Massive Fire at Rivian Plant: 50+ Electric Vehicles Burn

[@yellowsnowman9157]

Things to love about EVs: 1. Child battery labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. Battery degredation 6. Poor resale value 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently But hey theres a tax credit!

[@camreed6832]

@@yellowsnowman9157 every single point you tried to make here is all BS and fictional. All lies told to you by the big oil companies. Child labor might be correct however, everything else you buy from overseas is made with child labor as well. I’m assuming you aren’t walking around naked are you? 85% of cotton is made in China and about 50% of that is made with slave and child labor. So I hope you never buy anything cotton. I’ve had a Tesla since 2013 and have never had “range anxiety” even though I drive over double the national average. Risk of garage fires is almost 100 times higher with gas vehicles, new teslas are no more then a comparable gas car and is even less with tax credits, battery degradation isn’t real either, my 2013 model S battery with 270k miles on it is still at 95% while the average gas car heads to the junk yard at 240k. Resale value is just as bad on new gas cars. Gas cars also perform worse in cold weather, I get about 25% less mileage in Wisconsin winter with my Tesla while my Acura MDX got about 23% less mileage. I can’t speak to repair cost as I have never needed a repair since 2013. My Acura needed a fairly minor repair that cost $6500 though. I’ve never had a bad charging experience in the 12 years I’ve been driving teslas in winter, summer or any other time. I’ve also never been to a charger without a bathroom within walking distance. My insurance on my model Y is $30/month more than my Acura insurance was… not a big increase considering I save $300 - $400 month in gas costs. In the 270k miles I’ve put on my model S, I’ve never had a set of tires that didn’t get the manufacturer’s estimated mileage. 50k tires get 50k miles. Same as every gas car I’ve driven. Maybe you should drive a Tesla (or at least talk to others who own them) and see what you are missing instead of helping the oil companies spread their lies.

[@tonysid3563]

Fire sale on Rivians starts Sunday. Up to 100% off on select vehicles. Hurry in! These deals are smoking hot! 😅

[@garrynuman5080]

😂🤣

[@Bert_Fromarketin]

😂😂😂😂

[@Veritas419]

The silence from the media was deafening

[@mrradman2986]

No mention of this major newsworthy event on the BBC.

[@nlf17]

True.

[@Aceman597]

Cause they control it. And its not for our interests.

[@BusterKitten]

wonder if Biden/Harris still wants the American car buyer switch to these EVs?

[@jimpritchard8354]

They are told not to say anything!!

[@mikehynek]

I am so happy with my 18 year old manual transmission Honda Element, with real time 4wd. Its all paid off. It doesn't track me. It uses normal wiring vs communication buss. It's simple. The a/c works great. The drivers door leaks in the car wash but I love it.

[@sandyrose2398]

I had my previous Honda Accord for 29 years - didn't have payments on it for 27 years. And nothing about it was Electric.

[@johnnemeth6913]

​@@sandyrose2398So you had to hand crank it to start it?

[@EthosAtheos]

@@johnnemeth6913 Nah, they roll it down hill or make the kids push start it like a civilized un-shaved ape. The headlights are gas lamps from the mining industry. The radio is AM so it doesn't work anyway no point in trying to figure out how to power it.

[@VintageLPs]

1997 Toyota RAV 4: have to unplug the battery when parked in the garage due to a parasitic draw that no one seems to be able to find. I also have AAA on speed dial. 🤣 1999 Chevrolet Malibu, 44,000 miles and it never ever gives me a problem. Both are considered “antiques” so I pay NOTHING to license…..no tax, no nothing. 😂 At least I know that my RAV battery will never start my garage on fire which is right below my bedroom.

[@mikee2923]

My 89 Firebird is non trackable OBD1. The only solid state circuits in my 75 Grand Prix is the ignition module and the aftermarket CD player in the dash. If I install a points type distributor in the 75 or put a spare ignition module in a faraday box, I’ll still have transportation after an EMP event.

[@MaverickAus]

Clean, Green energy at work

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

You have absolutely no idea how polluting is an ICE car. That is one reason why they will all be replaced by EV. In fact ICE cars are prohibited in two countries as of now. Eventualy more will follow. Eve are more safe for the passenger/driver, for the environment. They save time for their ownwers by neve going to a gas station, no visits to the stealers. There are now quite a bunch of ev from eight to 15 thousans lower price vs an ICE car, and it top of it there ais arounf $3,00o savings each year per owner.

[@buffsheeri]

Yeah dangerous as heck....😢

[@HAL9000-su1mz]

Dark smoke the proof!

[@kimnielsenthewordyvikingett159]

Aaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 😂😅🤣!!!!!!!

[@littleevil725]

What is going to happen when insurance companies decide that these planet saving technologies start fires in apartment buildings and dormitories. Temu is flooding the market with cheap electric scooters.

[@zitzong]

Amazon:- Sorry we could not deliver your package today as our battery powered van cremated your parcel. 📦 😱

[@irvinewayne4086]

It's appalling to see the cover-up of these incidents - an inconvenient truth

[@SirHackaL0t.]

How have they covered it up?

[@irvinewayne4086]

@@SirHackaL0t. Intentionally muted report on MSM on group EV fires

[@SirHackaL0t.]

@@irvinewayne4086 How many ICE car fires are reported each day? It’s rare to hear about a gas cars going up because it’s normal and everyday. Is that a cover up as well?

[@irvinewayne4086]

@@SirHackaL0t. ICE cars fires are mostly isolated or age/arson related. EV fires are now found to be very contagious, much more catastrophic. Large li-ion batteries are in essence thermobaric bombs. This has to be addressed.

[@jackanderson2773]

@@SirHackaL0t. OPEN YOUR EYES .

[@ChiRat22]

You’re the only one talking about this. No mainstream media coverage.

[@rcpmac]

I only heard about it via mainstream media

[@richardsmith579]

Phew! I initially believed it was the factory, now I know it’s just the batteries in the cars. That’s comforting.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

in what way? these were new vehicles stood still, and you think that's a good thing?

