Mary of Teck: A Duty to the Crown

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Timestamps! 0:00 Intro 0:44 Early Years 3:21 Proposal 5:08 Marriage 7:24 Tragedy 8:48 War 10:51 Jubilee 12:37 Scandal Thank you for watching my latest video 🙏🏻 Did you miss this? Charlotte Of Mecklenburg Strelitz: A Marriage of Madness kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJKUpYiarLqbpLM See you again soon, Jon 🤴🏻

[@annfisher3316]

Oh my did l make a blunder! On your preview post l attributed personality attributes to Queen Mary and l was confusing her with Alexandra of Denmark. Oopsie!

[@judylloyd7901]

At 13:45 the narrator said that Edward and Wallis lived in America for the rest of their lives, but according to documentaries, and articles I've read, they lived most of the rest of their lives in France, with Edward dying in Paris. They lived in France from their marriage in 1937, for two years. During WW2 Edward was made liaison officer to France before becoming Governor of the Bahamas in West Indies. In 1945 the couple moved back to France where they lived together until Edward's death in 1972. Wallis died in 1986. Both were buried at Frogmore, in the grounds of Windsor Castle.

[@darleenhumphrey7461]

Thank you. Mary of reck is very interesting

[@judymotto1970]

I'm watching your channel again today. .love it !💯🍿💙

[@maryodonnell8124]

Yes

[@ZalthorAndNoggin]

A very good video portrait of Mary of Teck. One very small inaccuracy: After the abdication, her son David and his bride Wallis did not live in America. While they visited frequently, in fact they lived in a chateau called Villa Windsor just outside Paris, in France.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks for watching, much appreciated 😊

[@ednakelley814]

I caught that too. They both lived and died in France.

[@tobyrose6906]

In Paris.

[@olenatty]

Actually, I think they lived in New York at the Waldorf Astoria for a while.

[@jaanasiren4558]

Um... I'm troubled by the info about Prince John. Many inaccuracies, including his death. He did not die peacefully in his sleep, from what I've gathered, but after a huge epileptic seizure, and his parents came to see him too late, when he was already dead, tho he did look peaceful then.

[@positivepessimist6853]

It's not really fair to condemn Mary for her treatment of John. First of all, it was the norm in those days to keep the handicapped out of sight, even regular people did it. Next, John was given a home at Wood Farm on the Sandringham estate with his beloved nannies and servants. Children would be brought over for him to play with-there's footage of an old interview here on KZbin where an elderly woman recounted her memories of being taken over to play with him. He was treated kindly and was very happy and his family would go to visit him. He wasn't just placed there and forgotten, everything was done to keep him happy there.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Exactly. As usual it's believed that the boy was just abandoned, which he wasn't. He was given a home at Wood Farm on medical advice, not because of an adverse effect on court life.

[@zanmei7261]

Some families at that time would have put their imperfect children into an institution. He was taken care of by his older siblings' favourite nanny. His parents did not abandon him, but chose what was best for him.

[@BlueSaphire70]

You are absolutely right. To characterize Queen Mary as unfeeling and harsh with her son John is not correct. He actually lived with the family until his seizures got too severe to manage in public. Unfortunately, there was no medication that he could be given at that time, so it's best to refrain from judging people from our contemporary point of view and circumstances if we are to truly understand the past. At the time, Queen Mary did the best she could for her son.

[@johnherr7190]

Queen Mary of Teck did what every British monarch ought to do - she put duty to the Crown as her top priority. She was a remarkable lady in my opinion.

[@calistafalcontail]

She allowed her sons to be abused. This whole mess that followed, could have been avoided if she would have been smart enough to see how fricking unhinged, cold and damaging their upbringing is. Her sons werent the only ones in royal families to suffer from this. The empress of Austria (Sissi) tried to get her son out of the crazy treatment but couldnt....he commited suicide later in life.

[@A3_870]

I would never prioritize the crown over my own family. That is why the BRF has become a laughingstock with the marriages of 3 out of 4 children of QE2 ended in divorce. They treat outsiders as second class citizens. They wouldn't accept Wallis & Townsend because they're divorced, regardless of how hurt their own members would feel. All they care about it the image of the monarchy. Now that image has been tarnished for almost a century now. That's karma.

[@mediocremaiden8883]

But..They aren't Head of Government then why? That makes them so much special and better than anyone? These people are having children and then ignoring them for..what? Why do they get to wear crowns and tiaras because of sheer birth right? I'll never understand Monarchists. In England you are asked to be loyal to the King...in America we are asked to be loyal to a set of ideas called The Constitution. I don't blame Prince Harry for wanting to be part of a Family, as opposed to 'part of a 'Firm' What and why do you need to worship this family for again? Oy I'll never get it. Don't worry, I'm being fair I can't stand those Kardashians either

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@calistafalcontail I'm not sure if you're referring to the nurse or to King George V here.

[@wendygraham6863]

@@A3_870 I guess your familys perfect

[@code-52]

Mary wrote in her diary, how sad she was , of her son's passing. In those days, she was also keeping the child safe from harm.

[@stephaniemurria5534]

❤️✅️

[@adeladevere2013]

Has anyone noticed that some of Mary's descendants have her facial attributes?

[@maryfinnfan4140]

A lot of the RF take after her

[@highEQlevel]

Queen Elizabeth and Zara Phillips come to mind.

[@yasminx16]

A double of the late Queen

[@zanmei7261]

She was a handsome woman who contributed strong facial features to the monarchy.

[@seamusfallon3104]

Lady Louise is her image

[@suzip5474]

Mary cared greatly for John and made sure he was cared for out of the spotlight and he did spend time with his family. This fact has been documented recently by a childhood friend who spent a lot of time with John.

