Mary Kay Letourneau - the teacher jailed for raping a student she later married | 7NEWS Spotlight

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Following this story, the pair divorced, and Mary Kay Letourneau died in July 2020 from cancer. Read more: 7news.link/322PorE

[@suvariboy]

It’s sad when anyone that young dies, but I’m glad that Vili is finally away from her. You could see during the interview that she still had a great deal of control over him. My heart ached when Mary kept asking Vili, “Who’s the boss?” The look on his face made me want to cry. I’m glad he’s finally free.

[@jeanmichelhoarau4455]

Ppmppmpppmmm

[@RainSunRain]

@@suvariboy yeah he looked really uncomfortable. If this is how they interact in public, imagine in private. He looks like he's still abused and under her control at this age

[@suvariboy]

@@RainSunRain He did. They separated after this interview. Then she died. Cancer. Hopefully now he can have a really life.

[@mariegrace_lopez_ishihara777]

I believed that in love, love is blind. Love does'nt choose age, appearance if you hit by it. I think this what happened to them. Sad thing, it was immoral in the eyes of the law.

[@jazzybash1]

Little boys have flirted with their teacher before. It’s meant to be corrected not entertained.

[@stephanienavarro2417]

This af

[@elainevankat5353]

Absolutely agree! Well said...

[@jmgab7993]

👍👍👍

[@godsbabi1]

Speak!

[@gigilamoore2656]

Wow, you said that exactly right.

[@rzum81]

Glad the interviewer gives her a hard time about their illegal relationship. We need to stop the double standards on female sex predators.

[@bandgeekonflute]

Did you see how she totally deflected it. Would not take responsibility at all!

[@tiffanysanchez9184]

You are disgusting if you think a woman should be allowed to screw a child or that anyone should be allowed to without consequence!

[@jam5533]

@@tiffanysanchez9184 Who are commenting to?

[@lolarusna4828]

Mehtuhr I think just in general or agreeing with the comment

[@jam5533]

@@lolarusna4828 Ah

[@melissaparker340]

It’s not uncommon or weird when a student has a crush on their teacher. What’s weird is when the teacher reinforces that crush and abuses their position.

[@Mika77Top]

Like Briggitte Macron

[@Maiju86]

Exactly!

[@Jettabbg]

Facts!! And the fact there’s people justifying this is sad

[@moreafterthistime]

@@Mika77Topthey didn’t start until he was of age

[@WeirdVal]

@@moreafterthistimereally? 13 is “of age”? Then explain why she went to prison for it 😂 🤡

[@lisaross4216]

I refuse to believe a teacher didn’t know this was a crime. What an awful abuser, she’s so full of it.

[@eugenelim5502]

@@lisaross4216 Mary said "I have to give away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend."

[@segunfamaye5377]

Even if there Is no law, morally it is wrong

[@tanithjackson8686]

She claimed he was lusting after her at age EIGHT? Trying to make HIM out to be the aggressor, at age eight? This was one sick woman.

[@yoniem9835]

She manipulated him all his life

[@wicketandfriendsparody8068]

What, he wanted her to play with his tickle me ELMO? :/ Good thing his kids are adults now she’s gone. My friend was 16 with a 36 year old two kids and married. Not too many teenage boys wouldn’t go for that. Problem with that you end up a widower like him paying for your kids college by yourself etc. :/

[@0533510]

She wished but his reaction said it all.

[@tymekamiranda8654]

Oh my goodness!! This lady was sick!!! Still did not want to take responsibility for her actions after all that time...wow!!

[@disneydreamer8147]

@@wicketandfriendsparody8068 lol!

[@nolwazi6517]

I just don’t understand how a THIRTY FOUR year old ADULT doesn’t see a 12 year old as a CHILD???

[@courtkawaii9692]

Seriously though!!!

[@catmomlavender3036]

Right , even he said at 35 he could not see himself being with a 13 y/o

[@poizonivy01]

She’s sick. She tried to she viewed him as a man. And what’s worst she doesn’t see that her actions are wrong

[@catmomlavender3036]

@@poizonivy01 now that shes died ,maybe she will have an afterlife that helps her understand.... But yes she was so sick.

[@sherryaltman1021]

Cause she was sick in the head

[@14selinagomez]

This is Grooming 101. She’s literally putting words in his mouth and getting upset when he says otherwise.

[@meem527]

The way she keeps repeating her questions is very controlling

[@jmo53214.]

Exactly right!! It seems to me he didn't want to have his kids experience the broken home he did and kind of got stuck. Which is incredibly mature for his age when she got out of prison but he has absolutely been groomed and programmed. It's really uncomfortable to watch, I think about his mother and her family, what they had to have gone through...

[@mayladrido6536]

The boy is caged even now that he is in a mans body he is a prisoner of his childs playful, lustful self....and somehow the look on his face is saying he wanted to escape.

[@susyturandot]

She’s very manipulative and acts like the boy made her do things. She’s disgusting.

[@bjmt1585]

Like she kept asking "Who was the boss back then?".... a 13 year old boy control a 35 year old, oh gosh!! But herself is controlling the interview

[@Djc00lness]

Sad asf. He missed out on all the things a kid goes through, first crush, first date, he never got a chance to be a child and teen. He was a father at 13. How sad

[@sophiashmia6587]

They are divorced now shortly after this interview

[@RedPanda555]

But in return, he got to live out a school boy fantasy that hardly any boys get to experience.

[@TheAaronChand]

@Djc00lness agian Childhood is a recent development untill after World War 2 and the 1950s and 1960s and across human history people survived for centuries without having a carefree youth teenage years and became adults at Vilis age

[@annlemaiyan6423]

You cannot miss what you've never experienced. That's his reality. May he find peace.

[@stevethea5250]

@@sophiashmia6587 WHYS THAT ?

[@jigglehugs]

Why is she flattered that 8 year old boys were tying to look under her skirt...that’s when you teach the boys a lesson about respecting boundaries

[@jjhfcf_metal6259]

She didn't know about it when he was 8-year-old. He told her afterwards, when she could not teach anything. 🙄

[@f.u.noseyassstalker7147]

I think she's holding on to a lie . Come on. She didn't know it was a crime?! Really old enough to be his parent. This is everything backwards and wrong, it almost feels forced with some brainwashing and control. Not to add manipulation. Why and how would a person find a child sexually attractive! She doesn't care about the moral stipulations. she's totally dismissive about the facts. He wants freedom and I can see she still has control over him.

[@JP-qx2wb]

Exactly !!!

[@Alex-jt5wh]

I highly doubt that is true, what 8 year old thinks about sex.

[@redfo3009]

She pretends she’s so appalled but she loved telling that sick story of them hiding in the closet?!!

[@xoxo2026]

It broke me when I heard him say “I did it for the kids..I stayed for the kids…I wanted 2 parents under the same roof for my kids. Because I didn’t have that”

[@feyrol42]

He was a kid deciding to stay for his kids. No child should be put in that position to have to think like that.

[@MsVamPireChic]

When did he say that? What’s the timestamp? I watched the whole thing and don’t remember him saying that, so maybe I missed it lol

[@Ok-qj6fg]

@@MsVamPireChic25:30

[@notaudreyiswear]

thats f sad as hell omg.

