Massad Ayoob - Fit vs Feel - Finding the best gun for your hands. - Critical Mas Ep 65

[@XwhiskeysX]

Massad Ayoob is a national treasure

[@sisleymichael]

Yep.

[@frankbodenschatz173]

Thanks, and that Glack 30 was replaced by a Springfield Ronin. Kept the 45 ACP cal. over 9mm just cause I like it. 9 45's instead of 13.

[@ивандонбас]

We need to archive all of his videos to make sure they don't disappear forever once some crazy lunatic declares him a gun terrorist or a racist for no reason and spams reports. Or KZbin adds another insane anti-gun policy.

[@snakesonn]

Please notice me senpai

[@JoeO.]

As are his distal joints.

[@randyduncan795]

Mr. Ayoob, I remember reading your articles as a teen back in the '80s. I'm glad to see you looking healthy and fit. Thank you for the many decades of fine content.

[@devobronc]

Ayoob is the Man...

[@gokuryu]

He does look very fit for a legend of his age. I wonder how old he is.

[@smtbigelow]

@@gokuryu Hes 75.

[@Vladpryde]

That arthritis on his hand though.....😲☹

[@tonobaker601]

Dont catch him without a hat on a windy day 😅

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Retired Army (31yrs combat arms), I agree 100%. For soldiers, they have to adapt. For a civilian, you need to be comfortable.

[@Semperf11]

Agreed sir, and thanks for your service ✊🏿

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[@no_handle_required]

For years, this man was pure to the point info and no nonsense.

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[@Kelly-oq9nh]

The old commercial… When E.F. Hutton speaks people listen. When Massad Ayoob speaks shooters listen. Videos are always good, but in my opinion I think this is the best one to date. Thank you Massad.

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[@2004ranger1]

Another lesson from the master teacher.. more please

[@eddietat95]

2:20 "Leverage equals power. Power controls." Love it.

[@sisleymichael]

Thanks Mas. Very true words. Feels good at the store, shooting is quite different. The first joint. Yes, for some people. I am one. I learned about this back about 1982. A friend who was a competitive shooter said let's go to the range. I had had some shooting issues, not doing what I thought I could. He suggested I try that first joint on the trigger finger. I have never changed since! It made a HUGE difference. I was in the Army and went through the change over to the M9. Wow. I could not get the weapon into the webbing of the hand right and get my index finger to get enough trigger. The rest of my service we had the M9, so I cheated, incorrectly, by rotating my hand towards the trigger guard in order to get that joint on the trigger. I qualified expert but have never fought a gun so hard in my life. I KNEW what I was doing was wrong but through brute force made the expert qual score. It was important on many levels. Senior people need to perform in all categories. I caught a lot of grief on the firing range but after the results, it died away. It was not like I did not know what I was doing either. I grew up shooting handguns, a lot. That is a great point you made. Feel vs Fit! Yes. The old 1911A1, still and always will have a sweet spot in my safe. The G19 now is my carry gun, with an XS Big Dot set of sights.

[@GoFindAsafeSpace]

I remeber watching massad vhs vids with my father as a little boy back in the early 90s. Now im a 40 year old man still watching him on a strange thing called youtube in 2023. Crazy! Keep giving the world gun knowledge, massad👊

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[@annieok5298]

He truly is indeed a national treasure !!

[@Two_Names]

I've found ergonomics to be one of the trickiest things in gun handling because it's so personal that the best you can do is experiment or hope you can find someone with similar needs or preferences sharing specific information relevant to you. I am grateful that modularity has become so prevalent in handguns in particular; it's amazing how much impact simply changing the backstrap or using a different profile trigger shoe can have on your actual shooting performance, with only very slight changes in reach or dimensions.

[@onpsxmember]

I found that as one's grip technique (hopefully) evolves/changes over time instead of just sticking with habits one can outgrow a grip or having different grips based on the discipline's goals to have maybe a more bone structure involved grip e.g. quite static, zen like shooting for rings at further distance while a very aggressive friction based grip might be favoured for quick strings in dynamic, time stressed practical shooting.

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[@ScrappyXFL]

It's nice if you have friends who will let you shoot their guns. Changed the way I shoot different platforms over the years. Nicer if they're a good spotter, watch you, boom, calling it for you, rinse, repeat, and be open to suggestions

[@allenbitting986]

Happy Birthday Mr. Ayoob!!

