MARVEL WHAT IF Episode 8 REACTION: Ultron Most Powerful MCU Being?

Marvel Studios' "What If...?" Ep. 8 shows Ultron vs the Watcher, making Ultron as powerful as Galactus in the MCU! Can Ultron even be killed at this point? Go to AUDIBLE.COM/DRE... and listen to The Sandman: Act II now.
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Marvel's WHAT IF 1x08 asks the question, "What If Ultron Won?" In this episode, Ultron kills the Avengers and Thanos, acquiring the Infinity Stones to become a Nexus Being even more powerful than The Watcher, potentially as powerful as Galactus in the MCU. Is Ultron impossible to kill at this point, and how will the Watcher team up with Doctor Strange in the What If finale to stop Ultron? In this episode of Inside Marvel, Erik Voss and MT react to this first episode of What If and make predictions for next week's What If Episode 9! Easter Egg breakdown coming tomorrow!
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[@soundgal_sine_qua_non]

My two big takeaways from this episode: 1) The TVA was totally justified in saying "No robots!" 2) We're not ready for Multiverse of Madness.

[@tulip5210]

What were they saying that over..... OH OH YEAH

[@javi-hy8vv]

damn thats a good point for the no robot policy. must be racist for multiversal activist though

[@loading4354]

But this Ultron is not just a robot since Vision with tissue is Him too.

[@elijahagustino3605]

@@loading4354 he's still an android.

[@wiratamadean5994]

@@javi-hy8vv robot lives matter

[@tomcullen6357]

Thanos was halved, perfectly balanced as all things should be.

[@erickhart8046]

Thats a good one lol.

[@keifsavage1090]

Indeed

[@carlmccartney1025]

Except he didnt have a gauntlet on both arms, so not balanced

[@tamelaculp57]

PAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂

[@jrsp.2002]

damn hahaha

[@zSlicksco]

So funny how the last episode Crossbones said "we never get to use the nukes." Well know you get to see them used 😂

[@38siddhiwinayaks58]

Ironic?

[@chrischambers1133]

He didn't get to though 😂 Ultron did

[@38siddhiwinayaks58]

@@chrischambers1133 but his wish was fulfilled

[@chrischambers1133]

@@38siddhiwinayaks58 his wish was to be able to use but he still didn't get too so technically it wasn't

[@sonderer]

@@38siddhiwinayaks58 foreshadowing

[@kingof200ping8]

"You cannot compute the power of my will" has to be one of the greatest MCU lines.

[@RoastedVR]

FACTS

[@Abhayabhayam]

It is marvel's version of "In brightest day, in blackest night.."

[@bensenzo]

@@Abhayabhayam where's that from?

[@shyrolax6244]

@@bensenzo green lantern moto

[@Abhayabhayam]

@@bensenzo"In brightest day, in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let those who worship evil's might, beware my power, *Green Lantern* 's light.”

[@elijahpearson3086]

I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but the scene when Ultron senses the Watcher genuinely terrified me.

[@qhorton6743]

It was almost as if he sensed us watching the "What If.." episode as well lol

[@arrgggod4656]

Yep that scene was so great! When he said "I see you" I'm more terrified than Uatu lmao my jaw literally dropped

[@nachoyacho]

made me poop myself cause that shit scared me

[@nel.tharion7]

it's like how you're making fun of people on TV and they suddenly addresses you

[@manasas868]

Seriously it was like Ultron was talking to me . Creepy as hell 😬

[@HeatSeeker19]

"You cannot compute the power of my will", one of the best MCU lines

[@mattmurphy9346]

Under rated comment

[@aarronobsidian5597]

I genuinely thought Uatu was gonna tell Doctor Strange: "I've come to bargain". I would have lost my mind.

[@thechampion2430]

Oh my God, that would have been awesome!

[@Centure120]

Lmao

[@Mr.Technically]

damn, missed opportunity right there.

[@brentekuntimeddisaster7137]

But what if?

[@Saimeren]

This comment made me laugh harder than it probably should have.

[@timothymorgan95]

Dr Strange: So you can't intervene? The Watcher: "I've come to bargain"

[@drazikenn]

Then Dr Strange: I missed the part where that's my problem

[@hornball8711]

@@drazikenn ewww

[@Wolf813921]

@@drazikenn except he seems eager and willing. Probably wants free from that prison of his own design and knows the only way he can do that is to help the watcher.

[@drazikenn]

@@Wolf813921 what if this less heroic strange uses watcher to settle in a different universe. The Dr strange we saw in no way home trailer seems different hmmm

[@andrerichardson]

Good one :”)

[@MinhVNZ]

Ultron was so OP, unstoppable and terrifying in this ep. I'm so hyped for what happened next.

[@Packratjay]

Marvel spent 13 years world building, then took a step back and said, “Now let’s break everything.” Lol

[@mike_t_007]

Like setting up a giant Domino table lol

[@marekcmonster1937]

More than everything, an infinite number of everything

[@ItsSpectix]

Why build something just for it to sit there? You got to tear it down and change it up a bit, just like lego

[@anantrawat2311]

Because its always fun to demolish a domino tower after you've carefully built it up

[@thathighguy6980]

You must have rules before you can break them. I love that they're bending the idea of what Marvel films can be

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

Consider that Ultron’s mission of “Peace in our time” was influenced by almost 1 minute of surfing the internet

[@MohamadDowidar]

He was met by the trolls on Twitter so he decided we all deserve to die! Fair enough

[@elijahulrich2023]

Yep.