[@1stYoutubeHandle]

It must have been a very lonely road for him, especially when his own children love his abuser so much. I found interviews of their children praising that p3d0 c**t a good mother, which is really horrifying because he didn’t want his children grown up in a broken home like him, so he has to play it off with his rap1st, and in return, his children love his rap1st so much. The whole thing is like the people you love, siding with the creep that r@ped you, but you can’t even complain about it. Horrifying is all I can say. My heart breaks for him, and I hope he can get the help he needs.

[@glo061084]

He does not look happy at all. She is a bully and she stole his childhood and life.

[@suriyamclean5625]

Stole his entire youth

[@krishonbattle1140]

And where is her other 4 children she already had did she turn away from them

[@FeroxCinereoLupus]

They’re only together because they want to prove something to the world. I think he outgrew her, but she’s still holding on to that fairytale love she though they had.

[@solomonmbugua4635]

Correctmando

[@karenchastain9789]

He pursued her but she could have declined How can anyone be sexually attracted to someone your kids age Besides I doubt she would have believed a 34 year old man being with her 12 year 9ld daughter was ok

[@koorizfynz]

It must be weird for their daughters knowing deep down their mother is a pedophile and their father a victim.

[@trioray9090]

@@koorizfynz my thought is she has them railroaded too and he's in on it to normalize the situation because he has their best interests at heart.

[@HeadofSails]

...the issue is she isn't a pedophile. Being 13 he is a sexually active minor, not child. So it's statutory rape yes, but not pedophila. Which is evident as her desire towards him seemingly increased as he became a man. If it was a 7yr old I think they would have punished her better.

[@alexandramoyer8785]

@@HeadofSailswow what are you hiding? You’re completely wrong .

[@HeadofSails]

@@alexandramoyer8785 ..the word you meant to say was Hebephilia. Not pedophilia. If anything. Stop bullying people. We are sick of it.

[@DayandNight24]

@@HeadofSailsso you think 12 year olds!!! are sexually active and having sex/relationships with adults in their Mid Thirties!!!

[@cee_el]

The host straight up looked disgusted with her.

[@charlize3071]

And rightfully so

[@1tbspjasmine]

He literally couldn't even hide it. I wouldn't be able to either.

[@desertrose00]

Should be

[@smp6565]

Rightfully so, she's a child predator monster who should not of been let out of prison

[@zombiedoll100]

Lol u got that right.

[@ragamuffin2829]

Grooming a child is NOT a "character flaw" - it's a genuine and deliberate choice to be predatory.

[@jordanscott6204]

BUT she said she DIDN’T KNOW it was a crime, she was just MISJUDGED! -a loser

[@rumxyaliyu6433]

Who doesn't know it's wrong to have sex with a child 🤷🏽‍♀️ who??? Only idiots

[@naimahq8739]

Ameen

[@thebigmann81]

I think it a mental illness because no normal person would do this but that doesn't matter she still should get life or death. In the old days it didn't matter if you was ill if there is no cure or you did the crime you die period. That's for sex crime or murder.

[@myspates6]

She pretty much trapped him and ruined his life and took his youth

[@davidcjones3100]

TRUST ME, IF THIS WAS A MALE TEACHER, HE WOULD'VE BEEN NAILED TO THE CROSS.

[@patricianjambi2933]

Very true bros

[@sunbabbyyy1776]

As a female I can say that this is true

[@irasanchez1265]

They talk about that straight up

[@Ahmad_9134]

Nailed to the cross is also being very lenient man, 10/10 would be WORSEEE!! And hey, he would deserve it! But this is whole ordeal is sooooo WEIRDDDDDD

[@sunbabbyyy1776]

@Margaret Yankson he's basically saying how if a man did this it would be way more worse than this

[@h3rbans0ul]

shes trying to blame him as hard as she can to avoid looking like the bad guy but she looks even more sick. you can tell by his facial expressions that shes not telling the truth AT ALL.. my heart goes out to the victim.

[@empressemyraldzllc5734]

He still looks abused to me. The woman is the power . He is stuck in his mind and has no say. I pity for him . He didn’t live his childhood due to childhood mistakes. It’s sad

[@neilnelmar8007]

Another amateur phycologist

[@triciakekana]

Really sad

[@WildernessReader]

He does, you can tell he disagrees with things she's says but it's like he's afraid to speak up. It's like he says he did it for his daughters. Very sad!

[@absolutetrash6226]

He is brainwashed. He was a victim of child grooming. This makes me sick to my stomach

[@tracyj1117]

I agree this poor guy has been conditioned from a child by his abuser ..she is still controlling him , she is a delusional she is in the wrong shes a sex predator, it's about her needs ..she is a monster ....she still thinks shes right ..poor man and his kids ..

[@kennadowning]

The way she was barking at him how a parent would a child "who's the boss! Who was the boss! Say it" sent chills down my spine. She's still victimizing him, gaslighting him into thinking this was all his idea and he was a consenting adult. It's horrific. This man was groomed and assaulted and is a victim.

[@liannadicaprio9798]

@@aliceB357she died 3 years ago, and their kids are grown adults now.

[@michelleaw1325]

Agreed😮

[@Yomomma-jf9iy]

"This man was groomed and assaulted and is a victim." No, he was not. You're "mentally challenged".

[@ybsyoungblacksocialites6857]

She was a really beautiful woman. That gave her the benefit of the doubt throughout most of this. But beautiful women, can be dark & twisted too.

[@Becky-w3m]

Odd. She was just very odd

[@bandgeekonflute]

"who's the boss"? The way she kept interrogating him clearly shows SHE was the boss. She took no responsibility for her actions. Completely gross and very predatory.

[@adityaonoae5323]

No she was just trying to make things clear .....

[@bimborard7486]

OMG I JUST GOT TO THAT PART BRUHH SHE WONT TAKE ANY ACCOUNTABILITY OMGGG HE IS ABOUT TO DIVORCE HERR that is so crazy she is psychotic she manipulated him like crazyy that is not love im sorry bby

[@bimborard7486]

Aditya Asoy scuseme he pursued her but that does not mean she did not make the choice to stay with him and have sex with him she is blaming him fully and not taking any accountability which is so wrong

[@lannyduong]

Agree

[@bobbymorane5166]

Although I am tolerant I do not understand what a 34 year old woman can look for in a relationship with a kid who is still only a child, it seems to me like sexual deviance .

[@R.Ï.O-RÏO]

As a 14 year old,we are NOT HAVING SEX and on top of that ,even if we are ,not with full grown adults in their mid thirties. This is so depressing and for the fact she was imprisoned for a few months the first time just shows that the law treats women predators differently compared to male predators

[@JanelleDankyi-Boateng]

As another 14 year old, this lady disgusts me to my core. It is a shame that she is parading her crime in this manner

[@HeadofSails]

98% of rapes against women in the UK do not end in a conviction... both men and women are being let down ...

[@Malcolmblacc2024]

Very well spoken

[@eugenelim5502]

@@R.Ï.O-RÏO Mary said "I have to give away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend."

[@XRPDADDY69]

I didn’t even have sex until 18 ffs 😂

[@lottiemae9195]

For people wondering why he stayed, he stayed for his children. His father was never around for him so he vowed to be there for his. The poor guy stuck through it for his kids.

