I Thought My Ex Abandoned Me Whilst Pregnant But I Just Found Out The Real Truth r/Relationships

[@Russman67]

This story is very soap opera like. Patrick was so obsessed with David that he screened her communications for weeks. She left for France to study with a baby on the way. And what parent wouldn't cuss David out for getting their girl pregnant and going on his merry way over almost FIVE Years. It just seems to have a lot of gaps that don't line up.

[@Swnsasy]

Yea this is ridiculous.. She didn't call his parents? Her dad wanted to go to his parents and she said no. This is fake to me.. If it's real, she's a horrible child like adult... She sent one email.. Give me a break.. Call his parents so he could have been in his daughters life... This is all on her

[@shells500tutubo]

Well, the only thing making me hesitate to judge is that Op is not from the US, Canada or the UK, or even Europe for that matter. We don't know what the social norms are where she is from and the repercussions of single parenthood, blah, blah. But the commenter trying to put this all on Op must be Patrick or a friend of his. This wasn't on Op even 50%. I noticed that David never attempted to contact her while she was in France for four years.

[@Swnsasy]

@@shells500tutubo Yes he did.. He called her parents, tried to talk to her mom and the grocery and then he went to their home and knocked on the door but they didn't answer.. You missed that part?

[@VivPhotography]

@@Swnsasy I agree - I think this story is fake. I ended up skipping through most of it because it was just so long and kept going off track, but what I did listen to sounded more like a novel than real life.

[@Midnight0Mistress]

​@@SwnsasyI agree. Listening to this story is frustrating and beyond stupid.

[@glitchyglitchy3925]

Has OP considered a career in writing Hallmark movies?

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

Hopefully not because this was awful to listen to 🤣

[@SutapaBhattacharyaKolkata]

Maybe this is a Hallmark reject.

[@kronos0316]

Well, she's real good at playing the victim.

[@Hiimreggie]

​@@TheKnightofAwesomenessyeah hallmark

[@susankaempfer8427]

Are all Hallmark movies this longwinded?

[@CorgiNub]

I sincerely hope this is fake because it's just depressingly irresponsible otherwise. "I didn't want to go to his parents and tell them"--so you like his mother so much, but you don't think she deserves to know her grandchild? That just doesn't make sense, and if it's true, it's needless cruelty because of 'stubbornness and pride'. I also have a hard time believing her parents would never stop and think "Hey, this is ridiculous" regardless of the begging and tell his parents.

[@SirNomad]

Oh, I've seen women do this kind of crazy in real life. OP is awful.

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

Dude she was barely into adulthood. Why do you expect her to act like a 50 year old with life experience??

[@Rukiah1]

@@lovelysakurapetalsyt because there were people around her that she supposedly respected and listened to the advice of that did have that life experience?

[@mindyschocolate]

It’s a fake story. OP is trying to be a writer.

[@mindyschocolate]

@@lovelysakurapetalsytshe was nearly in her mid 20’s. My mom had me at 23 too and didn’t act like this.

[@Ospyro3em]

Not sure about this one. Why didn't OP leave messages with David's mother? I don't buy her excuse for that- if she really wanted David to know, she would have tried all avenues of communication. I know things like this do happen in real life, but this seems more like a script for a bad romance movie.

[@saratronus]

Girl went to his apartment called texted left emails the only thing she didn't do was scream it from the roof top until everyone he knowed because. There's such a thing as privacy. And she explained it she don't want him to be forced to be a father Because that would hurt her on the child which yeah it does. There's literally nothing more. She could have done except give up on her education for this guy which is always a red flag when a guy wants you to give up an education. Like that's the thing that I don't think people understand he did not want her to leave. He chose to cut contact only after that did his brother delete everything. That's the thing that bothers me. Like there's nothing wrong with long distance. Like the whole look of the issue was he just wanted her to stay in the small town.

[@jedimasters1462]

​@@saratronusShe could have called him even once while she was in France, instead of pretending that he never existed. Even at the end she's making excuses to keep herself the victim. Part of me actually wonders if the only reason she is letting David see the daughter is because his brother knows and can possibly make her life a living h*ll if she kept David away. After all, she was hesitant about David meeting their daughter first and is still not trusting him despite him providing evidence of his innocence.

[@slipherthevic3910]

Y’all there?

[@mamakitty6549]

I agree. She had so many other ways to tell him.... But chose the "he didn't answer his phone so he doesn't want a baby that I don't even know for sure that he knows about". Ridiculously stupid for someone her age.

[@VesnaVK]

She tried for a whole week! During which he was out of town.

[@samoanjoseph1457]

"he has Facebook and I don't". So GET IT! This shouldn't have been so hard if she had ever stopped to be logical, and she should have been with a child to take care of alone. Their parents were vital in this story as none of them moved away, but OP conditioned her parents to refuse all contact with David's family. This man didn't abandon anyone, he was practically exiled.

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@WardNightstone]

yea how the hell her parents and Davids never talked is the unbelievable part

[@kaneki18-d1t4]

You've never been pregnant before 😅

[@Furzkampfbomber]

@@kaneki18-d1t4 As if that is an excuse for everything. And you know what the interesting thing about pregnancy is? It actually _ends_ at some point. FFS, this woman had _4.5 years_ after that pregnancy to set something in motion, but nope...

[@kaneki18-d1t4]

@Furzkampfbomber It was his choice to leave so he doesn't even have the right to know about his child

[@jbgage147]

In chapter 8: OP writes how she could write a novel about her feelings during that time period. Very meta.

[@TheSergio1021]

The "I can go to France and study LITERATURE" was the punchline to this joke of a story

[@veezopolis]

In the same update she claimed that she sent him countless texts and emails, but also one email only that his brother deleted. And then also one time she called.

[@veezopolis]

This person doesn't live in a small town.

[@kkcuzz]

She never told the parents. Before she left you know she didn't let the other pair of grandparents know.

[@VidWatcher01]

Are you Patrick the brother because you here in the comments big mad!😂😂😂

[@grungekitty77]

She said she called and texted countless times, but she said there was only one email as a last attempt.

[@mogulmade]

Story 1: You wrote an email about the baby and called while he was on a road trip... but traveled and changed your number? The town was so small but you couldn't go see his mother who was so great? I call b.s.

[@celiakusmus]

Yups. Its either a very intresting made up story, or that girl is an idiot.

[@ellorasg4525]

I was gonna comment the same thing lol

[@ashassassin]

They had broken up. She rightfully assumed he wanted nothing to do with her anymore. What is wrong with you people? Get some empathy!

[@ellorasg4525]

@@ashassassin and yet she expected HIM to contact her? Where is the common sense here?

[@veezopolis]

@@ashassassin she HAD A FUCKING KID. It's up to HER to contact him about his child.

[@bluemoonslightASMR]

I normally don’t skip through stories but this one was long winded and read more like a English assignment for a university class. I think this one is more along the lines of fiction and OP just needed an audience for their assignment before submission.