[@genya4687]

He probably saw rule34 of him and jarvis

[@richardthemagician8991]

So he is your average American!

[@mrj4082]

@@MohamadDowidar to be honest I sympitize with him. Cos of what's happening currently in thr world I understand him wanting to kill off the entire human race

[@StrayBee]

This episode proves that Corvus Glaive was MVP for stabbing Vision.

[@ngin98]

thats what I was saying 😂 the watcher & doctor strange needa go find him lol

[@plantbasedbooch]

He's out of line but he's right.

[@jackdonith]

Yeah, they now who they disabled first. And in Wakanda they surprise Wanda. However I think Ultorn with Vision's body is far more powerful than simple Vision. I mean, could Vision wipe out the Avengers like Ultron did in What if?

[@MrMadre]

How? I wouldn't matter unless Thanos just stood there and took it

[@israkhk]

@@jackdonith vision is on the side of life. While ultron doesnt care.

[@esadyor3420]

Tony's death is probably an absolute point in time. In Dr. Stranges words: "there was no other way"

[@soccerdude-df5uf]

That’s actually very true, and makes me love his character even more.

[@iliyaahmad9583]

Exactly! I thing eric's gonna talk about it in a video as well.

[@justindai8401]

dont really think so these are varying points in time

[@hewhobattles8869]

Whoa. That hits hard. Harder than Iron Man's suit

[@geekemedia]

Right

[@dillybar1992]

I just realized, getting the soul stone from someone else was the only way Ultron was going to be able to get it since he loves nothing.

[@cuca_]

Wow true

[@swagrjackrdraws420]

No he loves wanda

[@dillybar1992]

@@swagrjackrdraws420 Ultron isn’t Vision.

[@atomicboatz]

@@swagrjackrdraws420 aye do me a favor and reread that comment please

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

he loves himself

[@donswan8944]

the crystalline sounds of Uatu closing the window when Ultron realizes the multiverse, are the same as when Loki broke the "sacred timeline"

[@adastraperaspera38]

This episode hyped me. Especially when thanos went 50-50

[@joshbrosh6626]

Balanced as all things should be 😂😂

[@riduanaqil1452]

@@joshbrosh6626 lmaoo

[@adastraperaspera38]

@@joshbrosh6626 he doesn't even had the chance to blink 😂😂😭😭

[@tulip5210]

I didn’t buy that

[@kOreoMusic]

@@tulip5210 he could have put up a fight but he diddnt have the reaction time ultron does

[@thebigredwave]

"Ultron breaks thru to the watchers dimension without really breaking a sweat." Yes Erik. He is a robot.

[@costachiever5212]

From this comment I got the vibes of eetri saying in infinity war, "yes, that's what killing you means".

[@bensenzo]

Exactly. He has no sweat glands 🤣

[@WigantX]

He could eventually sweat some lubricant oil tho

[@josephtovar7861]

synthezoid*

[@greenbean325]

@@josephtovar7861 what's the difference between a synphizoid and a cybertronen

[@mrmatt7602]

We need a T-shirt saying “you cannot compute my will”

[@ComicalRealm]

Watcher getting scared of ultron was terrifying

[@prettycyber8332]

my jaw dropped

[@tadiwadzino8225]

Ultron gaining Multiversal awareness thanks to his code being enhanced by the Infinity Stones... it's like comic book poetry.

[@elijahulrich2023]

I was shocked; I thought that would've happened at the end of the episode.

[@josephbennion3273]

Honestly! Fight scene was really cool thou🤯😂

[@Chuck_EL]

@@tadiwadzino8225 every marvel comic nerd/fantastic four fanboy and fangirl went "Galactus" when Ultron ate a universe 😁

[@YeoThatsGabe]

this episode actually made me fear ultron , like when he first heard the watcher and he turned around and saw him I was legit scared 😂

[@ArtamisBot]

This was a better Ultron episode than all of Avengers age of Ultron.

[@rognema]

Uatu definitely shat his pants. itellu 😁

[@dgb_gaming6831]

Comic accurate

[@Jaysin412]

Scared me too for sure! Infinity Ultron didn't just see and hear and notice Uatu. He noticed us too!! He wasn't just talking to Uatu, he was saying that he can see Us too!!! Super creepy. We're part of the multiverse, just part that doesn't have super heroes....

[@ArtamisBot]

@@Jaysin412 I've been waiting to see when they introduce the viewers as a character, I always just assumed that we were like the watchers - being able to peer in at any point, while simultaneously knowing how the timeline progresses because we can skip to the end of we want, while also being unable to interfere. I also thought that they would introduce us within WandaVision and now within What If... I'm starting to wonder if they will...

[@janda1258]

I just love the imagery of Thanos getting split in half, just like he wanted to kill half of the universe

[@notkyle9204]

His death was perfectly balanced….