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[@sombra6153]

When the grip sleeves for Glocks started to get to be the rage, they “felt” good, but were actually responsible for changing enough grip characteristics to affect accuracy, me included. I remember one of mine, normally a mid-high 90s shooter who showed up to qualify and his scores dropped twenty points. Only thing that changed was the grip sleeve. I asked why he had installed it. He said he thought it looked cool. Took it off and performance increased back to where he’d been. Same with all the backstrap options a lot of popular double stacks now come with. You can tailor your pistol to “feel” good but range performance is final. My current carry, a P365 is taking some adjustment. I’m going to stick with it because it’s size, capacity, versatility, as well as trigger and out of the box sights are what I want in a concealed carry gun. It’s surprisingly accurate, but after a season this past week, let me know that I can’t slack off regular training. And sometimes visiting a professional, even when you’re a professional yourself is the Rx.

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[@txhuntsman]

This is the best practical explanation of fit and feel I have encountered. Excellent info.

[@keithplymale2374]

Massad Ayoob is a national treasure. I own a Luger, 1911's and a Beretta 92FS I find them fitting my hand best in that order and trigger control best in that order. I have a Ruger GP100. Since I put a Houge monopod grip on it I find it is the best fit for both my weak and strong hand.

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[@RGL01]

Happy Birthday, Mas.

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[@craighand710]

This is a Man's Man.

[@Quality_Guru]

Makes 100% sense. With that said, we all should not be purchasing a firearm from Cabela’s, since they lock the trigger and you can’t size the pistol for fit.

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[@richardsnyder3297]

Thanks for another informative and to the point video. I have been shooting for over 70 years, since my Dad taught me to shoot on the farm in the early 50s. I have acquired a very nice collection of handguns over the years and am now in the process of deciding which to pass on to my grandkids and which to simply move on to others. The topic of your video is exactly what I have been dealing with over the past couple of years. Taking each gun to the range and really analyzing how the trigger reach matches up with my hands. Due to arthritis the strength of my trigger finger has diminished and I have moved to using the distal joint just as you described. Oh what a difference that has made in which guns work well for me. Not surprisingly my Beretta 92s, of which I own six variants, have jumped to the fore. My range time is thought out to maximize practice while reducing ammo consumption. The fact that my hands tire after 50-75 rounds is a big factor. Yesterday I was able to place all the rounds in the magazine (15) of my Beretta LTT Compact into a 2 1/2 inch group in both of my last two rounds. (The first round showed my typical warmup with about three flyers to broad the group to 5 inches.). For an 80+ year old with shaky hands I felt pretty good about the day. That exemplified to me exactly what you said in this video. I have other guns I love, Sigs, Brownings, CZs etc. but the 92 just works great for me. Thanks again for a spot-on video.

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[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

What GREAT advice! Just because your favorite “GunTuber” uses X gun, doesn’t mean it’s the best gun for you!

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[@brianwinters5434]

I have read Massod Ayoob since 1974

[@techdeth]

Any bodybuilder would tell you that the triggers start and end position is not the primary goal, it is how we move the trigger from the start and end position. Bodybuilding has radically changed my understand of our physiology, and it's helping me a lot as I learn about firearms. You rock masaad

[@Yoda052]

I’m a small guy that grew up shooting double action revolvers. I had all my 1911’s long triggers swapped out for short triggers. Glocks fit me perfectly although I prefer the SAO trigger on my Sig Legion. All my revolvers have the Miculek grips that make all size S&W frames the same. What a brilliant idea. Nothing fits better than my Combat Commander.

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[@Sagittariustoo]

Thanks for another great lesson, Massad.

[@GunSam]

I am a power crease shooter myself. I know what you mean, I like the M&P semi auto hinged trigger because of this but also I like the feel of the pistol. Felt so good in it's stock configuration, but I wasn't that good with it. I put on the Large size backstrap insert which felt awful in my hand like a brick, but on the range I shoot it so good now.

[@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032]

yeah power crease on wheel guns and 1911's, but my Glock and Canik I like pad pull only because of the lighter trigger pull!

[@greg9076]

@@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032 Your Glock has a lighter trigger pull than your 1911’s? Most production 1911’s are 3.5 to 5.0 pounds.