[@kevinklingner7712]

😊

[@Rome274]

She was so beautiful as well as being blessed with high intelligent

[@winfredstacy5843]

What a great video. I've read a good bit about Mary because she was quite a character. Certainly had her flaws. I believe she was distant with her children because she saw her true job of upholding the monarchy. I remember reading her response to complaining royal children about visiting hospitals "We are the royal family and we love hospitals" She put duty first. Thanks!!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I think you got that spot on Winfred. It's astonishing how the other half live and act! Thank you 😊

[@grandmapickles9223]

I find her absolutely fascinating! I could discuss her all fa Unfortunately I don't know anyone else who loves history and the British history (I'm in America ) as much as I do.

[@winfredstacy5843]

@@grandmapickles9223 I, too am American and have obsessively followed British history for years.....

[@jeanglendinning1860]

my father greatly admired Mary of Teck

[@tintinhickey5869]

Queen Mary placed her son John in his own establishment with his own staff due to her love and concern for him. You make it sound like she wanted him out of her life because he was a problem and an embarrassment but she loved him and wanted the best for him and she had a deep understanding of his physical challenges.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Exactly. It was done with the advice of doctors. Epilepsy wasn't understood then as it is now and treatment was limited. It was felt that a life of quiet seclusion would be best for him.

[@frolyhorn1426]

21st century perspective should not be harshly projected on the lives and choices of those who lived in bygone centuries. Two incompatible contexts in many ways

[@mchapman132]

She loved her son John. She thought she was doing the best for him. It was a different time in medicine, little was known about that illness. His brother (later Edward VIII) was not so nice to him. He referred to him as an embarrassment, that should be hidden away. As fate would have it……he ended up being the major embarrassment.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

@@frolyhorn1426 Absolutely agree with you. It's impossible to judge the past by current standards. Not too many people understand that.

[@elizabethm888]

Absolutely correct. I do wish this was researched better. Prince john also had epilepsy and is believed to have been on the autism spectrum. By all accounts he was a sweet child. At that time there were no medications to control seizures Having epilepsy myself I can tell you I usually have no memory of the seizures , but they would have been frightening for others to witness. It would have been remarkably cruel to place John with children that would taunt him or make fun of his disabilities. There is an accurate documentary regarding Prince John with people that actually knew Prince John that dispels a lot of the myth of Mary and George being cold parents they visited him every week and while World War I was going on they were busy, but they still visited him he also saw his grandmother Alexandra every weekend. She had special flower beds for him to plant seeds Then the next week end She would have fully grown flowers planted so he could pick them and plant more seeds. He was not banished to the country Queen Mary was known for going around the Villages and asking the children to play with him

[@trishjohnson9114]

She was definitely the Queen who loved jewels. Another terrific video!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Diamonds are a girls best friend Trish! Thanks as always 😊

[@VenusEvan_1885]

@@HistoryRoadshow diamonds are everybody's best friend , don't be sexist

[@marishkaaaa-r0p]

@@VenusEvan_1885 they were quoting madonna 😭

[@jamesbugbee9026]

Every diamond displaces a gem of color, so count me out. If anyone could Wear a Heap of jewelry, that person was the beautiful Mary of Teck ❤❤❤ ❤❤❤

[@chrisw1090]

I'm sorry but I think there is a great deal missing on the period that Mary was Queen Consort. We have to remember that in Britain during World War 1 there was ill feeling to anyone with German ancestry, whilst you briefly cover this there was considerable problems for the Royal Family and despite many of his shortcomings George V navigated a course of preserving the monarchy with Queen Mary and her daughter Mary doing a massive PR job in convincing the nation that they were British to the bone. Yes Mary was an expert in antiques and jewellery but that is rather irrelevant to her other great knowledge and that was constitutional monarchy and the way it should function. We had the invitation to Czar to come to Britain, hastily withdrawn for fear of revolution. Post 1918 we had the breakaway of what became the Republic of Ireland, the fall of a wartime coalition government, a minority Labour government (the first) and a National Government, combined with post war depression that was added to by the Wall St Crash and Great Depression. Mary and George changed the face of the monarchy from that of his father which was based on country house parties, hunting, shooting and fishing. We see footage elsewhere of Mary and sometimes George visiting not only hospitals but also factories. There is also film of them descending into a coal mine, all a massive change from the Victorian and Edwardian view of monarchy. She believed in the institution and so whatever her failings were as a parent it is still possible to see the hurt that she felt with the behaviour of Edward Vlll in 'letting down the side. She was supportive of George Vl, but not only that spent considerable time with her granddaughter the current queen, taking her on official visits and showing her the rope. She was horrified with the summer reading list Queen Elizabeth consort of George Vl gave her daughter which consisted mainly of PG Woodhouse and changed it for more appropriate books for a future Queen. She was the first member of her family to greet the current Queen when she returned from Kenya on the death of her father - a grandmother curtsied to her granddaughter the new sovereign. In those early years of the monarchy she was an advisor on the role. She was a far more interesting and complex person than the film gives credit for, especially during the 1st World War when monarchies and institutions were falling she and George in a quiet way revolutionised the role of monarch and thereby ensured it would continue.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

You make some great points Chris. However, my videos are aimed at people firstly with a curiosity, someone who knows little to nothing about a character. The aim has always been to provide highlights of that person with the hope that they can then go away and learn more at their own pace. It would be silly of me to even attempt to make a video on Mary or any other historical character in just 15 minutes. Your depth of knowledge is excellent on this subject, and hopefully it will help others if they wish to read it. Thanks

[@lapislazuli7876]

