Mauler and Wolf Rank the Game of Thrones Characters - Spoilers.

[@EveryFrameAPause]

For those wondering what our criteria is and how this was constructed.....I think we all know it mostly made no sense and we were just having some fun. If we do it again, we will probably try and come up with something stricter, pop suggestions below and we might use one of them as a "grading system" next time o/

[@valentinward3657]

Next time, Daenerys is still placed in the Rickon tier... REEEEEEEE

[@doubt_]

D - Depth I - Influence on Story C - Characterization C - Consistency O - Originality

[@vaguedave4622]

For a grading system what about "character's that were consistent in regards to their respective flaws / powers / motivations" or "character tier by how well written they are / how fleshed out they are." or "Character's by mary-sue / gary-stu status."

[@dennislief4044]

Do you have a link to the site? I want to make my own list.

[@arenkai]

I thought this was an ironic and cynical take because everybody else is doing Tier lists at the moment. Making it seriously would ruin the joke. I'm okay with this just being a laid back and fun moment

[@trajanthegreat2928]

Janos Slynt is not on this list?! His powerful friends at court will hear about this!

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

lol

[@IchCharacter]

Does he get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, what am I saying? Of course he doesn't.

[@JayCity10]

But we are kin, Stark and Karlstark. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@tfunkman]

They didn't question his honor...they are denying it's existence

[@ThatDangerousWolf]

Friends at court: new phone who dis

[@SovereignTurkey]

mauler- "lets put a teir between D and F, i wonder what it should be" E- "am i a joke to you"

[@johnsnow04]

Never understood Murican logic behind grading. "We will make our grading on alphabet but instead of E we will give F". Why? Because F is for "Failing"? Why then best grade isn't "E" for "Excellence"? Just do 1-5 like rest of the world lol

[@smugalice6206]

John Snow But then it’d get confused for “1st place” and “1/5 stars”

[@Asfalgadi]

@@johnsnow04 well... here is 1-10 but okay

[@inkadinka9517]

​@@johnsnow04 It's because F technically isn't on the scale. If you passed the class, you go on the ABCD ranking; if you fail, you get a Failure mark that just so happens to be pretty close alphabetically to the other sequential grades. I know Europeans are always looking for reasons to feel superior but you could at least try to look into why people in other parts of the world do what they do

[@stacyhamilton2619]

tier* Imperail*

[@lostcause78]

"He's in the show until he leaves and then comes back" - Wolf, ladies and gentlemen.

[@dusky5535]

Speech 100

[@devyboo2]

@@dusky5535 IQ = Room temperature

[@TrajGreekFire]

that foreshadowing

[@MassiveiusBiggus]

Very deep and emotional.

[@kchennessey8781]

"Tommen took king's landing too literally" LMAO

[@Yodah97]

I know I'm two years late but you just made me laugh out loud. Kudos, sir.

[@rjsteeves]

Mauler: What about this guy? Wolf: He.... doesn't really do anything... repeat 30 times

[@ct7567CaptRex]

Tells you more about the charakters of this show than about wolfe.

[@Maltesfilm]

CT-7567 Captain Rex not really, it depends on how you define doing something

[@johnochiltree1170]

@@Maltesfilm’define doing something.’ Advancing the plot?

[@Moh_Flash64]

@@ct7567CaptRex nah he just want the character to do anything and be on screen to much, their only bar for rating most of the characters is he does not do anything (physically) or he isn't in it that much. they put fking euron in B tier 💀

[@MauLerYT]

#JUSTICEFORCATELYN

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

That's your opinion.

[@choueriito2548]

Catelyn's baffling idiocy is Rickon tier worthy.

[@mariokarter13]

I can't believe you named Mary Sue as your favorite character.

[@themostdop3533]

In a way Cat is at least partially responsible for starting the war for the throne by kidnapping Tyrion. Her releasing Jamie also led to Brienne's whole arc and Jamie losing his hand. To say she had no impact on the story just feels like it's ignoring not only her direct actions but the effects that they led to. Also Euron in the show is absolutely abysmal, i dont know how you can excuse writing that awful and let him stay in B. He told his people to build a thousand freaking ships and they did so in less than a year when they basically live in a coastal wasteland with no trees or fertile soil or anything. He also sneaks his enormous armada up on people like 3 or 4 times throughout the show in broad daylight or in clear nights, it's ridiculous. Not to mention him just being incredibly flat and one note with no real arc or development, much like Ramsay. Euron is at best a plot device and the plot shit he does is only aided by horrendous writing.

