Which to Learn First? Heavy Club or Mace

[@philstyles5384]

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[@xaq_01_02]

The basics to get really good at: Inside circles Outside circles Shield cast Inside pendulum Outside pendulum Pullover Alternating 180 pullover Mill Reverse mill

[@aquaphoenixx]

You da MVP in this video!

[@Bryan-gt8pf]

I just ordered a 10lb Mace. I’m good at these with a club. Is there a basics for mace? I’d like to eventually build into doing mace flow. Got any recommendations?

[@zachupton3647]

I have added that to my workout book. Thank you. I'm doing inside circles, outside circles, and sheildcasts for a year now with an Adex club and starting at 7.5 and wi

[@utubepunk]

Don't forget Swipe

[@willagnes8376]

I started with a 15lb Mace and a 25lb club (strictly 2 handed exercises) simultaneously in the summer. 100% spot on about going hard on the basics. Honestly get both. Both excellent training tools that vary your movements and get you stronger.

[@minigunsniper]

For kettlebells, one needs to get really good at the six basic movements (swing, clean, snatch, press, squat, TGU) to progress to more advanced kettlebell techniques. For clubs, would the exercises you mentioned (circles, shield cast, pendulum, pullover, alternating 180, mills) be the equivalent foundational movements to master?

[@morvarid73]

All the questions are answered! thanks! Just received my first club (4kg) doesn't look as cool as yours! It's thin!! But I'm EXCITED to learn all the skills :))

[@a.lame.username.]

I've got a couple of 2kg clubs and they are so thin they feel like hanging onto a pen!

[@SummerHuntington]

Love that point, that if you are really good at clubs, you can be good at mace. But it doesn't necessarily work the other way around... so true.

[@cheryls4526]

thank you.. Now to figure which manufacter.. I do not plan on getting an adex any time soon. I hope you will still make tutorials on use of a regular heavy weight club.

[@calebf.6806]

Damn my impatience. I was crushing inside/outside circles no problem with 15lbs decided to try mill no problem, but tweaked my elbow on a reverse mill... whelp that was dumb. These videos are still very informative and entertaining though! While I heal I'll continue to watch and program better as to not injure myself again. Thanks mark you've changed fitness for me man!

[@jimjohns5274]

It seems that the main methods of training on the channel are: kettlebell, heavy club, mace, hydro core, bodyweight, and slam balls. Is there a video where you lay out your thoughts on what each activity brings into a training program? My personal situation. I am in my 40s, have a sedentary job, and a young family. I don't have much free time to learn multiple activities to add into my fitness plan. I plan my workouts around my kettlebells (volume and density cycles) with the goal of lifestyle health (ie: able to play with my kids and age well). I am thinking of adding clubs or hydro core into my mix. I can see the benefit of getting into the lateral plane of motion. I realize there are ways to do this with a kettlebell, though this doesn't seem ideal (in your video you mentioned knee whacking because of the bell's shape as a possible problem). If you have a video about how you view the different trying tools, please point me at it. Apologies for the long description of my situation / question.

[@yazan80]

I got a clubbell last summer and ran the basics over and over. Unfortunatley I had no idea on how to meaningfully progress. Im really looking forward to the app or a vid on single arm clubbell nerdmath. As always thanks MW! You are truly the best.

[@tumblingrosesstudio]

My favorite exercise and health channel

[@tylerwilson6706]

I hope the app will have progressions for all three!

[@marabunta1980]

What's this app everyone's talking about?

[@GregStruminski]

@@marabunta1980 Mark is developing app with workouts

[@marabunta1980]

@@GregStruminski thanks.

[@ahmadelshbasy3222]

@@GregStruminski it’s name ?

[@Liam1991]

This video of you comparing clubs and maces, has given me an idea. Could you at some point do a video comparing kettlebells, clubs, maces, and Bulgarian bag/hydro core, and go through the pros and cons between each of them? Maybe throw in dumbbells/barbells as well.

