Massca - M2 Pocket Hole Jig System! FULL REVIEW!

[@OutontheRanchwithDrLee-xb4lo]

Now THAT'S a cool jig! Well-thought out device! Love the vac attachment capability! Great vid, David!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks Dr Lee!!! 🙏🏻 I really love it - Solid build quality, and versatile. I’m still very much a beginner woodworker, and it helps us out so much to build different projects! Thanks so much for checking out the video!! 😎

[@tomfrantz]

Your own jig addition is perfect.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I still use it even now!

[@gkinghsmith9352]

dude you are the best, extremely through and you do a great job hitting the important points.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks for the comment seriously!! Been buried up, so apologies for the delayed response! Thanks for the support! 💪🏻

[@theftworthrealtor]

I bought the Massca M2 and have been disappointed. I have been using a kreg clamp on jig for years, so this was going to be a big upgrade, or so I thought. I was excited to use it on my woodshop cabinet project, so when I received it, I put it right to work...I carefully followed the setup for the drill block as well as the stop collar on the drill guide. I loved that it clamped to my MFT top and the dust collection was great. The problem came when I started to assemble my cabinets a couple of weeks later...when I drove the pocket hole screws home, they were piercing through the side of the face panel. At first I thought that maybe I had made a mistake during the setup, so using a couple of scrap pieces I confirmed the settings and drilled again...same result. I had drilled the material for 4 cabinets so this turned out to be a huge problem...since I was not about to throw away perfectly good birch ply, I was forced to cut the tips off about 3/16 on almost 100 pocket hole screws. In the end it worked, but there is something off on the jig. To get the jig to drill a hole that will not pierce the face panel on 3/4 ply I am forced to set the block way off on the 2nd mark between the 1/2 & 3/4 and I have to set the depth stop using the next setting of 7/8 on the circle depth gauge. I tried a number of combinations, this was the only way I was able to get it to stop drilling holes too deep. The other issue I have is with the clamp, it works great for a little while, but when batching out parts it tends to come loose and you have to stop and readjust...the pocket holes in ply are also not as clean as I am used to with the cheap Kreg I have been using....I was going to return it, but I missed my window with Amazon by a couple of days. It's disappointing to spend $130 on a product only to have to then jerry rig it for it to work properly...

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Definitely good feedback and I’ve gotten to know the Massca team over the years, reach out to them on Instagram see if they will work with you to find out why this happened. I’ve never had my screws blow through a workpiece. Not saying you set it up wrong but issues with manufacturing aren’t impossible either, and no doubt they’d love to get to the bottom of a problem like that because it’s not what they stand for. Thanks for sharing your experience and good luck in the future

[@Super_64]

I am so glad I bought this over the blue brand

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Well said!!! And I agree! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thanks for the support!

[@normalperson1475]

I was *this* close this morning to head out to Lowes to purchase the K-720 Pro when the video I was reading the comments under said to read up on the Massca Pocket Hole Jig. So I typed Massca into the YT search feature and your vid was pretty close to the top if not at the top of the list. Just your vid convinced me to give the Massca a try. I went to the Massca site (MasscaProductsDOTcom) and looked over their selection. I chose the M2, Bundle #6 and sent my order in. Within seconds, my confirmation was at my Yahoo email addy. It will be here in 2-6 days! I like the way you fastened it to a piece of plywood and your parts storage. My trick will be to improve on that by some of the suggestions posted throughout all the comments here. I just now subscribed and am hoping the rest of your vids are this explanatory, (Whatever your) first name (is)! Take care

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Truly appreciate this comment!! My name is David, and no worries I don’t say it much! Thank you for subscribing, we’ve got a good slate of videos set for 2023, and couple more this year before the end as well. I think you’ll love the Massca jig, it’s been a great value for me over the last few years, I recommend it every chance I get.

[@talegunner115]

The rods are stainless steel not aluminum. When you click these together you KNOW its not aluminum. The lock down for the board, in my unit, was changed out with Armor upgrade. No drilling necessary since the holes line up when installing the upgrade. Now my unit lock onto the wood without having to change the screw setting because it doesn't have a screw. This, in my opinion, creates the best of all jigs out there. I watched the WoodWorking Garage and learned the upgrade. Tough Guys thank you for this video. I agree this is one of the best out there.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Hey thanks for the comment!! Glad you enjoyed the video and I agree that Massca is doing things right! I hope to see more from their lineup in the future - hoping they can keep bringing great tools to market.

[@nicholasmarshall3191]

Very helpful. Thanks.

[@danschilling5863]

I built a similar jig before the new model came out with 9/16s wood. Instead of building a box, I was going to screw a small tupperware to the jig. Also to not lose the drill depth guide you could take tiny flexible wire and tether it to the jig long enough to move out of the way and reach the massca base.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks for the tips Dan - much appreciated!! Also thanks for checking out the video - hope you enjoyed!

[@rockyravine1155]

Great video. I ordered the Kreg 520 but then I saw this video and I realized the Kreg is all plastic so I canceled and ordered the M2

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I think you made the right choice! I’ve been using mine for a couple years now, still working as I expect and looks great too. The aluminum build is fantastic! Good luck and thanks for watching!