[@politereminder6284]

Yup

[@jonathanbrown7250]

"five years and a baby, but I'll just shoot a few texts, drop an email, then call it a day. No need to talk to him, or get him on the phone or anything. Then I'll just completely forgive myself, when I knew everything, but have a hard time forgiving the guy who didn't know anything" Immature AF.

[@KvDenko]

And I'll contemplate allowing him to meet his own kid when he does find out

[@shaynethegmann]

People in the comments also acting like not wanting a long distance relationship is a ridiculous thing guy set up reasonable boundaries for a relationship and that was that it's crazy to me how many people are like "she texted and emailed and did everything she could" and "he shouldn't have broken up with her for that"

[@jonathanbrown7250]

@@KvDenko "I"m the one who jumped to conclusions, phoned it in, and cost our child 4 years with her father. But I'm the moral superior here" OP continuing on her path of Immature AF. Not that Patrick's a hero in this, but I'm starting to guess his reasons for wanting to get David apart from OP weren't all that bad.

[@nursebee-vomit5058]

@@jonathanbrown7250 She also acts like having a baby wasn't a choice. She was in control of her life this whole time. At first I admired her foresight to know she would resent David if she put him above living her own life. As the story went on it became evident she's was basically a dumb kid who couldn't even figure out basic contraception. David is no better in my view.

[@SakuraMoonflower]

She was literally like 20 or 22 years old. She was pregnant, post break up, about to leave the only country she's ever known, and her prefrontal cortex hadn't developed yet. Cut her a little slack. Although, it is clear she let her pride get in the way and she owns some of the responsibility for the failure to communicate.

[@Fazzel]

So OP never bothered to contact David's parents and have David's parent let David know? Or at least let David's parents know they had a grandchild?

[@Zowiezo101]

I was thinking she could've left a letter with Davids roommates or something. And ask them to give it to David once he was back from his trip

[@pinklemonade8320]

OP told them not to

[@nkoistrash]

Why would she? To her it seemed he legit wanted nothing to do with her and that also could have flipped and ended super badly too. If the grandparents went crazy and demanded grandparents' right (even if david didn't want the kid), it could have created a huge mess.

[@Gomeshiro]

@@nkoistrash OP clearly stated more than one time how great David mom was and that she liked his mom yet she choose to never let her know she has a grandkid Everysingle problem Patrick caused could have been solved if OP let her parents contact David's parents the comment about OP not understanding how she was partially to blame for this situation was on point

[@9999plato]

@@Gomeshiro But if she had made thjat common sense act then she would not be able to write this epic tale that coiuld be a tew part TV movie. She said she went to France to study writing. Since when does Reddit allow posts this long? I call BS.

[@brittanywhite6715]

7 minutes in and I’m still waiting on OP to get to the actual issue😂

[@Choachno3]

Considering that she says English isn't her first language, she sure is dramatic, flowery and verbose.

[@HaliaStone]

@@Choachno3 I noticed that too.

[@dianedupree-dempsey2402]

It’s a very wordy story, isn’t it. The entire story being repeated in the update was a lot.

[@promisedmysun6044]

Had to skip several times through the story because she would. Simply. Not. Get. To. The. Point. - agreed, this story is fake af

[@rokuth]

Well, considering what her major was, even if English isn't he 1st language, I wouldn't expect anything less than a fully descriptive, and emotional narrative.

[@HB-C_U_L8R]

David needs to lawyer up, get his name on the birth certificate, and get a custody agreement. OP sent one email and when she didn't get a response for that not only didn't try to communicate further, she went out of her way to make sure no one else wouldn't tell him either. Her entire story is, "No of this is my fault. Everyone look how strong I am and feel sorry for me." OP has demonstrated that she cares more about her wants than the child's needs.

[@leighnisbett9691]

Op sent multiple texts and called him more than once during the week after she found out she was pregnant and his brother deleted all communication between them ,so the brother is the one responsible for David never knowing he was going to be a father .

[@HB-C_U_L8R]

@@leighnisbett9691 She sent 1 email telling him she was pregnant, stopped anyone else from contacting him or his family, went radio silent, and then left the country. One call, one text, or a follow-up email and her daughter would not have lost her father for four years. Instead OP decided to go to France to pursue her dreams without another word.

[@tatkkyo9911]

​@@leighnisbett9691the email was the only one that said she was pregnant according to op. Also emails get put to spam all the time or junk. It's a very ineffective way to notify someone of something they aren't expecting. And you don't go looking for emails you don't know exist.

[@HomethaSick]

This whole situation could have been avoided if she just went after him for child support. Who cares if you have money? What if something happens to you and you can't work anymore. That child support isn't your money, it's your child's money. You could save it for her future education.

[@ponykazy3725]

OP really said "I did all I could, I tried texting, calling and emailing him while he was on a road trip 😢 there was no way I could reach him!" While also saying later "it's a small town we were bound to run into each other eventually." Bro! 😤 Edit: also like yeah she went abroad or whatever, but she could have had friends/family/lawyers for child support contact him. Ugh, this story just sucks and sounds fake, but ranting about it is fun lmao

[@FancySpicyTuna]

@@ponykazy3725 “I did almost nothing and I have no idea what more I can do. 😢”

[@trout512]

@@ponykazy3725Yeah, like, she couldn't have given his roommate a post-it note saying "I'm pregnant, it's yours, I'm willing to take a paternity test"? Even if they weren't close I'm sure he'd have handed over a letter...

[@robertx8020]

Or you just read the FFF story and realize OP was in France and yes, she might run into him when she came home to visit ..sooner or later But he..just blamne the woman! Forgetting that ,,her ex refused to pick up the phone and did nothing to reach OP Her BIL manipulating her ex and treating her like crap Just ignore it all and only blame the 'woman' Right

[@gavinhemmerlein1241]

@@robertx8020 she changed her number.

[@allthestarsthatshine]

So... were there no phones in France? I would have kept calling and definitely contacted his parents until hearing a real answer from David himself. OP definitely made a huge assumption because he didn't see an email. Sad for her kid to miss out on knowing her father for 4 years.

[@heatherdickau5335]

Her pride was part of the issue. She needs to see this and accept her culpability. She had options. One was to leave a letter at his apartment, tell his mother, or just not leave until she saw him in person. Personally knowing how hateful the brother was I would have been Suspicious that something was wrong. She could have left a letter with her parents to give him.

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@asterismos5451]

You're correct but I think even I would see leaving an email as accomplishing the same thing. And like if you've already left a letter over email why bother leaving a physical letter too? I wouldn't anticipate interception so covering multiple bases like that wouldn't occur to me.

[@SherriLyle80s]

Yep. But she "didn't want to contact his parents." How selfish. That poor child had no father for 4 years and he didn't know he had a child.

[@heatherdickau5335]

@asterismos5451 she knew the brother hated her. She knew he took him on a road trip. She should have realized the brother would do everything possible to get rid of her. She should have contacted the mother and told her about the baby. It is her grandchild. The grandmother could have been a part of the childs life even from a distance. OP was too prideful. It was easier to do nothing.

[@heatherdickau5335]

@80sGamerLady and no Grandmother. The OP deprived the childs paternal grandparents from knowing.

