My Husband Is Going To A Friend For Advice, A Friend He Had An Affair With Before r/Relationships

[@katraylor]

Story 1: So when Jack was 35 years old, he had an ongoing affair with a 19-year-old. When the affair was discovered, the 19-year-old's life "imploded" but Jack's carried on as usual? There is something severely seedy about Jack and OP never should have gotten involved with him.

[@seleneledezma3543]

Jack got divorced, I don't think his life continued as usual... Having said that, Jack is the asshole here. Everything starts and ends with Jack.

[@clownrat5759]

@@seleneledezma3543he groomed that girl.

[@katraylor]

@@seleneledezma3543 I think his wife died, actually?

[@seleneledezma3543]

@@katraylor really? I didn't read that part...

[@seleneledezma3543]

@@clownrat5759 how do you know? I don't see that info in the post....

[@carlrood4457]

Why did the therapist allow him to just shut down conversations about Sophie? It kind of defeats the point if she's not allowed to talk about the thing she believes is most wrong with their marriage

[@nicolasfrazier170]

Because the actual reason they were their was to try to help him get over HER cheating on him. Any mention of Sophie is deflection

[@calebhoffman6368]

@@nicolasfrazier170thank you! Why are people glossing over this lol

[@prettyangel0921]

​@@nicolasfrazier170 who the hell goes to therapy for one issue?

[@maggpiprime954]

​@@prettyangel0921It's a starting point. You're not gonna water the plants in the bathroom when the toaster is on fire in the kitchen. The plants can wait.

[@prettyangel0921]

@@maggpiprime954 😂please explain what that hell that has to do with what I said.

[@Charles-sd7xu]

The only cat he’s had live for over ONE YEAR?! ONE YEAR?!?! 12 MONTHS?! 365 DAYS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Sorry I cannot imagine a reason where he has had multiple cats that live less than a year where the reason for them dying isn’t his fault.

[@MemristerBoogieDown]

Well, I mean the man is taking the cat’s imaginary emotions over his fiancé and her real ones so I’m not thinking he’s the most balanced person.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

Right?! Why did he want to add that? I am so concerned!

[@katie6731]

Someone I know used to adopt cats and let them outside. Their house backed up on a busy street and was close to a canyon known to have coyotes, snakes, local kids playing target practice with anything that moved, frequent brush fires, and all matter of other hazards to cats. Their cats never lasted long. Even when their children begged to keep the cats indoors, they wouldn't allow it. Eventually, between the kids getting so upset at losing beloved pets and the person's spouse wanting a dog, they stopped adopting cats. (The dog was a nightmare, but that's another story.) I don't understand why someone would choose to adopt and love creatures they knew from experience wouldn't be around long. I _really_ don't understand why anyone would put their kids through that kind of repeated heartbreak.

[@damien678]

​​@@katie6731 On your last statement, it's one thing if the creature naturally has a short lifespan, like a rat. It's a healthy way to teach kids about death and to appreciate others while they're around. It's an entirely different situation to be that grossly negligent, though... I'm so upset for those poor cats.

[@blamified]

Literally wtffff

[@LongNight_Moonlight]

The first story was a major train wreck, setting aside OP's own wrongdoings the husband's friendship with an old AP was wildly inappropriate. I get interacting because their kids are friends but getting relationship advice is just to far.

[@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh]

"Setting aside" Of course you would 🙄

[@01wonderful]

Yea. I find them both to be idiots. He's an idiot for remaining friends with an AP and she's an idiot for kissing another man. I'll never understand this stupid trend of getting drunk as hell then hooking up with random men or women.

[@LadyJoolree]

Kissing someone is not hooking up though. And it's definitely NOT a full blown affair. Some people are so fast to try and burn this woman at the stake 🙄 She is not faultless, but they are no way in the same league. Hubs relationship with Sophie was highly inappropriate. He should have just been honest and said he can't be bothered, instead of DARVO! Got her thinking she did it to herself and it was all in her head when he knows damn well how he would feel in the situation was reversed.

[@RomeGod177]

@LadyJoolree, i am not surprised that a cat lady said this 🤣😂. "Kiss," another man, let's be honest here, adults just don't kiss. Op just down playing her cheating. Why else would she leave it out.

[@DemonicGoddess]

I suspect the father lied to cuase the hate, and the daughter is a wh*r* also.

[@LadyJoolree]

Story 2... RUN! The levels of disrespect are appalling. His ex wife is deciding to swing her cod around your abode and relationship and he takes HER side then suggests YOU move out? Nah! The BS excuses doesn't even show any respect for your intelligence. Are you paid more than him? Is it your place? Is your job higher 'status'? It seems a huge chunk of his ego has been triggered by your presence for him to swing so far into this behaviour. Your relationship is already over OP, you're just the last one to get the memo. He has shown you what the rest of your life will look like. Reclaim what you can, then run fast and far!

[@bioshockbrat9171]

Story 2: Why can't the cat visit the ex-wife? Is he really gonna implode a relationship over a cat? I'm not leaving the house for the ex. The cat can go visit.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

I used to drop my dog off for my ex so he could visit with her. I cannae imagine....this...whole bs situation.

[@worldissuesmatter1643]

I have financial documents in my home, I don’t want someone I don’t know in there.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

@@worldissuesmatter1643 you know she finna be sniffing around going through ALL her things when she's not there.

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

"Why can't the cat visit her?" You're making too much sense.

[@Krisna_K]

I doubt she wants to come just to visit the cat!

[@sabr4174]

It’s funny Jack can’t trust OP because of a kiss but he had a whole affair with Sophie while married to Ella’s mom.

[@samantharoggelin1467]

LITERALLY lmfao. Bottom line is that they cannot trust anyone.

[@thomasjoseph5876]

Seriously, why would someone date, let alone marry a cheater??? I think there is a lot more going on here than the OP has told us and what she probably knows. The stepdaughter change of attitude at the end makes me think she found out that her dad and Sofie may be "close" and she is hoping her best friend, Imogen, becomes her new sister so she is now cool with it. Otherwise, there is no reason for the step daughter to have turned on the OP at the end as she did.

[@sarahjaneheckscher6737]

Sophie was a teenager when he was in his forties! Jack is deceitful and very manipulative. I feel very sorry for those children.

[@PairOfSocksGaming]

Ok thank god i wasnt the only person sitting here thinking this. Jack has the absolute balls to say he cant trust her but is infuriated that she cant trust him for an infinitely more valid reason. He admitted that he didnt see what she did as cheating but he cant trust her? Mans totally banging Sophie still

[@757Bricksquad]

You do realize that happened 15 years prior to this post right…? People can change in 15 years.