[@kenpowell4323]

This video helped out tremendously. Thank you!!

[@markflores7276]

Great information on this tool man!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thank you!! Def tried to cover it completely! Thanks for watching

[@TheJerham68]

A magnetic strip attached to the plywood would hold nearly all the additional items to the jig. Just a thought

[@terrymiller8597]

i haven't gone through the comments, but to add to your cool set-up you could make a hinged "lid" to cover those extra parts. maybe a small magnet to keep it shut?

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Yeah that’s a solid idea!!

[@saltwaterpurl]

Thank you for the videos! Maybe in a future vid show how the removable with plate part works... if you haven’t already ☺️

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks so much!!! Yes I do need to show that off for sure! Thanks for checking out the video

[@TechieTard]

SOLD!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

That’s awesome!! I hope you enjoy it!

[@SpeedyWeber]

You could hot glue a magnet to the tool tray to hold the other bits more solidly. I use magnets on every tool to help keep things together.

[@carlbrothers]

I have the red one, and I am not in love with it after using it for a while. This looks very nice, but maybe I am just a sucker for solid aluminum things. The singular flaw/annoyance is the clamp on the back side. For larger panels that will be an issue.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Overall I’ve been very happy with the Massca jigs and I’m a sucker for the solid aluminum as well!! Thanks for checking out the video!! 💪🏻

[@lmcbride3355]

I like this. Very impressed. Think I'll eBay one for myself.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Are you not able to order via the link in the description?? Thanks for checking out the video!! It’s a solid setup, and a great company to work with as well. 💪🏻

[@jerrymorrison2956]

Thanks for your videos. I just placed an order for one. I too am a sucker for solid aluminum. I have been using the aluminum one from HF for years and did add my version of dust collection. I am looking forward to this ones dust collection. Just one idea or modification: I purchased an auto lock t track clamp at "R" wood working store and replaced the clamp with it. Its a great upgrade to my HF jig and I will move it to my new Massca jig.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks man!!! Yes I LOVE the solid Aluminum build - and the I keep finding little hacks for these extension arms too. I've got a desk build underway where I feature this one and the M1, as well as the 2-Hold more basic jig which actually has some great uses too. I appreciate the support, and you taking the time to comment!!

[@NebulaM57]

Very nicely done! Thank you!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thank you!! Always appreciate the feedback! 🙏🏻

[@lacttech]

Informative video. Thanks

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks for watching! Glad you got something good from it

[@BType13X2]

Was in the market for a pocket-hole jig bought this, looks a lot better than the Kreg Jig. Kreg makes some cool stuff but building everything out of plastic and charging a premium (more than competitors are charging for aluminum) is something they need to address. Either update the materials or chunk the cost down.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I couldn’t agree more!! Hope you love the jig and thanks for watching!! 💪🏻

[@mr.nobody4900]

Well, I am sold just made a purchase of Massca Aluminum Pocket Hole Jig System Set -M1 @ Amazon.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

So glad you liked the video and made a purchase!! You won’t be disappointed! 🙏🏻

[@vinnieromano1336]

Like the way you mounted it on the plywood. I think screwing a small plastic container with lid instead of the way you boxed it in.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

That’s a great idea actually! Thanks for checking out the video!

[@nymack66]

Love this over the Blue boys!!!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Hey thanks for the love! I love my Massca as well 👍🏻

[@goodboyringo9716]

Nice platform for the jig . Make a door or cover for the ( Keeping the parts tools from being lost ) platform.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

That’s a good idea actually was just thinking about it again the other day. Thanks for watching!!

[@spkendrick]

Definitely a cool jig. But imo. Nothing beats the kreg k4 with armor tool self adjusting arm. I like the depth guide being built into the body of the k4 jig, I think i would loose that little depth guide . I love the aluminum though . How is it keeping up with that depth guide? I’ve noticed kreg went to that style also

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Mine is just fine, I keep it on that board I built, never have any issues loosing anything. If I was someone that needed to take it with me in the truck / travel with it I'd be more concerned - but I try to keep pretty organized. I vote for the build quality over some of the smaller issues - plus the company itself is top notch, love the people over at Massca, and nowadays that goes a long way for me too. Thanks for checking out the video and for the comment!

[@tomfrantz]

thank you

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thank you for checking out the video!

[@hawk7748]

Great video! Could someone please explain why the adjustable depth stop ( the round plastic do-hicky ) is important or is better? For most of the other pocket hole jigs, the drill bit is only backed up approx 1/8" from the surface regardless of stock size. Thanks in advance!

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

Those stabilizers can become stops or supports at the same time check it .1👍🙏 God bless thanks.

[@thewatcher7211]

Nice 👍🏽

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@jimcastino]

How do I secure those steel rods from moving out of the pre drilled holes in the base??

[@TheToughGuysTV]

There should be 2 locking bolts provided with the kit, they are brass

[@BinleyClan]

Do they provide the vacuum attachment for a shop vac?

