MASSIVE BATTLES IN MIRKWOOD - Lothlorien - Third Age Total War Divide and Conquer | Part 15

[@anarionelendili8961]

1. Do not disband. The biggest issue for the elves is manpower, and you don't just waste it with disbanding. Especially when you have that big Dol Guldur stack coming, too, which will kill a lot of your warriors anyway, so don't throw them away for nothing. Seek out enemy armies and gain some use out of them. 2. Especially don't disband small units: the upkeep scales with the manpower of the unit, so you only gain a few coins, whereas you can retrain those troops in a turn if you spot an enemy army coming. Or they can garrison a fort or a settlement and act as a speedbump. 3. Send your Woodland elites to Thranduil's Hall. I didn't check to make sure (they could have been part of the Doomstack), but if they can be recruited there, they will get free upkeep there, which will save you a couple of thousand, while helping to ensure that it doesn't fall. Send a general to lead them, too. 4. Take settlements. You are on borrowed time, so don't stop to rest. Those armies need to move, kill Dol Guldur armies and take new settlements, or you will be in a debt spiral. Also, it will keep Dol Guldur pushed back, which means that they are less able to wrap around you and besiege everywhere. The sooner you get to join your realms and start pushing out, creating a protected core in the middle, the better.

[@michaelmacdonald2226]

Also he needs to bump all his settlements to very high tax, do his best to have a general in each if possible or if it provides a boost to income (some don't, depends on skills). Growth is great and all but that's really when you're trying to upgrade to the next level, not even close to maxing out any of them with buildings so growth means nothing at time. Another person also mentioned going through you settlements and removing buildings you don't need. That's also helpful for immediate cash to start digging you out of debt. Pushing to take more settlements is also great to lose troops (less maintenance) and also more income

[@alabaster6117]

This is why I told him to build hall of music. Culture and upkeep slot.

[@thebodyH2O]

The speedbump thing REALLY works well. AI is dumb, but we can RP it like its a deception tactic of the elves occupying an abandoned fort and making it look like there's alot of soldiers there.

[@andrewrichardson6252]

This series made me become a member just to support! To echo what others said: -destroy orc buildings -keep conquering to get more money. You’ll gain more money through new settlements and wages will go down as your armies get smaller

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

I think you gotta clear the northern section asap while you got a lot of forces. Also don't be to afraid to merge or loose them. They cost a loooot. That equity acquirement came with undisclosed expenses. Longer you have those armies just standing and waiting longer it will take you to balance the budget.

[@alperenalpural492]

yes, i agree also he forgot about the army in the south i think he have to use them too

[@nicholasmcclure1959]

The comeback against Dol Guldor the past couple episodes has been pretty epic

[@michaelpeterson2539]

Just finished the last episode, bam another one. Keep ‘em coming.

[@maximusd26]

also Legolas's unit, the hir-e Daur (or however it's spelled) are just BROKEN, their arrows go through ennemies and you can beat an army with just them

[@Ancantar]

Use your custom generals more, they are just taking up gold upkeep turn after turn, especially the Galadhrim archers guy and his brothers. Send that stack to Beorn's Hall. At the North, Legolas can hold the west city by himself with 2-3 units, but I see the Erebor has the city north-west so you could just send whole stack back ... leave a governor (generic bodyguard) . Send the rest east to Thranduil's Hall, with the Elven King. He should clear the Dol Guldur hosts in that area. Then push through the middle Mirkwood regions.

[@anarionelendili8961]

Samiman5606 made a good point: You should go through your settlements and find out if there are any buildings that you can't use. i think Beast/Troll cages or some such? Wargs might give you cavalry. Anyway, you might be able to find a few thousand gold that way. Not enough to put you back to black, but at least help a bit.

[@samiman5606]

@anarionelendili8961 Yeah that's true he can cover up all his bankruptcy coffers with money he can gain from destroying all orcish settlements in his elfs city's more than what everyone expects if he's smart he can gain over 10k coins by destroying orcish settlements already

[@Reinfarcements]

49:04 I am convinced anybody who has played Dynasty Warriors as a kid has this phrase burned into their mind.