[@deifieddata4462]

What sort of strange infidelity scheme is Op2's husband trying to pull off? Run off on an "errand" from his wife so he can run back home and screw the ex? Why tf does it have to be in their house?

[@ditzyhere3138]

For sure screams that he's desperate to get back together with his ex. The cat is just an excuse.

[@Mewse1203]

Story 1: wait...so Her husband cheated with a teenager for several years and only *the teenager* suffered any consequences for that cheating. Then he continues a "platonic" relationship with that person, who is admittedly no longer a teenager. OP expresses massive misgivings about him staying in contsct with the person he spent years cheating with....but she's the asshole for being insecure? Nah dude. The husband and his "friend" are the assholes. I dont care that OP kissed a dude. Her husband didnt givr two fucks about her and what OP told Ella is true: if not for Sophie, things would be different. I don't care if they were cheating or not at this point that relationship was unacceptable

[@YoYo-gt5iq]

I'm blown away she married a guy who did this. She knew about it when she met him.

[@OmniscientlyMe]

Why are you taking a biased quote at face value when you know the guy ended up divorced? And why would that be a surprise that a teen had more apparent consequences from their perspective? She was a home wrecker, so she was social poison. And girls that age generally have no money or career of their own yet. Whereas a guy in his 30s generally has a career and finances to fall back on at minimum.

[@ronhall5395]

The way I understood it, the 19 yr old was devastated by the break up. She evidently healed, went to school and married and had a kid. His daughter and Sophie's daughter became friends at school. So jack and Sophie became sort of friends. Then Jack remarried and Sophie's husband died. Jacks new wife got caught drunk kissing some random dude in a bar. Jack ran to Sophie for legal advice( I call be on this) and comfort. His feel hi Mrs were hurt. He came on to Sophie and she denied him and told him to work on his marriage. Jack went thru the motions but was still running back to Sophie for "advice". In summary, Jack regrets marriage to OP and now that Sophie is available wants her instead of his wife. Then they all start being jerks and drag the kids into it. Jack was never serious about resolving his marital problems. He just wanted to spend time with Sophie. Now he is divorcing buys wife of two years. I predict he will profess his love for Sophie and she will turn him down and friend zone him. Goid job Jack.

[@Mewse1203]

@OmniscientlyMe you're kidding, right? She's a homewrefker? How about the guy who was married? HE is the homewrecker. Not only that l, but your wrong. He didn't get divorced. OP said he LOST his wife, not that he got divorced. That implies they stayed married and she died. Y I don't care what anyone says: 19 may be a legal adult but they are definitely not fully formed adults. Their brain is literally not full6 formed. You know who is? The male in his 40s who was married and had kids and began an affair with someone closer to a child than an adult.

[@cathybaldry7822]

His daughter deserved to know the truth that her father was cheating on her mother, and the current highly questionable association most definitely has destroyed a second marriage.

[@stirlingarcher7972]

Story 1: he’s still ‘friends’ with his former affair partner, there was no way for them to ever have a healthy relationship with that kind of shit show

[@Ashbrash1998]

Story 1: Im just say ESH except the kids, like its not common for people to be okay that you still have a relationship with your affair partner or the fact you drnk kissed someone while married. I also think its telling that he never wanted to bring up Sophie in therapy despite it being a big problem in his marriage but was willing to over what OP did.

[@samiulhuda4001]

because she cheated in their relationship he didnt. whatever happened with sophie happened almost 20 years ago.

[@millicentdagworth6858]

Is no one going to mention how a 41 year old had an affair with 19 year old

[@nicolasfrazier170]

If the ages are true you are correct, but I straight up don’t believe the OP about the ages. She hid the fact her cheating was the cause for therapy, and if Jack didn’t consider the kiss cheating because she was drunk him then losing trust doesn’t make sense. The whole story was to make herself look better so I would not be surprised if the ages were fudged.

[@adawongkennedy6570]

They're too busy telling her the that she's the only one to blame. Op's husband is a creepy AH. Is not the first time I see people ignoring cheating when is the man who did. People are going as far as to say that he's not cheating now, that Sophie is just a friend, like, c'mon. Everyone knows that if the genders were reversed, and was Op the creep who keeps in contact with her "ex" affair partner, everyone would jump straight to accusations. And besides, she told his daughter about the affair, people always claim that children need to know why their parents divorced, now she knows her father cheated on her mother. I don't believe not even for a second that he wasn't cheating with Sophie, he made very clear that he doesn't respect Op (even before her drunk kiss) nor his first ex wife. I give 2 to 3 weeks for Sophie moving in with Op's ex husband.

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

Semantics here, but he would have been 35 and Sophie 19…still wrong, why would a man old enough to be her father, want to hook up with a teenager? It’s always a much, much younger woman! Like dude, she hasn’t even matured yet…but I guess that’s the point 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@sadtitties222]

​​@@adawongkennedy6570 Yes, you said it perfectly! It's astounding how people are mostly bringing up OP cheating, but are casually forgetting that Jacky boy straight up messed with a fresh out of high school girl and continued to be the "best of friends" with her to this very day. You better believe shit was happening behind OP's back and even though ESH, Jack is definitely the worst offender when it comes to the adults of this trainwreck of a story. I feel so sorry for Ella and Imogen and I hope they heal their friendship and from the trauma the adults (mostly Jack) caused.

[@PuppyKatt]

"Is no one going to mention how a 41 year old had an affair with 19 year old" Well let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees, and the flowers and the trees ...

[@atty7697]

OP did something wrong yes, buy her feelings about her husband and his former affair partner is valid. They were at the very least having an emotional affair. Best for them to go there separate ways.

[@NemFX]

Story two: dude. He wants you to leave him. He literally wants you to move out. Take the hint.

[@lynnw7155]

No sane person would tell you that it's not mentally healthy to be in YOUR house with you, so YOU get out??? Ex is after your fiancee, and he seems to be agreeing to it. Agreed; take the hint and leave.

[@TheIronwil]

Last Story: …WTF?!? I’m saddened that anyone’s self-respect is so low they’d have to ask if they were the AH for not wanting their fiancé’s ex to stay IN THEIR HOUSE while SHE had to go get a hotel. That’s so pathetic it’s heartbreaking.

[@Lestaticate]

Last Story: I love how the fiancée feels like his privacy is violated despite having this story being posted anonymously. Also his “rational” explanations are only making MORE readers give him the side eye. Personally I’d drop this engagement real damn quick because I have a feeling OP would see this crazy ex will camp out in their house on a regular basis, and that’s a “hell naw” from me! Ex fiancé can take the cat with him. Feel bad for the cat tho, ngl. Crazy human parent alert.