[@davidwilson6577]

I don't know if Catelyn is worse in the show or books, which makes her one of the best in the show.

[@LightningNC]

Sansa comes up, the chat is flying, suggestions everywhere, and through it all, I see someone named "Jeff Bartlett" suggest that Sansa be placed in "A" for "A-cup." A man of taste, I see.

[@kloschuessel773]

LightningNC the starks are flat, its is known

[@MFChickenFlipper]

@@kloschuessel773 Arya isn't

[@rosesongoku6980]

MFChickenFlipper 😏

[@LoveThisRealWoman]

Canadian Tuxedo nice words of wisdom.

[@thatguywiththeface5232]

@@zealot360 Confucius say...

[@ct7567CaptRex]

Danearys in rickon tier thanks to chat. Me: I love democracy

[@valentinward3657]

That triggered me.

[@ct7567CaptRex]

@@valentinward3657 good, good. Let the hate flow through you!!!

[@SFTaYZa]

@@valentinward3657 Well you're wrong so who cares lol

[@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish]

I love the Republic

[@wheeliebin18]

@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish Ah, a man of culture I see.

[@AH-be6bu]

Nobody: Absolutely no one: Wolf: "he doesn't really do anything..."

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

clearly someone, dipshit

[@eldaxeruskalocraw4213]

MauLer: *mentions literally any character* Wolf: "well, he doesn't exactly do much..."

[@josephstromoski2117]

Also Wolf: Who is that?

[@NCHaskew]

Also Wolf: "I literally don't remember who that is" (like it's some shocking revelation the 20th time he says it.)

[@edd8914]

Euron is B tier and yet Catelyn is C tier, that's just wrong.

[@VenomtheOne]

Catelyn is a goody twoshoes dumbass. If we are talking about book Euron, he should actually be S tier.

[@magiv4205]

I like Catelyn more in the show than in the book, but even in the show, she's nobody spectacular. I don't hate her as much as I hate her in the books, though. In the books, she's a selfish, stupid cunt who acts all good and holy. In the show she's actually remorseful for some of the bad things she's done, and even though she still does many stupid things, her actions are a little more humanised.

[@MisterAnimann]

@@VenomtheOne It's not book Euron though and he's D tier at best

[@factfraud9437]

@@VenomtheOne But we aren't, so that's a pointless argument

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@magiv4205 Cat is the prime reason why you dont bring your mother to war...unless you want said mother to cause you to lose the war

[@asimplewizard]

So, my only criticism of this list is that you guys put a massive emphasis on the physical actions of characters, and next to no emphasis on how they helped other arcs or characters grow.

[@dougdynamo9398]

That's kind of my take on their list as well. There's too much emphasis placed on how each character drove the plot, but I guess we'd be here for hours in the double digits if they analyzed each character. It was supposed to be something relatively quick that was fun.

[@temporaneo617]

*MASSIVE*

[@backstabbingscumbag6657]

Well to be fair there weren’t really any decent or consistent arcs in the show. There would’ve been if the writers had used the books to help them with the characters, but no they thought they could write better than GRRM.

[@backstabbingscumbag6657]

Ok, they actually did Characters like Ned, Robert and Viserys right all the way to their deaths, but that was in season when they actually tried to adapt the source material. Though I think Ned’s character would’ve translated better if they had put the flashbacks and dream sequences from the books into the show.

[@federicoarmada8775]

Also, they don't seem to care about how much sense it makes, as long as it's something, or what their personality is, as long as they have one. Example: Euron Greyjoy, a one dimensional pirate who for some reason only wants to become important and fuck Cersei, spends two seasons teleporting in front of all his enemies along with his float and stars some of the dumbest moments in the show because the plot wants him to. Mauler & Rags: "He did a lot, B-tier."

[@blacklotus561]

Margaery should be A-tier at least, she was an amazing character that was able to fool almost everybody except Cersei. She played her cards perfectly, imo and was a great improvement from the books. She was also the only person in the entire show that treated Joffrey with anything but contempt and it worked for her, even if it was feigned.

[@Katyamuffin]

Also tits. That's a good big bonus right there.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Margaery isn't a POV in the books and (like most characters) is younger, so we can't judge her (yet)

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

could not stand her

[@blazefa.]