[@Kinoable]

Poor man🥺 glad he love his children

[@haleyt3754]

Breaks my heart

[@morgemou]

Good father, now he can move on.

[@angelz_.4694]

Didn’t they get a divorce though? And he still saw his kids.

[@whateverheather655]

@@angelz_.4694 yes and right after that she was diagnosed with colon cancer and the last 2 months of her life he was at her bedside

[@whenmarketingcalls]

You don’t need to be an expert to read the discomfort in his body language

[@DarkScorpionPete98]

Yes.

[@meverly4133]

@@GS-kb3en He’s Filipino.

[@mistyblue1365]

@@meverly4133 he's samoan

[@JTScott1988]

@@GS-kb3en she died 2mo ago

[@JTScott1988]

In gis interview last month talkn bout her death he was DEVASTATE

[@healnaturallytv4948]

It's like she's blaming everything on him. He was the child she was the adult. She's not normal

[@viviangoularte2264]

F

[@MENACE-km6bd]

She's constantly gaslighting him. It's nauseating. Even as an adult, it's clear he's still being manipulated.

[@aalam5747]

That's what all pedos do

[@spamachuchan8824]

@@MENACE-km6bd I don't doubt your theory. Mostly because ever time that woman opens her mouth I want to bash my head into a wall, which is my bodys physical instinct to do when predators spout bull s#!t.

[@YamiNoPri]

She's horrible! Lying all the time. Pretty sure she's a narcissist

[@Claudia-vu6vb]

Her asking him over and over “Who was the boss back then“ is beyond ridiculous and scary.

[@really5453]

Yeah you know the teacher is the boss

[@eugenelim5502]

I gave away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend.

[@Malcolmblacc2024]

That genuinely made me uncomfortable

[@kcindc5539]

SHE has always been the boss, and she knows it.

[@mwenyasampa]

It's very upsetting.

[@LisaW509]

Vili’s face and body language in this interview clearly tell us that as an adult, he’s well aware of how effed up this relationship was.

[@merricat3025]

​@thevarietyshow7777 so you think s3x with 34 year old and 13 year old is okay? If you do I hope you are never alone with kids or responsible for their care

[@agirlnamedtomm940]

​@@vanniee_although I agree she's completely in the wrong, he might be acting this way during the interview just because he's uncomfortable sitting in front of many cameras being grilled about the relationship where he knows people disapprove. Just trying to be devils advocate.

[@taylorcavin9546]

He probably kept his mouth shut for the sake of his children. So sad. His childhood was just taken

[@asiadp]

*is

[@livelovely4681]

​@@thevarietyshow7777I think it's both. The relationship IS effed up and he is also made a spectacle.

[@millysmanifestations]

1 you slept with a child, 2 you cheated on your husband, 3 you abandoned your children, how do you not see it as wrong?

[@janetsmith8566]

When you’re nuts

[@pawcatt]

YES

[@juns597]

Exactly!

[@janetsmith8566]

@@alexandra6557 because of consequences to other people you’re committed to and are supposed to love. Being a grown up and choosing to be responsible and true to them in spite of your feelings/temptations. It’s called self control and ethics.

[@Subuzgreatest]

Remove alimony & child support if the spouse cheats. All this BS will end overnight.

[@pumpkinlover908]

why is she tryna put the blame on the guy like she wasn’t the adult

[@hennywaty2238]

EVIAN For FACE

[@eugenelim5502]

She said "I gave away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend"

[@channdreams911]

This is ridiculous, he isn't even looking at the camera, not answering questions. She is confrontational and clearly the boss in the relationship. He was groomed and is still being controlled by the looks of it.

[@Susan-x]

He looks miserable and hugely embarrassed when she is trying to defend what she done! He said himself ‘this is getting ridiculous’

[@willemjohan8440]

Exactly!

[@boujiebarbie3198]

I just can't imagine what his life was like being raised by his rapist. Also, now that he is completely free of her, wonder what he will do now.

[@seneca8046]

@@boujiebarbie3198 hopefully not what she did to him to someone else or their children. It’s a sick normalized cycle smh

[@farrah9792]

Literally...

[@deannekliene2673]

He doesnt seem " in love"...

[@BriaBarrows]

“Who was the boss” that part disgusted me. Honestly. How delusional. She abused him.

[@ashleyedwards6913]

She died

[@nevaehlumiere8019]

Yes even he said when she kept asking him that question, "this is getting weird". I was uncomfortable watching that scene. I wanted to tell her: please stop!!

[@charleneg.4053]

She is still abusing him. He’s under her control it seems.

[@BriaBarrows]

Ashley Edwards I heard

[@BriaBarrows]

Nevaeh Lumiere sis was delusional 😂😂

[@ruthkim5302]

he literally said he only married the teacher so that his children can have both parents under the same roof smh... sad

[@danielsaround5720]

He still smashing that tho

[@Qrayon]

Literally?

[@Coco-xw3wp]

@@danielsaround5720 Have have got to be a DUSTY! 🙄

[@bmooremoore4460]

@@danielsaround5720 She died . I think he was up until she got I'll though ..they were separated but he was taking care of her

[@sakurakou2009]

true she destroy his life , he come from broken home that why he didnt want his children to go through same thing as he did ..this woman is manipulating wouldnt be supprised if she had the children to trap him to be with her .

[@sophiashmia6587]

Update: couple was separated in this interview but not yet divorced. They divorced later in 2019 and Letourneau died in 2020 of colon cancer at age 58.

[@ayuma_arts8673]

Are you serious? This story made me experience a myriad of emotions, but the young man needs a lot of healing. My heart goes out to him.

[@TheErinBrownTV]

Sad

[@sppss617]

She went to Hell most likely. No joke. She lived a life shameless of the crimes and sins she's committed, probably up and until the end. Never repented of any of them. brazen. She can lie to her earthly judge, but will not be able to lie to THE JUDGE on the Great & White Throne.

[@tamelahunt7324]

She looked sick in this interview

[@kakolibaroi101]

Ohhh good…. He finally out of this abusive relationship…. I pray he heals and gets all the help he needs

[@suzygonzalez689]

She ruined his life, he came from a broken home and didn’t know any better. Poor guy

[@laurenmay2098]

I wonder where was the social services to take him away from her, like very far.

[@cn-pg3wx]

Poor man

[@sylviaruiz754]

@@laurenmay2098 Very true, sad but now I could see taken from his mom cuz she wasn't able to protect him from this woman. If it were a girl that age & taken advantage by a man & mom doing nothing, daughter would be taken by the system. No one was there to protect Villi.

[@rosemarybleackley208]

He was robbed of his future 😥

[@dianemccray718]

@@sylviaruiz754 THANK-YOU! YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!

[@aubreymotshweneng8055]

This woman is sick. The guy is still a bit confused till this day

[@stn7172]

@@Valeriemcgilvrey what happen to her?

[@chantelle5349]

@@stn7172 She died of cancer

[@lisamarie4966]

She is making excuses for her horrible behavior. What a sicko.

[@thembimadison811]

The Ben10's:Started way back!!

[@jesterperez5152]

Yeah he said, "was it right? Was it wrong? I dont know"

[@bigsissenpai]

Notice that even in adulthood, she still talks to him like he's a child...