[@clownrat5759]

OP’s husband is good gone. He, an adult in his 30’s-40’s groomed a literal teenager who was BARELY above legal age of consent. What the hell. Why is nobody talking about that TERRIFYING age gap?!

[@justinecorrington4106]

Because everyone in this story sucks. Op hid her own infidelity; making her an unreliable narrator

[@clownrat5759]

@@justinecorrington4106 that has nothing to do with what I said.

[@9999plato]

And if it was a 19 year old man you all would be saying "You go girl"! "Cougar Power"! Regardless, she was an adult. She bears him no ill will. He paid the price with what was no doubt a costly divorce. At the crux of the issue was OPs insecurities, her cheating, her crazy and destructive actions that led to a divorce where she ADMITS that it was her insecurities that caused ALL of this. Hidden in there is a tacit admission that there was no current affair between Sophie and STB Ex husband. Pay attention to what is important here.

[@clownrat5759]

@@9999plato who is “you all”?? If it was a 19 year old man and a 30-40 year old woman I’d STILL be saying the 19 year old was groomed. Grow up. Life isn’t black and white. Stop assuming what people think and have a grown up conversation.

[@shadamyandsonamylover]

@@clownrat5759”life isn’t black and white” - rich from someone who’s saying an adult can’t date another adult because there’s an age gap. Cheating is wrong but I hate people like you who demonize age-different relationships. Let people live their own lives and make their own decisions.

[@Artem2034]

ESH for 1st story but lets be honest, OPs ex is going to destroy every relationship possible because there aren't many people who will not find his relationship with Sophie as weird or crossing a line. OP definitely sucks but her ex seriously needs to do some self-reflection and ask himself whether staying in touch with Sophie is so important that he doesn't want to be with anyone? I can guarantee that most women wouldn't want to be with him in the current state. There are two possibilities - he is either dense or he has feelings for Sophie. He needs to figure out which because otherwise he isn't doing himself, his kids, Sophie or potential future partners any favors.

[@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat]

Oh yeah it's 100% ESH. I mean yes op shouldn't have cheated but also her ex shouldn't have ever become friends with an affair partner. It's been an issue ever since op found out, which was way later than it should have been.

[@pippo17173]

@@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat this post is just a train wreck. These people include op all suck and she is so oblivious to not expect this lol.

[@YellaBellaReno]

I don’t trust the OP to give an honest account of what is going on, though. Leaving out that she cheated is all I needed to know. Her husband may have not been very close to Sophie at all, but OP sure was pushing him into her arms by the end. OP’s own account said that the first time he went to Sophie for advice was for a divorce lawyer…

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

Oh you can bet they got into a relationship after his divorce and her dumping the new man!

[@stevenbart2375]

I have a hard time calling OP an AH here. Yes, she was in the wrong for kissing another man, but she's literally the only one who made any effort to repair her relationship, while Jackass just took it as an excuse to have at least an emotional affair, but I would bet money there WAS some physical cheating. And then lying to his daughter to alienate her from OP, and teaming up with her to gaslight OP into blaming herself? I have to agree with the ESH, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Jack is a shitty person, a worse husband, and even worse father.

[@Tammohawk1]

2. That woman isn't there to see the cat. She want's to get back with OP's fiance. Nope, I wouldn't leave my home either. That is just crazy. The cat will be sad? This is insanity. I hope OP updates this story.

[@abubarrie88]

The audacity, her mental health isn’t anyone else’s problem but hers she should seek therapy. Why all of a sudden care about the cat and why is the fiancé prioritizing his ex and wanting to put you out. This relationship should end before marriage.

[@Anonymous-mf2go]

Dude, the daughters in story 1 have my full support with all the adults being super shady and dealing with an ED. The road ahead will be hard but i wish them peace and happiness

[@jenniferanderson7010]

Oh both parents are gross. I was on her side, the OP, until she flapped her jaw at Ella, thus harming both Imogen AND Ella, and just for funsies. That was a shitty thing to do.

[@AppleStrawberryLove]

I mean... I'd bet money that part of why the girls have EDs is due to their parents' actions. It is likely partly the kids trying to have some control in their lives after the adults made it a mess. The entire group is a disaster.

[@charityquill4965]

​@@jenniferanderson7010 she was wrong to put all the blame in the divorce on the mother of the girls best friend. She dragged kids that have nothing to do with the original dispute into this mess, almost destroying their friendship. The husband is a cheating loser but OP handles this situation in the worst way possible

[@bautistalover]

@@jenniferanderson7010that’s why I doubt her story. She deliberately lied on that woman. She has no proof of an affair. At most the woman was guilty of giving them good advise on the eating disorder and for talking OPs husband to stay in the relationship.

[@Jamie-gc9cp]

i do not. that daughter is so willing to forgive her dad and Sophie even though they cheated and betrayed her mom. if jack and Sophie had any decency they would not have allowed her and Sophie's daughter to be friends.

[@jackwatt8988]

1: of course he files for divorce. She said she doesn't trust him to not delete texts from his phone. She doesn't trust him, so there is no reason for them to be together. But, I honestly don't blame her for not trusting him. He was married and cheated with this woman, and now she's his close friend? Weird.

[@kaykay8855]

Plus Sophie was 19, barely legal. Could it be possible that he groomed her?

[@jamestomlin5525]

Dude she's the one that cheated and is deflecting to save face

[@kaykay8855]

@@jamestomlin5525 I’m just pointing out that op’s ex was a grown man and pursued a 19 year old girl. I’m not saying she’s completely innocent in this but still he still gets defensive in there therapy sessions whenever op brings up that she’s uncomfortable that he’s friends with his, barely legal at the time, affair partner.

[@jamestomlin5525]

​@kaykay8855 therapy sessions they have BECAUSE THE OP CHEATED. It's crummy people still demonize the guy, yeah he made a mistake but he wasn't cheating

[@toothless3835]

@@jamestomlin5525 They're both cheaters. Both are garbage people. But it sounds like he's worse because she was drunk when she kissed someone, and he was completely sober and dated a 19 year old, actively. And from the info, sounds likely spelt with the girl because she was an affair partner, not a drunken mistake. He's an asshat. OP's an idiot.

[@dm9078]

How is a 54 year old woman that clueless? Even if former affair partner isn’t interested in him, which I doubt is true, he is obviously interested in her! My question is, why did Opie marry a man whom she knew cheated on his wife? After that update ESH! What awful people! I love that she is glossing over whatever it was she did! 😂😂😂! The husband was a 30 something man who had an affair wits 19 YO girl yeah they all suck NTA! Leave her home for this woman’s “mental health!” Fiancé has told OP where his concerns are. And it ain’t her!