[@HAL9000-su1mz]

While you're driving your Rivian, the factory will not catch fire!

[@Schroefdoppie]

​@@CosmicSeeker69 sarcasm /sär′kăz″əm/ noun A cutting, often ironic remark intended to express contempt or ridicule. A form of wit characterized by the use of such remarks. "detected a hint of sarcasm in his voice." A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest.

[@HAL9000-su1mz]

@@Schroefdoppie Posssssssssibly....

[@catherinehall7217]

@@CosmicSeeker69he was joking

[@billsElitetrucking349]

We live just 8 miles from that fire . I thought that the whole Rivain plant was going to burn down

[@CherryFlambé]

Is your breathing okay? 😮

[@BUFFDgaming]

@@CherryFlambé are you breathing ok ... ?

[@brianklamer3328]

When those EV's burn it really is a nasty smoke. Great public relations for both Rivian and Amazon!

[@willierants5880]

Nasty meaning highly toxic.

[@grayrabbit2211]

@@tabbott429 ICE car fires can be handled by a single fire truck and some water and DON'T have toxic child-labor,strip-mined lithium batteries spewing toxic smoke everywhere.

[@jimtekkit]

@@tabbott429 Strawman argument, ignoring the fact that EV batteries burn with highly toxic heavy metals.

[@sd906238]

Imagine it that EV was in your garage.

[@brianklamer3328]

@@sd906238 I have a neighbor that probably wishes it was in their detached garage!

[@JohnShinn6078]

Ya know the world's goin to hell in a handbasket when a town named Normal isn't.

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

Bars sheeesh 😂

[@user-tg6el6zc4t]

It was founded in 1860, so it's been around a long, long time.

[@irvinewayne4086]

Google A Brief Look Back at Recent Car Carrier Fires its by Mike Schuler on gcaptain, a fairly legit site. in the Felicity Ace fire of 2022, it was due to a porsche ev, And the shipper is now suing VW for the fire. The lawsuits are reported to involve Mitsui O.S.K. Lines which operated the Felicity Ace. Insurer Allianz, which has been outspoken on the dangers of EV fires, is also reported to be a plaintiff in the suits. “The plaintiffs claim that the fire originated from the lithium-ion battery of a Porsche model and allege VW failed to inform them of the danger and necessary precautions needed to transport such vehicles,” according to Bloomberg. They report that both cases have not progressed in the courts while there have been settlement talks. It is normal to have CCTV photo video evidence

[@infinidominion]

How many guys have biblical names but are fucking menaces?

[@DCGreenZone]

So, parking 50 feet apart will become normalized. Parking in a basement parking garage will be illegal. Getting a scratch on your battery box will total your vehicle. This is a shade of green I never imagined.

[@1flash3571]

It is a faulty engineering. Shit happens. EV vehicles STILL are less prone to catch fires than ICE Vehicles. Do you even realize that how many fires from ICE vehicles happen each year? It isn't even close. YES, fire intensity is much greater from an EV than in ICE vehicle, but overall, they are lot safer than an ICE vehicles.

[@SalemikTUBE]

No they will be banned as soon as the ICE vehicles are gone.

[@howlinwulf]

​@@SalemikTUBEsuits me,as long as airplanes trains and everything else is banned. Make horses great again

[@DCGreenZone]

@@SalemikTUBE OK, 100 ft. Apart.

[@Dr.Jellyfingers]

​@@SalemikTUBEgood to see someone awake to the agenda, pity more don't see what's going on.

[@tuan056585]

We bought 2 Subaru this year, 2020 Forester and 2024 Outback, about 30MPG on average. It's safe, it's reliable, it fit our budget and it's 100% gasoline engine.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

But gasoline cars KILL 7 million people each year due totheir exhaust gases. Google it.

[@youtubetim3577]

Subaru ain't reliable dude lol, better then ev but still.

[@softwarephil1709]

I love my 2018 Subaru Forester XT. Peppy, nimble, zero problems - Not one.

[@lancetruong4957]

@@softwarephil1709 Go lucky.

[@andrej2321]

@@youtubetim3577LOL you prob only owned WRX. Subarus are some of the most reliable vehicles out there and more so with some proper maintenance and fixes.

[@raycollington4310]

This is public interest reporting. Thank you for reminding us just how dangerous these EV vehicles and batteries are.

[@irvinewayne4086]

Search Li-ion storage battery fire. Popping up like crazy in California, Aussie, Germany... Fire at Lithium Battery Plant in South Korea Kills at Least 22 earlier this year.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

ever read a plane crash report?

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Electric motors are not dangerous. It's just the batteries

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

No they are not dangerous You have tio know there are close to 17M ev running daily around the world. In contrast there are billions of ICE cars and in the US there is a car fire every 5 minutes. It is so conmon it is never news.. The reasons for this are gasoline leaks (tank, and fuel injectors), oil leaks from the engine or oil cooling radiators, and brake fluid leaks. Of course all severe crashes

[@autobug2]

@@Boomtendo4tw Well, look at the carnage 'just the batteries' caused at the assembly plant.

[@sd906238]

We need an EV only parking area in parking garages like on the roof. This way us regular people won't have to worry about 1 EV taking out 50 regular cars.

[@peterk2455]

I know several building owners that have banned EV's from entering their premises. The signage doesn't stop private ev owners from entering the carparks. It's just to keep the lawyers happy.

[@gomahklawm4446]

My building already removed the charges and banned them for insurance reasons. People who had them were let off their leases. Evs are trash....

[@stephenshelton4267]

@vex8ion196 In Florida I fully expect insurance companies to ask questions like "Have you ever seen an EV vehicle?" and if you say yes they'll jack your premium up another 60%.

[@pmp2559]

EVs will be to heavy I won’t park if all that weight is up there

[@dannysdailys]

They already lost 200 on a roof in Lisbon.

[@r.dvanderveen9150]

EV's= Explosive vehicle Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

You are not from the Neaterlands, and are telling lies.. In the Neatherlans the ev rule the market. Bad choice of region for you. In the US they arte lagging , and are loosing a technology war. China will decimate the US auto industry. There will be no survivors except Tesla, that also is the #1 ev seller, in numbers and in profit. This will happen so fast, the US automakers never has a chance.