@@Katyamuffin 2 big bonuses

[@SolarDragon007]

I agree. A really interesting character and hot as hell to boot.

[@Arko777777]

Me before episode 5: C'mon Dany doesn't deserve Rickon tier. She's like B/B- tier with the way you judge other characters. Me after epidode 5: Snek tier!

[@smiguli8851]

I love how generally the earlier in the show that the character died, the higher they are on the list.

[@ikoandreas5085]

Cause anyone who died after s5 or maybe 6 got a terrible death other than like Theon

[@realmofloredor]

I can’t believe this list didn’t include the FOOCKIN LEGEND OF GIN ALLEY.

[@solarsailer4166]

Suggestions for a stricter list: - clear separation between subjective and objective assessment. For example, I dislike Catelyn Stark as a person, but I thought she was an excellent character and caused a lot of the conflict in S1-2. - decide whether or not you go just by book or by show as reaction to show taints assessment. - assign points for particulars, 1 point for major plot contributions, 1 point for strong characterisation/personality, etc. Question: Based on your exchange with Wolf, do you think all characters should have contributions because there are hundreds of good side characters? They don't move the plot along in large ways, but they have other roles. It's possible I misunderstood.

[@DoddyIshamel]

You guys way underestimate Qyburn. He was sole survivor of the mountains torture fest, then saved Jamie when his hand was cut off, set Jamie to his Brienne rescue, then replaced Varys as spymaster and took over his network, designed the scorpions, made the mountain, reverse engineered and identified the Dornish poison which killed Myrcella and recreated it plus it's antidote for Cersei, became hand after setting up the destruction of the Sept and eliminating Pycelle. Since Cersei is so passive Qyburn and Euron basically carry that side of the plot in the later series.

[@factfraud9437]

The main issue with him is that his plot doesn't really go anywhere. By season 7 he's just Cersei's henchman, nothing much to him at that point.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

he's just a one dimensional lackey

[@abracelin]

D&D tier: a tier used for characters who were great until season 5 when D&D got sole control of them

[@winterman8248]

thats basically EVERYONE

[@zamarickz]

I feel like people forget about some of the characters that didn't live that long. Oberyn was awesome. Robb Stark was awesome. Jeor Mormont was awesome. Ned and Robert were both really great. Barristan's "retirement" scene is one of my favorites in the entire show. Mance Rayder was really great. Khal Drogo. Jaime was the best until he got butchered post-season 4. Also, RIP GOT.

[@winterman8248]

agreeeeeed!

[@MartinKirbits]

Disagree with how you rank them based on significance and not quality at times. Edit: I'd suggest judging smaller characters based on how well they fulfil the role of that character and add arcs to more major ones.

[@ETicu]

Too true! A bit too much weight on "how much they did" versus how well they were executed. Really shitty characters could always be instrumental to the plot.

[@TomCFC8]

Yep. And they're not even consistent with it, for example if this were the metric Arya, Daenerys and Euron should all be MUCH higher.

[@TyrDrum]

@@TomCFC8 Democracy is why Daenerys is in rickon tier; the mob voted, thus, the mob has spoken.

[@fastenedcarrot9570]

@@TyrDrum I love democracy.

[@PreeSpunky]

"MauLer and Wolf Rank Times When our Expectations Were Subverted - Tier List"

[@cyberdystopia6029]

How come you didn't just do 2 lists: for potential and execution? So much "amount of screen-time and action participation"-based issues can be avoided to arrive to a lot more objective result. For example: Hodor is a walking plot device to deliver poor cripple to his destiny - E/F tier character potential, but the brilliance of building up emotional connection with his struggles puts him to S/A tier in execution. On the other hand Tirion is Tywin tier in potential, but is actively being retarded from Season 3 onwards, so ends up being E tier in execution.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Exactly! They should evaluate what the idea being the characters are. edit: But then most ideas will be always S and A and only execution will vary :D

[@cyberdystopia6029]

@@SETHthegodofchaos That's kinda how it should be for major characters in an epic though. And some minor ones like Hodor or Bronn can actually be low in potential but high in execution. It would have definitely been super entertaining to see them discussing the reasons all surviving up to Season 8 characters end up in the F tier.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@cyberdystopia6029 Yep, most of the time the reason why people are alive is because they are good at something, but that trait usually is also their downfall. So I wonder how the ranking would look like from that standpoint. (Littlefinger F probably xd)

[@Silverman216]

I'm so glad yall put Olena in Tywin tier, I was yelling at my screen PUT HER IN FOOKIN TYWIN TIER, SHE'S NOT S TIER!! loool well done lads!