[@sunflow57]

Seeing The Watcher throw hands was everything I wanted.

[@Endy-di1sg]

Yea true but I REALLY want to see that doctor strange fight him. Will he absorb him after beating him ?

[@shadangel47]

You know, I like that they made that Galactis reference with Ultron cause it was the threat of Galactis that had the Watcher break his oath to intervene in the comics

[@GamerTheShy]

True

[@cervanntes]

I wonder if Uatu's decision to seek help in stopping Ultron actually breaks his oaths not to interfere, given that the only reason Ultron is aware of all these other realities he is invading is because he became aware of Uatu's watching. In other words, stopping Ultron at this point isn't so much a matter of breaking his oath of noninterference as it is of fixing the inadvertent damage his watching has inflicted on the multiverse.

[@CouchSpud91]

UltroVision attacked Uatu causing him to act, and is now threatening to destroy the multiverse. The ultimate goal of the Watchers is to obvserve but not alter the course of the universes, but if the universes are going to be wiped out without interference, then by acting against UltroVision Uatu isn't really breaking any vows. He's doing exactly what he's meant to do: Preserve the multiverse.

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

@@CouchSpud91 Ultron isn't Multiversal. He caps at high universal

[@yeetboi9625]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 but high universal uncontained is multiversal

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

@@yeetboi9625 no. In order to be Multiversal one must be able create or destroy 1001 universes in one go! And that is the lowest requirement. That's why beings like Zeno or Bill Cipher are only High Universal as well rather than Multiversal. They could destroy these 1001 universes but not in one shot! Thus they aren't officially Multiversal

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 And where did you get that definition? Any being capable of affecting multiple universes is multiversal.

[@answeris746]

Ultron pulling a galactus was the craziest thing marvel has done… period

[@matthewJ142]

Really? Lol without the stones, he's nothing. Kang knows the formula because he has the smarts

[@captainskinder]

@@matthewJ142 what does that have to do with what Answer is 7 said?

[@RIAN-tj2ky]

@@matthewJ142 kang (in loki) never allowed this to happen. But now, he has died and all the branches of reality has began (what if series) and then, this chaos is one of the problems that Kang wanted to avoid, war of universes.

[@fanegaminbw4519]

Meh... I'm a troll lol 🤣

[@content_watcher_only]

@@matthewJ142 Kang is afraid if Sentient beings, go back to the scene he ask Loki if he is an ai or robot.

[@StreetDisciple86]

Marvel Zombies vs Age of Ultron was literally a comic run storyline that I personally have a copy of and I'm certain that's where this is headed with doctor strange absorbing the stones and becoming unstoppable yet humane.

[@HighlanderCalvin]

I dont think he will absorb the stones I think he is only gonna use the time stone

[@StreetDisciple86]

@@HighlanderCalvin that's also a possibility! what I don't get is how the stones even work for Ultron outside of their assigned universe and the same with Dr Strange trapped in his sphere of existence. Ultron is nothing in the face of the living tribunal or any of the aspects of existence entity's personified. So either someone far above the or far below is going to intervene. The question is who? I'm guessing it's Dr Strange and Wands that take on Ultron Mega

[@sreenivaskamath4243]

@@StreetDisciple86 The Living Tribunal is not gonna come. He has the power to nullify the power of the Stones, so his intervention will cheapen the stakes of the story. It going to be Strange Supreme, The Watcher and the Multiversal Avengers.

[@katiebabyxx6207]

@@StreetDisciple86 The whole "stones work within their own timeline" thing was only used in a specific comic then added to similar arcs and comics. It isn't universally canon for every piece of Marvel media.

[@Wolf813921]

@@StreetDisciple86 what Wanda would you be referring to?

[@JONQPiD]

Dark Strange will assemble the “Multi-Verse of Madness Avengers”. It’s going to be so dope.

[@cgt9056]

Official title is guardians of the multiverse. Literally the title of the upcoming episode

[@prakash_77]

I like to call him Sorcerer Armani.

[@kevinwyman3385]

I like demonic strange

[@iwatchanime_2much714]

I’ve been saying this so many times now idk why but I really want the ravagers to be like side members of the multi verse avengers cuz we have CHA CHA as star lord and he is a member

[@jamess9208]

I like Darkter Strange

[@selmamabchour5843]

Tony's death could also be an absolute point in time. He just seems to never get a chance of survival.

[@Caz.Heisenberg]

I mean, he is a human

[@ppavankumar2903]

More like Tony's death is a absolute point which leads to disasters

[@thisisnotkp]

Absolute points changes from universe to universe

[@jordanromesburg6819]

@@thisisnotkp thank you, kind of frustrated me that they didn't really address that responding to the Uncle Ben question early in the video

[@manojlds]

By definition there are universes where he has a longer life. Absolute points are within a universe.

[@allydaquipil]

"Anything is possible in the multiverse" - Hulk swinging from building to building.