[@hotuish]

This is so important. 1911’s are perfect for me, can’t miss. With a Glock 19 I have to use the largest backstrap and it feels like shit, but the trigger breaks perfect. My Glock 43x was a mistake to buy. Cannot get it right. Had the grip altered and it’s much better but still not right. I was the same with the Berretta M9. Felt not so good but I could shoot it very well. Of course competing with it in the Marines helped. The sheer number of rounds. But nothing has ever matched the 1911. I was so glad the when I joined the Marine Sniper Platoon that we were hold out with the 1911.

[@HondoTrailside]

For years compound bows sold with grips that felt great in the store, they were heavily contoured. Problem is that they create a lot of torque which destroys accuracy. It took decades for people to get with it, and for the companies to fit their bows with the correct grip. Up until they did, the most comfortable bow grips sold the most bows.

[@47fireguy16]

Long time shooter and in complete agreement. I bought a couple of "mistake" guns and found out at the range I didn't shoot well with them. Find your gun based on your fit and feel and then find a rental to try that gun on the range before you buy.

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[@seanoneil277]

I've watched quite a few of Mas Ayoob's videos and this is the most practical, useful one I've watched. The points about fit, and trigger finger fit to the trigger shoe, are excellent. Some handgun triggers work well when pressed with the pad, some work better when using that "power crease." And some handguns won't let your hand and trigger finger wrap in the optimal way. Same can sometimes apply to rifle triggers, depending on the shape of the trigger shoe and type of shot intended.

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[@sonnysantana5454]

right on both points

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[@mikeorick6898]

I was a member/leader/trainer of military police SWAT teams. There is more to "fit" than your hand. What feels/fits me best these days is the S&W M&P 9 Shield EZ M2.0. Really. May not be the pistola du jour of SEALs and SWAT these days, but I know what works for me and how to work it. The Equalizer is the optics-ready high-capacity version. I don't need/want either of those upgrades.

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[@prongATO]

It’s absolutely amazing, to me, that all of this content is free! Just Mr. Ayoob’s sage advice is worth so much. KZbin and social media (plus Wilson Combat) have greatly enhanced every shooters ability to get quality instruction.

[@jameskelly7782]

I paid class fees to get this information from captain Ayoob in person years ago....worth every penny!

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[@jameskelly7782]

@@osbert750 I thought these scams were over.

[@bandanabanana3162]

Everything you said makes perfect sense. There's nothing like buyers' remorse after spending some time on the range!

[@prestonbowden1008]

I’ve got to admit this is partially why I like Glocks. I know most people say they have a horrendous grips and all of that but with me having rheumatoid arthritis some thing about that grip and grip angle actually fits better.

[@codycornell5036]

I don’t mind the Glocks either! Not my favorite handgun but for me, Glock isn’t as bad as people make it out to be.

[@williamryan9195]

I particularly dislike the grip feel and angle on the Glock even though I am thinking of picking up a 30SF as a concealed option. One of my favorite feeling in hand is an old Ruger p-95 DC I have. The trigger finger reach is near perfect. Glocks are nice but definitely something not suited for some.

[@craigmcelroy2430]

I have a P95 that I have loved for years. Reliably shot everything I put through it including Winchester white box.

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[@thesarge4457]

Thank You Sir.

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[@slowhand1198]

Thanks, Mas.

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[@denisdegamon8224]

As usual and expected, Massad is spot on. This man is truely the expert amoung experts in his field. If I ever found myself in a court legal battle, he would be my first choice for my defense, along with Clint Smith.

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[@bobjackson3307]

Just wanted to give you an update on the video where you talked about chambered round, in handguns and ar-15. I'm now number 32 of friends and family members on the reason you SHOULD NOT keep a round in the chamber of the AR-15. I felt it important to not only speak about this every chance I get. Back on the 4th of July/Family reunion with the mag and no round in the chamber. I showed everyone there as I Racked the empty weapon and dropped, (my AR-15), and then let them drop from around 4" off the lush grass outside or carpeting when indoors. What they found out, was the gun only has to be jarred a little to fire. "CLICK", it does not take much of a Jarring to fire a round off. The act of seeing and doing burns this into everyone's mind who heard the "Click", vs just telling them. Again Thank You for all your videos. You all have a great week. Bob Jackson Papillion, Ne.