[@sophiajoyceferry7150]

Yes she definitely does.

[@internetuser7763]

"Who was the boss?"

[@awestavalentina4454]

Yes!!! 🤯🤯

[@SpitFireLocknKey]

That literally told me all I needed to know. She had total control the entire time. He is extremely passive and I am HEARTBROKEN for him.

[@mariascreven1433]

Exactly!!!

[@BiancaCornish]

When she says who is the boss you can tell that he is disgusted by her

[@gratefulgrapefruit2290]

At 26:40 in the video you can see one of their kids feels the same way

[@eugenelim5502]

@@BiancaCornish Mary said "I have to give away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend."

[@stiras1]

This woman is insane. The fact that she can't even acknowledge that it was wrong speaks volumes.

[@carlgharis7948]

Exactly she says i didn't know having sex with a 12 year old was illegal how come nobody told me that um ::🙄. That's as if somebody intentionally drove though a red light caused an accident and saying but I didn't know that if the traffic light was red that it meant I was sapose to stop my car how come nobody told me that. Really really. Unless you've been living in an unconcated trib deep in the Amazon all your life and have never been exposed to modern society you should know that.

[@kelly2393]

Was* she died 3 years ago

[@sunoverla11]

​@kelly2393 yep she died July, 2020

[@luvbuggrr9245]

She knew it was wrong, she was acting dumb!

[@AsifAli-od1cf]

​@@kelly2393That's sad because her bones need to broken in a prison cell like other PDF files.

[@joe522]

So many red flags with this story. They let the kid down.

[@TheLAKERGIRL87]

I agree

[@maileangel3194]

Miss. Gomez cutyoppoff bruuhhhh that’s not even the point 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@eraliaa3219]

@KZbin Police You disgust me. Not all males do this. And this was a BOY when she was manipulating him to have sex. And also, there are many young male victims to just as terrible sex abuses. The irony that you mention sexism.

[@anunez3450]

I see him turn back to a child when he sits next to her but when he is interviewed by himself he looks like a man....that women is awful.

[@marieromero291]

Definitely right.

[@tyrelt6082]

Very good observation... I noticed that too... She's the perpetrator

[@TheAlphaOmega78]

Craziness...

[@DrineThePoet]

For sure

[@PURPLEHUMAN-sr8io]

imagine if this was reversed gender

[@tricki_nicki]

So as a teacher, you had no idea you were committing a crime? That it is illegal to HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD? You had no clue? BULLS***. She knew. She 1000% knew.

[@mariellaacardoso]

of course she knew! when the police caught them in the car, they said vili was eighteen. they lied his age because she KNEW.

[@laineyturner3785]

She was a wife and mother of FOUR children and says he was the boss? She should’ve gone from prison straight to the psych ward.

[@wanderlust3753]

So true, it’s good that the journalist is saying to her “But why didn’t you think of your four kids? It must have been terrible for them!”. What really annoys me about her is that she complains that she was never given the benefit of the doubt. She is acting like a poor victim, but all adults in their right mind (also the ones not working with children) know that sex with teenagers is again the law

[@wanderlust3753]

I mean against the law

[@GeronimoSanchez-q2f]

to the person the make this comment are you perfect

[@wanderlust3753]

No, I’m not perfect. But I think that was she did was terribly wrong and she never acknowledged that

[@nomaphelomyataza737]

She really looks unstable 😢

[@Automalice]

This man looked SO UNCOMFORTABLE when being asked over and over again who the boss was. I feel so bad for him. He got trapped in this ‘relationship’

[@nessymoyo6762]

She asked him 13 times, "...who is the boss?..."

[@saida817]

He got trapped really bad. The fact how she kept asking who’s the boss gave the answer who is the boss

[@trevorthetherapist4200]

I can absolutely see where therapy would be beneficial in this conversation. She is trying to change the power dynamics, but she should not even have been a teacher from a psychological perspective.

[@crystalaustralia]

The way she said "character flaw" is chilling. I feel for her eldest four children and hope they are close to their father.

[@crystalaustralia]

A tiny bit sad to read that Mary has passed, but wonderful to learn Vili ended the relationship before that.

[@miyagiiiii888]

It’s crazy how manipulative she is. She’s not owning up to her actions at all, she’s putting it all on him. How gross

[@linanicolia1363]

She likely suffered from some deeply rooted emotional issues. The sexual attraction she felt for Vili did not help that condition. It likely complicated it. I expect they tried their best to make a normal home for their daughters. They are smart and beautiful. Respect them ! no more blaming as it is , water under the bridge.

[@kevinjohnson7418]

@@linanicolia1363 oh sure. You also are not making her pedophilia something she is responsible for. No judging ? So of this was a man with a 12 year old girl , you would say the same ? Sick

[@danni8037]

lina nicolia you are truly disgusting for sympathising with this child abuser

[@stjohnbaby]

Probably a narrcissist

[@carlasousa4360]

Meraki S but why put it all on her. Come on he was in with her to. So why blame it all on her just bcs your 12 does not mean anything Kids are bad to. Not taking her side but what people don’t understand is that it takes 2 to tango

[@h3rbans0ul]

this woman is completely sick man she shouldve stayed in jail.

[@AwesomeTrini]

She still talking to him like a child. "Who was the boss" This woman is totally delusional.

[@AM-ci3gi]

😢

[@elizabethpeguero6749]

She’s soooo delusional omgggg 😩

[@tinkweedify]

She was pretty much coaching him trying to get him to say something

[@georgina-a]

I had to pause the video and walk away at that point... She's speaking to him like he's a child, whilst simultaneously trying to get him to take all the responsibility. The way she was trying to control him and coerce him into lying to cover for her was disgraceful. He seems smart enough to see through it now, though. I wonder if, once the kids leave home, he will, too. I wouldn't want to leave kids alone with her, either, so I can see why he stayed. She can deny all she likes, but she's a scheming, manipulative sex offender. She belongs in a cell.

[@McFulia]

Georgina A he did leave her and she died a few days before this was posted. Cancer. Sadly, I was hoping she’d get something worse. Hopefully he’s free now.

[@baadams]

You can tell she’s not mentally solid. To be in love with a 13 year old in your mid 30’s is very telling of a person’s emotional maturity. And then to insinuate he was the boss over that relationship-again, at the age of 13-is insane.

[@Capsacininthebasin]

When she was literally his teacher. Teachers have all the power esp back then.

[@isyspamela]

She sounds insane, in this interview she looks like she's all not there..

[@Alwayzblessed36]

Something was definitely off

[@thelovelyjerald]

I'm trying to understand what a preteen is doing in the bed that got u pregnant twice

[@Yomomma-jf9iy]

Donesn't matter. Men will still "tap that". She cound be unconscious or postmortem, and it wouldn't make a difference.

[@tinyiko2949]

This women still doesnt see anything wrong. This guy was a child and she was a mom to four kids yet blaming it on immaturity. This is pure psychological control and manipulation

[@bimborard7486]

i wonder how old her son was when she did this...