[@bplup6419]

"Lhysa Arryn doesn't do anything." *YOU WHAT MATE*

[@dylannichollph1934]

Nice until dawn Profile Picture. I approve

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

in terms of agency. everything she is is orders from baelish

[@MusaMansu]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Most characters are manipulated by Baelish.

[@CapitalZ100]

Next time you do one of these you should use categories: interest, consistency, influence, potential (included for those that are killed early) & acting. It would give the conversation more structure & create a balanced rating sysyem. Would also cut out the "should be". Each score is out of 10. S - 45+ (9+ for each) A - 40-44 B - 35-39 C - 30-34 D - 25-29 E - 20-24 F - 15-19 Jared: 0-14 An example, Renly Baratheon Interest: 6 Consistancy: 9 Influence: 3 Potential: 7 Acting: 7 Could have a final subjective addition. Say from -5 to +5 for well reasoned arguments. With our previous example we could go -3 for having been infected by, and unable to cure, "the gay".

[@CapitalZ100]

😂 I love Joffrey & it's funny to watch the actor in interviews because he's the nicest bloke. I didn't think they could create a better antagonist until Ramsay rocked up.

[@Jungbeck]

This comment should be at the top.

[@Arphemius]

14:30 MauLer: "A new Tier between D and F. I'll call it..." Me: "E?" MauLer: "...D-!" E: "The fuck did I do?"

[@mariokarter13]

Never thought I'd see a western live action series with an anime-only ending.

[@Avarn388]

mariokarter13 I know. It’s crazy. It’s FMA 2003 all over only done terribly. 2003 was pretty good.

[@magiv4205]

@@Avarn388 how dare you put FMA 03 in the same category with what has become of GoT. FMA is amazing, in some aspects weaker, in others stronger than the manga/Brotherhood. Don't compare it to this shitshow please

[@holysecret2]

49:00 honestly Tyrion should be in the "ruined" C category. He is not unused, they destroyed his character in the later seasons, same as Arya and Stannis.

[@HeavyOverlords]

Now do the same thing with Star Wars characters 👀

[@thewaterguy17]

The Shitty Disney Canon or the Better but still very flawed Legends Canon?

[@HeavyOverlords]

@@thewaterguy17 The film canon (including the disney one)

[@thewaterguy17]

@@HeavyOverlords That would be interesting, like Luke was fantastic and then he got ruined but is that Luke's fault or the writing? Could be alot to talk about, that and I want to see Jar Jar ranked above Hux

[@TyrDrum]

Obiwan tier EU canon tier Disney canon tier Ray tier

[@HelloZukoHere7]

Purple Haired Lesbian Tier F: Jar Jar, Rey, that Orange bitch, Rose Teco E: Kylo Ren, Fin, BB8 D: C3PO, Mace Windu, Lando, Poe C: Chewwy, R2, Grand Marf Tarkin A: Leia, Palpatine, Admiral Akbar S: Han, Vader, Obi Wan, Yoda Luke Tier: Luke Not really well thought out, just off the top of my head

[@TheRitva26]

So glad to see there's so many who also hate Daenerys in the show with a passion. All my irl friends love her but then again those same people called me crazy for shitting on season 7 when it came out. They even liked the first episodes of season 8 until they noticed the backlash. It's like people don't have a mind of their own

[@Laukaus11]

I never really thought about Daenerys that much, but looking back, her story is kind of a fucking mess.

[@Hys868]

Juho Hirvonen especially if the leaks are true

[@Laukaus11]

@@Hys868 Leaks? Care to elaborate? I don't mind potential spoilers, I'm beyond caring at this point.

[@jd2792]

@@Laukaus11 from what I seen from the leak she goes mad killes varys and tyrion burn King landing to the ground jon kills her but he dosent take the throne cersei dies with jamie and bran creates a concile and they rule everyone.

[@Katyamuffin]

It's been a while since I laughed as I hard as I did at "B for Bad Bussy"

[@rhakeshg9406]

The mountain is not on the list but the random guy from the play is😂😂😂

[@kloschuessel773]

Yeeees. Tywin has his own tier :D Best character.