@@HistoryRoadshow and also Chris, in your very traditional reading of history you fail to read historical characters like Mary of Teck contrapuntally. That is to say, you are elevating and enshrining the inbred, Germanic and Unchristian dynastic immoral rot into what has now become a group of commoners: the Cambridges, Sussexes, Tindalls, Wessexes and so on are all commoners! Why would the taxpayer wish to curtesy to another commoner? It not only doesn’t make genetic sense it doesn’t make symbolic sense. Most of the royals have married commoners, including “Lady” Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, Teck’s bitchy, condescending over-upholstered, fat, ostrich-plumed, grey, stained & crooked-toothed daughter-in-law who was really just the illegitimate daughter of some minor Scottish landholder. Talk about marrying “up”. I’m not sure why you hagiographise these evil public figures who live in great luxury at our expense and pretend to do charity-work paid for by the public purse. Not their own bank accounts. Dynastic rule is an incredibly flawed and evil human creation and it needs to be terminated if the species is to survive into this very complex,dystopic, viral and nuclear age of a future we are currently facing. What you call “Royalty” is really nothing more than pirates and land-grabbers and those who oppress others. They are in essence a mob of godless, social trash masquerading in ermine and quite ugly jewellery and millinery. Clearly money doesn’t buy one taste when it comes to royal sartorialism. Off with all their fat, kipper-and-Balmoral-salmon fed, Dubonnet, gin-n-tonic-drenched, alcoholic, wrinkled, nasty, bitch-and-bastard ugly heads!

[@doravernon1511]

David was the only one who caused anguish with his social life; Prince George was bi-sexual and had an affair with Noel Coward; Henry married late too as he was also involved with a married woman - these two had arranged marriages to settle them in a family life and Princess Mary would have preferred to stay at home but also as married off, as you described. Far more than meets the eye.

[@NIckyFromDunedin]

thank you

[@PSciDoc]

Prince John had his own household and lived at Wood Farm on the Sandringham estate. Wood Farm was given to then Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip as a country bolthole. The Queen spent her birthday there this year.

[@doravernon1511]

Dream on.

[@donsarde]

Poor Prince John. 😢😢

[@TheMissbonnie2011]

The info about Prince John is incorrect. There are a lot of info showing that the family was very close to John and the family visited him often until his death.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

You may well be right Julie, I didn't spend much time looking into the finer details of Mary's life. Appreciate you watching 😊

[@elizabethcompton738]

His grandmother Queen Alexandra was the only member of the Royal family that visited him regularly.

[@jackr1779]

@@elizabethcompton738 Queen Alexandra was at Sandringham House so logistically it was easier for her. Lets not forget there was a war going on, regardless, John was visited by his parents regularly, his sister Princess Mary had visited him the morning he died in fact.

[@zanmei7261]

@@jackr1779 Princess Mary became a pediatric nurse. I wonder if she was inspired to do so by her special-needs youngest brother.

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@elizabethcompton738 Not true! His family all visited with the possible exception of the eldest, David, and John spent time at the Big House (Sandringham).

[@Vic35102]

I've read Mary She was a remarkable woman very intelligent very intelligent I could see where the Queen gets her Strong character and add remarkable memory from

[@celticmist14]

She allegedly forced at daughter to marry a man as did n not like or love but we wanted got marry The Earl of dalkeith. But Queen Mary refused

[@ladyagnes7781]

Queen Victoria was of the House of Hanover. When she married Albert, he brought the name Saxe-Coburg&Gotha. That was the inherited ( not chosen) name forvAlbert's children & grandchildren. During WWI, George CHOSE to change the family name from Saxe-Coburg& Gotha to Windsor. He also stated any othe fam members who bore German surnames would have to anglicized them or lose any British titles that they held.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Great points Lady, thanks as always 😊

[@CheryllBowler]

Also king Edward lived in France not America although he was sent the Bahamas during the war so he couldn't create more mischief with the nazis

[@ladyagnes7781]

@@CheryllBowler That is absolutely correct. The place he had in France was subsequently bought, & I saw it just came up for sale again. The British government I believe send him to the Bahamas yes to keep him away from the European theater so is Nazi sympathies were kept an ocean away.

[@hippiebippie8870]

Queen Victoria's mother was also from the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha, Victoria and Albert were related on their Saxe Coburg Gotha side of the family, which is also how they were each a niece and nephew to their Uncle Leopold, King of the Belgians

[@grandmapickles9223]

I read that Lord. Mountbatten changed the family name from The German Battenberg.

[@sandrajohnson2832]

I think Mary of Teck was beautiful 🌹and became more gorgeous as she aged🦋

[@gonefishing167]

It’s hard to judge her by the standards of our time. She was a product of her times. She had disasters for parents, lived on handouts and it must have been embarrassing for her. She’s so lucky Victoria took an interest in her . Let’s be truthful, next for a portrait of her mother , she scrubs up pretty well. She worked tirelessly for the monarchy and really loved Her Majesty. I’d say the queen gets some of her sense of duty from her formidable grandmother . She’s a lady I’ve always admired in a way. What a hoot she was. I’ve heard stories of people hiding furniture when she was to visit. And one time she took away a dining room chair! Funny 👵👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I did read about the stories of people hiding potential pieces from her, quite amusing really, although would Victoria have been amused? Thanks Gone 😊

[@19gregske55]

I read somewhere, that HM Queen Mary had a table that belonged to George III. She went visiting and discovered the matching chairs - apparently she sat and visited with her hosts so late in the day, that they asked her if she would like to have them for the Royal Collection. Another anecdote mentioned that Queen Mary visited antique shops in London. When she found an item of interest, and of royal provenance, she would make a mental note and exit the store. In a few days, a member of Palace staff would be sent to buy the piece, and haggle for the best price.

[@annhewett9622]

Don’t think ladies force people to give you things and steal from others.

[@christinepizzi6197]

The Queen looks like her and has the same large chest unlike the queen mum. Elizabeth takes after paternal side, like her daughter Anne takes after her father Phillip and his mum. Elizabeth's sons look more like her, especially Andrew.