[@ericaallisonc]

Story 1. "Sorry, If my spelling and grammar is off, im FrAnTiC." *Rights a whole ass romance novel.*

[@AngelaMerici12]

😆 🤣 🤣

[@sam2x13]

So her pride and ego would not allow her to contact David's parents either? So not only has David not seen his own daughter for 4 years his parents have not seen their granddaughter for 4 years all because OP has an ego problem.

[@Rogue-bt4wp]

I wouldn't want my child around a racist/homophobic/ misogynistic piece of human excrement. That is her daughter and she has every right to keep her child safe from such shit ppl. And it seems like David is the opposite of his poor excuse for a father..I can only imagine that David would not want such trash near his daughter either.

[@25Erix]

You expect WAY too much from a 22-year-old. And when you're in a trainwreck like this, you're not going to act rational either. The naivety of people who say things like they're that simple. If it had been me, I'd clam up too. Because I'm a fucking wuss at 35. That's a personality flaw of mine.

[@themandownthehall]

Exactly. All the simps and women in these comments defending her are pathetic. She controlled every aspect of whether or not that man knew his child and those parents knew their grandchild. And she refused to do so because her ego was bruised

[@shadesofjade]

I wonder if, in that timeframe, David’s mother past away. I can completely understand not telling David’s father, but cannot understand not telling David’s mother.

[@shadesofjade]

@@themandownthehallI’m not simp-ing. I think op is pretty dumb.

[@mihalybalint8969]

OP did every action except the ones that would have a 100% success to get David to know about his daughter.

[@poopyouandme]

People don’t think clearly in situations like that. I had a surprise pregnancy and due to shock and worrying I didn’t handle it the best and didn’t communicate clearly due to the mix or emotions. Sometimes all logic and reasoning goes out the window lol. Also pregnancy makes you extremely emotional and hormonal which is why people say don’t make big decisions while pregnant or after birth cuz you aren’t thinking clearly. My son is 2 months old and a month after having him I realized how crazy I acted and how unreasonable I was.

[@veezopolis]

@@poopyouandme lmao all reason and logic went out the window for almost 5 full years?

[@WhitneyDahlin]

​@@poopyouandmeshe robbed a man of knowing his child and robbed his family of knowing their grandchild.. she is a selfish person for that. If she really wanted him to know she would have told his family at least..she was just being spiteful. She robbed her child of that connection. SHE left him first too! She was leaving him to go to France. She's a selfish person and those years she STOLE from her daughter and the father and the father's family can NEVER be gotten back. She's a terrible person. What kind of mother would do that? She is every man's worst nightmare.

[@samalvarez8776]

​@WhitneyDahlin what are you talking about? She didn't rob him, his brother did. She wasn't going to leave when she found out about the baby. Yes she is at fault too, but damn it's not just on her and she's not a monster. Relax.

[@AngelDeed]

​@@WhitneyDahlin still expecting women to give up their education and dreams for men and children in 2023, yikes... Also, the brother is clearly crazy and would've traumatised and endangered the child too.

[@jazminehollister3967]

Why did she not tell his parents? Especially if i couldn't get in touch with him I would have told them or at least mentioned that when 'David comes back please tell him that i have something very very important to tell him and to get back to me' and if he doesn't message back then, then i know he didn't want me or the child

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

Yeah, to many holes in her story

[@jazminehollister3967]

That update didn't make any better

[@vitterling]

Right? There was no way to know for sure messages and e-mails had ever reached him, but speaking to his family in person would have been a direct line to him. Her reasoning makes absolutely no sense, and I'm going to guess this story isn't actually real at all.

[@kkcuzz]

Exactly

[@jackchop1576]

What kind of baby trapping queen is she??! She could get 75% of his income if she played her cards right!! If he ended himself, the baby would get his inheritance and life insurance check! And nothing is better than a dead male! Get that bag, QUEEN!

[@ShadowDevotion]

This reeks just of Creative Writing. I refuse to believe that she was so stubborn and "proud", erasing everything and not to question the whole Situation. Then begging the Parents not to do ANYTHING, this must be fake.

[@Cocollyt]

Yeah there’s a lot of inconsistencies too. It sounds fake to me.

[@midnightblue1975]

How the heck could she study and raise her child in France by herself? What?

[@DeathclawJedi]

Agreed if this isn't a fiction I'll start dating a Fire Gecco. Note my user name is NOT a Furrsona just a name I think is cool cause I love Fallout and Star Wars.

[@midnightblue1975]

And pragmatically any sane person would have got in touch with David’s mother and let her know. Maybe a year or so in after the dust cleared.

[@fleurpouvior2967]

​@@midnightblue1975because French healthcare is better than american healthcare. Because france doesn't charge extra if the mom wants to hold her baby after giving birth. Because it is shockingly easy to give birth and navigate healthcare in other countries. Source: grew up international with most of my friends being born and spending the first several years of their lives in other countries, france included.

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

Story 1 sounds like someone trying to make a bad cheezy romance novel 😂

[@nondisclosure3920]

Airport paperback anyone?

[@SlugSage]

The trip to France exposed it.

[@AndyyWithAY]

When you're young like this and have an opportunity to travel for school or pleasure. I think you always need to take it. If a relationship can't survive that, it's probably not the right relationship.

[@impishrebel5969]

My LDR survived for 16 years. We're married now for almost ten.

[@shaynethegmann]

Lmfao that's ridiculous

[@erima4270]

EXACTLY. If your relationship falls apart when you can't see each other in person every day-- despite a myriad of other ways to keep in touch-- then your relationship isn't gonna make it anyway. Partners should be able to exist without being attached at the hip.

[@shaynethegmann]

@erima4270 my friend not everyone operates the same there's no set way for a relationship to operate and it shows how emotionally immature you are to think this way

[@gerardedison2001]

Closeness builds intimacy. It’s ridiculous for anyone to think you can have a relationship survive being apart for any length of time. She was abroad 4 YEARS!!! She had a choice and she chose studying abroad over her relationship. He knew the relationship wouldn’t survive long distance and that’s why he broke up with her.

[@TRPDK]

I'll take "Things that never happened" for 500 This whole post sounded like a cheap novel

[@dominicwehrmann8515]

AI written cheap story

[@hiro4344]

Yeah feels like it when she said there was stuff she left out or didn't communicate well, then proceeded to repeat a good chunk of what we already knew with no clarifications or anything.

[@HyliaFell]

@@hiro4344 If you use these weird little fleshy dangly things on the sides of your head to listen to the story, you'll hear mark say that the original post got removed and had to be recovered and OP had to re-tell part of it so people could understand the updates in the new post. Ears, btw. They're called ears. Use them.

[@jasonrollins1385]

​@@HyliaFellyou really want this hallmark novel to real don't you? Jeez

[@HyliaFell]

@@jasonrollins1385 More like I'm losing faith in people's cognitive abilities and lack of common sense. You have ears. You have eyes. You have at least a handful of braincells, give or take in some cases here. Use them.

