PART 3: 2018+ Goldwing Engine Guard / Belly Pan Shootout!!! DESTRUCTIVE TESTING!!! by Max McAllister

[@vicaguzzi6115]

Good test, Max. I bought your guard shortly after purchasing my 23 DCT, but I think the main concern has always been the fact that your guard bolts to the engine cases and not the frame. No doubt that your guard is more durable as long as the mounting bolts don’t transfer the damage to the engine cases. After seeing a previous video of a guard that your company replaced after being damaged with NO damage to the engine itself was what completely convinced me.

[@ing.michaltrubka4446]

a good guard is that one that you can destroy by absorbing of the crash. it is nonsence to have a too strong guard

[@unicornhairhead]

I installed mine last week. I was super impressed with the quality and strength of the guard. It felt good putting something so substantial on my mostly plastic bike and now I have a video to show my wife why I spent the extra bucks. Another great video Max. Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

Gotta keep the accountant on board!

[@wenditaylor2354]

I ordered your plate the day before my bike was delivered because I was told it did not have a belly plate - the bike arrived with the Wingstuff plate fitted. I was a bit annoyed with myself for not waiting a day to order but am now well pleased after seeing this video! I'll rip that Wingstuff plate right off as soon as my Traxxion plate shows up here in the UK.

[@Traxxion]

HAHA! Sorry you spent the extra money...

[@wenditaylor2354]

@@Traxxion I'm not, since seeing how poorly the Wingstuff plate performed in your tests :/

[@stevenrichart3891]

Hi Max, I appreciate the quality of your products and how hard you work to be innovative. Great work!

[@Traxxion]

I appreciate that!

[@io3010]

I just bought a 2024 DTC bagger; it had 1 mile on it when I installed the Traxxion guard! Don't ride your Goldwing without it, that aluminum engine hangs very low with zero protection, thanks Honda? I'm good to go now! Traxxion guard is an solid piece of metal, fits perfectly, well worth the money! Thanks, Max, for a great American made product!

[@Traxxion]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Dundertaker1]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@lesleygoodwin7863]

Enjoyed, Enjoyed, Enjoyed. Especially the stool breaking!

[@Traxxion]

Hey, my parts guy isn't very happy! But he gets to pick a nice new one today!

[@lesleygoodwin7863]

@@Traxxion I enjoyed the video, since I bought and installed the Traxxion Dynamic Engine Protection Guard when it was first introduced. I knew my 2021 DCT Goldwing was getting the best protection from an outstanding Goldwing engineering team. Todate, I have been very satisfied with the Traxxion Dynamics Engine Guard, knowing that it's the best designed protection for the beautiful Honda Goldwing DCT engine. And yes, I have heard some bangs and clunks down there while riding along busy Southern California freeways.

[@Traxxion]

@@lesleygoodwin7863 I am glad to hear that it is holding up to the "long term test"!

[@hermanbrown4786]

Your test was fair on all five engine guards, sorry to say I purchased the Wingstuff last year trying to save money and from viewing your testing I am very disappointed I wasted my money on the Wingstuff, but there is my proof your guard is 100% Abrams Main Battle Tank battle tested, thanks Max 👍🏾👍🏾

[@Traxxion]

Thanks for giving me the fair rating, I worked hard on this

[@normstoltz9516]

ordered mine before this video, should arrive today, easy to see others don't compare.

[@Traxxion]

Thank you for your business!

[@SullyCuse]

Max, here's a few bucks to go toward your new white board. :-) Thanks for the test. I guess someone will have an opportunity to get a near brand new Wingstuff bellypan at a great discount on eBay soon, as I am buying the Traxxion Engine guard and don't need it any longer. That's what I get for trying to "save" a few bucks originally.

[@Traxxion]

Contact me by email, I have a deal for you! [e-mail]

[@Traxxion]

Thanks for the SUPER THANKS!

[@michaelcadiz1004]

Darn I am impressed, GREAT JOB!!!

[@Traxxion]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@FREE_PUREBLOOD333]

Wow!!! What a brutal test but so fitting to show how much more superior and effective your products is in comparison to all the others. Hats off to you max.. if I had a gold wing Traxxion products would be the manufacturer of choice for my parts. 🇬🇧💨👍

[@Traxxion]

Thanks!