[@leopardwoman38]

👍👍👍👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@leemelone6482]

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[@nonconformist9991]

Insurance fires are going to be a big problem as the EV market continues to decline.

[@MacGyver2154]

Good insight. When people can't afford the payment.....

[@adamheskett6245]

Ev is garbage

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

"Continues to decline" ?? Please link sales figures that are not made up by FOX. While the World car market of All types has shrunk, the EV market is the only area of growth within that overall market.

[@nonconformist9991]

@@PiDsPagePrototypes Statistics can be manipulated to foment support for whatever the current thing is and the politically indoctrinated will remain delusional in whatever bubble they have chosen.

[@mickeybrown9052]

Dealer had some bad EV's. Didn't know what else to do with them...maybe?

[@gregeconomeier1476]

Well...that's one way to get rid of excess inventory and fix a little cash flow issue.

[@SuperDrumwolf]

@@ComputerKevAZ they own you're ass little Kevin.

[@drewdevon2009]

how does your inventory burning up that you spent a lot of money producing fix cash flow

[@BeagleBob-zw7wg]

@@drewdevon2009insurance fraud

[@drewdevon2009]

@@BeagleBob-zw7wg oh wow i didnt think of that lol

[@瞎聊]

dumping the milk into river thing. my first thought too.

[@jefftaylor844]

Just wait when insurance companies charge double and triple to insure EV's !

[@philliphall5198]

I’m thinking they will not insure it period 😢

[@TheLegitAlpha]

@@philliphall5198They won’t insure Florida, Texas, or California anymore…

[@Nellie-H]

I believe our all insurance will keep going up in price and we all will pay for this! Florida has now the most expensive premiums for car insurance in all of the US!

[@bentullett6068]

Already having a effect in the UK. My car insurance has doubled due to new cars being too expensive to repair after an accident and due to some of the hidden from the public EV/hybrid car fires.

[@DarkLink1996]

​@@bentullett6068No one is hiding these

[@fredflintstone5356]

Soon they will be telling us we have to social distance vehicles in parking lots when it comes to EV’s…

[@r.dvanderveen9150]

EV's is a big scam Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@angleseyandy9110]

Mandatory masking as well 😂 Though it won't be fp3, it'll be hazmat!

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

NO.

[@greglane3978]

And provide mask so you can protect yourself from the smoke.

[@zkjohn4470]

6ft is minimum

[@KD-cg9iq]

I wouldn't want an EV even if it was given to me for free.

[@Slayer-33]

Good lord, some of you people blow things out of proportion. EV fires AREN'T prevalent. They just aren't, the sky isn't falling. Stop exaggerating.

[@yoHOBODAN]

I couldn't afford the insurance and electrician to rebuild my power problem.

[@itsprivate4360]

So… you won’t be complaining when a gallon of gasoline costs $25 or more huh, ok.

[@yoHOBODAN]

@@itsprivate4360 Electricity is not getting any cheaper... And the road tax, .$30/mile in CaliCo is ridiculous.

[@erickanter]

@@itsprivate4360 Your comment is ridiculous.

[@GustavoEBarriga]

Ooops, seems like things are heating up with the EV's.

[@aaaaaaab11]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DarkLink1996]

Meanwhile the gas cars are producing more toxic smoke

[@johnwarner4809]

They'll say "well ... gas cars burn too", but I've never seen one spontaneously combust.

[@craigoOZ]

And you can suppress an ICE fire unlike lithium….

[@phalanx3803]

a good chunk of ICE fires are from the 12V system and last i checked EVs also have a 12V system just like ICE cars.

[@jamesphillips2285]

My 2012 Hyundia Elentra was recalled because some of them caught fire, even while parked. The issues was that brake fluid could leak onto the ABS circuit board. The eventual fix was installing a fuse to prevent a fire.

[@who6339]

And when you think, they are suppressed think again. EVs can catch on fire AGAIN weeks or months after being put out. @@craigoOZ

[@mikesawyer1336]

Well actually I have... But when it does, it's not a sensational event that gets spread across the entire country... Part of the EV disinformation is people going crazy when one catches on fire the actual statistics are quite low but yet they are sensational and the danger to everything around is much higher. I would never park one in my garage.

[@Ifitwerks]

With small RC lithium battery's the pouch swells and bursts exhausting clouds of very toxic choking white/grey smoke rapidly followed by a flame jet which then continues as the remaining cells also ignite until the reactions are depleted. Have seen numerous now and all had the same characteristics. The dangers have been known in the RC world for many years now. Seems like the EV industry is on a similar learning curve but considerably scaled up.

[@JustPlaneNutzRC]

💯 We have known about, and experienced these issues for years. To say I'm hypervigilant when it comes to lipo safety would be an understatement.

[@silo_fx3182]

You won't get the EV evangelists in this comment section agreeing with you. They are well and truly stuck in sunk cost fallacy where they have been sold a lie, put their money up and now the truth is somewhat 'uncomfortable'. I actually feel for EV buyers that have been lied to. They need to get through this next phase of realisation and move on. Government's must be held accountable for their failed ideology that has cost citizens millions.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

@@silo_fx3182 Wel I am an ev owner for the last 18 months. My only expense is replenishing wipers fluid. I got it for only 26K. It beats all small cars, and midium size too.. Never charged ouitside home at only $0.12/kwh, and save around $2,500 each year since I do not travel much. Do I wory about a battery fire? NO. CHECJ this : "From 2012 - 2020, there has been approximately one Tesla vehicle fire for every 205 million miles traveled. By comparison, data from the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) and U.S. Department of Transportation shows that in the United States there is a vehicle fire for every 19 million miles traveled. a factor of 10X

[@finaloption...]

THINK OF THE CHILDREN !!! 😂😅😂😅😂

[@joeyjamison5772]

Several years ago when a local hobby shop began selling LIPO batteries for R/C planes, they also got their hands on a bunch of surplus ammo boxes and highly recommended keeping the batteries inside the ammo boxes while you charged them. The boxes were made of steel and could contain a fire.