[@80soa]

Like why would it make sense to have couple counceling and continue to ask for relationship advice from a former lover when that asking for advice is one of the reasons for the relationship problems as well lmao

[@zotaninoron3548]

@@80soa Because he wasn't invested in the counseling or the marriage the way the OP was. He was doing it to see if he could get over the trust issues that developed from her cheating. Because she was invested in preserving the marriage while he believed the trust issues between them were probably irreparable. That's clear in the story articulated by the poster. Let us all remember that there is no evidence that Jack is cheating with Sophie only the insecurity of someone who also cheated seeing the reflection of her own actions and is the only perspective we're given. The issue with OP is that she is making relationship demands do to her own insecurity without any leverage because of her own infidelity.

[@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh]

OP is cray cray 😜

[@babymac1379]

@@zotaninoron3548 Honestly, I don't think you need "leverage" to say 'hey, I don't feel comfortable with you sharing intimate details about our relationship with someone youj've had an affair with'. The more you get cast aside for that discomfort, the more it's going to come up. I don't see how this relationship was ever going to last.

[@Bala_Niranna]

Nah ops the worst. The way she dragged the daughter into this and tried to blow up this woman's life, after she herself cheated and apparently blamed Jack for "neglecting" her

[@AryonaSamoto]

Story 1: They Would never have worked. He would always prioritize Sophie over OP and OP will always feel like second best. Story 2: His ex definitely wants him back and is using the cat as an excuse and he is trying to have both woman. If he hasn't cheated already, he will be cheating. Great work on the new art Mark, it's perfect. The new reading from your phone images are hilariously on point😉👍

[@757Bricksquad]

Wtf are you talking about? How is Sophie being prioritized over his wife? Also, their daughters are best friends, how tf is OP supposed to cut this woman out of his life. the “advice” he was getting from her was about how to go about getting a divorce…since you know Sophie is an attorney. Anything to justify the woman’s awful behavior and demonize the man. You’re delusional. OP‘a husband’s affair was over 15 years ago at the time of the post. OP cheated less than 2 years ago on her husband. Then OP had the AUDACITY to tell her husband’s daughter that the reason they’re getting divorced is because of OP’s cheating 15 years ago and NOT because she ducking cheated less than 2 years ago. Oh yea, did you hear the part where this was the first time the daughter learned about the reason her father’s original marriage ended. OP HAD NO FUCKING RIGHT TO DO THAT. Clearly OP and his ex decided it was best to leave that info out to preserve her relationship with her father. You people justifying OP in this post are fucking nuts.

[@everdreamcosplay]

The WAFFLE PHONE!

[@immapotato1]

Story 1: once she got caught as an unreliable narrator as she completely lied about the reason for the couple's therapy all her arguements had a big "?" in my head. if she lied about the therapy what else did she make up to fit into her narrative. maybe they don't even talk to each other them just saying "hi" on the street is the entire affair in her mind. Story 2: they want the house to themselves to fool around without OP getting in the way.

[@dannyells]

I love that Sophie was the one trying to save her marriage.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Wait let me get this straight. OP also cheated? And they went therapy for that?? I still think Jack and Sophie are cheating. This much drama in a 2 year marriage? This was a match made in hell, they should've never gotten together and I'm glad they divorced. We are NOT comparing the severity of incidents here. Never did I say they were the same or comparable. Most people consider kissing cheating and this incident led them to therapy it seems. They are not the same, but both cheating and these people shouldn't be together.

[@lynnw7155]

Is kissing another man cheating? Even Jack considered it a 'mistake', not cheating. I could never stay with a man who is so close to a former (?) affair partner.

[@My9thMyJoy]

@@lynnw7155yes, kissing another man is cheating.

[@jamestomlin5525]

@lynnw7155 you people are bad as the smerts over on reddit, jfc lol

[@slimecorn]

Kissing another man is cheating, but grooming a 19 y/o old to cheat with is worse imo.

[@AndyyWithAY]

@slimecorn Didn't say either was worse. These two people are trainwrecks, both did wrong, and should not be together.

[@dopaminedrought395]

Cats can absolutely be sad and miss their owners, but it doesn't work like the story describes. The cat doesn't know the ex is coming and it's been so long since she's seen it last. My best friend's cats see me once a year and they need some time to get reacquainted with me every time.

[@zebokorremontes7136]

How is it that when having an affair, the not-married girl's life implodes, but the married man's life not?

[@thefallennero5265]

It's really funny how OP chose to leave out until very later in the story that her "mistake" was kissing another man while out with friends, also any else see past the bs of Jack and Sophie "just being friends"? "Sophie just started seeing someone." I'm curious how long that relationship will last given how her and Jack are "just friends"

[@thefallennero5265]

@rebecca6572 Lol I'll take that bet

[@OmniscientlyMe]

They had years were they were both single and nothing happened between them...but now that Jack is married again and Sofie's husband is dead they suddenly want a second affair? People are you hearing yourselves or just having fun making up a drama?

[@samiulhuda4001]

@rebecca6572 hopefully they do. she sounds better than the cheater 304 wife OP

[@MyInnerWeirdo]

​@@OmniscientlyMeonce a cheater always a cheater, and Jack knows he can manipulate a very young woman hes manipulated before

[@OmniscientlyMe]

@@MyInnerWeirdo Ah yes, pessimistic oversimplification. Such a valuable tool for successful relationships. /s And we'll just ignore that cheater applies to the OP as well, recently, and in their current relationship. And that the OP originally omitted that fact, which probably means it wasn't just "kissing, one time, while drunk".

[@AndyyWithAY]

Wait WTF!! This heifer wants to commandeer OP's home for the weekend when she won't even meet OP?? I'd be reconsidering my relationship. He's only had one cat that lived over 1 year?? That sounds disturbing.

[@KCohere33]

I know right? I was like what the heck does that mean? Is he poisoning his cats or something? When they breakup, I hope she takes the cat with her.

[@jakemarie828]

Can you please stop calling women cows? I've seen it in a few of your comments now and it's really degrading. There isn't really an equivalent insult for men so it's just sexist language.

[@AndyyWithAY]

@jakemarie828 I'm going to do whatever I want. I don't consider it to be sexist or degrading but you do you boo.

[@paden1865able]

​@@jakemarie828To be honest, I call men jackasses when they're stubborn and boorish, but that's what my dad taught me to call them. As well as polecats, skunks, or rabid wolverines...

[@AndyyWithAY]

@OriginalContent89 Not familiar with cat lifespans, but I know a year is extremely short. What's the average usually?

[@jakemarie828]

Just take the cat to a pet safe hotel. After the update, it seems like there's weird boundaries and emotional affair behvior in this one too.

[@smilingbandit6900]

where can i find the update?please be kind an share a link.