[@angeleyesgreen1586]

Op owes David a huge apology for her mishandling of this whole situation

[@ChasehaWing]

This story may be fake but it was fun. I don't really goto reddit for authenticity. That said "I am stubborn and proud" is a funny line to include when half the story is her begging him to call/text. The not telling the grandparents. Her saying "I had a lot of money and survived being a single parent by working part time in a bookstore and that was affordable... c'mon. Why even tell us about the meadow in the beginning?

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Yeah, OP definitely Supersized our order of unnecessary details! At the end of the 38 minute long video my first thought was that she could've easily condensed her post and update while still keeping plenty of unnecessary details, resulting in the narration being at most 16 minutes. I feel like the TLDR would take at least ten minutes to slog through!

[@lily-zg6io]

I was expecting her to walk to that meadow and see David again and 'it felt just like the first time I saw him'

[@damien678]

The meadow part was cute

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@politereminder6284]

The meadow, the conception details. 😂😂😂 This is just really badly written fiction written in the 1st person

[@JO_Artificial]

Never advise one to give up on a good opportunity at academics ino order to keep a so called love story, many people have made that mistake and lived to regret it.

[@jjm152]

I like how most of the update is basically her trying to hand wave away all of the obvious holes in her made up story. GG.

[@ponykazy3725]

OP be like "omg guys this thing just happened, forgive me I'm still frazzled ok here it is * proceeds to type a novel and a half *."

[@GiordanDiodato]

Everything on the Internet is fake. I'm totally a robot

[@veezopolis]

She made several more holes in the story too lol

[@AngelaMerici12]

😆 🤣

[@AutumnFire1414]

@@veezopolis Right? Why didn't OP contact a lawyer to contact David? What b.s.

[@randomaccount-dq1jq]

She didnt go to the guys parents house to let them know they would be grandparents because of that bs cover story about why she stopped her father going over while he was on the road trip encase they had an emergency line ? He never would have abandoned her or the baby, yet he had his brother delete all her frantic text messages ? These two parts and other parts of the story really reeks of a like farming account creative writing project. 😂😂

[@GiordanDiodato]

So I can assume you're a bot?

[@PeacheIIe]

Your grammar is barely comprehensible

[@veezopolis]

This story doesn't need to be this long.

[@cb9825]

It is some sort of creative writing🙄no one writes about their real life events like this.

[@DrewLSsix]

​@cb9825 the fact that the boyfriend and her parents both lived in the same tiny town where you will absolutely run into each other, but they never said anything to eachother despite them sharing one very important person..... Yeah, this is a solid romcom/romantic drama script draft, not a real event.

[@mattiekarwin3667]

​@@cb9825 Yes they do. Granted, they probably shouldn't because it attracts people who's seemingly only motive in life is disproving shit for the sake of it, but **how** a reddit post is written tells you literally nothing. I used to take the 'and then my phone started blowing up' or the long dramatic sentences as a sign the stories were fake until the realized how flowery I wrote and got the flying monkies sent after me. If it feels too unreal, it's because it happening in your life would be unreal. Be thankful.

[@maggpiprime954]

@@mattiekarwin3667 Right? And how _dare_ a European university literature student not write in American Redditor Boilerplate? 🙄

[@Arex778]

@@mattiekarwin3667 There is an entire field of study about telling things about the personality of people through their writing style. You can tell a lot more about a person by how they write then you think and no one said that it seemed "too unreal" just that it seems "unrealistic" both seem like saying the same thing on the surface but the former implies that it is unthinkable or crazy while the latter implies that there are things out of place that causes it to not appear real. jumping strait "if it feels too unreal, it's because it happening in your life would be unreal. Be thankful." You are assuming just as much as you accuse the rest of the people you disagree with here.

[@AngelaMerici12]

Mark, don't misinterpret our comments. We love your story telling and voice! ☺️👍

[@ddphhh1236]

indeed

[@mercedeseales]

Mark and one other are the best reddit readers on yt the others' voices get on my nerves 😂

[@strange4202]

Yep

[@paranoiarpincess]

To add to this: at least I also don't mind if it's a fake story, it's still entertaining. You may have chosen to read the Trainwreck, but you weren't by any means, at the wheel lol.

[@messinalyle4030]

If David's dad really was just as bad as Patrick, then their mom wasn't so "wonderful" for having stayed married to him all this time and for always telling people to "just ignore him." Too many women that are generally thought of as "wonderful" just go around enabling the shitty men in their lives. This dynamic feels more typical of my grandparents' generation, but given OP's age, the mother is probably closer to my age (I'm 44).

[@shells500tutubo]

So many people would say she was a Boomer, so it is nice to see someone who realizes that time does not stand still, and the GRANDPARENTS in most of these stories aren't even Boomers, let alone the parents. It just goes to show you that the mother's behavior is passed down from generation to generation and is not stuck in a fabricated Boomer-Gen X-Millennial time warp.

[@politereminder6284]

They all sound fictional

[@samiulhuda4001]

to be fair OP sounds like a POS and can see why the brother and dad didnt like her

[@johnlastname8752]

This has to be fake or OP didn't want David to know for as long as possible and decided to blame everything on his brother.

[@tuxedopenguin8953]

Exactly! I'm starting to believe that Patrick was innocent in this and that OP was the villain the entire time. If this story is real (smells like BS, to be honest), I wanna hear Patrick's side of the story. Maybe he can give us a full play by play of what went down without adding all the fairytale BS.

[@carolinem.5044]

If she didn't want him to know, she could have simply never contacted them in the first place at all.

[@julianamendes8802]

All of this blaming the "evil" brother only to come to a conclusion 4 years later, that her "victim mentality" and fear of being rejected face to face is the whole reason she suffered alone, and that her daughter didn't have a father... So lame! 🙄 Also the way it's written sounds so much like fanfic is not even funny... Nice try buddy.

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@MisadventuresOfKim]

So she moved to France, had her baby and raised her for 4 years while studying and working part Time with no support system already in place? Okay 😅

[@antideception8160]

🙃🙃🙃

[@hojmatros5102]

It's actually possible to do in Europe. It's not a lavish lifestyle, but managable.

[@DBG-fh7io]

She had her parents did you not even listen?

[@amadddd0]

Lol tell me youre American without telling me youre American 🤣🤣

[@Steampunkkids]

@@amadddd0 As an American, this situation is completely fantasy. There is no way to attend uni, have a part-time job, and care for a child without family nearby. Since you obviously aren’t American, I’d love to know how this situation is tenable, please!

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

Honestly sounds to me like OP wanted to get back at her Ex. She tried to contact him, but not telling his parents that she was pregnant, changing her phone number, and not leaving a message with the roommate sounds like she had some resentment for the breakup and didn't want him to know.

[@CrimsonAngelWinges]

She sounds spineless. She didn't want to rock the boat with the ex's family so she helped his brother create the whole cluster fuck.

[@Ashbrash1998]

Why would she tell his crappy parents? His dad is trash and his mom is a doormat

[@leighnisbett9691]

Maybe Op wanted to tell the father of her unborn child at the time first before his family found out about the pregnancy .