[@JJFX-]

Just want to say all the detail and your straight to the point, 'no nonsense' approach to the content is very refreshing to see. Very well done, keep it up.

[@randykitchleburger2780]

"I told you that you have to use heatshrink before you stuff the wires inside John. I told you. I TOLD YOU"

[@celeron55]

Joke's on you: heatshrink tubing catches fire like no other. It's like candle wax. At the instant some hot gases go by, you have a flame. PVC insulation is the only thing you can use inside a battery if you want to avoid flames.

[@randykitchleburger2780]

@@celeron55 The point of the heat shrink is to avoid short circuits that will cause a fire in the first place John

[@Schroefdoppie]

​@celeron55 ..you must be fun at parties.

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

It's a short in one of the cells then a chain reaction

[@327JohnnySS]

​@@KingfishStevens-di9ji, I will take " Yep, Domino effect for a thousand Alex". . . . Ding Daily Double

[@ANotSoHotRodGarage]

I while back the CEO of rivian called people who won't buy an EV idiots.

[@rcpmac]

Ans your point is?

[@missgibsen6767]

I'm 32 year old and even I know these Electric Car are Dangerous. My family will Never be allowed to get in one of these Cars know matter what the Dealers or Manufacturers say about their Safety. Never !!

[@allangibson8494]

EV’s catch fire 1/30th as often as ICEV’s. Been confirmed by data from multiple countries. EV fires are news because they are RARE. ICEV fires occur hourly in the U.S. Fire inspectors see EXACTLY the same severity in ICEV fires (particularly with a full fuel tank and even more spectacular with LPG and LNG).

[@redwolfexr]

Did You Know Many City Buses are also Electric? Houses burn down every day, are you gonna live in a tent? Oh wait... those burn down too...

[@whatsomeonesaidwastaken9216]

@@redwolfexrhouses are not made out of lithium ion which is almost impossible to put out

[@whatsomeonesaidwastaken9216]

And I live outside Chicago and never seen electric bus

[@allangibson8494]

@@whatsomeonesaidwastaken9216 Chicago has 25 in service (according to the CTA web site) but only 3 of 7 bus garages are equipped to charge them. On the other hand they look exactly like diesel buses but without the exhaust.

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

This was my hometown - the factory is where Mitsubishi used to make the Eclipse. Rivian has never made a profit, the government is keeping them active.

[@MrMajikman1]

You misspelled taxpayer!

[@whjerts]

Isn’t it the old Saturn plant?

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

@@whjerts no it was built for Mitsubishi

[@whjerts]

@@Alexander-fr1kk 👍

[@randallkohn6089]

Without subsidies (our taxes and future debt payments plus interest) none of these turds 💩 would exist. They ruin the ice market too because they think corn gas is a good idea, but it only drives of the price of land and food. New lows in dum.

[@tonepilot]

Good, common sense factual reporting. Thanks

[@DustyCracker1]

This is the scene that you'll see for years to come

[@DarkLink1996]

We've already seen this with gas cars

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

We will see it,, but the news but the news won't be showing us.

[@Diamonddavej]

Workers from the Rivian factory claim they were defective vehicles. They claim a problem detected on an assembly line and affected cars, 50 R1S and R1T models, were parked in a defect area.

[@lost4468yt]

So it's not even a problem with the EVs. It's just whatever they messed up during production - oh and of course the idiot who decided to park that many faulty vehicles right next to each other...

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

@@lost4468yt Yes that was not a good idea. Same for the guy who leaved a defective battery charged for weeks ultil it caught fire in the yard a few months ago.

[@KingfishStevens-di9ji]

Every EV is defective

[@drewdevon2009]

thats false

[@drewdevon2009]

​@@KingfishStevens-di9jiyeah i agree. how do you build 50 defective vehicles and just leave them there? definitely a lie/cover up and the sheep believe it

[@joeyjamison5772]

I don't know about you, but I just don't trust electric cars. I have a 2010 Honda Civic, but it still runs great and I do trust it and will be keeping it around for some time to come.

[@Gspizzy]

They say go electric they say. I will stick with my 2012 Honda Civic 1.8, naturally aspirated, 4D sedan. Over 30 mpg.

[@iworkout6912]

By the 2030's you will have no choice as you will have to buy an EV and have Joy as Kamala says.

[@GF-mf7ml]

That 1.8/2.0 with 5 speed automatic can run forever

[@sandyrose2398]

@@iworkout6912 Kamala will be driving Bidee's Chevy Gas-Powered Car.

[@mrlfordf150]

Nice flex bra

[@jayh1734]

My 08 mustang gt got 31. My 79 camaro got 25. My 50 chevy truck got only 22 but had a brass tag that said warning. If you exceed 3600 lbs net load,warranty will be void. And it hauled that and more. All passed emissions. It shows what all this talk about green earth is really about

[@vincecarlo]

The 🔥🔥 TOXIC Fumes SURE looks GOOD for the Climate

[@jamesphillips2285]

As he said: there is a difference between frequency and severity. Your ICE vehicle catches fire every time you drive it! That does more harm to the environment overall due to sheer numbers.

[@vincecarlo]

There is 3 Billion ICE on Earth n Only 14 Million EV Do the Maths

[@jimmyk6336]

The toxic fumes put the fire- fighters more at risk and the long term effects aren't even know yet...

[@Raven74947]

Scary how well those things burn... The crazy thing to me is people drive their kids around in something that could explode into a raging fireball the instant something punctures the battery box. I've had road debris puncture a gas tank, twice. Nothing bad happened.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Battery packs do not explde. They get extremely hot, and all material close to them catches fire. You were very lucky with the way the gas tank was ruptured. If gasoline reaches the rear brake there will be a fire, Gas tanks are a lot safer than in the past. Only the gasoline that gets out of the tank is capable of ignition. The safety vents have flame arrestors, so if the tank is heated by a fire , it will not explode but the saftey vent will look like a flamethrower.