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

It’s not the trigger that clicks. It’s the locked bolt moving forward. Watch the video again.

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[@russ_vee_jr4199]

As usual, excellent info and a great presentation. I first saw you when you gave a presentation at the Nashua Fish and Game club in Merrimack NH many, many moons ago. You had your daughter with you that night. I don't remember anything about your subject(s), but I do remember to this day how impressed I was with your presentation and at the time, whatever your subject matter was. All your presentations provide great content presented in the same even and measured tone as seen in this video. Some of us really, really appreciate that. May the winds always be at your back and the sun always on your face........

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[@k_enn]

IMO, a secondary consideration with a handgun, which is related to fit and feel, is whether when you have the pistol gripped in your hand it points naturally where you want it to point.

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[@jimchambers7548]

My 2 favorite pistols are the Sig 229 and the Beretta 92. I find the feel and reliability of both to be equal. I use the 92 for 9mm and the 229 for 40S&W and 357sig. Great topic as usal 👍👍

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[@mrf5347]

Thank you Mr Ayoob!

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[@danpatton3891]

I found the Beretta 96 grips the best for me. I have extremely large palms and moderately large fingers. The larger fatter grip felt like a perfect match. It allowed the lateral position of the barrel to line up with my arm. Then I noticed I couldn't operate the magazine release with my trigger hand. Perfect fit didn't allow for perfect function.

[@gerhardlesch3615]

I tackled the slippery vertical grooves my PT92 AFS front & back straps with no experience but good advice from an experienced toolmaker. The result is quite neat and definitely reduces muzzle flip.

[@S1deshowRob]

My first pistol was a CZ P-10c and I still carry it. I think the ergos and texturing on that thing are perfect. It’s easy to get a high grip and the back strap really bites into your hand and has great traction. A lot of people complain it’s too aggressive but I love it

[@Nadaters]

I found the grip too aggressive but I took some sandpaper to it

[@Nadaters]

@@pearlrocket1000 that new springfield echelon looks neat. Could always get one of those

[@Nadaters]

@pearlrocket1000 I think the only issue I've seen people report is a magazine issue but yeah best to wait and see

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[@californiasun5866]

Hi! Massad: Interesting subject. I agree, fit and feel is an individual thing. To me it is up to the individual to adapt his firearms to him/herself. My first pistol was a Ruger Blackhawk. I truly hated the factory thin grip panels. I made my own. The first ones lacked some wood-metal fit. But I eventually made a truly thick pair out of walnut with good wood-metal fit. Finger grooves, and they filled my hand. And the power of the .357 mag was controlled. But looking back now, I could easily redo them into a fully acceptable better fitting pair, just by removing some wood here and there. I adapted what I learned to later Ruger Single-sixes. But I also eventually got into Smith & Wessons. There I took the factory target grips, and filed off the checkering, and changed the shape some, even adding finger grooves on the left panel. I started out on a M48. I think modified factory target grips, done my way, should be standard on Smith & Wessons. Then I got a stainless M29 (629? I forget the number). I did the same thing there with the factory target grips and finger grooves. Then back to a Ruger Security Six. I had no factory grips to fit my needs. I started out with two blocks of wood, and inlet the grip frame into the wood. I shaped the wood by feel. I ended up with a pair of grips a lot like what i did for the Smith & Wessons, including finger grooves. When I go out to do some shooting I truly find it hard to choose between the Smith & Wesson (629?) or a Ruger Security Six. Both fit and feel perfect, and are a real pleasure to shoot. You mentioned long arms, and I was going to skip over that. But then I remembered I have a Remington 600 .308. The factory forearm was boxy and uncomfortable. I took a file to the checkering and boxed shape. I made it a very simple rounded forearm. Much more comfortable to carry and shoot. I can't imagine how anyone who doesn't know how to work with their hands could find satisfaction, other than by trial and error. Which is what relying on someone else's fit and feel is.

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[@latigomorgan]

A few years ago, I went to a DA/SA CZ75 P01 as I really loved the way that pistol feels in my hands. Before that, I was a 1911 guy, then an XD45. Both felt good in my hand and I was able to use the pad of my finger easily as the SA trigger pull made it easy. With the DA/SA, I had some problems with that first shot being accurate because it was about double the pull weight of the followup SA shots. I just wasn't sure the pistol was right for me, if I couldn't get more accuracy. It was during dry fire practice that I tried the distal joint and had the "Hallelujah" revelation. Since then, after more practice, the first shot from DA is now as accurate as the SA follow ups. It wasn't easy undoing years of muscle memory where that pad naturally came to rest on the trigger, though.