[@jwwaco]

Reminds me of the Red Green Show. Nice job. I’ll give you a 5 out of 5.

[@Traxxion]

Nice!

[@mitchrand9466]

Bought mine when 1st available, very happy with purchase! Did whack a speed bump on cross country trip, no damage!!

[@Traxxion]

Great to hear!

[@cmoerob]

Good Job Max. For all the people that think there is no chance to hit a debri on the road, my wife ran over some kind of tractor trailor drum brake with the Honda Accord and that ripped one of the engine mount off and wreck all the exaust pipe and muffler. It could of been worst .. you never kow what is going to fall in front of you !! don't think twice get the Traxxion Dynamics Engine Case Guard and ride safe :)

[@Traxxion]

When you run stuff over, it can definitely get shot up with more force than I could generate in this simple testing!!!

[@javig5045]

Well then it's a good thing I bought yours right after you made it available, what 2 years ago, and I did compare to others at the time and figured out yours was the most robust, and for it's intended use that's what you need....Javi G.

[@Traxxion]

You made a good guess!

[@teddworak4193]

Great demonstration. 👍👍🇺🇾will order your belly pan for mine 2020 Goldwing DCT tour. Thank you

[@Traxxion]

Engine Case Guard... there's a difference! 😅 Looking forward to your order!

[@GeneVerSteeg]

Love ours ! Thanks Max ,your number 1

[@Traxxion]

Thank you!

[@GoldRyderOne]

Well, I bought yours and I'm very happy with my decision. No, you did not favor yours during the test. Great job.

[@Traxxion]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@tapartacus]

Max this was all academic. We all knew from the get go there was no comparison. Just watching you handle the competitors products in your other videos, how they flexed and how they mounted up it was a for gone conclusion. You make high quality products with precision and care. Thanks for the fun shoot out though, thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@Traxxion]

It was a lot of time, money, and effort, but I think it was worth it!

[@macgeek2112]

I like the idea of testing these despite it being rather obvious to anyone with eyes which of these products will protect. A more accurate (and expensive) test scenario would be glancing blows at various angles. No matter to me really, I'll buy Max's plate if/when the time comes for me to own a GW.

[@Traxxion]

This is true, but I didn't have any way to generate the real amounts of force the plates would take when coupled with heaping amounts of inertia. So a perpendicular blow with as much as I could generate was as good as I could do for "free".

[@goldwingrocks3859]

Noone else should attempt to make one other than Max

[@Traxxion]

OK, they could try, but yeah, such a waste of time.... 😂 😆 😂 😆

[@kwakaj14]

Wow glad I purchased your one.

[@Traxxion]

Good choice!

[@johnanderson9735]

I was waiting for your engine case guard to be available and I ordered right away. I saw the Wingstuff plate, 1st version, and never wanted to bend brackets around the exhausts. I think it had a cutout for the oil filter as well, that didn’t make sense. I’m glad I got the Traxxion plate.

[@glenns6923]

Very entertaining, and true, thanks guys.

[@Traxxion]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@tomvoncharon6359]

That was fun. The real question...should I just buy one before I even own the bike? Ha! Seriously, I'm sure it comes complete, but what would we need to install it in the parking lot of the shop?

[@Traxxion]

I think a 5mm allen key, to take the covers off, a 12mm wrench to take the 4 bolts out of the engine, a 6mm allen to put the brackets on, and a 4mm allen key to put the plate onto the brackets. I almost do the whole thing in this video. Check out the "Install Engine Guard" video, it shows you what to do. Takes about 15-20 minutes.

[@tomvoncharon6359]

Thank you for your efforts and your quick response.

[@jimtengland]

Love the videos and the work you do. Keep it up. You should get that cough checked out though as you've had it through a bunch of videos.

[@Traxxion]

20 years, no doctor can solve it

[@cruisemansgarage]

Next Traxxion product. Stool guard.

[@Traxxion]

Haha, new stools are cheaper than guards!

[@Traxxion]

Your new gizmo is at the anodizer!

[@edmacedo2694]

@@Traxxion Ohhhhh.. Intriguing.....