[@Nope-s9y]

What about the phone that is inside your pockets? They say that for every 100,000 ice vehicles, about 2k-3k catch on fire .. Compare to ev , for every 100,000 only 25 catch fire .

[@HieronymusChockvivantvanit]

@@Nope-s9yI was in an ICE vehicle fire. No big deal. It just burned up all the wiring under the hood. Nothing else. It just burned itself out.

[@seenuhello1]

But do new ICE cars in the factory, in the transportation ships, and at dealerships, catch on fire?

[@Raven74947]

@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan and the chances of rear brakes igniting gasoline is too small to mention. I've spilled gas on a 500 degree exhaust manifold, it just boils off. You need a spark.

[@moong6277]

I don’t want to drive a car with risks. When my son bought an EV I told him watch your garage 🔥

[@Kingofthehill84]

EVs has the ability to burning down the whole country literally once we have 200,000M on the roads in the next 25 to 50 years from now 😂😅

[@DarkLink1996]

​@@Kingofthehill84 Have you not seen what oil has done

[@Kingofthehill84]

@@DarkLink1996 If you're talking about Oil spill then yes.

[@DarkLink1996]

@@Kingofthehill84 Oil spills, fracking, derailments.

[@Kingofthehill84]

@@DarkLink1996 Yes, all those things are terrible for the environment especially fracking and oils spilled. All the construction sites are power by petroleum-based without its there wouldn't be EVs on the roads. One battery pack requires millions of pounds of dirty to be digging out from the ground just imagine how much dirt needed to be digging out from the ground for 200,000,000 EVs on the roads. When accounting for all the earth moved (i.e. the materials first dug up to get to the ore), one battery requires digging and moving between 200,000 and 1,500,000 pounds (or between 90 and 680 tonnes) of earth per battery.

[@paparalph4]

Until EV manufactures can eliminate the fire / ecological hazards with lithium batteries, they should not be able to produce them. Proof too many times of being dangerous to owners, structures, emergency personal, and the environment from their raw material mining to make to ownership.

[@1flash3571]

What a dumbest comment....Wow...How about try to breath in that fumes from the Exhaust????? Go on....I guarantee that it won't end well for you. How about ALL that Fires from an ICE vehicles??? Why don't you Google it??????? Vs How many fires from an EV???? IT isn't even CLOSE. Go back to your basement and rethink your miserable life....

[@howlinwulf]

It can't be done.

[@lost4468yt]

Are you not aware how often this happens with petrol vehicles as well? It's just what happens when you want to try manipulating huge amounts of energy, be it petrol or batteries. Not to mention these vehicles were literally not manufactured properly. They actually knew it was going to be a problem. That's why they were all lined up like that. Some idiot decided to park all of them together despite knowing that they weren't built properly.

[@edc1569]

I love the idea that combustion engines don’t produce soot and all sorts of crap as part of normal operation, there’s billions of them. I’m old enough to remember when every diesel was sooty as hell and petrol cars were spewing lead fumes.

[@edc1569]

Presumably we have to also ban all combustion cars today also, as they produce harmful toxins as part of their normal operation.

[@williambaker1136]

Thermal runaway, something the EV sellers don't won't the public to understand.

[@DarkLink1996]

Double Negative

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

Of course not they act like these things don't even have maintenance needs. They certainly won't be wanting people to understand something like that.

[@MichaelDebalski-mk6bt]

This green initiative is so good for the environment !

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes it is. Some ignorant people has done no research at all and plublish only B S. on all media. They are only afraid of change.

[@TheBuckeyeJeff]

I worked at the Gigafactory in Nevada for a few years. This approach to putting out that fire will keep it contained but won't put out the fire. The thermal runaway has to run its' course. There are fire departments in Europe who are equipped with giant deployable baths of water they can dunk the entire car into with heavy lift equipment. That is the best approach I've seen, and also, is exactly how we dealt with battery pack fires at GF1. We had large baths of water deployed at the ready in numerous locations and we'd change those out every night or so as needed.

[@guns-gas-diesel]

What is done with that highly toxic water when things are all cooled down?

[@kradius2169]

Being reported the Harlingen Cybertruck started on fire after hitting a fire hydrant.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes a lot of water shortcircuit the battery pack, ironic.

[@FLYBOY-eh5th]

I saw a Cybertruck for the first time today. It looked like something out of Mad Max.

[@kradius2169]

Exceptionally informative & honest report just published by channel "Clean Tech" (no affiliation). U2oob: EV's Are Exploding in Huge Numbers!

[@WhiteWolfos]

​@@kradius2169 yeah. EV fires are rarer by far than ICE. Soon they'll be using different materials for batteries too with other countries behind

[@daewooparts]

The fire hydrant is on fire 🔥

[@dektold76]

So…how’s that EV working out!

[@chrisose]

Anytime you start charging at high voltage and current rates you are asking for trouble. Even the slightest imperfection in a component can cause catastrophic issues.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

%True , most ev fires are charging at a rapid charging station.

[@NortyNige]

Great to know you are keeping your big boy pants on, a level head with a great flow of useful information which helps keep a lot of people safe in their working environment.

[@ContraVsGigi]

These videos make me feel a bit unsecure about any battery device like my electric bike. I don't want to return home and find the house on fire or gone because of the battery.

[@77gravity]

Yep. Don't charge or store your battery in the house.

[@Mikey196601]

I was furniture shopping during a holiday weekend and the sales lady was telling me her and her husband were going on bike ride on their electric bike , I asked her where does she charge them when they ride locally, she said her husband charges them in their attached garage and then I gave her a speech on how fast a battery fire can get out of control, especially if they were unattended which they were, I said they were lucky and could have lost their house , she googled the subject while I was with the finance department and she later thanked me for the information, she or her husband had no idea

[@CosmicSeeker69]

in the You Kay - some landlords have totally banned E-bikes after the end of a block of flats was blown off thru a charging incident

[@Mikey196601]

@@CosmicSeeker69 , I’m from Michigan, there’s a historic island in northern Michigan, Mackinaw island, they have buildings there from when the French owned it , some buildings are 200 years old , they had a electric bike catch fire when charging at the front of a historic building, they banned them from the island for everyone but handicapped people

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

There was a time at China when the electric bycicles, and other small devices were not regulated. That caused a lot of fires all over China (they sold millions ofpersonal moving devices), and the government was forced to regulate them. China makes 80% of all small battery devices.80% also of all the batteries in the world. Same for ev.