[@annhewett9622]

@@christinepizzi6197 nope Andrew looks like porchy

[@lydwinaofschiedam2685]

2:51 “So I guess Mary thought, ‘Well what’s not to like??’” Probably the funniest line I’ve ever heard in a documentary 🤣🤣. Loved it. You got a new subscriber.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thank you, much appreciated 😊

[@kayfaubion5355]

How dare you say that Mary put John away and never mentioned him again. Then it was normal to put those people way to institutions. They were horrible places. John was living at a special cottage on the Sandriham estate. Cared for by a nanny. He was alway seen and loved by the family when they were there. If you have read Mary’s diaries it would show he was on her mind. Don’t jump on me… I have a disabled son. And taking care of him is very hard. At the age of 15 we had to move him to a group home. Our health was going down. It was a very hard decision and still after 40 years still hurts. He is loved and cared for by those who are trained to take care of him.

[@carolatlga1407]

My sister and I were born in Queen Mary’s Maternity Home in Hampstead in 1952 & 1955. We visited a few years ago, but it is now Queen Mary’s Nursing Home. Very enjoyable video.

[@eunicestone6532]

Goodbye Queen Mary of Teck.

[@NIckyFromDunedin]

i also was born at Queen Mary maternity hospital but in Dunedin, NZ, now days that building is lived in by university students, babies are born in the Queen Mary Maternity Centre within the main hospital , they are building a new hospital right now - i hope Queen Mary's name is carried on

[@carolatlga1407]

Let us hope her name carries on through the centuries 😊🇬🇧

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

You're so amazing! I've always been fascinated by Mary of Teck. I think she was pretty, but her intellect and sense of duty is astounding, even if she wasn't all that great of a mother.

[@PLuMUK54]

Rather a lot of inaccuracies: The Tecks went to Italy after the bailiffs had taken everything. George V and Mary were very popular with the public, and they were often surprised by the level of popularity. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor lived in France. Mary was not a bad mother, she was, in fact, no different to the majority of her class. This was still a period when the upper classes would be surprised, if not horrified, if a mother had a close relationship with her children until they reached adulthood. She cannot have been too bad, her two eldest sons loved her. She often gets the blame for the harshness of George V towards his sons. John was not distanced from the family. He lived separately as his doctors felt that the stifling atmosphere at court would harm him, probably a correct assumption. The family saw John regularly, and, a piece of evidence that Mary did not hate her children, she was heartbroken upon his death. The money that people received as compensation for items that entered the royal collection via Mary, was usually for those items that she stole. She was a kleptomaniac, and it was basically "hush money" that did not come from Mary, but secretly from the King who tried to protect her reputation, even though it was an open secret.

[@janetpugliesi3203]

She did what Edward would NOT do put the country first. Queen Elizabeth has done this as well..she has been a great example of country first for better or worse....

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks for watching Janet 😊

[@virginiagobetz9084]

I totally agree and go one step further-Both Queen Elizabeths were and currently are brilliant examples if what it takes to be a great monarch.

[@maryfinnfan4140]

All the royals have done since ww2 is suck up to the commonwealth and totallyignore british people whom they regard as the "lower orders" Once Charles cocks itup there will be no monarchy

[@comparedtowhat2719]

My country is an abstract. Sometimes human love is desired over the love of abstraction. Hooray for Edward!

[@CJ-im2uu]

Publically duty first. Privately, only they and the staff know how much they express care and emotion toward each other.

[@vernsnith2230]

Queen Mary was the personification of dignity, stately in appearance, and, her devotion to the Crown is one that I find admirable. Her guidance in helping Elizabeth for her future life is one that is her lasting contribution and legacy.

[@Clipgatherer]

George V and his Queen Mary - a formidable couple if there ever was.

[@kate2create738]

With how Mary’s upbringing turned her into a serious and studious woman, I think her view of the relationship between her and her parents greatly contributed to her lack of motherly skills. There’s also the likely concern she had with her mother in-law Alexandra’s obsessed attachment to her children that did not help either Mary or George learn proper bonding experience as parents to their children. It’s a shame because while both were rough and steely, both do have good traits like duty and service orientated, thankfully QEII has learn to value them. The irony is that while Mary likely would have loathed being with Prince Albert Victor, there seems to be a better match with George. Both were loyal to each other and there were no concerns in their marriage. Just too bad it’s their parenting that needed to be addressed, it greatly contributed to a lot of issues in the future.

[@myriamickx7969]

Let's also keep in mind that, in the aristocracy and high society of the time, parents did not use to raise their children. Young children were confined to the nursery with nurses, governess, and preceptors, and shown to their parents for a very short time every afternoon. The motto was "children should be seen, not heard." So we should not judge George and Mary's parental behaviour with our 21st century mentality.

[@annnee6818]

There for sure were concerns in their marriage, he was abusive to the children which she couldn't do anything about and he obsessively controlled her, she wasn't even allowed to choose her own dress or hair. But they were loyal to each other and an apparently devoted couple and there's no evidence of infidelity on his part which is quite rare.

[@Suzyfromtheblock]

She had a beautiful posture, I can see a similarity in her with the queen

[@daisy13joyce]

I remember as a child of 7, watching Queen Mary's funeral on TV (only in black and white then) it looked very grey, not sure if it was raining though. I remember her as a very elegant lady.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks for watching Joy

[@lapislazuli7876]

I didn’t find her elegant. Just over-upholstered, overly bedizened in tacky jewels and just pompous and not chic. Not truly chic in the way I see other women of her generation being chic. She was just overdressed like an overstuffed old sofa. Germans don’t know who to dress. Sorry!

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@lapislazuli7876 She wasn't German for starters - born in England and never lived in Germany! And "tacky jewels"??? They were some of the most valuable pieces in the world! That was the style of royalty at the time. Got it, wear it.

[@anthonywatts2033]

And accurate but slightly harsh view of Mary. In her life she had seen her father in law, her husband and her second son die and her first son disgrace himself. She made it clear to QEII that she was not to hold up the coronation in the event of her death (lung cancer as with George V). She put the crown before anything and given the times (a world war and the depression) when the crown could have been swept away like the crowns of Russia, Germany, Austria, Italy, Greece etc she was a firm believer. You may think she was wrong, she may have been, but you cannot fault her for holding her course.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Some valid points thanks Anthony

[@zzzbbbooo]

Actually, three of her sons died before she did - John, George and Bertie.