[@michaelwrightjr8797]

Or next time I need to be what is Bruce Banner got the power of wolverine got exposed to game radiation and I’ve been by a radioactive spider. Bam Spiderman hulk wolverine

[@bonnf8633]

@@michaelwrightjr8797 one of the most terrifying thing in the MCM

[@_MrWise]

@@michaelwrightjr8797 So we're just making up shit now?? lol Cool.. Cool...

[@chinmaychandraunshuh]

*multiverse not universe

[@allydaquipil]

@@chinmaychandraunshuh Oh yeah, I got confused lol

[@Vee1221]

When I saw Ultravison kill Thanos I was like “YES!” But then subconsciously realized Ultravison was worse

[@renardelliott4835]

Lmao waaaaaaaaay worse. No humanity lol

[@uncertaindrag0nstudios305]

Ultra Vision was genuinely terrifying. The fact that he just obliterated Thanos in less than a second is mind blowing (No pun intended)

[@anugrahsnair1150]

Yeh when I saw Thanos die lightning fast I was shocked as hell

[@nickthompson2023]

Thanos ain’t shit compared to Uatu. The fact that he wiped the floor with Uatu is far more terrifying.

[@TheMalT75]

It kind of feeds into the theme that even though Thanos is "evil" he (as the hero of his own story) is not a villian. So he can easily surprised and dispatched by someone actually evil.

[@skcul3583]

@@TheMalT75 well said

[@lionelmessisburner7393]

They only did that for plot convenience. Thanos would normally in that fight

[@Synthesyn342]

I don’t think I’ve ever been scared for a multiversal level being the watcher. Also seeing Thanos being thrown aside like that so easily... Mind blown! I was blown away the whole time! Seeing Ultron destroying entire planets and universes was amazing! Incredible episode!

[@vincentfreddoyle7555]

maybe Thanos is just stronger in our main MCU

[@derrickdrake6707]

ikr like why didn't they use the mid stone like that in the cinematic universe..that was some cold sht

[@order66pizzas]

@@derrickdrake6707 vision was stabbed and weakened at the start of infinity war remember?

[@yaboi101yusuf4]

@@vincentfreddoyle7555 its so stupid that thanos got destroyed like that he had 5 Stones % STONES

[@SilentDanDisney]

I can’t help but think Kang will do something similar to this Ultron in first half of the next Infinity War story whatever that is that leads into the next Endgame whatever that is.

[@lazerman27]

Someone pointed out that the mind stone can be used to read minds and ultron sensed what thanos was gonna due and attacked before thanos could even think

[@sweetTB]

But yes, the moment Ultron heard the continued narrating and attacked was a scary shock.

[@elijahulrich2023]

Agreed.

[@drazikenn]

The moment when you imagine from Watcher's pov!

[@TomCee53]

Breaking the fifth wall?

[@sebastianosorio2598]

this episode was the real age of ultron… loved it

[@jeffo7799]

Agreed, haven’t been a fan of what if until this episode.

[@aidanjahns3656]

@@jeffo7799 Bruh this episode had the most inconsistencies.

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@aidanjahns3656 nah

[@aidanjahns3656]

@@madnessarcade7447 It did. One the infinty stones don't work outside of their universe yet they did in this episode. Two Thanos was able to tank a hit from all the stones so how did he die to one? Third Thanos wouldn't have been able to get them in the first place.

[@redgevhere1375]

@@aidanjahns3656 the stones dont work outside the multiverse, i.e. the TVA. They work within the confines of the Universes

[@fathimaabdulrazak9128]

Seeing what infinity stones can do now;make me realize how humble thanos was

[@rebelprime]

Thanos was a hero we didn't deserve

[@Gs55376]

Yeah thanos just wanted to do what was his destiny and then he destroyed the stones , thanos got a fan

[@Shadowdragon1143]

This was like fight between two gods in dragon ball super

[@jamieruhland9362]

Zola being carried like a backpack gave me Hellboy vibes when he carries Ivan in the graveyard lol

[@Raphell28]

That was a funny scene 😂

[@TacoJack]

Also C3P0 on Chewie's back in Empire vibes.

[@alexanderyekhanin8830]

Reminded me of domino carrying Deadpool

[@bensenzo]

It was cute

[@MagicCityMayhem]

The Watcher’s combat armor looked similar to the Eternals.

[@king_dot]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing

[@chadd990]

yeah, there's a lot of Eternal vibes with The Watcher. They make a point in The Eternals trailer to say that they aren't meant to intervene, and then it's implied that they do intervene. I can't wait for this phase 4 jigsaw puzzle to come together.

[@darthjedironin924]

I felt galactus vibes with his armor

[@felixlara2945]

It's all just Greco Roman armor

[@hesterland9635]

I actually laughed when he basically called Uatu a perv for just "watching"...

[@gtortillaz21]

The reason tony keeps dying is because if he doesn’t die, huge points in the timeline still occur, for example the snap. If he never exists, the universe collapses

[@qhorton6743]

Aka an absolute point

[@eddieterrell5215]

Except he created ultron...that 1 could have been avoided

[@MagicCityMayhem]

Dr Strange said there was only one time they succeeded. Tony (and everybody else) died a lot.

[@neoshenlong]

I liked the implication that the Watcher had been chatting with Strange. Strange was a lot calmer this episode than when we last left him, and he greeted the Watcher as if seeing an old friend.

