Maschine 2.2 in Bitwig Studio Recording Midi and Routing Multiple Audio Channels

[@trimix83wasTAKEN]

YESSSSSSS! I knew it could be done, but I've been searching for MONTHS - searching KZbin and endless forums, reading manuals and trying to make this work just like this. You just explained it all to perfection - I can't be more grateful!!! But I want to know - how the hell did you find out how to do this?

[@maschinetutorials]

trimix83wasTAKEN Been using Maschine for a very long time fam, glad to help!

[@Creative_Spasciz]

Bro, you the GOAT for this!!! Thank you!!!

[@maschinetutorials]

Glad to help!

[@Creative_Spasciz]

@@maschinetutorials Is there a way to do an updated version of this??

[@maschinetutorials]

@@Creative_Spasciz I'm sure there is, I do not have any plans to do so currently.

[@MatrixxSoundlab]

The first half of this was EXACTLY what I was looking for! Good lookin' out man!

[@maschinetutorials]

MatrixxSoundlab Glad to help fam!

[@BodhiGeraci]

Maschine Tutorials you guys are awesome!

[@maschinetutorials]

Bodhi Geraci Glad to help, thanks for the support!

[@thomfraser1219]

So quick after the 1.1 release! Thanks for this Saintjoe, saved me many hours of trial and error.

[@maschinetutorials]

Thom Fraser No problem, glad to help!

[@Nosh_Feratu]

mate, youre a legend, this video was exactly what Ive been searching for! big thankx

[@maschinetutorials]

Glad to help!

[@Nosh_Feratu]

@@maschinetutorials only problem im having with this is when i play back a pattern ive just drummed in using Maschine pads, instead of playing the individual instrument (kick, hat etc) each midi note plays the entire kit every time... any ideas? The Maschine software seems to be a bit different to when you made your video also, this might have something to do with it, im not changing some new setting?

[@maschinetutorials]

Hmmm, haven't come across that before, I'd imagine it would be in the group midi setting. You can set it to "manual" or "drumkit". Been a while since I messed with this in Bitwig though honestly.

[@cliftonwright869]

Extremely helpful tutorial. Thank you so much for making this. Now I don't have to switch between Maschine Standalone and Bitwig anymore!

[@maschinetutorials]

Clifton Wright Glad to help, thanks for the comment!

[@pavelmadcat]

Thank you, man ! Nice short but informative tutorial!

[@maschinetutorials]

Thanks for watching!

[@mljakobsen]

Great video. Just a small comment. It seems to be possible to have more than one track routed to the samme midi channel. Just create a new Instrument track and go to notes to tracks and choose the previous track as the destination

[@SoundsAndGear]

Thanks for the comment, yes you can most definitely use the "notes to " device/routing, it's just a different concept than what I normally look for. Still learning Bitwig obviously :) There's something quirky about doing it that way I can't remember off the top of my head though. But thanks again for the comment and being willing to share the info!

[@markosotirovic8983]

As always, you are the best!! Can't thank you enough!! Bitwig support couldn't even provide me with this much info!! (P.S - Do you use bitwig yet or no?)

[@maschinetutorials]

Marko Sotirovic Glad to help man! I've been messing with the demo, seeing how they are coming along. Looks like they are heading in the right direction.

[@EdoardoMarcora]

I am a new subscriber to MaschineTutorials.com... very happy so far! One question about this video. How do I send midi from a pattern in Maschine to a separate instrument track in Bitwig (e.g., with Serum loaded in). This way I can use Maschine as a sequencer and Bitwig to run the plugin (with delay compensation and other features not avail in Maschine).

[@maschinetutorials]

You'd send MIDI out from the individual pad instead of the whole group, that way you get all of the note ranges.

[@EdoardoMarcora]

Thanks

[@maschinetutorials]

No problem

[@Lukree]

Thanks, this was super useful and really clear tutorial! Appreciated! Can you still use Maschine knobs etc to change devices and/or tweak settings?

[@maschinetutorials]

Lukree Industries yeah you still have control over your parameters in Maschine

[@millionhertz]

hi ! did native instruments chose bitwig to develop their daw compatibility product line ? Cause i just saw a video of maschine with bitwig working hand in hand and it is quite impressive. ! I'm just entering the ableton live world abd i'm very interested in maschine jam.Are all the features and compatibility available in other daws espacially ableton live ?

[@maschinetutorials]

I think they customized templates for Bitwig, Ableton, and a few others in terms of the Maschine Jam. What features work depend on the template they made, you can use the Maschine plugin in all of them though.