[@ma.jesulitaguiang9881]

@@bimborard7486 I think older than billy

[@rileycoyote8275]

@@ma.jesulitaguiang9881*Villi

[@sharonmcduffiealabama3928]

She's still at it now. Billy looks miserable. She is still stealing his youth. Just think when his 60? Run now Billy run now! Lol

[@belbobelle603]

Sharon Alabama She has died of cancer a couple of months ago

[@lilygalorest]

At TWELVE he's barely hit puberty! How tf can she see him as anything other than a child! 😡😡

[@laurawise6638]

He looks at her like she’s a liar. He doesn’t seemed amused as much as she does. She definitely has some mental issues to find a 12 year old boy attractive!!!!!!

[@jessicaurbina4246]

I agree totally!

[@feefeefoofoo123]

I look at my son who is 10 and I feel rage. I would be in prison if it was my boy or my daughter...

[@friendlyannyorong5466]

Hahahha true enough! She's disgusting!

[@TheViol3nTKitteN]

They say it started at 12 but she knew him since he was 8. I think it started much earlier.

[@Susan-x]

I agree when she’s shouting WHOS THE BOSS he’s dying to say.... YOU!

[@MadisonPettway_]

She still talks to him like she is his teacher and he is her student. She’s condescending and controlling

[@Trypyyyy]

She died

[@ElGibby]

So true! The way she spoke to him made me physically cringe at several points.

[@ahossi3837]

right!! also at 13.36 u can hear the way she "communicates" with the interviewer when she does`nt like his point.

[@kittylemeu]

She definitely had narcissistic personality disorder. What a horrible person. I don't know how anyone tolerated her. But I guess they weren't really seeing who she was.

[@yoanapeycheva9499]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@soniadiaz530]

He looks so uncomfortable and confused while she's talking during this interview.

[@themirrorsofmymind]

A few times I thought he looked quite pissed...

[@brownboutique8446]

She died of Cancer last month. Died on July 6, 2020.

[@Ashley-on6pt]

@@brownboutique8446 you've literally wrote those same comment...on every comment. WE GET IT! Also, it was widely broadcasted🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@abeltesfaye_]

@@brownboutique8446 Haha he divorced her in 2019 and the next year she dies. I'm sorry but she's a horrible human being and while I wouldn't wish this on her, it's satisfying to know Vili can now continue with *HIS journey. Praying for him.

[@coletteroyer5353]

She is so scary. I can’t imagine living with that woman. The denial and lack of accountability is actually wild.

[@TaraKandece]

She NEVER let's him talk. Always interrupting him. That's a red flag.

[@U311.61]

Here whole being is a red flag.

[@brownisrunderratedbeautifu9460]

I mean the pedophelia was a bigger red flag but ok

[@U311.61]

@@brownisrunderratedbeautifu9460 lmfao exactly. Like, wtf

[@omgomg382]

She’s impulsive and controlling beyond disbelief

[@deepconvos1]

@@brownisrunderratedbeautifu9460 🤣🤣🤣

[@MBTIology]

For his parents to not get involved shows how rough his childhood truly was

[@qhoulss]

His mother absolutely got involved, but it was kept secret from her until she was pregnant. He was so determined to be a father, his mother conceded to helping him

[@AlbAy537]

Because she was white.

[@FiorellaRdV]

Wtf

[@Butterfly22593]

@@qhoulss His Mother was an idiot. Her 12 year old son was hanging out at night with his teacher, and she didn't think anything inappropriate was going on?

[@AntonL1994]

@@Butterfly22593The cops didn’t give her the whole picture, they clumsily left out details

[@lilybatch2704]

Notice he doesn't agree to anything she says. Or even give her eye contact. Poor bloke :(

[@Will-nb8qk]

I think the relationship was lost. They separated in 2019 it seems.

[@wolsk0vic]

He flinched so hard at 30:05

[@sammyo2583]

Will she passed away in July. And they were divorced in 2017

[@Will-nb8qk]

Sammy O : unless wiki is wrong I guess you maybe correct. Yes I did know she passed away like 2 weeks ago or last week from colon cancer or something.

[@marycooleytaylor]

God has the last word.

[@taniellpeterson3803]

You can tell he sees her for who she is now...

[@apostateturtle1960]

The saddest part of this whole video for me was that Villie married her because he wanted to give his kids the stability he never had. Like maybe if he'd had stability, he wouldn't have been singled out by a teacher to be chronically molested. The fact that he was so dedicated to being a good dad even after everything he'd been through, shows that he must have been a darned good kid, and probably would have really gone far in life if he hadn't fallen victim to an absolute sociopath.

[@ellegaunt]

Sociopath is the word.

[@BabyFaceAshli]

SO damn true.

[@tunabean2109]

@David-yh7upanyone in their right mind can see, yes, they are right! What wrong with you?

[@CrystalDorsey-g2j]

Totally agree

[@1stYoutubeHandle]

It must have been a very lonely road for him, especially when his own children love his abuser so much. I found interviews of their children praising that p3d0 c**t a good mother, which is really horrifying because he didn’t want his children grown up in a broken home like him, so he has to play it off with his rap1st, and in return, his children love his rap1st so much. The whole thing is like the people you love, siding with the creep that r@ped you, but you can’t even complain about it. Horrifying is all I can say. My heart breaks for him, and I hope he can get the help he needs.

[@leenuhh_]

She said she was pursued.....by a child and didn't reject him. The fact she was also married and had children before him too is insane. She groomed him and wasted his youth. Imagine if their daughters were 12 / 13 years and a predator had their eyes set on them. It's wrong, there's no right.

[@rachybaby72]

She doesn't see the irony of her taking the padding out of her girls' bras. If there's nothing to protect them from, why did she do that???

[@dccruz89]

All she tried it was manipulated everyone... and she victimized over her acts...

[@lilyannarose]

Gross, total abuse

[@carlgharis7948]

​@@lilyannaroseand her husband divorced packed up the kids and he's now a baggage handler in Anchorage

[@Okbye654]

Pursued?? By a 12 yr old seriously you’re a 42yr old woman

[@celiahardwick1246]

Bless his heart. He said he is 35 years old and he could never date a 13 year old. He's eyes and demeanor expresses regret.

[@halimomoremoney1292]

yeah

[@dreaj1077]

Kinda glad she died. That's the only way he could get away from her.

[@sallymander8292]

He did not want to be with her forever. She was stalking him.

[@sami.rodallegas]

@@dreaj1077 she died??? that’s a relief

[@janayjenkins3625]

Sami Rodallegas she died July 6th 2020

[@firlin.5978]

The way she victimizes herself and romanticizes the situation is craaaazy

[@Djeucbess]

The lack of self awareness of this narcissistic woman is frightening. Not only did she cheat on her husband, she groomed a child and mentally and emotionally abused him.

[@florindareynoso4447]

Exactly what she did. She is a petifier

[@FEWGEE1]

And she also claimed that she had no idea having sex with a 12 year old wss illegal at the time.

[@TJ-Judge]

And as a 35 year old man, her victim's advice to his younger self is: "dont do it" 😔 poor guy... she stole so much from him and she feels no shame

[@eb3043]

Exactly!!