[@jakemarie828]

@@smilingbandit6900 i meant in the video

[@faeriefire78]

There's a bonus AH in the first story: OP's friend who told her husband she kissed someone else IN FRONT OF HIS KIDS. Regardless of where you stand on outing cheaters, I think we can universally agree that it should be a private conversation, and definitely not in front of the kids. 🤦‍♀

[@paden1865able]

My cats prefer NOT to have visitors and disappear when people come over for the most part. Ex cannot kick you out of your home and if your partner insists, tell him that you're moving out for good.

[@francissobotka8725]

In the first story OP fancies herself the victim .Good on Jack for divorcing her.OP cheated on Jack .

[@LOLtz1]

You really got to feel for Ella in this situation because she has to deal with a cheater of a father and stepmom. Now she has gone through two divorces in her life before even finishing high school. That type of crazy environment not good for a kid.

[@msinformation91]

What is it with all these men holding on to exes with both hands to the point that they tank their relationships?

[@childfreechick2980]

Story 1: OP is def TA but she has every reason not to truat her husband and sophie. How ironic. A notorious cheater not being able to recover from his wife drunk kissing someone else. He should see it as his karma but no. Refusing to cut off his affair partner from his previous relationship knowing it makes his new wife insecure. They had mutual trust issues to work on but he wanted to ignore her trust issues with him. That man has no remorse for his previous affair, no accountability, and no respect for OP. The end of that relationship is the best thing to happen to her. He and sophie will end up together. They always end up with the friend they told you not to worry about. Lmao.

[@757Bricksquad]

Are you fucking kidding me? The affair happened 15 years prior to the post…15 YEARS. People can change A LOT after 15 years of life. OP literally cheated in their current marriage that’s been going on for less than 2 years. What are these mental gymnastics you’re trying to pull to justify OP or make OP’s husband out to be the bad guy??? If she didn’t trust her husband to not cheat, then she should have either never got with him, or just end the marriage. This is what OP’s ex has decided to do. OP tried to make completely unsubstantiated claims to his daughter that this woman that cheated with her father 15 years prior is the reason they are getting a divorce, when in fact, IT WAS BECAUSE SHE CHEATED. Then, out of spite, she decides to share with OP’s daughter about her father’s past infidelity WHICH SHE HAD NO RIGHT TO DO. OP is the one and only asshole in this story.

[@Kelsey1442]

If she wants him. I think that Sophie was young and nieve when she had the affair with a married man. Who knows the lies he told her and she believed since she was soooo young. She was 19. I’m hoping that she grew up smarter. I think he wanted her and she didn’t want him and made the excuse about nobody compared to her late husband. Definitely messed up.

[@kishagirl92]

THIS! The gall of this man.

[@ameixsell]

It was 15 years prior, and there's no info that he didn't face consequences within his previous marriage.

[@ameixsell]

I would never trust the words of someone who tried to hurt the teenagers friendship with her friend and her friends mom. It reeks of "husband would have no reason to be friends with Sophie if I ruin his and her daughters friendship" She sounds manipulative and vindictive.

[@ChangedWinds]

Story 1: I love how OP's husband didn't trust OP after a single kiss with another man, but didn't think being elbow deep in "his best friend" and then continuing being "friends" with her is normal. I got some issues but FFS. Story 2: 😐 Bruh wut 😐

[@faciaw771]

1st story: she's better off with someone else. Jack has feelings for Sophie as much as he wants to deny it

[@GBunnyG]

OMG the avatar of you looking at your phone with popped eyes 😂

[@madambutterfly1997]

Some food for thought in your future relationships. If you’re feeling neglected by your next SO/spouse, go drown yourself in hobbies. Don’t go getting drunk and kissing first guy to show you more attention your SO. Or bring people who can guarantee that you can NEVER attempt that

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

@@LostSoulchild89just make sure it’s not a partner with a former AP bestie!

[@Songbirdstress]

OP is dodging a bullet. Guy is an AH. Cheated on his wife, emotionally cheating on OP. Also wrecked Sophie's life. Best out OP.

[@wildwikedwanderer1208]

Story 1: with update 2 I can’t trust OP at all. She used her first chance given to poison guys daughter.

[@gngrblls2thwall]

"Him cheating on someone else 15 years ago is worse than OP cheating on him now" is a strangely popular take

[@leoniemarks4594]

Mark! I absolutely LOVE your new animations! Okay, story 1 : I don't think she is the AH. She's been conditioned to make herself believe that. They've not even been married 2 years and have been having problems since the beginning - why the heck did she marry him? I wouldn't be comfortable with my husband being besties with an old lover, either - and even if there's nothing going on, it's still very fishy. Story 2 : WTF!! Did anybody else pick up on the fact that fiance thinks she should get her OWN place?! What's that supposed to mean? I would be out that door (or he would, depending on who owns/rents the property) in a flash. This isn't just a red flag - it's a whole bloody banner!!

[@adriennewaterhouse5174]

As kids we already knew the answer to story 1 " it takes one to know one " it's always the one worrying over cheating spouses that's the cheating spouse

[@Jen321able]

I feel like everyone is story one, except Imogen, suck. Op sucks for the kiss, Husband is being super sus with Sophie. Sophie for dragging the daughters into it in the first place. Op's stepdaughter (Emma?) For starting shit with her friend over her mother. All of them are a hot mess and need to grow up.

[@stoneman8387]

S1: The conversation with the stepdaughter about the reasons for divorce was an unnecessary and childish low blow. I also have a very good friend with whom I was together for over 2 years and then we realized that we fit better together as friends and ended the relationship (different goals). To this day I value her opinion and advice a lot. She has a good soul, is a wise person and we have been good friends (no extras) ever since (15+ years).

[@Russman67]

Story 2: Fiance's ex needs a weekend with the cat in OP's house Without OP in the house. Didn't even want to meet her host. That cat hasn't seen this ex for a year and a half. Nope nope nope! Fiance needs to stop trying to bang his ex or at least not pick an excuse so laughable.

[@kecward78]

1st Story: ESH OPs hubby had and affair 15 yrs. ago (when he was 36) w/ a 19 (edited as I originally thought I heard/read she was 17) yo. Yes, he IS an effin predator. While the kids aren't related, the timing is still suspect. The fact that they have remained 'friends' after the affair is also very suspect. The SD, Elle, wants to know if she was the cause of their breakup, but is told that it was because her dad, OPs hubby, may still be cheating. Even if he wasn't physically cheating, he def was emotionally cheating. You don't talk to an ex about your current marital probs. That is an obvious betrayal and 'cheating'. While OP is insecure, she put herself in this situation by becoming involved and then marrying the affair partner. Oh, and cancelling the marriage counselor is an obvious ploy to deflect from the guilt of having an affair. 2nd Story: Why is OP being chased from HER home. It should be the ex- that stays in the hotel and the ex- can visit... if she quits with the games and makes eye contact. OP has to stop making excuses for her hubby. He IS shady AF. No one kicks out their spouse for an ex.

