs that the realization sunk... I remember the documentary photos from the case, those small narrow hallways, made of wood.... that gave me chills. Props to the creator.

[@ules5799]

what case is this, please? I didn't know this was based on a real stoy. Thanks in advance

[@brbmaster]

​@@ules5799 google Joseph Fritzl. It happened in Austria.

[@garuparty]

​@@ules5799The Fritzl case

[@ules5799]

@@garuparty right, thanks, didnt see the photos from that case

[@Alenasmusic-g3m]

I thought it was based of that case

[@sbothebean1742]

I'm glad Mark gave the original game the recognition it deserved. It's disgusting and wrong on so many levels that things like this happen to people, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, and the fact it takes so, so, long... too long in my experience, for other people to actually listen to you and take you seriously when you're a child trying your best to get help for something you don't fully comprehend of what's actually going on when someone who's supposed to watch out for you is the one you're supposed to watch out for. Please, for the love of life, if you have a child who sounds shy and scared and they ask you if they can have a lock on their door, specifically one the child has the control of, please listen to them and help them out, DO NOT get angry, the child is probably suffering because they're being victimized by somebody in the house. I had to help myself. I have a lock now, it helps to heal some of the pain but the emotional and mental wounds are too deep. There are days where sleep just isn't something I can do, even when I do sleep, I rarely have dreams anymore good or bad thanks to PTSD dropping in on me like a basket of snakes every other night. Trust in guys is something that I really don't have a whole lot of. My view point is pretty much, "I don't need no man!" in my life. Mark is one of very few guys I actually fully respect. He doesn't joke about things like this, he has empathy and compassion. Henry was a welcome sight. He's so cute!

[@KiriChan99]

I can't imagine what you must've experience but I hope you're doing well now And the insight here is great, I think everyone should take it to heart

[@yumeno-w-]

oh my god reading your comment makes my heart sink :c im so sorry it must have been terrible :c thank you for still being here uwaa idk wut to say or if im making this worse but T.T!!! t take care :c i hope you get the rest you deserve

[@briicksyy]

Well it‘s based on a true case

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzsus]

it's awful it's also true that kids are most often disregarded

[@BublFR]

one of my greatest nightmares, was as a kid, screaming for help, or begging someone to help me, just for them to not believe me.

[@Wubbabunga_heheha]

"why is my belly so round and big?" My room is flooded with tears.......

[@BG-wz1iu]

I think the watering of plants could also be interpreted in two other ways. 1. She waters them every day but they don’t grow just like her. She feeds herself everyday but she doesn’t grow. The foetus is preventing her from growing. In the end her physical condition makes it harder and harder for her to water both plants. 2. She waters 2 plants. Herself and the foetus. Like it gets harder and harder to feed both herself and the foetus as it becomes more and more hungry for energy and nutrients.

[@Zander2.0]

This interpretation made me tear up...

[@Yae_Miko.-simp]

Or like the game form the tablet. Its like…the swim of little macroscopic snakes. And how the pink thing(feminine thingy) is trying to not get the white snakes into it Hope u get what i meant

[@laniiz..treehouse_.]

Holy shit.

[@sokuchatto-sw9wt]

@@Yae_Miko.-simp Feminine thingy = the egg White snakes = sperm cells

[@urlocalrat123]

😢

[@silversilence14]

Mark vanishing out the door like a cryptid to go after Henry is the content I live for

[@hexgleph]

Never had an indie game hit so close to home. Medication used as control, being lied to, being violated by your own family member, being trapped and isolated, either literally or metaphorically. Thank you for being respectful about this, genuinely.

[@angelpr2477]

For such a "traumatic" event, people like you who have experienced this before impresses me with how much they LOVE to talk everyone about it

[@hexgleph]

@@angelpr2477 I actually don't talk to everyone abt it but okay. We are allowed to talk abt this stuff, especially if a game like this actually touches on an issue we've experienced. People like you have no right to say that to us. This genuinely affects us, it affects the way we live and think for the rest of our lives.

[@RAAAUGHGUAGHAHA]

It's really disheartening to see how someone's kneejerk reaction to someone sharing their own horrific experiences is one of insensitivity and hostility. I've never been a victim of this manner of abuse, but I thank you nonetheless for sharing your voice, especially here, where I think voices like yours are even more important to hear. I wish you well, and I hope that you can heal those scars with time.

[@hexgleph]

@@RAAAUGHGUAGHAHA Ngl I've been in a shitty mood all afternoon bc of that person so genuinely thank you. I'm glad that there are people like you in the world who are respectful. It feels comforting that I'm not alone too, thanks to the other victims who've shared their experiences ^^

[@grimch7325]

​@@angelpr2477why are you in like 60% of all comments under this video

[@adjeidarobinson8976]

The line that Mark said made me really understand the entire situation “why are the walls made out of cork” what other part of your house would the walls be made like that, basement walls would.

[@Stella-wb9uf]

Can I just say the story behind this is absolutely disgusting. I knew what was going on as soon as the guy started telling her she should be sleepy. It leaves a pit in your stomach that is always recognizable.

[@CrystalRose1111]

I wonder if mark figured that out. Probably not

[@gault6546]

@@CrystalRose1111well he seemed to realise it at the end

[@stim2704]

Hoping Markiplier plays doors 🙏

[@toxpov3612]

@@02o. comment didn't even say that lol

[@Valuepak]

I did not figure that out until i read the comments

[@Maxih_oficial]

"apples taste better when fresh" this phrase ia more disgusting when you see the end.

[@AveryOverman]

@Yoru_DevilBellaoh my..

[@Rainestorm999]

oh...OH..

[@DinogirlXD]

:(

[@Nonexistility]

That apple foreshadowing is so gross and well put at the same time. "They're best when they're fresh."

[@aquaryan5688]

I hadn't even thought about that...

[@BigBroDan]

OHHHH NOOOOO. GOD I HATE HUMANITY.

[@elaineschow5700]

Ohhh fuckkkkk- I thought that it was worded weird

[@exhaustedallthetime]

I have some sort of idea as to what this means but can someone explain so I can be sure

[@elaineschow5700]

@@exhaustedallthetime gotta get em well they'er "young and fertile" let's say

[@cheecrafts]

“Makes you feel bad about the decisions you make” real.

[@BlueberryOfficial_29]

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