[@anthonywatts2033]

Bertie? If you mean Edward VIII, he died well after Queen Mary.

[@doravernon1511]

@@anthonywatts2033 George vi was called Bertie as his first name was Albert, Edward viii was called David, his last name.

[@cassandraralph5906]

I would have described Queen Mary as a stoic, unchanging and dutiful person with a serious weakness for art, opera and jewelry, especially pearls, lots of pearls. I think her difficult childhood must have affected her more deeply than can be described. She was not a maternal woman. Some women are just like that unfortunately 😕 . And yet she ended up becoming a very valuable asset to the Royal family in her own way. Enough said.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Good points Cassandra, thanks for watching

[@paulashe61]

She was the example of which the current queen uses.

[@LobsngDmchoi]

Didnt know about her love of opera...how do we know that? Thanks.

[@maryfinnfan4140]

If only the queeh had Marysindomitable spirit. Queen M wouldhave sorted out Harry halfwit and his wife!

[@angelafoxmusic7265]

Perhaps she was such a cold mother by learning from example...so sad.

[@sheriking4041]

Edward VII later Edward Duke of Windsor did not live the rest of his life in America. He and Wallis were married in France, during WWII for a while he was the governor of the Bahamas, then after he and Wallis had a home in France. They did travel to America but lived in France.

[@funnytime13]

Good afternoon Jon! Sitting here with a cuppa enjoying the video so Thanks again sir for your excellent work!

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Cheryl, enjoy your weekend 😊

[@robertdudley4017]

Thank you Jon, queen Mary comes across as a cold uncaring mother but in those days that was a normal thing for the royals, as for young Prince John he had a lovely lady as his nanny the children called her lala, 😊👍

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Has it changed that much today? Thanks as always Robert 😊

[@robertdudley4017]

@@HistoryRoadshow I would have to say sadly not Jon, as George said in the lost Prince, quote out of all of us he was the only one who could be himself. He was referring to Prince John.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Very poignant Robert! Happy Easter 😊

[@positivepessimist6853]

He was happy there at Wood Farm with his beloved nanny and servants and other children would be brought over to play with him. He had a happy life.

[@virginiagobetz9084]

David(Edward Vlll died in France where he spent the last years of his life with his wife Wallis.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

I didn't know that Virginia! Appreciate you watching thank you 😊

[@virginiagobetz9084]

@@HistoryRoadshow You're most welcome.

[@aagold76]

Edward visited America often and had an apartment in NYC- The Waldrof Astoria, but- he lived in France the rest of his life.... Mary's favorite was probably George- Duke of Kent. (the video says Albert/George VI was her favorite)... of course, Mary wasn't the maternal sort, so she was never close to any of her children- she did better as a grandmother, her affection for Elizabeth was genuine and you can still see elements of Mary in ER2 today.

[@positivepessimist6853]

Queen Mary saw the deaths of three of her sons: Prince John in 1919, Prince George (Duke of Kent) in 1942 (plane crash) and King George VI in 1952.

[@maryfinnfan4140]

She had more backbone than the whole ofthe modern RF put together!

[@positivepessimist6853]

@@maryfinnfan4140 Definitely! The word 'formidable' sums her up.

[@elizabethm888]

I cannot imagine her pain. She. Is quoted as having said, "I have lost 3 sons and I never got to say goodbye".

[@michaelverbakel7632]

When she got older Queen Elizabeth really did look so much like her grandmother Queen Mary. Queen Mary's brother Alexander of Teck was married to the very last surviving grandchild of Queen Victoria, Princess Alice of Athlone who lived all the way until 1981. Alice's father was Prince Leopold, Queen Victoria's youngest son.

[@positivepessimist6853]

@@michaelverbakel7632 Yes, and Princess Alice's brother is the grandfather of the current King of Sweden.

[@husseinmuhammed828]

They didn't change the name to Saxe Coburg and gotta , the Hannoverian line had ended with Victoria.edward and George were coburgs .so they changed to Windsor

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Hussein 😊

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

Correct. Coburg and Gotha was the house name until 1917.

[@chykim1]

Another video!! Thank you❤️❤️

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Kim, enjoy your weekend 😊

[@rhondaflowers3824]

If they don't hurry up and make a movie about this STRONG Queen 👑

[@tamarab5751]

They could make a whole movie just out of the stories of her demanding the nice things she knew other people had to be donated to her.

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@tamarab5751 Queen Mary was not "demanding". You don't understand her character at all.

[@BlueSaphire70]

I had always read that Prince George and Princess Mary grew to love one another as they were thrown together while mourning Prince Albert. I don't think it was as cold or calculated as it's being presented here. In fact, I have read in multiple places that they were actually very devoted to one another, and contrary to King Edward VII, King George V was faithful to his wife. Their problem was that they could only express themselves in writing, which may explain Queen Mary's appearance of coldness with her children. She must have been painfully shy. She did, however, dote on her granddaughter Princess Elizabeth.

[@TheKingsofFrance]

Interesting figure... a great video for me to watch right before bedtime ! Thank you for sharing Jon !

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks Nieke, have a great weekend 😊

[@Anita-rq9ev]

This was very well presented, you obviously put a lot of effort into all your video's 👍. I knew nothing about her life, so I learned something new. I wish you and all your subscribers a happy Easter 🐣🐇

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Glad you enjoyed it Anita, thank you and happy easter 🐣

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

@@HistoryRoadshow Is it a Christian or Church channel? What if a viewer doesn't celebrate "Easter"? 🙃

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Good point Colin! Thanks for watching 😊

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

@@HistoryRoadshow I did REALLY enjoy the video 🙂 I just felt from the greetings that I was on the margins a bit as I don't celebrate "Easter." Thank you for replying. Maybe Mary can become more of an international subject! 🤗

[@robertlowe4838]

I don't think there was ever a lady that looked more like a Queen Than Queen Mary.