[@dweblinveltz5035]

If they somehow lured Ultron to the TVA, would he instantly collapse as his mind stone becomes ineffective?

[@cuca_]

Wow

[@Knight3rrant]

Highly likely. I maintain that it is likely the TVA and the dumping ground are actually down in the quantum realm. Down there, the stones are inert. Or, when the stones are pruned or separated from their source timeline, they lose their mojo.

[@woodcider]

His consciousness isn’t in the mind stone. That was why they attempted to remove it in Infinity War so they could keep Vision alive whilst destroying the stone. But by being in the TVA Ultra Vision would lose pretty much all of his powers.

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

@@Knight3rrant probably that's what they will do so we can go over to loki season 2 and loki teams up with Supreme Strange from here

[@will_kane1313]

This episode had me saying “WHATTTT” so much. So excited to watch this!!!!

[@ttv-kxngajslays-7074]

My biggest “what” moment was when he took thanos down in 2 seconds flat 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@ftlteknik4035]

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFF

[@TheTommyTrials]

@@ftlteknik4035 I wanted to make that joke 😂

[@user-ru1eg2fw4o]

for me it was WHAT THE F so many time but what a fantastic episode

[@karencepeda9120]

@@ttv-kxngajslays-7074qaSee e I just got right o

[@pikaverse2497]

“UltronVisison took over the multiverse” Marvel What If Zombies: WHAT THE FU___

[@deonte1981]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nuvjoti]

In the universe where Steve is president… “mr president will you release your tax returns?” President Rogers: “no, I don’t think I will”

[@longmatey80]

Episode explained poorly: Turns out, Ultron is a loner who collects rocks.

[@joejardine4489]

Whoa

[@baderalmulhim1526]

They are minerals!

[@RandomAndysChannel]

Trying to collect them likes I see. haha jk jk Oh also nice to see you here! :D

[@n1c704]

His hobbies also include, traveling, small talk with strangers, group parties

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

Infinity war by that poorly explained logic: Thanos is a nihilistic philanthropist look for some rocks

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

Holy goddamn shit. This episode? *chef's kiss* I swear to God this finale next week will be glorious.

[@drizzo4669]

Ultron has found "GLORIOUS PURPOSE "

[@ShittyShittyGameGang]

I said the exact same thing to my friends. I cannot wait!

[@elijahulrich2023]

The finale, for this season at least, will be 2 weeks from now. This is only episode 8.

[@ShittyShittyGameGang]

@@elijahulrich2023 I heard they moved one of the episodes to season 2

[@elijahulrich2023]

@@ShittyShittyGameGang First I heard of it.

[@JCNewsFlow]

As soon as I saw Zola’s name, my first thought was, ‘Voss and MT are gonna lose their minds over this one’ 😂

[@jessehugley7609]

Bruce Banner/ Hulk: " Thanos is comming, he's comming! Ultron: " FASCINATING!"

[@JoMFTado]

I bet the last title will be “What if The Watcher broke his oath”

[@TheDcapson]

What If... The Watcher intervenes

[@elijahulrich2023]

Makes sense to me.

[@sAMMYsILVER.]

I think either that or something like what if the multiverse broke

[@chandleralves698]

"Anything is possible in a multiverse" *Real Taskmaster shows up and defeats Ultron by copying him*😂

[@taylorlaroche8943]

Don’t… don’t give me hope

[@ComeWhatMay24]

Been waiting on this reaction ALL DAY! This episode was easily the best so far, & one of the best things the MCU has done!!!

[@atggamez3597]

Same

[@bensenzo]

I know The Watcher is talking to us as an audience but that's TWO powerful beings now who've noticed him because of it so maybe he should scale down on the narrating 😅😅 Maybe use signals or something 🤣

[@JackMihoff6969]

People are arguing what to call this vision/ultron. He’s obviously the perfect vision so we can call him 20/20

[@surreal_dreams]

"You cannot compute the power of my will" might very well be the single most badass comeback I've ever heard.

[@lucianoDoni1]

If he didn't get his ass kicked by Ultron. Yeah

[@kasplachio7689]

If Uatu hadn’t encountered ultron before, does that mean this is the only universe that he’s ever actually won?

[@19UME097SamuelDebbarma]

Actually,in the Ultron Universe,he was also supposed to lose at the end....If he was in that universe. Zola would have wiped out from internet.... But somehow, that Ultron attained, consciousness of other Universe,and break the fourth wall . That's why, Zola wasn't unable to wipe him...coz he isn't in the universe.

[@zaster101]

@@19UME097SamuelDebbarma he only gains that awareness as a result of Uatu he may not realized it at that point but after the situation with strange he should have realized he is becoming easier to notice.

[@callitwhatyoumay]

Think Thanos: it took YEARS for M to introduce his "essence" his "this is what I'm about, I'm Thanos"... so whatever is gonna happen upon our WHAT IF conclusion, it'll leave us on a cliffhanger for WHAT IF SEASON TWO!