[@Abdulla_Ahmed]

Yours this plathrough introduced me to this game. Did not know this type of game existed

[@alexford4405]

Great to see you using your archers and the terrain more efficiently! Great ep keep up the good fight.

[@danielcookies7417]

Hey Apollo! I really wanted to say that congratulations with such an amazing success in your channel! I’ve been subscribed to you for many years; seen your progress, and I gotta say I am happy to have been there to see it ♥️ much love and thank you for all that you do for us!!!

[@Atari5732]

When I played the campaign, I had this same problem - since you can't restart and focus on building money producing buildings; you can disband diplomats/spies, take the ransoms, take as many settlements as possible, open up every trade route possible, all while going maximum taxes and negative growth. If you get lucky you might also get a mission that pays well.

[@StandingWithUkraine]

I'm watching this backwards. You're doing great Apollo.

[@brave_omelette4]

Enjoying This Series, Hope Your channel grows

[@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ]

I think you should accept financial crisis and just attack Dol Guldur as rapidly as possible capturing as many settlements as you can and not staying in one place. You have at least three good armies now and maybe can gather another one from units scattered here and there, and each of those armies can capture a settlement or two per episode. It may even be reasonable to left no garrison in some less important settlements - just destroy all orcish buildings there, move away all your forces to capture new settlements and let Dol Guldur re-capture those unimportant villages. You will be able to re-capture them again and consolidate your realm after you crush main Dol Guldur forces and establish working economy.

[@wyattwalley2449]

electric episode these keep getting better

[@peter-shauntyrell5613]

Just keep pushing with your new armies and take over as many settlements. Occupy them and leave as many units in them for the free upkeep. Good luck!

[@samiman5606]

If you want alot of money you must destroyed the orcish settlement in your elves city's

[@customhub7941]

these type of videos are so good man rings back memories i always loved them

[@oranlyons9265]

hi Apollo I've been a massive fan down through the years I love this campaign, I've only recently got medieval two and I've fallen in love with the game due to your content thought the years big fan all the way from Ireland cant wait to see you hit one million subs

[@evertisakjulius2249]

Man I remember watching your videos in 2009. Time flies. Great to see you're still doing videos!❤️

[@00Andreas00]

He created his account in 2012?

[@sjondon5218]

Legolas' arrows are really good, they can penetrate and thus hit multiple enemies so you should use them on blobs or high value targets.

[@snowycaesar5451]

the nostalgia of lord of the rings battles is insane

[@madzera_x]

I'm really enjoying it as well, keep up the energy!

[@erickennedyespinaii7339]

There is a special building that will allow you to train some units of the woodland realm

[@BrentLecompte]

I love watching your content, I haven't bought these games but I just chill and watch to relax and turn my brain off

[@xenosophont]

Lothlorien in DaC has a good "theme" (the Goldenwood itself is enough to set it apart from the usual faction), nice scripts, a decent roster and most importantly: a GREAT starting position especially with the whole "theater of war" in mind for the War of the Ring. Smack dab in the heat of the action in close proximity to a lot of iconic Middle Earth foes and allies with a lot of options/avenues to focus on. Focusing on Dol Guldur first is the obvious "default" way to go and it's actually paying off quite nicely here because DG happened to BLOW UP in terms of becoming an absolute superpower in this game and both you and Thranduil's Realm would have certainly been doomed if you haven't hit them hard ASAP. It was quite nice narrative-wise to save Thranduil's Realm from certain destruction at the last minute with the Alliance Script when they had only the single capital province left. Keep up the good fight! I appreciate you playing/showcasing the better pre-Warscape TW iterations out there. There are some great Third Age TW/Middle Earth based M2TW mods coming soon btw: Epic Unity Rework (based on DaC), Conflicts of Eriador and a new version for DCI: Last Alliance (they're all on moddb).