[@IsabelBam]

Yrs. And she abandoned her own children. She left them with their dad and ran away. 😢

[@ayanamelecio4657]

He literally hates her, his silence was LOUD

[@joselamers7964]

excactly , she is dominant and manipulative , he never have a change to grow as a boy to a adult man , all the time he stay that little boy he was back than I hope he get the help , to heal and be by good people ,because I think he,s instable because of all this ,God put his hands on it in 2020 ,so he can be free again ,God is good all the time ,becuse what happend was from the other side,bless him and ll the children and ex husband❤

[@melwilson4171]

He looks miserable. Just staring off into space the whole time. This man is so traumatized. Makes me want to cry.

[@BrooklynAlien]

That's what I saw too.

[@Itsreallynia]

@@mr.gaming6277 lmfao

[@BrooklynAlien]

Theyey were in the middle of a divorce here. They must have done the interview for the money. But they did stay friends after they separated and he was there for her when she got sick and passed away.

[@AceBallFury]

Bro if a guy impregnated a 13 year old girl he’d be lynched on site.

[@HCSRBLX]

Yeah we should lynch both regardless of gender

[@TiaNichole17]

What disgust me is that she was still able to get work!

[@TiaNichole17]

@@therenia22 I think people sometimes sees teenagers as grown adults and they are not adults.

[@noguruespanol]

@@TiaNichole17 That too in the same court where she was convicted!!!🧐

[@bossqueenStar]

Exactly!

[@tiffanyrobinson2158]

He did it for his girls and married that rapist it heartbreaking nobody shouldnt have to go threw this

[@trishdadish21]

One of the most sickening parts of this story was her son was 11 yrs old when she ra.pe.d 12 yr old Vili. That’s another level of deranged delusion. The trauma those 4 kids went through, I can’t imagine. Knowing your mother did this not once but twice, got pregnant twice, then married a boy one year older then you, making him your stepdad. Gross, just gross! Both fathers shouldn’t have let her near any of those children again.

[@jessicaabbassi1140]

Couldn’t agree more. It’s sickening.

[@ShiLoveee]

Yea I don’t understand why the interviewer didn’t ask her about that piece of it? Like how do you feel knowing your son is basically the same age? What if he dated a woman your age and had control over him? How do you feel knowing you’re a step dad to her children who one of which is your age? How do you feel knowing she had a husband and kids? Etc. Does anyone know if she raised the other kids? And if the victim was around her children?

[@Sarit473]

Omg.. disgusting

[@lisabrightly]

A therapist might say she had to find someone else's child to take out her aggressions on otherwise she may have ended up abusing her own child who she was unnaturally attracted to.

[@frenchieoverlord5159]

​@@lisabrightlyForensic psychologist here, I dont believe it was predatory instincts from Mary thats the culprit. Her former husband treated her poorly and they practiced an intense form of christianity. Villi gave her attention and made her feel like a woman again sum how. She seen him as a man not a child which is where her obvious stunted mental capacity is apparent. She wasn't attracted to her own children or children in general. Villi also wasnt taught how to properly treat "authority" figures. In my humble professional opinion I am comfortable labeling them both as some creeps 😂 😂

[@patriciabuuck5277]

She is narcissistic, she is his abuser. He looks so sad and lost

[@Sky-wr5np]

My heart hurts, seeing his eyes! I can see, he knows it was wrong and she should have never, done what she did. I pray he finds true happiness! I can see, he loves his children and his sacrifice was for them!

[@Universitas_Salvat]

she was because she died already.

[@AhChoua]

Yeah he looks so broken

[@reshvergarcia2705]

@@Universitas_Salvat really??

[@blayzertrayl8929]

The thing with this case is ...the media is surprised this relationship lasted for the couple decades that it did. When it should have fallen apart and been a story of abuse where he played the victim. It simply didn't work out that way. So media are doing what they do. they are picking holes in it. Casting a negative light because they can't afford to show it positively. if it was any other couple the editors wouldn't have highlighted the little spat they had on camera. It's a hit piece. But for all intents and purposes this relationship survived the long haul.

[@MJ31579]

This lady is crazy - she talks like she's a victom "Should I have run from him?". He's a student you are 35. Wtf. What running is there?

[@ayubestica1564]

i thought the same!! she has no moral code, she should be the one who stop it and yell at the boy that that is inapropriate, but NO. She's so flattered that a 12 years old really want to touch her body. GROSS!!!

[@PushPastMyLimits]

Honestly when I was 12 years old I was pretty strong, that 7th grade right? Meh ama just sleep now

[@florferrufino9180]

I don’t think he started

[@angelagradinariu7020]

She passed in 2020 colon cancer 58. I think move forward for the kids. They are innocent and I pray their dad will teach them the right way and protect them. Very sad.

[@JJ-ql8yc]

She still doesn’t realize that what she did has completely ruined his life. Let’s be real here, if he didn’t get her pregnant with 2 beautiful daughters, he would not be with her now.

[@leannewilson6042]

I totally agree, he stayed for his daughter's.

[@wythemonster5646]

She knows. She doesn’t want to be wrong.

[@kristinewoodall6979]

we

[@Fallenmichael81]

But he married her

[@Dark666Butterfly]

Man, the dad seems the same age as his daughters.

[@nitabby]

the lack of accountability from her is actually insane…she went to prison for it and still denies doing anything wrong. disgusting.

[@3rdDegreeTVLLC]

Yea she’s the definition of insanity

[@visionbishop9517]

I'd use the term illegal instead of "wrong",only because what she did isn't considered wrong in some places. In Ohio and adult can sleep with a 13 year old if they are married,16 if they aren't married. Marry had Jesus at 12 while Joseph was 30 something. The wrongness for me is her being his teacher and married. The illegal part is beyond questioning however. I'll leave the right wrong for God to decide,it's illegal as hell though.

[@amorderose]

​@visionbishop9517 Do you really need God to tell you that this is wrong? That's sad. Whether he was 12 or 13, a CHILD cannot give consent. The fact that she said she was "pursued" turned my stomach. Any sane adult cannot be pursued by a child. She's a rapist. She groomed him, and it's heartbreaking and sickening. He still didn't realize that what happened to him was wrong!!

[@DavidS-wm9ud]

Very typical behavior of an "anxious avoidant" narcissistic individual I would suggest, maybe with a touch of bipolar even. I just hope that Vili and the girls are staying strong, as I'm sure even comments such as my own could well be beyond uncomfortable. I believe as a society we need to stop with our blatant sexism and start treating ALL humans as humans. Fair is fair. Wrong is wrong. This only further highlights how utterly broken our judicial system is in so many countries.

[@carlgharis7948]

@Rose-yc2tl and she's saying she didn't know it was illegal. Um you should know full well it's illegal to have sex with a 12 year old when you yourself are 30 something years old. That's like intentionally driving through a red light resulting in a traffic accident. Then you say oh I didn't know that when the traffic light was red it meant I was sapose to stop the car. Really really!!!!! In both examples how do you not know that

[@shaih_bby]

Mary makes me so angry, she sees no wrong in what she did. It’s sickening and very disturbing. The judge should have giving her a longer sentence because she clearly hasn’t realize what she did.

[@torriebrown9607]

You are so RIGHT.