[@o-wolf]

@@zaster101 no. he was noticed because the being he was observing had cosmic level power/cosmic awareness.. strange supreme had absorbed multiple Nexus beings essences.. &Ultron was an organic vibranium AI anomaly with complete nano control over the infinity stones

[@zaster101]

@@o-wolf yes he should have realized the stronger they are the easier he is to notice? If he only narrated when watching lesser beings and only watched when it came to powerful beings he would remain unnoticed. It is his own fault that’s part of his character he may seem godlike but he still has “human “ qualities that can lead to trouble

[@orien2v2]

One thing to note is how this episode never dealt with time manipulation. Ultron has the time stone but doesn't use it. Uatu mentions that he sees everything that had, could and will happen. I'm wondering if despite multiple realities and multiverses, they're still on the same singular timeline which leads to the TVA being outside of all this. Kang might even be watching this unfold on one of the many branches of timelines split after Loki. Realities and multiverses could be like bubbles(or gems) floating along a linear timeline. So far, Ultravision has only been jumping from bubble to bubble,but not seen the other rivers yet.

[@MafridhoBagus]

about kang, he said he battled and won the multiversal war... i think it includes this version of ultron as well... so guys, we can beat ultron.. 😅

[@CouchSpud91]

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking, and it fills in the "plot hole" of UltroVision's Infinity Stones working outside of his dimension.

[@JosephWolfson]

Thanos: You should have gone for the head… Infinite Ultron: I’ll just go for everything!

[@aroncanapa5796]

Well, he did start at one head and went thru the other

[@L-Rod]

@@aroncanapa5796 😳.......🤯

[@user-ru1eg2fw4o]

and dam it was perfectly balanced as all things should be

[@tranqle73]

He went for the nutsack and then worked his way up.

[@miguelr5180]

When he killed Thanos I was pissed you telling that’s all my boy vision had to do😂

[@tylerblank2854]

Fr wtf

[@Lamontep49]

😆

[@djlo8238]

LoL 😹😹😹 Vision didn't have the gall but Ultravision gave zero f*cks

[@Wish_kid03]

That part. It was just that simple

[@debruppoddar9587]

The next episode could be titled: What if the Watcher broke his oath?

[@EvilRidingHood]

I hope so. That means he will literally be the hero of this series.

[@jacobmadison6803]

@@EvilRidingHood no it’s the creation of the guardians of the multiverse

[@Wish_kid03]

Love the part where Ultron pretty much called the Watcher a peeping Tom.

[@LazyDruid]

It's a different universe the stones, characters, places could be in completely different places and configurations. There's a universe where loki is an alligator. Anything is possible in the multiverse.

[@Razor_Regiment]

Because you know…plot devices.

[@_falafey]

I get that it’s a “plot hole” for the infinity stones and stuff but honestly, I do not care! Stopped caring about the “gathering” of stones once I saw the cart full of them at the TVA. Don’t need every single last detail shown on screen. I ACCEPT. He’s got them. Now Ultron has them. Who cares.

[@andrewholland5004]

I also think if there are infinite universes then how could there even be a plot hole? Infinite possibilities means the stones could've been anywhere anytime in this particular universe. No need to worry about it.

[@citlallycolin7997]

I thought the stones in the TV's don't work cause they're from a timeline that was reseted/erased

[@its_dey_mate]

It just speaks of bad writing. And we need to point it out for them to do better. We need good content, otherwise in this state it is just "content"

[@andrewholland5004]

@@citlallycolin7997 Yeah, but the timeline's Ultron is visiting haven't been reset/erased so it's all good

[@gelfeatherweight5335]

@@its_dey_mate so you didn't enjoy this series, eh? Cool story

[@SingTingz31]

I love how this series can bring in so many characters and cameos because it's animated.

[@michaelrhett4958]

Ultron sliced Thanos so fast as if he were a delicious pizza

[@subzerogamer2534]

Pizza time

[@captaindragonyt8439]

I want thanso pizza in my stomach

[@ArcstarTheCommenter6337]

Thanos pizza with day thicc bread

[@wiseguy3675]

You're late. I'm not paying for those.

[@tamelaculp57]

PAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂

[@hassanmccraw5905]

Ultron is confusing “Peace” with “Quiet”

[@PhazonX]

Mccraw is confusing "Quite" with "Quiet". 😜

[@hassanmccraw5905]

@@PhazonX auto correct

[@hassanmccraw5905]

@@PhazonX thanks

[@aksharaghav9657]

Uatu: I don't understand. This should not be possible. Ultron: Oh, but anything is possible in a multiverse. BURN!

[@alexanderdumas-]

Probably why the TVA didn’t want robots without “temporal aura” surfing the multiverse

[@mike_t_007]

Hell yes... They get zapped instantly lol

[@mikeburnsiv]

RE: infinity stones. This is a different timeline and you can't apply what happened in our timeline with the stones to this one. For example, the power stone may have never been on Xandar.

[@VibeBringerAce]

I feel like Ultron and Thanos would probably get along if Ultron didn’t instantly kill him.

[@IsabellaCV]

One wants equilibrium, the other just wants straight up Genocide

[@VibeBringerAce]

@@IsabellaCV Yes but fundamentally they are both trying to create peace. Plus Ultron might see the reasoning that if theres enough resources no one will have to fight.