[@jorenverbiest5193]

i wouldn't disband BUT some tips. - Check the cities you conquered and destroy the dol guldur buildings that DON'T add anything to you like the Brawl pits (only something for orcs) you get some money - instead of disbanding in worst case try to put units together IF they are like the same 'level'. in that way you can go from 2 elven archers with same upgrades to 1 which gives like 300-400 extra gold cuz elves upkeep are very expensive (u do lose a possible healed extra unit tho) - go around more with diplomats to get money, sometimes if i ask like 100 gold cuz i don't want factions to reject, they possibly give more than the 100 (200-couple thousands) --> this is not the exploit cuz the exploit is that you ask = rejected = ask again next round and then sometimes you get thousands but that's not fun - use your forts (there is one for example next to thranduils halls, put 4 units there and you save possibly 1500 coin - units can only be 'free upkeep' in places where they are trained so some of those good elven units with the red capes probably only get free upkeep in Thranduils Halls - Thranduils Halls are great i played as mirkwood. I eventually had free upkeep there for 10 units atleast

[@DanielSpaghetti]

Dont be afraid to lose the mirkwood elves, even though you cant replenish them it will certainly help the economy

[@markmcilyvee]

Hey Apollo. For some quick cash go through your settlements and look for any orc buildings especially ones you can’t use or can easily replace with elven ones. Demolishing them will recoup some cash and some of them may even be ruining your culture. Keep up the good work.

[@Strider5598]

Keep up the series Apollo I know that these campaigns can get frustrating but I hope you’ll keep uploading

[@isaiahsullivan7199]

I just beat my lothlorien campaign. Faith in you Apollo, good luck!

[@dominicmcdaniel3136]

I love the elves

[@alabaster6117]

Apollo, music halls. I said music halls, not just culture buildings 😂 some of your upkeep costs would have been neutralized by now.

[@Kid.Poker33]

Thanks for the content man!

[@maximusd26]

7:20 a little tip, they (bodyguards) do not in fact, come back. general units are limited to 77 so when a unit like Thranduil's guard takes damage here, they'll never get back to their full number

[@SwiftAssassin2dy]

you can retrain any special general units at certain settlements back to their full number, usually at your capital but sometimes other settlements and im not sure what the rules are that govern where

[@maximusd26]

@@SwiftAssassin2dy wrong, from the dev team themselves, some general units are "special units" and can't be retrained, you can only do that with common units generals but they suck so just don't use them for most

[@SwiftAssassin2dy]

@@maximusd26 It didnt save my reply for some reason. Actually, no im not wrong and have done so myself many times, by the "devs" I presume you are basing this off the initial scroll. Unique generals, will not automatically retrain past 77 models, but they can be manually retrained to their full strength. Take gondor for example, if the marines general goes to 77, then you bring him back to Pelargir or Mina Tirith he can be retrained, but as I say I dont know the rules, you may need to have the barracks that trains marines to be able to do so.

[@maximusd26]

@@SwiftAssassin2dy yes, the pelargir marines which are a common unit, not the special general units like Saruman's bodyguard, which is the type we're talking about here

[@SwiftAssassin2dy]

@@maximusd26 unique generals - to me, any general that isnt the standard default bodyguard. But that would make the only non-retrainable generals with the elves only potentially Celeborns unit (cant remember what unit they are, and the unification generals, since all the other generals are by your definition common units. Even the unification ones are all "common units", just not ones that are trainable by your faction.

[@GStarMan8844]

Lets go! Keep it going, we got to finish!

[@chzz4770]

Can’t wait too see Legolas in action

[@alwinvandendriessche2212]

Hey apollo the bodygaurd unit do not replenish on there own the need retraining. Love you´r serie´s

[@krypt0n01Y]

Use those expensive armies to take cities fast. Dont disband them

[@kingarture1192]

Apollo u have to destroy the buildings that needed to repair

[@samiman5606]

No that's a big mistake only destroyed orcish settlements in elfs city's the building that needed repairs will bring him more economic benefits and revenues

[@kingarture1192]

@samiman5606 but one of orcs build have a blacksmith what can help the elves armor

[@JayLeww44]

Legolas has body piercing arrows!