[@mikegunsallus7387]

Wish you would make one for the previous version of Goldwing but I understand why you wouldn’t

[@Traxxion]

It would be a stretch, there already 50 Shine-eez copies

[@JimTiernay]

What was the condition of the engine were the bolts secured the brackets

[@Traxxion]

Fine. I have only seen the bolts damaged one time, a guy ran over a concrete curb. No damage to the engine.

[@jeannehaussler8048]

But I am concerned about his bolding your skid plate to the engine itself that could possibly crack the engine. Why does it have to be mounted to the engine? Would love to hear your response please Chuck.

[@Traxxion]

Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imXHmJWVdrCAqsU

[@dnkarran]

Hi Max. It might be worth contacting HGB Motorcycles, 69-79 Park Way, Ruislip Manor, Middlesex HA4 8NS, they sell Showchrome products etc for Goldwings. Used them & very pleased with them.

[@Traxxion]

I am thinking about this, and it probably makes more sense to just offer a freight discount to UK Customers. You can contact me [e-mail] to discuss.

[@randyolson415]

On a coastline road in California with wife and i,and pulling my trailer with my 1800,hit a pothole and bottomed out on a smooth rock,bike bounsed hard,i checked it right away,had your guard on,nothing happened,the only thing i had to change was my attitude and my underwear 😅 thanks

[@Traxxion]

It's like a helmet, you hope you never need it!

[@Sladep123]

Nice work. I would think the loads transmitted from curb shots and speed bumps would be massive b/c the bike and rider weighs a combined 950-1,000 lbs. maybe up to 1,300 lbs. with pillion and gear, x the speed of impact, concentrated into a very small impact area. Having said that, I would think you would be fair to have a test that represents that huge impact, much larger than anything you've shown here. If you could calculate that and then represent that in a test, I think that would really show the capability and superiority of your product, and the inadequacy of all the others. In any case, your product is awesome and delivers the goods, as your whacking and bashing clearly shows. You gave your own product way more force than the competitors'.

[@Traxxion]

... because this test failed to do that already??? The main difference is that a speed bump would not have the concentrated hit the boulder did, as it would create a line across which the plate would slide, versus a point being driven into the plate perpendicularly. This is the best test anyone will ever do on this topic, so everyone will have to live with its limitations.

[@Sladep123]

@Traxxion I'm not a testing expert for sure. I think your tests were representative of the majority of the bad situations out there. As a GL1800 owner, my worst-case scenario (the Mac Daddy) is when we crunch a speed bump or curb. I could easily see your plate withstanding the equivalent of dropping the bike with riders and gear onto a sharp curb edge and I don't see any of the competitors being able to do that. I just thought would be a really convincing demonstration to those who haven't yet experienced the sickening feeling of when that happens - "oh shit, that sounded expensive"...

[@Traxxion]

@@Sladep123 dropping onto the curb edge, I think most riders are going quite slow, and they've already determined that the curb "shouldn't" hit the bottom of the bike. I slammed a 35 pound rock down onto the case with all the force I could muster from 7 feet in the air. Maybe if you watch that again and turn your speakers up, you'll get that sickening feeling! HAHA!

[@Sladep123]

@@Traxxion haha sickening indeed!

[@Dundertaker1]

The orders of magnitude that the bike loaded with a rider and luggage can generate is huge. The test shows that the other pans are not capable of providing anything but minimal protections at best...and in the case of the FINS versions....could shear, split, and rip off under the rear wheel. The protection they provide comes with an added danger even I didn't foresee until this test. Protecting the case and not having the thing fall off should be the main goal....all of them failed on one or both but the Traxxion. The type of hit that could damage the entire engine with the Traxxion guard attached to it would be orders of magnitude harder and higher than without the protection plate. Its primary purpose is to protect that shift boss from breaking off or the oil filter from taking a rock. Everything else it does is a bonus. It also doesn't present the downside of being a total waste of money, not working to stop almost anything other than the lightest road debris, rattling, and being a potential hazard if it's "can openers" under the chassis and into the rear wheel/fender.

[@edmacedo2694]

I think you treated the Traxxion Dynamics plate unfairly! LOL I own a 2002 GL 1800 and noticed you don't sell a belly pan for that generation.. Is there anything on the bottom of that engine that needs this level of protection? My belly pan is pretty flimsy compared to yours...

[@Traxxion]

That one, the flimsy ones were needed to protect the coolant reservoir bottle from wearing a hole in it over time.