[@mikelo303]

Great tutorial. It worked! Best tutorials on the net for Maschine IMO. I have a question. Is there any way to see all sounds separately form maschine in BitWig mixer? As far as I grasp this (I am complete noob), now we connected whole group to input in Bitwig. Is there any way to see all aounds separately from maschine (per group or all) in bitwig? Something easy like this chain trick (Find missing chains)? Or do I have to connects all sounds manually form Maschine one by one in Bitwig? What I want to do is to mix every single sample/sound in bitwig and then add mastering effects at the end. Simply I have full track in peak form in Maschine (8 bars) but I want to arrange all it in Bitwig. Live record it, re-arrange it then tweak it - All in Bitwig. Big thanks! :)

[@maschinetutorials]

+mikelo303 You can route your audio channels from Maschine into Bitwig, just keep in mind you only have 16 outputs total (32 mono I suppose) but you can route each pad to an external output, and setup channels in Bitwig to receive those outputs.

[@mikelo303]

+Maschine Tutorials Thanks a lot. It worked!. I created 14 groups in total in mashine. Routed them as shown in bitwig to 16 tracks. Thanks. Now I want to mix and master in bitwig. I want to connect my old Behringer controller and set each group audio volume in bitwig. How can I do it? Do you have tutorial for that. Basically I want to be able to mix it in bitwig, add some compression and eq at the end and record it in bitwig. Contorller would make my life much easier and for that I think I need to be able to have autio tracks in bitwig as well. Not only midi. I know I am a noob. I am learning. Thanks.

[@maschinetutorials]

+mikelo303 No, not sure about that controller or how it works with bitwig sorry.

[@velanche]

Hey Saintjoe! I've been learning and playing around with Bitwig 8-Track for a few days (free with the keyboard I own). Has there been any changes with regards to Maschine/Bitwig routing that I should be aware of, since you've originally recorded the video?

[@maschinetutorials]

I haven't really messed with it in a while so I'm not sure if there has been or not.

[@STF_YVR]

Thank you saintjoe for this great video. Followed your instructions and the setup works great with the Maschine Studio controller but with my Komplete Kontrol keyboard which does not trigger any sound. The keyboard was automatically detected and set up by Bitwig and works fine in the DAW but the midi does not seem to be properly routed to the Maschine VST. Any idea what could be missing ? I am a bit new to Bitwig and have probably missed something

[@maschinetutorials]

If it's setup in Bitwig your keyboard should trigger anything via midi. Does it work on other channels?

[@STF_YVR]

Hello SJ, Yes it works on any Bitwig channel with or without the komplete kontrol vst on the track. It might be a midi routing issue somewhere in Bitwig or Maschine, Or a problem with the Bitwig controller script not playing well with Maschine but I can't figure it out. I watched your video again and my setup is identical to yours. Everything works fine as long as I use the Maschine pads to play/record but if I want to play on the KKS keyboard I can't. I can see the midi going in. I can even adjust the settings on VST in Maschine but no sounds, no notes. Do you have an S series, have you tested it with this setup ? I am on OSX with the latest versions of everything.It would really help to know if anyone can reproduce this or if I have just overlooked something.

[@maschinetutorials]

Stéphane Yver I have an s series, haven't tried using the Bitwig script though, I don't really use the keyboard at all.

[@grayster1000]

great vid as always man - it works a treat but i am having difficulties when try to then use the midi in bitwig to play the kit in maschine its little off e.g. some drum sounds are missing - hope you can help ??

[@maschinetutorials]

Probably check the MIDI settings and make sure you're using the proper note range.

[@grayster1000]

would it be the same e.g. c3 root note for playing back via bitwig?

[@maschinetutorials]

Yeah, the groups are generally the same. Maybe try C1 instead of C3.

[@MrMajesticdakim]

Peace, St. Joe. Long time. This is Majestic. I just wanted to know where you got the MIDI script for Maschine for Bitwig. I have one for an MPD32, MPK49, and APC40, but none for Maschine. I already cannot seem to work with Ableton Live 9 without Maschine as a plugin, but I've just gotten introduced to Bitwig Studio, and want to keep the same workflow. Help a bruh out PLZ!

[@maschinetutorials]

Andre Law I'm not using any midi scripts, what script are you referring to?

[@kyraaqueen9032]

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[@Nyhde]

Hi! Thanks for another great video! This is probably one of the most useful tutorials I've ever seen on Bitwig and Maschine syncing! I've got a question, though. I think I've followed the instructions properly and turned overdub on and everything, but when I start recording more pads, I can't hear the ones I've already recorded. The notes are there and they aren't disappearing, but for whatever reason they're not triggering the sounds inside Maschine. I can only hear the ones I'm playing. Would you happen to know any way to fix this?