[@szade3433]

Living away from the palace was the best for him. How well John bonded with her can depend on many things. Sometimes living separately can be the best for a family. My son has autism and has seizures. I’m lucky he is tolerant. Queen Mary lived another time and place, and having John live away from court would be for the best. As for her ability to bond with her son can only determined by her.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Appreciate the comment and best wishes to your son. Thank you for watching 😊

[@positivepessimist6853]

@@Chuck0856 Exactly. He was at Wood Farm with his beloved nanny and servants and other children were brought to play with him and his family visited him. He wasn't just cast away and forgotten.

[@fredrika27]

@@positivepessimist6853 Yes, that may be true, but he was still lonely and it broke Albert's heart that his younger brother was taken from him as they were together much of the time before John became seriously ill.

[@positivepessimist6853]

@S B That's true, there was a lot of ignorance back then. It's not mental illness was lumped in with an intellectual disability; they didn't differentiate between the two. There was even a time where those with mental handicaps were put into insane asylums. Even when people did become more aware of intellectual disabilities, there was still a stigma attached. It's only fairly recently that mindsets have changed. I even look at my grandmother who is 91. She is going deaf but stubbornly refuses to wear a hearing aid. She grew up in a time where there was a great stigma applied to deafness, and they were considered intellectually inferior and labeled as being retarded. Even though times have changed, my grandmother feels like people will consider her slow if she has a hearing aid. It's quite frustrating, actually. Even though we've told her that they make them tiny these days, she won't budge. Imagine how things were in King George V and Queen Mary's days, the stigmas were even greater.

[@elizabethm888]

Thank you!!! My son has autism and has had 2 seizures. But my daughter has in later life (25 +) developed epilepsy. I developed it in my 50s. My daughter's seizures are violent. I mostly just collapse. But they are frightening to an on looker. My son, is the sweetest gift from God. Although he is considered "odd", I adore him. He lags in some areas and excellent in others....got long winded there, didn't mean to. I think Queen Mary protected her child.

[@EbonyYoung8833]

Mary turning to Bertie and saying “God Save The King” must’ve been the biggest burn to King Edward. Poor bugger.

[@zanmei7261]

And also a big shock for Bertie who never wanted to be king.

[@playnicechannel]

But her addressing Bertie in that manner and in that timing was following ancient royal protocol to the letter. Upon the death or abdication of the Sovereign, all who are in the presence of the new/next sovereign must acknowledge and sustain the new monarch. Though not an issue so much in the 20th century. In centuries prior failure to do so immediately could see you …. Beheaded or hung, drawn and quartered or if you were sublimely lucky imprisoned for life in the Tower of London.

[@maralynrigby9157]

Edward Duke of Windsor lived in France for the rest of his life, with Wallis...not America. I think you are wrong about Queen Mary...she was very popular, well loved and respected...especially by the working classes, who she always sided with. She was stately and regal but yet had a down to earth quality. Working people often used the famous phrase when people turned their nose up at something "If its good enough for Queen Mary, it's good enough for you!"

[@Shane-Flanagan]

Thanks for this Jon 🙏👏😊 Something different from you as you definitely had more images and info to play with here compared with other videos where they were sparse. Must have made things a little easier for you. Mary was some woman. A driving force, a role model, a survivor yet is so underrated. I can definitely see shades of Mary in Elizabeth II.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Images always make things a little easier. You're right her stiff upper lip attitude didn't always rest well with some. Thanks Shane 😊

[@melissacoelho8413]

George actually loved her well before they married. There are letters from him to her stating how he felt.

[@mchapman132]

Queen Consort Alexandra brought beauty into the royal bloodline, offsetting the homeliness of Victoria.

[@NunyaDammeBiznis]

Where did you get your facts from? Edward was briefly the lord governor of the Bahamas. Except for that time, he lived in Paris. France, not Texas. He never lived in America. Also, she would not have been able to respond to her son at his death. She died nearly 20 years before him. She in 1953, him in 1972.

[@johnthompson932]

Thank you so much

[@Mamadukee1]

I am a history fan,you have done a good guide to Queen Mary!!!!!🤗🇬🇧

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thank you Maria 😊

[@courtheath5138]

"HE NOW LIVED IN AMERICA FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE?" (MINUTE 13:48)? Am I misunderstanding ? He only was in America for months at a time visits but lived and died in France in Villa Windsor is my understanding.

[@debbyrennock8435]

GOSH! Elizabeth looked so much like her Grandmother, Queen Mary! The family resemblance with the Windsor is unbelievable! 😮

[@jeanross7430]

I thought she was beautiful, capable and devoted to doing good.

[@lapislazuli7876]

Your definition of “beauty” is certainly very warped. That is one UGLY woman!!!!!!

[@alisonridout]

Thoroughly enjoyed this Jon. Happy Easter 🐰

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Glad you enjoyed it Alison, Happy Easter to you too 🐣

[@denastoneburner91]

As far as I know, Edward did not live out his life in America, it was France. He and Wallis lived in the Parisian park Bois du Boulogne, later renamed, Villa Windsor.

[@susprime7018]

That's a good line, "fit to be a mistress, not a queen," oh well, George VI was a good king.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Just no pleasing some folk! Thanks SuS 😊

[@zanmei7261]

Given Wallis' track record up to that time, it was a totally accurate comment.