[@SvendleBerries]

As Tywin would say... "Thats not an opinion, its a fact!"

[@owendoll2983]

Ros is based off a book character called Alayaya, she essentially serves the same purpose, just goes by a different name.

[@adamgardner3768]

I didn’t know I needed this until I saw the notification.

[@guitarded55]

Rickon doesn't necessarily need to be saved in the books, he's just thought by most to be dead and wyman manderly wants to fetch him from where he is so he can be declared king or warden of the North for the North to rally behind him. The plan is that stannis brings a stark back to rule the North so that they would declare for him. See Rickon could be quite essential... If the book ever releases. Edit: I guess spoilers, but if you didn't read the books already, you have boring taste and I don't want to be friends with you.

[@TyrDrum]

Ice and fire is the only good one! *Come at meh*

[@doubt_]

Hey, Wolf, who does anything, mate? Does Yoda do anything in the OT? Or Palpatine, for that matter? Are they bad because they're basically useless by your standard?

[@shadowapocalypse9012]

Don't you know you're not allowed to criticize someone's opinion unless they make a video about it?

[@ginge641]

Care to actually refute what he said instead of being ridiculously vague?

[@doubt_]

@@ginge641 Sure. His argument for criticizing a lot of characters - like Catelyn, for example, is saying that they don't exactly do anything. First and foremost, that is extremely vague - do only physical actions count, and if so, isn't Daenerys the best character ever by that standard? A lot of characters don't perform incredible physical feats but perform other actions that further the plot - they plot, they advise, betray, et cetera. The examples I bring are of characters that weren't hopping about and genociding millions of minions - at least in the OT, they were quite subdued in their presence and yet were instrumental to the plot. I'm not sure if my initial statement is that vague, to be honest. I'd say Wolf was much more vague in his "they don't do anything" approach. I'm not a fan of Game of Thrones, and certainly not a defender of any of the characters in that fucking series. What concerns me is that Wolf is a media critic, and as such, should have more to say when it comes to critiquing media. Let me know if this was too vague as well, mate.

[@ginge641]

@@doubt_ No vagueness here. Wolf's judgements in this stream are off the cuff and heavily subjective. I would hope that, if he were to make a video on this, that he'd be far more specific and objective when operating with a script and time to find examples. I would guess that he means these characters don't do much independently. Catlyn is vital to the plot, but every action she takes is in the service of Ned, Rob or her family in general. But that's what happens when you write a supporting character, they have relatively less agency than the main characters.

[@sammalcolmson5169]

I love how they have to discuss whether a character was damaged after D&D took over the plot

[@Anuojat]

Tywin, Best written Character. Worst written character(S), Sand snakes. My most hated and evil character: The high sparrow.

[@xanthelinhs2143]

The Sand Snakes were awful but Dany has to be the worst simply for ruining every character that ends up in her story. Barristan, Tyrion, Jon, Varys, hell even Theon gets worse when they pledge to Dany

[@spooplegeist]

“Bad Poossy” tier?

[@NCHaskew]

I assume the high sparrow because of the anti-gay? 'cause other than that, he's incredibly morally on the right. Which is why his character is way better in the book

[@blazefa.]

@@NCHaskew Na he’s so fucking annoying

[@MunchinOnDew]

Mauler & Wolf: Let's make a tier video for GoT Characters! *Starts streaming* Mauler & Wolf: Okay chat, how do we make a tier video for GoT Characters!?

[@ShavierTheHedgehog]

I dont watch this show. I just like to listen to Mauler and Wolf.

[@soyuzdavillan721]

To be honest, I didn't like the show and didn't start watching it til season 6 come out then I got hooked. It's worth a watch if you haven't since you commented haha

[@holysecret2]

1:52:50 also Night King, the King's Guard traitor jon executes at the wall and the one who kills Arya's sword fighting master, the one she kills in Braavos. If you are gonna include the theater people, you should at least include that one main Dothraki guy. Lots of the Northmen are missing as well; Karstark, Big Jon Umber, even little Lyanna Mormont. That's all I can think of as of right now. Actually, I think Walder Frey himself is missing, unless I am just not seeing him. Other than that, as chat mentioned, the Mountain is missing, too. How about Ilyn Payne, possibly the direwolves, the Three-Eyed Raven. Ah, the Iron Bank people who were cut out of the show for some reason, also the Golden Company that was totally wasted. I think now I'm actually at my limit for now. edit: Daenerys also had that one slave advisor that showed her how to make love, and who later betrayed her with that black rich guy, I don't remember the city's name or his. He should be included as a character as well, by the way. That reminds me of that warlock person who can clone himself, maybe some other characters of that arc, too. eeedit: Oh that guy we see at the very start of the show, who gives Daenerys the dragon eggs, I believe he is playing a bigger role in the books. I think doing a list like this you can also "hold the show accountable" for how much they changed from the books, and how it affected the rest of the characters. After the show is done, I think it would be really constructive/productive to really point all of that out.