[@MarkWildman]

Good idea

[@hawkeyescorner2559]

Mark I'm a huge fan of your channel and the philosophies you project. The wife and I are building a home gym with a lot of DIY projects, and we're wondering if you had a DIY 10-pound club bell that you trusted to not fly apart. Thanks!

[@HeroicSport]

Great tips as always, Mark! And since we make the Pahlavandle TG and XL by hand here in Denmark, no shortages of gear :-)

[@utubepunk]

The Pahlavandles are awesome!

[@ADEXClub]

I love the clubs to begin with

[@tnCEO2023]

Man thank you! I have been looking for a video like this. Your the only one I found that hits these questions. Thanks!

[@a.lame.username.]

Thank you!

[@emilymount6007]

Why are you so good to us Mark? Tell me!

[@zacht3516]

Jumped in with the Adex arc and working on inside and outside circles. As always great content, an actual youtube channel that helps me set my phone down and train.

[@ROSTAMACE]

Nice information ℹ️

[@richardmahoney3667]

VERY helpful! Thanks.

[@yetieddy3379]

Hi Mark, Is there a point of diminishing returns for kettlebells and clubbells? If so which weight is it best to stop, in your opinion?

[@bto330]

Why would there be if you can just keep adding time?

[@yetieddy3379]

@@bto330 true you’re not wrong but what about in terms of strength?

[@bto330]

@@yetieddy3379 i feel like you've gotta be freakishly strong if you're hitting a wall with kettlebells...how many get ups can you do with 32kg?

[@yetieddy3379]

@@bto330 if you held a gun to my head, I can do ten or more total reps both left and right. However, my goal is to “solidify the gains” as Pavel would say by gradually increasing the load after 3 weeks.

[@originalmacefit]

Thanks, Mark

[@randeldavisredforestchines7752]

Agreed if not fighting at least reliable self defense !!! Nice work Mark cool vid!

[@tynelson9003]

thanks for this

[@DuncanWoodJnr]

Mark, can we get some nerd math workout programs for clubs, please? Volume / TUT! Thank you for all you are doing.

[@pravinraj7420]

hello well, good video but I would love to add some pointers. First, do freehand exercises that will build endurance, after that some lightweight clubs to build joint flexibility. These steps are very important to build up strength!

[@kirkdacosta]

Can we get more vids on heavy club programming? Math videos, what makes a good 10/ 20 minute routine?

[@ramboppana]

Always insightful! Thanks Mark! Do you recommend heroic sport’s adjustable swing club handle(bottle holders) as a good starting equipment or should I try getting the mudgar that you are using in the video?

[@MarkWildman]

Mudgar

[@tbx59]

Mace was easier to get so started with that, ran 10# to 60mins, and I'm seeing lots of carry-over to club as I start working on that.

[@Reveng8]

As a guy who is starting out with a Indian club,what is the weight to start out with and how much weight do you add on each time until you can use a mace?

[@runningoffinstinct]

Where does the Arc fit into this? Is it best to progress Club>Arc>Mace? Or best economic input for maximum strength/conditioning output - Arc? Because it can be used as a hybrid Club/Mace?

[@orestisnalmpantis]

I am a beginner and I just bought a 15 pound club. Do I start with 2hand routines or 1 hand routines? Thanks !

[@Ben-fq4wp]

Also clubs take up less space.

[@jakeku2662]

When are the programs coming?

[@MarkWildman]

When the app company finishes. They’ve had all the stuff for months. Hopefully a working prototype this Friday

[@utubepunk]

@@MarkWildman uh oh

[@MarkWildman]

@@utubepunk yup

[@utubepunk]

@@MarkWildman Damage report?

[@MarkWildman]

@@utubepunk trying to start with 17 programs. they aren't quite understanding the ideas of gathering data and displaying it.

[@bodhic6199]

So the club math runs similar to KB more so than mace? I have 15,20,25 clubs.