[@TheToughGuysTV]

It has an input for a vac built in yes. My Ridgid vac hooked right up to it with no additional adaptor

[@pd417]

Great detailed video. I like the fact it’s all aluminum, looks like a solid tool. Although, I am concerned about the blowout and what’s causing it. For the price and all the great features of this jig, you’d think the Massca engineers would figure out a way to correct this problem.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Overall I'm still very happy with my Massca lineup, they make some great quality products no doubt. I experience the same blow out when drilling against the grain with any pocket hole jig I've ever used, just seems like a 'against the grain' or 'with the grain' issue to me, or maybe drill bits aren't sharp enough, or I'm going to fast, etc. but I don't feel like it's the jig itself. Thanks for the support!

[@pd417]

@@TheToughGuysTV The blowout issue won’t deter me from getting this jig, the quality and attention to detail is much better than other brands, especially the blue one. Massca is about 30 min from where I live. I spoke with the owner a couple weeks ago and said I could stop by, see the jig and play with it.

[@leblunt27]

Only difference the guides from from the M1?

[@TheToughGuysTV]

As far as I could tell yes - the stabilizing arms are the added change. Thanks for checking out the video! Also - if you have an M1 already, I think they sell a conversion kit.

[@rolfschubert1853]

Nice presentation. It looks like a fairly well built tool but I think it lacks in one major way. The guide block is aluminium. The Kreg jig, while mostly plastic, has hardened steel guide blocks. Over time, the aluminum guides will be destroyed by the drill bit.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I'm pretty sure there is a steel ring in the guide block, so the bit is touching steel - could be wrong of course, just my understanding. Thanks for checking out the video!

[@andyhodge2836]

Massca has hardened steel drill guides as well

[@themariatanner]

New subscriber here. 😁 Is there anyway you can add captions to your videos? Looks like you gave a great review and look forward to hearing it when I have a chance. Thank you!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I will definitely look into how I can do this, thank you for reaching out about it! 🙏🏻

[@yuttie21]

very informative video : )

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks so much - glad you think so!! If you grab one of these circle back and let me know how the experience is. Thanks again for checking out the video!

[@yuttie21]

@@TheToughGuysTV I just got one :D

[@MB-zz3bg]

The jig is in many ways very well designed, but the clamping system leaves marks in plywood and soft wood like poplar. The Kreg gig i have does NOT do this at all.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Thanks for that note!! I've not seen that issue on my end, but I'll look out for it for sure!

[@matthew0387]

Can you use Kreg brand screws with this jig

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I do all the time yes. I use a lot of Kreg exterior 2-1/2 screws to be specific. You can order screws from Massca as well, and they are consistently trying to expand so no doubt their stuff will be more available at a store level at some point.

[@enushalu2548]

Very nice overview ! What is the Drill size ? (for replacements)

[@TheToughGuysTV]

That's a great question!!! I actually do not know the answer off the top here - check with www.masscaproducts.com to be sure - they may list in the product spec for you. Thanks for checking out the video!

[@chriscollins7586]

@@TheToughGuysTV did you try the Kreg drill bit in the slot by chance?

[@chedtk]

That’s the same as the trend pocket hole jig but with different name

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Yes I believe originally they were licensing the same tool, but they’ve made some great improvements as well as added exclusive products to their line up over the last couple years, definitely making some great tools - check them out!

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

How much for the m2 massca pocket hole jig.👍🙏

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Not sure, but check their site - should be links in the video description 👍🏻

[@patrickarchuleta9594]

Use impactor it will give you much better pocket holes.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I personally don’t like using an impact driver because I feel I overdrive the screws more easily, just personal preference.

[@andrewbazeley7274]

Why can’t we buy it in the UK 🇬🇧

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I believe in the UK it’s a brand called Trend instead.

[@parolajd]

First thing I did was buy a small tool box to store everything together.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Not a bad idea for sure!

[@feliciapersfull8658]

I tried to order, but says sold out!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

They keep stock rolling pretty solid, check back for sure!! Reach out to them on Instagram as well.

[@Hotled1944]

Try the Armor jig

[@TheToughGuysTV]

I’ve looked into those, they look pretty cool! I’m good with my setup for now but maybe down the road. Thanks! 🙏🏻

[@Hotled1944]

@@TheToughGuysTV Ya I have the Massca M2 as well , very solid.

[@danielwrekly3921]

Dude u usyn da wrng drill use a ryobi 😁

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Been thinking about getting some Ryobi stuff, got a 18ga nailer recently, really liked it.

[@catman2000able]

Trend Pro is exactly the same

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Yes that’s the licensed version outside the US (my understanding)

[@numbersix7193]

Do not recommend this tool, terrible customer service. Sending mine back.

[@TheToughGuysTV]

What specifically was wrong? Did you reach out to them for help? Was it just defective? If you’re going to take the time to say something negative, give it context at least so it can be helpful, and best case the company sees it and makes a positive change. 👍🏻

[@StephenMattison66]

6 second intro max, please! Long intros lose viewers!

[@TheToughGuysTV]

Totally understand, I've made some changes to my newer posts to change up the intro sequence. Just doing this because I love making videos, I'm not at professional videographer. ✌🏻