[@jakefrost7404]

*_From "Queen of Dragons" to "Mother of Memes."_* Bitch got rightfully Rick-Rolled. >_

[@hansbansor5170]

I really liked the character of tommen in the show. Sure he was a marionette and a minor character, but he was an interesting contrast to joffrey - since his story showed what would have happened if joffrey wasnt insane. I liked the he wanted to be righteous and kind, but didnt know how - and that he was so sad that he failed that he ended up killing himself. And I totally bought it. Also he enabled the fun interactions between margerey and cercei. Loved their subtones in their conversations.

[@Lhopx21]

Do I watch GOT? Nope. Do I love watching Mauler and Wolf discuss and argue about things? Yep. So am I gonna watch this entire stream about a show I've never seen? You bet!

[@ryanburke9490]

My favorite part re-watching this is realizing that they made this list right before the bells

[@joshhfletchh4841]

anyone: wolf: but what does he do?

[@TwentyPercentDash]

The EFAP'ers need to react to _"3 Minutes of the Game of Thrones Cast Being Disappointed by Season 8"_ by Dankius M. Meme

[@ikoandreas5085]

Saying Tyrion wasnt great in s3-4 is the stupidest most petty take ever💀

[@_adelinaaa_]

This was incredibly funny😂😂😂

[@TomCFC8]

Best acted and best written should be how they're ranked. You're ranking them on 'impact' but have Daenerys near the bottom... also whatever your metric is Stannis and Catelyn should be higher.

[@UnicornStorm]

well, Stannis started out great and than got ruined by the start of season... 4 I think it was

[@InfiniteBeak]

Best acted and best written, Dany would still be at the bottom, Emilia Clarke has the range of a spoon

[@Jungbeck]

Charlie Burns shows how subpar your knowledge of acting is. Emilia Clarke does a really good job with her character and what she has to work with based on the script. I have no idea how you can say she is a bad actress.

[@crisvaylon4280]

@@InfiniteBeak she filmed with green screen, tasked with playing an emotional yet emotionless leader, best actress in show by end, the list is clearly jokes, in terms of iconic standing she may be the greatest character, in fact not may be, definitively is.

[@isleofredemption]

"I'm gonna leave [Tyrion] in B. I feel like-... who knows. He might recover by the end of this season to at least do SOMEthing." *Heavy sigh*

[@FecklessDuoYT]

Honestly I think Bronn should of been in A- tier, he used to be a really key character, and then they sort of just forgot what to do with him. He saved Tyrion's life multiple times fought for him in trial by combat, was a key component at the battle of the blackwater, became commander of the city watch and a knight, trained Jamie after he lost his hand, convinced Jamie to visit Tyrion in prison. Went on the mission to Dawn and Riverrun, shot a dragon. And now he is the wealthiest man in Westeros XD

[@bulbousbungleton8691]

A prime example of how wolf doesn't really form his own opinions and just guesses at what mauler is going to say....

[@alexbeck8568]

That’s a take, I suppose

[@jacobyoung9981]

Theon is the only character with a complete, satisfying arch (you could argue Jorah and the Hound too but I feel theon is most complete).

[@_Capybara_]

She deserves to be in Rickon Tier after the latest episode.

[@noblekatana2270]

I miss wolf I hope he is doing okay

[@robbedoes8619]

Alot of important characters are missing, while some non-important are there. Very weird.