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[@jimd8008]

As always words of wisdom

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[@jerryreynolds4731]

When I carried a S&W Mod 19, had small factory grips with a Tyler T-grip, just felt like shaking hands with a tried and true best friend...........a Glock felt really good also, but the lack of a true safety always had an uneasy feeling when carrying.........then went to 1911 9mm, did not feel as good, but the safety factor felt better.....

[@philipdonhauser2184]

Content is always great. Suggestion: consider wearing contrasting shirts to the weapons discussed. Dark color or black shirts when holding back handguns reduces clarity of message. Regards, Phil

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[@brucewarren5248]

After watching a number of your videos, especially some very old ones, I have a new respect for "gun control." No one should be allowed to have a firearm until they have watched your videos! I am frightened by how much I did not previously know even though I've used guns for more than 50 years.

[@onenikkione]

So true

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[@MrChuckwagon55]

Massad is the absolute best.

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[@rubinbegeja]

I have the opposite feeling-fit. For me the Beretta feels better, but my score is more precise with the Sig P226. Everyone hands are different and the guns are like the shoes. The best is what you fit better with

[@DandDskeeto]

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[@alterego6935]

The best test I have found for fit is to close my eyes, pick up the gun, point it, and then open my eyes and see if it's pointing where I felt that it was. For me, this has translated well to performance on the range. Maybe it's just me, not touting myself as an expert, but give it a try and see what you think.

[@joshuar3632]

I got an old "backwoods home" magazine with a big article written by massad

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[@TeranRealtor]

Years ago, I had a Colt Det Spcl snubbie that would shoot almost exactly where I would "point" my gun hand. Just a little high, but straight down the middle. No effort at all. It just "fit" correctly. Wish I still had that gun.

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[@brianfalls5038]

Hey there Massad, great video sir! Good info and very educational. Concerning the trigger pull on pistols, I know for my own self that I prefer using the pad of my trigger finger when I am shooting vs. going all the way to the joint. I found that if I go to the joint then I tend to push my pistol to the side some. When I use just the pad of my finger then I find that I tend to pull the trigger straighter and my groupings are tighter too. Keep up the fine videos sir. And BTW, my edc is a 1911 Commander model that I absolutely love! It shoots plenty straight

[@onpsxmember]

Now the pad itself is still big. I currently prefer the area in the last third before the joint where there is less meat and a flat bone bit is pushes through.

[@ramborob9777]

The. Man. Yoda. Gun Master. Teacher. God Bless Massad.

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[@paulphillips5304]

Your the best instructor massad, thanks for all the great info.👍

[@wissn2112]

I gravitated in 90s glock 23/19 I still love them. Carry was little bulky. When I found 365XL. It was a new love. I have smaller hands so I think this just falls into my hand perfectly.. If you hold each one out one handed. Take the other hand and put some force on the front end and push to your left. See which one firmly stays in a good grip compared to say the g23 gen2 wanting to roll slightly out of your palm. I can shoot the g23 just fine. But the XL stays firmly in Palm place. Which is needed in stressful situations in my opinion. The longer slide gives it a 1911 slide feel being longer and slim. Though 1911 doesn't really fit me. And I also have a p90 with Kurt custom stainless guide rod.

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[@Un-Kal-El]

Don't be afraid to go beyond Glocks. Just because it's perfect for your buddy or your coworker, it doesn't mean it's right for you. Try different ones when you can; you may be surprised what's comfortable.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Mark Smith from The Four Boxes Diner gave a big shout out to Mr. Ayoob.

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[@nommadd5758]

Great tips! Thank you!

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[@ArthurFrancis7593]

Definitely the joint, [not pad] much steadier & smoother.