[@joshuaquinn6908]

Loving the series

[@ArielRussak]

Hey apollo. Great episode man. 🔥

[@rasmus3437]

Apollo with another banger🔥

[@Yung_Corz]

Woodland Realm just joined me in my campaign too

[@bradenwilczynski5357]

thanks for the video apollo

[@portersmithson]

I think you should destroy some orc buildings to get some money and merge units to cut the cost of troop upkeep

[@imperator22]

Hours of my live spend well on playing watching this game! Thanks Apollo

[@thegoogoogaga]

im loving this!!

[@snaydervargas9629]

This is very interesting to me idk why

[@hammer1797]

Mr Apollo keep this series up I love this series I need to get a computer to play this game

[@hammer1797]

Also put up more watch towers

[@ryantrammell9488]

You’re a legend

[@collinott2026]

Port and ferry ships for faster reinforcement may help!

[@thecloakanddagger4135]

Great episode

[@OscarAristeguiAdolphi]

Hi Apollo love everything you do se forward to the next episode

[@kafaifong4427]

So, the campaign units and the multiplay units were looked differently

[@Godwinsit]

Hey brother keep the momentum going making smart moves ma man

[@IceFireGamingMinecraft]

Always love these

[@stephenmonks3707]

Pixelated Apollo🗣️🗣️

[@DocM49]

You could probably sell your map information for several thousand gold at this point

[@thespartanhero1927]

keep it up brother!

[@OrderoftheSilverCross-ir7ip]

Yay ep 15!

[@snowycaesar5451]

a lothlorien episode and a trump victory life can't be better

[@N0thing6969]

Please tell us what computer set up u have to run these old games so well please !!

[@kevinbasler103]

I love your content Apollo ❤

[@paulbowley2386]

I think if you destroy the enemy infrastructure you get gold.

[@ColonelATHEK]

keep em coming

[@liamb3364]

love it mate

[@geoffreyraymond8128]

I want to buy this game so bad. Now that the economy is getting better I might be able to 😂

[@asddsagogoolpower]

Yeah disbanding sounds shady. Can't you send them off to grab a settlement?

[@SethDavis-o6w]

Hey man love you great to watch this amazing playthrough your awesome

[@arseniosch6116]

Leaving a comment for support

[@hansfabri6906]

Thanks

[@Emperor_Diplex]

I hope you get 1,000,000 pixiee!!

[@banjoveal7359]

Love these

[@kebabeter-c5d]

Damn it´s a battle

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

Are we allowed to comment on the THING that happened last night?😁

[@PixelatedApollo1]

lol, go for it

[@geoffreyraymond8128]

Yeeeeee go T-Train

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

@@geoffreyraymond8128 Tear collection in all major cities😀

[@JayLeww44]

We are so back 😎

[@geoffreyraymond8128]

@@JayLeww44 yeaaahhhhhh buddy 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🥲

[@etofnbrother1965]

Bro I love this mf his vids are what keep me on this app cause all of KZbin is wack now expect this g

[@azadyilmaz7294]

Lets gooo new episode

[@valerivalentinov6830]

hey like the woodlen elves you cen keep them in the cities or villages to like have them

[@yami122]