[@brenscott5416]

Yup, this exactly. She had multiple options that should've been a no brainer to go for and yet she took the most obscure means of contacting him, one email (side note who the fuck thinks that's a way to contact anyone other than business) and understands he's not receiving calls or texts so she ensures she won't ever receive his. This is pure prettiness

[@mtimm9023]

I blame op. Her pride lead to this. It's a tradgedy of errors

[@nondisclosure3920]

It's a tragedy of bad fiction writing

[@mogulmade]

Story 1: Great effort at creative writing. "English isn't my first language..." righhhhhhht.

[@Allie-zv6tx]

Hahaha my thoughts exactly

[@Sanquinity]

Oh yea didn't even think about that. "English isn't my first language", proceeds to write a novel in better English than most native speakers.

[@lovelysakurapetalsyt]

​@@SanquinityThat's how it usually goes dude. Y'all are idiots if you think someone speaking a different language than their native language should speak a super broken version of it

[@piratsnygg]

But that's the only part that's believable tbh. In a lot of Northern European countries they write better English than people in English speaking countries, for example.

[@mogulmade]

@@piratsnygg As someone who teaches others English, it is almost impossible to grasp nuance like this so completely and still feel like you have to highlight you do not speak English well. Smh

[@christina1764]

I believe a lot of amateur writers use Reddit either to see if they write so well that it is credible or if they have become so good they can become professionals and this writer is in my my "ignorant" eyes good enough to become a co-author on one of those never ending soap series🤭

[@pelgervampireduck]

OP needs to add a love triangle "in France I met a rich guy that wanted to marry me, but deep down I was still in love with David" and sell it as a book or make a movie :D

[@9999plato]

@@pelgervampireduck No, David got into a gay relationship and realized that he wanted to become a female. He had begun his final transition to a female. His final bottom surgery was due the week after she came back. She had choices to make. Would her baby have two mommas? Could she stop the surgery and live with a very effeminate man who was broken by hormone treatments who just might be better looking than her? Could she live with another person who would use her cosmetics and hair care products?

[@mgen278]

OP is just loving her martyr status & she wouldn’t have it if she had been a responsible communicator from the start. Then basically retelling the entire story as part of the update was torture.

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@Redfoxa]

The job at a bookstore in france is the final proof that the story is fake A worker in a bookstore need to be fluent and know a lot a book to help custumers. And there aren't that much bookstore here, even less that need new worker and pretty sure the few that does pay pretty badly, so you wouldn't have a lot of money with a small child. And even more If you study, meaning you cant have a full time. So its bullshit

[@deadlynx5]

While i take most stories with a grain of salt i will say she wrote part time not full time which is a common american way of doing it, not sure elsewhere

[@Redfoxa]

@@deadlynx5 I'm french so that's why I said that. In the post she said her English isn't that good so she is for sure not american. In france having a part time job, studying and having a kid alone and being a foreign is just not possible

[@Melanie-jy2nw]

Honestly, I don’t think this story is real 😂

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Me neither 😂

[@gerardedison2001]

Agreed!

[@aricris372]

It's not, it's a twilight fanfic.

[@elizabethescalante8114]

Well, there's no proof that it's fake, so why bother saying that?

[@mattiekarwin3667]

Why? It's not even the craziest story Mark has read this **week** and some of those ones did have legit evidence. I obviously can't prove shit, but I've learned my lesson several times over calling lies on reddit posts ^^U

[@sugakookie7985]

Patrick seems like the type who would end the child to get his brother back they should go no contact with his family.

[@Wtfamidoing2970]

…I’m sorry the first post left out a lot of details because she was in a hurry to post it??? It was roughly 8 minutes before we even got to the actual reason why she was posting. 😂

[@antideception8160]

🤣🤣

[@Npyne]

Who knew a fake story would be this divisive lol

[@MizutamariVT]

I hate OP so much. Everything she did was the absolute wrong choice and in the end, she's still blamimg him and refusing to accept she's caused basically all of this. It's not that she made a mistake, it's that she still refuses to fix it

[@mayur619]

the update sounds like one of those i got pregnant by a billionaire/ prince/ don novels.

[@SgtPepper2411]

This seems like a second chance romance trope. OP was testing the audience’s reaction to the story to see if they could move forward with writing their book

[@AhamkaraMommy]

I keep seeing OP doing things because "He can't handle the truth", even with her meeting David again and finally telling him about his own daughter. Saying she still hates him in a way. Imagine being this dude, he did, literally nothing, at all. Edit: Also note how he keeps apologizing over and over and over for something he had absolutely no part in.

[@shells500tutubo]

So you believe he had absolutely no knowledge at all of those texts or the e-mail and never, in four years, tried to even send one communication to Op? He knew her parents, so knew how to get in touch with her. So many commenters keep trying to make this the woman's fault entirely (even though this is a fairytale story) when it is meant to be a drama of errors.

[@samiulhuda4001]

@@shells500tutubo him not reaching out to her after a breakup yes thats how it works.

[@coldsilverrain9896]

With her changing all her means of conract and demanding her family ignoring his existence, how could he have been contacting her?

[@vanzy01]

💯

[@AhamkaraMommy]

@@shells500tutubo Yes I do, what I'm not sure about is why you on the other hand have no doubts at all to the girl's responsibility.

[@itsjustmaddisen]

Yeah, this sounds like a Korean drama plot lol.

[@leroysgamesandmore2226]

If OP actually wanted to tell David about the baby she should have contacted his mom and dad no excuses

[@dotdotdot9024]

exactly... or go to paris late

[@kiraphobia222]

@@dotdotdot9024 She was going to paris for schooling, how or why would she have actually done that?

[@dotdotdot9024]

@@kiraphobia222 by not putting school first or or or or actually trying to contact him

[@brenscott5416]

Fucking exactly. She puts the entire blame on David and his brother and while they both have their negative roles here (the brother obviously worse than David) but in reality she's very much to blame as well

[@alexanderp_]

The brother in this story feels so incestuous, its really disgusting. Also OP messed up big time not contacting her ex after the trip.

[@Qyshawn]

I couldn't imagine the wave of emotions David was feeling nesr the end. For 4 YEARS you didn't know you had daughter and being allowed to finally meet her. God, so much joy/pain

[@ddavis8988]

Story 1: 1) OP did a terrible job of communicating this to the guy. 2) More than blaming her, I blame her parents even more. Why would they not address this with him or his parents. That's just weird, and I don't understand it. People have to get over their pride, their ego, and their arrogance and just deal with the issue at hand. Nobody was thinking about the child. Everybody was thinking about their feelings and what they wanted. Including the brother. The child was the afterthough in all of this.

[@hollyb.3472]

Story one, how about writing him a letter and leaving it at his parents?

[@kronos0316]

How about telling the parents. She fcked up but she needs to be the victim.

[@dscheaffer]

If this story is true, OP still isn’t taking responsibility for having denied her boyfriend, the right to be a father to their daughter, for the last 4 years. Additionally, the fact she’s refusing to tell their daughter, who her father is, is inexcusable and cowardly.