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[@menegene4129]

Glad to have a pistol with adjustable back straps. Until I switched over to the large, one consistent problem I had was tightening fingers. After enlarging the grip I got a lot more consistent and shot groups were tighter. As far as the butt stock on a rifle goes, couldn't agree more. We Zeroed slick at my Basic Officers Leader's Course, but definitely had to collapse the stock wearing the IOTV. SGLs yelled at us for it, but it worked better 🤷

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[@sergeantraven794]

Exceptional,well-thought of presentation, delivered in clever and concise manner. Thank you, Critical Mas!

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[@anthonycalbillo9376]

Thank you, and yes, this was helpful for me, because double stack, or Glock, or Smith and Wesson (did not work for me). 1911s, did, and that's what I went with.

[@pastordoogie8438]

Excellent Video!

[@billrennolds7947]

The Best!!!

[@zachhyatt6351]

Thank you for the education.

[@stevefeeser1891]

Excelent video!! I have small hands (no really small for a guy). Double action semis just don't fit me at all. I hate the M92 - brick with a trigger!! After this video I can put words to what I've been thinking for years. Thanks!! Keep em coming!

[@interiorak]

well done. Form thought and feeling !

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[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Love your videos kind sir! Thanks.. I'm a big Sig fan.. I worked at a range and shot many thousands of rounds and the Sig p228 which is what our local police used for a long time shot so well for me..

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[@stevemckinney5839]

One element of fit that you did not talk about is the overall size of the pistol. I had to give up on my SIG P-238 because I simply could not hang on to it. The handle is very short. In the same caliber, my Walter PPK/S has more handle and I can shoot it well. The size of my hands pretty much dictate a minimum size of pistol to shoot well.

[@marie-noellebaechler1433]

Thank you very much for this extremely interesting video, as always. It may be interesting to develop a small set of standard exercices that may help shooters to evaluate how a given gun fit them in a more structure way. - for shooting, this test must include strings of fires done with the strong hand, with both hands and with the weak hand only - It must also includes elements like a "chamber check", loading, unloading the the reaction to the usual troubles (failure to feed, double feed, and so on) - It must be also done in adverse conditions, for example at night, under a heavy rain, when it is freezing and when it is very hot, not only in an indoors range. - For example, it may be quite refreshing to do discover that you have trouble handling safely your favorite firearm under heavy rain. And this gives food for thought

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[@glennrishton5679]

I have a S&W model 29 round butt. In my fairly large hands the grips are far too small but shooting it the grips are great, better under recoil than the square butt style grips.

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[@jamesdelong6401]

Nail on the head. 💯. I watch and hear about to MANY men and women buying a firearm because it ' looks cool '. Im ALL for that. But! When it comes to a EDC pistol. That person REALLY needs to base that pistol or pistols they like to have for home defense and EDC. If your local gun shop/range offers rental pistol and has the one you are thinking about purchasing. Rent it and go fire it. Then choose.

[@DougMcDave]

Yesterday, I had trouble with my trigger reach in that it was too short, on my Ruger Security 9-compact. The result was I accidentally pulled to the left of the target. I had to do weird things with the index finger, which requires too much compensation. I tried a bigger gun, my brother-in-law's P320, with better results.

[@terryschiller2625]

Thank you Mr Ayoob.

[@frosty3693]

Right on. I have small hands, and a short trigger finger, it is anoying that with every new 1911 I have to replace the trigger with a shorter one. Fortunately, that is not hard. Maybe some of the new SIGs are better but every one I tried had a stupid long trigger reach. You can mitigate that by rolling your hand around the grip to give you more reach to the trigger but that reduces the power of your grip. But I think, with the isosceles grip/stance (vs the Weaver stance) that may help with trigger reach and keep a good grip by using both hands to grip the pistol. I'm no expert, but that is the way it seems and may a reason some PD's taught the isosceles stance as it gave smaller officers, with smaller hands a better chance to have a better grip on the pistols used at the time. (during the transtion to the "wonder nines") A reason Bill Jordan could shoot the N frame S&Ws so well was he had huge hands. There is a picture of his hand with a quarter in it. It looked like a dime in our hands.

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[@fourchanner]

There's places where you can rent handguns and shoot them at the indoor range. That will help you find the best pistol for your personal needs and wants.

[@musicman1eanda]

The main issue I've found with that though is that many of them don't allow "rapid" fire. When buying a new handgun, I'd really prefer to see how it works shooting reactively as well as predictively, and both of those paces are faster than 1-3 second splits by far.