Haven't seen the videos past this point but to give some advice based on where you're at Once you do have money to spend build stables and some military buildings elves take forever before you can build more of them Seeing Luca have all of your castles have the military buildings It doesn't do you any good to build a building to make buildings cheaper if you can't build that horse you need now And you need them now upgrade your roads and ports roads first then ports and markets A huge reason why you're struggling for money right now is because you refused to upgrade your roads and your ports the 2 single largest economic buildings in the game when people said to build some culture buildings and halts of the music you're kind of going overboard with it and you're ignoring everything else to build just those buildings this game is a game about balance and I've noticed you definitely have the major and critical flaw that you pick a type of building you're going to build and you build nothing but that for a while And you need to be balancing more build an economic building then build a military building If you find yourself constantly complaining that you need something for example throughout your videos your constant complaint that you need more cavalry do something about that build the cavalry buildings build the cavalry don't look at a castle that can build a stable while you've been complaining for three episode straight you need cavalry and then build anything but a stable you are facing a much larger empire So you need to go all in on your economy and military specifically your military your economy is to feed into your military and your military should be constantly on the attack because if you're playing defense you lose every time they are taking other civilizations cities they are growing well you're oftentimes just sitting there enduring attack after attack because you will not build more horses or just more troops because you see a fancy building that oftentimes gives very little in return and you don't build into your military there is no such thing as a non-economic building or a unit everything technically feeds into your economy your troops let you take cities which build your economy oftentimes more than any one building ever could you got more money from taking your enemy's capital than you did any other building you built and since you're so backed into a wall now Once you can build some military buildings build those so you can build more cavalry and more troops And then right now until you are stronger than your own enemy you need to have your military be almost your entire budget don't worry about building more economic building just build as many military units as you can and if you can't build anymore military units and have a little bit of money left off then build an economic building but until then you need your military a lot more than you need a bank the only exception to this are roads and your ports upgrade lows first and then nothing but military for a while until you've taken a solid third to a half of your enemy's territory Which has allowed them to attack so many of your cities at once take the cities that are in between your empire then take what's directly south of you then push east do not let your enemies keep sieging your cities for longer than the bare minimum you need them to you're not gaining a single thing by going your entire turn without kicking the enemies off your siege unless you're needing to send reinforcements Because you might not be aware of this but while they're sieging your cities you're losing a significant portion of the money for your city that's actually why you're in such a money debt you're losing about 2000 gold to turn from the enemy sieging your city

[@nicolaschartrain5360]

Hi Apollo Nice video

[@Spartacus_1453]

Don’t just disband your troops merge them first then disband them that way your forces should be better replenished even if they hold less units.

[@anarionelendili8961]

It doesn't matter, the upkeep is not per unit, but per men in that unit (times whatever number those men are worth). So for example, if you have two archer units of 50 men and they cost 100 gold each, merging them into an archer unit of 100 men will cost 200 gold in upkeep still. Given what a bottleneck the recruitment is for the elves, it is better to use those elves to fight and die killing Dol Guldur armies, rather than be simply thrown away by disbanding. Especially with an almost full stack of Dol Guldur coming along the Celduin river.

[@CelticWarband]

Dont disband! Ride the debt out for now. Be super aggressive with the woodland armies, taking cities. If you disband, you will fix your economy, but lose all the cities you gained in the unification, making the unification useless.

[@franciscoapolinar2316]

somewhat agree here hold with cheap units while you get elite troops to forts, thranduils bodyguard costs 1k per turn so get him into the fort east of thranduils halls ASAP. him along with an archer unit or 2 and one spearman can hold that for against most anything for no upkeep

[@victorcodjambassisgalvez7974]

Fire a couple of your diplomats. You have too many. That can save you a 1500 or so a turn.

[@Kermpit_the_dog]

HI MY NAME IS MRBEAST AND IN TODAYS VIDEO WE WILL BE BLINDING 1000 RANDOM CHILDREN

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

@@Kermpit_the_dog How can I donate towards this cause.

[@Kermpit_the_dog]

@@nikolamilinovic1230 DONT WORRY NO NEED THE TASK IS COMPLETE NEXT VIDEO WE WILL BE MAKING 1000 BLIND PEOPLE DEAF

[@nikolamilinovic1230]

@@Kermpit_the_dog Love it! You have my full moral support! You have returned my hope in humanity🙏

[@theonly1rem]

what’s up apollo

[@kingjoe1164]

Hi. Love the videos❤❤

[@jabbynouchet]

Love it

[@Godwinsit]

I don't think your generals retrain by themselves mate

[@maximedaniel1949]

Let’s go!!!!

[@sirdandre5837]

pincer them from north and south to connect the empire, afterwards delete or merge your units then, don't be afrid of little deta

[@thedoucherino]

how do you download this mod I've been looking for awhile and im a noob unfortunately haven't been able to find it

[@cringelevelunlocked7418]

For the algorithm

[@maximusd26]

brother why are you confused on why you're broke ? gotta use free upkeep and mind the armies on the field the elves are very expensive

[@banjoveal7359]

LESS GOOOO

[@Ruben-eo3xs]

general apollo

[@dabruni3770]

nice!