[@BadGirlCheatingStories]

This story has a soap opera-like quality to it. Patrick's intense obsession with David led him to monitor her communications for weeks. She eventually left for France to study while carrying a baby. It's understandable that any parent would be upset with David for getting their daughter pregnant and then disappearing for nearly five years. There appear to be significant gaps and inconsistencies in the narrative.

[@MaseOne]

This is a bs story …Couldn’t contact his parents? Your parents didn’t contact his parents? If true he belongs to his brother …leave him be

[@Shortypants1215]

EXACTLY!! I think this is a made up story. I have hard time thinking someone is SO FAR up their backside as this.

[@AhamkaraMommy]

Y'know... that goes both ways though doesn't it. SHE could have contacted HIS parents too if it was important, which I would say having a literal fuckin' child with someone IS.

[@leakrissa5467]

True! She was desperate? But not desperate enough to contact the mother!? Whom she's close to!? Mygoodness. I can't even with the over dramatic writing style.

[@davidnash8208]

This post needed a ruthless editor, there are way too many unnecessary words. David could go to court to gain access to his daughter, If true, the OP bears much of the blame and should have tried harder to find David. She is now being very sanctimonious and thinks she has a right to deny or allow Davd's access to his daughter, she might have a rude awakening.

[@leakrissa5467]

Add the part where she is emotionally wrecked and still went to France to give birth and raise the child alone. Eazy peezy that she went and got a part time job. 😂 So many plotholes I don't want to even think about it.

[@Daaaanielle]

This sounds like a hallmark film.

[@TheKnightofAwesomeness]

Right lol, the amount of holes and clichés in the story just kept making say yup definitely not real

[@MidnightL2008]

I have watched hallmark movies with better plots than this story

[@kyleanuar9090]

Probably rejected by production houses and ended up on Reddit.

[@MidnightL2008]

@@kyleanuar9090 most likely. Afterall it would probably cost a fortune to book a filming site to film a scene in a private area in the woods near a lake that “words can’t do justice to its beauty” 🤪

[@musetorn]

Given how hurt he was about you leaving, I can't see how you could believe he rejected you AND his baby until you'd seen him face-to-face and heard it from his own mouth.

[@neritique]

Happy Midsummer from Finland, Mark! Hope your Saturday is fantastic.

[@AngelaMerici12]

🎊🎉☺️🙏

[@asausel]

I'm confused by the story. The Ex didn't abandon her and her child, she abandoned him. She left him. She sent a text and an email? That's it. When a person is pregnant by someone they broke up with, sending a text and an email isn't enough. If there is no response then you have to find the person another way. Unless she actually talked to him, she's the villain in this story.

[@Sanquinity]

If the story is even true, that is. But if it is: Yea she keeps putting all the blame on "Patrick", but she only did the bare minimum to contact "David" herself. So sounds to me like she was hoping he wouldn't respond so she could live her romantic "studying abroad in France" dream.

[@AndreNDP]

She just...assumed the worst possible conclusion and refused to accept any other facts. Even made him apologize for no good reason.

[@spoopy132]

When you're young and you get the opportunity to study abroad, you should 100% take it!! She did not "abandon" him, he was a grown man and she wanted to stay in a relationship! HE broke up with HER and she did what she could to get in contact with him when she had no idea where he was. It wasnt A text and A email, she continually tried to get in touch with him for WEEKS before her trip. Granted, she could have gone to his parents but I also understand not wanting to drag them in when you believe that you're being ignored by the father of your child after a rough breakup. She's no villain, she was a kid who's boyfriend wanted her to choose between him and her future and was thown a very sudden curveball that would be tough to deal with at any age. She is not the bad guy for initially choosing her future, especially when she was prepared to cancel it completely had she been able to get in contact with him about her pregnancy. She believed she was being ignored after weeks of attempting to contact him so of COURSE she's gonna choose to leave her small town where everyone is gonna have some awareness and judgement of her private business, where there are constant reminders of the man she believed wanted nothing to do with her anymore. She definitely didn't handle things perfectly but calling her a VILLAIN is crazy.

[@twideslauriers7875]

what are you fucking talking about? she had an opportunity to study abroad and you dont GET opportunities like that every day. If the genders were reversed you accuse her of holding him back.

[@thepineapple8434]

She could have contacted his mum, send him a letter, tell the roommate to tell him… if you want to contact someone, you can. Even her parents could have contacted his parents.

[@Stuart267]

*Okay OP was 15 & her "Boyfriend" was 18! There's a register for those kind of men isn't there?*

[@tanyaespinozadelosmonteros8510]

Tbh the brother's attachment + homophobia reeks of "I'm in love with my own brother and repressing it " to the max

[@cpaul9269]

I'm really on the fence about whether the story is actually real or not, tbh..........the fact there is no further update actually leads me to believe it was fake. I guess I'm having a problem understanding why people wouldn't believe David's story....why the hell would he make that up?! just too much more doubt than I think there would be in real life. Also, going to another country alone pregnant?! who does that? Most would terminate or put the study abroad off fro a year while they - had a baby!! - as I type this I am more and more skeptical. but it was a good story - I'll give them that either way!

[@marahbaker8615]

Eh, I just treat all the stories like they're real since they're a form of entertainment and if we cry "fake" all the time, it takes some if the enjoyment out of it

[@cpaul9269]

@@marahbaker8615 Well two issues for me - 1. If it was on reddit and just narrated by the content provider, I get more annoyed, b/c many of us take alot of time to respond to people in crisis, genuinely trying to help. So when those are fake, it pisses me off the OP would do something like that, maybe preventing someone who actually needs help from getting it (we just acn't always respond to all of them). Stuff just thrown up on here and totally made up, for me, glaring holes in the story that don't make sense and it being so obviously fake and sloppily put together ruins any enjoyment - i don't mind if they're fake honestly, I just get annoyed when they are just totally ridiculous - an example - i watched a story where if you followed their timeline in the story, wife's pregnancy lasted 28 months. I guess i get kind of insulted? that they put so little effort into it and beg for clicks...I dunno. I realize I'm not in the norm on this....I'm an engineer......lol.

[@infinityalbi9840]

Another easy solution would've been to tell the roommate. He could've veen like "hey David, your ex-girlfriend came around. She said she's been texting and calling you like crazy and you haven't been answering. Whatever it was it seemed important."

[@SICProwl]

Sorry, but this is literally a plot of a Harlequinn Romance novel. Don't believe it for a second.

[@artemishallihan8973]

If real I think she didn't follow up and try harder to contact David because, and it's a real fear, she'd likely have to cancel her trip to France. He'd have tried that much harder to keep her home if he knew. Telling herself that David doesn't care about her pregnancy and cutting him out completely is a real easy way to simplify her decision to go. The story does feel fake though...but meh if it is. If I demanded reality I wouldn't be wasting time on the internet

[@mellowmallow4855]

That can be true.

[@Sanquinity]

If it is true indeed: That still makes her irresponsible and too immature at the very least. Like heck yea she'd have to stay home. She's pregnant. Carrying another living being. At that point life stops being about you and starts being about your child. That's what parenthood is. Can't go on your romantic "studying abroad in France" trip? Too fucking bad because you're going to be a mother soon.