[@richardkuhlmann7216]

Mark anyway we can see nerd math on single club training. You listed 9 club exercises in this video. Do you start off doing them all or are there certain standards that must be achieved befor adding new ones. You talk about reps in the hundreds and I have no frame of reference for this. Please explain.

[@CalvinFongeist]

what’s a good starting weight for a heavy club?

[@jasonacraft]

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[@CalvinFongeist]

@@jasonacraft thanks bro!

[@jasonacraft]

@@CalvinFongeist no problem. I started with a 10lb in September, from a pretty fit place but no club experience. That worked really well at teaching me and strengthening my shoulder joints. Moved into a 15 in November and ordering the 20 now. Start light!

[@sofusgleditsch5562]

Would you say 1 Handed Club first and then 2 Handed, or the other way round? ...or parallel?

[@MarkWildman]

Depends on time and requirements

[@hampusheh]

Just got my first heavy club, it weighs 7.5 kg, I think - dunno what that is in lbs. But I'm having trouble fitting it into my kb-routine. I work out four times a week, with quite heavy KBs (I basically do your nerd math program). Do you have a video about slotting it into nerd math that I've missed? I find that if I do clubs on my rest days, it does kind of mess me up. Not in a bad way, but just in that I just got started with them, so it is quite a work out.

[@Stagnak]

Yeh look at the nerd math videos, there is a couple that go over adding clubs.

[@olyrhys8724]

7.5kg is 16.5lb 👍

[@hampusheh]

@@Stagnak Thanks!

[@eahuso]

Monday: Swings light / clean&press heavy Tuesday: TGU heavy / squats light Wednesday: Heavy Clubs Thursday: Swings heavy / TGU light Friday: Sqauts heavy / clean&press light i find it very hard, doing it for 2 weeks now, its a lot of leg work, i will go on for another 4 weeks and probably going a month of simple&sinister

[@Orsohobo]

Hi! I'm currently training with a 20kg macebell and I would like to buy a club: which size do you recommend to start with due my current level of strenght?

[@mikemcghee5413]

Snowing? i thought you were in sunny CA instructing The Rich and famous?

[@MarkWildman]

You may have missed the last.... 6 months or so

[@Salamaleikum80]

Is there a way to transition Mace/Club Training into Combat techniques?

[@MarkWildman]

Yes. A million. Which ones are you interested in

[@Salamaleikum80]

@@MarkWildman All of them, i have found one video where you drive some connections between the shield cast and martial arts do you have more videos? is it the "Martial Arts" Playlist?

[@MarkWildman]

I haven’t done a lot of specific one. But there are some on a martial art playlist.

[@jacksonaguilera1309]

If you have been training with a 35lb kettlebell, and are ready to move up in weight and had the choice between a 44lb and a 53lb which weight would you suggest?

[@larrytaggart865]

Jackson, I suggest the 44lber and start your volume and density cycles over again. Good luck.

[@newton283]

I just went from 35 to 44. This is my 5th week of 44 before going to 53. I haven’t whipped out the 53 yet but I think my shoulders would have a problem with a huge jump. The way I think of it is that even though I’m dishing out the money now, these 3 weight progression can be reused for various alternate style lifts. For example, start back at 35 and do outside cleans instead of inside. Not sure I’d wanna jump from 35 to 53 with those

[@tnCEO2023]

Do you recommend buying doubles first or just practice with a single?

[@MarkWildman]

Singles

[@mikec5099]

@@MarkWildman when is it a good idea to get doubles? And when and why are doubles essentials?

[@JaiRamJaiRamJaiRam108]

Super👍👌🙏

[@edt4955]

How much weight should we start with clubs

[@MarkWildman]

Men. 15 lbs

[@seventh_kingkyleramirez9186]

Eric Leija has very good demonstrations and is in my opinion a much better trainer.

[@MarkWildman]

Cool

[@chris6645]

Have you seen a guy named Kevin Wikse? He swings an 80lb club bell.

[@MarkWildman]

Cool. I’ll look him up