[@daleparker4207]

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[@takedeadaim8671]

I’ve much respect for your experience and expertise and have read articles you wrote back when there were many gun magazines for which you wrote. However I must disagree on the use of the crease of the first knuckle as being more powerful, I find in teaching new shooters using the pad helps a smooth straight trigger press. As an experienced long and extreme long range shooter shooting with a vertical (or near vertical) grip and moving the shooting hand thumb to the outside against a thumb rest has increased my accuracy at a point in life when one might expect that to diminish. Your mileage my vary, I completely agree with your point that the target will tell.

[@charlesgillette2925]

Excellent

[@NordicViking88]

Love my WC365 grip time will tell if it will help with accarcy but so far it carries better feels better in the hand and more recoil control helps out

[@Fabrizio_Ruffo]

I wanted a Hellcat. But the P365 simply fit my hand better. The way the trigger guard didn't rubbed my middle finger as much, and my ability to wrap my fingers farther around it gave me better grip, despite there being less gun to actually grab. I also liked the lighter stippling, because I have soft girly hands, and rough grips get uncomfortable when I'm death gripping the gun like the newb I am. That last part might be more my fault than the gun.

[@rebelscumspeedshop]

One would think with the polymer chasi system that a company could make a grip just for your hand so it's perfect. I'd pay extra for that.

[@normanmaynor5705]

Thank you Sir,it’s true fit vs feel I guess the only way to embrace both would be to find a gun shop that has a range and rents guns where you can try before you buy .P.S. the Wilson combat grip module for the P365 is excellent thank you

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[@kc0lif]

great advice.

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[@alan2a1l]

Thank you, Massad! It's funny -- the first training class I had, the instructor recommended the Beretta and I fell in love with the feel of that gun. I have big hands, long fingers, and it's a big, beautiful gun. But I wasn't shooting well. I switched to the Glock 19 and my shooting improved radically. It felt angular & uncomfortable, but I shoot better with it and that's the first gun I bought. Now, with your explanation, I finally understand, in detail, why. Fit vs. Feel. It's a big deal. 🙂

[@CWR66]

I have a Smith and Wesson M&P full size that feels great in my hand but I can't hit squat with it. I have a Glock 17 that feels like I'm holding a 2x4 but I shoot it very well.

[@ron8566]

Nice job with the explanation. Thank you.

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[@sierramtnswest]

WOW how "time" fly's - a century of the 1911 living! But, then again - I'm way past the halfway mark.

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[@jddrafts]

In 2020 I had an older coworker as me what handgun she should buy. In our state its legal to keep one in your glove box without a permit so I pointed out if it was just going to be a glovebox/bedside gun size wasn't as big a deal but if it was a carry gun, she would need to find the balance between size, capacity and recoil that would work for her. I told her in any event the thing to do was to go to a range, they were still open here, and rent a variety of guns to see what she likes before settling on one. She ended up going with a Smith and Wesson. Fast forward three years. She asks what the process is for selling a gun, always being in the market I of course wanted to know more. She is looking to sell her Smith and Wesson because it's too hard to rack the slide. All I could think was, so you didn't take my advice about spending a little up front to try before you buy and here you are now.

[@greg9076]

Don’t be too hard on her. You said she’s older. Three years could have affected her hands to where now, she has trouble racking the slide where before, she didn’t. Also, I’ve found as an instructor, many women haven’t been shown various ways to make racking the slide easier. The way they’ve “always done it” no longer works and they give up when they may not have to. Cheers

[@jddrafts]

@@greg9076 that's true. I didn't say anything to her about it other than that as long as they are a legal resident of our state and she doesn't know they are a prohibited person she can just sell the gun to anyone but if she wants peace of mind, she can always go to a gun store and do it that way.

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[@robertmarino3341]

Very timely video. When I went to pick up my EDCX9 couple weeks ago, waiting on my NICS, The pistol felt like it was designed for my hand, as mentioned in the video. When I took it to the range, a few days later, I felt my left thumb was too far up on the slide - uncomfortably so and the trigger too short. My next go round at the range was a little better, but still was not comfortable in my hand like my PDP and XC. I ordered the large backstrap replacing the small one that came with the gun and I’m hoping that’ll along with possibly using tje trigger crease instead of the finger pad, will make it a more comfortable gun as I was fully expecting.

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[@aliceburte9278]

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