[@comradeleppi2000]

Poor John 😢. Sad to hear that. How can a parent do to this her own blood. Such a beautiful child

[@maryannbernal]

Another great choice. Keep them coming.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Thanks, will do Mary Ann

[@denisedanks6072]

I thought Victoria was a cold mother, Mary was right behind her. I suppose motherhood can have a very different feel as a royal.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

It seems a case of the fittest survives! Thanks Denise 😊

[@positivepessimist6853]

Victoria was an extremely selfish mother. What she wanted came first, always. She had children because she had to, but the needs of her children were of little importance to her, only her own wishes and needs. She also went out of her way to ruin her children's fun. For example, when the family stayed at Osborne House and it was coming time for the Cowes Regatta and her sons would hope to stay on the Isle of Wight to witness and experience all the fun, she would suddenly decide that it was time to return to Buckingham Palace or Windsor, leaving her sons in particular disappointed. She loved being in control and never let them forget it.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

It wasn't just Royal. The aristocracy in general were distant parents. It's just how things were then. It's difficult to look at the past with the eyes of the present.

[@Xandrous_Drumz]

Exactly, she was very smart but selfish at the same time and would never understand her son's opinion if it is right or wrong. Queen Victoria would force his sons to do her a favor.

[@kayfaubion5355]

It seems that Queen Mary’s diary and letters do mention Prince John. And when they were at Sandrihamn they always went to see him. Sorry about the spelling.

[@elizabethm888]

You are right!

[@juliadoherty83]

Edward never lived in America! They spent holidays there in their senior years, often for weeks at a time. They lived (were exiled) in Paris. They lived in Spain and Portugal during WW2 until they set sail for the Bahamas, which Edward become the Governor Following that, they settled in Paris.

[@martinnoyes8507]

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor, spent periods in the United States, they did not live there.They lived in exile in Paris, in a large house provided by the French govenment, at a peppercorn rent.They did not live in Spain or Portugal, they were in Madrid and Lisbon in June and July 1940, after having fled the fall of France.Whilst in Madrid and Lisbon, they caused further trouble, which resulted in the decision to send them to the Bahamas, as swiftly as possible.Where even there trouble followed them, noteably the Dukes friendship and attempted business dealings with Werner Von Greim, a Swedish businessman friend of Herman Goring.

[@anthonycharnock6560]

I think the commentary was incorrect..."Neither likeable or loved" Queen Mary was very well loved by the British. Especially for her style... the toque, which she wore like a crown. The ever present umbrella, accoutrements to her uniqueness. The rigid carriage...She was instantly recognisable and invincibly regal!!! Our present Queen, reminds me of her in mannerisms and looks, though Queen Mary was taller as an adult than her granddaughter became! There is an example of a Quee Mary type in Oscar Wilde's play, 'The Importance of Being Earnest' Lady Bracknell... Especially played by Dame Edith Evans, who I am sure, she based her performance on...

[@carolatlga1407]

A HHHAAAAAANNNDDDBBAAAAAGG! There are KZbin videos about it

[@IntrepidFraidyCat]

My heart breaks for John. 💔🥺

[@HistoryRoadshow]

It does appear to have been neglected! Thanks 😊

[@aphrodite04]

hi, please do a video on queen alexandra of denmark ❤

[@beverleightodd5710]

Edward never lived in America, he and Wallis lived in France with the exception of the time spent as Governer of the Bahamas, they did however visit the states so Wallis could shop and "hold court"

[@petersdotter1]

Whenever I saw her in pictures, her stiff, formal appearance made me think she was imperious and cold. Knowing she suffered from shyness has changed my view of her.

[@zanmei7261]

She passed on her shyness to her second son Prince Albert (George VI) and her granddaughter Queen Elizabeth II. All three of them had a very strong sense of duty, also.

[@eddihaskell]

The Duke and Duchess of Windsor took up Residence in France after the addiction, not in America, except during World War 2 when he took up residence in Nassau Bahamas as Governor.

[@martinnoyes8507]

The pair of them were sent to the Bahamas, to get them away from England and Europe, as swiftly as possible, as while in Madrid and Lisbon, agents of Ribbentrop tried to make contact with them.

[@smittyhistory]

Edward did not live in the United States, but did visit New York several times a year.

[@SliochdnahEireann]

Great short documentary. Well structured, concise and informative. The narration track had a bit too much bass making it difficult to understand at times. Nonetheless, I thoroughly enjoyed this short exposé of the formidable Queen Mary. Edit: 7:16 Prince John of Windsor died after a massive epileptic attack. His nanny “Lala” was devastated and was left traumatised for many years due to the Prince’s violent death. I’m attempting to locate my source. I will include it if and when I have found it.

[@spoffspoffington]

Serious commentary🤵

[@lynnthomason6589]

I think she is a beautiful lady! Even more lovely in her later years. 😎

[@epona9166]

I've read a fair amount about Mary of Teck and I don't think this documentary is very rigorous. Other commenters have made specific points. Mine is that by most accounts she was considerably more admired than she is portrayed here.

[@sirwelch9991]

Queen Mary helped not only the British Monarchy but the future Commonwealth of Nations survive its most turbulent times.

[@richardlawson4317]

You forgot to mention what a horrible bully George was to his sons! Albert (George VI) was a stuttering man for his life, because of it. David (Edward VIII) overcame it but he had other problems. George wasn't brought up that way, that's just the way he was.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

That's for another video Richard. Thanks for watching 😊

[@michaelmontagu3979]

Actually King George VI stammered because of bad treatment by his nanny. His elder brother was her favourite and Albert as he then was had a hard time with her. She would feed him whilst out driving in a C spring carriage. The stammering began at the age before his father was, by modern standards, over stern. There is so much misinformation and misunderstanding of the early years of the 20th century, sometimes more than of the preceding centuries.

[@gerardmackay8909]

It’s always amazes me that George, who was deeply loved by his father and positively doted on by his mother, Alexandra, was such a cold hearted brute with his own children. A really monstrous individual.

[@zanmei7261]

Albert's stammering problem was probably due to the fact that he was left-handed, and his tutors tied his left hand behind his back, forcing him to use his right hand. However, having an abusive nanny and overly stern father certainly didn't help.