[@IsabellaCV]

@@VibeBringerAce nah, ultron thinks that there will always be fights.And while yes, both want peace...their definition of peace, and their ways are so, so different

[@coolguy082]

I honestly don’t think so. Ultron wanted those stones for himself. You have something Thanos wants? He’ll give you a chance to simply give it to him. You have something Ultron wants? He will kill you without hesitation to get it.

[@SilentDanDisney]

I thought Thanos was a Dictator. Ultron seems to be a worse Dictator. Authoritarian and he’s probably still alive as Voss said in a computer ready to be downloaded. God help us all. I mean Ultron literally has no soul he’s a machine. I keep thinking Steel Clan in Gargoyles if they were to go rogue. I wonder if Kang is gonna do something similar that we saw here. Timelines will be destroyed by that Conquerer somehow forcing the formation of Cassie, Kate, Eli and rest of Young Avengers. They need something to avenge when that story comes to fruition.

[@justcaustin]

I found it interesting to see that vision could've easily taken on Thanos single handedly. He simply lacked the will to do so.

[@elijahulrich2023]

He just didn't consider that an option.

[@nachoyacho]

in the beginning of infinity war the blade he was stabbed by prevented him from using the mind stones power, i dont remember why specifically but yeah :/

[@all_hail_annihilus_lordoft3591]

This “Infinite Ultron” scared me more than anything I’ve seen in real life. The lack of humanity and sheer will just to want to cleanse the multiverse of us is the scariest thing I’ve ever seen. I hope we see him in the live MCU.

[@drkarthikkumar9901]

Ultron may have computed, that a snap could damage his "Vision" body.. So he went on his deletion process, one by one..

[@roaringdrop364]

He is not organic so it’s sorta different tho

[@epictoe7179]

Honestly I didn’t think the Watcher was going to be found. Except when he started monologuing. Ultron: “were you monologuing just now?” Watcher: “O SHIT HE HEARD ME!”

[@elijahagustino3605]

You sly dog! You heard my monologuing!

[@shreyanshd43]

@@elijahagustino3605 13 minutes late otherwise I would've commented the same thing 😅

[@Jmszukis]

The continuity piece that throws me off is that in Loki it’s specifically stated that an infinity stone cannot be used outside of its own reality, so then how is Ultron able to use his in a different universe where other infinity stones would exist?

[@jayshirley8274]

I had this thought as well. I was so confused when ultra vision was able to use the stones from the little hallway dimension that the watcher uses to watch everything. I assumed that dimension would be the same as the tva

[@icicleditor]

Probably because Loki only said Magic doesn't work in the TVA, which includes the stones. We see the watcher use magic in the hallway so it's safe to say magic works there also ultravision built different

[@jayshirley8274]

@@icicleditor you got a point there. Mans sliced thanos in half like i slice my tomatos for a fresh salad

[@chong3632]

well, Loki showed that the infinity stones are useless in TVA headquarters, which was, if i recall, placed outside of the multiverse. Dr. Strange used the time stone in the dark dimension to entrap Dormammu, and Endgame shows that the stones do work in the alternate timelines of the multiverse

[@eddiemeggs4018]

Hawkeye has Harry Potter vibes this episode with the invisibility cloak

[@ArcstarTheCommenter6337]

All of the Harry Potter fans eyes popped out of their eyes when we saw that

[@jamiemckelvie342]

The Watcher to Evil Strange: “what if...I locked you up until I needed you to fix a problem???? Joking hahahaha...unless 🥺👉🏻👈🏻🥺”

[@josephdarby2001]

Would love to see Ultron use the stones to pull zola’s code from the Ultron bot and form his original body. Then just to punch him through the face

[@andeiqi]

This ep was ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!

[@highq9039]

I’m side eyeing Disney for being so comfortable with decapitation, dismemberment, and splitting its characters open. 🤣😭😭 anyone notice how this happens quite often in the what if episodes and in the movies?

[@cadtexequiel732]

If the The Multiverse of Madness will be a horror film I hope it will be more gritty.

[@danielwells1734]

Disney are big-time hypocrites. That said, What If has been pretty good.

[@SunshineCasy]

Disney just signs the checks. They own so many properties for different audiences. The MCU is usually rated PG-13 and TV-14, so the violence checks out.

[@theoutdoorguy8740]

Disney has been killing characters for over 30 years

[@jasonshird6268]

Disney did a cartoon of the Headless Horseman 🤣

[@stevencooper564]

That final fight was absolutely incredible. Like if Jack Kirby animated a Dragonball fight.

[@myplaylist3738]

I think Erik is overthinking a bit about the plot-hole. It's called the multiverse for a reason. The locations of the stones in this universe where Thanos found them are probably different compare to the main MCU timeline. Simple as that. Plot-hole fixed 👍

[@younevereverknow...]

Exactly!

[@renecharbonneau1842]

Why is this so hard to understand? The stones being in the same places in every universe would be dumber !

[@swethas5335]

I mean The Watcher told the story is same till the time where Ultron completed the transferred himself in to Vision's body where as in our universe Vision's body was taken by Avengers.