[@maschinetutorials]

I'm not sure if they've changed anything, I haven't opened Bitwig in a long time so there may be something that has changed. Check the monitor settings on the track maybe?

[@Nyhde]

I finally figured it out! It only works if you record inside the Scene Launcher instead of recording straight to the main arranger. Now I'm only going to have to learn how to properly use the launcher, but I'm sure it'll be well worth it. Anyway, this pretty much completes all my needs from Bitwig and Maschine alike. Time to make some music! Thanks again for the video! It helped me a great deal figuring things out.

[@maschinetutorials]

Ahh ok, cool, yeah I only used the clip view so didn't realize that. Seems weird though...hmmm.

[@glennsam-sin1738]

I Am recording directly from machine into the arranger, yo have to add a channel and send machine to it basically.

[@codymillo5029]

Are you using Bitwig 1.1? They added multi out to it now so maybe that will symplify that process?

[@maschinetutorials]

Cody Millo Yes, that's the only reason it's possible to do this at all. You used to not be able to route multiple channels to one plugin.

[@Dani-we4cd]

Hey Saintjoe! I really appreciate all the tutorials. This one is great but why does the clip pre-count not work when routing maschine.

[@maschinetutorials]

Thanks for watching. Pre-count doesn't work in Maschine when it is a VST because it is subject to the transport of the DAW.

[@drgstrife]

Hey I've set everything to the exact way you put it in the video. However, when I try to record something I already made a beat in Maschine, and I set a second instrument track to the correct settings, I only get the audio playing and signals coming from the original Machine track you pulled up for the settings, and not the individual groups. But when I record something the midi notes seem to appear on the grid of Bigwig, but it doesn't playback or sounds doesn't seem to be flowing out of the second "instrument track with Maschine's group 1" help?

[@maschinetutorials]

RawBeaTz Llapitan Not sure of your setup, but you have to make sure all the routing is done properly. If it's something you've already made in Maschine and you just want to record the audio you don't need to setup the midi, just make sure the audio is routed properly.

[@isis42michel]

always informative

[@maschinetutorials]

Glad to help!

[@christianjamesmpls]

Greetings! Thx for the video, but do you have any idea why I can not hear any audio after I recorded the midi notes? They show up in the clip in bitwig but I guess its not triggering the sample back in maschine or something...? plz HELP!

[@maschinetutorials]

+christian james Make sure the midi is routed back to your maschine track properly so that it can trigger the sounds.

[@christianjamesmpls]

+Maschine Tutorials Ah! input wasn't on host... Thanks man! Game changer ;)

[@maschinetutorials]

+christian james Glad to help!

[@alzepop]

Hi SJ, the routing described works fine with a drum kit. But when I try using an instrument such as a piano in Maschine only the C3 note is triggered. All midi notes are recorded in Bitwig but only C3 will play. Any ideas ? Thanks again for your great website.

[@maschinetutorials]

alzepop You need to give that pad it's own midi channel instead of doing sounds to midi notes for the group.

[@MauroAlpha17]

Ciao Joe, I've just bought bitwig and i have problem exporting audio loops cause the sound is clipped, dunno why. There is a way to records directly in the multiple audio channel the audio files ? some tricks i mean ;) thanks i love your tutorials, i've made out too a bit of them in italian for ita people :)

[@maschinetutorials]

Mauro Alpha Yeah you can route the audio directly to multiple channels, but as for exporting, I'd try turning down your tracks first to see if that helps.

[@JamesThompson-pz3kf]

So in Bitwig 4 things have changed slightly to how i see it in this video. I couldn't route the two instrument tracks to have notes from Maschine as well as routing notes to the Maschine plugin, the option to route notes to track - maschine just doesn't appear. My first workaround is once you've recorded your midi notes from maschine into Bitwig to then change the input to No input and then the option to route notes out to Maschine will appear. Once Maschine plugin was set as the output i was then able to set maschine as the input again. Strange!

[@maschinetutorials]

Interesting 🤔 I haven’t tried this in years, thanks for the info!

[@ahalpt]

Is it possible in Bitwig: To get the audio not from master maschine channel but the midi channel we write data? (like ableton external instrument racks do) It is really straight thing to send midi and get audio from same channel..

[@maschinetutorials]

Alper Tunga You'd just have to setup that channel in Maschine to use an external output, and route that to the channel you want in Bitwig.

[@ahalpt]

But can you route that audio to the channel which you send midi notes in Bitwig? Like how you did in Ableton external instrument rack.. Sorry for my english, i cant ask clear i guess.