[@joshuakampamba9061]

Love this🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲

[@micheleamoah5049]

Edward 8th spent most of his life exiled in France not America. After a brief spell as Ambassador to the Bahamas.

[@HistoryRoadshow]

He did, thanks for watching

[@pedanticradiator1491]

He was Governor of The Bahamas not Ambassador as the place was a British colony at the time

[@lynnsmithershubbard1896]

not Ambassador

[@Iluvthe1960s]

I used to be a wedding steward at Cambridge Cottage on Kew Green I learned the history of the building as was always asked by wedding guests the first 2 Dukes of Cambridge lived there Mary’s mother (who was known as Fat Mary to the locals) grew up there and Mary spent a little of her childhood there, the room we had the ceremony’s in was in those days Mary’s mother own drawing room there are pictures there of them both in that room

[@linaleblanc8288]

Wow, queen Elizabeth looked so very much like her grandmother

[@sandrablosser9888]

Zara Tindall looks so much like Mary of Tek

[@maspalfiker]

Queen Mary's father Franz von Teck was born in Osijek, Croatia (then part of Austria-Hungary) in 1837. In Osijek still today there the church and the vessel used at Franz's baptism ceremony :)

[@heatherprice588]

Even our late Queen & Princess Margaret were brought up & educated in the Palace nursery & only saw their parents at the end of the day for a short period of time,It was Princess Diana that broke the mould & brought up the boys her way & Princess Catherine is doing the same thing.

[@mortalclown3812]

We can't really know the whether Mary mentioned John again or the depth of her grief as a mother.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

We can actually. Her letters and diaries are available for study in the Royal Archive at Windsor Castle. I'm a writer and have been there a number of times. In her diary Queen Mary wrote about being heartbroken by John's death, as was his father. Her consolation she wrote was that, 'the poor little boy's troubled soul is at peace. '

[@mortalclown3812]

@@michaelmontagu3979 I used the word 'mention' alluding to personal verbal interactions with those close to her; to presume she didn't is hubris.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

@@mortalclown3812 Again, we can, because of access to relevant letters and diaries, which people she spoke to regularly, like her ladies in waiting, wrote and kept. I'm a professional historian and writer, with a particular interest in Queen Mary. I've accumulated several hundred letters from her and those close to her, and visited the Royal Archive many times. It's a fascinating resource to get the facts behind what is often assumed.

[@marshagarwood2433]

I think David was the conquest of Wallis for her own designs. The Windsors lived outside Paris. The items she borrowed were returned after her death.

[@KevinGraves703]

The Duke of Windsor did not live the rest of his life in the US. He lived in France, but yearly trips to the US.

[@cathyshifley3472]

I remember the first time I saw Mary. I did a double take because she and Elisabeth were as alike as twins. I couldn’t get over it!

[@CJ-im2uu]

Edward VIII did not sspend the rest of his ife in the US. He lived in Franc. The far and few times he ever spend time contacting anyone within the family was painfully strained and short.

[@kathytait3244]

Informative,. Could the sound be fixed, breaks alot.

[@LobsngDmchoi]

Most docs. say that the Tecks "exiled" (resided after their household good were sold) in Florence Italy -- which would probably have been cheaper than a large French city...

[@michaelmontagu3979]

It would have been cheaper if the Duchess of Teck hadn't insisted on taking more and more rooms in their hotel. Eventually an English lady lent them her villa.

[@doravernon1511]

@@michaelmontagu3979 while ordinary folk lived a whole family in one room.

[@michaelmontagu3979]

@@doravernon1511 That happens no matter how other people live.

[@johnthompson932]

good on her love her to bits

[@mediocremaiden8883]

I read that after Archduke Frabz Ferdinand married morganatically to Sophie Chotek, most European Courts were made to ignore and shun Duchess Sophie and that one of the few courts they were warmly welcomed and received several times by King George and Queen Mary. Maybe because of Mary's parents situation? I think Queen Mary was very beautiful but I didnt know as a child their property was repossossed. No wonder she grew up to be a Hoarder. An Organized Hoarder, maybe slightly kleptomaniac instead of "Collector" Anyhow, Another great vid ! 🎉 thank you for uploading, Dear Sir

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Much appreciated, thank you 😊

[@user-sf7og5ke7p]

You cannot keep on blaming Simpson for the abdication - he was prepared to side with Hitler and so was unsuitable to be king.

[@lynnsmithershubbard1896]

she had a bad gut feeling and should have bailed, but was afraid he would commit suicide

[@jameyross7915]

Captions are not working. Please fix it on your end so I can keep up with the video.

[@simbamufasa]

Amazing doc! I subbed on youre channel, because you video are verry good and you can see you put work on it. 💪😄👍👍 . Wil you please make a video about Belgisch king boudoui I? (born 1930-1993) he really made a inpact for the Belgisch people. And he been so munch trauma. His karakter is like prinsec diana, he was sooo kind and really care for people.... I from Belgium 🇧🇪 sorry for my writings fault, its munch easy to speak english than to write

[@HistoryRoadshow]

Much appreciated Simba, thank you for watching 😊

[@hildeschmid8400]

Your English is good enough to understand. Ik was in Belgie geboren, mar ik heb verhuised naar America als ik 'n jaar was, so I find speaking Flemish and Dutch easier than writing it!

[@mediocremaiden8883]

Sometimes, it seems that only ones being 'served' are the King and Queen 👸 This feels especially true in regards to Mary of Teck

[@spoffspoffington]

A great lady.

[@twobearshomestead]

The genetics of Mary of Teck are strong. You can see her in Elizabeth, Charles, Anne, Lady Louise, and more. Fascinating.

[@seamusfallon3104]

For a comprehensive & accurate account of Queen Mary:s life we recommend David Duff's excellent biography of her,have it