[@MemristerBoogieDown]

No, no… You don’t understand. The CAT will be upset. Lol. I really needed a laugh and that line right there did it.

[@ColaLoser]

She was 19, not 17, by the way

[@ColaLoser]

Doesn’t change much but I do feel like OP downplayed her own cheating a bit because it took several updates for her to trickle truth her own cheating. Often cheaters will project onto their spouse and accuse them of cheating when they cheated themselves (because they’re paranoid). All that aside, I think ESH and it’s for the best that the divorce happened.

[@audreym3908]

​@@ColaLoserYep, this

[@OmniscientlyMe]

How are you making up numbers when they said the ages in the story?

[@pelgervampireduck]

Oh, the hypocresy of OP. She cheated and SHE called Sophie names and blamed her for the divorce. It's suspicious OP didn't mention the "mistake" since the beginning.

[@jrod1591]

I knew op cheated too when she said “mistake I made for us to go to therapy.” He absolutely considered it cheating or you wouldn’t have been in therapy.

[@ivanadragmire2873]

Tbh,it feels more like Op: I made a mistake, I feel bad, I want to fix it. Jack: I made a mistake, but I am so unrepentant to the point where I stay friends with my affair partner and if you don't like it, well it's your problem.

[@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat]

If being close friends with a long time affair partner, and also most likely isn't cheating to ops ex, kissing isn't cheating purely based off of what the husband is doing. Op is an AH but the husband is the actual villain of the story for potential having grooming a teen and having that emotional affair and prioritize his affair partner over his wife.

[@bautistalover]

@@ivanadragmire2873well you missed the part where she married him knowing they were already friends. She doesn’t get to make that her hill to die on now.

[@Takeoverartist1987]

“ because of a mistake” I knew instantly she cheated and was trying to play it off

[@jasminerobertson4913]

Yeah and this "I felt neglected" thing is getting old. Especially when it's said by a 54 YEAR OLD WOMAN.

[@dopaminedrought395]

The first story is interesting because you get to see inside the mind of these people who victimize themselves, are suspicious of others, and wave off their own transgressions as no big deal. The OP is an unreliable narrator.

[@robertx8020]

Well it's not like the husband is a saint1

[@MiZZVMN]

She just brushes past the laser where she cheated.

[@godzillakungfu]

@@robertx8020doesn’t change OP from being an unreliable narrator.

[@thomasjoseph5876]

Why would anyone date let alone marry a cheater??? Especially when they are still in contact with the AP and it is a neighbor??? Jack should be avoided like the plague and I don't think the OP is much better. I don't see how the OP is an "unreliable narrator" when she admitted to her transgressions, mistakes, and faults??? A cheater but not an unreliable narrator.

[@RomeGod177]

Yeah, I agree. The op is down playing her cheating. While telling the world about Jack cheating "YEARS" before. An not to mention before he meet op. I say op was having an affair of her own, gotten caught, and is downplaying her roll in this all. While blaming Jack.

[@shanebrown4146]

story 1 is jealousy, She destroyed her own life & children

[@ZoeAlleyne]

God everyone in that first story is just...awful. The way she told Ella that Sophie was the problem just to mess with her and her relationship with her dad and friend. That is so messed up.

[@michaelwoods3651]

Story 1- he’s lost trust in her?!? It’s incredibly inappropriate for him to be so close to someone he had an affair with. He didn’t respect his wife’s boundaries. He’s gonna have a hard time with any woman he wants a relationship with. You don’t go for relationship advice from a former AP.

[@shirokusanagi3901]

Watch the update, his logic will come to make sense.

[@757Bricksquad]

SHE FUCKING CHEATED ON HIM WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? Why wouldn’t he lose trust in her? He’s not close with someone he had an affair with (which was 15 years prior to this by the way). Their children are friends with each other. The ‘advice’ he went to see her for was advice on divorce because SHE IS AN ATTORNEY HERSELF.

[@selinesbeau]

He's still wrong, she's just wrong too

[@that.ll_do_pig]

​​@@shirokusanagi3901no, it doesn't make it any better. *loss of trust, yes; all the rest? Absolutely not.

[@shirokusanagi3901]

@@that.ll_do_pig I said it'd make sense, I didn't say he's any better. All the adults in that story are pretty terrible.

[@ghislainedefeligonde5166]

I loved OP's list especially point 7! Can't agree more. The cat will not care, she does not understand what is happening around her, she is not a person!

[@platinumaether8198]

Esh, except daughter in a way. Op sucks cuz 1:she told an already mentally unwell 15 year old girl that her father cheating with her best friends mom. Op should never have told the daughter no matter how petty or spiteful she felt. 2: kissing another dude. I get being neglected and in the moment it felt good. Still shitty none the less. Husband sucks cuz he’s not respecting ops pretty reasonable boundaries and is doubling down.

[@Nyanx4]

Oh my gosh, I adore these new portraits! They're wonderfully expressive.

[@samantharoggelin1467]

Story 1: I’m sorry I hate everyone in story one. I’m sorry, but I feel like OP originally brought the kids into this to spite her ex. And I feel like this husband is just as guilty because he’s hanging out around someone that he had an affair with. I might be a little biased with it because when it comes to affairs with me, I am 100% a NO NO, and there is no coming back from this relationship. If you cheat, I might excuse it if it’s alcohol or drug ridden because you could’ve been assaulted or you really could not control your body in that instance and you really did not know what happened. And I feel like Sophie has no business meddling in this relationship.. it’s really not any of her business essentially. I’m gonna be honest. ESH but the kids because the kids are the real victims in this because they got brought into this. Everyone else just sucks to me. And I’m sorry, but regardless of if you felt those feelings anymore, or if you don’t, I still would not be comfortable. If you still were friends with the affair partner, you originally had the affair with. Point blank. So everyone sucks here.

[@motheroftears25]

Exactly I feel sorry for the kids

[@amandasunshine2]

Honestly it seemed like OP was just answering her step daughter's questions. She didn't want to lie. Should she have said "I can't tell you" or "I'll tell you when you're older" or something else? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no. Ella needed the real reason because she was insecure. Any attempt at avoiding the question would be a confirmation of that insecurity. Then she kept asking questions and OP kept answering them. OP was put in an extremely difficult position and everyone is blaming her for choosing one of the only options she had, all of which were bad options. She'll be judged regardless of what she does, because of other people's actions.