[@nareegreel]

Why didn't she tell him via her parents after she was in France? If it's real, it's scary a group of people with such poor decision making skills will be raising a child

[@vanzy01]

Well she believed her own hype.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Ok, so. She told David only via one email that she was pregnant. After 1 week without answer she moves to France, changes her email address, phonenumber and cuts off everyone from hometown but her parents. She refuses to go for child support and forbids her parents from telling Davids parents. OP 4 years later: surprised Pikachu face when David finds out he has a kid he never knew about. Edit: This is the kind of plots you read in novels, I guess now on Reddit too.

[@sfsin3380]

She didn't change her email address just her number and that's normal. Some mobile phone companies in Europe won't support you long term in a different country. My sister had to get a new phone and change number 6 months after moving. Not saying the rest isn't suspicious but people keep call the number change out when it's not that strange.

[@Copernican]

​@@sfsin3380it's obvious a lot of people have never moved abroad. I did an exchange year in the Netherlands, only one year, closed my UK mobile account as the roaming costs were so high (early 2010s before the roaming legislation) got a dutch PAYG number while there then got a new UK number when I came back. Keeping the foreign number is pointless if you're moving for more than a few weeks/couple of months especially if it's contract and not PAYG, which I think a lot of US phones seem to be.

[@aengusdedanann181]

​@@sfsin3380ok said she changed her email in the video. She said only her parents, school, and job prospects knew the new email

[@tinayoung5948]

She is absolutely disgusting. She just assumed. It's HER fault. She knew how the brother was. She caused her own pain. She caused a father and daughter not to know each other for first few years. She better self reflect and admit what she did wrong. She ran like a scared, coward.

[@TheArmyOfGoats]

Story 1- has more plot holes than the Titan submersible

[@rivertam7827]

💀🤣

[@AngelaMerici12]

Brooooo!!! 💀 🤣

[@staysilent4392]

It Imploded. There ain't nothing to have a hole in.

[@DavidWiseFAN199]

TOO SOON!

[@TheArmyOfGoats]

@@DavidWiseFAN199 😆

[@Serene80]

OP was freaking stupid for not going to David's parents' house. Period. Whether she WANTED to go or not, she should have gone. They might have at least supported her, even if she thought he wouldn't...

[@daralic2255]

A single mother supporting herself and her daughter abroad and furthering her education…..with the only source of income from a bookstore. Unless France has the greatest wages and employee benefits in the world this story sounds fishy.

[@LovesGaming37]

Their college costs are extremely cheap. Most countries have cheap college costs

[@ceeshnia]

I got the feeling that her parents were helping/comes from money. She said “I have money. I even got a part time job at a bookstore”; so she had money, and then got supplemental income. Her college may have helped with living expenses (some do), and medical is cheaper there. So a combination. As for the story, I dunno.

[@dandotvid]

So, you're telling me that OP says they live in a small town and run into people all the time, yet in 4 YEARS, OP's parents NEVER ran into David or his parents? Riiiiight. Oh and surely after OP left, her father most certainly would have gone over to the parents' house.

[@antideception8160]

😜😜😜😜

[@ranmikisudia426]

Maybe some people respect their childs wish for privacy?

[@draconisdragonheart4248]

This story sounds like BS. Most Long distance relationships fall apart. David didn't support it and she tried to sell it to him. If David really wanted to keep in touch he could have contacted her parents. I can't see how parents would have lied to him. Also, why did she leave for 4 years not coming home for holidays?

[@hilaryc3203]

It's possible she didn't go home because of not wanting to face people with the baby and having it starting drama, and maybe her parents visited her? Lost of scenarios.

[@cpaul9269]

good call - yet another gaping hole in the story.....

[@annabethsmith-kingsley2079]

Tolerating an evil brother because your boyfriend “loves him” is unacceptable.

[@shaynethegmann]

So let me get this straight, he set a boundary that long distance is a relationship ender, you decided to go through with it, which is fine.. but then you find out youre pregnant and instead of doing the responsible thing and making 100% sure david knows, meeting him in person or going to his parents you decide fuck it and deprive him of four years of knowing his daughter, damage his reputation and potentially ruin any stable relationship he could have had with his daughter who will come to resent him at some point to some degree, youre at fault as much as his brother is, you could have gone to his mother who you say is a kind person you could have MADE SURE HE KNEW, but you didnt you decided the mother had no right to see her grandchild you decided he had no right to see his child all because you didnt even try

[@oh.s]

She tried to get in contact with him, she literally went to his apartment.

[@tomjones4521]

​@oh.s he was on a road trip. She didn't speak to his parents, didn't tell his roommate. She changed her number and didn't reach out on social media, like wtf. She's a horrible person. He set a boundary that he couldn't do ldr so she kept his child from him. Awful human being.

[@shaynethegmann]

@@oh.s she didn't even talk to the mother she claimed to like so much so fuck off with that she had a responsibility an obligation as a parent to ensure he knew and she didn't, this is as much her fault as it is the brothers

[@oh.s]

@@tomjones4521 Woah! It’s a stretch to call her a horrible person here. If anyone’s horrible here, it’s Patrick.

[@shaynethegmann]

@oh.s well by her own actions she stole four years of David being a father, it wouldn't be a stretch to call her a horrible person, Patrick is definitely the worst but she's an easy close second she could have left a message with the mother yet she determined that she wasn't worthy of being in her grandchilds life the grandfather and Patrick can fuck off but if you're going to sit there and claim the mother is a sweet and nice person and then just not tell her about her grandchild that's aweful objectively, and if she had gone to her none of the last 4 years would have gone the way they turned out Op is a victim of her own making just as much as she is a victim of Patrick's actions the only innocent party in all this is David all because he had the audacity to set personal relationship boundaries

[@theincrediblehunk2668]

"English is not my first language" *Proceeds to write the Twilight series*

[@dakotasan8719]

op strikes me as manipulative. He had made his boundary for the relationship and she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. The brother is an absolute AH but OP has some responsibility as well. All in all, I’d say the BF is the biggest victim here

[@monteme4691]

17:47 story 1 TLDR: Wanted to travel and have fun so I blew up my relationship, found out I was pregnant but refused anything beyond the the very bare minimum to contact the father, it’s his fault he didn’t help me with the baby he didn’t know about.

[@AryonaSamoto]

What a wild story. I hope OP, David and their daughter work everything out and grow into a beautiful family. I really hope Patrick takes this lesson and gets counselling for all his toxic behaviors. I also hope he doesn't do anything crazy. People who believe they have lost everything can do really crazy things. I hope we get an update in the future that OP, David and their daughter end up expecting another addition❤🤗. They sound like they were a lovely couple who were dealt a terrible hand but have the chance to create something even more beautiful. Thank you for sharing the story Mark😊

[@Fiero425]

OP was so in love she went away for 4 years with just an email and text messages to tell her tale. Another victim and idiot. ;-(

[@elyserhyne243]

Absolutely fake. - didn't tell the grandparents - didn't go to their family house - didn't try anything else in 4 years - changed all her contact info yet cries that he never tried to contact her - claims they're in a small town but somehow only just now sees him after being home a while - has a baby abroad and has the money to pay for all that while not covered under that country's healthcare and not from a well off family - says she hasn't seen him in 4 years (when she got pregnant) but the kid is also 4. So she gave birth immeidately? - overly detailed flowery language you don't use when describing your own lived situations - obviously written by a bot or teen that watches too much of the Hallmark movies.