[@ATSFSuperChief]

My fire department had the "Rule of Thumb" for any EV fire: after people and pets are out of the EV back off until the suspect EV can be totally covered by your outstretched thumb and spray water around the EV, but NOT on it, to prevent any fore from spreading.

[@Lacey_Face]

That big of a fire can jump rivers & streams, roads, etc. Not to mention all the toxins they put in the air from the chemicals burning. You are supposed to even burn pressure treated wood because of the toxic chemicals. They really are trying to kill is all while they get richer. Sickening.

[@xyyyyx3247]

And there is so much negative remarks in western main stream media about Chinese built electric vehicles. Good that this highlights western built EV can also be prone to fire too.

[@Mikey196601]

They’re all dangerous, They all use the same type of batteries

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

There’s questions I have about the battery used. But if it’s lithium ion, that would explain a lot.

[@anomamos9095]

@@xyyyyx3247 . Have you checked if they aren’t just assembled from Chinese parts?

[@anomamos9095]

@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes all batteries can have a really bad hair day especially when the equivalent of thermite is tossed at them. There are even stories of kids being injured by the little C and D cells used in toys exploding. But anything with a volatile metal as part of the mix is especially dangerous.

[@flyingsword135]

All EVs are sh*t

[@reverseuniverse2559]

Thanks for the fine and detailed coverage 👍

[@Handsomegenious]

Unpridictable, unsafe, unreliable, and unforgiveable the dangers posed. Yet people fall for this dangerous scam daily.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Fales in at least two of them. EV are more reliable than any ICE car simply because there are fewer parts. Only the wheels and the electric motor rotate. In an ICE car there are hundred os rotating parts, (water pump, alternator crankshaft, transmission gears (now they have 10gears), and another bunch of reciprocating parts. ALL ev are safer than an ICE car. In an ICE car (most of them) the ICE, and the transmission are at the front.. Those two try to get inside the passenger compartment during a frontal crash. The ev has no such components at the front most have the air conditioning system. When was the last time you saw an ev on the side of the road waiting for towing? ICE cars break very often, they are not reliable transportastion. Even the ev tires are more robust. EV vehicles are not a scam. Scam is what the oil companies make you to believe. ICE car kill people by exposure to its fumes ( a lot worse in the past when lead was used), kill people in accidents (human drivers are terrible drivers). Making gasoline from dwell to finished gasoline is a high pollutant process, and very energy consumption. The real oprice of gasoline in the US is close to $12/gallon, but the trillion dollars the US fed government gives the oil industry makes the gasoline to look cheaper to customers (only billions are used in ev aids, a factor of 1,000 to one.

[@ragtowne]

@@EnriqueAThieleSolivan my dentist has a two year-old Tesla model S - we live in Northwestern Montana, twice the car had problems and could not be driven and tesla brought out a loaner vehicle and flatbed towed hers 250 miles to the nearest service center in Washington state - after being fixed she had to drive 500 miles round-trip to return the loaner and pick up her car - one problem related to a tire and rim being damaged and there’s no spare in the car, the other was some kind of electrical problem - and let’s not talk about the “range anxiety“ she had when it was -46°F last February - hardly “trouble free“

[@waterheaterservices]

@@ragtowneMy 66 Cadillac will still be running and destroying the planet and universe and stuff when these electrified piles of plastic, and me, are gone.

[@ragtowne]

@@waterheaterservices so will my 1969 Ford Mustang which I’ve owned since 1975

[@theo21021]

​@EnriqueAThieleSolivan The majority of the air pollution from an ICE vehicle isn't the tail pipe, but rather the tires wearing out. Since EVs are on average 20% heavier, the tires wear out considerably faster causing more air born pollution.

[@JensSchraeder]

When are they finally going to ban these death traps?!?!

[@rhipotter6191]

A semi out here in Cali ran off into the forest last week or so they shut the WHOLE freeway down all day while the fire department waited for a tesla engineer to come ... Barely talked about was really bad !

[@josephvellan6094]

Their not as long as stupid people keep buying them

[@richarda996]

While I don’t agree with the way the government mandates vehicle safety, no one was injured. This is a sad state of affairs for anyone. Drive what you want safely.

[@stephenfazekas5054]

Government mandates are why cars are safe today

[@who6339]

Evolution is why cars are safer today. Government tends to destroy. @@stephenfazekas5054

[@ibdam1]

Thank you for this video and thank you for the classes you teach. I learned a lot in your class.

[@johnpalmieri]

Kinda suspect timing that Rivians about to file bankruptcy. “In its Q2 2023 letter to shareholders, Rivian revealed that it has lost $32,595 for every vehicle it sold that quarter.” Motortrend.

[@SynchroScore]

You do realize that was over a year ago, yes?

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes they are bleeding money. A lot more than Tesla did in then years, but at that time Tesla had no competition, wile Rivian had to compete with Tesla , and that makes all ther difference for Rivian. They have excelent products, but their manufacturing numbers are too low to achieve profitability. A Rivian factiry in Mexico would have helped a lot, but they decided to make it in the US.

[@mmadchef808]

And VW just bought them. Think they will be ok.

[@BrianOlmsted]

VW didn’t buy them but provided investment for shared software development

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

@@SynchroScore Hmm since they wrote Q2 2023 and it's August 2024, yes it is reasonable they are aware how the calendar works. Nice job white knighting for them tho.

[@littlewingpsc27]

The barriers might not be to hide the vehicles from view but to protect folks. EV battery fires have a tendency to spontaneously restart on fire for up to 20 days after being initially extinguished. We had a E-Bike catch fire at work, while charging, and the fire department made us put it in an outside areas with a caution fence around it for 20 days before declaring the safety hazard gone, and then it could be disposed of.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes, as long as there is energy on a damaged battery pack it can catch fire again.