[@edmacedo2694]

@@Traxxion Thanks for your reply Max. This, right here, is why I support local and small businesses.. Service. Thanks for all you do.

[@ianb282]

Asking sincerely….How about heat build up if it gets caked up. I had some jeep under body protection parts that got caked up and up seized the transmission…they had to cut it open to even see what happened in there..would this act like a heat thermal protection or would it cause the oil\fluids to even get hotter…asking Mr. Science :)

[@Traxxion]

The plate basically touches the engine, so there is no place for anything to "cake up". If you are riding your Wing on a Motocross Track, I would suggest removing the bodywork and pressure washing regularly. Having said that, we've had tons of riders do the Alcan Highway and reported no troubles whatsoever. These plates are in use all over Earth in all sorts of environments. If there was a problem, we'd know. I suspect it's actually more of a large cooling fin. But no, no one has reported their engine runs too cold either...

[@ianb282]

@@Traxxion cool, i appreciate the 411…plan on buying some of your products later…when i was in WA state, i had access years ago to a small airplane ;) surplus store metal, and did tons of c&c work..sigh..gone are those days of cheap materials…cant wait to purchase the quality i hear about from you folks..take care

[@Traxxion]

@@ianb282 metal went into outerspace during the shamdemic, and the price has never come down.

[@dnkarran]

Wish the transportation to the UK was more reasonable. Thats the only thing stopping me buying one at the moment

[@Traxxion]

I need to compile a list of riders in the UK so you can all combine shipping to save money. It makes me sad I can't get things around the world for a bearable price.

[@nbitzis]

I expected nothing less from the imitation plates... but seeing the results of the destructive testing makes me cringe for those that took that path. I have always known I made the right choice when I drove over to pick up my Traxxion solution, but now I am even happier with your offering and the choice I made.

[@Traxxion]

Thanks Nick!

[@moose3971]

I know I’ve been happy with your product works great. Can’t be for sure that that crack was from yours, may have cracked when hitting one of the others. The dry erase board may be savable, depending on how long the permanent marker has been on it. Dry erase marker will many times remove permanent marker, I use that trick at work on our white boards, usually works.

[@Traxxion]

You are "double right"... I got after the whiteboard with some contact cleaner right away, and it cleaned up perfectly. As for that crack, I did smash it with the big rock with one of the Shine-eez plates on there, and then hit it 3 times with my plate, and then I pounded all over the whole plate with the trailer ball. The rock hit my plate with a point, which a speed bump wouldn't have. It would be a "line" that would glance across the plate. I was just trying to find something extreme. I think that happened!

[@ArtD2368]

Exlant testing great job

[@Traxxion]

Thank you!

[@F6B_ADVENTURES]

Do you have a discount code/coupon code?

[@Traxxion]

No, sorry!

[@wingingit9493]

My standard Traxxion plate is installed and I like it being there. I would have bought the Alcan but it was out of stock.

[@robertwhitemoto]

I knew I made the right decision long before this video. Traxxion pan... all day.

[@rogerbivins9144]

After hearing the horror stories of broken GW engines I refused to get caught riding after dark and spent too much time preoccupied with every bolt or nut that might be lying on the road instead of enjoying the ride. The peace of mind I now have from Max's simple install engine gaurd laid all of those concerns to rest an hour after it was delivered. I've learned enough about Traxxion that I didn't feel a need to shop competitors products but some of these other engine gaurds being tested here are actually laughable. How anyone could, in good conscience, sell or install such flimsy pieces of shit for the purpose of shielding a $30,000 bikes engine against all manor of possible road objects is beyond my understanding. Just the lengths this guy goes to in order to educate and clarify our understanding of our own equipment deserves some respect, whether you agree with him or no, he's the only manufacturer I see constantly cranking out research / development to provide much needed upgrades & improvement options. Cheers.

[@Traxxion]

Thank you, Sir!

[@macgeek2112]

Interest note on the 'Chi Fun'. The word pronounced as"fun" in Chinese (and Vietnamese) literally means $#it.

[@Traxxion]

HAHAHA!!!! I didn't know that... I wonder if they are making fun of Americans who don't know that and buy it anyway?

[@macgeek2112]

@@Traxxion highly probable IMO.