[@RJLiams]

@@amandasunshine2 Except she left out the part about her cheating on her father. Which was his reason why they were getting divorced. If she truly wanted to answer the daughter's question she would have mentioned that very important detail. She "answered it" in a way that made the dad and his mistress look like the bad guys and her the saint.

[@amandasunshine2]

@@RJLiams except that wasn't really his reason. It was his attempt to swing things to his favor. It was the reason they went into therapy. He wouldn't say he didn't consider it cheating and then divorce his wife for cheating. That's him telling us it was always just an excuse to get away with his cheating with Sophie.

[@GMAMEC]

@@RJLiams yeah, the kiss was a factor. However, it appears that the husband used it to justify his “relationship “ with Sophie. He is a jerk.

[@j0vandeven]

“Ain’t going to give two shiney shits” 🤣😂🤣 couldn’t word my thoughts better. The cat Simba sounds like my little fur psychopath

[@DarkAngel65989]

Mark, I love the new arts, wasn't expecting it and gave me a laugh and smile.😂😁

[@culixstar]

personally i wouldn't be ok with my S.O. continually seeing their old cheating partner for "advice". more so without letting me know anything or at the very least having me tag along for one of these advice secessions . there's no secrets in a marriage right? setting back on the couch when them coming in the door, hearing they just came back from their EX's house but can't talk about what happened, completely shutting me out....repeatedly??? nope, no, no thank you.

[@imjustafangirl6468]

I'm not sure if anyone else got these vibes from the first story BUT, to me at least it was worded in a way to imply that the reason why they were in counseling was purely because of Jack's friendship with Sophie. Not what OP did; she didn't even say the real reason why they went into counseling was because of HER. Op says she just kissed someone else, but seeing how she kept such a big bit of context in the first post I'm not sure if she's telling the truth. I'm NOT saying Jack is in the right btw, I'm just saying OP is acting a bit suspicious here

[@crawdaddy2004]

Our cats get super depressed when we’re gone for any extended length of time (e.g., a long weekend away).

[@MangaGirl232]

Aww! Love the new art! 😊 Hope everyone has a lovely weekend 💙

[@MarkNarrations]

Aww love it when people notice haha :)

[@greatshax68]

Look at lil Poppy's cute paws 💜💜

[@errantwinds-up8uu]

We love Poppy!!

[@notajetplane]

Story 2- she shouldn't just leave for the weekend, but leave him forever.

[@franciebelcher4594]

Sopie actually said OPs concerns "are not her fault"?! Seriously! Sophie and husband are disgusting. Omg, OP, NTA, and I believe you will have a much better life without ur husband.

[@calebhoffman6368]

Uhhh listen to the whole thing if you don’t think OP is an idiot as well.

[@clownrat5759]

@@calebhoffman6368op is a moron, but her ex husband is far worse

[@Donzo5711]

@@calebhoffman6368 besides the kiss, which is wrong, she is absolutely nta

[@pippo17173]

Umm you should of listen to the whole thing because everyone is horrible.

[@audreym3908]

​@@pippo17173except the kids

[@faeriefire78]

Story 2 has me commenting again, because woah. Cherry on top of this is the ex lives with his mother, so he definitely has contact with her, and he essentially kicked OP out for putting up resistance for this "cat visit" charade. Yeah, it's over.

[@lilliodhe5enraptured]

Love the new art, it had me laughing! That first OP went from 0 to Evil Stepmother in about .2 seconds. Holy Moly indeed.🤣

[@lilfairykiki122]

Wait so did Ella’s dad cheat on her mom with her best friends daughter? Thats absolutely disgusting, poor kid. Also Ella deserves to know the truth of her bio parents divorce, the fact they hid it from her and continued to bring Sophie around is disgusting.

[@carolscott9330]

bf wants his EX to stay at your house to visit the Cat? lol wow. lady run while you can. say yes dear I will move out. and do so. but never go back. those two are still tied together with her ?watching? his mom.

[@tsynadum-ay4792]

Jack's disgusting... Had an old affair with a 19yr old. Breaking his family but still "friends" w/ the said affair person. Can't he see that he's the problem? What a delusional man. OP's better off with those homewreckers & their trinwrecked families.

[@SehruhFihshur]

LOVE the new animations, Mark!! Much love👏

[@jessikajane4967]

Story 1: ESH - there's too much betrayal and deceit from Sophie and Jack for any of this to be worth it. Story 2: Her fiancé wants to sleep with his ex-wife. She just needs to cut off the whole relationship and grant him the freedom he desires.

[@bhart3321]

I can't feel too much sympathy for OP since she knowingly married a man that was not only still in contact but very close with his AP. That's on her. She can't claim to be understanding while simultaneously being suspicious. Either she trusts him or she doesn't. If she doesn't then she needs to move out & move on with someone that's not a known cheater. Bottomline she put herself in this position by being with someone that was a known cheater that is still close with the AP. Edit: So she's a cheater too. Not to the same extent but wow all three of them suck & have little hope for daughters not repeating this behavior in future. Probably hear from one or both of the daughters struggling to justify their own infidelity in the future.

[@bautistalover]

Exactly my thoughts. OP did this to herself by marrying him when she obviously was never okay with his friendship to begin with.

[@thotimusprimeofficial273]

that 1st story is wild. bro had an affair with a 19 year old!!!! all credibility for him relationship wise is out the window forever.

[@kellyrandolph3254]

Mark, love your new graphics with Poppy, and you with the bulging eyes looking at a phone! Very creative.

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

Story 1: Honestly neither of these people sound like a prize.

[@madambutterfly1997]

There’s a difference between going to your sibling for relationship advice, and going to your former affair partner for relationship advice. The fact that they’re in a room alone together how do you know this isn’t some sexual rendezvous with a romantic liaison?

[@jamestomlin5525]

There's also a difference in cheating in your current relationship like she did and bringing up cheating he did in a past relationship

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@jamestomlin5525 well considering the affair partner is still in his right it’s completely valid to bring it up into the current relationship

[@alnova2438]

did you finish the story? this girl had cheated on her husband, kissing someone but "i was drunk, so she doesn't count"...she was projecting her mistakes onto her husband and the neighbor

[@madambutterfly1997]

@@alnova2438 he was going to his former affair partner to advice long before that happened. What right does he have to be upset? If you’re not a faithful person, what right did you have to be mad at having an unfaithful partner?

[@CouncilEstateRach]

No, he's emotionally cheating at least.