[@theduxabides9274]

Loras does A LOT more in the books; after Renly dies, Stannis only gains a fraction of the Stormlands forces he could have because Loras and Randyll Tarly lead the forces of the Reach at Bitterbridge, to prevent the Stormlands' infantry from defecting to Stannis' army. He joins the Kings' Guard and serves under Joffrey and Tommen; he actually becomes kind of a big brother/mentor to Tommen by helping him train in AFFC. Cersei sends him to end the Siege of Dragonstone, and he's reported to have been badly burned by boiling oil while leading the final assault over the battlements. But in the show he's The Big Gay, and the only real badass moment he gets is taken from his brother Garlan in ACOK, namely donning the armour of Renly Baratheon and lifting the Siege of King's Landing as 'Renly's Ghost.'

[@systmerr9445]

Mauler: "Let's put a tier between D and F, I'll call it D-". Letter E: :(

[@smugalice6206]

Teir list of EFAP guests

[@jandcstopmotion7774]

I need this

[@ashenwraith2309]

SS- E;R and Rags

[@SideBurns]

Jay is J rank

[@smugalice6206]

MajorLee >>> Everyone else

[@smugalice6206]

Mark Quae Vacui You mean Rag’s?

[@captainspire9094]

Adding insult to injury, I keep seeing that blasted GoT app game ad on nearly every KZbin video.

[@jowoman7799]

Does anyone know the update on Jared? I haven't heard from him since that... very controversial stream.

[@zachgilbert3815]

ProJared, Jared Genesis or Jared from Subway?

[@zachgilbert3815]

I dont think any of them are doing good......

[@jowoman7799]

@@zachgilbert3815 Jared Genesis. But if you find out about the others as well that will help me survive.

[@TheDonDidNothingWrong]

The name "Jared" is cursed I tells ya.

[@darthmuppetthehungry]

Watching this made me nostalgic for the first four seasons 😢

[@idawg7332]

Now that the show is done and most of the characters in season 8 were either killed, butchered, or both I would say the best characters are ones that died before they could be ruined: Robert Baratheon, Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Catelyn Stark, Oberyn Martell, Ygritte, Tywin Lannister, Margaery Tyrell, Olenna Tyrell, and Ramsay Bolton and Joffrey (they were interesting to watch even though they were horrible people). I guess the hound and theon also has decent endings but that's it

[@TheSchoolyD]

I am still waiting for all episodes to air. Still, it was impossible to escape the most egregious spoilers. I am now looking forward to the trainwreck ahead.

[@HalbdaemonKite]

2:26:18 I will never get over the fact that in Silent Hill, he plays the character that dies in the game. Yet he actually survives this.

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

Well.... this is going to need an update after the last episode...

[@RanMouri82]

Must be tricky to rate characters based on the show, considering what a disservice the show did to the best characters. There's a big difference between the complexity and potential of various characters vs. how they were wasted in the show.

[@abrahemsamander3967]

As useless as rickon was, couldn’t we Atleast have bran mourn him? I know his the three eyed emotionless zombie now but he was the one who was caring for rickon before he sent of with Osha, also we couldn’t get a scene of him learning about osha’s death? Wasn’t she an important character and friend to him earlier in his arc?

[@fakecubed]

Catelyn Stark was very well acted. The actress was great and she brought so much to that role. I'm very glad she was in the story and I was very sorry when she died. That's why everyone raters her so highly. But as a character, in that world, she was terrible. She blundered the whole Seven Kingdoms into massive wars that basically got everyone killed. The one bit of good advice she gave to Robb, Robb ignored, so she was also ineffectual. And I don't really blame him since everything else she was advising would've been disastrous for the war effort and every decision she made on her own was just a nightmare.

[@alexanderrique579]

Wolf asks "what did they do?" Enough times I was beginning to question if he seen the show lol

[@MrJewishfox]

This was a fun listen . I love efap too btw and take care and have a great day night or whenever. Peace out

[@tired8788]

Tywin at the top. You win the game. Night King was to afraid to come south while that man was alive.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

lol bullshit. why would they be afraid of him when he didnt even beleive in their existence and got humiliated repeatedly by a boy. they simply got south when they knew they could knock it down.

[@tired8788]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 It was a joke. I made a joke. Jokes are things people do for lols. But since you brought it up, you're only as good as your last game....Tywin humiliated Robb when his entire army was wiped out at a wedding. That being said, i highly doubt Daddy Lanninster would have advocated for deploying infantry behind artillery....outside the fucking walls.

[@nathanbarnett4832]

@@tired8788 Yeah, but he couldn't outsmart a boy on the battlefield. Kinda lame.