[@terrasiho5606]

Max I am a doc and please have that cough looked into. We want you around for a long time.

[@Traxxion]

I've been trying to get it solved for almost 20 years. The good news is, I have no physical damage anyone can find. This particular day, the pollen count was over 3000 in GA, and I have allergies. Most of it is from reflux. I personally accidentally figured out I was allergic to the PPIs I've been on for 10 years... I stopped them, and it's been a lot better. But not cured.

[@terrasiho5606]

@@Traxxion Good to hear that. Take care.

[@marcheyes4]

Bravo ! 😀

[@Traxxion]

Thank you!

[@mikeengel8355]

I liked the test, but couldnt help thinking how each one would do with a pew pew? You can blame your target setup in the background for my thought process,

[@Traxxion]

Those are for axes, not the pew pew!!!

[@pidjones]

Not Project Farm, but pretty even-handed.

[@Traxxion]

With only 17,000 subscribers, I can't invest the kind of money that guy with 3.14M subscribers does... I can't imagine what he makes each year off of his videos!

[@ericpurdy5704]

The thing about this test is that it spills over into everything else you do. Youre not going to make a plate like this, and at the same time make a crappy shock...all this stuff works together.

[@Traxxion]

The only thing I have to listen to people complain about is the price. Never a word about "it broke", "it doesn't work", "waste of money"... you won't hear those words about our products.

[@edmacedo2694]

Rubbing alcohol will remove sharpie ink off a white board...

[@freddie_ray1498]

Been following Max for a few years even though I ride a Harley ( I like all motorcycles). I believe that Max makes a superior product. Hell even Stevie Wonder can see that...

[@Traxxion]

Haha!!! We got great Harley suspension products too Freddie!

[@Dundertaker1]

And…here…we….go!

[@Traxxion]

Oh, it's ON NOW!!!!

[@kc5hgv]

I like your comments Max.

[@vincents3334]

Looks like the Wingstuff worked just fine since there was no damage to the engine. All that banging and the engine was unharmed. Good test. Thank you.

[@Traxxion]

The Wingstuff plate destroyed the engine with the smallest effort and failed miserably. Did you bother to watch the video, or do you just want to place an ad for Wingstuff?

[@vincents3334]

I didn't see any engine damage. If there was I missed it. Could you please point me to the place in the video where you showed that?

[@edmacedo2694]

@@vincents3334 The whole side collapsed that would have broken that shift boss off the block.

[@Traxxion]

@@edmacedo2694 correct.

[@scottgarrabrant5318]

The Wingstuff Guard was inferior. You apparently didn’t watch the video!

[@billyray3761]

I think the test would have been more severe, if a picture of Joe, Kamala, AOC, and Nancy would have been placed on top of each plate. I got my oil changed in Nashville and they were very impressed with my bash plate from Traxxion.

[@Traxxion]

Yes, but the fact checkers would erase me from history like they did the last election...

[@JimTiernay]

Seek medical attention for your throat and breathing

[@Traxxion]

No doctor has the answer.

[@JimTiernay]

Hope it nothing serious Thankyou for your two answers and merry Christmas. I enjoy your utube channel

[@randykonop7989]

I don’t think this is a true test. The motorcycle was only a few inches off the ground anything flying off the front tire or getting kicked up under will not hit with that much force.

[@randykonop7989]

Whatever is kicked up, it will a glancing blow

[@javig5045]

well then him over slamming with hammer goes to prove the point even better, don't you think? WTF

[@randykonop7989]

@@javig5045 i’m not saying which ones is the best I’m just saying it’s not a good test WTF

[@Dundertaker1]

So without the pan(s) a "glancing blow" destroys the motor...and I hate to get all "sciencey"...a direct hit has more force...and the rocks were the definitions of "glancing blows". Objectively this shows a worse case scenario, aka the point of a "protection plate". 😘😚😘😚😘

[@randykonop7989]

@@Dundertaker1 a glancing blow will probably hurt the motor without any protection

[@redwing2001]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@SecurityBob]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

Boom! Thanks for the support!

[@billyray3761]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

You bet! Thanks for the support!

[@moose3971]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

You bet!

[@coachingandteaching9331]

Thanks!

[@Traxxion]

Awesome man! Thank you!