[@zacwoods]

This is female privilege. It exists in society just as male privilege does. Cases like this need to wake people up to that fact that both Men and Women are unfortunately not treated equally and in 99% of cases on gender benefits while the other suffers

[@TheCandiceWang]

Well she died 9 months ago... So there's that....... Shes gone. She can't serve any more time. I don't know if any further prison would help alter her mental state. She clearly was not in her right mind can't u see that?? She needed psychiatric help.

[@zacwoods]

@@TheCandiceWang the point is that if this was an older Man doing this to s young teenage girl the outcome would have been VERY different. Its a double standard a lot of women dont want to acknowledge so when we as Men SEE a Woman who gets it like the op, we respect that.

[@tushar28412]

That's the American wayy

[@Jenny.MG82]

3:57 she's a predator and still gaslighting him

[@gogochow7525]

I came to the comment section for this comment!

[@winonapurple7957]

he looks like he is disgusted by her and every time she talks he looks so uncomfortable

[@edennoel8770]

I was now about to say that

[@edennoel8770]

Why are they even married ???

[@lovingnanon387]

That’s what I see

[@mariotito3722]

@@edennoel8770 they eventually split prior to her death, The boy was out of work

[@jaslene816]

@@edennoel8770 They divorced a couple years ago supposedly because they were no longer intimate and slept in separate rooms. She eventually died last summer.

[@maymyatnoe662]

Villy: “Was it right? Was it wrong?..I-Don’t-Know” A true example of a victim right there.

[@lex38380]

it’s sad.. he literally has no idea. the fact that she was probably doing this to him his whole life disturbs tf outta me. i hope he finally found peace now that she’s gone.

[@Thegeminiprincesss]

It’s sad sad

[@AlSpice]

Oh, he knows it was wrong. As an abuse survivor, I can almost guarantee he has figured it out but he has to be in denial bc his whole life has been built around that woman

[@Elena-er7ol]

Totally agree

[@n3rds3y3vi3w]

I guess you missed the part where he says he would advise another 12 year old boy to “not do it” if he was in the same situation. And also says now that he’s the age she was when they met, he couldn’t see himself doing the same to a 12 year old girl. He’s obviously figured out how wrong it is, as a 35 year old man with kids of his own.

[@taraalan1131]

She’s still bullying him... “ Who was the boss ?” over and over . He’s trapped and he looks trapped.

[@memi8770]

I am a teacher and this is a « technique » we use with children who are in opposition. Ultimatly, they will do what you ask them. In french we call it « la technique du disque brisé » or the broken disq if i say, to repeat the exact thing with the exact flow. The fact that she is still act like he is her student is very disturbing.

[@nisreen1982]

Some people said she died last year in the comments. He is free if it’s true.

[@jaycortez969]

I was a male trapped in a female's body for 8 months!🤷‍♂️

[@JH-ej2yt]

@@memi8770 she is what she is. She wants to see him as her student

[@lolafashola4318]

I feel terrible for him, I know he probably wants to leave.

[@anonymouslyawesomeO_o]

“Who’s the boss” definitely not the 13 year old CHILD. Wtf is WRONG WITH THAT LADY???

[@lucyvasquez3237]

you can notice he is more open and expresses himself to the fullest when she's not there. i feel so awful for him :/

[@adrianaruiz8043]

I notice too

[@Lucevy]

I notice that too.

[@yazzyy0312]

Right, it’s so cringy ! He has no idea because it’s all he’s known :/ and he’s a victim for sure

[@Catsss1017]

She ruined his whole life. He looks miserable he only stayed for the kids you can tell.

[@veef.moraless3020]

I noticed that too&the hate he has for her is all over his face:/.

[@RedTunaRoll]

This is so gross. If she were a man she’d be locked up for life.

[@JP-qx2wb]

I would have torn her into pieces if that was my son .

[@sammihebert6493]

Unfortunately most pedofiles do less time in prison than you could believe and even for multiple offenses...it’s kinda like a thing now that ppl are starting to realize and uproar against

[@klaiellordez2054]

Wrong! Men do not get locked up for very long.

[@moeglos]

A man got 107 years for impregnating a 10 year old year. Definitely a double standard

@@moeglos that Lucky b@$tard witnessed the pleasures of Nirvana.

[@goldenauraesthetics3995]

I love how she’s getting dragged by the reporter and showing her true colors

[@mishimarsh5024]

Bloodclaat witch dis kmt

[@TitanicHorseRacingLover]

This woman's sense of entitlement mad me so sick

[@bluetulip9297]

I feel so bad for Villi, their kids, HER other kids and her ex husband- basically everyone who is a victim except her.

[@vireshsurat]

She died .she free of her own mind too .he be fine too now

[@kalitheamare]

Blue Tulip, Much agreed. Look at us, here in France. He was 14, she was his teacher, in her thirties, married with kids. They now run the country. Decadent, shameful and sinful, wrong on all counts and on all possible levels.

[@lian2454]

.I had All that fear. in second crushing my body. knowing i live in the same world that kind of person lived in it too

[@naomibeery8098]

Poor kid...she seems exhausting. And he thought it was something to be proud of.

[@glendalynda6587]

@@vireshsurat no, she was blaming Villi for getting molested by her being his teacher. He is free from her.

[@gabrielaelia1707]

she's making it seem as if he initiated it but she's the adult it's her job to tell him it isn't right.

[@MissReen]

Exactly and not encourage him

[@eugenelim5502]

@@gabrielaelia1707 Mary said "I have to give away my 4 children for adoptions because I love my boyfriend."

[@tiffanysteadman7822]

It's apparent now, that he is the age she was when she molested him, he knows how wrong she was. This is terrifying. I feel so sorry for him.

[@wmmv2019]

🥲😭

[@psychicrenegade]

He divorced her...finally! Poor guy. I hope he can move on and find true love with someone his own age.

[@wmmv2019]

@@psychicrenegade He's definitely a great guy. I'm sure he'll meet someone special..he deserves it. Anyway, he went back to care for her coz she had cancer. RIP 🙏 she's the mother of his 2 children for what it worth.

[@Repentance79]

Good thing Civilization applied our moral values to the Law to recognize minors (appropriate age) for sexual activities and protect them from Adults with immatured brain or abnormal desires for that matter.....otherwise, this case would just easily fall under that saying "the heart wants what it wants" ... and there wouldn't be anything wrong with it!! It's kind of sad and scary but it's true in most cases... the heart wants what it wants!

[@effygram8159]

Imagine if it was a MAN doing that with a girl. The whole town would have been in flames....

[@bananascoaster1243]

I know she's passed away, but I find this interview chilling in terms of her persona. She assaulted a child and used that leverage to continue to be with him.

[@cleo6958]

So a 13 year old says he's I love with you and you think you've found a soulmate? What a weirdo

[@cleo6958]

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 your comment is irrelevant because it was a child and an adult should know better, kids say some ridiculous things and it was probably for a joke with his mates, the weirdo is this woman who was supposed to teach and protect her students instead she took advantage of that and manipulated him, it's illegal

[@east1845]

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 trust me, a bunch of teens. And it's honestly so disgusting hearing the things they say about the teacher.

[@topshelfguwop]

@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 He was a fucking kid

[@Mariemarie-uw7id]

She was obvious crazy and a predator. I say that as someone who fell in love with a 16 year old boy, I waited until he was an adult thats what you do if you actually loves someone. We are now both in our 20’s

[@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234]

@@east1845 Umm, do they actually do those things... NO

[@babylove15cute]

I wish they interviewed them separately the whole time.