[@justinbowman1530]

Hey, great video, man! I'm having an issue I can't seem to work out though. I've set up everything correctly like in the video. But, when I go to record in a beat only pad #1 sends midi...and, it triggers all the other pads. So, I hit pad #1 and just get all 16 midi notes stacked on top of each other. Very strange. Very frustrating. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, keep it up, bro.

[@justinbowman1530]

Just realized about the Maschine 2.2.3 update. Fixed my issue and it's working great. This workflow is super boss. Thanks for the tutorial, dude.

[@maschinetutorials]

***** Sorry for the late reply, was traveling, glad you got it working though!

[@bitwig7957]

@@justinbowman1530 i am having the same issue, how did you fix it ?

[@christianjamesmpls]

Having alittle trouble routing the individual pads out to bitwig then to my presonus 1602. is that possible?

[@maschinetutorials]

I do not have a Presonus, but seems like you'd set the routing up inside of Bitwig once you route out of Maschine into Bitwig.

[@danieldorfsman2137]

Hey, I have a question and i'm sorry but it's not relevant to this video. But the NI forum turned up nothing and I... didn't know where else to go! haha. So I had this track all worked out and recorded and almost done. One of the banks is loaded with samples from various parts of a song. I had all the sounds pitched differently and with varying effects. I don't know what happened... but now when I make any change at all to one of the sounds in the bank, it alters all the rest. For example, if I change the pitch of one sound, all of the other sounds follow. I'm not sure what I did to cause that, and it was working before. driving me nuts. any idea? its like they all chained together and I'm not sure how. MK2. thanks.

[@maschinetutorials]

Daniel Dorfsman Click the select button, and press "none" it sounds like at some point all of your sounds got selected using multi select.

[@marabou22]

Maschine Tutorials you're correct. i appreciate the response. now i can finish this thing up. thanks!!!

[@maschinetutorials]

marabou22 Glad to help.

[@DeusNosSalvet]

i Was able to finally get this to record midi data within bitwig but it has no sounds associated with that midi data. only can hear the pads when im playing them. no sound on playback :(

[@maschinetutorials]

You would need to make sure the MIDI track is routed back to Maschine properly and that the group is setup to receive MIDI.

[@DeusNosSalvet]

@@maschinetutorials yes thank you for the reply. I decided that maschine software is just not worth the hassle or headache. I enjoy using it as a quick beat maker in standalone, but DAW integration is beyond terrible. I would prefer to program things in a much more capable and intuitive software. so I have settled with routing Battery through a stock Drum machine plugin, and with Drivenbymoss scripts my maschine mikro actually functions as a normal device. now I don't have to open that mess in my DAW and I'm happy :D

[@maschinetutorials]

@@DeusNosSalvet Cool, enjoy!

[@zacharycrawford1529]

Ive got this so close to right! My only problem is that as over write plays it keeps feed back out to maschine and back into my track. This isn't happening when you do it? Any help would be amazing

[@maschinetutorials]

Zachary Crawford Check your midi thru setting, make sure it's turned off

[@zacharycrawford1529]

Yeah I thought I had it right, but that was it! You're the man, thank you! Loving BitWig, just got the Nectar Panorama and an APC. What a great combo!

[@maschinetutorials]

Zachary Crawford Glad to help man, how you like the Nektar?

[@delaluna1910]

Not sure if u might have an answer to this problem, i did update to 2.2 but the "group midi batch" opton will just appear in my stand alone version and not in my DAW plugin. Would be happy as ... if u knew what i do wrong. thx - ben

[@delaluna1910]

oh i forgot..im using cubase but i guess the problem doesnt relate to whatever DAW i would use .

[@maschinetutorials]

REGENinMIR It sounds like your plugin file didn't get updated, maybe you moved the plugin from the original install location or the updated version got installed in a different location?

[@delaluna1910]

Maschine Tutorials thank you for your fast answer. i removed the .dll from the vst folder and reinstalled. they where installed there agin and maschine opens up as plug-in in cubase. but....no midi batch setup. pretty frustrating

[@delaluna1910]

Maschine Tutorials figured out now, that it works in the 64 bit bersion of cubase as a plug in, but not in the 32 bit version which i normally use.

[@maschinetutorials]

REGENinMIR Ahhh, maybe the 32 bit plugin file didn't get updated? Or maybe you didn't install the 32 bit plugin?

[@iam_geyed]

Hey bro. I'm trying to use Komplete 49 in Bitwig and it works, but when I record one track with keys, it won't let me use Komplete again on another track to record a synth or anything else. How do I fix this?

[@maschinetutorials]

You have to load another instance and switch instances.

[@iam_geyed]

+Maschine Tutorials cool thanks man

[@maschinetutorials]

No problem.