[@Scott100W]

This would have been way more entertaining if they had seen all of season 8 beforehand

[@yaboy8846]

Stannic is C tier? Look how they massacred my boy

[@trajanthegreat2928]

I feel like if a character’s still alive in Season 8 it drops them down a tier in their character and how much I like them

[@andyl2599]

Enjoying the tier list, if i was watching it live i will suggest the tier list have a x-y axis tier, more left equals to character integrity like in B- Mel is more consistent than like tyrion got F up.

[@hootsgoobs4795]

wolf is trying to sound so smart makes my fuckin head hurt

[@ShadeStormXD]

mauler out here ranking characters based on quality, development, actions, etc wolf: >well they didnt do a lot

[@VaporSulla]

They wasted so much potential in so many characters is almost a crime. What a shame. It's almost like the writers hated GoT, it's the very same feeling I had about Rian Johnson and TLJ.

[@guitarded55]

I think they simply aren't that good at writing. David Benioff wrote X-Men Origins Wolverine ffs. Given how complex this story can get, D&D seem to really not be capable of writing in things they would like (just look how things turned out after they couldn't work with the books anymore).

[@SolarDragon007]

I think Rian Johnson genuinely just wanted to fuck Star Wars, but I think D&D are just lazy and incompetent.

[@thewickerman5121]

2:15:00 LOL! But in all seriousness, I don’t really want to sound aggressive, I was just curious if and how wolf will respond. I admit my argument was poor and probably should get better at it.

[@MoonlitMarch]

You misspelled Tywin you freaking fricks

[@jakefrost7404]

They can NEVER be quenched!

[@SvendleBerries]

*massives

[@marcofromtropoje3169]

I’m so glad wolf is a Sean bean fan

[@cameronbarge3337]

Davos is going to find Rickon on Skaggos. Supposedly an island of cannibals.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Rickon turning into a man-wolf comfirmed

[@ArnoVdVelde]

Some of these probably got knocked down a notch with the new episodes.

[@Porterhaus94]

Daenerys is now Snek Tier.

[@abrahemsamander3967]

I wonder what was the point of Ros’s character? Wouldn’t it make more sense if she was like a Jayne pool type of character? Think about it, she’s from winter fell she’s a ginger, they could’ve used her as a replacement Sansa to marry her to Ramsey Bolton, this would also have her tie back into theons arc. Just a thought. That scene with her and little finger is creepy though. I wish the show could’ve added in more of Roberts bastards. Like that vale horse girl, and that young boy who lived with stannis at storms end.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

Ros was an important character. She was the whore point of view of the show. She represented the little people and how they are screwed by this drive for power

[@Synthgamer]

@MooLer Can you guys rank the character deaths after the final episode?

[@robbomegavlkafenryka6158]

2:55 the cannibal island that owes the Starks loyalty but doesn’t like it.

[@QazwerDave]

I did Strong (S), Good, Medium, Small and Nothing Roles, and between Small and Medium I made a "Ruined" tier, for characters from the books and the first 4 seasons that are ruined by the show, containing characters like Stannis, Tyrion, Varys, LittleFinger, Jaime, Jon Snow, Cercei, Euron, Deanerys, Doran Martell and Ellaria Sand. Nomatter how good the characters was before they got ruined, after that they are nothing !!

[@kchennessey8781]

Arthur Dayne should have been on the list. He didn't have much screen time but he had one of the most awesome scenes in the whole series

[@partariop4626]

can't believe you left out the FOOKIN LEGEND of Gin Alley

[@InfiniteBeak]

You look like a fuckin ball sack

[@Westy1008]

My god I would love to see this done again in hindsight I nearly did a spit take so many times

[@patcrane7262]

You stand in the presence of Daenerys Dragon of the house Stormborn, First of the Burnt, Queen of the Great Grass and Chains, Khaleesi of the Andal Sea, the Unnamed, Breaker of Targaryens and Mother of the First Men.

[@JayCity10]

They have read the multiple good arguments, as to why Joffrey should be higher, yet they are still not convinced.

[@apollyon9946]

Elaria should be Rickon--------- tier, she is the whole entire reason for the Dorne plot, just because D&D liked her actress. They created that storyline just to see her.

[@joshcorbett4787]

Euron not being the lowest tier, is that a joke.

[@diobrando5896]

I'm the man that killed Jaime Lannister

[@HyoureiKyouran]

Euron belongs in Bowmaster Tier.