[@Ja50nkAt]

Once the lithium batteries catch fire it's almost impossible to put out.

[@Urbicide]

There is a security video from China. It shows a man carrying an E-bike or scooter battery, getting in an elevator in his apartment building on his floor. A second after the elevator door closes, the battery literally explodes in a huge fireball. It is a small elevator, so there is no where for the man to try to get away. He was the only occupant. The next part shows the lobby, & then the elevator door opens. Authorities were summoned, & 2 men drag the guy out. He looks like a burnt marshmallow. I thought that he had to be deceased, but then there was a small bit of movement. I don't know if he lived or not, but it looked like a scene out of a horror movie. That battery looked like something an army would use to destroy a target.

[@allisonangier1631]

I’ve seen that video. He was practically skeletonized. He didn’t make it.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

True , those type of vehicles were not regulated by the China government. A lot of crap (millions, hundreds of millions) was sold. When fires became a problem the governmenmt acted. The government like in all places put a remedy after the fact.

[@richardstaudinger2851]

He apparently lived for 28 days in a burn unit until before succumbing to his injuries.

[@JaskanFactor]

Rivian has developed over 15000 moving explosives for amazon, and they have deployed these all over the nation.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

so have the Chynese.. I think it was NBTV channel who said it was actually possible for the Chynese G'ment to overload ALL their cars and detonate then simultaneously - how's that for a political weapon?

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

ICE cars are the real danger. REAL FACT; "From 2012 - 2020, there has been approximately one Tesla vehicle fire for every 205 million miles traveled. By comparison, data from the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) and U.S. Department of Transportation shows that in the United States there is a vehicle fire for every 19 million miles traveled. a factor of 10X. Most ev manufacturers have very close statistics as well.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

6:06 The most recent study .... Even though EV's make up less than 5% vehicles worldwide, they account for 51% of the vehicles destroyed by fires.

[@kimmyk1]

Boy that lithium smoke deadly

[@sallytidwell7804]

Thank you for sharing and the warning ⚠️

[@EmilioBaldi]

At least the match did not catch fire in transit: in a tunnel or in the middle of the sea.

[@rumba215]

I can’t believe it’s possible to get insurance for these

[@wayne975]

I have experienced a single 18650 cell that over charged. It squealed and burst into a movieish colour roman candle fire cracker. Quenched in water within 30 seconds but vapour still triggered smoke alarm.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes " an overcharged battery". EV Battery pack have a charge controller that makes overcharging imposible. That is why it tooks an eternity to charge from 90% to 100%.

[@nicholastimpko3346]

Thank you for such a Fantastic educational presentaion. I think that everyone should know the truth about this subject matter. Keep up the good work and remain safe.

[@cccmmm1234]

The mere fact the quarantine area has a thick concrete wall around it is disturbing.

[@joek511]

It's not might vent toxic fumes, it's do, 100%. Deadly fumes

[@hawkuser604]

This reminds me of my Army times. We had a lot of NiCad batteries in aircraft and other equipment and they would have what we called thermal runaway. Radios, night vision and all kinds of things used them. We ended up converting everything back to sealed lead acid batteries or standard AA batteries for Night vision and such. I have seen lithium batteries for our radios just explode sitting on the shelf. Lithium and NiCad batteries are a huge hazard. I the Army was smart enough to ban them from use you know they are bad.

[@carolmartin7042]

Thank you. Being informed is critical to the survival of our democracy and our country.

[@mrjim1973]

Many in the auto industry are working hard to oppress the truth about EVs!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

Many in the MEDIA industry are working hard to oppress the truth about EVs!

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes. Thay have not learned how to make a profit selling them, so they use propaganda like There is no demand, Hybrids are better (they are not), etc. There isa also the oil industry claiming they are "clean or green" witch it is pure B S.

[@daveshupak9840]

A nightmare scenario for an all-electric traffic jam with an accident sparking an inferno!

[@HobRob148]

That toxic smoke from the fires is saving the climate. How dare you Greta.

[@gsfdriller]

EVs don't need to be on charge to burst into flames. Do not charge these vehicles in your integral house garage. Insurance companies are checking homes with EVs. Pulling insurance. Rejecting claims too I hear. They have the databases already of course.

[@Kidd-nq4fg]

Nope that jet flame was from the battery. There is not enough refrigerant in the air conditioner to do that.

[@danielflinn3571]

Thanks from Australia

[@evmotorsports]

You should look up refinery fires , especially the one by Henderson,nv. That one I was close by for an off road race . I think that explosion and fires lasted a week! Happens couple times a year at refineries and dozens if not hundreds of times a year at actual oil wells!

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

True I worked 10 years at a petrochemical plant. Fires were almost every week. operators catch them on time. The plant had two mayor fires after explosions. One person died. Worked another ten yars at a petroleum refinery. My first day there there was a huge fire and a person died . If I havent seen the previous two I would have quit before the first day was over. My last ten years were at a pharmaceutical facility.

[@stoff6969]

Luckily batteries come from magic and foreign lands

[@evmotorsports]

@@stoff6969 like Nevada

[@teddyghioto]

Why in the world would you fence it off if you wernt trying to hide it....Wake up people....

[@coryk6408]

When charging RC car batteries, the number one rule is you never leave them unattended just in case they catch fire. I think they should implement that rule on charging electric vehicles and make it a law!

[@Salmon_Rush_Die]

The EV question is answering itself.

[@kurtism9040]

Thank you for the information.

[@juliogonzo2718]

There's a youtuber, Chris Sing, who is a delivery driver for amazon. I just watched his video on his one year review of these vans. He quite liked it. I was shocked to see them being charged indoors in the video though.

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Indoors is much safe than any supercharges due to the amout of energy passed thru the cables.

[@WiseGuy02]

What else is he going to say other than he likes it? He wants to keep his job.