[@shadowhenge7118]

Pretty strange you cant route the midi clips to the channels in the groups. Thx for the tips.

[@maschinetutorials]

I'm not sure what you mean but thanks for watching!

[@shadowhenge7118]

@@maschinetutorials i mean being able to put the midi clips into the tracks you get when you add the missing chains. I have to use 32 channels to separate 16 maschine channels. Studio one is like this, too. I need 16 midi tracks and 16 audio tracks to get everything to work right. Kind of a pain.

[@maschinetutorials]

Ahh, you mean something like Ableton Live's "external device" that has the MIDI and audio on the same channel. Hmm, been a while since I messed with Bitwig like that, does it have an "external device" type of instrument that could work for this?

[@shadowhenge7118]

@@maschinetutorials not that i could find

[@maschinetutorials]

Word, yeah I'm not sure then.

[@swoodc]

I dont understand, when I record me playing the first pad, and then i play the second one right after, after it loops back it plays the second pad for both notes, and it just changes their pitch. So instead of playing two individual sounds it just changes to two of the same note

[@maschinetutorials]

Check the midi routing, make sure you have sounds to midi notes setup and make sure you have the group set to receive midi input not the individual pads.

[@bizznizzification]

Thanks from France for this brilliant Tutorial, but... How i have to do if i want each sound FROM ONE GROUP in seperate channels in Bitwig. Tried to achieve this since 24h, and i still not done...

[@maschinetutorials]

Bizznizz Dj You'd do "sounds to midi channels" and give each one it's own channel instead of giving the whole group a channel with each pad having it's own note.

[@bizznizzification]

Thanks mate, it works really well. So if i understand well, if i have 2 groups in Maschine i can't separate 32 sounds in 1 track in Bitwig? I have to create 2 Bitwig tracks & put an instance of Maschine on each with only 1 group?

[@maschinetutorials]

Bizznizz Dj Yeah that would be the best way to do it, since each group will have it's own midi channel. I mean you could put them on the same midi channel and just change the note ranges that they send.

[@jean-baptiste9230]

can you send audio to different channels within pad mode and not between group, haVING TROUBLE DOING SO

[@maschinetutorials]

You'd have to go to each pad and set it's output to one of Maschine's external outputs and route that to your channels.

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

Bitwig and Maschine ... thats a combo i wouldn't use to often ... there both limited Mixer wise but both offer good sounds and other features ...

[@maschinetutorials]

+J-N-H-M limited mixer wise? Not sure what you mean. What limitations are you running into specifically?

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

well bitwig has the resonator banks ... but in general , you cant send a channel back in on itself , to make a feedback loop ... like you can in Ableton , reason , Logic , ect ..

[@maschinetutorials]

+J-N-H-M Cool, I guess everyone has different needs for sure. Can't say that's something I've used before, what do you find yourself doing with that sort of routing?

[@JSprayaEntertainment]

Maschine Tutorials oh you , you can do any and every thing ...that's why i've been trying to spread the word on it ... 1. Adding Fx ( reverbs feel more natural ) 2. Loudness to any sound ( you can drive the loop to insane levels )(( we have seen the negative side of this live on stage at times , so controlling this is Crucial so use Limiters & Ect to contain level)) 3. Sound design ( you actually don't need any source sounds , you can build sounds or change your synth sounds completely ) 4. creating bass lines out of melodies or vocals ... 5. filling in the spaces of a close to finished beat that needs just a little something more , but you want it in tune and to go with everything quick and easy .. - - - - - The Sky is the Limit ... anything with ins and outs can get in on the loop ... ipads , speakers & mics , analog gear , traktor Pro , DAWS ( Reason , Ableton , Logic , ect )... - - - - - i took me years of beat making and producing to Find my different works flows and tricks , but feedback is one we all should know well.. feedback is responsible for many of our normal effects like Reverb , Delay , Phaser , Flanger , Chorus , Ect ... thats why they have the feedback knob ... when you build them yourself you just have more control , adding filters where you like , ECT.... Cheers XD - JNHM - fellow Beat Maker ect. -

[@maschinetutorials]

+J-N-H-M Cool, not something I use but I'm sure it's useful for many people indeed.

[@melomane2010]

Just an FYI that this technique does not quite work anymore in the latest versions of Bitwig and Maschine.

[@maschinetutorials]

Cool, should still be similar in concept. Haven't tried it in a while.

[@ToddMushaw]

This works, but using the pads in keyboard mode is useless. Thanks for posting.

[@maschinetutorials]

+Todd Mushaw In keyboard mode you don't do "sounds to midi notes" you just give the individual pad it's own midi channel instead.