[@renecharbonneau1842]

@@swethas5335 the Ultron story yes. Doesn’t mean everything everywhere was the same until then

[@myplaylist3738]

@@renecharbonneau1842 perfect answer! That is what am saying too. The watcher only shows us the Ultron part, everything else might also changed as well too but we don't get to see that. Hence, that's why the location of the stones & how Thanos collect them is different as well.

[@BeastNation-pr6pt]

I lost it when ultron sliced thanos in half

[@artdrenaline3293]

I thought that was awesome

[@KingTwonB23]

Unexpected 🤯

[@danielgrussgott7651]

I love the look on MT's face when Erik says the intro to "What If" i could be a foreshadowing of what could come. I love watching you guys!

[@huoncampbell-ellis8147]

The way Ultron punched the watcher through universes reminded me of America Chavez's ability to kick through the multiverse

[@Tirannie]

I feel like this episode is kind of about The Observer Effect (which I guess is kind of funny, cause: The Watcher), as in it implicates the viewer. If we weren't watching, The Watcher wouldn't have been narrating, and UltronVision wouldnt have found the multiverse.

[@cuca_]

Woaah

[@averageidiot133]

🤯

[@josephfuller554]

brilliant

[@blessedandbeautiful3189]

he should've been whispering smh

[@plum_charisma6955]

The credits were the true villains in this episode. I didn't want it to end.

[@sweetTB]

Two questions: 1. Aren't there other Watchers that could work together to defeat Ultron? 2. Was the shield Natasha found from the Red Guardian? A nod to the Black Widow movie?

[@gentlesnot1864]

1. Idk 2. Yes

[@RC_Gaming_306]

Only if Uatu had narrate away from ultron’s range of hearing the multiverse could have been saved

[@cuca_]

Lol

[@nickthompson2023]

He gained multiversal awareness so Ultron would’ve heard Uatu regardless.

[@MonoRoja]

I kinda get what MT means by a bundle of multiverses. There are many crystals. Each crystal contains many facets. Each facet is its own universe. The Watcher exists in a space between crystals-so between multiverses. Therefore he exists within a bundle of multiverses. I'm unsure if that means that there are other bundles-but considering that he swore an oath it would seem that there would be other watchers existing within their own bundles.

[@RaptorJezus27]

When Ultron sliced Thanos in half, my face was like this 😮

[@cameronmimnagh4395]

I’ve been saying forever that ultron is the strongest in the mcu simply because he could do stuff like what he did in this episode. Ultron never gets this kind of recognition and I love that he’s getting it here. He’s the best character in marvel

[@princetonchia1285]

One of* He's not the best character in the mcu so stop being delusional. 🤡🤡🤡

[@atulkrishna3467]

This episode is literally giving me chills

[@belowpressure]

Guys lets all hope the finale is at least 45 minutes maybe an hour

[@gtortillaz21]

THIS EPISODE WAS NUTS!!!

[@maxblonde]

The questions you find important are not the questions that everyone finds important, and the storytellers have to address the questions that they find important, and luckily, I totally vibe with it. Also, with infinite timelines, and multiple universes, every permutation exists, so if you say "did Zola help" yes. he did. somewhere.

[@Shortsonic37]

Thanos: exists Ultron: “So you like balance huh?”

[@ThatFishguy...]

I'm starting to think Ultron was the reason the sacred time line broke

[@tgatsby2547]

Do you think they'd really write the entire next phases of marvel based on the What If series?

[@jesuswalksonwater7095]

@@tgatsby2547 It's marvel, of course they would

[@waldokleynhans6977]

Ultron was created after the sacred timeline broke

[@tgatsby2547]

@@jesuswalksonwater7095 But that would kinda screw the story telling over for those who pretty much only watch the movies

[@soldierboywannabe267]

Ultron was always my favorite villain bc of how he portrays himself, he’s scary demeanor and aptitude combined is terrifying. Is good to see visión have some respect on his powers in this episode.

[@Cwronaga216]

I wonder if Ultron realizes that once he's wiped out everything everywhere leaving the entire Multiverse in infinite silence that he'll be sitting there alone with no purpose dealing with the infinite cycling of his infinite sub-conscience running endlessly as his infinite mind attempt to understand the contradictory Concepts of both infinity and Oblivion eventually driving him mad to the point he will have to tear apart his own existence just stop the screaming silence or will he rebuild the Multiverse more efficient and in His image

[@Vikseen_virtual]

Might rebuild and loop his existence

[@gaminginferior7936]

i like this.

[@Cwronaga216]

@@gaminginferior7936 the concept of Oblivion is something that cannot be fathomed by any mind especially not that of a rigid efficient machine

[@J.O.R.D]

Isn’t that what he did in his universe and that’s the reason he leaves for others? 😅 It’s just the same thing on a bigger scale

[@robertmaldonado1845]

I think the fact that he doesn't understand that shows how he is at the end of the day just code and AI without emotion just like an AI system (like the one that learned to play Mario) he is set up with one goal and he will do whatever it takes to get that goal there was no way for him of thinking about change from that predetermined goal the goal being peace in the universe by the means of getting rid of the noise