[@helenmachelen4200]

Collecting insurance for unsellable vehicles

[@jimschuman9926]

But,but, but, ev’s are so green and environmentally friendly, along with solar panels and wind turbines! 🙄😂😭

[@EnriqueAThieleSolivan]

Yes they are. You have no idea how damaging to the enviroment is driiling petroleum, tranport it, separate it in an oil refinery, the use one cut to send it to a petrochemicasl complex, to feed a gasolines reformer, to blend it, to transport it to the gas station. A lot of things can happen in that chain of events, Only the exhaust gases of the gasolin/diesel cars kill 7 million people each year. The ICE car contrary to what oil companies make you to believe is very damaging to the environment and one of the greates missuses of a limited resource, that can be used for a lot of things instead of burning it a t a 33 % efficiency. (from drill to combustion in the engine is only 20% efficient.) An ev with all loses is only 78% efficient(almostyt 4X that of a gas car), a lot more if the house has solar power.

[@Veritas-invenitur]

Lithium battery technology is no joke. It must be respected for the “potential explosive” it is. You cannot cut corners and you cannot cheap out. The engineers must have the final say and the engineers cannot be forced to “fall in line” with management. Huge money is for the taking here, but management must learn to respect the experts.

[@encinobalboa]

I would not park one of those things in my garage.

[@Lou-l5f]

There's more pollution in electric cars than is an in Gasoline car

[@flytwin1772]

You can´t get the fire out at an electric vehicle with using extinguishing water! These batteries a real problem if they start to burn, the fire is very high temperature and it creates it´s on gas to stay burning.

[@barrymacokiner9423]

Imagine ev’s were the normal. But then along comes the ice car. You can fill up in minutes, get heat as a byproduct, less likely to burn your house down, weighs less meaning less damage to roads, doesn’t require special tires, doesn’t require so many precious metals meaning less mining with big diesel consuming equipment and is less costly to build. People would be flocking to the dealership to buy them

[@akshonclip]

How many carbon credits just vanished into thin (smoke filled) air?

[@davidperry970]

Watched a video of a Tesla burning under water at a boat ramp. 1-2 feet below the surface you could see the flames burning.

[@davidchapman1519]

Clean Zero emissions for the Planet, they say.... I'll think I'll stay with my 70's vehicles

[@flash521]

Imagine that was your vehicle parked in your garage. Yikes. Toxic gas? Not environmentally friendly vehicles, who are your kidding. Thanks for the post.

[@basbass429]

An AC system flame exactly like a EV battery? there would be vids all over the internet. Since nearly every single car is equipped with a AC system.

[@justlookingaround]

Absolutely toxic contamination

[@WeisswindDragon]

The way the cars were parked in that separated lot is very suspicious to me... Could it be a form of insurance scam? Parking together recalled units and then get rid of them in a way it would get them some money through insurance?

[@StacheDTraining]

I believe the "separation" came after the fire. In initial video of the vehicles on fire you can't see the shipping containers or fencing.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@StacheDTraining The first thing I noticed in earlier Video reports was all the barriers. I am glade that you should the barriers were put up after the fact. The first thing you reported is where the plant is ect. It drives me crazy to see Local News reports replayed Natioanlly .. How am I supposed to know where Springfield is? There is a Springfield in almost every state. Do ICE cars catch on fire more often? I don't know there are 40 year old cars out there that have gasolines that rust out and leak on the exhaust system. Oil leaks ect .. Either they are a lot easier to put out .. or they can burn themselves out as soon as what is in the oil pan or gas tank burns out. Class 8 Trucks were burning down and burning trucks parked next to them in the early days of EPA mandated Diesel particle traps that inject fuel into themselves and have an ignitor to burn soot. I sure hope that the High costs for EV insurance does not get added to our ICE vehicle Insurance costs. I am glad I don't live in a city and use parking garages ect. There is a lot of Potential to use Hybrid vehicles. Imagine all the stops and starts and idle time that an ice engine would not have to be running in a pickup and deliver operation. Use Capacitors and much smaller battery packs .

[@georgeorwell5842]

​@mikeskidmore6754 ICE vehicles involved in fires are more often than not older models with lots of wear & minimal / poor maintenance, often during some sort of maintenance sparking the fire. They're generally not a big issue for responding FDs to put out, and quite often they don't even get called because they get put out with readily available hand held fire extinguishers before the fire can grow. A key point StacheD mentioned is frequency vs severity. As long as the Lithium Ion battery hasn't yet 'joined the party' the fire can be put out in similar fashion to an ICE veh fire, but once the battery goes into thermal runaway & starts off-gassing all bets are off.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@georgeorwell5842 That's the point I was trying to make. Older ICE cars catch on fire because they have rusty gas lines and oil leaks. What will happen when Electric cars get old? There are millions of old electric cars abandoned in big parking lots in China. They are an environmental hazard to dispose of and as far as I know they really don't or can't recycle lithium batteries .

[@kradius2169]

The recent San Diego & Vegas home fires with EV's could be insurance fraud. U2oob: San Diego house fire EV U2oob: 6 cats Vegas

[@Nonsensically]

I will never own an electric car. I’ve seen so many videos of electric car fires and I definitely don’t one at my house.

[@reinhardtkk]

It does appear the EV industry is hitting a hurdle

[@notthomasharrell]

.... called physics.

[@ward7voter111]

I live a couple of miles from the plant, and this certainly was a big event out there. It should be pointed out that the local fire department(s) responded and the fire was put out before 11:30 pm (within 1.5 hours), which is a testament to their training, ability to respond to such events, and the cooperation between Rivians' response team and the local fire and police departments. As mentioned, the containers were not there before the fire. My understanding from people that work there is that they were moved into the area to create a fire block during the event and to isolate the damaged vehicles after, in the event that one (or more) reignited, and to ensure that the vehicles weren't accessed before they (Rivian and the fire marshalls) could investigate root cause.

[@LindsayWarren-c4p]

Unless he took photos of a similar incident that wasn’t there and in daytime, this video wasn’t from thee or he was mistaken. BN is my hometown and was surprised to see this. Glad everyone was ok.

[@OldCanadianguy953]

So they’ll soon have a fire sale on their crappy EVs.😂😂😂