[@spritepomegranate8913]

Their first meeting when she was all like “He smiled his boyish smile” or “he looked down shyly” like ok sure

[@leakrissa5467]

More to the list -was desperate but didn't contact the mother whom she claims she is close to -giving birth and raising a kid was so easy she needed to get a part time job -And oh! She's studying, too? Wow😂 - why iiiiiiis iiiiiit sooooo loooooooong? -unnecessary and repetitive details (I thought reddit has word limit?) -can't with the movie-like ending. So cliche -more plotholes but I don't wanna hear the story a second time. 😅

[@bangeryun94]

Interesting. This EXACT story appeared on a forum I frequented 5 years ago. A Korean forum. The difference of course were names and that her university in Seoul had, along with university in France, awarded her a scholarship to study literature and journalism. She took pieces of other forum members lives they had shared and had woven a story so incredible that it was mind boggling. She changed the details each time she discussed it.

[@252stardust]

It kind of sounds like to me that she didn’t want to push telling David because she was determined to study in France, even though she wrote a book to say otherwise. I agree with the comment about her not taking responsibility for her part. David is the one that suffered the consequences of both hers and the brothers actions but he’s the one having to prove himself. She should have tried harder to tell him but she chose not to and she had 4 years to do it.

[@ronprince1478]

How would she have reacted if it was him going overseas for a year or four to work and leaving her behind? She put her relationship second, she did that.

[@duskwinter1300]

Honestly OP seems like she was upset at her ex and didn't try that hard. Also I think a lot of the second half of the story could be summed up by the fact that OP didn't want to admit that she was wrong. Over all the brother is crazy and needs help.

[@kyriacarica5862]

Op’s way of writing reveals that she has: “I’M THE MAIN CHARACTER” syndrome. I had to skip it. I felt like all the world’s smallest violins came together to play for her while she was writing this. Sorry, Mark. You’re still a great narrator! 😂

[@AndyyWithAY]

OP is almost entirely in the wrong here. Patrick deleted the messages at first, but she changed her phone number and email and was in another country. How was he supposed to contact her. It seems like she tried to contact him that one week then didn't try at all. I think OP needed to tell David in person. She said herself some of the calls and messages didn't go through. You tell him in person, he still has ways to contact you, that's on him if he isn't in his child's life. But whatever she did was not her due diligence. 🙄 Patrick deserves some blame, but OP is trying to fully blame him. He shouldn't be in their lives, but OP dropped the ball here and needs to own it

[@TheArmyOfGoats]

Pretty sure it’s because the story is fake

[@itsjustmaddisen]

If this story is even real lol.

[@Batman-lg2zj]

Disagree she shouldn’t have to tell him in person if she gave him a week .

[@Batman-lg2zj]

@@TheArmyOfGoatsI don’t think the story is fake

[@PM-ov9sg]

Agreed it did even occur to her most people tend to block the other person number after a bad brake up.

[@greghamilton9505]

OP needs to accept responsibility for her communication. Her avoidance is what led to this

[@ninjastorm540]

Its interesting how the post about OP being to blame too hit the nail on the head. OPs update really clarifies how she had a major part to blame too in her daughter missing her dad for 4 years because of her pride, stubbornness and irrational decisions Like how: -She had other ways of contacting David (LIKE HIS PARENTS) but refused. -Her parents suggested many ways of her to get in contact with David even for just support but she refused. -She's been with David for so long and knew his character, but quickly just believed he would abandon her with no word of the man himself. -She lied about when her daughter was concieved and ghosted anyone who could have updated David. Patrick deserves the MAJORITY of the blame of course but OP's pride and stubbornness were to blame too. The only victims here were her child and David.

[@DmGray]

Almost certainly a fake story, but also one where the OP abandoned her bf to study, then effectively hid his child from him bc she was angry he ghosted her for a week. If a real person acted like that... they'd need to SERIOUSLY consider that "Patrick" isn't the only one who took 4 years of fatherhood away from a man.

[@cattyanamontes5724]

I spaced out during this story. OP just seems so unlikable. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@anonymousone9699]

People don’t seem to realize, when you get rejected, at the height of stress like a pregnancy, stalking people, blowing up their phones, emailing, when you have tried for months to communicate and you are blocked, you have to find a way to move on. Not everyone is comfortable with going to a partners parents/family for conflict resolution. For her, it was to cut off ties too. Blocking the bad memories. She didn’t even try to get legal help for child support, this is something I can totally see myself doing. Begging isn’t my forte, and moving on with life is more important, it’s impossible to do that if you don’t sweep the trauma under the carpet in whatever way possible. Also, wild that anyone is blaming her for bad communication on OP part. She blew up his phone, emails, stalked his house. That is ALOT of effort. Mind you, she didn’t know that he was willing to talk, she thought he was ignoring her as a crazy EX. Do you understand how traumatizing that is? How embarrassing and humiliating? All that while she was expecting! I’m shocked the pregnancy survived those first months. She is a hero. What still don’t know if I’d believe him after all the years, but I’d let him have visitation rights. Forget shared custody, forget friendship, he was too comfortable allowing his brother to “take over” for his emotional regulation after the break up. Even if she had not been pregnant and was just trying to have a closure conversation, he would have been a fucking coward for avoiding her like that. She wasn’t a bad girlfriend, she wasn’t breaking up with him for another man, she wanted to stay with him in fact, she just also wanted to do what is good for her life, but he wanted to hold her back. He sucks. He doesn’t know how to be a good person in conflict. He fled and allowed his brother to mess up his life. Fuck him. She sounds like she is missing this red clad all these years later. He may not have abandoned the child, but he sure abandoned her without looking back.

[@Mewse1203]

There's that one comment that says OP is also at fault. The problem is that they COMPLETELY disregarded a bunch of the story where Patrick cut David off from the world until she left...

[@Mgeeza]

Could have contact the BF's parents. Seems dumb. OP's excuse is she wasn't thinking straight at the time. She had 4 years.

[@cnow82]

Knowing how vindictive his brother is, why TF would she think email, text, & call are the best way to tell him she was pregnant?! It’s like she wanted to hurt him by not telling him he had a daughter. Which is F ed up. He has a right to be a part of his daughters life. He wasn’t abusive or anything that would warrant it. OP tries to be this hurt little victim. While she is just as wrong as the brother. I hope she pulls her head out of her ass. I hope she loves her daughter more than she wants to hurt David. She needs to act like a parent and adult now. She wants to doubt him because then, she would be TA and not David.

[@jackwatt8988]

"four years later I find out it's actually his brother's fault" - nope, the fault is 100% on OP.