[@elizabethrhone5516]

1. If OP couldn’t get past an affair then she should have to BUT she needed to leave. She can’t force Husband to stop. The same for him, he can’t make her stop believing the things she does, he needed to leave. Now, OP was completely in the wrong bringing Sophie into this. OP kept saying that Sophie was asking… so she answered. No, OP vented to her step-daughter. A child should not have to carry the weight of that around, being angry at everyone and getting into a physical fight. She did not have the emotional or mental tools to accept that info. (Most adults don’t but we know we must regulate ourselves) If dad and bio mom didn’t tell their minor children the reasons for divorce… it’s NOT OP place to do so

[@diamcole]

Wait, they had an affair when she was NINETEEN? Um....

[@HellstreamGames]

Story 1. So hes 16 years older than her, and they have been friends since primary school?! And her letting him keep in contact with someone he previously cheated with is a serious lack of self respect

[@AndyyWithAY]

OMG!! My heart just exploded the new avi with Poppy is THE cutest thing I've seen. I just got done prepping the chicken and sauce. Lunch today will be a Korean Fried Chicken sandwich and curly fries.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Oooo yum

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

So what’s your address so we can come for lunch? 😉 😋

[@bautistalover]

That sounds amazing.

[@sandeesandwich2180]

S2: Cats can be sad about losing one of their humans, but this cat has not seen the ex for 1.5 years and has absolutely no idea that the ex is not coming over. Does the fiancé think the cat has been listening in to his phone conversations? Break up with him, OP, because this is every which way of weird.

[@madambutterfly1997]

You already know my testimony. I found it to be a huge red flag that you still want be friends with an ex partner. Citing your children being friends as an reason to keep her in your life is not a valid excuse

[@tuckersontim]

Amazing that her husband "isn't cheating" but refuses to cut off this person that he had an affair with in the past. That is shady AF.

[@telinhajp]

Good afternoon, Mark and Poppy! Wishing you both a fantastic Friday! ❤️🤗

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

You too m8🤗🤗💜💜

[@HobieInTheBox]

Cats do in fact get sad when you leave them alone for too long, they're actually very social creatures

[@TheScaletIbisNW]

I still can't blame op. If my husband was carrying on an emotional affair with a previous affair partner I wouldn't be comfortable either. Im also really torn about dragging the kids into it. I fear that op would be the bad guy otherwise even if she said "my father and I have our own issues we tried eo work through. But this is not your fault." I wouldn't feel comfortable in that marriage because my boundaries would never be respected

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

I’m of the belief that OP said those things because he said he wanted a divorce, so what does it matter if I really implode everything around me. She’s hurt that he put Sophie ahead of everything in their short marriage, including discussions he should have had with her and not Sophie, so she told his daughter it was Sophie’s fault and she thought they were having an affair. I didn’t agree either with dragging the daughter into their mess. She should have been the bigger person and left with her head held high!

[@samiulhuda4001]

@@stirrednotshaken4823 she is the one who cheated. ya i am not discussing that with the cheater because its pointless. when someone cheats esp in a marriage the main thing to work out is do you dump them and thats not a conversation you have with the cheater.

[@bautistalover]

Why are you victimizing OP. She married him knowing about the friendship. The time to have an issue is before to get married not after and let that cause the downfall in the the marriage. This is on OP, she clearly was never comfortable with the friendship and either lied to herself or the both of them about being okay with the friendship.

[@kristinicole2055]

Lmao I loved hearing about Simba 😂 I used to have a Simba Kitty, he was a cream Manx, and he was a super loving cat, he had separation anxiety. He was actually sad when we’d go on vacations 🥴

[@AlphaMakuko]

ESH including the the sd, yeah OP deflected on the reason for the divorce (hiding her affair), but everything that OP told the sd was true and part of the reason for the divorce, so, yeah, ESH in my opnion, OP for the kiss (to me is cheating) and maniputaling the narrative, Jack for the relantionship with ex-affair partner (once a cheater always a cheater, lack of character, and the 16 years diference with the ex-affair (kinda creeppy)), Sofia for affair in past (same as Jack on the "once a cheater, always a cheater" lack of character) and keep the relationship on the present, and the SD for asking the reason for the divorce (it was not her place to ask, specially if she didnt want to hear the answer) and cus she unfairly judge severely OP and apparently easly forgiving her father and Sofia (maybe).

[@stirrednotshaken4823]

Geez, I can agree that the kiss was wrong, but sure wouldn’t call one kiss an affair. I agree everybody sucks in this one, but husband and Sophie are definitely having something, even if emotional affair relying on each other for comfort and “advice”. How many people do you know that were previous partners that live next door to each other? I don’t know of any and most people don’t want to see their ex’s on a daily basis.

[@paulchaudoir190]

Story two: I believe OP's fiance was planning on spending some quality time with his ex. And now she ruined it. They were just using the cat as an excuse to get together.

[@rclark8688]

Story 1: I feel bad for Sophie. It feels like her life has been held captive by this older man who decided to have an affair with her when he was almost twice her age, let her be isolated, and now probably the only one she can turn to after her husband has passed. This man literally has had a hold over her entire adult life, she needs to see that and move on.

[@dirkstrider657]

14:19 He's only had one cat live over 1 year? So he's a bad cat owner as well. One cat passing away that young is a fluke. Multiple is a concerning pattern.

[@Grace_x68]

S1 I actually feel very sorry for OP. Her husband didn't come clean before he married her (about the affair) . I would also be insecure if my "juvenile" neighbour banged my hubby and is the reason for his divorce but he still see her. He's lying. OP is way better of without him.

[@audreym3908]

It's ESH considering OP also cheated and told the kids the truth of what happened in their father's past, which wasn't on her to say at all.

[@9999plato]

@@audreym3908 Never involve children in adult affairs. She had to know that she would injure both of the daughters with that spiteful act but that is the sort of person that she is.

[@bautistalover]

You couldn’t have possibly have listened to the story. OP admitted in the second update she know long before she married him about the affair and his friendship with Sophie. She’s not the victim here her step daughter is.

[@iononcantomascrivo]

Loving the new art. The animated Poppy is adorable.

[@CouncilEstateRach]

He is still emotionally cheating uf he runs to sophie at every row or problem, if the hubby cant see that that is a huge issue then yr easting yr time. He can say till hes blue in the face hes not cheated but he hasnt been emotionally faithful to op for many years, hiws a woman supposed to feel if her husband is confiding in another woman, its worse than sex to most women. Im nit saying op is innocent either but i guess its the chicken and egg situation, who effed up first? Who cares, just split as amicably as you can.

[@ItsYaBoiV]

Man, that first story was wild. It sounds like OP got nakkered and kissed that other guy because she was already upset then about her husband still being friends with the AP, but that doesn't excuse the cheating. I personally don't think you can weigh cheating against an affair, both involve betraying your partner, but I find it very amusing that a man who had an affair got so butthurt over his wife drunkenly smooching someone that he nuked the whole marriage. Pot calling kettle, tbh.