[@ParisVs.P-AIR]

Me too. But there would have been a huge problem.

[@shakirah.r]

YESSS!

[@KB-eb3fi]

25:30 was a part and there he admits why he married her

[@julyj8151]

He can now today.

[@luciferalpha3080]

Even now you could see that she is still manipulating him especially during that awkward "Who was the boss?" moment. Wtf.

[@ConTroll87]

He was a kid... he can only be boss if you let him be...

[@gloriagutierrez8796]

She died a few months ago of cancer.

[@757BABY22]

Foreallk

[@lostinthecloud_]

@@gloriagutierrez8796 Is that true?

[@MzPrettyDimplez]

They divorced and she died a few months ago

[@CovertOps1]

What about her other 4 children. She conveniently forgets them.

[@deborahharris4035]

She controlled the interview and you can see how uncomfortable he is and how wrong all of this was

[@deweymcdaniel3344]

He didn't once say he loved her. He didn't once say he just couldn't stop or control himself. Almost every time she spoke his brow was furrowed when he looked at her or, even more telling, he would look away or worse, cast his eyes downward. His body language speaks volumes.

[@tashabennor6209]

Yesss. I couldn't stop watching his body language, NOTHING that he showed was ANYTHING that showed "love" towards her. I believe, in his heart and mind, he is still a trapped little boy in a desperate situation that nobody can pull him from. He needs some serious therapy and to get a life of his own back. 11min-- "WHO WAS THE BOSS?!!!" BISSH-- YOU WERE. AND YOU DESTROYED A LITTLE BOY. 🤦😭😭😭💔

[@samsamcupcakes6476]

He did say that he married for his daughters. I guess we cannot judge... They are the two who know what was going on after he became an adult... Before that, she was judged twice and paid for her wrong doing...

[@saltuugatiti7563]

That woman is crazy and disgusting.

[@CountryKindOfCrazy]

This guys facial reactions say it all. It’s like this interview helped him realize he was abused, used, manipulated, and she’s truly sick and disturbed.

[@neverlandse9914]

I’m not sure if he does realize. Not completely. They were divorced but he was still there at her bedside when she died last year. So maybe he realized but she was just so manipulative and alluring that he couldn’t stay away from her.

[@CountryKindOfCrazy]

Neverlandse or he stayed because of his children. Either way, she is gone now and he can have a life of his choosing.

[@Cocochantelle]

@@neverlandse9914 that’s what abuse does. You have awareness but you still have an emotional tie and in times of death, it’s so final. I bet he doesn’t regret being there in her last days. This is also the mother of his children. His kids love her too

[@rosemarypaulus3518]

What a sick individual. She's still proud of what she'd done.

[@CapreDiem86]

She died, he is free now

[@squaiyo2589]

Ong when she went “who was the boss?” and wouldn’t let go. Her tone, her trying to force an answer out of him like he’s a child to this day. It shows so much about her as a person…

[@wallymccurls9800]

We need to protect our children from teachers like her.

[@jamesdean9943]

I’ve seen 60 year old men go to south east Asia and marry 19 and 20 year old women. Yes they are adults, although I personally feel you are robbing someone’s younger years. At 30 you change at 40 you change and so on.

[@scorpioninpink]

@@jamesdean9943 And these women marry westerners because of their economic situation too. Not out of love and Old Westerners exploit this.

[@Repentance79]

she had a brain of a kid, just smart enough to be a teacher. or she was just too bored at home she'd take whatever came along and it just happened to be a little boy. that's how scary boredom is! 😑

[@shannonraby5547]

🤯🤯 she is so delusional it's scary. I'm just like "WTF?!?

[@shannonraby5547]

Yeah he was a little boy at the time!!!!

[@thalial768]

I was so uncomfortable when she kept asking “who was the boss” she’s a sick person and you can tell she would manipulate him.

[@thematic3893]

“Whose the boss!!!! 🤨”

[@kalel311superman9]

i feel the same way when mary said that

[@eleanoraquitaine2966]

At a minimum, she was a narcissist without a conscience. Her sweet cute little girl looks belied the evil within.

[@Thegeminiprincesss]

Literally

[@segagirladventurespico]

Me to lol

[@marleenpeeters7355]

You can clearly see the shame he feels when she talks. He cannot even talk for himself and she puts everything on him. Even if he wanted a (sexual) relationship, he is not able to think right at that age. He is brainwashed...

[@DebbieBlatt0816]

They separated, and she died of cancer with him by her side.

[@blacklight310]

@@DebbieBlatt0816 he probably just felt bad

[@pradeepmdwp1842]

What about universal fascination for young and beautiful teacher by yong boys and vice versa? Yeah but still he was only 12. 🙄🤔 But it still can be termed as different or unexplained version of Oedipus complex.

[@elaine3355]

He probably felt the way a man feels when he loses his mother😟

[@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457]

He wasn't completely brainwashed...he knew what he was doing , he made that choice

[@rozannmoake8146]

She says if anyone knows her they would know that she wouldn’t have done those things if she knew it was illegal, then she gets out of jail and goes straight back to him OBVIOUSLY KNOWING that it was illegal… Wtf

[@heppu_]

She robbed him of his childhood, youth and adulthood. I feel so much for him 🥺

[@JP-ks7ey]

i know there still side affects from what she did there's no curing that, but hopefully with them no longer together he can have a normal relationship with someone

[@dotee100]

He looks so sad and unhappy I feel for him

[@letoannang3145]

She is still holding him hostage, physically n mentally.

[@justinmoore3217]

More youth and adulthood

[@celtgirl7791]

Yeah I agree she stole his childhood and yet even after they split up he helped care for her when she was dying!! I just hope he can find happiness in life the only good that came of their relationship was their beautiful daughters.

[@rawburtmartinez]

The way she tries to control the narrative is extremely unsettling. From her mannerisms, you can tell she's very off.

[@glo391]

Exactly… she’s tweaked…

[@Tia96793]

She really said ‘if someone knew Mary back then and told me there was a Law that says…’ - like hello ! As a teacher you are trained to safeguard and I am not sure about back then but I am sure they were atleast told that if that sort of thing was to happen, they would be sanctioned.

[@debbieabraham-glasgow4052]

He doesnt look happy at all...he isnt even saying anything. She looks like his grandmother😬

[@Omgcutetings]

You can tell in his eyes, he is broken and lost

[@MsSopla]

I am sorry for that men. He said that he did it for his family but I bet he want to leave her - she souds like a crazy lady

[@jamjohn1802]

@@MsSopla He also stated that his advice to himself as a 13 yr old would have been "DON'T DO IT!!! Wow, she totally ruined his life! If I were his mother, she would not be doing this interview at all, neither would her fugly a** had the chance to bear any children for him! PERIOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!

[@pamdethawood6238]

She's old evil devil nasty..she's dried up.telling him and provoking him what to say..until today..she's an adult who goes into is head and control him mentally and perverted him ..look at him. ..she's a dog .what happened to her husband and 4 kids..why is she out of prison.

[@rmg8717]

Who was the boss? Who was the boss?! What a psycho...